Fields simply ran out of time with the Bears. He was due for an extension and the Bears weren't going to pay it. They had no reason to either because he was developing slowly and wasn't a force multiplier on offense. People like to talk about how Poles "did him dirty" but really it was Pace and Nagy who kneecapped him from the start - from drafting him in a lame-duck season to throwing him to the wolves against a hungry Browns defense with no O-Line and a bad gameplan in his first NFL start. He showed flashes, but was never consistent as a playmaker.
As a Lions fan glad to not have to play against him in our division. Beat us once convincingly and should have won both except for last minute heroics. The Bears and Ravens were the only two teams we had trouble with. Expecting to do better against Bears this year. Caleb will be easier to defend.
I think the Colts are a sleeper for top 5 offense. Richardson, Woods, returning from injury and Taylor with a full off-season with team. Adding Adonai Mitchell who was expected first rounder in the second along with Gould in the 5th. Adding that with Pittman jr,Downs, pierce,and the Colts could make a huge jump in the offensive rankings this year.
Man as a Missouri chargers fan I watched u play with the chiefs in two years back to back starting and beating the chargers both times at arrowhead I was super glad u got u when we did u were amazing at mizzou love the show!!
Goodell doesn't get the snot knocked out of him every weekend. Hard enough keeping teams healthy for 16-17 weeks. Player's & team's need pre-season game's to evaluate Player's. These guy's are trying to make a team, not only the ones they're on now, but other team's as well...
Justin Fields didnt get the ball out on time, was off target way to much, and was a one read qb. Thats not a starting caliber qb and the rest of the league agreed when none of them traded for him.
@thomaslook2252 Um no he started over 35 games and the offensive line wasn't horrible . They were ranked 19th out of 32. Your narrative is to blame the O line you're wrong sorry. It was way more him than them he made them look bad holding the ball for 5 seconds You'll see as soon as he gets a start the same things will pop up. You tried to get tough with him though but you lost TKO😂
@@thomaslook2252 nothing was out of the ordinary with the OL. Fields had the 2nd most time in the pocket of all NFL QB's. 80% of the sacks he took were from him standing in the pocket for 4+ seconds because he can go thru progressions after snap. OL had nothing to do with that
Chase, I was captivated by this conversation. Watched it from start to finish. Some really awesome insight from both of you. Definitely earned my subscription.
Wingo spoke facts about Fields if he was in that situation for the Bears yes he would be successful easily, but I'm happy he's with Pittsburgh now because they're a better overall organization.
Fields struggles to read defenses. He doesn’t really throw with anticipation. He frequently misses open receivers downfield and will more often than not choose the check down. He holds the ball too long that results in more sacks. He fumbles too much. Many of these issues were there at Ohio State. More talent around him will not make him a top 12 or 15 QB. His rookie year Fields had Allen Robinson, David Montgomery, Cole Kmet who had 60 receptions and Darnell Mooney who had 81 receptions and 1055 yards. Year 2 Fields had David Montgomery, Khalil Herbert and his NFL leading 5.7 YPC, Kmet, Mooney and eventually Chase Claypool who was off to a solid career. Year 3 he had DJ Moore, Mooney, Claypool, Kmet, Herbert and Foreman. Plus a much improved OL and a top 5 defense the last half of the season. It’s not like Fields was treated like Bryce Young.
@@paulieprinceton4550 Bryce Young situation is exactly how Fields situation was. I don't believe in false narratives like the "he can't read a defense" thing because that's a lie. All those players u named on that team Fields had ain't as good as what Caleb has, which is good for him because I believe he will do good in the nfl, and with that roster he should. Mooney ain't Kenan Allen and Allen Robinson ain't DJ Moore but I'm not here to go back and forth with none of u fans because I have my opinion on the situation and u have yours and that's ok. I respectfully disagree.
@@CornealiusG24 "I don't believe tape because it doesn't fit my narrative". It's the same thing that's on his predraft scouting report. Whether or not you want to believe reality is irrelevant. Fields is bad. The NFL agrees. Going into a better situation wasn't going to make him significantly better at the stuff he still sucks at 3 years in.
@@TheMattTrakker Lol get yo weird ass off the internet 🤣 I don't care about none of that so keep it to yourself because that's what's "irrelevant". Again I don't believe in false narratives.
@@TheMattTrakker Lol get yo weird @$$ off the internet 🤣 I don't care about none of that so keep it to yourself because that's "irrelevant". Again I don't believe in false narratives.
18 Regular Season Games?!? That would be great for the fans, but not so much for the Players. 2 bye weeks is a must. And then probably a Week in between the end of Regular Season and the Playoffs... for ALL of the Teams makings the playoffs.
Chase! Can we please have a segment about the Chiefs camp coming up? Hollywood Brown, Rugby player, Worthy, TE from TCU, Free Agent TE, possibilities of 3 TE sets from Reid finally, fire hydrant RB, possibility of Brown, Worthy, Toney, Rice, Kelce, Pacheco….such an interesting group of players.
@@ChaseDanielShow I hope they can get Toney reeled in from his late season antics. When Antonio Brown is goofing on you, you know you have to take a long look at yourself.
@@ArcanumAscent Everyone says when a qb isn’t doing well it’s time for him to go. ie Justin Fields. However I believe that applies at the other end of the spectrum. Cousins won a lot of games for the Vikings but not the big one. So did Dak for Dallas. They cannot get them over the hump so better to move them on whilst they can still win a lot of games and perhaps the big one with someone else and try again with someone else.
🤔He wouldn't have worked in the Bill's scheme, but DeSean Jackson did a pretty good job with the Eagles 🤔 What was the name of his HC?...OH YEAH! Andy Reid!...and DeSean didn't have that other guy...what's his name🤔....you know!....oh yeah! Patrick Mahomes!....so, he (Worthy) just might break the trend😉 btw....although Xavier played a season with a broken hand, he never missed games while playing in college😮
@@bigbox1431 Drew Pearson, Webster Slaughter, DeSean Jackson, Hollywood Brown, but Xavier doesn't have to have a Long Career, just play out his rookie contract. Maybe he will gain 10 pounds & only run a 4.22🤷🏻♂️...he just turned 21 on 4/27. Do you think Andy isn't aware of His size? Do ya think he might figure that into the plays he designs for XW? How many Super Bowls have the Bill's won with "big" receivers? 🤔 Keon Coleman will be playing a Lot more reps than XW. There are no guarantees for anybody. XW is not a John Ross...he can actually run routes & catch. He was productive in college, including his 1st year. He not only ran the fastest 40 in the history of the combine,(4.21 v Tyreek 4.29 but also blew away folks like Tyreek & DeSean in 10 & 20 yd splits & has a 41" vertical ....he may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but if anyone can utilize his skinny butt, it is Andy Reid. He only has to catch 2 or 3 balls a game & I imagine him being about 5 yards from the defender when he does 😉
@@bigbox1431 ever heard of Drew Pearson? ....I didn't think so. Xavier doesn't have to have a Long Career, just be productive on his rookie contract. Maybe he will gain weight & only run a 4.22....there are no guarantees...but, I am sure Andy & Veach considered all of these things before they drafted him & know how they plan to use him 😉
Chase if you're in Herbert's position would you prefer having a top of the line weapon like Nabers or are you more excited to see Pipkins replaced by Alt?
Obviously, I'm not Chase Daniel, lol!] That said , I can guarantee Chase Daniel knows that Herbert wants to be protected , he's had fractured rib cartilage, which is extremely painful! He's also broken fingers on each hand! Pipkins is terrible, and I guess you missed where Chase spoke on the Chargers draft and how it affects Herbert, whom he played on the Chargers with!
Not sure why everyone is crushing the Bills for trading with KC. KC got Xavier Worthy, but Bills got Keon Coleman, who may end up being the better receiver. AND, through multiple trade downs, they also parlayed that pick into DeWayne Carter and Sedrick Van Pran, who both may be day one starters. The Bills got more out of that trade and it isn’t even close.
Personally i love the pre-season. It gives me a chance to see all these guys ive been following through camp and OTAs and finally see how they perform under the lights. It gets you excited for the future of your team. Maybe the NFL just needs to do a better job of marketing them. Instead of publicly downplaying them like they are trash.
exactly. Austin Ekeler probably would not have made the roster except for pre-season / special teams. So, for UDFA and 3rd string players would probably not have a shot at making the roster without pre-season. Also, without pre-season, the first few games will be sloppy because rookies won't have any game reps till the 1st regular season game. how many games will be lost due to ONE rookie mistake due to no pre-season reps.
I like chase Daniel. Hes a good qb. Only if he can be a damn starter!... I remember starting tyrek hill in fantasy when they played vs Denver, hill got me like 25 points still. Cd is solid... he needs to prove he can start man
@@ChaseDanielShow - I watched him play for 3 years waiting for him to do something. He never did. I really don’t care what he does in Pittsburgh, I’m a Bears fan.
@@sloebone7399 you clearly didnt pay attention. but youre right that was typical of chicago media and their followers. the players were united with Justin.
This year's draft was nice, however however some of these guys are 5th and 6th year recruits due to NIL, transfer portal and pandemic. I think a lot of teams who needed it went heavy this draft but next year's draft is gonna be different and those who went ham this year are gonna regret it next year
We lost a good amount of games because of his 2 minute drives in 4th quarter either fumble interception or couldn’t convert almost every single time we where down but could win if we scored in season 2 it was like half the season
If evaluating players is the goal…. Why not do multi team scrimmages even multi team mini camps… and eliminate preseason all together? They can still run live games in scrimmages… it’s much more controlled and guys can get a ton more reps against professionals. There’s always this thing about getting enough reps for backups. There’s always this rigid system everyone has to follow. Why can’t teams decide how they want to spend their preseason? Why can’t a coach decide what’s best to develop his players?
The owners are pushing the league toward the casual fan market. Real fans appreciate what the pre-season brings. It’s always a blast seeing those overlooked guys pushing for a roster spot and even better when they get it. The problem is that requires investment that the casual market doesn’t have, and the easy money is in expanding the regular season games.
I know Daniel doesn't want to pick the Chargers because of a homer label but Chargers will fly under the radar and Harbaugh has proof he can turn around a team within his 1st year. Bolt up ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Is part of the issue for the NFL that there is so much downtime each year? Wouldn't a better option be to spread the existing schedule out longer, so that more games could be televised and player recovery and welfare could be optimised? Playing every week seems nonsensical over a full season with just one bye, now that international games are taking hold and the demands on both the NFL and players, is as high as it's ever been.
Chargers are embracing the rebuild. building the team the right way. There will be another 5 flashy wide receivers next year in the draft. Protect the quarterback!
I think some important decision have been made before the preseson. I remember when Chase Daniel played pre season early in his career. He outplayed the other quarterback candidates but was not selected to be team quarterback. Chase Daniel was still in the NFL when the other quarterbacks were gone. Some teams "suck" and this is not caused by the people on the field. When a team has top draft picks for a decade or more, the problem can't be solved on the field. For years I loved football. Then the new rules that diminshes the ability of the defense, inconsistent /incompetent officiating, etc. motivated me to stop watching games. And, I was NOT enthused by having games in other countries. How about a game in St. Louis, San Diego, Oakland. The NFL leadership is so damn greedy they will end up "cutting their own wrists".
Fields still holds the ball to long and don’t see wide open receivers that are right in front of his face and now is a backup qb! It also don’t matter how many shiny pieces they have on offense when they’ve failed the last 4 years to fix their O line. If they can’t protect the qb long enough for routs to open, they’ll be useless…
4 preseason games weren't enough much less three now. That's why the first two games every year really kind of suck. Penalties every 3rd play, guys getting hurt because their bodies aren't conditioned enough for the pounding of 60 min games. Getting rid of preseason is killing the quality of the regular season and making the first quarter of game really unwatchable. I'm getting to the point already of just watching highlights for the first four weeks to figure out what teams would be fun to watch a whole game.
It would not surprise me if Bears offense is top 5 later in the season. Caleb, DJ, Keenan, Odunze, Kmet, Everett, Swift plus the new offensive coaching staff are a formula for success. For fun, add the field position game into the mix with the Bears drafting the Crocodile Punter. Keep your eyes on the NFC North this season.
The piper will always have to be paid. Expanding the season to 18 games and cutting pre-season games to 2 games, is a MUCH harder season on player health and harder to develop/evaluate talent. Id say that for this to work, active rosters would have to expand to 63 and practice squads to 20. The cap would have to be raised significantly for expanded rosters and the added wear and tear on player health due to expanded seasons. That might ameliorate some of the issues because expanded seasons mean more money for the owners and theyd be doing it on the backs of the players. More games, more money. The players should share in some of that.
Regardless of the weapons, JF1 held the ball far too long, was slow in processing, and lacked consistency with his passing accuracy. The Bears expect Caleb to be better, but we don't know yet what he will do. We'll see....
You guys want to here a bad situation, Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh hoping to compete for the starting job or sit under Wilson for a year before being there QB, that’s what they told Fields, that was never there plan, they want him to be a punt returner, that’s FKD up, lieing to him pisses me off🤬🤬🤬
Caleb has plenty of top calibre weapons. That alone makes his situation unique. His relationship with Waldron will be the deciding factor in the Bears making the playoffs. I absolutely loved the Dallas Turner and Terrion Arnold picks for MIN and DET.
No doubt that Dallas Turner was a solid pick for Minnesota. But to get to #17, they traded a 2nd rounder and 2 lower pick this year PLUS a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th next year!! 6 picks total! Jerrah talks about "all in!" Minnesota just went all in! If minny's 2-1st round picks don't work out, Kwesi/gm could be looking for work. He only has a 1st and 2-5ths left next year.
@@jamesbickle4912Yes, that and $60,000,000 of freed up cap (AFTER paying Jefferson) to play with in free agency next season. Having that much capital means that they can sign a seasoned vet(s) to fill the gap that needs addressing most, then trade down, or maybe even trade out of the first round in order to recoup or improve the picks they traded to move down this year, so in reality, they didn't really pay anything at all in order to move down and get the guys they wanted. Kwesi isn't at risk of losing his job. He absolutely nailed the draft this year.
"We're gonna have some surprises here" (proceeds to name the absolute chalk, front-running choices for best offenses). Now, I'm not saying the list is wrong, just that wasn't "spicy" or "hot take" or "surprising" in the least. Again, I think the picks make sense, just not in any way, shape or form surprising.
Poles never surrounded Fields with talent only thing he did was in his last year gave him dj Moore who got 1,300 yards and Darnell Wright, no other receiver's or offensive line help. But now with caleb you roll out the red carpet for him with a slew of talent even though left tackle and center still needs to be addressed somewhat but overall Poles was biased since Fields wasn't his draft pick . Poles did a disservice to him.
Idk Justin Fields is a good dude but he needs a lot of development. I personally think his feel in the pocket is still bad and he needs to learn how to layer the ball ...i think he lacks natural instincts for a QB. It was evident when Tyson Bagent stepped in. Im sorry but if you are good it will show beyond who is on the squad.
If the preseason isn't for the starters but the backups then why have the starters play in them at all and if you aren't playing starters then why can't they lower the ticket prices and concession stand prices?
@@ChaseDanielShow thanks chase for clarity. JF will be great in Pittsburgh. I'm still upset with the way they did him in Chicago but business is business.
@@joshuat7171 you had a shit organisation living in one year back in 1985 and keep living on it, you GM's put a shit team together then tour it down to make it more shitty and think JF was going to win with shit but we all know shit is what you flush down the toilet not on a football field and the Bears orgazation is just that a shit organisation that almost destroyed a QB but who God bless no man curse. So, now you've stocked your team with players and a shiny new QB who all of you think is going to bring you multiple super bowls like KC we will see everything unfold because God don't like ugly and that's what you'll did to JF, ugly. I'm out drah enjoy your new shiny team and your new shiny QB. ✌️
The Vikings were one of the lead stories going into the draft, would they trade up for Maye or stand pat? The question has been answered. I truly don’t think the Pats would have traded back for anything remotely attractive to the Vikings. The Patriots wanted Maye and judging by how fast they turned in the card they didn’t want to be talked out of it.
@@elizabeth9674 Too bad the Pats are not set up to work on his mechanics for a year without the threat of playing him. They’re gonna start that poor kid and he’s never gonna reach his potential. What a shame!
@@joshuat7171 you’re sort of writing him off early there. What if Mayo and Wolf know what they’re doing? I liked their draft, I’ve loved the guys we chose to resign… You’re right in that they do need to have patience and they’ll face pressure to play him but I think the fan base will be a lot more patient after what we did to Mac Jones. I’m perfectly happy with another 4-13 year with him on the bench as long as there is growth and improvement with the team. I want to give the coaches time to implement their new offense. The O line needs to be tested to find the right grouping (another draft would help) etc. etc. Play calling needs to gel, etc, etc. But if we are patient, next draft our high pick will go to the O line and shoring up pieces. Fingers crossed. Just don’t write him (or us) off yet.
Patrick Mahomes will never pass tom brady.. you cant pass someone that you lost twice to. Once in the superbowl and once on the way to the superbowl in which brady ended up winning.
By that logic, are you ready to claim Eli Manning is better than Tom Brady? If we use your brain, Eli Manning is the greatest of all time. Every team that beat the chiefs last year, are in fact better than the Super Bowl team, correct?
caleb is walking into a perfect situation and will get the love that Justin had earned. thats why caleb was sent to dinner with the locker room leaders and not ownership. he has to win that locker room.
What absolutely sucks is the fact that the first part of the season teams play like crap, and the less they do in preseason the more crappy the football gets. But you’re still going to demand fans to pay top dollar for those shit games. If you don’t get your crap level, a play up starting day one you should stop charging so much and freaking money for the game.
It can happen and it's going to happen. Add 10 15 or 20 players. And more to the practice squad and 2 by weeks . College is going to compete with the league because they will pay. Kids can play till they're 27 or 7 or 8 years of eligibility . Or just throw it out
“Need a bigger”???? A bigger WhAt??? Wtf we on mane? I fuck with you CD (as a chargers fan), but that shit behind TORREY’s head just seems heavy on the hard R… Why even have something that’s even questionable in the 1st place 🤷🏾♂️ …
Two of the starts were against the chargers lol at arrowhead two years in a row as a chargers fan from Missouri I remember them well….and yes chase won both of them miz Zou !!!!
Me and my wife were at both games as a tigers fan I was rooting for ya but hated u beat my chargers lol not a easy life being a chargers fan in the red kingdom lol love the show
why can't the owners have their 18 game 2 bye week season AND still have 3 or 4 preseason games. they want to dominate our attentions all year? that would be a great way to get there.
ESPN dude, this is RUclips, let your guests (expert in this case) talk more! You don’t have to push any narrative here. Drop the Disney out of your game if you want to podcast well!!
Idk if that player was joking or not, but there's a Birds Aren't Real social media meme account satirizing conspiracy theories, saying stuff like birds are surveillance drones controlled by the government. The guy gets interviewed on news shows and just totally commits to the bit. It's mostly just to sell tshirts tho.
Montez sweat and Keenan Allen are part of the Bear’s draft.
lol yes
Then Diggs is part of the Texans draft
@@brandonhallam51did they trade a draft pick for him?
@@REDNEF_ a 2nd
Damn tootin' they are. And I like to ask Bears fans, which would you rather have, 2nd and 4th picks or Montez Sweat and Keenan Allen. As in duh.
Fields simply ran out of time with the Bears. He was due for an extension and the Bears weren't going to pay it. They had no reason to either because he was developing slowly and wasn't a force multiplier on offense. People like to talk about how Poles "did him dirty" but really it was Pace and Nagy who kneecapped him from the start - from drafting him in a lame-duck season to throwing him to the wolves against a hungry Browns defense with no O-Line and a bad gameplan in his first NFL start. He showed flashes, but was never consistent as a playmaker.
As a Lions fan glad to not have to play against him in our division. Beat us once convincingly and should have won both except for last minute heroics. The Bears and Ravens were the only two teams we had trouble with. Expecting to do better against Bears this year. Caleb will be easier to defend.
Chase Daniels!!! my favorite back-up QB in NFL history. Hope someday you can work with the Chargers again in some aspect.
Thank you!!!
WHODATT
I think the Colts are a sleeper for top 5 offense. Richardson, Woods, returning from injury and Taylor with a full off-season with team. Adding Adonai Mitchell who was expected first rounder in the second along with Gould in the 5th. Adding that with Pittman jr,Downs, pierce,and the Colts could make a huge jump in the offensive rankings this year.
@stephentrader9142 look at the coaching! Roll the dice!
Man as a Missouri chargers fan I watched u play with the chiefs in two years back to back starting and beating the chargers both times at arrowhead I was super glad u got u when we did u were amazing at mizzou love the show!!
Goodell doesn't get the snot knocked out of him every weekend. Hard enough keeping teams healthy for 16-17 weeks. Player's & team's need pre-season game's to evaluate Player's. These guy's are trying to make a team, not only the ones they're on now, but other team's as well...
Couldn’t agree more
Justin Fields didnt get the ball out on time, was off target way to much, and was a one read qb. Thats not a starting caliber qb and the rest of the league agreed when none of them traded for him.
Uh, no. All of those comments are actually are about the bears piss-poor o-line. How quickly you forget facts when they don't fit your narrative
@thomaslook2252 Um no he started over 35 games and the offensive line wasn't horrible . They were ranked 19th out of 32. Your narrative is to blame the O line you're wrong sorry. It was way more him than them he made them look bad holding the ball for 5 seconds You'll see as soon as he gets a start the same things will pop up. You tried to get tough with him though but you lost TKO😂
Caleb can throw in structure … great for OLine… Justin terrible for OLine play… Justin Got a 6th rounder fir a reason
@@thomaslook2252 there are still people that haven't seen all the evidence how Fields isn't good?
@@thomaslook2252 nothing was out of the ordinary with the OL. Fields had the 2nd most time in the pocket of all NFL QB's. 80% of the sacks he took were from him standing in the pocket for 4+ seconds because he can go thru progressions after snap. OL had nothing to do with that
Chase, I was captivated by this conversation. Watched it from start to finish. Some really awesome insight from both of you. Definitely earned my subscription.
Thank you sir!
Go-Chagas-Goooooooooooooo
Wingo spoke facts about Fields if he was in that situation for the Bears yes he would be successful easily, but I'm happy he's with Pittsburgh now because they're a better overall organization.
Fields struggles to read defenses. He doesn’t really throw with anticipation. He frequently misses open receivers downfield and will more often than not choose the check down. He holds the ball too long that results in more sacks. He fumbles too much. Many of these issues were there at Ohio State. More talent around him will not make him a top 12 or 15 QB.
His rookie year Fields had Allen Robinson, David Montgomery, Cole Kmet who had 60 receptions and Darnell Mooney who had 81 receptions and 1055 yards. Year 2 Fields had David Montgomery, Khalil Herbert and his NFL leading 5.7 YPC, Kmet, Mooney and eventually Chase Claypool who was off to a solid career. Year 3 he had DJ Moore, Mooney, Claypool, Kmet, Herbert and Foreman. Plus a much improved OL and a top 5 defense the last half of the season. It’s not like Fields was treated like Bryce Young.
@@paulieprinceton4550 Bryce Young situation is exactly how Fields situation was. I don't believe in false narratives like the "he can't read a defense" thing because that's a lie. All those players u named on that team Fields had ain't as good as what Caleb has, which is good for him because I believe he will do good in the nfl, and with that roster he should. Mooney ain't Kenan Allen and Allen Robinson ain't DJ Moore but I'm not here to go back and forth with none of u fans because I have my opinion on the situation and u have yours and that's ok. I respectfully disagree.
@@CornealiusG24 "I don't believe tape because it doesn't fit my narrative". It's the same thing that's on his predraft scouting report. Whether or not you want to believe reality is irrelevant. Fields is bad. The NFL agrees. Going into a better situation wasn't going to make him significantly better at the stuff he still sucks at 3 years in.
@@TheMattTrakker Lol get yo weird ass off the internet 🤣 I don't care about none of that so keep it to yourself because that's what's "irrelevant". Again I don't believe in false narratives.
@@TheMattTrakker Lol get yo weird @$$ off the internet 🤣 I don't care about none of that so keep it to yourself because that's "irrelevant". Again I don't believe in false narratives.
Spitting facts about the draft grades and such. Well done.
Gracias
18 Regular Season Games?!?
That would be great for the fans, but not so much for the Players.
2 bye weeks is a must. And then probably a Week in between the end of Regular Season and the Playoffs... for ALL of the Teams makings the playoffs.
Currently have 2 bye weeks in the 17 game schedule
Chase! Can we please have a segment about the Chiefs camp coming up? Hollywood Brown, Rugby player, Worthy, TE from TCU, Free Agent TE, possibilities of 3 TE sets from Reid finally, fire hydrant RB, possibility of Brown, Worthy, Toney, Rice, Kelce, Pacheco….such an interesting group of players.
They are going to be fun to watch
@@ChaseDanielShow I hope they can get Toney reeled in from his late season antics. When Antonio Brown is goofing on you, you know you have to take a long look at yourself.
It tickles my Niners-homer fancy that Chase said Brock Purdy is a top 3 or 4 QB in the league for him.
I mean he is
Trey Wingo looks like he should play Pete Carol in a movie about Justin Fields having to back up Russel Wilson.
Was saying the same thing about Trey Wingo.
But leaving pre-season alone is also important there’s like 300 guys in the league that need those reps those chances to get a job
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Vikings fan. Never been more optimistic for the team than I am today. Got BOTH of our guys on offense and defense, plus a stud kicker.
As a fellow Vikings fan I totally agree
You guys crushed the draft!
@@ChaseDanielShow- not according to Mel Kiper Jr, Sam Acho and Shady McCoy from TV's "Speak", etc 🤦. This Vikes fan can't contain his excitement!!
@@ArcanumAscent Everyone says when a qb isn’t doing well it’s time for him to go. ie Justin Fields. However I believe that applies at the other end of the spectrum. Cousins won a lot of games for the Vikings but not the big one. So did Dak for Dallas. They cannot get them over the hump so better to move them on whilst they can still win a lot of games and perhaps the big one with someone else and try again with someone else.
Bills literally didn't want Xavier Worthy. He was available, they didn't want him. Not a long list of 167lb WR having long careers in the NFL.
🤔He wouldn't have worked in the Bill's scheme, but DeSean Jackson did a pretty good job with the Eagles
🤔 What was the name of his HC?...OH YEAH! Andy Reid!...and DeSean didn't have that other guy...what's his name🤔....you know!....oh yeah! Patrick Mahomes!....so, he (Worthy) just might break the trend😉
btw....although Xavier played a season with a broken hand, he never missed games while playing in college😮
@@sandman9390 Not a long list...names one player.
@@bigbox1431 Drew Pearson, Webster Slaughter, DeSean Jackson, Hollywood Brown, but Xavier doesn't have to have a Long Career, just play out his rookie contract. Maybe he will gain 10 pounds & only run a 4.22🤷🏻♂️...he just turned 21 on 4/27.
Do you think Andy isn't aware of His size? Do ya think he might figure that into the plays he designs for XW?
How many Super Bowls have the Bill's won with "big" receivers? 🤔
Keon Coleman will be playing a Lot more reps than XW.
There are no guarantees for anybody. XW is not a John Ross...he can actually run routes & catch. He was productive in college, including his 1st year. He not only ran the fastest 40 in the history of the combine,(4.21 v Tyreek 4.29 but also blew away folks like Tyreek & DeSean in 10 & 20 yd splits & has a 41" vertical ....he may not be the greatest
thing since sliced bread, but if anyone can utilize his skinny butt, it is Andy Reid.
He only has to catch 2 or 3 balls a game & I imagine him being about 5 yards from the defender when he does 😉
@@bigbox1431 ever heard of Drew Pearson? ....I didn't think so.
Xavier doesn't have to have a Long Career, just be productive on his rookie contract.
Maybe he will gain weight & only run a 4.22....there are no guarantees...but, I am sure Andy & Veach considered all of these things before they drafted him & know how they plan to use him 😉
@@sandman9390bust!
Chase if you're in Herbert's position would you prefer having a top of the line weapon like Nabers or are you more excited to see Pipkins replaced by Alt?
I’d prefer weapon but Harbaugh said…linemen are weapons! The tip of the spear
@@ChaseDanielShow Linemen are the tip of the spear? I guess that means Herbert just gets the shaft?
Obviously, I'm not Chase Daniel, lol!] That said , I can guarantee Chase Daniel knows that Herbert wants to be protected , he's had fractured rib cartilage, which is extremely painful! He's also broken fingers on each hand! Pipkins is terrible, and I guess you missed where Chase spoke on the Chargers draft and how it affects Herbert, whom he played on the Chargers with!
Herbert gotta be thinking about the new coaching situation. Jim Harbaugh runs the ball. A lot.
@@bmdubOr someone has to control the spear..
Not sure why everyone is crushing the Bills for trading with KC. KC got Xavier Worthy, but Bills got Keon Coleman, who may end up being the better receiver. AND, through multiple trade downs, they also parlayed that pick into DeWayne Carter and Sedrick Van Pran, who both may be day one starters. The Bills got more out of that trade and it isn’t even close.
Are Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper DeJean the two best corners? LOL. Not quite. I think the Lions have an argument against that.
I think so
DeJean will be too slow for outside CB. He will most likely end up a safety or slot CB.
@@ChaseDanielShow DeJean will be a safety.
Well said chase. You had a great career. Very knowledgeable
Personally i love the pre-season. It gives me a chance to see all these guys ive been following through camp and OTAs and finally see how they perform under the lights. It gets you excited for the future of your team. Maybe the NFL just needs to do a better job of marketing them. Instead of publicly downplaying them like they are trash.
exactly. Austin Ekeler probably would not have made the roster except for pre-season / special teams. So, for UDFA and 3rd string players would probably not have a shot at making the roster without pre-season. Also, without pre-season, the first few games will be sloppy because rookies won't have any game reps till the 1st regular season game. how many games will be lost due to ONE rookie mistake due to no pre-season reps.
I like chase Daniel. Hes a good qb. Only if he can be a damn starter!... I remember starting tyrek hill in fantasy when they played vs Denver, hill got me like 25 points still. Cd is solid... he needs to prove he can start man
Thanks man
@@ChaseDanielShow you're welcome sir. Much love from a fan
18 games extra bye week but LEAVE the preseason games ALONE let the udfas have a fkn chance for gods sake
That’s what I’m saying!!!
They make the game better imo
Preseason games should be for non-starters only.
I don’t care what Justin Fields might have done in some alternate universe, in this one he’s the backup in Pittsburgh.
Not for long
@@ChaseDanielShow - I watched him play for 3 years waiting for him to do something. He never did. I really don’t care what he does in Pittsburgh, I’m a Bears fan.
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@@ChaseDanielShowhe couldn't throw with anticipation or go through progressions even at Ohio State. He just isn't a good QB.
@@sloebone7399 you clearly didnt pay attention. but youre right that was typical of chicago media and their followers. the players were united with Justin.
This year's draft was nice, however however some of these guys are 5th and 6th year recruits due to NIL, transfer portal and pandemic. I think a lot of teams who needed it went heavy this draft but next year's draft is gonna be different and those who went ham this year are gonna regret it next year
Undisputed should replace their current crew with you two along with Richard Sherman! Great podcast!
With 20 games season NFL needed expand teams roasters to minimum 59 players.
Agreed
Cant wait!
The “if Justin had this he would have succeeded” discussion is so overplayed. It doesn’t happen over night fellas. Poles is doing amazing work.
We lost a good amount of games because of his 2 minute drives in 4th quarter either fumble interception or couldn’t convert almost every single time we where down but could win if we scored in season 2 it was like half the season
Bears were lucky to see what Fields could do with a little bit of help. Unfortunatly he didnt make enough people around him better.
If evaluating players is the goal…. Why not do multi team scrimmages even multi team mini camps… and eliminate preseason all together? They can still run live games in scrimmages… it’s much more controlled and guys can get a ton more reps against professionals. There’s always this thing about getting enough reps for backups. There’s always this rigid system everyone has to follow. Why can’t teams decide how they want to spend their preseason? Why can’t a coach decide what’s best to develop his players?
Funny how people act surprised that teams cant afford all these players when your paying qbs 50 + million
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I don’t think that about Justin Fields !
They think Poles is a genius - he’s not. Fields is bigger, faster, stronger, better arm. They blew their 1st pick BIG TIME.
The owners are pushing the league toward the casual fan market. Real fans appreciate what the pre-season brings. It’s always a blast seeing those overlooked guys pushing for a roster spot and even better when they get it. The problem is that requires investment that the casual market doesn’t have, and the easy money is in expanding the regular season games.
REAL fans
The eagles not being top 5 is fucking illegal. Their QB, O Line, Tight End, 2 Wide outs. Oh, and not to mention SAQUON FUCKING BARKLEY?! Cmon bruv.
I believe in Kellen moore
I know Daniel doesn't want to pick the Chargers because of a homer label but Chargers will fly under the radar and Harbaugh has proof he can turn around a team within his 1st year. Bolt up ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Facts
Is part of the issue for the NFL that there is so much downtime each year? Wouldn't a better option be to spread the existing schedule out longer, so that more games could be televised and player recovery and welfare could be optimised? Playing every week seems nonsensical over a full season with just one bye, now that international games are taking hold and the demands on both the NFL and players, is as high as it's ever been.
Chargers are embracing the rebuild. building the team the right way. There will be another 5 flashy wide receivers next year in the draft. Protect the quarterback!
They have to embrace it
If I were a backup QB... I would pay a team like Chicago or Minnesota to play a pre season game. You'd be on a 53 for sure..
lol yes
Not a word about Washington? The rebuild that's going on in DC is REAL! The NFC east is once again arguably the best division in football.
I liked what they did in free agency
Washington had a pretty solid draft too but gotta give it to my chargers 😤😤
Isn’t Malik Willis still w the Titans? Him and Purdy the only 2 that are still w their teams they were drafted by.
How is being with taylor swift a flex? Shes been around.. thats nasty!
If you're going to increase the amount of games. You need to increase the rosters and the cap.
And bye weeks!!
I think some important decision have been made before the preseson. I remember when Chase Daniel played pre season early in his career. He outplayed the other quarterback candidates but was not selected to be team quarterback. Chase Daniel was still in the NFL when the other quarterbacks were gone. Some teams "suck" and this is not caused by the people on the field. When a team has top draft picks for a decade or more, the problem can't be solved on the field. For years I loved football. Then the new rules that diminshes the ability of the defense, inconsistent /incompetent officiating, etc. motivated me to stop watching games. And, I was NOT enthused by having games in other countries. How about a game in St. Louis, San Diego, Oakland. The NFL leadership is so damn greedy they will end up "cutting their own wrists".
Fields still holds the ball to long and don’t see wide open receivers that are right in front of his face and now is a backup qb! It also don’t matter how many shiny pieces they have on offense when they’ve failed the last 4 years to fix their O line. If they can’t protect the qb long enough for routs to open, they’ll be useless…
4 preseason games weren't enough much less three now. That's why the first two games every year really kind of suck. Penalties every 3rd play, guys getting hurt because their bodies aren't conditioned enough for the pounding of 60 min games. Getting rid of preseason is killing the quality of the regular season and making the first quarter of game really unwatchable. I'm getting to the point already of just watching highlights for the first four weeks to figure out what teams would be fun to watch a whole game.
It would not surprise me if Bears offense is top 5 later in the season. Caleb, DJ, Keenan, Odunze, Kmet, Everett, Swift plus the new offensive coaching staff are a formula for success. For fun, add the field position game into the mix with the Bears drafting the Crocodile Punter. Keep your eyes on the NFC North this season.
We shall see! I agree
The piper will always have to be paid. Expanding the season to 18 games and cutting pre-season games to 2 games, is a MUCH harder season on player health and harder to develop/evaluate talent. Id say that for this to work, active rosters would have to expand to 63 and practice squads to 20. The cap would have to be raised significantly for expanded rosters and the added wear and tear on player health due to expanded seasons. That might ameliorate some of the issues because expanded seasons mean more money for the owners and theyd be doing it on the backs of the players. More games, more money. The players should share in some of that.
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Miss you on the Chargers man. Class act. Excited for this season. BOLT UP! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Me too! Appreciate it
Can Trey Wingo have a normal conversation? He goes all full tilt ESPN on a podcast... Calm it down a bit dude.
Hahaha I love it
Facts on what he said about Justin having the team they built for Williams.
Regardless of the weapons, JF1 held the ball far too long, was slow in processing, and lacked consistency with his passing accuracy. The Bears expect Caleb to be better, but we don't know yet what he will do. We'll see....
Just watch the game Caleb became a star against Texas it will show you how good worthy is
Worthy is legit
Vikings will be top 10 offense and defense this year for sure. I think McCarthy starts game 4. Punped about this season.
Ohhh that is saying something
The pre season is the only time other than the playoffs where guys give it all 100 % all game. Theyre a ton of no names. But its entertaining af
Yes for sure but guys need games not scrimmages
18 game season…backup QBs will be more valuable, rosters need to expand and salary cap go way up.
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A lot time preseason is used to evaluate players under actual game speed
Yesssss
You guys want to here a bad situation, Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh hoping to compete for the starting job or sit under Wilson for a year before being there QB, that’s what they told Fields, that was never there plan, they want him to be a punt returner, that’s FKD up, lieing to him pisses me off🤬🤬🤬
How is Eagles 🦅 not in this conversation about winners of the draft? Who drafted better?
They def are!!! 2 best DB’s
You think they would bring back the developmental league? I don't see how else you can properly evaluate your players.
They already have it UFL
@@ChaseDanielShow thank you sir
Caleb has plenty of top calibre weapons. That alone makes his situation unique. His relationship with Waldron will be the deciding factor in the Bears making the playoffs.
I absolutely loved the Dallas Turner and Terrion Arnold picks for MIN and DET.
No doubt that Dallas Turner was a solid pick for Minnesota. But to get to #17, they traded a 2nd rounder and 2 lower pick this year PLUS a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th next year!! 6 picks total! Jerrah talks about "all in!" Minnesota just went all in! If minny's 2-1st round picks don't work out, Kwesi/gm could be looking for work. He only has a 1st and 2-5ths left next year.
@@jamesbickle4912Yes, that and $60,000,000 of freed up cap (AFTER paying Jefferson) to play with in free agency next season. Having that much capital means that they can sign a seasoned vet(s) to fill the gap that needs addressing most, then trade down, or maybe even trade out of the first round in order to recoup or improve the picks they traded to move down this year, so in reality, they didn't really pay anything at all in order to move down and get the guys they wanted. Kwesi isn't at risk of losing his job. He absolutely nailed the draft this year.
@@joojoosasa ????? The picks are gone. Draft picks feed teams with LOW cost players. I stand with what I said. GM 101.
"We're gonna have some surprises here" (proceeds to name the absolute chalk, front-running choices for best offenses). Now, I'm not saying the list is wrong, just that wasn't "spicy" or "hot take" or "surprising" in the least. Again, I think the picks make sense, just not in any way, shape or form surprising.
Surprising to Philly, Buffalo, Ravens fans
Chargers miss you legend. Stay close to the team please.
Yes sir!!
The Ravens being slept on big time
Agree!!!
Great team, they will get to a SB in next year or two
Chase you don’t even mention Rome Odunze. Come On Man!
If the players are demanding more money than the owners should be making more and not by over charging fans for tickets
There lies the issue
The fans will always carry the financial burden. Just like the middle class of American taxpayers. Feed the rich
It’s not affordable for most to get the whole game experience anymore
@@davidsellers3639 Unfortunately, I agree.
Poles never surrounded Fields with talent only thing he did was in his last year gave him dj Moore who got 1,300 yards and Darnell Wright, no other receiver's or offensive line help. But now with caleb you roll out the red carpet for him with a slew of talent even though left tackle and center still needs to be addressed somewhat but overall Poles was biased since Fields wasn't his draft pick . Poles did a disservice to him.
Idk Justin Fields is a good dude but he needs a lot of development. I personally think his feel in the pocket is still bad and he needs to learn how to layer the ball ...i think he lacks natural instincts for a QB. It was evident when Tyson Bagent stepped in. Im sorry but if you are good it will show beyond who is on the squad.
Broncos country let’s Bo
Let’s BO
Not having the Baltimore Ravens within the top 5 offense's is stupid.
Is It tho?
@@ChaseDanielShow Yes, it is. Probably just some bias on your part.
If the preseason isn't for the starters but the backups then why have the starters play in them at all and if you aren't playing starters then why can't they lower the ticket prices and concession stand prices?
You need more games for players to develop and pre season games are still 💵 makers for nfl
Fields can’t read a defense. I don’t think more talent around him would change that.
False
@@ChaseDanielShow thanks chase for clarity. JF will be great in Pittsburgh. I'm still upset with the way they did him in Chicago but business is business.
Yeah right. You’re in for a surprise with your new QB. Have fun.
@@joshuat7171 you had a shit organisation living in one year back in 1985 and keep living on it, you GM's put a shit team together then tour it down to make it more shitty and think JF was going to win with shit but we all know shit is what you flush down the toilet not on a football field and the Bears orgazation is just that a shit organisation that almost destroyed a QB but who God bless no man curse. So, now you've stocked your team with players and a shiny new QB who all of you think is going to bring you multiple super bowls like KC we will see everything unfold because God don't like ugly and that's what you'll did to JF, ugly. I'm out drah enjoy your new shiny team and your new shiny QB. ✌️
How can you not talk about the Vikings? how? Two premium draft picks and not a word about them
The Vikings were one of the lead stories going into the draft, would they trade up for Maye or stand pat? The question has been answered. I truly don’t think the Pats would have traded back for anything remotely attractive to the Vikings. The Patriots wanted Maye and judging by how fast they turned in the card they didn’t want to be talked out of it.
I think they 100% won the first round!
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Too bad the Pats are not set up to work on his mechanics for a year without the threat of playing him.
They’re gonna start that poor kid and he’s never gonna reach his potential. What a shame!
@@joshuat7171 you’re sort of writing him off early there. What if Mayo and Wolf know what they’re doing? I liked their draft, I’ve loved the guys we chose to resign… You’re right in that they do need to have patience and they’ll face pressure to play him but I think the fan base will be a lot more patient after what we did to Mac Jones. I’m perfectly happy with another 4-13 year with him on the bench as long as there is growth and improvement with the team. I want to give the coaches time to implement their new offense. The O line needs to be tested to find the right grouping (another draft would help) etc. etc. Play calling needs to gel, etc, etc. But if we are patient, next draft our high pick will go to the O line and shoring up pieces. Fingers crossed. Just don’t write him (or us) off yet.
Patrick Mahomes will never pass tom brady.. you cant pass someone that you lost twice to. Once in the superbowl and once on the way to the superbowl in which brady ended up winning.
Maybbbbbbe he can
By that logic, are you ready to claim Eli Manning is better than Tom Brady?
If we use your brain, Eli Manning is the greatest of all time.
Every team that beat the chiefs last year, are in fact better than the Super Bowl team, correct?
caleb is walking into a perfect situation and will get the love that Justin had earned. thats why caleb was sent to dinner with the locker room leaders and not ownership. he has to win that locker room.
I hope he can come back to the chargers someday to be in the office or a coach
That would be sick
What absolutely sucks is the fact that the first part of the season teams play like crap, and the less they do in preseason the more crappy the football gets. But you’re still going to demand fans to pay top dollar for those shit games. If you don’t get your crap level, a play up starting day one you should stop charging so much and freaking money for the game.
Basically what he saying screw you guys that are not superstars
The nfl needs to set up the league like the mlb. There should be a AA league. No more preseason needed and now fa are not just on the couch.
Greed talks! What goodell really dislikes is the small TV audiences pre-game draws
Don’t matttttter
Rather we have 18 weeks or not they still need a preseason
They could do 18 to 20 games if the cut to 53 players is after the first 2 or 4 games
20 games? You wild
It can happen and it's going to happen. Add 10 15 or 20 players. And more to the practice squad and 2 by weeks . College is going to compete with the league because they will pay. Kids can play till they're 27 or 7 or 8 years of eligibility . Or just throw it out
What are the players willing to give up??
@@ChaseDanielShow they don't have to give up anything. The revenue will be there. This game will always evolve
⚡️⚡️Herbert will never go under 4,000 yards in his career!
FACTS
“Need a bigger”???? A bigger WhAt???
Wtf we on mane? I fuck with you CD (as a chargers fan), but that shit behind TORREY’s head just seems heavy on the hard R…
Why even have something that’s even questionable in the 1st place 🤷🏾♂️ …
Odd he doesn't mention Rome Odunze when discussing the offensive weapons the Bears have.
He’s unproven in the nfl
@@ChaseDanielShow True, still think a top 10 pick is worth mentioning
Two of the starts were against the chargers lol at arrowhead two years in a row as a chargers fan from Missouri I remember them well….and yes chase won both of them miz Zou !!!!
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Me and my wife were at both games as a tigers fan I was rooting for ya but hated u beat my chargers lol not a easy life being a chargers fan in the red kingdom lol love the show
I will go out on a limb and predict that Ladd McConkey will get more yards than Brock Bowers
WAY more
why can't the owners have their 18 game 2 bye week season AND still have 3 or 4 preseason games. they want to dominate our attentions all year? that would be a great way to get there.
WAY too many games sir
Mentioning Ryan Pace isn't the flex you think it is...
Especially after Pace pissed away 10 million of the Bears for two shitty back up years from you...
For me….made my career
If the NFL cared about the players, they would not have regular Thursday games.
That’s always going to happen
Sorry man, I watched every Bears game Justin feels just can’t get it
Cardinals had the most yards in the last 4 games of 2023. Add MHJ and Troy Benson to that. If their line holds up they’ll be very good too
Very good
Lost Hollywood...so
@@gnd111 Hollywood was out injured the last 4 games so... no difference.
Why does everyone make excuses for Fields but not for Mac Jones? Jones had much less to work with and showed more.
Fields is a much better qb
@@ChaseDanielShowdo you think Luke getsy was the issue?
ESPN dude, this is RUclips, let your guests (expert in this case) talk more! You don’t have to push any narrative here. Drop the Disney out of your game if you want to podcast well!!
LOL
Idk if that player was joking or not, but there's a Birds Aren't Real social media meme account satirizing conspiracy theories, saying stuff like birds are surveillance drones controlled by the government. The guy gets interviewed on news shows and just totally commits to the bit. It's mostly just to sell tshirts tho.
Lol
Rodger probably: well ill give you 8 reasons why 2 less preseason games is better.
More attendance at games that count 1-4
More revenue
5-8
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Lol
It has become a different game and this will change it more , all time records will be from a diffent sport