FN Model D: The Last and Best BAR

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  • @BenjoKazooie64
    @BenjoKazooie64 4 года назад +2012

    Astoundingly ironic how the BAR was improved by pretty much every country that used it *except* the US.

    • @tutes0133
      @tutes0133 4 года назад +268

      Well the FBI did by way of the Monitor. Adding a big muzzle brake/flashhider and a a pistol grip. Ian actually has another video about it if you haven't seen it. Good video too.
      But if you mean in a proper millitary role? Well the Yanks made to carry them were shit outta luck.

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 4 года назад +40

      Thomas Essers most likely because US weren’t there to buy any improved versions, the bests you probably got was a Automatic M14, and still, American’s probably didn’t mind as unless they know about it, they probably used it as any other WW2 gun.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 4 года назад +154

      When a army adopts a version of something, it's practically bound to use THAT version until it's replaced by something else, for the sake of interchangeability of parts.
      IE the last M9 Beretta manufactured for the US army were still the 1985 specs, despite the manufacturer having implemented several plug&play improvements in the civilian versions.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 4 года назад +97

      It's not just the US. The military procurement system of most nations makes it very difficult to change the design of a weapon once it's been adopted. Sometimes it happens, but not very often.

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ 4 года назад +58

      @@itsapittie The US military did change it, unfortunately they changed it mostly to the worse.

  • @clickbaitable9578
    @clickbaitable9578 4 года назад +1436

    Teacher: So what did we all learn from WWI everyone?
    Me: "You want dust covers on everything" - Ian McCollum 2020

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 4 года назад +93

      Colonialism and nationalism, linked with state propaganda, have the capacity to mobilize millions of ordinary men to slaughter one another when they would really rather be playing soccer with one another or having a beer.

    • @manatoa1
      @manatoa1 4 года назад +27

      It's bad idea for the hegemon to get complacent and let an ambitious lesser power become a peer.

    • @yurisv7315
      @yurisv7315 4 года назад +33

      You may also want a dust cover on a dust cover, just to be extra sure.

    • @clickbaitable9578
      @clickbaitable9578 4 года назад +8

      @@yurisv7315 Agreed 100%. I plan on adding that one day

    • @ReverendMeat51
      @ReverendMeat51 4 года назад +17

      In 12 years of compulsory schooling, only one week at best did we ever learn anything about WW1.

  • @Coastal_Cruzer
    @Coastal_Cruzer 4 года назад +648

    The BAR has three modes: Safe, Full Auto, and Fuller Auto

  • @cameronnightman8112
    @cameronnightman8112 4 года назад +1006

    You can tell that the detachable barrel translated into the FN MAG/ M240 system well

    • @zenger74
      @zenger74 4 года назад +47

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @paupauldu01
      @paupauldu01 4 года назад +38

      Even the inside looks similar!

    • @cameronnightman8112
      @cameronnightman8112 4 года назад +41

      @@paupauldu01 Yes, definitely. I'm very familiar with the 240B. It seems exactly the same with the rotating handle and teeth.

    • @dwon031
      @dwon031 4 года назад +40

      Even the bolt carrier/Op rod looks very similar to the FN MAG/240.

    • @dereksim8787
      @dereksim8787 4 года назад +35

      Yup. Except that on the FN MAG there was a catch on the handle to lift with the index finger to activate the carrying handle instead of yanking the whole handle. Heck, even the removing of the bolt and piston from the rear end seemed to have translated to the FN MAG as well.

  • @iPhoneeditor
    @iPhoneeditor 4 года назад +870

    For some reason this gun is just so damn sexy. It's not elegant looking or streamlined, but looks rugged, mechanically efficient and reliable, and simply badass.

    • @dumbleking5172
      @dumbleking5172 4 года назад +37

      Looking at it, looks like it fits the hands of Rambo. Uncertain of john wick though.

    • @guypierson5754
      @guypierson5754 4 года назад +55

      I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover but when I see this BAR I get a feeling of confidence, like this is a machine made to last by people who don't ever want their boys to die for want of shooting back.

    • @bennettmay9283
      @bennettmay9283 4 года назад +10

      Very Steampunk

    • @matthewkarle4954
      @matthewkarle4954 4 года назад +3

      damn straight

    • @rage132891
      @rage132891 4 года назад +25

      It looks sturdy, unlike weapons that come out today that look like edgy nerf guns

  • @themadkraken1912
    @themadkraken1912 4 года назад +122

    This weapon has absolutely no right to look as absolutely stunning as it does. I want one now.

    • @chrismusicx
      @chrismusicx 2 года назад +2

      it has every right. i want one too lol

  • @ahkal7897
    @ahkal7897 4 года назад +411

    BAR: "Who are you?"
    FN-D : "I'm you but better"

    • @rogueleader7506
      @rogueleader7506 4 года назад +4

      @@DEarls-ye9tz
      FN-D: "Who are you?"
      FAL: "Im you, but skinnier and less accurate when trying to shoot fast."

    • @dante666jt
      @dante666jt 4 года назад +1

      @@rogueleader7506 lmfao

    • @dante666jt
      @dante666jt 4 года назад +5

      BAR: Who you
      FN-D: I am you but a stripper

    • @willitsteel
      @willitsteel 4 года назад +3

      Better but less attractive

    • @Oblithian
      @Oblithian 4 года назад +4

      BAR: "But I'm me"
      (unintelligible arnold noises)

  • @gusd41
    @gusd41 4 года назад +327

    I guess you can say it raises the bar? I’ll see myself out.

    • @earthenjadis8199
      @earthenjadis8199 4 года назад +33

      Yes. You're barred from this topic.

    • @flightlesschicken7769
      @flightlesschicken7769 4 года назад +8

      Budum tishh

    • @gusd41
      @gusd41 4 года назад +14

      I guess this comment section went all Fubar

    • @twatts45
      @twatts45 4 года назад +9

      I love bad jokes you can stay lol.

    • @captainahab2711
      @captainahab2711 4 года назад +7

      Good. Now get out of my bar, and never come back!

  • @TheTruth-ge7fj
    @TheTruth-ge7fj 4 года назад +128

    This is the gun you want whenever you riding a t-rex.

    • @bruhmoment6625
      @bruhmoment6625 4 года назад +5

      I’ll stick to the mg42

    • @MtnBadger
      @MtnBadger 4 года назад

      (Or facing one... lol).
      I can see a mount with "gunners perch" behind the "operator/driver" of the T-rex. 😆

    • @dermotmeaney
      @dermotmeaney 3 года назад +5

      Why are you riding a t-rex?!

    • @adamgrimsley6455
      @adamgrimsley6455 3 месяца назад

      Just what I was thinking

  • @Abdega
    @Abdega 4 года назад +384

    Initial D: FN-D
    “Do you like, my *BAR* ?”

  • @garymckinley6974
    @garymckinley6974 4 года назад +59

    The detachable barrel and carry handle are pure genius adaptation.

    • @graemehogg7033
      @graemehogg7033 4 года назад +2

      Gary McKinley I’d take a Bren over this any day...both features already there...plus another 10 rounds in the magazine.

    • @johnnytrigger5512
      @johnnytrigger5512 4 года назад

      @@SonsOfLorgar bren gun is much better👍

  • @roguereaver634
    @roguereaver634 4 года назад +101

    Thing looks like what you'd get if the (new) Wolfenstein games had a BAR

    • @williamguilfoyle3068
      @williamguilfoyle3068 4 года назад +10

      Which they should

    • @Tobascodagama
      @Tobascodagama 3 года назад +6

      @@williamguilfoyle3068 I'm looking forward to a Dieselpunk M16 or something in the next one. If it takes place after the second game's American Revolution, there should be some domestically-produced weapons instead of BJ being stuck using Nazi guns the whole game.

    • @brianyoung3324
      @brianyoung3324 3 года назад +1

      @@Tobascodagama that's a cool idea! I always wanted to see more Allied stuff in wolfenstein for the contrast in design style.

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 3 года назад +1

      Only if it was in a ww2 section of a wolfenstein game. Like how they changed the thompson and stg to have more cooling fins.

  • @blackstone777
    @blackstone777 4 года назад +259

    Love the BAR. Never understood why the US military didn't adopt the pistol grip. It would make it much more ergonomic and easier to fire.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 4 года назад +63

      1920s and 1930s Army budgets are probably why

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад +24

      Great Depression.

    • @Ideo7Z
      @Ideo7Z 4 года назад +115

      @@sinisterthoughts2896 Yup. The Ordnance dept were the proto Fudds of that era. Eugene Stoner probably lost a decade off of his lifespan having to deal with their 19th century b.s. mentality.

    • @RambleOn07
      @RambleOn07 4 года назад +9

      @@sinisterthoughts2896 If it does not work, you can always hit them with it.

    • @scinto23
      @scinto23 4 года назад +14

      Also makes me wonder why the Krag and 03 Springfield had straight stocks, especially the 03 since it was essentially a Mauser copy.

  • @CaptainGrief66
    @CaptainGrief66 4 года назад +31

    By far also the prettiest BAR, with also a beautiful dieselpunk aesthetic!

  • @alancranford3398
    @alancranford3398 4 года назад +57

    Timothy J. Mullins regarded the 6.5mm Swedish edition of this FN Model D to be superior because the lower recoil cartridge made this automatic rifle more controllable in full auto fire.

    • @orionakd
      @orionakd Год назад +3

      If you use 5.56x45mm modern ammunition , plus a 16" barrel with a pistol grip.
      This will instantly turn the BAR into an assault rifle!
      and remember to add a dust cover!

    • @TheAzureNightmare
      @TheAzureNightmare 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@orionakdAh, an early FN CAL.

  • @breuschbarbare0248
    @breuschbarbare0248 4 года назад +126

    Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад +5

      It's close to 20 pounds.

    • @fuzzyhead878
      @fuzzyhead878 4 года назад +2

      “Flashbacks of Medal of Honor Franchise”

    • @clintcannon1902
      @clintcannon1902 4 года назад +6

      @@WALTERBROADDUS exactly why one doesn't want to get brained with it, I think. I know I wouldn't volunteer.

    • @Reactordrone
      @Reactordrone 4 года назад +4

      And if you're in Luxembourg you're not going to have to carry it more than 80km.

    • @jasonarmstrong5750
      @jasonarmstrong5750 4 года назад +1

      WALTERBROADDUS perfect weight for bludgeoning someone to death

  • @Ezio_Auditore_Assassin
    @Ezio_Auditore_Assassin 4 года назад +102

    4:34 Let me show you...God I thought he is gonna say"Let me show you its feature" with Joerg Sprave laughing voice! lol

    • @markusmottus1686
      @markusmottus1686 4 года назад +4

      Had the same thought there!😂

    • @BRETTYZCAR
      @BRETTYZCAR 4 года назад +8

      Tanks and Bye Bye!

    • @dumbleking5172
      @dumbleking5172 4 года назад +11

      _You hear a slow booming laughter coming from the end of the hall._

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 4 года назад +5

      I was hoping for it! He should do it just as a homage and a gag.

    • @Face2theScr33n
      @Face2theScr33n 4 года назад +3

      @gofa curself Jörg did a video about owning guns in Germany. And yes, he does! Hahaha!
      Thanks, and bye-bye!

  • @IrishTechnicalThinker
    @IrishTechnicalThinker 4 года назад +36

    Gear wheels within the trigger assembly, now that's craftsmanship.

  • @stvnbryan5542
    @stvnbryan5542 4 года назад +21

    A 240B or Golf has the same barrel change system. Pulling out the bolt is similar too. When FN gets a good idea they really stick with it.

    • @StacheMan26
      @StacheMan26 4 года назад +6

      That wasn't the only good idea they carried over, since mechanically the FN MAG/M240 is basically a beefed up BAR with the feed system from an MG 42 on top.

    • @Taolan8472
      @Taolan8472 3 года назад +1

      Not just FN, Belgians in general are very practical and firmly believe "if it aint broke dont fix it"

    • @graysun9108
      @graysun9108 3 года назад

      Even with the HK MG4 and MG5 the operating bar seems similar although that the bolt is different

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 4 года назад +402

    Slightly unrelated, but how did Luxembourg end up with .30-06 as it's standard cartridge? I don't think I've ever heard the story behind that.

    • @mrpane911
      @mrpane911 4 года назад +188

      There was an American in the neighborhood who needed to offload all his overstock product and he let them have it for a deal as he couldn't afford to ship it back. Ipso facto it became the ammo du jour.
      Or not, its a good story IMO even though i just made it up

    • @geodkyt
      @geodkyt 4 года назад +207

      They rearmed right at the end of WWII, and chose the American .30-06 as the "obvious" choice, years before 7.62x51mm was adopted by NATO.
      They standardized on the cartridge that their biggest ally had (and since the US was basically giving away all the US arms our Allies needed during the late 1940s...)
      So, Luxembourg adopted the SAFN 49 in .30-06, and FN had a package deal including the BAR in the same caliber for countries that adopted the SAFN. Much like later on (after 7.62x51mm was adopted by NATO), they had a package deal of GP35 pistol, (eventually) Uzi SMG, FAL rifle, FALO "LMG", and MAG58 GPMG. Literally, call up FN with an RFQ, tell them your basic force structure and over all size, and they could draft up a complete small arms package (including maintenance support), for a predictable price, at reasonable financial arrangements, with the entire package contract ready in days and delivery to start within weeks or a few months of acceptance.

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 4 года назад +17

      @@geodkyt So how did they determine that .30-06 was the "obvious" choice? Just picked it because it was available, or were there some tests?

    • @rumblin_cynth_rampo374
      @rumblin_cynth_rampo374 4 года назад +46

      30-06 wasnt Luxemburg's standard cartridge. They had a complete mish mash of stuff. In WW2 (and presumably prior and just after) they used Lee Enfields, Ross rifles, P14s Kar 98s, Brens, Vickers BARs and MG08s. They also made use of FN 1949 in 30-06 as well as FN FAL post WW2

    • @markwalshopoulos
      @markwalshopoulos 4 года назад +47

      @@thegoldencaulk2742 loads of M1s and other guns that were given to them by the US, similar to how the Italians and Danes started using it

  • @georgewashington92
    @georgewashington92 4 года назад +69

    My grandfather used this gun during his service in Lux

  • @devaneyjohn5349
    @devaneyjohn5349 4 года назад +44

    I love this channel. The history talked about here isn't something you can easily find in a textbook and ties together some fascinating facets of the economics and people behind the weapons into a tight, understandable insight that is uniquely rare.
    Also, the guns Iain showcases are almost universally awesome. Someone give this man a PHD.

  • @phoebetan7519
    @phoebetan7519 3 года назад +9

    There are so many features here that seem to have carried over into the FN-MAG. (Disclosure: used to be a Singapore Army infantry officer - so I was pretty much train in every infantry weapon in the inventory. 20 years later, I can probably still fieldstrip a GPMG in 30 seconds. Getting old with age :).

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a 4 года назад +55

    I got excited when I saw RIA's title said transferable only to be crest fallen when the description said dealer sample.

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 4 года назад +12

      Universal FFL for all citizens!

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 4 года назад +35

      @@mrbloodmuffins
      No. Repeal the unconstitutional National Firearms Act of 1934 and all the amendments to it. Forbid lower jurisdictions from having weapon control laws as well. I also want a switchblade.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 4 года назад +10

      @@calvingreene90 At least in my state I can have an automatic knife, so that's something I guess. You don't realize just how convenient an automatic-opening knife is until you have one.

    • @dutchplanderlinde4845
      @dutchplanderlinde4845 4 года назад +8

      Kelton Oliver a fully-semi automatic knife?

    • @TacticalTerry
      @TacticalTerry 4 года назад +3

      @@dutchplanderlinde4845 A semi-fully automatic knife. It almost does everything for you...kinda. xD
      I always wonder why AoC said what she did and whether she realized how awful it sounded.

  • @W1ckedRcL
    @W1ckedRcL 4 года назад +14

    The quick change barrel and carry handle mechanism are identical to the M240B. It's interesting to see the development history of parts and mechanisms like that.
    Thank you gun Jesus for bestowing your wisdom upon us.

    • @JG54206
      @JG54206 Год назад

      The locking system on the 240 is also based on the BAR lockup.

  • @Ciderwinder
    @Ciderwinder 3 года назад +13

    "You're going to war son"
    BAR-D "But father, all I want to do is sing!"

    • @FN_FAL_4_ever
      @FN_FAL_4_ever 3 года назад +3

      Stop that stop that, there’ll be no singing while I’m here

    • @adamgrimsley6455
      @adamgrimsley6455 3 месяца назад +1

      Who would build a castle in a swamp?

  • @westofreaches
    @westofreaches 4 года назад +50

    And with that, we get a complete history of the BAR. God, I love this channel.

  • @zacharyrollick6169
    @zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад +44

    This seems to be the FAL's dad.

    • @zacharyrollick6169
      @zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад +15

      @@SonsOfLorgar They met during the German occupation..... it was a forbidden love....

    • @googiegress7459
      @googiegress7459 3 года назад

      Isn't FAL's dad dead?

  • @michaelpaparelli3227
    @michaelpaparelli3227 4 года назад +18

    The fact that men were typically smaller and yet hauled this beautiful beast into battle is a testament to ability and strength.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 3 года назад +1

      If you stand lower to the ground, less likely you are to get the head blown off.

    • @Dracomandriuthus
      @Dracomandriuthus 3 года назад +4

      By "typically smaller", I'm assuming you mean that the average height was some 1 inch shorter? That's really not enough to make a difference.
      Edited with a bit of googling, according to google sources, the average height in the US during 1940 was 69 inches, which was the same average height today.

  • @stephanl1983
    @stephanl1983 4 года назад +45

    Luxembourg bought 259+ of these guns, would they issue them to every single soldier😉🤔?!
    In 1940,they had 13 Officers, 255 members of the Gendarmerie and 425 volunteers!

    • @syrakul9493
      @syrakul9493 4 года назад +14

      Me and my standard issue BAR 😁

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 года назад +9

      The Luxemburgers went to a larger force structure after 1945, 2 infantry battalions, an artillery battalion, the Ducal Guard and the Gendarmes all needed some handy firepower.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 4 года назад +10

      You could make a good argument that for an army that small, arming everyone with something like a BAR makes a lot of sense. Certainly a man-portable weapon with a lot of punch and a high rate of fire would be desirable.

    • @stephanl1983
      @stephanl1983 4 года назад +1

      @@itsapittie and take a look at the constellation of an US Army squad in WW2, there was always an assistant Gunner to carry extra ammunition for the BAR Gunner, so you has no Riflemen in your squad!

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 4 года назад +9

      @@stephanl1983 Oh, I'm not saying the army of Luxembourg actually planned that way, nor even that they should have, but it would make sense for them to have used a higher percentage of automatic weapons than contemporary armies. Obviously they couldn't realistically eliminate riflemen entirely. My comment was a not-entirely-serious observation about the needs of small armies vs. large ones.

  • @daer2121
    @daer2121 4 года назад +26

    That gear and rocker system is called an 'escapement' they've found in every mechanical watch.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapement?wprov=sfla1

    • @jasoncrow7681
      @jasoncrow7681 4 года назад +1

      Thank you. Will do some more reading on this.

    • @WalkaCrookedLine
      @WalkaCrookedLine 4 года назад +2

      I wonder how quickly the gear and rocker teeth wear in use and need to be replaced.

    • @daer2121
      @daer2121 4 года назад +1

      @@WalkaCrookedLine if properly designed, they'll last as long as the rifle.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 3 года назад

      Once used on rc model airplanes as well.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 3 года назад

      @@daer2121 as long as sand and oil don't get inside at the same time.

  • @nunyabidniz2868
    @nunyabidniz2868 4 года назад +9

    Arguably, the FN-D is still being made, as the FN MAG is just a BAR turned upside down w/ a belt feed... ;-)

  • @PW.6060
    @PW.6060 4 года назад +6

    I didn't think I could love the BAR more, but I guess I can. It's so beautiful!

  • @skyddad00
    @skyddad00 4 года назад +5

    As someone who has used the KSP-58, it is fun to see the origins of the detatchable barrel system for the FN MAG

  • @richthompson1234
    @richthompson1234 Год назад +2

    The family history of these weapons is something I'm learning about all the time, thanks to this channel.
    The carrying handle 'pull out to carry' system was adopted by the UK for it's version of the FN MAG (know in UK service as the GPMG.

  • @user-lg4mm3mf8i
    @user-lg4mm3mf8i 4 года назад +3

    This weapon was the standard squad light machinegun for the Belgian army in 1940. It was also fitted in bunkers and was installed as a secondary weapon in T-13 tankhunters. (The main gun was a C47 antitankgun.) From the accounts that I've read on the invasion of Belgium in 1940 it did pretty well. The magazine is a little small at just 20 rounds but other than that, it did a good job.

  • @sarath431
    @sarath431 4 года назад +31

    Indeed the Belgians can make more than just waffles. I wish there is a modern civilian version of this gun.

    • @bartdebaere2252
      @bartdebaere2252 4 года назад +4

      Beer, chocolate, ... ;)

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад +2

      @@WarblesOnALot and the best "French" fries in the world.

    • @sarath431
      @sarath431 4 года назад

      @@bartdebaere2252 - them too.

    • @sarath431
      @sarath431 4 года назад +1

      @@PapaSchultz74 - how come I forget that? The Belgians gave the world french fries.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад

      @@WarblesOnALot sure i should have said 'frites a la graisse de bœuf'

  • @chadedick7911
    @chadedick7911 4 года назад +4

    I love how a lot of the elements of the guts of this were used again when they designed the US M240B machine gun. I loved carrying and using it during my time in service

  • @KKG51
    @KKG51 3 года назад

    I always enjoy your very thorough and easy to follow explanations. Thanks much!

  • @MLMILLERZZ
    @MLMILLERZZ 2 года назад

    People forget the BAR was built in WWI as an early Assault Weapon. It was built to Assault machinegun positions with Walking Fire. Only later was it morphed into a Squad Machine Gun. The Marines from about 1944 on tried to have three BARs per 13 man Squad, so their four-man Fire Teams each had a BAR to maneuver with when attacking dug-in Japanese. That system worked well.

  • @mrfancypanzer549
    @mrfancypanzer549 4 года назад +44

    I wonder how the Swedish BARs were to operate, they had quick detach barrels and were chambered in 6.5x55 so recoil would be very manageable.

    • @KamikazKid
      @KamikazKid 4 года назад +9

      Yeah, I disagree with Ian on this one, I think the swedish bar is the best BAR. It's a hard hitting fast and flat shooting round. If you look at it the barrel lock up Carl Gustav designed is simpler, and the swedes actually converted their BARs to belt-fed after WW2. The only drawbacks compared to the model D is the swedes forego the dust covers, and that makes sense you see that on lots of WW2 produced guns start losing those extra bits that although nice they make production slower.

    • @nisse7399
      @nisse7399 4 года назад +3

      For anyone wondering what they talking about you can read more here:
      www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/kg/swedish_kg2.htm

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 4 года назад +1

      Beautiful weapon.

    • @vrisbrianm4720
      @vrisbrianm4720 3 года назад

      The action of the Swedish BAR can't be dissembled from the back though. And some would argue that a larger projectile is more preferable for a MG round

    • @einar8019
      @einar8019 2 года назад

      @@KamikazKid they designed a belt fed one but it was not adopted

  • @volkermattler7583
    @volkermattler7583 4 года назад +4

    ORIGINAL WWII BAR LEATHER POUCHES WITH ALL ORIGINAL TOOLS AND PARTS INSIDE AVAILABLE NOW ON EBAY

  • @compwiz101
    @compwiz101 3 года назад +2

    That gearwheel mechanism for the slow firing is *exactly* how slow-speed delay mechanisms work in many mechanical camera shutters, just a fair bit larger! The duration of the time generally is based on presetting how much travel is being driven into the wheel :D

  • @MasterJabbs
    @MasterJabbs 4 года назад +1

    I've used / shot the C6 GPMG / FN MAG (belt fed), quite similar to the BAR. Fun weapons to shoot, but can leave one hell of a bruise on your shoulder if used incorrectly, may leave you with just a sore shoulder. I like the fact that they have / come with a second (longer) barrel. Thanks for showing this forgotten weapon!

  • @clintcannon1902
    @clintcannon1902 4 года назад +21

    Luxembourg is about the size of a large American county, and they had at least 259 of these auto-beasts?
    That's very metal of them.

    • @1timcat
      @1timcat 4 года назад

      When you're little you want force multipliers.

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 4 года назад +1

      I'd imagine the weapons possessed in just one large American county would blow your mind 🤣

    • @clintcannon1902
      @clintcannon1902 4 года назад +1

      @@ProlificInvention no... I live in a large American county. No surprise at all.

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 4 года назад

      @@clintcannon1902 It was quite metal of them though. Definitely agree.

  • @adam86753
    @adam86753 4 года назад +57

    "Last and best BAR"
    HCAR: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @Snoky5313
    @Snoky5313 4 года назад

    It is still the most enjoyable kind of history you can watch on youtube: Gun Jesus talks about cool old shooty hardware and teaches you a lot of information and some neat trivia.
    Thanks for your effort, Ian!

  •  8 месяцев назад

    It is 2023 and I came here from the other, earlier model FN BAR video. The field stripping procedure is indeed an improvement. It took Ian like 5 minutes on the other one to get the bolt out.

  • @rokball4892
    @rokball4892 4 года назад +13

    Wow, that machine gun is one of my best version of the Browning’s Bar. I love it.

  • @bootscrombled
    @bootscrombled 4 года назад +45

    Ohio Ordnance Works:
    *Cries in HCAR*

    • @ImYourIchigo
      @ImYourIchigo 4 года назад +7

      *sad HCAR noises

    • @breembo
      @breembo 4 года назад +1

      Isnt the hcar like 8lbs lighter? Seems like a win to me. That FND is heavy as shit. When I had one it felt as heavy as a 240

    • @ToastytheG
      @ToastytheG 4 года назад

      @@breembo yeah but recoil my dude

    • @breembo
      @breembo 4 года назад

      @@ToastytheG cant be worse then FA m14.

    • @breembo
      @breembo 4 года назад

      @Toucan • its too late, the atf already seized it. Now I only get to use harsh language to fight off xenomorphs.

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 3 года назад +1

    Mr. Saive was quite the designer. The carry handle locking system is ingenious and practical. The spring guide is very reminiscent of the FAL, angled down like that (i believe the FN49 is similar- no need to reinvent the wheel). This is a great final chapter in the military BAR story. I can't believe the US military didn't adopt something as simple as a pistol grip assembly/removable fire control assembly and a better bipod. To say nothing of the quick change barrel and the easier fieldstripping. I assume it was plain old hidebound pride and an unwillingness to admit that someone could improve our arms. Great video as always. Thank you

  • @donlamb1800
    @donlamb1800 4 года назад +1

    I like how you can see the precursors to future FN projects on this rifle, which makes sense considering the designer.

  • @sil3ntsp3ct3r
    @sil3ntsp3ct3r 4 года назад +3

    Damn that barrel qd system and bcg is definitely the MAG/240's daddy.

  • @HALO-2304
    @HALO-2304 4 года назад +7

    The gear and rocker remind me of the pallet fork in a mechanical watch. Also, the bolt "rat tail" spring guid rod and recoil spring looks a bit similar to the FAL.

    • @soka1268
      @soka1268 4 года назад

      HALO 2304 even the locking system. Flip it go from 1911 to hipower. There is your FAL.

  • @jeffreytam7684
    @jeffreytam7684 Год назад +1

    The greatest irony about the BAR is that there were several iterations of the basic design that were developed during the Interwar years.
    The FN Model D, for example, significantly improved the gun, addressing most of the flaws brought up here.
    It was still a bit heavy though

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 4 года назад

    Awesome, i love the BAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a 1970's Browning BAR Rifle in 30-06 Springfield. Thank you So much for showing this FN Model D BAR , Gun Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @TheNextGreatApe
    @TheNextGreatApe 4 года назад +9

    Never seen a gun with what is literally a clock-escapement rate reducer!

  • @narwhalsheckyeah
    @narwhalsheckyeah 4 года назад +4

    Now I really hope you'll get the opportunity to make videos about the Swedish manufactured m/21 and m/37 BARs soon.

  • @Reaper4367
    @Reaper4367 3 года назад

    Magnificent piece of kit. Cheers for sharing.

  • @Sophiedorian0535
    @Sophiedorian0535 Год назад +1

    Belgian engineer here. 60 years old. I don’t design guns. I design electric guitars and design metal guitar bridges. My brand is ‘Dorian’, based in Antwerp. Dieudonne Saive’s work and the weapons, engines, and appliances developed by FN, form an obligatory part of my schooling. But so is my 19th century countryman Adolphe Sax, of Saxophone fame.
    I most totally love your channel. You are a great teacher and demonstrator. No fake GI Joe machismo. Not even a milligram! I like that very much about your style. I would have done better financially if I had followed my colleagues to FN, but my conscience got in the way. ‘One more guitar equals one less AK (or FAL or AR or FAMAS)’, is my motto.
    My other motto is: ‘I Tinker Therefore I Am’.
    Belgians are tinkerers.
    And we are a little bit crazy.
    We really are.😊

  • @Joshua_Finbarr
    @Joshua_Finbarr 4 года назад +4

    FN D is just a BAR but in a mad max gun form.

  • @alvaroasi
    @alvaroasi 4 года назад +7

    Teacher: What we learn about WWI?
    Ian: ¡Yes! you wants dust cover on everything!

  • @ianjohnson182
    @ianjohnson182 6 месяцев назад

    That "rocker" is really neat, and it is the same mechanical part as the Palette Fork in a mechanical watch, where the gear would be replaced with the Escapement Wheel. Very clever system for slowly unwinding a (relatively) very powerful main spring. Interesting to see Belgium borrow that piece of mechanical design that was mostly limited to Switzerland at the time.

  • @johnsollinger3278
    @johnsollinger3278 2 года назад

    It’s crazy how many parts of this, mainly the barrel detach system made their way onto the Mag 58 and are still in use today with the Mag/240

  • @F4Wildcat
    @F4Wildcat 4 года назад +29

    Well atleast they chose a universal D for both our languages. Flemish= Demonteerbaar, Wallonian= Dèmontable

    • @damienvandepol
      @damienvandepol 4 года назад +4

      Flemish is not a language, it's just a Dutch dialect.

    • @snape1464
      @snape1464 4 года назад +2

      Lol, the Dutchmen unite. In before Flanders becomes our latest province

    • @janlievens6964
      @janlievens6964 4 года назад

      @@damienvandepol yes i am flemish and the factory was in the french speaking half of Belgium Herstal

    • @janlievens6964
      @janlievens6964 4 года назад

      was and still is lol

    • @damienvandepol
      @damienvandepol 4 года назад

      @@janlievens6964 good for you! That still doesn't explain why people from Flanders think Flemish is a language, instead of being a Dutch dialect.

  • @Summer-it3wh
    @Summer-it3wh 4 года назад +11

    I'm pretty sure that slow mode system is very similar to the escapement mechanism of a clock, with the reciprocating catch being the "pendulum" essentially.

    • @agate_jcg
      @agate_jcg 4 года назад +3

      Yup, this is exactly how a mechanical clock works.

  • @Touchofwesterwald
    @Touchofwesterwald 4 года назад +2

    ORIGINAL WW2 BAR 1918 POUCHES WITH ALL PARTS AND TOOLS WWII AVAILABLE ON EBAY

  • @fdmackey3666
    @fdmackey3666 4 года назад

    A cousin of mine, a U.S. Marine, was trained on, carried, and utilized a U.S. produced B.A.R from Tarawa to Okinawa during WWII. The ONLY two complaints I ever heard him express about the B.A.R was the lack of a quick change barrel and the limited magazine capacity. An uncle on my Dad's side of the family shrub, carried and utilized, a B.A.R. from North Africa to Germany and he had the same problems with it. Both men, Soldier and Marine, felt that the B.A.R. would have been a better weapon with quick change barrels and at LEAST fifty round box magazines.

  • @marcaxe
    @marcaxe 3 года назад +3

    You'd think the Swiss would be the first to build an escapement into a rifle.

  • @onetruedodd
    @onetruedodd 4 года назад +6

    “D” which stands for “Destroyer of Worlds”

  • @hairydogstail
    @hairydogstail Год назад +1

    They didn't call it a fast or slow position but the normal and slow down position. The rifle could be shot while the ejection port cover was closed or the rifle could be charged while dust cover closed, the cover would automatically open either way....When positioning the lever to normal (fast) the lever needs to be pushed farther than where it stops to activate..

  • @seth468
    @seth468 4 года назад

    What a gorgeous gun. I'm in awe of how elegant and robust the FN-D is. This one looks like it could stand up to another several decades of service.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 4 года назад +7

    Very cool

  • @TOMAS-lh4er
    @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад +7

    MY TWO favorite guns in the world , "BAR" and the German "LUGER" !!!

    • @SeeYouInValhalla615
      @SeeYouInValhalla615 4 года назад +2

      totally agree, the LUGER 08 is iconic, unfortunaly there are many bad imitated, low quality fakes out there, but of can get your hands on a real one, just a great pistol.

    • @TOMAS-lh4er
      @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад +2

      @@SeeYouInValhalla615 YESW !!

  • @w.p8960
    @w.p8960 4 года назад +1

    I only fam fired BAR in basic infantry. I was all of 130lbs lying in soft sand. It actually pulled me forward. Troop handler bitched at me for unauthorized advancing.

  • @phosistkar6425
    @phosistkar6425 3 года назад

    looking at the construction of this thing it's pretty easy to see how FN designed the MAG (M240 in US service). The MAG is really just a belt fed version of this model D chambered in 7.62 Nato. The MAG uses the same action, gas system, and interrupted thread quick change barrel system as the model D.

  • @visionaryfirearmsllc9999
    @visionaryfirearmsllc9999 4 года назад +3

    Does the dust cover automatically open or is that something they would have to remember to open before firing?

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад +5

    FN- Let's see how we can improve the BAR.
    Swedes- Those boneheads forgot to belt feed it lol.

  • @zommellemmoz3999
    @zommellemmoz3999 3 года назад

    During my time in the army 1976/1977 we had, as a platoon weapon, the "basic" FN with a heavier barrel and bipod. Reason for the heavy barrel so we could fire on full auto longer...but still a 25 round magazine.

  • @lonewolf0281
    @lonewolf0281 4 года назад

    Excellent! Always hoped Ian would do a video on the FN Model D. :)
    Fun fact: The FN Model DA1 (7.62x51mm NATO version) was still used by some reserve units of the Belgian Army well into the late 80s. An amazing longevity.

  • @Scourgething
    @Scourgething 4 года назад +3

    Ian sounds really excited throughout this video. I'm betting he'll bet on this.

    • @miatafan
      @miatafan 4 года назад

      He wouldn’t make a video on it if he was going to bid on it

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 4 года назад

      @@miatafan He did with the MAS 38...

    • @Horseshoecrabwarrior
      @Horseshoecrabwarrior 4 года назад +2

      It's a dealer sample, sadly

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 4 года назад +4

    Dee err donnay. literally "God given" in French, so I guess his parents felt blessed by his birth.

    • @adto5942
      @adto5942 4 года назад +4

      I think the name you are looking for is "Dieu-donné".

  • @ricks.1092
    @ricks.1092 4 года назад +2

    The FNC and FN-49 models are my two favorite models in my entire collection. And my collection is quite extensive. My FN-49 is a first batch/production of these rifles, Dragonman wanted to purchase one of my FNC's, but to no avail. I actually know him and he's a bit unique but a fantastic person.

  • @rippervtol9516
    @rippervtol9516 3 года назад +2

    For half a second, I thought Ian was going to say " Let me show you... It's Features"

  • @benjamingamache6441
    @benjamingamache6441 4 года назад +8

    I wonder how a modern FNAR would perform with an auto sear.

    • @Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern
      @Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern 4 года назад

      considering the FNAR is a completely different gun, probably not well

    • @benjamingamache6441
      @benjamingamache6441 4 года назад

      @@Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern True but the action is based on the BAR, and here in the good ol' U-S-of-A, we don't ask why, we ask why not?

    • @IncomingMAlL
      @IncomingMAlL 4 года назад

      @@benjamingamache6441 The FNAR/Browning BAR has absolutely nothing to do with the BAR lmg's action, it's a rotating bolt with a short stroke gas system. ruclips.net/video/F52jwejMQTw/видео.html

  • @xekispir
    @xekispir 4 года назад +11

    I feel like I shouldnt be here yet

  • @timmeinschein9007
    @timmeinschein9007 8 месяцев назад

    Interesting note: The first BARs (M-1918) to get to France during WW1 were to a certain 1st Lt. named John M. Browning Jr. Dad sent them over "express" with all sorts of extras, paying for them out of his own pocket!

  • @HalfWarrior
    @HalfWarrior 4 года назад

    Really appreciate the history Ian, thank you!

  • @IrishTechnicalThinker
    @IrishTechnicalThinker 4 года назад +7

    Fun fact: If Ian McCullan lived in Ireland and was a famous member of the R.I.A. The police here would be making you a visit for a chat.

  • @azmodaiNO
    @azmodaiNO Год назад +3

    Painfully small magazine for a machine gun though.

    • @dennistate5953
      @dennistate5953 2 месяца назад +1

      Suppressive fire. Always gave bar to smallest guy in unit bc snipers hit him 1st.

  • @Coltbreath
    @Coltbreath 3 года назад

    Love to see live fire of this upgraded BAR! 👍

  • @michaelhutchinson4021
    @michaelhutchinson4021 9 месяцев назад

    You could buy these converted to semiauto in Canada from Ontario Gun and Tackle for around $550 Canadian. The US 1918A2 was about $75 cheaper. This was in the late 1980's. The one I had at that time would occasionally double off and when it did, it would make 2 holes about an inch apart at 100 yards.

  • @blakekenley1000
    @blakekenley1000 4 года назад +4

    Its like a 240... Huh.

  • @fryzvova
    @fryzvova 4 года назад +5

    Oh, this BAR looks TOUGH!

  • @brianmays1731
    @brianmays1731 4 года назад

    I love the field strip 2 bolts, so simple!

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 4 года назад

    Outstanding as always..thanks Ian

  • @bobbertbobberson6725
    @bobbertbobberson6725 4 года назад +3

    If only they added a belt as well, and the allies were rocking .30-06 M240's during the war...
    The barrel change mechanism really shows how the FN MAG/M240 is just a fancied up BAR.

    • @tutes0133
      @tutes0133 4 года назад +2

      But better and sexier. God I love that thing

  • @baronofhell2277
    @baronofhell2277 4 года назад +6

    Everyone except the US improves the Bar, aint that ironic.

    • @ARCLIGHT21
      @ARCLIGHT21 4 года назад

      Same goes to many guns

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  4 года назад +7

      Colt made lots of improvements, it was just the US military specifically that wasn't buying.

    • @baronofhell2277
      @baronofhell2277 4 года назад

      @@ForgottenWeapons True, should have clarified that i was meaning the Bar in military use.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 4 года назад

      @@baronofhell2277 Because CONgress wouldn't vote for more $ for new weapons in peacetime.

  • @CoreySimmons85
    @CoreySimmons85 4 года назад +1

    You can see how the mag 58/m240 design is a further evolution of the D watching this. Neat gun.

  • @MATRAKSKEN
    @MATRAKSKEN 4 года назад

    I used it in my Belgian Air Force reserve officers course in 1988 in 30-06 together with the Fn49! The Fnc was just being introduced then. We also.still.used the .30 cal Browning machine gun.

    • @MATRAKSKEN
      @MATRAKSKEN 4 года назад

      And the Thompson in .45!!!!