Best SMG of World War Two: The Beretta M38A

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    The Beretta Model 38A was one of the very best submachine guns of World War Two. Designed by veteran Beretta engineer Tullio Marengoni (who designed most of Beretta’s pistols as well as the Beretta M1918 SMG and 1918/30 carbine), it was the first Italian weapon to use a cartridge equivalent to 9x19mm Parabellum instead of 9mm Glisenti. Development began in 1935, and the final version entered production in January 1938.
    The change from the Model 38 to 38A is unclear, but seem most likely to be the change from the top ejection of the prototypes to the left-side ejection of the production model. The 38A was formally adopted by the Italian Army in July 1938, but issue was delayed until 1940/41 because Beretta first produced a 20,000-unit order for the Romanian military.
    By 1941, the basic design had been significantly simplified, and the Model 38/42 would significantly reduce production cost by removing the magazine well cover, barrel shroud, and removable firing pin. Simplified 38/42, 38/43, and 38/44 models would enter production, but original 38As were also manufactured until 1944 (this particular example is dated 1943). The gun was very popular with both Italian and German troops, and production continued under German occupation late in the war. Total numbers are unavailable, but are probably in excess of 500,000. The gun was so popular that Beretta was able to restart production after the war and continue selling them until the early 1960s.
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  • @TheCheat_1337
    @TheCheat_1337 2 года назад +1774

    "Do you really need a bayonet on an SMG? Mmmmm...not really."
    *Imperial Japanese Army glares angrily*

    • @Drownedinblood
      @Drownedinblood 2 года назад +78

      Not crazy if you think smgs will be used in cqc anyway tbh.

    • @redrb26dett
      @redrb26dett 2 года назад +27

      The imperial empire (Star Wars)had bayonets for there blaster rifles

    • @truekhmer7292
      @truekhmer7292 2 года назад +57

      Well, the Japanese Army barely had any Type 100 so… No problem is there’s no SMG in the first place

    • @M.M.83-U
      @M.M.83-U 2 года назад +24

      Italian issued dedicated daggers as companion pieces for paratroopers etc...

    • @zombi3johnny331
      @zombi3johnny331 2 года назад +13

      @Scott Reynolds who says you can't

  • @thehungriergrue
    @thehungriergrue 2 года назад +810

    "Front trigger semi auto. Rear trigger fully auto."
    Rear trigger clearly looks more used.

    • @andyruse4670
      @andyruse4670 2 года назад +54

      To me it looks like the rear trigger might have gotten stuck at some point, and instead of disassembling to free it up, they used a punch to beat it into moving.

    • @davidvulakh744
      @davidvulakh744 2 года назад +62

      @@andyruse4670 Given the timeframe, that might have been what actually happened.

    • @werwar27
      @werwar27 2 года назад +91

      if you pull both you get the legendary full semi auto fire

    • @leonardodenni1562
      @leonardodenni1562 2 года назад +16

      @@werwar27 also known as "big boom in your hands"

    • @JustIn-op6oy
      @JustIn-op6oy 2 года назад +11

      @@werwar27 yep, the timing is tricky but it's so worth it. Seeing a firearm magically sprout as many barrels as there are rounds in the magazine so it can discharge them all at once is pretty sweet. However, since it usually requires a bit of necromancy (the whole blood sacrifice & invoking the soul of a dead gun designer routine) to accomplish, it could be argued that it's a religious practice and therefore protected under the 1A.

  • @towakin7718
    @towakin7718 2 года назад +556

    ATF: How long did you have this machine gun?
    Guy: 20 years.
    ATF: That's impossible, you would have been nine years old!
    Guy: Yeah, sounds about right.

  • @danschneider9921
    @danschneider9921 2 года назад +1708

    Ian- the American of Scottish heritage who lives a double life of a Frenchman with with a desire to be a Finn who is actually a closeted Italian...

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 2 года назад +156

      Ian is a real everyman he finds good and bad in everything regardless of national origin.
      It’s one of his strengths imo

    • @michaelangelomaimone3181
      @michaelangelomaimone3181 2 года назад +36

      Don’t forget the Finns

    • @MichaelYT22
      @MichaelYT22 2 года назад +4

      200th 👍

    • @pigchunk2216
      @pigchunk2216 2 года назад +26

      Well Scotland loves Italy for beating England in the euro

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 2 года назад +6

      @@pigchunk2216 lol and plenty of us English love Italy and Scotland too.

  • @jordangreenwade2931
    @jordangreenwade2931 2 года назад +479

    Ian:"Do you really need a bayonet on a sub machine gun?"
    Empire Of Japan:"Yes and light Machine guns too!!"

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh 2 года назад +45

      It's a shame they didn't put a bayonet on their katanas.

    • @sirderp2343
      @sirderp2343 2 года назад +36

      @@mrkeogh Nah, they needed to put bipod on those.

    • @travishabursky4362
      @travishabursky4362 2 года назад +22

      Chesty Puller wanted to put bayonets on flamethrowers, things can always get weirder.

    • @Helltanz98
      @Helltanz98 2 года назад +16

      @@travishabursky4362 I'm sure the Japanese Army would have agreed that would have been a great idea.

    • @smokeyplane3285
      @smokeyplane3285 2 года назад +8

      @E Van
      would you put bayonet lugs on a minigun

  • @Xerxes1688
    @Xerxes1688 2 года назад +194

    Strange that he didn't cover the mechanics of the trigger pack. Also, worth mentioning (which Ian did on the 2018 video) that the magazines are double-stack, double-feed, which is also the case for the Villar-Perosa, or the OVP, Beretta 1918. They got that right from the very get go.

  • @iknowmy3table
    @iknowmy3table 2 года назад +32

    Thanks for reminding me that the Italians fielded 3 different pressure loadings of 9mm during WWII to make logistics as fun as possible

  • @ypfsg7177
    @ypfsg7177 2 года назад +42

    TheVillar Perosa that Sean Connery uses to shoot the tail off their own bi-plane in The Last Crusade is actually a mock up made from two upside down m38’s! “I’m sorry son, they got us.”

  • @farenheit1100
    @farenheit1100 2 года назад +118

    I got a chance to shoot two of these back in the early 70's that were brought home by a US officer as war trophies. It was amazing. they had the 40 round mags. The finish as as nice as any "Baretta shotgun. i was able to hold an entire mag dump into a B27 x ring , I think it is my favorite of all the MGs that I have fired,. We shot both factory and reloads that day and both functioned flawlessly in the total of 8 boxes that we fired that day,. thanks for posting

  • @maledetto1221
    @maledetto1221 2 года назад +317

    The production during the German occupation is one of the funniest stories in my opinion, it's unknown how many were produced because they were stolen by anyone: workers at the factory, partisans during the shipping, fascist regime itself, etc... And the German were really pissed off about it, they were the last one to get the final guns. Also the production was very slow due to the different models and the workers kept their normal shifts ignoring the pressure of the Germans, on top off that they also had to fight the fascist officer that kept asking for custom guns(like gold plated, engraved, etc...)

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins 2 года назад +62

      Its like a cookie jar only a crate full of guns

    • @lanfrancoadreani9212
      @lanfrancoadreani9212 2 года назад +29

      I would Like to read about this myself, can you suggest me any reference?

    • @norwegianwiking
      @norwegianwiking 2 года назад +26

      This could be turned into a good comedy

    • @gastone2168
      @gastone2168 2 года назад +16

      Also military deposits were full of them due the fact that before 1943 were issued only ti officials.

    • @flip849
      @flip849 2 года назад +9

      Italy as its finest

  • @jean-pascalesparceil9008
    @jean-pascalesparceil9008 2 года назад +61

    Captured Beretta SMGs were used by the SAS in 1942: some were used by the French/British/Greek team that destroyed 21 German planes at Heraklion Airfield (Creta) on June 13th 1942.

    • @fernandorivera4719
      @fernandorivera4719 11 месяцев назад +7

      Beretta has been selling weapons since the motherfucking battle of Lepanto.
      Their pistol was also one of the best, if not the best, pistol of WW2

  • @vernonhess3842
    @vernonhess3842 2 года назад +42

    Ian did a good job not letting “left hand eject privilege” sway his production.

  • @blamokapow137
    @blamokapow137 2 года назад +399

    Beretta is quality for sure. Oldest exsisting gun company.

    • @shoelessbandit1581
      @shoelessbandit1581 2 года назад +69

      @@bocefusmurica4340 I'd imagine there's a bank somewhere that's been around longer, those things never die

    • @blamokapow137
      @blamokapow137 2 года назад +1

      @@bocefusmurica4340 word!

    • @Cristian-nn5jj
      @Cristian-nn5jj 2 года назад +34

      @@shoelessbandit1581 I think the oldest is a japanese construction company that was contracted to build a buddhist temple in 500ad or something.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 2 года назад +66

      @@bocefusmurica4340 Not even CLOSE. The oldest existing company, possibly the oldest company ever, is a Japanese construction company founded in 578 CE.
      The oldest existing Western/European business is an inn in Austria founded around 800 CE which is documented to have served Charlemagne at one point.
      Then there's a few hundred hotels, breweries, and winemakers.
      The oldest manufacturing company is a chemical company founded in Japan in 1395, oldest Western manufacturer is an Austrian clothing company (1434).
      In Italy, the oldest existing manufacturer is a boatmaking company founded 1438.
      Just liiiiiiiiiiiittle bit older than Beretta.
      And yes, Shoeless Bandit, there are four Italian banks founded in the 1470s alone that still exist, and many younger ones.

    • @vadimflaks7795
      @vadimflaks7795 2 года назад +11

      @@bocefusmurica4340 Not even close. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_companies

  • @florentleider222
    @florentleider222 2 года назад +20

    At a time I owned one - in perfect condition- I was given by a french colonel who had fought in the Monte Cassiono area. I got the accompanying semi_vest with 6 magazines (+1) for (40 cartridges.), worn across the chest. The buttplate was so well adjusted that by chance I discovered years later that there was a small trap door. When I lifted it up, I discovered the cleaning kit perfectly packed! in the butt. A beauty !!. I was also a box of original italian cartridges, a special 9x19 more powerful than the regular 9 parabellum, and I was advised to never use them in a handgun.

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog1749 2 года назад +86

    My grandad who fought with the RHA said that the Berretas were top prizes in North Africa and much sought after. Anyone who got one either held onto it or traded it for a lot of kit.

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 2 года назад +3

      @@zoiders well, obviously!! he was in the SAS as well!:)
      Good point though. Why do people make crap up?!

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 2 года назад +5

      @@zoiders probably something to do with thinking they were ‘the best’. The sort of person who thinks they ‘would have made a really good SAS trooper’ because they’ve watched the Omaha beach scene on Saving Private Ryan five times now and basically that makes them a hardened war veteran!

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 2 года назад +2

      @@zoiders I shall look out for that book. I like the stories of the ‘Other guys’. Ones you never hear about. And I agree with your point, too. I just read a book on the Royal Navy patrol service. They were amazing! Grubby fishermen in trawlers painted grey with WW1 guns bolted onto them. Keeping the coastal convoys of coal going. Corelli Barnett doesn’t even mention them in ‘Engage the Enemy More Closely”.

  • @noahwail2444
    @noahwail2444 2 года назад +28

    I realy wonder why it wasn´t mentioned, that it as one of the very few SMGs in WW2, was double stacked, double feed, and thus did not have all the feed problems most others had.

  • @travishabursky4362
    @travishabursky4362 2 года назад +139

    The Elbonians are sweating hard at that barrel shroud, but they know they can’t afford anything that nice.

    • @bickyboo7789
      @bickyboo7789 2 года назад +3

      Do you mean those types that kinda c grip with their elbow sticking out when you say Elbonian?

    • @xmlash234
      @xmlash234 2 года назад +3

      Tis unfortunate that their chief export is dirt

    • @totenkopf28
      @totenkopf28 2 года назад +6

      They would beat a steel sheet with hammer until it looks like that if they wanted it 😂

  • @culshie
    @culshie 2 года назад +141

    British Troops in North Africa sought these out as they were well admired, (the only Italian Firearm they felt that way about) back in the seventies there warnings to not use Italian 9mm surplus in alloy frame pistols due to it being extra hot.

    • @culshie
      @culshie 2 года назад +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Actually they were pretty disappointed when they discovered it was .380 ACP and not 9mmP.

    • @LARPing_Services_LLC
      @LARPing_Services_LLC Год назад

      Ackshually, they had some captured Italian ammo to run them when "found".
      Aside from battlefield captures, non-negible amounts were secured by the Allies from surrendered troops after El Alamein, from the shit left behind in Tunisia and then Sicily, from the troops that managed to surrender to them after the Italian capitulation, etc.

    • @Frank-pc2rs
      @Frank-pc2rs 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nah the Beretta pistols were sought after and they did appreciate the Breda M37.

  • @coopersand911
    @coopersand911 2 года назад +80

    This is the gun that started it for me!! Playing Medal of Honor Allied Assault's DLC Breakthrough as a kid, this was my favorite weapon, and ever since then, any and all weapons have grabbed my interests firmly! Thanks Ian!!

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime 2 года назад +3

      That was a nice gun. Too bad that game never gave you any ammo.

    • @DorothyGameplays
      @DorothyGameplays Год назад

      So we are here for the same reason... loved to user her at the assault in Gela. Loved the sound and the design

  • @trombonista92
    @trombonista92 2 года назад +12

    my father was an MP in the italian air force, in the early 70s, was given this gun, the arresting hocks were all worn down to nothing, and they usually didnt work unless the muzzle was level and horizontal, also he main springs were very soft , and when in full auto the firing pin is stuck out permanently, , so it would happen that a solider would sit down, slam the stock on the ground, the bolt would fly back, strip a round, and just start full auto magdumping itself , often it would stop firing once it fell horizontal into the ground, but some times it would just keep going, i think 3 of his collogues accidentally shot them selves this way, no one died

  • @Jamez84
    @Jamez84 2 года назад +28

    As a machinist I love watching Ian disassemble these and explain how these guns were produced and manufactured. 😊😀

  • @tekumeku2244
    @tekumeku2244 2 года назад +87

    Favorite War Prize of the Americans who fought in the Africa/Italian campaigns

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy 2 года назад

      I remember reading that the Beretta M1935 was pretty popular as well - I imagine it being a lot easier to stuff into a backpack and bring home.

    • @SnoopReddogg
      @SnoopReddogg 2 года назад

      Where there any left to trophy by the time they got there???

    • @454FatJack
      @454FatJack 2 месяца назад

      @@AshleyPomeroy34, .380/.32❤

  • @jonathanenglish9146
    @jonathanenglish9146 2 года назад +43

    I remember the Italian Coastal Patrol Units in Sinai issued those SMGs to their sailors back in the early 90's. We would sit on the CPUs in Sharm el Sheik harbor to count refugees coming across the Red Sea after Iraq invaded Kuwait.

    • @sandrodunatov485
      @sandrodunatov485 2 года назад +8

      It was standard issue to many (if not all) Navy units back then, iirc.

    • @DefunctYompelvert
      @DefunctYompelvert 2 года назад +2

      Seems most Navies after WW2 received the heavy, obsolescent first gen SMGs as hand me downs. The British empire had lanchesters, the US had Thompsons,

    • @ironhead2008
      @ironhead2008 2 года назад +2

      @@DefunctYompelvert And grease guns, they were used as sidearms for tank crews and other units through Desert Storm.

    • @DefunctYompelvert
      @DefunctYompelvert 2 года назад +3

      @@ironhead2008 they lasted until the 2000s in national guard use, even as late as 2006-2008 officially I’ve read.

  • @Jack72607
    @Jack72607 2 года назад +84

    Unfortunately for the Italian soldiers on the ground mab38s were reserved almost exclusively for officers and were a rare enough sight in the field. Officers had to purchase the 9x19 m38 ammo with their own pockets and it was a very scarce commodity. Much easier to get supplied (or steal) from the Germanic ally

    • @kinghoodofmousekind2906
      @kinghoodofmousekind2906 2 года назад +25

      >when the army goes from f@scist to anarco-capitalist to supply itself

    • @liviomerlo7764
      @liviomerlo7764 2 года назад +18

      Ummm, my father was a corporal in the paratropper regiment and he had one.

    • @larrymcjones
      @larrymcjones 2 года назад +2

      @@liviomerlo7764 weren’t corporals technically NCOs?

    • @67claudius
      @67claudius 2 года назад +5

      The 185th Paratroopers Division "Folgore" had this gun.

    • @GiulioBalestrier
      @GiulioBalestrier 2 года назад +7

      As far as I've read, this weapon was available to paratroopers (Folgore division), marines (San Marco regiment) and PAI (Italian Africa Police). It might have been available on purchase to other troops as you say, but apparently it was a scarce commodity.

  • @badopinionsrighthere
    @badopinionsrighthere 2 года назад +54

    Did we finally find something to unseat Ian's love for the Suomi?

    • @rodgerjohnson3375
      @rodgerjohnson3375 2 года назад +11

      This is likely a lighter gun.

    • @johnstewart4646
      @johnstewart4646 2 года назад +9

      Think there enough love to go around

    • @jojomaster7675
      @jojomaster7675 2 года назад +7

      Yes, but only for one reason: _Left side ejection port_

    • @vitoscaletta7151
      @vitoscaletta7151 2 года назад +3

      @@rodgerjohnson3375 Yep, Suomi is Thompson heavy

    • @454FatJack
      @454FatJack 2 месяца назад

      Blond or Brunette? TaKe both ❤

  • @nigeh5326
    @nigeh5326 2 года назад +28

    I watch a few RUclips firearm channels but Ian is the best presenter I’ve seen.
    He explains the technical side really well and his enthusiasm while there is not over the top like some.
    When he is on the range he keeps cool and points out just what you need to know about whatever he is firing and of course he gives us the mag dump, unless it is sensible not to as with the recent silenced Sten.
    Cheers Ian long may your videos continue
    👍

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 2 года назад +3

      Quite simply Ian is a legend in his own lifetime

    • @GRHrivnak
      @GRHrivnak 2 года назад +2

      My other favorite gun YT channels are Paul Harrell and Hickock45. Paul for his detailed chronograph tests and Hickock for his history and shooting demos.

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 2 года назад +9

    This submachine gun was so far ahead of its time. Very well thought out, well made, and beautifully finished. For the time it was made its difficult to find fault with it. It surpasses many other guns that were designed well past WWII

  • @_A.K_
    @_A.K_ 2 года назад +76

    Ian is really lucky. A fairly rare all consecutive serial gun that can easily be damaged by taking it apart as intended and they let him go about gutting it for us to see.

    • @totenkopf28
      @totenkopf28 2 года назад +23

      Cause he have the license to dissassemble lol, i remember that one time he accidentally fixed a broken gun while dissassembling it. I forget what video tho but he really lived up to his name, the Gun Jesus 😂

    • @StressmanFIN
      @StressmanFIN 2 года назад +3

      How so? Is it fragile?

    • @Bambihunter1971
      @Bambihunter1971 2 года назад +3

      There's a big difference between Bubba and Ian taking a gun apart. I would bet any that he does not understand, he researches first. And, by now, he has a feel for how they all come apart. Largely, there is a theme to most guns disassembly, though he has certainly found some really weird ones to be sure.

    • @ballisticjason8889
      @ballisticjason8889 2 года назад +5

      Disassembling a gun doesn't damage it lmao, believe it or not, guns are designed to be disassembled.

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 2 года назад +1

      @Ballistic Jason it's the reassembly which can go wrong...this little spring can't really be needed...lol

  • @StacheMan26
    @StacheMan26 2 года назад +22

    I would presume one of the factors leading to the M38A continuing in production alongside its simplified descendants was that Beretta simply couldn't afford to take all the lines offline in order to retool them.

    • @geodkyt
      @geodkyt 2 года назад +4

      Exactly. The production inefficiencies are still more efficient in the near term than retooling. Now, when the war is over (or mostly.won) and you don't need tens of thousands of SMGs "yesterday", you can shut down and retool.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 2 года назад +7

      Probably more the fact that Beretta outsourced the building of many parts to family workshops in Val Trompia (they still did for their shotguns for several decades after the war). Once the workshop had tooled to produce a part, it was simply not economical to retool, and, since the workshops were labour-intensive family business, the economy in building a part that was intended to simplify mass production was negligible so, along with the mass produced parts built directly by beretta, there was still a continue influx of original M38A parts.

    • @Bambihunter1971
      @Bambihunter1971 2 года назад +2

      If by afford you mean lost production, then I totally agree. They needed all the SMG's they could get.

  • @cdncampcook8680
    @cdncampcook8680 2 года назад +76

    That gift eclipsed every single other gift ever given.

    • @hugebartlett1884
      @hugebartlett1884 2 года назад +4

      A boxful of ammo at Christmas would have been handy.

    • @BortBortson
      @BortBortson 2 года назад

      @@hugebartlett1884 you don't give a new toy without the batteries

    • @phenethylamine91
      @phenethylamine91 2 года назад +1

      I bet the kid went "gee whiz"

  • @brapgabslab7336
    @brapgabslab7336 2 года назад +28

    "Do you really need a bayonet on an SMG? Mmmmm...not really."
    Yes I do how else am I supposed to take a trench do you know how much more efficient I could be with a bayonet affixed on my SMG.

  • @panzerdragoonss4021
    @panzerdragoonss4021 2 года назад +15

    I watched "The gods must be crazy" yesterday and I believe the leader of the villains was using one of these.

  • @alessandrorona6205
    @alessandrorona6205 2 года назад +10

    My father was given one of those in 1986 when he had to go trough the conscription mandatory year. As a conscript he was assigned to guard duties. Fancy modern stuff like the AR70 or powerful stuff like the BM59 was reserved to professionals combat personnel.

    • @enricofesta1161
      @enricofesta1161 2 года назад

      I BM59 nell’86 erano già largamente diffusi tra i reparti di leva non “operativi”, perciò la dotazione di ogni militare dipendeva dall’armeria della caserma e dal suo inventario, non dalle priorità. Quel discorso vale per gli AR. Nell’86 i MAB erano ancora dotazione ufficiale delle FFAAA e delle FFOO, ecco perché tuo padre li ha usati.

    • @alessandrorona6205
      @alessandrorona6205 2 года назад

      @@enricofesta1161 davvero? Il BM59 è difficile da sparare, sia per il calibro grosso che per il calcio poco ergonomico ed non adatto a gestire il rinculo elevato. Oltretutto ho letto che era dato alle truppe che combattevano fino al 1995. È stato usato sia in Libano che in Somalia. Quindi pensavo fosse dato solo ai soldati di professione con molta pratica di tiro sulle spalle.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 2 года назад +5

    I eagerly await the day you go to that one guy in Switzerland who has the only surviving Armaguerra OG-43 and hopefully an OG-44 or two. The OG-43 for its incredible novelty and the OG-44 for just how good it looks as like, a starwars gun, either in full stock or folding configuration.

  • @Francois15031967
    @Francois15031967 2 года назад +86

    "Moschetto" means "musket" and is pronounced something like "Moss-k-tow"

    • @loods2215
      @loods2215 2 года назад +3

      With a double t though, something that English native speakers always struggle to pronounce

    • @vsarge8762
      @vsarge8762 2 года назад

      Moss kee tow

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 года назад +4

      As I'm Italian I would pronounce it Mos-sKetto!

    • @vincenzo2737
      @vincenzo2737 2 года назад +1

      I think they can try to pronounce moss keth o.

  • @costantinoandruzzi2219
    @costantinoandruzzi2219 2 года назад +20

    The Germans favored this gem over the MP40 and got their hands on lots of MABs during the last year of WWII.

  • @Niinsa62
    @Niinsa62 2 года назад +5

    Out of battery discharges on a fixed firing pin SMG might be rare, but the guy next to me had one when we did national service a long time ago here in Sweden, with Kpist 45's. It might have had something to do with the empty round collector attached to the ejector port, that had a tendency to kick empty rounds back into the receiver. Without that peace-time environmental thingy attached, the gun was rock solid. But anyway, he had an out of battery discharge, which blew the mag well halfway off. I think the receiver was slightly bulged as well, the gun was a total write-off. He still had all fingers attached, but you don't really have any fingers close to that part of the gun, so no surprise there. Still, nice to see that Beretta thought of that, and took care of it, with a not-fixed firing pin!

  • @Viper2132
    @Viper2132 2 года назад +16

    "Do you really need bayonets on a submachine gun?"
    Imperial Japan: "YES!!"

    • @matteohetzy7599
      @matteohetzy7599 2 года назад

      or LMG like the type99
      I wonder if there has ever been a cannon with bayonet😂

  • @gasmonkey1000
    @gasmonkey1000 2 года назад +31

    @7:25
    Gun Jesus: "Do you really need a bayonet on a submachine gun?"
    IJA: "YES!"

  • @corvetteguy1980
    @corvetteguy1980 2 года назад +3

    I think the best smg of WW2 was the Thompson M1928A1. My great grandfather carried one in the Battle of Saipan. He carried that and a captured Arisoka carbine.

  • @amigi968
    @amigi968 2 года назад +4

    You could hear the smile when Ian said "And it ejects from the left!"

  • @ziomaxxx
    @ziomaxxx 2 года назад +9

    An another masterpiece made by Beretta.

  • @brandonblackfyre5783
    @brandonblackfyre5783 6 месяцев назад +1

    *The Beretta firearms are probably my most favorite firearm till this day... I believe I love Beretta's so much because I was born in 1994 & grew up watching awesome movies like "Lethal Weapon" & "Die Hard" that had Beretta's as their main hand guns for the bad & good guys alike... Plus at the time period I was growing up in, which was the late 1990s & early 2000s, most Law Enforcement Agencies & Departments were still using the famous Beretta 9mm Handguns before adopting the, at the time, brand new Glock 9mm... So always seeing the Beretta Handguns in awesome & timeless movies & TV Shows, along with real life Law Enforcement using the Beretta's, really gave me a love for the weapon. I've only heard great things about the classic Beretta Pistols, even the older Beretta's that were used in WWII, which were basically a small verison of the famous Beretta 93... When I was younger, even though I saw different Beretta SMGs, had no idea Beretta even produced & manufactured SMGs or any other firearm besides Pistols.*
    *Till this day in 2023, even with all the new modern pistols that have been invented & produced, the Beretta 93 still keeps up and even out classes some modern pistols... Over the years of being a HUGE firearm enthusiast, I have never heard any bad things about the Beretta Pistols & very rarely did you hear any bad things or criticisms about Beretta's SMGs... I need to look up & see if Beretta is still making any Sub-Machine Guns in todays times because I have not seen or heard of any new Beretta's being developed or invented... Especially since most Countries & Their Armies are using "Carbines" now instead of SMGs for their soldiers in the rear guard & the Armoured Vehicles Units because Carbines can shoot a intermediate rifle round like the 5.56x45 in the M4 Carbines, which is better than 9mm or .45 in most cases... Plus the size of the carbines give armoured vehicle units & rear echelon troops a lot more room for their supplies & other necessities... Nowadays we are seeing more SMGs that fire intermediate rounds like the 5.7mm ammunition that can be used in the P90 SMG & 5.7 Pistols, even though some call the P90 a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon)... With the ammunition like the 5.7mm being used in SMGs we are starting to see a resurgence of SMG manufacturing that are 5.7mm or another similar calibers.*

  • @emmedigi89
    @emmedigi89 2 года назад +2

    This was still in service in mid 1970s when my father was enlisted for his required military service period, it was his standard weapon. :D

  • @johnthomas-km2bf
    @johnthomas-km2bf 2 года назад +6

    Man, i want one so bad, but i have a feeling it is one of those "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" type of guns.

  • @Teenar99
    @Teenar99 2 года назад +13

    This gun was still used in the Italian army for decades after the end of WWII (at least for conscripts). My father used one to spray at his commanding officer in the '60s. Fun times.

  • @pathoulihan6206
    @pathoulihan6206 2 года назад +12

    My 9 year old nephews are going to be terribly disappointed in me this Christmas. Cool uncle status revoked 🙁

  • @justindunlap1235
    @justindunlap1235 2 года назад +12

    every little detail of that gun says it would be a pleasure to shoot. I can't wait to see the range video tomorrow.

  • @CeylonMondegreen
    @CeylonMondegreen 2 года назад +50

    Us Finns are gonna be none too happy if this Italo-bullet hose is going to be eclipsing the Suomi all of a sudden.

    • @bluebagger1262
      @bluebagger1262 2 года назад

      Give me an Owen SMG 9mm any day of the week.

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 2 года назад +1

      I’m sure next time Ian visits Helsinki you can take him into the woods and convince him 😊

    • @davidmorningstar
      @davidmorningstar 2 года назад +3

      The Suomi will have the faster rate of fire, but the Beretta will always have the pasta rate of fire.

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 2 года назад +1

      There is a reason if Beretta is the longest running weapons manifacturer on This Planet.

    • @jojomaster7675
      @jojomaster7675 2 года назад

      @@andrehashimoto8056 The Berreta is good, but it just seems inconvenient. The left side ejection post is a very bad idea for the military, as most people are right handed, and having hot casings get ejected on your arm can take a toll on your accuracy. Then you have the dual triggers, which are insanely annoying if you have big fingers, and then the complex machining which not only makes it expensive, but also a hell to fix if yomething goes wrong.
      Overall, a good gun, but I still think the Suomi is superior, as well as the PPD (and if you ignore the horrible magazines and often rushed and unskilled production, the PPSH).

  • @knightofastora1324
    @knightofastora1324 2 года назад +2

    Uncle: Gives 9 year old nephew a full auto submachine gun that was used in world war
    Nephew: "Mom, can you stop messing around and upgrade to uncle Jim already?"
    Mom: "I'm 9 years ahead of you, son."

  • @ooloncaluphid
    @ooloncaluphid 2 года назад +6

    I tend to think of the usual submachine gun, like a sten, as being slightly more mechanically complex than a flintlock. But that one bucks the trend.

  • @evanbaggins4885
    @evanbaggins4885 2 года назад +3

    An amazing SMG wielded by some very brave fighters indeed... Always so much wonderful knowledge to share, Ian! Thanks!

  • @tallerdumo
    @tallerdumo 2 года назад +1

    I like the close ups to the weapon. It is close to how you look a new gun for the first time, the shape and bright of all the components, patina and details.

  • @tommytwotacos8106
    @tommytwotacos8106 5 месяцев назад

    When I was a kid I had a friend who, like myself, spent a great deal of time reading books about historical guns that normally had large pictures of the guns alongside the descriptions and stories. He would refer to the elongated holes that we'd sometimes see on barrel shrouds as "speed holes" because it "made the gun look like it's going really fast". I don't know why I found it so funny at the time, but here I am 30 years later and I still call them speed holes on the rare occasion that I see them while smirking a little bit to myself.

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 2 года назад +8

    The Beretta Model 38/49 was also the standard SMG for West Germany's _Bundesgrenzschutz_ (Federal Border Guard) or BGS in the 1950s. Due to the poor state of post-war Germany's small arms industry, there were very few factories left that could resume production of the MP40. Rather than going through the expenses of rebuilding the domestic manufacturing infrastructure for the MP40, the West German government decided that it would be more convenient to purchase the Beretta Model 38/49 from Italy for the BGS.

    • @alaincharlesleroy87
      @alaincharlesleroy87 7 месяцев назад

      Some Madsen MP 50 were used by the new german army in 1954

    • @454FatJack
      @454FatJack 2 месяца назад

      DUX smg West Germany, Oviedo
      Willy Daugs ex owner Tikkakoski 🇫🇮 . Home Kp -31, Sudajev 9mm kp-44.
      Late 1944 Soviet took all German property 😢

  • @pompey333
    @pompey333 2 года назад +1

    I noticed you pronunciation if you ever see in italian two letters right next to each other pronounce as prodit-to for product as the double letter in italian follows stops at the first syllable and begins in the second syllable. Just so you know I really enjoy your informed and non politicized explanation of weapons from history. Thank you Ian!

  • @fruitbat4429
    @fruitbat4429 Год назад

    Cool video. Cool story attached to it. And I lovethe detail of the rear trigger being serrated for use in the dark.

  • @stefanosiclari
    @stefanosiclari 2 года назад +4

    Ian finally managed to pronounce an Italian name correctly, twice in a row.
    This is a glorious day

  • @0ktk
    @0ktk 2 года назад +8

    I’ve been waiting for this. YOU CAN’T JUST SHOOT A GUN AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT IAN.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 2 года назад +3

    Father told me and my brothers that when in Italy they got to shoot a couple of these. He basically said that you could rest the magazine on your left hand and fire it.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt 2 года назад +1

    Glad you talked about this smg, i think it's pretty neat

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel4323 2 года назад +4

    Something that could be VERY valuable to shooters and collectors, is knowing which firearms can handle which ammo. For example, there were 9mm ammo manufactured at significantly higher pressures, for use in submachine guns, which will ruin some pistols that can chamber that round. Especially some military surplus 9mm is hotter that +P+ ammo, because it was intended ONLY for use in SMG's.

  • @Tap02
    @Tap02 2 года назад +3

    My great cousins carried this at Stalingrad, they all never made it home. Their bodies are in a mass grave still at Rostov

  • @MrGarwest
    @MrGarwest 2 года назад +3

    Hello I an,
    Our father Captain A-R-West MC of the 4th Indian Division of the 8th Army in North Africa was issued with a Beretta Modello 1938.
    He mentioned it in his recently published war memoirs and thought it was one of the best sub machine guns too.
    Regards,
    G and L. A-R-West FHBSA

  • @swj719
    @swj719 2 года назад +140

    "what could be cooler or more American?"
    I will bet you money that GI was from Texas. 😂

    • @ironhead2008
      @ironhead2008 2 года назад

      Or West VA, or most of the south for that matter.

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 2 года назад

      Hard to believe in this day and age but things like that happened in CA also back then.
      My grandfather, who today would be diagnosed with severe PTSD had a lot of war trophies which were full auto..which would get taken by the cops for a few weeks and later returned when he'd go outside and fire off a few hundred rounds on full auto..in LA. He gave me several which were kept at his house so eventually they eventually permanently disappeared. I was about 5 when he gave them to me.

  • @edm240b9
    @edm240b9 2 года назад +2

    Really need to get my hands on one of these again. Such a fun shooting SMG and really is the best subgun of WWII IMO.

  • @cristianoboschetti3882
    @cristianoboschetti3882 2 года назад

    Thank you Ian for all your awesome videos.....

  • @Verdha603
    @Verdha603 2 года назад +1

    Two long years later, and we finally have Ian post a sit down video of the Beretta Model 38 after the shooting video for it came out (and that’s not including the two WAY older videos of him shooting the Model 38/42 and 38/44).

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 2 года назад +1

    2 part field strip, brilliant! A very clever design indeed.

  • @martinrps13
    @martinrps13 2 года назад +3

    10:43 the smaller screws are not supposed to be notched. They are supposed to be fully round and the larger one gets notched. That was a method of keeping the larger screws tight. Someone working on this gun must not have been aware of that.

  • @btl5008
    @btl5008 2 года назад +1

    One of the most fantastic subguns out there. Such a joy to shoot

  • @federicotirelli6841
    @federicotirelli6841 2 года назад

    I was waiting so much for this finally!

  • @edgydio4127
    @edgydio4127 2 года назад +2

    I have a dug up nonfunctional torso of the Beretta M38/44 found near Banska Bystrica that was used by Germans during Slovak national uprising. One of my rarest items in ww2 collection

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS4 2 года назад

    Thank you for this nice video, I wish we could have seen more of the firing group though :)

  • @agustinperretta1043
    @agustinperretta1043 2 года назад

    Excellent video, what a wonderful piece of engineering

  • @Cluster-orchestrator
    @Cluster-orchestrator 2 года назад

    Great video once again.

  • @brandonblackfyre5783
    @brandonblackfyre5783 6 месяцев назад +1

    *My love for Beretta's firearms will never end. Beretta makes some of the best firearms in the world, especially their Pistols like the famous Beretta 93... I'm curious to know how many Beretta's were sold AFTER the movies "Lethal Weapon" & "Die Hard" came out because they showed the Beretta 93 in a awesome way that made people love the gun, especially if you were born in the 90s like me and grew up on those movies & seeing real life Law Enforcement using Beretta's before they transferred over to the Glock 9mm... Plus if you love firearms & video games, like I myself do, then Max Payne is another big reason why people fell in love with the Beretta 93's. Even in nowadays the Beretta still out performs other 9mm pistols, actually all pistols.*

  • @NoThankYouReally
    @NoThankYouReally 2 года назад +1

    "when you pull the bolt on an M98, it tends to flex down, so just be aware of that."
    Me who will never see one in person, let alone handle one, let alone disassemble one: "'Good to know. I'll make a note."

  • @TheBucketSkill
    @TheBucketSkill 2 года назад +5

    This question has been my obsession for a while now, "what was the best smg of ww2?"

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 2 года назад +1

      It’s been a point of debate for decades and always will be as is the case with every category of weapon whether a bow and arrow or a nuke.
      Makes it all more fun 😊

    • @thankstodd2794
      @thankstodd2794 2 года назад

      PPS is. Period

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 2 года назад

    Great work Sir thank you

  • @jm9371
    @jm9371 2 года назад +1

    Fascinating, the bolt is a hardcore 3D puzzle to disassemble. Very unlike a normal open bolt SMG design.

  • @JimCOsd55
    @JimCOsd55 2 года назад +1

    Back in the 60’s, my dad and all his friends were WW ll vets which just seemed normal growing up. Some had M1 Garands, M1 carbines, Mausers, Arisakas, Lugers and one of his buddy’s had a Beretta M38 so when we went over to his house ... we wanted to see a real machine gun!

  • @shanepowers7566
    @shanepowers7566 2 года назад

    I liked that sights lined up shot.

  • @amphibious3381
    @amphibious3381 2 года назад +1

    Even if you’ve never heard or seen this SMG before, you take one look at it and you can tell it just shoots real smooth

  • @thiagokawano1618
    @thiagokawano1618 2 года назад +1

    I don't know why, but I have something for those old-timey SMGs and automatic rifles. You can call me a fudd, but we can all agree that those weapons look very cool.

  • @burgerlord1297
    @burgerlord1297 2 года назад

    Like always good info

  • @TerryDowne
    @TerryDowne 2 года назад +10

    British troops also liked the M38A and used it whenever they could get hold of it. There is even a story that Britain tried to order some from Beretta prior to Italy's entry into WWII.

  • @chuckebbs7541
    @chuckebbs7541 2 года назад

    really enjoyed this video

  • @k31owner46
    @k31owner46 2 года назад +1

    Got to shoot one of these at Big Sandy. Absolutely love it. Probably the smoothest SMG I have ever held. Gotta get one once I figure out how to afford it.

  • @josearellano5778
    @josearellano5778 2 года назад +1

    An absolute work of art this SMG is so beautiful‼️😍😍😍

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 2 года назад

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @obiwankenobi2749
    @obiwankenobi2749 2 года назад +1

    A good extra level of safety would be to make the trigger be what enables the firing pin to be pushed. Like a revolver, if the bolt comes forward, and the trigger is not held, it will chamber a round, but there would be no metal block to actuate the firing pin.

  • @kaylt.7864
    @kaylt.7864 2 года назад +1

    18:30 brings a tear to my eye 🥲

  • @andreinarangel6227
    @andreinarangel6227 2 года назад

    There was a guy in the Tampa Bay area that had a pair of them that his father had brought back from the War while he was a bomber mechanic in the Foggia airfields of Italy. Sweet shooters.

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a 2 года назад +12

    Assuming you don't include the Swedish m/45, it is the best shooting SMG of WW2. The magazine design is still in use in the Beretta 12S, another get SMG.

    • @menamen7178
      @menamen7178 2 года назад +4

      WHAT THE... 3 WEEK AGO!?!?!?!

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk 2 года назад

      @@menamen7178 Patreon supporters get early access.

    • @menamen7178
      @menamen7178 2 года назад

      @@c1ph3rpunk thanks I didn't know that.

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT 2 года назад +4

    Boy this M38A looks pristine, aside of minor wear where the bolt smacks the stock and other similar places. I wonder how much this piece will bring at auction

    • @Anino_Makata
      @Anino_Makata 2 года назад +2

      Considering the lineage of the piece alongside it's condition, I'm guessing she's gonna go for a five to six figure tag.

    • @salty_armorer4027
      @salty_armorer4027 2 года назад +3

      The seller ought to be able to buy a whole gallon and a half of gas with the proceeds.

    • @Pimpdaddy_payne
      @Pimpdaddy_payne 2 года назад

      @@salty_armorer4027 I think a gallon and a half is a bit generous. Try half a gallon

  • @DFloyd84
    @DFloyd84 2 года назад

    For a Forgotten Weapons gag reel, you could go back to the bolt disassembly and when you manipulate the lug to unlock the pin, you instead get a lightsabre blade.

  • @AM-hf9kk
    @AM-hf9kk 2 года назад +6

    That disassembly lug on the bolt makes it look far too much like a Lightsaber.

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal 2 года назад

      "an elegant weapon for a more civilized age"
      Yeah, not so much for the 1930s and 1940s.

  • @Jack72607
    @Jack72607 2 года назад +16

    Always heard older Italian gentlemen hating on the Mab-38 and the risk of slam fire (almost surely talking about the later simplified models and not the fancy ww2 mab38a , having served in the military in the 50s and 60s). Did they go with a fixed firing pin with the later models or is it just some Fuddlore?

    • @Jack72607
      @Jack72607 2 года назад +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Ian said the later models are way less smooth and operate much more like a run of the mill open bolt blowback 9mm smg. My own grandad was trained back in 50s on the 7,62Nato beretta garands (not bm59s), m1 carbines and mab38s and despised the mabs for lack of accuracy and safety. He really really dug the m1 carbines for the light weight and short lenght and respected the garand’s range and accuracy. Back in ww2 having a guy with an smg and full auto fire was much more of a force multiplier because almost everyone else was running bolt actions

    • @Jack72607
      @Jack72607 2 года назад +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine And yes, All the guys I talked to used their weapons in training only. I know a few guys who served in Somalia and Kossovo but I doubt they were still running mab38s (at least I hope so. My dad had his basic training on garands and mg42s in the 80s)

  • @TheGorillafoot
    @TheGorillafoot 2 года назад

    Great video!