Hi Ian: a Canadian modification that FN adopted for all production was teflon coated tubes for the folding stock. This was due to one of my soldiers (I was an officer on the Canadian winter trials) lost part of his nose when it froze to the metal tube while firing prone at -40°C. When he pulled the rifle away from his face, part of his nose remained stuck to the stock! FN immediately supplied teflon coated folding stocks and he had a top plastic surgeon repair his nose.
So you were an officee in the trials. I watched the video on the FN vs M16 trials made by the canadian army. It mentions a catastrophic malfunction during an intense firing session with the rifle. This appears to be one of the main reasons why the rifle was rejected.Any idea what that was? We tested it in Luxembourg in the 90s to replace the Fals and we also had a catastrophic malfunction. What happened was, the welds linking the bolt carrier and op rod split and the op rod was ejected through the ejection port past a sergeants face with full speed. We got the Steyr Aug then.
The only differences I can see are the color, the safety (the AK5 is just S/1/A), the material and style of the grips and bolt handle (the AK5 uses polymer for all three),and that the AK5 doesn't have any rifle grenade gas cutoff or sight. I think the firing pin is also retained differently, but it's been over a decade since I last had to disassemble an AK5, so I might just be remembering that wrong.
@@alltat I carried the AK5B. Same as the original, but with the iron sights cut off and a scope mount for the SUSAT sight welded on instead. It also had a cheek piece. It was not very well balanced and a bit on the heavy side. The SUSAT also had a problem with losing its zero after a while.
@@alltat I believe the Indonesian Pindad SS1 is pretty similar with the AK 5 with the exception of bayonet lug. Both Sweden and Indonesia ditch the rifle grenade features as they are already using the M203 grenade launcher, instead, they have mountings for the M203, much like the M16 and M4 barrels.
@@takingbacktoxic7898 Did actually forget the BHP, truly modern service pistol minus the polymer and what most nowadays are based on. FN just keep hitting it out of the park.
This gave me flashbacks. The Swedish version, the AK5, was my service rifle during my National Service in the Army. Just seeing Ian dissmantle the FNC made me remember all the drills we had in dissmantling and cleaning it. I also remember a bloke from my neighbouring platoon who lost his charging handle during the timed blindfolded test and was pretty much usless during the rest of the exercise because of it. And yes, he did get a good yelling from the Lts because of it. What I do remember most though is that is was quite heavy to run around with in the begining and that it constantly got caught in the cammo webbings for our tents. The last cleaning I did of it I blew out cobwebs from the barrel due to not having fired it for 2 months, having a red cross on your arm tends to do those things.
We want to hurt no one! We're here for the bank's money, not your money. Your money is insured by the federal government, you're not gonna lose a dime! Think of your families, don't risk your life.
Will never happen with EU in place. The only two sources would be Sweden and Belgium and there’s zero chance their governments would allow their retired weapons to be exported or sold to civilians.
@@steven-k. Best luck would be in black market of stolen weapon during Aceh crisis or from Philippines rebels. Afaik Pindad never sell ss1 to civilian market.
You mean DSA? The main problem is that the FNC is a very different gun than the FAL. Or maybe someone could make an FN-C upper for the AR-15, similar to what Brownells did with the AR-18 uppers.
@@schrodingersgat4344 the swiss use the sig sg 550, which although they are somewhat similar in that they are each based on the kalashnikov action, the 550 is a considerably nicer and more expensive rifle. the swiss historically have always used extremely well made rifles for their infantry.
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 Almost like it had a decade of development after the introduction of the FN design... That's pointing at a seed and saying "it is not an Oak." The STG 90 is not all that different. I have a Timex. Would I rather have a Rolex? Yes. Still just a watch. Look at the Finnish RK 62. That was evolved into the Galil* The Galil ACE has a great deal of similarity with the Swedish AK-5 variant of the FNC. All of these programs take elements from others. * Parallel developments can be made to cross. If one manufacturer likes what another is doing...they can work together...or what have you.
The gas cylinder is removed by pushing it back (spring resistance), if you want to compelete the disassembly. Nice to see the original! I'm only used to the swedish version.
I knew a guy who've fired both the original FNC and Pindad-made Indonesian variant. He said compared to the original, the Indonesian variant kicks back slightly harder and ejects the cases a bit more aggressively. I assume that Pindad overgassed their FNC variants to increase it's reliability in Indonesia's often humid and muddy terrains, and hence its harder recoil and ejection pattern.
Fun trivia about the AK5. I was in one of the first missions to use the AK5C in active service in Kosovo. At that time the "new" picatinny rail was mounted so that you could not change the gas setting. I believe that is why we had quite a lot of jamming during our exercises. As we were stuck with the gas setting that was chosen. After my tour and next time I used it, we didn't have those problems, so I think our reports about the problem helped. Not sure if the rail is still obstructing the gas setting. And the first revision of plastic mags were terrible... The lips broke all the time. EDIT: After some image googling, it's still obstructing.
@@Pavia1525 Good Luck getting enough Stormverks mounts for the single largest owner of FNC's on the planet, remember we're not talking about a couple of hundred needed here, we're talking a quarter of a million of them. Of course the Swedish Army isn't going to change to a third party picatinny rail just to get a function they deemed not actually necessary back, it's not like there wasn't rails short enough to not cover the gas adjustment back when we adopted the AK5c version, there were, we just didn't want them.
Pindad in Indonesia build a LOT of these under licence, to replace their aging BM-59 clone variants across the Indonesian armed forces.. They also made, and offered in their export catalogue, semi-auto versions in both 5.56 x 45 (for potential export) and the unusual 7.62 x 45, Not the 1952 Czech round, but basically a 5.56 based proprietary" wildcat. These were apparently made for game-keepers and forest service rangers. Indonesian FNCs have chrome-lined, hammer-forged barrels.
I know it may never happen. But I want to see Ian take apart and shoot the Swedish Bofors AK5C which is based on the FNC. It's so iconic to the Swedish Army
The trick with the foregrip clip is to hold the receiver inverted facing away from you, fingers gripping the front sight (on the underside) and push both sides of the clip forward at the same time with the thumbs. Nice and easy, and no tools. :)
15:16 The FNC seems to mechanically be almost identical to the Swedish AK5 A and B versions, so that would mean that you can also remove the gas-tube by pulling it back slightly and lifting the front end off the gas block.
If you're ever in eastern N.C., you should stop by, I've got a couple of rather interesting rifles you'd enjoy seeing. I've built a couple "tube guns, using AR parts and my own gas system in an aluminum square tube for a "receiver". Semi-auto only of course. Steel front trunion, AR barrel and mags, billet lower.
Al Pacino in Heat used this firearm. Strange that LAPD would have one but that's Hollywood for you. This along with AR-18 & Mini-14 just has that 70's & 80's nostalgic iconic look and feel to them. They could either be the good guys or bad guys weapon.
Hello Ian, the gas regulating tube at the front gets removed also. It's been 2 decades but if I'm not mistaken you have to rotate it and pull it back. The notch at the front of the tube is so you can swipe it sideways and remove it. In the Belgian Army we weren't allowed to use the auto-fire selection on the FNC. Automatic fire on the section level was assured by 2 minimi's and a MAG. Great channel and likewise content by the way. Have fun shooting her!
I had one, a fixed stock. I do not remember it having as many features on the barrel end and I also did not remember how I took off the handguards. What I do remember is the barrel did not lift as high on recoil enabling me to reacquire my target sooner than on the M 16 A1. An opportunity to trade it for a Match M1A occurred and I took it. I do miss that gem.
FN made the best non AR folding buttstock,wish i had one when i was issued my L1A1 in 86 in the NZ Army at Waiouru Training Depot during a bad winter on the Icy Central Plateau .Al Pacino had an FNC in the movie Heat
Belgian military armorer here, these guns are just great and i love working on them! Sadly they're getting too old and replaced by the SCAR-L. Did my basic training with an FNC and it never stopped on me, even with 100's of rounds through them in extremely muddy environments. Hoping to get my hands on a civilian version but prices in Belgium go up to 10k for these...
Looking at the bolt carrier i can see this is a sporter carrier that they welded extra material to make a sear notch, certainly not an original full carrier
Man, would I love a modern remake of the FNC. If Brownells wants to do another refresh like with their 180, I would certainly think about purchasing one.
we here in sweden also got rid of the gas adjustment it is always set to adverse and I have no clue if it is a myth or reality but I heard that the green paint we have on the guns are for the cold but it sounds far fetched. Also yes all of the AK5 guns are green.
This gun looks had a similarities with the Italian AR-70 or the Swedish AK-5, however i know that Swedish Army still used the AK5 or either they replaced it, though it's their primary rifle at that time, but this gun on this video looks also had a similarities with the Para stock and the early variant of the 7.62 FAL Handguard but it's only designed at wooden variation
I can't help but notice they didn't even try to make a good looking gun. Those weld spots man... my ocd! Still, for innovative functionality, it's designed for a purpose. This one can do with a little tlc though... Thank you for the lesson sir.
God I love this gun it's just a beautiful design and also really reliable, I used it in my basic training in the Belgian military. It was really precise and easy to clean except for the gas port which was a pain in the ass.
Still fascinated by how they didn't just scale down the FAL in the first place. You would have thought, in the late 1960s, that they would have wanted to have one of the selling points for a 5.56mm FN service weapon be that it was a known and reliable system in wide military service, so no major retraining would be required while being lighter and all that good stuff. The strange world of arms development...
I like to tell the fact that Indonesian SS-1/ (FNC) has a manual bolt hold open, located under the tilting dust cover by pulling the charging handle out.
I have one on those fnc rifles in semi auto only, And they are very good rifles, i changed the original firing pin to a titanium firing pin because i heard some where that they tend to break, i don’t know if its really truth or not but i didn’t want to get the original firing-pin broken if im going yo be shooting it, they are pretty expensive though
I came across a massive collection of guns at my favorite (and sadly passed away this year) gun-dealer. He had 2 or 3 of these FNCs and asked if I wanted any. I wasnt terribly interested.... He then asksd if $800 a rifle was a decent offer for me to take one home. At the time I was pretty dirt poor, and I could only buy one gun out of this massive collection he acquired.... I took home a Spas 15.... I was happy with my purchase, but I still kick myself for not just maxing out my credit to buy everything I could.
I just watched the video of a US Marine who participated in Ukraine's Foreign Legion in the first few months of the war. His group were given FNC's and they were disappointed by how much they jammed irregardless of consistent liberal cleaning. They were jamming in the very first fire fight.
SS109/M855 is still a better round than the original M193. Which is pretty damning given the problems the M855 encountered in stopping determined aggressors 😬
Better is very subjective. M193 has good terminal performance at high velocity (i.e. short range) while SS109 is much better at barrier penetration (at all ranges) but trades off some terminal performance against non-protected targets, which its worst performance being around the 100m mark (due to bullet stabilisation). At longer ranges the SS109 pulls a lead on the M193 in terminal performance as the M193 will fail to fragment at those velocities (anything under 800 m/s), while the SS109 will tumble earlier due to its increased length and lower density.
The overhung captive recoil spring makes me wonder why non-folding designs are still relevant. Although one thing, if there is a lever for grenade cutoff and space to swivel much further why not delete the elaborate adverse tube and use the grenade cutoff instead?
@@andrewsuryali8540 I meant swivel the lever right past the cutoff (grenade) position to a position even further forward, facing ahead. Only going to be using adverse in non grenade situations and occasionally, no problem having the lever swinging out there for that.
It seems regardless of the weapon FN sits in that sweet spot of practical but innovative, not reliant on kraut space magic like HK, not designed to operated by an Ivan with a hammer like russian stuff and not beholden to the Army Ordnance Dept like US gear, just a sensible balance of everything.
I wonder if the sporting versions were export only. Being Belgian, I own a FAL and a SAFN and I've encountered both of them many times at gun ranges and stores but I've never encountered a FNC that wasn't being carried by a soldier.
The minimi in sweden(KSP90) also accept mags from the AK5(regular STANAG). But the Americans discarded that ability. I see why, because I never seen anyone use that ability in my service.
@@PlaceholderforBjorn I remember hearing that that functionality was for the 20 round stanags or something like that, so the gun was in a more portable state but still loaded and for the fact that anyone could toss a mag to the mg crew incase of russian invasion numbers. Ofc, neither of those situations are likely to arise in modern combat.
I have never owned a firearm, but from all the videos of guns I've watched, I've come to the conclusion that captive pins are an inherently good idea. I feel similarly about automatic empty magazine bolt hold-open.
Indonesian here. So I've heard from former service man that early production SS-1 (our domestic version of the FNC) is rather sucks because the firing pin often broke. They prefer the original Belgian made FNC or the M16. Anyway Pindad would create more variants of the FNC/SS-1 like SS-1 M series for Indonesian Marine Corps, SS-1 R5 a 10.5 inch carbine for CQB, SBC-1 a semi automatic version of SS-1 R5 for Indonesian Customs Agency and probably the weirdest or I should say unique one is Pindad Sabhara series for police use. The Sabhara rifles were chambered in 7.62x45mm. Basically a 5.56 cartridge necked up to 7.62.
Oddly enough, I was told in swedish service that the first belgian made rifles often had their firing pins break, something that was fixed with the swedish made rifles.
FNC or SS1 was best described as Pindad modernization which direly required after spent decades producing licensed Beretta BM-59.. really a major leap from 1950s tech.. of course, flaws and faults automagically coming with it.. takes quite sometime before all the quirks, crooks and cranny of modern rifle production line were worked out and mastered..
And as Ian starts talking about going to the range and full auto, I frantically search the screen for the like button, only to find it already activated. Tomorrow, I tell myself, tomorrow...
Hi Ian: a Canadian modification that FN adopted for all production was teflon coated tubes for the folding stock. This was due to one of my soldiers (I was an officer on the Canadian winter trials) lost part of his nose when it froze to the metal tube while firing prone at -40°C. When he pulled the rifle away from his face, part of his nose remained stuck to the stock! FN immediately supplied teflon coated folding stocks and he had a top plastic surgeon repair his nose.
Thats pretty wild. Did it bleed or did the cold kind of cauterize it?
Did he pull it away quickly?
Damn, that would suck 😂
Adding forever chemicals instead of just add a wooden part. What a joke.
So you were an officee in the trials. I watched the video on the FN vs M16 trials made by the canadian army. It mentions a catastrophic malfunction during an intense firing session with the rifle. This appears to be one of the main reasons why the rifle was rejected.Any idea what that was? We tested it in Luxembourg in the 90s to replace the Fals and we also had a catastrophic malfunction. What happened was, the welds linking the bolt carrier and op rod split and the op rod was ejected through the ejection port past a sergeants face with full speed. We got the Steyr Aug then.
Would be cool if Ian could get his hands on a AK5 to a comparison.
The only differences I can see are the color, the safety (the AK5 is just S/1/A), the material and style of the grips and bolt handle (the AK5 uses polymer for all three),and that the AK5 doesn't have any rifle grenade gas cutoff or sight. I think the firing pin is also retained differently, but it's been over a decade since I last had to disassemble an AK5, so I might just be remembering that wrong.
A more interesting comparison would be fnc vs ak5c. Ak5c being the pinacle of this specific pattern of rifle.
@@alltat I carried the AK5B. Same as the original, but with the iron sights cut off and a scope mount for the SUSAT sight welded on instead. It also had a cheek piece. It was not very well balanced and a bit on the heavy side. The SUSAT also had a problem with losing its zero after a while.
@@alltat I believe the Indonesian Pindad SS1 is pretty similar with the AK 5 with the exception of bayonet lug.
Both Sweden and Indonesia ditch the rifle grenade features as they are already using the M203 grenade launcher, instead, they have mountings for the M203, much like the M16 and M4 barrels.
@@alltat trigger gaurd/winter trigger too.
Fal - FN
Mag - FN
Minimi - FN
M2 HMG - Browning/FN
Current issue M4s - FN
H&K goes to bed and checks under it for FN every night.
Dont forget the Browning Hi Power. Talk about being way ahead in 1935.
@@takingbacktoxic7898 Did actually forget the BHP, truly modern service pistol minus the polymer and what most nowadays are based on.
FN just keep hitting it out of the park.
Can't forget the SCAR L & H and P90, also the Five Seven Pistol, etc...
@@ballincollin908 Those arnt exactly game changers.
@@takingbacktoxic7898 still quality firearms popularized by media.
This gave me flashbacks. The Swedish version, the AK5, was my service rifle during my National Service in the Army. Just seeing Ian dissmantle the FNC made me remember all the drills we had in dissmantling and cleaning it.
I also remember a bloke from my neighbouring platoon who lost his charging handle during the timed blindfolded test and was pretty much usless during the rest of the exercise because of it. And yes, he did get a good yelling from the Lts because of it.
What I do remember most though is that is was quite heavy to run around with in the begining and that it constantly got caught in the cammo webbings for our tents.
The last cleaning I did of it I blew out cobwebs from the barrel due to not having fired it for 2 months, having a red cross on your arm tends to do those things.
We want to hurt no one! We're here for the bank's money, not your money. Your money is insured by the federal government, you're not gonna lose a dime! Think of your families, don't risk your life.
Heat is always going to be gold!
HEAT!
"CAUSE SHE GOT A GREAT ASS!!" God i love Heat...
You can get killed walking your DOGGIE!
Don’t get attached to anything you can’t walk out in 30 seconds flat, if, you feel the heat coming round the corner….
It’s a shame we don’t have FNC parts kits in the US, I bet an FNC lower would be easy to make, and then we could have some more FNCs on the market.
Will never happen with EU in place. The only two sources would be Sweden and Belgium and there’s zero chance their governments would allow their retired weapons to be exported or sold to civilians.
Brazillian IMBEL produces FALs and variations. America needs more America.
You dont have to make the lower, the upper is the serialized part
@@Pavia1525 Indonesia.
@@steven-k. Best luck would be in black market of stolen weapon during Aceh crisis or from Philippines rebels. Afaik Pindad never sell ss1 to civilian market.
The guys that make FALs here in the states need to make a run of these.
You mean DSA? The main problem is that the FNC is a very different gun than the FAL. Or maybe someone could make an FN-C upper for the AR-15, similar to what Brownells did with the AR-18 uppers.
I'm not going to lie, HEAT and Garand Thumb made me love this gun and i put it as one of my dream guns now.
I would like to see that gas cutoff on more guns for suppressed use. "One-shot burst" 😆 I did not realize that this is what Sweden's AK5 was.
Pretty sure the Swiss liked this design as well.
This is your weapon, that is your gun.
@@schrodingersgat4344 the swiss use the sig sg 550, which although they are somewhat similar in that they are each based on the kalashnikov action, the 550 is a considerably nicer and more expensive rifle. the swiss historically have always used extremely well made rifles for their infantry.
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 Almost like it had a decade of development after the introduction of the FN design...
That's pointing at a seed and saying "it is not an Oak."
The STG 90 is not all that different.
I have a Timex. Would I rather have a Rolex? Yes. Still just a watch.
Look at the Finnish RK 62.
That was evolved into the Galil*
The Galil ACE has a great deal of similarity with the Swedish AK-5 variant of the FNC. All of these programs take elements from others.
* Parallel developments can be made to cross. If one manufacturer likes what another is doing...they can work together...or what have you.
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 Like saying that the SAFN borrowed nothing from the SVT.
The gas cylinder is removed by pushing it back (spring resistance), if you want to compelete the disassembly. Nice to see the original! I'm only used to the swedish version.
I was thinking the same :) I saw him looking for it.
The swedish AK5C implemented a bold holdopen, realy nice gun.
Very interesting and iconic rifle often overlooked in popular culture, with the obvious exception of Heat
Ah, I remember seeing this name whenever I used to search "Top ten rifles" back in 2012
I knew a guy who've fired both the original FNC and Pindad-made Indonesian variant. He said compared to the original, the Indonesian variant kicks back slightly harder and ejects the cases a bit more aggressively. I assume that Pindad overgassed their FNC variants to increase it's reliability in Indonesia's often humid and muddy terrains, and hence its harder recoil and ejection pattern.
Okay after years of watching Ian I have to say it, My favorite line of dialogue from him in every video is "it's worth pointing out".
Fun trivia about the AK5.
I was in one of the first missions to use the AK5C in active service in Kosovo.
At that time the "new" picatinny rail was mounted so that you could not change the gas setting.
I believe that is why we had quite a lot of jamming during our exercises. As we were stuck with the gas setting that was chosen.
After my tour and next time I used it, we didn't have those problems, so I think our reports about the problem helped.
Not sure if the rail is still obstructing the gas setting.
And the first revision of plastic mags were terrible... The lips broke all the time.
EDIT:
After some image googling, it's still obstructing.
I suppose they made some adjustments to the one gas setting.
Classic military style lmao
There are other Picatinny mounts available now that don’t obstruct. Stormwerks I think makes one.
Seems to match my experience. AK5A jammed when firing blanks on gas setting one. Never had an issue with live ammunition.
@@Pavia1525 Good Luck getting enough Stormverks mounts for the single largest owner of FNC's on the planet, remember we're not talking about a couple of hundred needed here, we're talking a quarter of a million of them. Of course the Swedish Army isn't going to change to a third party picatinny rail just to get a function they deemed not actually necessary back, it's not like there wasn't rails short enough to not cover the gas adjustment back when we adopted the AK5c version, there were, we just didn't want them.
Pindad in Indonesia build a LOT of these under licence, to replace their aging BM-59 clone variants across the Indonesian armed forces..
They also made, and offered in their export catalogue, semi-auto versions in both 5.56 x 45 (for potential export) and the unusual 7.62 x 45, Not the 1952 Czech round, but basically a 5.56 based proprietary" wildcat. These were apparently made for game-keepers and forest service rangers. Indonesian FNCs have chrome-lined, hammer-forged barrels.
I know it may never happen. But I want to see Ian take apart and shoot the Swedish Bofors AK5C which is based on the FNC. It's so iconic to the Swedish Army
The trick with the foregrip clip is to hold the receiver inverted facing away from you, fingers gripping the front sight (on the underside) and push both sides of the clip forward at the same time with the thumbs. Nice and easy, and no tools. :)
ian its my birthday today and this is the perfect birthday gift thanks buddy love the channel keep it up
That spring-loaded dust cover is one of my favorite features on any gun. Seeing that thing work in slowmo is pretty hypnotizing.
15:16 The FNC seems to mechanically be almost identical to the Swedish AK5 A and B versions, so that would mean that you can also remove the gas-tube by pulling it back slightly and lifting the front end off the gas block.
Yes. You can also retract the bolt, pull on the charging knob into a slot, and hold the bolt open.
If you're ever in eastern N.C., you should stop by, I've got a couple of rather interesting rifles you'd enjoy seeing. I've built a couple "tube guns, using AR parts and my own gas system in an aluminum square tube for a "receiver". Semi-auto only of course. Steel front trunion, AR barrel and mags, billet lower.
Al Pacino in Heat used this firearm. Strange that LAPD would have one but that's Hollywood for you. This along with AR-18 & Mini-14 just has that 70's & 80's nostalgic iconic look and feel to them. They could either be the good guys or bad guys weapon.
The oh in "loose" is shorter than the oh in "lose". Which is apt regarding lost firing pins.
Hello Ian, the gas regulating tube at the front gets removed also. It's been 2 decades but if I'm not mistaken you have to rotate it and pull it back. The notch at the front of the tube is so you can swipe it sideways and remove it.
In the Belgian Army we weren't allowed to use the auto-fire selection on the FNC. Automatic fire on the section level was assured by 2 minimi's and a MAG.
Great channel and likewise content by the way. Have fun shooting her!
I like how the small vital parts are captive or retained in some way
I remember seeing a select fire FNC on gunbroker going for less than an M-16. But that was a few years ago when guns/ammo were plentiful.
It's not who you are that holds you back, it's who you think you're not.
Fleming did the conversions gun south was an additional import stamps!some semis had 2 importers on the same gun
Happy that this will be featured on the range! I'm really looking forward to seeing that dust cover during full auto in slow motion.
I had one, a fixed stock. I do not remember it having as many features on the barrel end and I also did not remember how I took off the handguards. What I do remember is the barrel did not lift as high on recoil enabling me to reacquire my target sooner than on the M 16 A1.
An opportunity to trade it for a Match M1A occurred and I took it. I do miss that gem.
The better question isn't "why apologize?", but "why is this gun so filthy to begin with?"
This one was a long time coming.
It reminds me of the FN Minnie AKA the original M-249 on many parts starting with the stock the the sliding cover on action slot.
Al Pacino used this rifle well in Heat.
Pretty awesome film, even to this day.
Ian, your Francias pronunciation is definitely getting better!
I like this rifle. Especially the different firing modes as needed.
FN made the best non AR folding buttstock,wish i had one when i was issued my L1A1 in 86 in the NZ Army at Waiouru Training Depot during a bad winter on the Icy Central Plateau .Al Pacino had an FNC in the movie Heat
Belgian military armorer here, these guns are just great and i love working on them! Sadly they're getting too old and replaced by the SCAR-L. Did my basic training with an FNC and it never stopped on me, even with 100's of rounds through them in extremely muddy environments. Hoping to get my hands on a civilian version but prices in Belgium go up to 10k for these...
Looking at the bolt carrier i can see this is a sporter carrier that they welded extra material to make a sear notch, certainly not an original full carrier
That little bit of area the dust cover doesn't actually cover is triggering my OCD.
Man, would I love a modern remake of the FNC.
If Brownells wants to do another refresh like with their 180, I would certainly think about purchasing one.
we here in sweden also got rid of the gas adjustment it is always set to adverse and I have no clue if it is a myth or reality but I heard that the green paint we have on the guns are for the cold but it sounds far fetched. Also yes all of the AK5 guns are green.
here's to hoping we get some affordable models of these on the civilian market
But the stories are what I'm here for! You have to do another video explaining it now
Shot one of these on burst, dope gun indeed. Plus it was in metal gear solid 5 as like the main rifle for your makeshift army
This gun looks had a similarities with the Italian AR-70 or the Swedish AK-5, however i know that Swedish Army still used the AK5 or either they replaced it, though it's their primary rifle at that time, but this gun on this video looks also had a similarities with the Para stock and the early variant of the 7.62 FAL Handguard but it's only designed at wooden variation
The AK-5 is a licensed & modified FNC, so yeah...
The FN FNC is awesome rifle DSA if your seeing this please make these I’ll preorder
*Shikikan hurry up and give me some desserts! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme~!*
Am I the only one impressed by how long it took to Ian to review with this quality a FNC?
FNC my beloved
Also remarkably accurate at 300yards with those original sights!
I can't help but notice they didn't even try to make a good looking gun. Those weld spots man... my ocd!
Still, for innovative functionality, it's designed for a purpose.
This one can do with a little tlc though...
Thank you for the lesson sir.
If your Charging Handle “Reciprocates”, isn’t it because it’s actually an Operating Rod Handle?
Dated because it was not modular, but beautiful rifle. Imagine it in 6.8? Tasty.
God I love this gun it's just a beautiful design and also really reliable, I used it in my basic training in the Belgian military. It was really precise and easy to clean except for the gas port which was a pain in the ass.
Yeah, and I had troubles with the buildup there the receiver meets the barrel.
I hope Ian could get hands on a Pindad SS-1 Rifle and compare to FN FNC
Still fascinated by how they didn't just scale down the FAL in the first place. You would have thought, in the late 1960s, that they would have wanted to have one of the selling points for a 5.56mm FN service weapon be that it was a known and reliable system in wide military service, so no major retraining would be required while being lighter and all that good stuff. The strange world of arms development...
I like to tell the fact that Indonesian SS-1/ (FNC) has a manual bolt hold open, located under the tilting dust cover by pulling the charging handle out.
I have one on those fnc rifles in semi auto only, And they are very good rifles, i changed the original firing pin to a titanium firing pin because i heard some where that they tend to break, i don’t know if its really truth or not but i didn’t want to get the original firing-pin broken if im going yo be shooting it, they are pretty expensive though
I came across a massive collection of guns at my favorite (and sadly passed away this year) gun-dealer. He had 2 or 3 of these FNCs and asked if I wanted any. I wasnt terribly interested.... He then asksd if $800 a rifle was a decent offer for me to take one home.
At the time I was pretty dirt poor, and I could only buy one gun out of this massive collection he acquired.... I took home a Spas 15.... I was happy with my purchase, but I still kick myself for not just maxing out my credit to buy everything I could.
i've always wanted one since i saw heat
As someone who used the AK5 in the Swedish army I wish I could have brought it home with me.
I love these two-part episodes.
Al Pacino used one in the movie Heat.
YES this is one of my favorite guns!
“4 position selector, everything from full auto, 3 round burst, semiauto(one round burst), and safe”
Is that the gun from Heat?
it is
Im on a gun schoo and I always talk about a gun to my friend every day and every New Video from Ian is always the weapon i talked about how tf?
Made sure to finish my chocolate before watching this video.
I just watched the video of a US Marine who participated in Ukraine's Foreign Legion in the first few months of the war. His group were given FNC's and they were disappointed by how much they jammed irregardless of consistent liberal cleaning. They were jamming in the very first fire fight.
SS109/M855 is still a better round than the original M193. Which is pretty damning given the problems the M855 encountered in stopping determined aggressors 😬
Better is very subjective. M193 has good terminal performance at high velocity (i.e. short range) while SS109 is much better at barrier penetration (at all ranges) but trades off some terminal performance against non-protected targets, which its worst performance being around the 100m mark (due to bullet stabilisation). At longer ranges the SS109 pulls a lead on the M193 in terminal performance as the M193 will fail to fragment at those velocities (anything under 800 m/s), while the SS109 will tumble earlier due to its increased length and lower density.
Swedes painting it green makes a lot of sense considering over 70% of Sweden is covered in forest (yes, almost 3/4 of the country).
Oddly enough, black is pretty much the least common colour in any natural environment.
The flash hider is weird, normally there are 4 holes instead of 3
Anything special this Christmas, gun Jesus ?
Watched this again after seeing some fighters in Ukraine with them.
SIG 550, Beretta AR70, FN FNC, AK 5 = WESTERN AKs ;)
Ahhh the Krig 6
We passed upon the stair...
Once again , gun Jesus is preaching the good word. Thank you
Ahh the Krig 6
The overhung captive recoil spring makes me wonder why non-folding designs are still relevant.
Although one thing, if there is a lever for grenade cutoff and space to swivel much further why not delete the elaborate adverse tube and use the grenade cutoff instead?
Because the grenade cutoff is also the grenade rear sight. You'll then need to add a separate rear sight.
@@andrewsuryali8540 I meant swivel the lever right past the cutoff (grenade) position to a position even further forward, facing ahead. Only going to be using adverse in non grenade situations and occasionally, no problem having the lever swinging out there for that.
It seems regardless of the weapon FN sits in that sweet spot of practical but innovative, not reliant on kraut space magic like HK, not designed to operated by an Ivan with a hammer like russian stuff and not beholden to the Army Ordnance Dept like US gear, just a sensible balance of everything.
Visit the Husqvarna museum in Sweden, they have a great Gun collection!
ThAtS ThE kRiG FrOm WArZooNE
I wish there was an American gun company willing to build semi-auto versions of the FNC for the domestic commercial market! 😢
What was the game in the 2000's that this was the first assault class weapon in? I'll always remember this from that.
I wonder if the sporting versions were export only. Being Belgian, I own a FAL and a SAFN and I've encountered both of them many times at gun ranges and stores but I've never encountered a FNC that wasn't being carried by a soldier.
Ian bringing the HEAT with this one.
You wanna play rough, huh? Okay!
WTF is that? BBQ and ballgames?
you can get killed walking your doggy!
"Don't waste my muthafuckin time"
What are you, a fuckin' owl?
Sweden's addition of green paint and the mitten friendly trigger guard is such a good look
Also billet machined upper receiver.
Comfy looking too!
Don't forget those neat Comp CS red dots. I still want one of those.
@@Rickster621 Is the current version machined? The original receiver was essentially identical to the FNC.
@@SonsOfLorgar There was no factory produced Ak5Cs. All of them are updated original Ak5s.
Beautiful… the FNC is nice too.
Lol
If I buy an fnc does it come with an Ian?
@@EnglishKiwi no sorry
@@EnglishKiwi maybe contact Morphys or rock island, they seem to have an abundance of Ian's
We are talking about real guns not airsoft guns
You: "Semi-auto".
Me, an intellectual: "One round burst".
You: "Safe".
Somebody: "Zero-round burst".
@@ALivingDinosaur me : no fun
The dust cover is a good design. It 's also used in the FN minimi (m249), galil ace and the AKV-521.
I cannot imagine where they've got that idea from!
Its also known as a cheese grater, and the gun is not truly considered a true gun until that part has tasted blood from first time users.
The minimi in sweden(KSP90) also accept mags from the AK5(regular STANAG). But the Americans discarded that ability. I see why, because I never seen anyone use that ability in my service.
@@PlaceholderforBjorn I remember hearing that that functionality was for the 20 round stanags or something like that, so the gun was in a more portable state but still loaded and for the fact that anyone could toss a mag to the mg crew incase of russian invasion numbers. Ofc, neither of those situations are likely to arise in modern combat.
@@PlaceholderforBjorn From memory, they chew the mags up and have a lot of stoppages.
Captive pins = a good way to improve how soldier-proof your weapon is.
I have never owned a firearm, but from all the videos of guns I've watched, I've come to the conclusion that captive pins are an inherently good idea. I feel similarly about automatic empty magazine bolt hold-open.
@@RadioactiveSherbet eeeeww we e
@@achtungvolk7807 mayhaps he's merely underage same as I, Lord forbid there's any other reason though...
@@parzavaal5335 lmao in all honesty I didn’t intentionally comment. I’m seeing this now & have surmised that I was inebriated
@@achtungvolk7807 lol that's the fuckin greatest
I will now start calling semi auto “one round burst”
Indonesian here. So I've heard from former service man that early production SS-1 (our domestic version of the FNC) is rather sucks because the firing pin often broke. They prefer the original Belgian made FNC or the M16.
Anyway Pindad would create more variants of the FNC/SS-1 like SS-1 M series for Indonesian Marine Corps, SS-1 R5 a 10.5 inch carbine for CQB, SBC-1 a semi automatic version of SS-1 R5 for Indonesian Customs Agency and probably the weirdest or I should say unique one is Pindad Sabhara series for police use. The Sabhara rifles were chambered in 7.62x45mm. Basically a 5.56 cartridge necked up to 7.62.
I still remember the story where one such guns after fired at full auto, it slowly looks like a man who ran out of viagra
Oddly enough, I was told in swedish service that the first belgian made rifles often had their firing pins break, something that was fixed with the swedish made rifles.
FNC or SS1 was best described as Pindad modernization which direly required after spent decades producing licensed Beretta BM-59..
really a major leap from 1950s tech..
of course, flaws and faults automagically coming with it..
takes quite sometime before all the quirks, crooks and cranny of modern rifle production line were worked out and mastered..
I don't see enough about Funco-chan and Upotte in comments
I remember several years ago, L85 videos would be flooded with "poor Elle-chan" comments.
Was curious. Looked it up. Now I want to try whatever drugs Tennouji was on when they wrote it 🤣
And as Ian starts talking about going to the range and full auto, I frantically search the screen for the like button, only to find it already activated. Tomorrow, I tell myself, tomorrow...
I too, wish I could like a video multiple times.
Ah, Funco-Chan, we meet again.
Was expecting somebody to say this.
Don't look at the stock. And don't speak about it.
@@23GreyFox _looking intensifies_
@@md_vandenberg T-back...
@@benn454 Funco: *Selects Full-Auto mode*