@@RedXlV then it's better than a Garand in many ways. More capacity and not limited to derated M1 ball. As well as better ergonomics. Unfortunately my eyes can't use iron sights anymore.
the military museum in belgium has in my opinion best collection of historical stuf in the world, from one of the only untouched ww1 british tanks left to 10-30 stg44 5 orso fg42s etc
Yes was there 05. Cover was free!! Amazing the sheer quantity of stuff you find there. Even better than imperial war museum I'd say. However, aircraft and armor vehicles seemed a bit neglected.
.30-06, 10 round fixed mag fed by 5 round strippers, cyclic rate north of 650 RPMs, traditional stocked rifle under 10 pounds - that's a real "Yee-HAW! Hold my ale!" moment, I'm sure. 😂
The locking system for the selector seems totally impractical for a service weapon, in the field the thing will have to be kept unlocked all the time otherwise what’s the point of having a ‘select fire’ option in the first place?
I think the idea was that you could have just one standard rifle and some troops would be trained to use it in full auto and others would not and you could restrict the use of full auto (by mechanical means) to those who were qualified.
Immediate apology for this bit on my part, "unmolested" for guns that should be full auto and are vs "molested" for guns that should be full auto but that ability has been taken away from them, could work("unneutered" and "neutered" are still valid alternatives). As for private Snuffy, if he were in a (theoretical) slav army, he'd either learn to use full auto properly or he'd perish from all the batine(beatings) he'd be getting for improper use. On the other hand, the rule of "full auto - lightweight - full power cartridge, you can pick 2 but never all 3 of them" still applies to this gun. Perhaps a custom chassis(with vfg, pistol grip and larger mag) it could work, barely.
@@precisedime1377 To be frank, "batine" was a favored and frequent punishment in the serbian/later yugoslavian army around ww1/post it, not sure for how long it stuck around. Edit to add: for a minute, didn't get the "revisionist history" bit, silly me.
I wonder why the British bothered tested this? They has converted a ZH29 and a gas trap Garand to full automatic in 1939; and found them to be uncontrollable.
I feel as if making the selection of a select fire weapon's firing mode an armourer-level process implies that someone had to have known this was a bad idea.
Plus only 10 rounds and they didn't add detachable magazines. I would imagine a 10 round fully auto weapon is completely useless. You'd only have three trigger pulls at most if you were very disciplined.
The unintended import of the Luxembourg Gendarmerie rifles into the US is a remarkable historical anecdote that shows the intricacies of firearm regulation in the past. Thanks for sharing this piece of firearms history with us.
@@bobhill3941definitely a criminal gang, actively only targeting private citizens minding their own business instead of going after real criminals causing actual crime
I've always loved the look of the FN49 design. I think it's even nicer looking than our Garand. A detachable 20 round mag would have made it more useful as a military rifle
@@vincentmueller3717 Not FAL mags, it was a unique 20-round 7.62 mag. Somewhat longer and narrower than the FAL mag. I assume the using actual FAL mags, which would've been obviously advantageous to a nation using the FAL, wasn't feasible for whatever reason.
I had an Egyptian contract FN-49 in 8mm Mauser. With the recoil from the 8mm, I could never imagine the muzzle rise in full auto. And yes I've fired a M-14 in full auto.
I have an Egyptian in freshly rebuilt condition with new-looking stock. For some reason unbeknownst to me, the Egyptians are known as the ''least desirable''!?!. I got mine from a friend who disassembled it, couldn't put it back together. So he brought it to me, and I put it back together for him. He disassembled it again, couldn't put it back together again, brought it to me again, and GAVE me the rifle!
@@pb68slab18 Mine was the same. arsenal refurbished. It looked factory new. Being a young engineering student, the first chance I got, I stripped the rifle down and removed all the grease and re-oiled and greased everything. I don't remember any especially complex reassembly issues. But you were able to complete the task, so, it wasn't a fit issue. I had alot of fun with the FN-49. Maybe I'll get another in the future.
I once owned an FN49 in 8mm mauser. It was one of the most well made weapons I have ever owned. The fit and machining were outstsnding for a military rifle. Im sure it was very costly to make. FN has always made high quality weapons.
I remember seeing them advertised in an old American Rifleman magazine from the 60's they were like 50 bucks mailed right to your door. I always wanted one but they cost a lot more than 50 bucks now...
I just picked one up in 8mm this Tuesday, a huge crack in the stock is keeping me from shooting it. It's reassuring knowing that everyone who has owned one loved it.
I'll be willing to bet that thousands of collectors are pulling their old FN-49's out of the safe checking for grinding marks or the remnants of those two marks as soon as the video ended ! 🤣
Ian I know this is off topic but I just did my Responder 1 class with Refuge Medical yesterday. I learned about them thanks to you and the class was amazing. I learned a great deal and feel better prepared. I just wanted to say thanks for bringing them to my attention. I used your code for the discount by the way.
It wouldn't be difficult for a soldier to find a tool that would allow the full auto function but it would make it very difficult for the private to claim it happened by accident. That may very well have been the thinking.
At time 6:37 you start to explain what trips the safety sear in full auto mode. You state that a lug on the bolt does the tripping. This is incorrect. According to the Fabrique Nationale Model 49 Self-Loading Rifle manual "The safety sear is then pushed forwards by the bolt carrier...". This similar to how the FN FAL works. Part of the "conversion" to semiautomatic only was the the removal of the lug on the bolt carrier that trips the safety sear. A number of years ago either SARCO or Gun Parts offer the parts for select fire for these rifles.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Saive was actively working on the FAL at the same time he was finishing the FN-49. With the FN-49, he was completing his wartime work on what the British had designated SLEM-1. But at the time, the FAL prototypes were chambered in 7.92x33mm and 7x43mm, so adapting a FAL magazine to it wasn't exactly an option. By the time the 7.62x51 FAL existed, the FN-49 was already in production with its fixed 10-round mag. At the time the FN-49's design was completed, the assumption was that the FAL would be an assault rifle firing an intermediate cartridge, and the FN-49 would be for anybody who wanted a more conventional full-powered semi-auto rifle.
Also in the Belgian Congo, and afterward when Belgium supported Katanga's failed attempt to secede from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (And the UN then idiotically insisted that Katanga had to remain part of Congo. Because for some reason the arbitrary borders imposed by the 19th century colonizers needed to be kept intact, even though it meant that groups who violently hate each other have to be in the same country and ruled by a dictator.)
Very nice rifle, I have not seen the semi version at the shops and gun shows in a long time now 😮 please do a video of you firing it on auto. I’m wondering how controllable or not controllable it is.
There was an Argentinian Navy one for sale at a shop near me for ~$550 around 2mo back. I can't remember if it was in .308 or 7.5x53 Argentine, but still kicking myself for not just grabbing it as a cool piece of history.
@@sentinel7122 I was just reading about those, it was mostly likely 308 and that is a great price since Nagonts run for $500 now 🙁 if it was 7.5x53 ammo is hard to find
@@timumbra2476 lol dude I know... it was listed and sold in a few days' time so I missed out. Turns out it was an Argentinian-rechambered .308 after checking my search history, and apparently they did a pretty good job of it back then. If I hadn't just ordered a bunch of parts/optics I'd have jumped on it for sure.
@@sentinel7122 Very, very few Argentine Navy FN-49s escaped conversion to 7.62x51, and most of those are in museums. I'm not sure if any of them in the original 7.65x53 were ever imported to the US (assuming that's where you live). But I'd consider the 7.62 conversions with their 20-round mag to be the most desirable from a shooting perspective, because the ammo is so easily available. And $550 was *really* good price assuming there were no missing or broken parts.
@@giobenve Interesting, thanks for the information. What I meant was, that full auto was found to be unusable by the military, it's more practical in semi auto.
Lol yeah practicality of 10 rounds is one maybe two pulls of that trigger. But you need to wonder about the lack of a 30 round magazine and why it wasn’t done. A puzzle indeed
I have the semi auto version. The recoil is insane. They are so loud people give you dirty looks on a long gun range, lol. Can’t imagine firing it full auto.
What's the point of a selector that can only be operated by a tool? Regardless of wether the soldier cheated or not, it's just a level of inconvenience to allow automatic fire whos' effect is questionable anyway? Thanks for the content
Good morning from Canada. Amazing video, I thoroughly enjoyed it, I had to rewind three times to get a good look at the details of that really cool mechanism (my favourite part of the video) it sounds like the AFN was just as difficult to control and useless in full auto as the M1.🇧🇲🇨🇦❤️
It's called an arms race. Semi auto better than bolt action, auto better than semi. The logic is pretty simple to see. You can't send your kids to class with last week's tech or they're going to be picked on. Same goes for soldiers and pride of nations. Of course our rigles have full auto capabilities, you think we're some lame duck?
The Argentine contract with 7mm Mauser, would have been far more controllable than the 30-06 or 8mm Mauser varieties and the Argentine contract had removable 20 round magazines. That said I don't remember if Argentina ordered any of the AFN-49s.
They were designed by the same guy, after all. Dieudonne Saive was working on them in parallel, with the FN-49 being the culmination of his experimental work for Britain on a semi-automatic rifle during WW2 (chambered in 7.92x57, because that's what Britain was already using for their BESA machine guns), and the FAL being an evolution of his 1946 assault rifle prototype (chambered in 7.92x33, as a placeholder for whatever would be adopted post-WW2).
At least the SKS uses an intermediate cartridge, so there's half a chance of actually something in full auto. I can imagine this would be only mildly more controllable than an M14 in full auto, but with half the ammo capacity.
Kind'a strange, that magazines ware not replaced with larger ones. It's like "we can and we will make them full auto capable, but really, you just need to lock the fire selector in SA mode with the screw and leave it this way".
It reminds me a bit of the early Lee-Enfield bolt-action rifles, which used magazines but were not issued with spares. They had magazine cutoff levers, which could be seen by the squad commander, to enforce single shot operation.
Large mags don't play well with stripper clips. There would have had to be a modification to the mag well and latch, and possibly even the action itself, to take a removable mag. There was really no customer interest in spending the money to make the changes -- those who wanted multiple mags bought the FAL.
FN probably knew that a full automatic battle rifle was impractical. And would never be used. So why make an unnecessary change to either the rifle or production line.
They should’ve just registered them as Machine Guns But guess what The aft and irs are equally uncool Still a REALLY NICE Gun though I’m DEFINITELY Gonna look for one of these BEAUTIFUL Rifles ✊🤟👍💯🔥👌
It's interesting how they built all these full or near full-powered cartridge automatic rifles post-war and did a lot of testing and evaluation before putting them into service and then virtually immediately afterward realised full auto + full power cartridge was a bad idea in the context of a shoulder arm. It makes you wonder why no one pointed this out before putting them in service.
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Ah yes. A. The most famous gun in the world.
Imagine of Ian knew and he just did that to troll us
Better watch out for it’s terrifying brother. B.
AHHHHHHHHHH
@robertmcfarland1816 The A tech
Fun fact: It’s top of many many lists.
A. Just A. Brilliant
I have one of the 2200 Neutered Luxembourg AFN’s, Exl shooter!
Is that in 30-06?
@@george2113 Yes, all Luxembourg FN-49s were in .30-06.
@@RedXlV then it's better than a Garand in many ways. More capacity and not limited to derated M1 ball. As well as better ergonomics. Unfortunately my eyes can't use iron sights anymore.
FN49 3006 is my favourite rifle in my collection
"A"
it makes you wander if the AFN would be more popular if had a 30 hounds magazine
It'd still be wildly uncontrollable. Maybe if you doubled the weight and put it on a bipod.
With a flick of the switch, you can unleash the hounds of war....
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One day there will be so many wacky gun names, that we'll refer to the best ones as A, B, C, as counterculture.
At first glance I read an-94 for some reason lol
Taking “minute of man” to a new level
Sweetest words in the episode "this was before the ATF existed.." 😉
Good candidate for 2 round burst and definitely detachable mags.
Very interesting weapon. I wonder how many made it to the U.S. with no one know about the full auto switch?
Thanks for the great content
The granpappy to the FN/SLR
So locking features is not a new thing. Maybe some AFN saw action in the Congo Crisis.
the military museum in belgium has in my opinion best collection of historical stuf in the world, from one of the only untouched ww1 british tanks left to 10-30 stg44 5 orso fg42s etc
And all of the nice pieces that are not exposed. In the reserves... so many cool weapons.
Plus the airplanes.
@@AxLWake yeah lots of stuf is stored in the back!
Yes was there 05. Cover was free!! Amazing the sheer quantity of stuff you find there. Even better than imperial war museum I'd say. However, aircraft and armor vehicles seemed a bit neglected.
@@vannguyen-ze8iu some of the stuf indeed is a bit worn and left to rot it seems like
But it is exspensive to keep a museum like that ofc
Also check out the army museum in Copenhagen Denmark ,a guide told me they have around 5,000 small arms only half on show ,good museum .
NCO: "Private Sjefke, do not the Full Auto!"
Private Sjefke: 😐...🤔...📎
ahem.... "A"
Do a video about the og 43
wow... that's such a simple selector mechanism!
.30-06, 10 round fixed mag fed by 5 round strippers, cyclic rate north of 650 RPMs, traditional stocked rifle under 10 pounds - that's a real "Yee-HAW! Hold my ale!" moment, I'm sure. 😂
The locking system for the selector seems totally impractical for a service weapon, in the field the thing will have to be kept unlocked all the time otherwise what’s the point of having a ‘select fire’ option in the first place?
I think the idea was that you could have just one standard rifle and some troops would be trained to use it in full auto and others would not and you could restrict the use of full auto (by mechanical means) to those who were qualified.
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Immediate apology for this bit on my part, "unmolested" for guns that should be full auto and are vs "molested" for guns that should be full auto but that ability has been taken away from them, could work("unneutered" and "neutered" are still valid alternatives). As for private Snuffy, if he were in a (theoretical) slav army, he'd either learn to use full auto properly or he'd perish from all the batine(beatings) he'd be getting for improper use.
On the other hand, the rule of "full auto - lightweight - full power cartridge, you can pick 2 but never all 3 of them" still applies to this gun. Perhaps a custom chassis(with vfg, pistol grip and larger mag) it could work, barely.
"revisionist history" in physical form.
@@precisedime1377 To be frank, "batine" was a favored and frequent punishment in the serbian/later yugoslavian army around ww1/post it, not sure for how long it stuck around.
Edit to add: for a minute, didn't get the "revisionist history" bit, silly me.
I wonder why the British bothered tested this?
They has converted a ZH29 and a gas trap Garand to full automatic in 1939; and found them to be uncontrollable.
An FN pew-pew with a lot more pew-pew per minute. ^~^
The title card seem to only have "A" as the title 🤔🤔
Dang ole private snuffy, and his tomfoolery.
I feel as if making the selection of a select fire weapon's firing mode an armourer-level process implies that someone had to have known this was a bad idea.
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Ah yes, The "A". The Grandfather of the FAL
Father. They were even in production at the same time.
You can see how it progressed! That's the A in FAL. wow they grow up so fast
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my grandfather shot one of these during his luxembourg army service years. he said it was absolutly unusable in fullauto
Hard to control in rapid fire.
@@ohyeahgamer3736Same with the M1.
Plus only 10 rounds and they didn't add detachable magazines. I would imagine a 10 round fully auto weapon is completely useless. You'd only have three trigger pulls at most if you were very disciplined.
As are most fully auto rifles chambered in full size cartridges.
I’m sure everyone was just *stunned* by that development
The unintended import of the Luxembourg Gendarmerie rifles into the US is a remarkable historical anecdote that shows the intricacies of firearm regulation in the past. Thanks for sharing this piece of firearms history with us.
And how it used to be handled with common sense. Sadly in the US, the ATF in many cases has evolved into nothing more than a criminal gang.
Yes, that was specifically really cool and all the history generally is always enjoyable.
@@Jreb1865I don't know about "criminal gang" but we need a return to common sense firearm regulations, here too🇨🇦
@@bobhill3941definitely a criminal gang, actively only targeting private citizens minding their own business instead of going after real criminals causing actual crime
@@bobhill3941they directly oppose the letter of the law on the regular, intimidate people to take their stuff. Lie to Congress, pretty criminal
Stripper clip loading, 10 round, 30-06, full auto. Yeah, sounds totally practical.
@@rdrrrFrom horseback.
Cei-Rigotti vibes here
Damn when you say it like that it makes the enbloc eight rounds sound intelligent?
You are basically just describing the Canadian version of the FAL.
I can see why they required a tool to unlock the fun switch. There's basically no situation in which it'd be actually useful.
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I've always loved the look of the FN49 design. I think it's even nicer looking than our Garand. A detachable 20 round mag would have made it more useful as a military rifle
The Argentine navy converted theirs to 7.62 and used FALmags
@@vincentmueller3717 Sounds like a great idea
@@vincentmueller3717 Not FAL mags, it was a unique 20-round 7.62 mag. Somewhat longer and narrower than the FAL mag. I assume the using actual FAL mags, which would've been obviously advantageous to a nation using the FAL, wasn't feasible for whatever reason.
I had an Egyptian contract FN-49 in 8mm Mauser. With the recoil from the 8mm, I could never imagine the muzzle rise in full auto.
And yes I've fired a M-14 in full auto.
I have an Egyptian in freshly rebuilt condition with new-looking stock. For some reason unbeknownst to me, the Egyptians are known as the ''least desirable''!?!. I got mine from a friend who disassembled it, couldn't put it back together. So he brought it to me, and I put it back together for him. He disassembled it again, couldn't put it back together again, brought it to me again, and GAVE me the rifle!
@@pb68slab18 Mine was the same. arsenal refurbished. It looked factory new. Being a young engineering student, the first chance I got, I stripped the rifle down and removed all the grease and re-oiled and greased everything. I don't remember any especially complex reassembly issues. But you were able to complete the task, so, it wasn't a fit issue. I had alot of fun with the FN-49. Maybe I'll get another in the future.
@@pb68slab18 Did you get the Egyptian from a pyramid? 😉
I once owned an FN49 in 8mm mauser. It was one of the most well made weapons I have ever owned. The fit and machining were outstsnding for a military rifle. Im sure it was very costly to make. FN has always made high quality weapons.
Once? Dont tell me you sold it off?!?!? Bob No!
I remember seeing them advertised in an old American Rifleman magazine from the 60's they were like 50 bucks mailed right to your door. I always wanted one but they cost a lot more than 50 bucks now...
I hope you got a chance to enjoy target shooting or hunting with it.
I just picked one up in 8mm this Tuesday, a huge crack in the stock is keeping me from shooting it. It's reassuring knowing that everyone who has owned one loved it.
@@bigbugg92 Congratulations, I hope you can fix the stock and find 8mm hunting ammunition.
I'll be willing to bet that thousands of collectors are pulling their old FN-49's out of the safe checking for grinding marks or the remnants of those two marks as soon as the video ended ! 🤣
Ian I know this is off topic but I just did my Responder 1 class with Refuge Medical yesterday. I learned about them thanks to you and the class was amazing. I learned a great deal and feel better prepared. I just wanted to say thanks for bringing them to my attention.
I used your code for the discount by the way.
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It wouldn't be difficult for a soldier to find a tool that would allow the full auto function but it would make it very difficult for the private to claim it happened by accident. That may very well have been the thinking.
One of the first things I learned in the military....
"Sir, it was like that when I got here."
Flat blade screwdriver modified too suit.
At time 6:37 you start to explain what trips the safety sear in full auto mode. You state that a lug on the bolt does the tripping. This is incorrect. According to the Fabrique Nationale Model 49 Self-Loading Rifle manual "The safety sear is then pushed forwards by the bolt carrier...". This similar to how the FN FAL works. Part of the "conversion" to semiautomatic only was the the removal of the lug on the bolt carrier that trips the safety sear. A number of years ago either SARCO or Gun Parts offer the parts for select fire for these rifles.
This must've been the guerilla Hololive crossover episode.
always loved these old guns wish FN would bring them back as part of a retro line. whish they would bring back the FAL as well.
No high capacity magazines was drawback IMHO.
For 1949, 10 rounds is pretty high capacity.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Not really if you consider that the FAL was only a few years away.
@@sbreheny like I said, in the context of 1949. I don't even think the gun goes into production until 1953?
@@sbrehenyThe FN-49 was made by the same person that made the FAL how could it be made first.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Saive was actively working on the FAL at the same time he was finishing the FN-49. With the FN-49, he was completing his wartime work on what the British had designated SLEM-1. But at the time, the FAL prototypes were chambered in 7.92x33mm and 7x43mm, so adapting a FAL magazine to it wasn't exactly an option. By the time the 7.62x51 FAL existed, the FN-49 was already in production with its fixed 10-round mag. At the time the FN-49's design was completed, the assumption was that the FAL would be an assault rifle firing an intermediate cartridge, and the FN-49 would be for anybody who wanted a more conventional full-powered semi-auto rifle.
I had such rifle during my service in the Belgian Army 1967-1968. The issue was the loading lever that was on the left side, not very handy
The AFN's did see quite some battle experience in Korea with the BUNC (Belgian United Nations Command ) together with the FN Model D ( BAR Rifle ).
Also in the Belgian Congo, and afterward when Belgium supported Katanga's failed attempt to secede from the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
(And the UN then idiotically insisted that Katanga had to remain part of Congo. Because for some reason the arbitrary borders imposed by the 19th century colonizers needed to be kept intact, even though it meant that groups who violently hate each other have to be in the same country and ruled by a dictator.)
Very nice rifle, I have not seen the semi version at the shops and gun shows in a long time now 😮 please do a video of you firing it on auto. I’m wondering how controllable or not controllable it is.
There was an Argentinian Navy one for sale at a shop near me for ~$550 around 2mo back. I can't remember if it was in .308 or 7.5x53 Argentine, but still kicking myself for not just grabbing it as a cool piece of history.
@@sentinel7122 I was just reading about those, it was mostly likely 308 and that is a great price since Nagonts run for $500 now 🙁 if it was 7.5x53 ammo is hard to find
@@sentinel7122should of bought it man
@@timumbra2476 lol dude I know... it was listed and sold in a few days' time so I missed out. Turns out it was an Argentinian-rechambered .308 after checking my search history, and apparently they did a pretty good job of it back then. If I hadn't just ordered a bunch of parts/optics I'd have jumped on it for sure.
@@sentinel7122 Very, very few Argentine Navy FN-49s escaped conversion to 7.62x51, and most of those are in museums. I'm not sure if any of them in the original 7.65x53 were ever imported to the US (assuming that's where you live). But I'd consider the 7.62 conversions with their 20-round mag to be the most desirable from a shooting perspective, because the ammo is so easily available. And $550 was *really* good price assuming there were no missing or broken parts.
NICE BOOM STICK BORTHER
DOG BLESS
We need more stories of Private Snuffy! Did he go on to join the Elbonian armed forces?
Yes!
02:11 when someone asks who sang Take On Me, during the museum tour.
The wheelbarrow from a monopoly set would work as the gunsmiths tool!
The hammer and sear design is very garand-like. Was Saive maybe cribbing notes a little bit?
The furniture is drop dead beautiful 👍
AFN49 are quite common and relatively cheap here in Italy for some reason. Unfortunately the full auto mode is internally disabled due to italian law.
That makes sense since it makes it unusable. I hope they're a fair price.
@bobhill3941 well, non unusable, just semiauto only. They go for around 800 euro. The native semiauto FN49, like the Egyptian contract, for less
@@giobenve Interesting, thanks for the information. What I meant was, that full auto was found to be unusable by the military, it's more practical in semi auto.
@bobhill3941 yes, I guess the full auto mode doesn't have a reason to be in that rifle
@@giobenve Yes, that's all I meant.
Lol yeah practicality of 10 rounds is one maybe two pulls of that trigger. But you need to wonder about the lack of a 30 round magazine and why it wasn’t done. A puzzle indeed
...Saive's name is pronounced 'sev'...I was corrected by none other than Dave Salvagggio himself at one of the SHOT Shows un the mid/late 90s..
Ian can you please make a shoutout to SMG gunworks? They are doing a second run of rp-46 adaptation kits and only need 25 more orders.
Pvt Snuffy liberated that armorers tool right fast
...the hammer following the bolt would have been my question
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This could not have been uploaded at a better time. I was literally trying to find a video on this gun last night
I have the semi auto version. The recoil is insane. They are so loud people give you dirty looks on a long gun range, lol. Can’t imagine firing it full auto.
That trigger group is very reminiscent of modern M4 trigger system.
What's the point of a selector that can only be operated by a tool? Regardless of wether the soldier cheated or not, it's just a level of inconvenience to allow automatic fire whos' effect is questionable anyway? Thanks for the content
Good morning from Canada. Amazing video, I thoroughly enjoyed it, I had to rewind three times to get a good look at the details of that really cool mechanism (my favourite part of the video) it sounds like the AFN was just as difficult to control and useless in full auto as the M1.🇧🇲🇨🇦❤️
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Private Snuffy, always ruining the fun for everyone!
Is it just me or were your hands dirty after handle those rifle innards? Looked like more than stale gun oil?
We shall now call screwdrivers or pliers Fun Enabling Tools
It's called an arms race. Semi auto better than bolt action, auto better than semi. The logic is pretty simple to see. You can't send your kids to class with last week's tech or they're going to be picked on. Same goes for soldiers and pride of nations. Of course our rigles have full auto capabilities, you think we're some lame duck?
Does anyone else wonder why they decided to make it possible to lock it also in full auto position?
A full auto rifle with a 10 round mag was surely useless.
Because you know what sounds like a great idea with only 10 rounds of a full sized cartridge with no bipod and a traditional stock? Full auto.
A phenomenal rifle I own one however the 8mm chambering is a headache it’s difficult to find good ammo for it, I yearn for one in 30-06
The Yugo surplus from the 70's is good. Prvi Partizan makes a good commercial 8x57mm
Yep, I bought many cases of it in the 90s when the getting was good.@@RobinRobertsesq
The Argentine contract with 7mm Mauser, would have been far more controllable than the 30-06 or 8mm Mauser varieties and the Argentine contract had removable 20 round magazines. That said I don't remember if Argentina ordered any of the AFN-49s.
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I had two semi-auto for the Argentine Navy in7.62mm X 51mm .
Magazine?
I see new Forgotten Weapons video.
I watch new Forgotten Weapons video.
It's a wonderful relationship.
Looking at the AFN-49, I think I can see some of the genetics of the FAL. Any one else think the same?
It is indeed the "father" of the FAL in many respects.
Gas plug, foresight, dust cover, ...
I didn't think it was just me
Both designed by Dieudonné Saive
They were designed by the same guy, after all. Dieudonne Saive was working on them in parallel, with the FN-49 being the culmination of his experimental work for Britain on a semi-automatic rifle during WW2 (chambered in 7.92x57, because that's what Britain was already using for their BESA machine guns), and the FAL being an evolution of his 1946 assault rifle prototype (chambered in 7.92x33, as a placeholder for whatever would be adopted post-WW2).
Tricking the AI to think A is friendly
Makes as much sense as trying to make a SKS full auto.
I mean it can't be as bad as the rage-inducing Type 63.
you can make a SKS full auto and have it take AK magazines
At least the SKS uses an intermediate cartridge, so there's half a chance of actually something in full auto. I can imagine this would be only mildly more controllable than an M14 in full auto, but with half the ammo capacity.
Yes back when you could down convert MG’s… really shows how much the ATF and congress has chipped away at the block.
Kind'a strange, that magazines ware not replaced with larger ones. It's like "we can and we will make them full auto capable, but really, you just need to lock the fire selector in SA mode with the screw and leave it this way".
It reminds me a bit of the early Lee-Enfield bolt-action rifles, which used magazines but were not issued with spares. They had magazine cutoff levers, which could be seen by the squad commander, to enforce single shot operation.
Large mags don't play well with stripper clips. There would have had to be a modification to the mag well and latch, and possibly even the action itself, to take a removable mag.
There was really no customer interest in spending the money to make the changes -- those who wanted multiple mags bought the FAL.
FN probably knew that a full automatic battle rifle was impractical. And would never be used. So why make an unnecessary change to either the rifle or production line.
Looking on this tricky selector, you can understand how much changed the philosophy of modern warfare.
Ian you are an inspiration, the educational content you provide is filling.
They should’ve just registered them as Machine Guns
But guess what
The aft and irs are equally uncool
Still a REALLY NICE Gun though
I’m DEFINITELY Gonna look for one of these BEAUTIFUL Rifles
✊🤟👍💯🔥👌
That would have cost $200 per gun which in the 60s was probably more than the guns were selling for.
@@sbreheny yeah
But it would still be nice if they just left them as Machine Guns 👌👍
Going from the IRS to the ATF was like Germany going from the Kaiser to the Fuhrer... 💀
Can you do a video on the Swedish AK-5C, please?
It's interesting how they built all these full or near full-powered cartridge automatic rifles post-war and did a lot of testing and evaluation before putting them into service and then virtually immediately afterward realised full auto + full power cartridge was a bad idea in the context of a shoulder arm. It makes you wonder why no one pointed this out before putting them in service.
Probably figured it'd be like the BREN and BAR that were shoulder fired in full power cartridges
@@Coconut-219 you mean AR-10? The monitor was a BAR and had pretty much zero relation to the AR-15
I own one of 2203 Luxembourg contract AFNs. Didn't realize it was originally an AFN before viewing this video. Thanks!
I wish that a US manufacturer would start producing a copy of the FN 49's like DS Arms does with the FAL. Or FN USA would start producing them.
AFN-49, it's Belgian for M-14! Actually, this is a lot sillier with the magazine. The FN-49 was a great rifle, but the AFN was a dubious idea.
Which caliber FN, 30-06, 8mm, 7mm, 308 is the most functional for cycling?
Didn't Argentina make an ASAFN in 7.62x51 with a 20 round magazine?
Mag dump in one second "the AFN-49 If you absolutely have to kill every motherfucker in the room!"