Even though this isn’t a ski I would go for myself, l always enjoy learning about the different and new twigs out there. Already looking forward to next season, thanks, Jeff and Bob!
I like the return to the blunt-nosed, fat tail, stiff-as-heck formula that made the Experience series circa 2013-16 so fun to ski for a strong skier. My 2015 E100's are ready for retirement and now that i'm back on the east coast I think the 88 or 84 might be a sick frontside ripper/beer league race ski
Can’t wait for all manufacturers to start releasing their new models and seeing the next great thing on the slopes you guys rock with your opinions keep up the amazing content
I'm not one for all mountain skis generally, but the 88 seems interesting as an off piste/soft snow resort ski for Europe. I'd love the sender but we just don't have the conditions for it on this side of the pond often enough.
Great as always! Have you guys been on 2025 Kastles yet? You mentioned the Mx comparison but I believe it’s getting updated for 2025. Also curious how the new paragon 93 is, looks sick
Yes we've spent some time on the new Kastle skis and love them. The new MX's use a new Hollowtech Evo, which is basically an extended Hollowtech--less material in the tips. Feels like instant engagement as always, just a bit lighter. Still get a full wood core with two sheets of metal. New core has an elastomer layer as well, keeping vibrations to a minimum. While we enjoyed all of the new Paragons, the 107 stood out to us as an incredibly rewarding high-performance ski at this width.
We're always amazed that given two different skis at 88 mm underfoot, just how vastly different they can be, and it's all about what the skier wants the thing to do--Arcade certainly has a different feel when it comes to stable and powerful carves while the Elan, as you well know, has uncanny grip and energy for being so light and mobile.
I have tried the experience and really liked it. I would not hesitate to buy it. Watching this review of the Arcade and seeing how stiff it is and the level of technique required, I'm not sure I would like it. Do you think this is a good commercial move by Rossignol, replacing a ski that was very accessible by a more exclusive ski?
I think they're trying to separate Arcade and Sender Soul with this move, and it makes sense--there's more of a gap here. They used to have the Experience in wider shapes too, 94, 98, and even 100 back in the day. Those didn't do so well, so moving their wider widths to a more accessible build as in Sender Soul 92, I think makes sense. Keeping Arcade as the wider and more versatile step from Forza 70 provides a nice middle ground. But I totally see your point--the Experience 88 used to be the ski that everyone could use everywhere, and Arcade now is certainly stiffer and more demanding for the mid-range of skier.
Hi, I recently watched the video and my english is not very good so I couldn’t understand very well the video. The question that I have is what ski would you recommend me between arcade 88 and arcade 84 if I’m looking for something for both off piste and on piste.
The 88 is wider, stronger, and more stable than the 84 as it has full metal. The 84 only has metal underfoot so it's not as damp. I do think the 88 is a better option for both on and off-piste skiing.
What difference did you find compared to a Mirus core? I am very undecided between the 2 types of skis to use on groomed slopes in soft or wet snow conditions at the end of the season.
I think the Arcade is more useful in a broader sense. The Mirus Cor can be utilized in an all-mountain format, but it skis so centrally that it's hard to compare overall use. Arcade is traditional and directional while Mirus Cor is modern and unique. If you're looking for one ski for groomers and variable snow conditions, I think the Arcade will satisfy most skiers. The Mirus Cor is a great ski, but it's hard to recommend to most as a one and only ski.
Depart is sweet. It's wide, surfy, and carvy with a turned up tail and a very pointy tip. While it's billed as an athlete-focused urban park ski, it sure seems a lot like a modernized QST 106 to me.
Even though this isn’t a ski I would go for myself, l always enjoy learning about the different and new twigs out there. Already looking forward to next season, thanks, Jeff and Bob!
I like the return to the blunt-nosed, fat tail, stiff-as-heck formula that made the Experience series circa 2013-16 so fun to ski for a strong skier.
My 2015 E100's are ready for retirement and now that i'm back on the east coast I think the 88 or 84 might be a sick frontside ripper/beer league race ski
Can’t wait for all manufacturers to start releasing their new models and seeing the next great thing on the slopes you guys rock with your opinions keep up the amazing content
I'm not one for all mountain skis generally, but the 88 seems interesting as an off piste/soft snow resort ski for Europe. I'd love the sender but we just don't have the conditions for it on this side of the pond often enough.
My 1990s Rossi 4S Equipe race skis had VAS...
This ain’t a ski for me but I really enjoy listening to you guys.
Great as always! Have you guys been on 2025 Kastles yet? You mentioned the Mx comparison but I believe it’s getting updated for 2025. Also curious how the new paragon 93 is, looks sick
Yes we've spent some time on the new Kastle skis and love them. The new MX's use a new Hollowtech Evo, which is basically an extended Hollowtech--less material in the tips. Feels like instant engagement as always, just a bit lighter. Still get a full wood core with two sheets of metal. New core has an elastomer layer as well, keeping vibrations to a minimum. While we enjoyed all of the new Paragons, the 107 stood out to us as an incredibly rewarding high-performance ski at this width.
Had Experience skis in the past but ski Elan Ripsticks now, would never go back to the Rossi, the Ripsticks are a far superior ski
We're always amazed that given two different skis at 88 mm underfoot, just how vastly different they can be, and it's all about what the skier wants the thing to do--Arcade certainly has a different feel when it comes to stable and powerful carves while the Elan, as you well know, has uncanny grip and energy for being so light and mobile.
haha I did the same thing and I am not looking back...I skied Rossi for over 30 years but a change was needed..
I have tried the experience and really liked it. I would not hesitate to buy it. Watching this review of the Arcade and seeing how stiff it is and the level of technique required, I'm not sure I would like it. Do you think this is a good commercial move by Rossignol, replacing a ski that was very accessible by a more exclusive ski?
I think they're trying to separate Arcade and Sender Soul with this move, and it makes sense--there's more of a gap here. They used to have the Experience in wider shapes too, 94, 98, and even 100 back in the day. Those didn't do so well, so moving their wider widths to a more accessible build as in Sender Soul 92, I think makes sense. Keeping Arcade as the wider and more versatile step from Forza 70 provides a nice middle ground. But I totally see your point--the Experience 88 used to be the ski that everyone could use everywhere, and Arcade now is certainly stiffer and more demanding for the mid-range of skier.
Hi, I recently watched the video and my english is not very good so I couldn’t understand very well the video.
The question that I have is what ski would you recommend me between arcade 88 and arcade 84 if I’m looking for something for both off piste and on piste.
The 88 is wider, stronger, and more stable than the 84 as it has full metal. The 84 only has metal underfoot so it's not as damp. I do think the 88 is a better option for both on and off-piste skiing.
What difference did you find compared to a Mirus core?
I am very undecided between the 2 types of skis to use on groomed slopes in soft or wet snow conditions at the end of the season.
I think the Arcade is more useful in a broader sense. The Mirus Cor can be utilized in an all-mountain format, but it skis so centrally that it's hard to compare overall use. Arcade is traditional and directional while Mirus Cor is modern and unique. If you're looking for one ski for groomers and variable snow conditions, I think the Arcade will satisfy most skiers. The Mirus Cor is a great ski, but it's hard to recommend to most as a one and only ski.
Have yall got a chance to check out the Salomon depart 1.0?
Depart is sweet. It's wide, surfy, and carvy with a turned up tail and a very pointy tip. While it's billed as an athlete-focused urban park ski, it sure seems a lot like a modernized QST 106 to me.