Eric Sukumaran | Partition of India Debate | Opposition (2/6)
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Thursday 1st March 2018.
The Motion: This House Regrets The Partition of India.
Eric Sukumaran opens the case for the opposition, as the second speaker of six in the debate.
Motion Carried.
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as posh as this guy sounds, at least he can pronounce those Indian names properly!
Ikramul Hoque his grandfather migrated so he's 3rd generation immigrant it's practically impossible for him to have Indian accent
He has no argument at all. He is describing his life and lives of his friends of oxford. that was not the purpose of this debate. This is the worse lecture. He will get a F Grade for this essay.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv for you life doesn't matter
His black beard does not match his black skin.
7:40 When he actually starts to make his case.
Vincent Hitchin yeah wtf he just wated half of my time
Abhishek Zende it's a tradition at the Oxford Union. the first speaker always introduces the opposition
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I hope someday the students from both shores of the Taiwan Strait could debate for and against "Should China and Taiwan be one nation?“。
The worry is that Muslims might ask or try to force another Pakistan but this time in UK ......you can take the pakastani out of Pakistan but you can’t take the desire for an separate Islamic land out of wherever a pakastani be !
Its because no british women wanna get with indian hindu that's why😂😂😂
South Asian have no mental dominancy like white people. South Asian always prefer to be under the rule of someone. You can still see these types of attitude in south asian political system. If a political leader dies, the public themselves make his son/daughter/family members as their new leader irrespective of the newly born leader 😂. We can't blam Britain/France/Dutch for our own inferiority. Ofcource anyone will rule on you if you are weak enough.
Eric you nailed the introduction, all the more respect for you. I learnt how to answer insult with appreciation. 👌
True, Sabriyah had promptly humiliated her 🤣
@@ImranAli-qj4ir He made her laugh instead.
Nobody insulted anyone.. If you haven't heard she too had praised him
Lot of words and so little meaning
I couldn't understand what is proposition's and opposition's position in this debate
aada Paavi, it is about was the partition a success or a failure.
The partition was the last gift to Indian subcontinent from Britain. Some still haven't got over the hangover. But wait actions have consequences, if so the EU will fall from within, to chaos and violence, with confusion and disunity roaming freely.
Time will tell.
Partition was inevitably made to happen by leadership in Britain and self-righteous leaders of Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs. Indians suffered and only suffered.
it was the muslim league who demanded the partition
@Bat Man true
Shut up it was muslim league that divided country
If there had been joint country, definately this area of world would have been more proseperous than we are now as pakistan and india.
Major of outr budgets are dedicated to defence which alternatively would have been used for poverty eleviation and many more.
Mubasher Nazir it seems Pakistan seems to need India, whereas it is quite opposite for the latter whom quite frankly want to brush aside the failed state.
Mubasher Nazir We would be the most powerful country in Asia with geography that may have allowed us to control West, Central and Eastern Asia. India was the centre of the Asian continent hence terms like near east middle east and far east. East is India. But as once Mujibur Rahaman said We don't get always what we want.
I disagree islam cannot co-exist. There would be constant conflicts.
+S Mathias Hinduism can't co-exist either. Those fundamentalists still believe in the caste system and want to enforce a ban on beef and beef products.
Tasin al-hassan: We judge a religion by its scripture not what certain people do, I am not claiming osama bin laden or isis is islam rather i will open the quran and hadiths.
Yes caste system is a problem in Hinduism but the same Hindus because their scripture says that there are different ways to God have adopted democracy and due to this caste system has lost its sting and is growing weaker by the day, for example the pm and president of India are from the lowest caste.Islam doesn't allow reformation so you are stuck as you cannot change.
Poised,Polished,Intellect and confidence all in one!
British Raj policy of rule and divide has resulted in decrease of unity among people in the Indian subcontinent
Let's not just blame the British. The fact is that the British exploited the already existing divisions. Hindus and Muslims have had communal tensions, riots etc since hundreds of years. After the birth of Sikhism, there had been continuous issues between Sikhs and Muslims too. In fact, the very birth of the Khalsa Panth (the warrior sect in Sikhism) happened to fight against the tyranny of the Mughal rulers who would forcibly convert Hindus and Sikhs to Islam.
These are hard facts.. as much as we try to gloss over them and pin the blame solely on the British. The British were a imperial power, they were here to make profits and exploit. That's what they did to the best of their advantage.
I think the partition was ultimately good for India. If they had not separated, you would have been having communal riots every other day, also probably ongoing violent separatist movement.
Then why bangladesh parted way from Pakistan...? Better say Muslim can't live with other
Why call the CORRUPT 17th Century British rule "Raj"?
There has not been a true king in England for MILLENNIA.
Reverend Eslam What?
🤣🤣unity between Hindus and Muslims . There were just Fight.🤣🤣
The partition is not a "wound" on the psyche of any Pakistani. Only Indians regret it.
We regret we gave our land but we are glad we got most of the radicals out.
@@Satu_Supari It's my land not yours. Regardless if we were today part of India or even a British Colony, I would be in the same land my ancestors have been in.... You never lost any land and nor did I gain any. Always been my land.
What about 1971 then....
Technically it may be correct to say that the Maharaja Hari Singh of Jammu & Kashmir did not immediately accede either to India or Pakistan as on the date of Independence. As everyone is aware that the Princely States then existing were given the option either to join India or Pakistan or remain independent if they so desired. Hence it is wrong to say that just the State of Jammu & Kashmir did not join either of these newly born independent countries. It could have perhaps decided either way later or it could have remained independent. Hence in my view it is absolutely wrong to say that Kashmir was up for grabs by India or Pakistan or by both. Subsequent developments are too well known who the real aggressor was and which country the Maharaja acceded to finally. Let no one spread canards.
Not sure where this guy got his facts from, but the king of the state of Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India when Pakistan attacked
Old Songs What do you mean by given? Let's talk on facts and leave the rhetoric.
@@ankitshankar471 only after he was overthrown after decades of oppression with the Muslims starting a revolt to join Pakistan.
A kit. How about some facts?
@@omerashraf9357 oppression was done by peaceful community to sikhs and Sanatan dharmis since ages.
@@stxfdt1240 Read the history of Kashmir. Dogra was unpopular due to his high taxes which made the economic position of muslims pathetic !
We just can't repeat what history has left.
No logic only beautiful verses... Both the Pakistani and Indian speaker.
Wat kind of debate is tat when u hv to read written transcript..
Politically correct debate, Facts distorted. Truth is that Hindu leadership refused to give Constitutional Rights to Minorities proposed under the Cabinet Mission Plan and it resulted in partition of India.
Why should Muslim be given special treatment in the first place.
b) It is safe to say you have yourselves not read Cabinet Mission plan and most of modern history.
U r right dear Nadeem. It was not just cabinet mission plan. Muslims were denied their share of power repeatedly. First of all at the time of Nehru report. Secondly after 1937 ministries and lastly in cabinet mission proceedings Muslim league and British explanation of the draft was repudiated by Nehru and Congress. Muslim league was only left with one option; Federation of Pakistan. Sadly Britishers divided the Punjab, Kashmir and Bengal in most irresponsible manner. Credit goes to Gandhi and Suharwardi for keeping peace in Bengal. Discredit goes to Mountbatten, Menon and Patel/Nehru for occupying Kashmir and then backing off their promises at UN.
Kashmir is integral part of India.....and if u want peace then pakistan should be broken in 4 states as they were before partition.....
Kashmir is forever part of Pakistan.
ISIS is in India in Hindu form, called Modi and BJP
TheClubshaker just accept the truth and stop blaming politicians
@@kaalbhairav8700 I don't want to seem like a dick or anything... but why do you want to force unwilling people into your country? It sounds sorta ironically colonial😂
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May I recommend a book
Heartbreak Passage
by Lambert Mascarenhas at age 100
now 106
from Goa in India
He is the oldest Freedom Fighter of Portuguese Goa
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Hats off to the British for liberalizing the education establishments enough, that what was not possible till as recently as 2 generations ago - 2 non-caucasian women with saris taking the chairs at Oxford Union, is possible today. We hope that in the spirit of progress this practice continues!
They're not as liberal; but they're not un-productive... it's fight for social influence; still a fight.
He is so true, today’s India don’t allow debates,
@@IKhan-yq2qp yep, they just end up lighting neighborhoods on fire like in Bengaluru and Delhi
There used to be debates far back during time of adi shankrachary , chankya etc. The whole of karnataka was converted from jainism to hinduism through such debates. A famous debate which lead to restablishment of hinduism from buddhism took place between adi shankracharya and mandan mishr. So stop peddling lies and don't be so thankful to the british. They did no favour on india by reintroducing their "western" values and ethics . British were responsible for jalianwala bagh . Overnight massacre of 2000 pow of azad hind fauz. People like you are reason why india doesn't concentrate more on economic and social developement and instead focus more on ranking introduced by western nations.
@@IKhan-yq2qp there is a saying in sanskrit which translates like " only water a blossoming plant and use a dried up tree for firewood". Debate can only take place between two learned people. Not between a hindu and follower of child rapists pedophile muhammad.
Still wondering why all the speakers in the panel whether for or against the proposition except the Sabriya are of Indian Origin or nationality?
Because this is Oxford, one of the world's most prestigious universities.
Sabriya too is of Indian origin!
Had Partition not happened India would have been become Islamic country .
No one regrets Buddy except the one who suffered
There was this article in the Financial Times that posited that Oxford Union alumni has wrecked the Britain and British politics. I wondered how...
There are those who might wonder how some have wondered how about the Oxford Union alumni.
Mr. Sukumaran makes many good points in his speech! However, while his points are stylish they lack in substance.
Ms. Saeed did not advocate the re-unification of India and Pakistan. She just cited that partition was a bad plan based on a bad idea.
If both Pakistan and Bangladesh were peaceful and viable nations, their secession from India may make sense. Yet that is hardly the case. Bangladesh is not doing too badly but that is because it is surrounded by India and the Bay of Bengal. Bangladesh allows India to take care of its external security, external trade, and its foreign policy needs.
Pakistan is bankrupt and is a total failed state. It too has secession issues as the people in the provinces of K.P., Sindh, Balochistan, Gilgit-Baltistan, and POK no longer want to remain in Pakistan. Pakistan in its current form cannot go on like this forever. Eventually it will have to let India take over Gilgit-Baltistan, POK and its other territories, Afghanistan to take over K.P. province, Iran to take over Balochistan, and finally allow the provinces of Punjab and Sindh to become autonomous republics.
There really is no other way.
What is the significance of "United States of India" ?
There were many heavy words and a light content
Very eloquent
I don't understand one thing. These Oxford graduates are reading from their scripts word for word. They are constantly looking at their written speeches. Students from not so prestigious universities can present without referring to their notes and do so quite effectively. I do understand using notes as reminders when presenting but not reading the speech verbatim. Why are they doing it? May this is a tradition that I am unware of that someone can shed some light on.
seems like
winston churcil held the conference of partition in uk😂
Expected a much better response tbh. But his position is like- whatever happened has happened, accept it.
The debate is on was it right or wrong that happened? Tbh, i am bit confused about the motion after his speech.
The partition pushed back my country Bangladesh like 20-30 years behind and it took a long time for us to regenerate our strength.
If the debate was on 1970- would he propose to accept our fate and go on with the partition with all those oppression?
17 min of pure crap in British accent. He infact mispoke his actual argument.
Jeez, tough crowd
Guys in comment section, chill. I don’t think he supports partition. This is just a competitive debate.
6.56 is something we would do in school
The fact that people think its all linear makes me laugh. Its a cycle the bloody thing about time and history they show themselves again and again in a karmik way. Everything indians faced and made to forget and forgive. The current generation is opening those chapters and wounds.they are in no thought of forgiveness.
He read practically his entire presentation.
Interesting, if unusual.
13.00
Britain lost of its 13 colonies
Robert Mitchell without death of 1 million people.. And displacement..
Robert Mitchell, Britain got rid of Pariahs!!!!
@Mohini S I wonder if the workers in Birmingham or Manchester or in the mines of Wales are living "a luxurious life"...
lol i wouldnt quote bobby kennedy if i were him..bad analogy.
If it has subtitle in English .it will be better
Whatever this gentleman said completely undone by current modi govt.
Keep crying
Lot of common sense in his arguments. And potentially a great solution. Unfortunately in today's day and age, there is disparity across the borders. A country suffering terrorism from within, and a country on the path of economic revival and greatness. Truce is only possible if they are equals. I see misguided narrative in Pak, no focus on real issues, and no concrete development. Unless the people become more educated, and are willing to look beyond the religious context, and more towards social and economic development, these kind of settlements will have to wait.
Better to collapse pakistan again than integrate into India. Bangladesh is friendlier to India and better off than pakistan. Correct template to follow to be honest.
The speakers continually forget that Undivided India is now India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.....I don't know why Bangladesh, which has a larger muslim population than Pakistan and an economy which is almost as big as Pakistan's US$300 billion has been completely sidelined in the debate......shows that all the debaters have brought their prejudices with them to the Oxford Union debate. Very poor! Thumbs down!
4:47
Tharkey
All land of today's Pakistan actually belong to us.......our own mother land.....bina Sindh ke kaisa hind??? ........we will take back this land at any cost......whatever the consequences........we deny foolish partition by nehru and jinnah.......border line is not god given stuff but it was man made foolish thing..........the future of today's Pakistan only with us .........tomorrow the entire world see once again .....united India alongwith Pakistan and Bangladesh too
if you ignore the title of this video including all the introduction and jump straight to listening what this guy says, you'll definitely think this guy is against partition
FarcodeMusic yes, that is the point he has to debate against. It might not be his personal point of view.
South Asian have no mental dominancy like white people. South Asian always prefer to be under the rule of someone. You can still see these types of attitude in south asian political system. If a political leader dies, the public themselves make his son/daughter/family members as their new leader irrespective of the newly born leader 😂. We can't blam Britain/France/Dutch for our own inferiority. Ofcource anyone will rule on you if you are weak enough.
Prince of Kashmir want to join to India , India never grabbed it
Let there be a peaceful exchange of population between India and Pakistan. All Muslims should go to Pakistan and Bangladesh in exchange for all non-Muslims of Pakistan and Bangladesh (East Pakistan before). When Pakistan was made for the Muslims only, there should not be any Muslims in India which should be only for the non-Muslims. That will also solve the Kashmir problem as the non-Muslims of Kalas, Chittral, Kafiristan, Hunza valleys can come to India and stay in the Indian part of Kashmir.
Unfortunately we had Nehru and Ambedkar who imposed secularism on us ignoring the historical fact of the partition of India based on religion.
He does not know that at first Kashmir wanted to be independent but acceded to India soon after Pakistan attacked it? Whose side are you arguing for?
Modi and RSS prove partition is correct and right demand of Muslim League , the only bad thing is it is happens wrongly. People of Kashmir does not get right of self determination and also Sikh does not get there separate homeland. So despite these issues Partition is the only survivor of Minorities in southasia. Other wise RSS Bakhts does not sapare any one.
No sikh wants a separate land . It's not mentioned in our holy book neither said by any guru ji . Shame on you
@@criscrosxxx if our brother Sikhs have there own country 1984 Sikh massacre never happens.
@@criscrosxxx Sikhs are great and they deserve a seperate country.
@Vivek Kamble Sikhs are welcome to visit there nanka which is Lahore whenever they like to come but capital of khalistan will be Amritsar , great city of HarmandarSahib
You can only do is shit
wtf is Sukkmran. Its Su-kumaran two different words with individual meaning
This is Ash from C4ETech
1:09 you're aware
Maharaja NS Sarila, who was the ADC of the last three Vice-Roys of India wrote in his book that in 1934 the British had decided to create a separate country where the British Army would stay in case India would get independence. The British army would secure the route from SuezCanal to Australia and also they resist the entry of the Soviet Union in the Middle East.The British employed three agents Gandhi, Jinnah and Ambedkar io execute their plan. Gandhi refused to accomodate Fazal Ul Haq of Bengal, Allah Bux of Sindh, Sikander Hyat Khan of Punjab, Khan Abdul Gaffer Khan of NWFP and Khan of Kalat of Balochistan. Ambedkar was against the freedom of India always. Jinah was promoted by the British.Gandhi even in 1943 prepared a Partition Plan. He gladly accepted the British proposal without any opposition.
This guy calls himself educated, but comes from the leftish snowflake view. Does he even know Indian history?. No, Kashmir acceded to India, but Pakistan invaded. That is what is POK. Nehru created article 370 without an act of parliament, but to appease the people as a temporary measure. These people want to dictate history to appease everyone without understanding the foundations for this. Maybe many people should understand our own history, and realise Hindu, a geographical term, by the Persians, did not represent us. The British called us Hindoos. We were Vedic, and became Hindu after the British came. Indians really need to understand their history before we end up in wars that Abrahamic religion fought for centuries. We are a way of life, not a religion, That is why , Indian civilisation succeeded so long.
absolutely correct, I totally Agree with U
Bangladesh regrets the partition .
people have accepted partition... and so does the fact that J&K is an integral part of India... Its only our western/northern neighbours who are having problem adjusting to it...
We are against the Partition as we have lost our home & land in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh;;) . The Politicians may say many things , but we , the distressed only FEEL THE AGONY . THE POLITICIANS(NEHRU & JINNAH) GAINED A LOT , RIDING THE SACRIFICE OF I N A
If there will no partation bharat will be the strongest in the world.british influence the nehru and jinha to be separate leader div.and rule policy works .
There was no divide and rule policy.
@@user-ox5jz8ld5p ???
Discussion made by those idiots who are living on that very soil which looted India. They abandoned their homeland and now discussing partition that they never witnessed. Some bleak memories of their heritage is their pain but pain is living on that soil and make that india stand once again. I can never respect the land which destroyed us. This is a british man not Indian
This young man makes a passionate speak about the open wound of partition but forgets that India NEVER accepted Pakitan as an entity. Look what they did to Jaswant Singh for praising Jinnah in his book. Anyone who praises Jinnah or Pakistan is immediately expelled and made a pariah. Change this mentality first.
India accepts Pakistan as a nation except some akhand Bharat Fanatics. That said India doesn't believe Pakistan is divided in a right way. No nation should be formed based on Religion color creed or caste. I have my complaints with Pakistani mentality too and I have plethora of examples to back it up. but I don't want to open another front for nation bashing in a British channel, whose nation is the primary culprit through and through.
Jjkhjgkjhkjb hgjhghnjn Shut you mouth. Israel was created in name of religion u moron. Go and spend some time in library reading good books than watching your stupid TV channels who just peddle hate.
Before you open up your fucked up filthy mouth again go and read the official stand of India on Israel. They always supported Palestinian cause and they even do it today. We are not hypocrites we stand by our ideals. I say it again NO COUNTRY SHOULD BE FORMED ON RELIGIOUS LINES.
Jjkhjgkjhkjb hgjhghnjn well Israel was created on religious/ethnic ground so what u r saying is just plain stupid.
@Kaatni
So you are saying Pakistan = Israel.
British backed Jinnah for the partition, so Britain was the actual mastermind...This man didn't mentioned Britain role in partition. An Indian origin British man is speaking half truths, so basically it's a propaganda video from Britain. Britain is the most selfish nation in the world, they played the card of religion to rule India causing lots of bloodbath of Indian citizens, they looted our citizens by taxes, they took our ancient monuments which are in the museums there (which looks like chorbazar in London).
Bullshit.
Sir
Only they divide Punjabi &Banagli not all
Brithish kill us divide us beause we only stand against them
So please do not say partation of india
Say partation of punjab and Bengale
Raj Singh Tamils began first Indian organised rebellion against British in vellore hundred years before Sepoy mutiny Kannada Queen Chennamma was first to fight British hundred years before Rani Jhansi Laxmi bai .Kannada Hindus and Kannada muslims were the greatest fighters against British under Tippu sultan even used rockets for first timeThe British feared South Indian Mysore ruler Tippu more than any Indian king or nawab Many many more examples of South Indians fighting British tooth and nail are there
Don’t take a punjabi Bengali centric view of India as seen in bollywood ,North Indian text books etc widen your horizon to include south also
South had Hindu rulers like Vijayanagar Wodeyar kingdom Travancore kingdom for a long time and thus percentage of Muslim
Population was not very high .hence there was no question of partition of south on religious lines
Did UK accept Irish terms.? Did they start talk with irish even when bombings were happening in UK.. no. So how could you accept india to do so.. from past 30 years since their jihaad was formed & unleashed on us.. we talked but have kargil parliament attack 26/11 still these voices want us talk... remember you along with us & nato invaded afganistan.. thank us that we didnt did so....
It is great that partition happened, with too much muslims , it would have been difficult to develop India as muslims care more about ideology rather than developement
his way of reading is like song, I love it!
I vote no
That Reagan quote was out of context and made a bad speech ever worse, stop trying to make yourself sparkle and instead, focus on the gist and the predicate on which your argument and logic is based on.
atleast he was far far better than that women in proposition 1
no he wasnt hahahahah
@@ali-t6485 yes he was, that first bitch didn't even have anything to say, so she started insulting the opposition on personal grounds and his age lol
Hindus and Muslims are living in peace and give there life's for the independence as much as Mr. Gandhi.this country belong to Muslims as it belong to Hindus and Sikhs. It's all British game.that we are not in peace.
The need of the hour is to analyze the current history.
These researchers must understand that India was not divided on 15th August 1947. In fact we were united into two separate dominions. Remember, earlier we were never united. We were broken into several kingdoms. Don't call it partition, call it rather unification of kingdoms into two separate nations, which we never were in the long history of 5000 years.
In 1947 India got the Dominion Status, not full independence. It was a lie of Nehru, he knew that very well.
Jinnah's prediction is coming true today 🙏❤️✌️
This man is derailed from debate
Oh get over it, partition happened, move on 🙄
Tata still chase
Excellent.
I bet Eric and sabriyah are probably dating now.
LOL!
Loving Life FO.
Only Pakistani
Even she spoke against partition
The debate is like flocinocienhelepilification
The foolish speaker who claims be an Indian but didn't know the Indian history, Nehru was not democratically elected to be the first pm but choosen in autocratic way by Gandhi.
Bhai I know there's no history elective at WhatsApp university but wikipedia exists:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951-52_Indian_general_election
@@name-cv7np yasss tell em . These bhakts smh
No further from bd.
so soft on Pakistani girl. hey, Suku use your brain we want the land, not the people. Jai V Patel.
In short the egotistical self-obsessed yet shrewd but not so wise politician Jinnah played into hands of British colonialists' explicit policy of "divide & rule" .
All said & done, both countries should move on now and live as peaceful neighbors.
yash sandhu well your glorious leaders like Nehru and Patel should have accepted the cabinet mission plan then there would have been no partition. Get your facts right u fool.
Gandhi ji could have stopped the partition..he could hv influnced Nehru n Jinnah. all three are responsible for bloodline btw India n Pak.
Mahi Raza You got that right!
@@kaatnikaatni9012 Nope. Only Jinnah was responsible. And i doubt you yourselves are familiar with Cabinet Mission plan.
@@Satu_Supari read cabinet mission plan u ignorant fuk and then present your argument.
THE MOST boring debate ever in Oxford Union......Style, body language, reading from paper....
My man wants Sabriya I don't blame him...
He is too ugly.
Every one often tend to believe that British created the divide between Sanatanis and Muslims to rule. While this is the result of the Muslims opting to follow Muslimhood (Califackth) over freedom struggle.
But British have done more damage to this land by creating divide within the Sanatanis. Macaulay is the architect and his inspiration was when he say entire Sanatani (basically the natives of this land) respected one Varna, who is Veda educated and a teacher, it gave him the idea to divide them. Until then there was no caste system rooted in the society that divided people. Only those who were considered (not known reason till date but am exploring) not following the then societal practices, were kept aside. This is bad now but do not know what they did/followed that they were kept out. Not an apologist nor trying to justify but want to find the truth behind it. As many of us believe, as followers of Adhi Sankara Acharya, there is a god in everyone.
My ancestor Ramram Basu was appointed as Professor in Bengali and Sanskrit in the Fort William College in 1800 in Calcutta; it was opposed by the Brahmin Pandits of the Fort William College, as Ramram Basu was not a Brahmin, but as a Sudra he had no right to teach Sanskrit. Do not say there was no caste system in India before 1934 when McAuley went to India,.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv in the survey conducted by Macaulay the findings were that there were educational centers everywhere, even if the locality(village/hamlet) had only 100 families. Before 18th century, literacy rate was 36% across India. Brahmins were only between 8-48% of the tutors rest of the tutors were non-brahmins. Your post shows your bias that was the result of propaganda for almost 300yrs. Macaulay devised the plan to replace local education with English so that rhe course material can be changed to the benefit of the British.
Pragmatic
Snobs with bow ties.
His arguments are at best - nonsensical! India wasn't partitioned because Hindus wanted Muslims out; it happened so because Muslims spilled blood for it. While partition was inevitable, it was so because an Abrahamaic, predatory faith could not and still cannot tolerate the existence, let alone domination over it, from denizens of another faith. And no, India and Pakistan are not in a death spiral. India marches on as Pakistan sinks further. What I regret is the loss of our territory; the loss of many members of her Muslim polity was the best consequence of partition for India and her future. India has perhaps progressed far more today because of this loss.
Grab a cigar and a chair and relax, don't hurry yourself towards relevance please, we need to hear your drawl and about your love for whiskey. Is this a faux Oxford?
Not impressive 👎
Very logical analysis
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Thanks to Muslims that they showed their mentality and went to pakistans...
We are hindus n living happily in india with all others religions.
stop generalising muslims
lol u beat people to death for eating beef burgers. India is a shithole
Who said there are no Non-Muslims in Bangladesh? Oh wait they are on the decline....
Karan, you're living in peace by disturbing/killing people of other faith. You want to subjugate them by means of force and mob riot.
I m Indian n by family faith m Hindu 😃
what was happened was tragic n v should learn from our black , bloody n shameful history 😃
n should not repeat those same mistakes again. it's very disturbing n horrifying to realize that millions of people had been migrated because of their faith 😞
India is n will a home for all religion . no one have the authority to question someone identity n nationality because of religion😠😠
India kesi k baap ki jagir nahi hai 😠😠
n if someone need a Religious state then they should take nationality from other countries like iran (for Muslim) , Nepal (for Hindus) , Israel ( for Jews) , Christians (for Vatican) ..
India is for indians 😃😃
religion k Nam pr already bahut Sara randi-rona ho chuka hai...
This guy's speaks sensible
Bangalis were the first to ask for the partition and separate muslim state.
Rael Kaz bengalis never "asked" partition , instead there were many rebels against that.
Old Songs that wasn't Bengali, those were goons mainly from bihari who do the most shameful act the Calcutta killing. U see when u say Bengali there are people like Subhash Chandra Bose and kazi Nazrul Islam, u couldn't find one leader from Bengal who supported Pakistan or played a key role in partition. Bengal was the land of intellectual and communal harmony and rebbel not a land of religious fundamentalist.
Old Songs that kind of dynastical boundaries present in every country. There isn't any country which ruled for years and have same boundary, like China never had Tibet, Persian Empire, Arabian peninsula, US, ottoman empire and all other countries. No big country have the same border as it was in past. The border changes with time and new empire
Old Songs eta onek complicated issue. Ha kintu indian government ta centralisation structure a cholena borong eta federal structure. India Desh ta Ekta Desh na borong Ekta continent jemon European union. R amader polical structure ta apnader ba onyo desher Che onek alada. Eikhane State government onek powerful central government theke. Law enforcement r j kono big decision state theke e newa hoy. Jemon beef onek rajye ban kintu west Bengal a noy r erom onek issues jeta state government er upor depend kore. Ek kotha te bolte gale unity in diversity jeta India k bind kore rekhece. R ha apnader alada hote to Amra ek bar o bolini borong apnara e dhormer name alada hoy gachen Jinnah Saheb er kothay. R poroborti kal e eta o proman hoy galo j dhormer name r jai hok Desh toiri kora jayna. Basic kotha holo jotokkhon nijer Bhasha, sonskriti r itihash k morjada debe Ekta Desh toto din kono problem hobena kintu jai muhurto tei ei gulo chapiye dewar chesta korbe tokhon e songhorsho hobe
Superficial arguments; you have zero understanding of Irish and British relations even at a political level (see protest on parliament seats) let alone cultural nuances. Your arguments follow same superficial logic.
he has grown up in England and he thinks that he is capable of giving solution to india and Pakistan.
Don't make me laugh
Read "The Indian Ideology," by Perry Anderson. The fault is pretty much all on the Hindus/Congress Party.
U read the book called indian summer where the author mr Alex who used to be close with Jinnah said that Pakistan was his biggest blunder, if he can he would rather like to go back to New Delhi, forget about the past and unified the India once again.