@@wardeni9603 Yes, it had the sci-fi element incorporated into the world of history in a balanced way which created a unique perspective on things i.e. seeing how real-world events were triggered by and narrated through the usage of these powerful artifacts. Now the lore has become a Marvel superhero movie.
@@georgetzathas9002 You just narrated exactly what the new games are doing also. The only difference is that people know more about the isu now. The biggest problem in AC is that they don't change
@@wardeni9603 The only difference is that we know more about the Isu? You don't see any other difference in the way events are unfolding? Alright, then I guess they could have thrown a Isu reveal at the end of AC1 and have Altair fight a giant monster with 10 hands using his flaming sword. Shouldn't feel too out of place, right? Let's not kid ourselves, of course they'll do their best to keep the story conected with this new one somehow, but it'll still seem and feel like a completely different universe. >"The biggest problem in AC is that they don't change" Do you see GTA having trouble with not changing its core ideas and elements since 1997, or feeling the need to do some superhero, over-the-top thing to feel refreshing? They still find new ways to innovate without being inconsistent with what they've already established in the series. Also it's maybe cause they don't release a new game every year to milk as much money as possible off of the name of the franchise and focus on quality over quantity.
Yeah it used to have intrigue and real character development. People and places and events that actually had an impact on the viewer. Dialogue that was real and thought provoking? Pepper ridge farm remembers
well anchient grace is a major historical era and even when it was just assassins and templars on every game since besides 1 and 2 ppl claimed was bad and even 1 an 2 had ppl that didnt like it so yes i remember ..... the drama that is lol also this game is about origins of the templars and the isu aka ones who came before which has been lore since revelations well they where called ones who came before on the early games but origins we finally found out what their race was called which was isu plot of the main game is prety standard nothing great but lore is prety thick
well there also used to be one Apple of Eden that Altair, Ezio and other fight to keep them from Templar but in Odyssey... there are so many of them they used it to open a door. It is like they can't bother come up with new isu's key so they just use Apple of Eden.
I think the most interesting thing about this DLC is how the factions of the Isu reflect the philosophies of the Assassins and Templars. Persophones is a representation of the Templars, with extreme order. Hades is a representation of the Assassins, with extreme freedom. The game calls it chaos which is what Haytham called freedom back in AC3. Poseidon is the only correct Isu because you need to have both for a balanced society.
Even in the myths Persephone is much dangerous because she will always try to entertain herself by pretending to help people only for them to get into a lot of struggle and trouble
No, there is no place for chaos at all. It's corruption that creates the problem, not order. Like in Star wars, balance is not light and dark, it's only light. There doesn't have to be good and evil in the world, corrupted good is not good in the first place. In today's world too, the problem is corruption. An uncorrupted monarchy or communism would do better than corrupted democracy and capitalism. Isu with all their tech, needed only create a fool-proof lie detector and mandatorily run it through everybody in power and suspect of crime. That would also save our societies. Run politicians, rich people and suspected criminals under a fool-proof lie detector, and let uncorrupted judges and journalists interview them.
@@lucasmarinzeck7028 It is and it isn't. A lot of the DLC was stuff planned after the game was finished. Inquisition was a little iffy as trespasser did seem like the ultimate goal but if you look at it from a technical standpoint it really isn't. I think origins is the only one that really conveys this mostly because it had multiple different endings before dlc was included. Origins DLC actually offered like 4-6 different endings. Dragon age 2 offered 3 different endings through DLC. Inquisition offered 3 different endings DLC (much more if including romance.) LONG STORY SHORT: Dragon age doesn't have a cannon ending, whatever you choose is your cannon ending. Also the complete edition of dragon age inquisition goes on sale for like 5 bucks around 10 times a year so it's not as bad
This is a simulation made from one of those beings that created the magic apple that desmod had to use, and its to teach leyla how to use a magic stick so everything as strange nothing has change.
Technically it's an orba with eliminational designs and patterns they only call it the Apple of eating or the golden Apple of ninks because of well how it's tied to the stories
Feeling ur pain. One of the better ways to do such a plot is revealing the breadcrumbs that keep the aura of mystery going, and the actual focus is on characters. Motivations. Pshilosophies. And then there's devolving into... this. A gameor two later you will see a Satan-esque character making cultural references and cracking jokes and making funny faces.
Their were times that I'm pissed off, when Ubisoft killed Juno in the comics. I mean their were hints in the past games that Juno may become a final boss in some future Assassins Creed game.
her appearance in the game seems strange and unnecessary to me, according to Ubi she wouldn't return, however I have the feeling that she could stay alive in the present day
I really hope that comic series wasn't canon. Juno deserves a better ending than some kid ruining her plans. Id love to see Basim fight Juno. Isu vs Isu.
How is she a bad person? She's the one who has been entrusted to end the Assassins/Templar fight, and the chosen one (heir of memories) that some of the Isu in the messages of Origins were talking about.
@@JohnDoeTheGoodGuy Yes but how exactly did she redeem herself? What if Aletheia really made a mistake and we might be introduced to the true Heri of Memories in the next Assassin's Creed? Layla succumbed to the Staff a lot, while Kassandra was able to resist.
That's because Kassandra's model was built from Alexios. The company had to go out and declare that Kassandra was canon so everyone would play with her, while this game was clearly made for Alexios in every single way.
22:55 "An actual Isu artifact in Assassin control! This changes everything" So Desmond and the hundreds of other Assassins who had held Isu artifacts mean nothing?
I think what they meant is that the Staff of hermes is the first Artifact that is not an Apple that the assassin's control. ( I dunno if they had others )
she means that Staff is the only artifact that they were able to master. desmond didn't have authority over the apple, that's why he killed lucy while he was under the effect of the apple in brotherhood ending.
@@virtualdream_ Desmond did not have authority over the Apple? Then why did he use it with such ease when he destroyed the Abstergo Facilities in Rome? Or why did he use it better that Ezio, as he did not get tired or felt no pain from using it?
@@user-fx1jl1jt3o I mean it's a bit silly being a simulation so we have no idea what is real or not but I guess this dlc doesn't break lore but the first dlc definitely does and the rest of the games story is plan stupid
Just an opinion, I believ that odyssey was never meant to serve as an assassins creed game. But more to serve as an explanation to how it all started(the bloodline and search for ISU tech), sure origins did that but this game I believe is just showing how the bloodline began, how every badass hood guy we now came from through their lineage. Sure they f*cked it up with the legacy of first blade DLC but the game still served its purpose, Layla(who I now dislike) was on the hunt for a powerful ISU artifact. She just happened to be going through the memories of the women/man that basically started both the assassin bloodline as well as the Hunt for all the artifacts. They could have pulled it off so much easier if they had more time to develop a proper narrative. That is my opinion, dislike like or share if you want. It's up to you
@JamesHLanier if that's true, that would have probably led to a smaller part of the community crying about the direction of this game. but it would have sold less. and to be fair, it doesn't matter. It's a AAA title that takes place in the AC universe. So it's an AC game. At least to me.
I mean does it matters? It is history, it's already been written. What happened to the modern Assassins and Templars? I always interested the conflict in modern days, how they go around it and where the story leads to. I want a conclusion to the conflict. After Desmond (AC3) it just becomes uninteresting.
Yedi Bear13 more than that what ever happened to the modern day story and the Adam and Eve counterparts after Desmond died? I didn’t bother playing any games past 4 but from what I know the story just basically went to shit and everything was thrown out the window.
Yeah yeah we know their rolling in their graves. Got any other "original" comment to contribute. Just enjoy the game for what it is. Wow. People never stop having something to piss and moan about.
@@somnius2519 LMAO SAYS YOU, coming here to this video just to whine about "wuaaa the AC series is not the same since Ezio and Desmond" like a true fking baby stuck in nostalgia. AC Valhalla is the best selling AC to date, Ubisoft won't go back to a game formula from 2007. Get over it.
But he still had a twisted side LOL. He gave the idea for Hades to create illusions for Brasidas where he would see his own head pierced through by a spear.
A real bruh moment when the 'Hecatoncheirers' meaning the hundred-handed ones only has 6 arms and is a single dude instead of triplets. Ubisoft is reaally raping Greek mythology more and more with each DLC
At least we got to gouge out his eyes. Still, despite GoW's loose interpretation of mythology, it was really creative. Built up the Olympians over the first two games and gave Kratose all the reason in the universe to butcher them in 3.
With Layla leaving Berg on the ground, I cant help but hope he crawls around and gets his hand on the staff while she is plugged in and kills her off. Seriously congrats Ubi, I've never wanted a player character to be killed off so much lol.
A protagonist who murders her friend out of rage, paralyzes her adversary, gloats about her victory over the paralyzed adversary, doesn’t tell Altair II about Victoria, and then goes back to playing video games next to her dead friend and crippled foe. She is the most unlikable protagonist I’ve ever seen.
And people wonder why I hate Layla she became a f****** psychopath in the end and I knew that this was going to happen and people wonder why I don't like this woman bring Desmond back at least he had a mind of perspective even he knew assassins or Templar they were both the same
@@NoName-yw1pt I hope she dies in the comics because she doesn't deserve a game where she dies I don't get why they brought f****** Juno back because she's no longer relevant
They could use the eagle barer as new present time line protagonist, instead of her. Think about it: he/she mastered the staff as keeper, and even poseidon said he/she is the only one who can control it. But for ubisoft it's better a psychopath, not an immortal hero. And he/she deserved to live waaay more than desmond
I was afraid Juno will kill Poseidon but he handled himself pretty well :) Also... how's Otso Berg alive?! Didn't Layla crush his spine when penetrating him with the giant staff?
From the looks of it, she just severed the lower section of his spine, paralyzing him from the waist down. It’d be lethal if it was a bit higher and a bit deeper
I've never played this game before. But this exchange of dialogue is some of the most incoherent garbage I've heard in a long time. There is no flow between the 4 characters and they're constantly switching their tones and positions
@Skdesteban 82th What? The title of the game is Assassins creed. And since the beginning of the franchise the whole point of the game is about two secret societies discovering the mysteries and truth of the past. And the Assassins and the Templars are the main focus of the game but now they have uncoged the bottle have pretty much ruined all the mysteries and to top it all off they made a main character that no gives a fuck about, such a shame thats it an end of an era. AC odyssey is total trash
@@jonstark9032 So instead of templars and assassins odyssey explored the grey area in between. In the fate of atlantis you can see Persephone as a templar, always thinking about control and Hades as an assassin, always enjoying the chaos and they are both terrible (which was the point). I agree on the main character, i dont give a fuck about her.
Kind of serves a purpose though. They aren’t some revered higher beings that the Cult and the Order of the Ancients try to view them as. They could be as petty and childish as the humans they looked down upon.
Yeah I stopped after black flag it was the last of the best assasin creed games for me. Origins onwards can be called a different title it is not assassin's creed
fans before ACO: *bruh templars and assassins again? i want some new fucking content* fans after ACO: *smh wtf is this shit show? where are the templars and assassins?*
@@danielstrawe5118 you can't generalize people, for me, assassin's creed is always about the clash between templar order and assassin brotherhood, and i never complained about that. This shitty fantasy rpg, witcher 3 wannabe has tainted the assassin's creed name.
Desmond literally died for this: Because Poseidon put Juno into her prison where she tried to escape the whole time... Everything comes together at this point. Poseidon talking about the sun... The experiments, that explain the weird Adam and Eve cutscene we saw a long time ago. That’s the reason why Altaïr and the rest did what they did, without knowing it, only to free Juno. And in the end Desmond sacrificed himself. It all makes sense it’s just complex as hell
It's still about Assassins and Templars. The Modern day plot is about Layla tracking down pieces of eden before abstergo can. The historical plot is about how what eventually became the templars are trying to control the war. You even meet the first assassin with a hidden blade and how Kassandra is related to Aya in AC Origins, which was about the origins of the Assassin's Guild and their fight against the precursor to the Templars. Aya had a statue in AC2. AC Syndicate was about a handful of assassin's taking over a Templar dominated London. AC Rogue was about an assassin turned Templar and how he decimated the entire north american order. AC Black Flag was about Kenway finding his place in the Assassin's order and the fight against Templars. The modern day plot both concerned you working for Abstergo and being helped by the AC Guild. Do I need to go further back? This DLC was specifically about Kassandra experiencing simulations of the Isu past so she could gain control of the staff.
Which is very good cause it really started to get repetitive and boring a long time ago. I love AC SINCE Syndicate...not the always predictable bs before.
I like the way they going with this because they showing the back story of the artifacts in all the ac greed. Plus we see why Templar and assassin fighting over the these very powerful artifacts
@@xLetalis But why would choices matter if this is just a simulation of things that already happened? It is established from the beginning of the Assassin's Creed lore that events cannot be changed within the Animus, every outcome remains as it happened.
Choices that reflect gameplay only are useless, choices that indeed reflect upon both story and gameplay are what is truly desired. To feel in control, and have your choices actually matter speaks to the imerrsion
xLetalis underworld my least favourite but Atlantis favourite. Elyssium in middle. I liked checking the lore boards from the Isu as well. Something reminding me of forerunners from halo Also taking inspiration from Atlantis so I can build something big in Minecraft survival.
@@AsharyAsh yeah Atlantis looked and felt really nice to move around and just appreciate and Underworld had my favourite characters and missions. Elysium though, it was just plain annoying with the weird landscape and the inconsistent storyline of you being forced to work both with and against Persephone.
So....Killed her friend, crippled a enemy who is sort of still awake and decided to hop back into the animus to say goodbye to "her" friends as if nothing happened. Who wrote these stories?
Otso couls simply but a bullet through her VR goggles as soon as he woke up, had he not GONE AFTER LAYLA WITH JUST HIS BARE HANDS! (still mad about this)
Rakonax bruh her enemy is still a love and she’s gonna go chill in the animus? To say goodbye? To people who aren’t actually there? What the fuck? No this writing is shit dude.
I'm pretty sure Andromeda's VA was better than this. This game just has NPC's taking it in turns to have stilted shouting matches with each other. If they were trying to make it feel grandiose I really didn't feel it.
Origins was a step in the right direction for a new, fresh take on Assassin's Creed, with flaws but potential. Odyssey was a left turn, plane flight, space trek, and dimensional hop all in the wrong direction.
Bullshit, this is way more interesting than the old boring AC stuff which was almost every time the same repetition over and over again til Syndicate. Now it feels more like Red Dead Redemption 2 gameplay and I'm glad they did it. - And the fanbase/ sales figures proof them right.
NO, origins was in the wrong direction witcher clone ruined stealth gameplay and eagle vision and completely ruined the canon by making bayek the founder of assassins and not adam and eve. trash game this one is worse tho because its even dumber
@@dieauferstehung Oh, writing "kys" to others who don't share your opinion... that's the level of your "argumentation"? How low and antisocial. Well, behave as bad and low as you want, I just laugh about it, cause in the end, the AC franchise is as it is now and they don't care about your aggro ranting. So go on cursing at others, cause that's all you can do. I don't give a... and have my fun with the games. 😂
The way Layla acts in the end compared to the beginning is totally different ever since she killed Vic I knew the staff corrupted her I wouldn’t be surprised if she died next game
I miss the old story about assassins creed. When it was actually mainly assassins vs the templars. When the templars had a massive secret agenda to change the whole world and the assasins were the good guys who tried to stop them. When there was a major unique back story to this which would explain why everything happened and what was to come. It was like assassins creed made it's owm unique world but slowly overtime the quality of that game's world crumbled into nothing until it became just some casual fighting game.
Yeah, they keep trying to add more "lore" when that doesnt really matter. All they need is good writing in a story where templars try to get a piece of eden and the assassins are there to try and stop it. That's it, nobody cares about precursors or Isu or anything. The Isu should remain dead in all forthcoming AC games and it should the only parts we see of them are remnants of what they tried to do with artifacts in the past that templar and assassins discover and fight over. Nothing more. And if you disagree, I ask you this, how many AC games have we had where the DEEP lore is disappointing in the end but the psuedo historical lore keeps us interested? Hint: its every AC game.
@@Phurzt ive played every assassin's from ps to vista and i honestly got bored cuz its just the same thing over and over again with the same mechanics...The story of origins was amazing and odyssey was also amazing but the DLC's were great except the voice actors and animations sucked...its nice to change a bit instead of repeating the same shit over and over...wasnt for origins and odyssey the AC franchise was going to be another one of Ubisoft's on going and repeating Far Cry franchise
@@Rakonax hey ı liked the Kenway Saga and even Arno yes they were flawed and had gameplay flaws aswell but they were still AC games they focused on historical events with characters personal stories connecting to those historical events changeing outcomes meeting templar assassin's and other historical characters and their reasons for fighting and then joining the Creed like how Ezio started his story for revenge Connor too protect his people and Edward too get coins and live the pirate life which most end horribly like Ezio growing wise and not being happy with some of the stuff he has dealt through and the pain of not truly knowing his part in the First Civilizations part and the effects of being Assassin does to his loved ones Connor again fighting for freedom and equality and also revenge for his mother but for a white mans world and in the end the people he sought to protect leaves his actions are for nearly nothing and not getting the ending he hoped for his people Edward's is a good one thoe he starts off as an pirate careing only for coin and getting drunk while screwing whores but then through interactions with templars and assassin's he becomes wise founds a foal and at the end becomes a wise assassin ... until he gets stabbed by his son but thats another story
@@noobguy9973 And? Syndicate was pretty cool. A handful of assassins vs a Templar controlled London. AC Origins was about Byak and his wife avenging the death of their son and in doing so are embroiled in the conflict between what became the Templar order and the order they adopt and build together that becomes the Assassin's Guild. His wife is a statue in AC2. AC Odyssey is more about the First Civ I guess, but ultimately she meets the first assassin with a hidden blade and has a child with his son, and their descendant is eventually the wife in AC Origins.
I actually played 4 times through Chapter 1 and enjoyed it due to all of the different choices and outcomes... then chapters 2 and 3 had almost nothing :O
I don't mind the mythology aspect of the new AC, i kinda like it. Honestly the apple of eden always proves that. But the story was shit. Layla is probably the worst assassin in history. And suddenly killing a templar is a bad thing
Remember when Juno was a prominent antagonist since Brotherhood? A pity that they killed her in the comics and yet in later games they are still using her making the whole story more confusing
@@nocturne4852 It was actually pretty climactic though. There was a whole countdown to when she'd get resurrected, and by the finale Charlotte kills Juno as the whole facility explodes. It was pretty damn cool
@@matthewgraham7331 No the most that Elijah (Desmond's son) had a hand in killing Juno was giving Charlotte an opening to stab Juno in the neck before the facility shortly exploded
That is not a hecatonchires. They have over a hundred arms and fifty heads. This thing has ten arms and one head. The name literally means hundred handed ones
Remember how excited we were at the end of AC1, back in 2007, when the apple of Eden showed a map of the world, with artifacts being pin-pointed to different places?
Bro this is wild imagine a game franchise that’s gone from killing crusaders with a wrist blade to stabbing a giant mesh of arms and legs with a light spear
I dont really care if this game is good or bad, everyone has his opinions, but you have to admit that they ruined the saga, and the next games will be like this. they dont even know how to continue the story, just make a new game already, dont call it assassins creed.
careless Quit being a smartass defender of this bullshit just because the game's "fun". If it can't stay the same, that means it's different and therefore not Assassin's Creed, boy. There are many games and RPGs that are fun. When I go for Assassin's Creed, I go for it for that feel of being an assassin, not just for having fun. Origins and Odyssey are absolutely fun as games, but it's sad that I had to reinstall Assassin's Creed Brotherhood to satisfy my desire to play an "Assassin's Creed" game because these new games that are supposed to be Assassin's Creed don't deliver what they're supposed to be about. So just stop, don't even try!
Cameron Pack There are two kinds of people here. 1: Actual hardcore fans of the series that are disappointed that the series has become something else. 2: Players that don't give a fuck about a series's identity or theme, and get BUTTHURT over actual fans voicing their genuine disappointment for a REASON, just because they like the game no matter whatever it turn into as long as it's "fun". The likes of you belong to the second category and therefore, if there's anyone "butthurt" here, it's you. Now fuck off instead of trolling.
Marmer then what was the point of this DLC? To show the Eagle Bearer that absolute order/chaos is bad and the Isu are bad? And to show Layla how to use the staff? This whole DLC was full of me asking “what am I doing here?” And “what was the point of that?” I hope the next game has a better writing team.”
@@josephmcmillen1734 Me too, now we know what the Isu look like, especially their culture & technology. Though, Atlantis along with its sister cities - Elysium & the underworld were sympathetic with the humans & they're also hostile towards Eden & other Isu cities.
Nic Waterfill I felt it but ultimately it wasn’t as much rage as when Aita spoke. I literally shouted “You...!”, thinking of all the Sages throughout their history and the terrible, manipulative bs they did to the player character in their schemes across the ages. It all stemmed from Aita’s pompous being. At least a few of them did the right thing but it’s always off screen in some fashion. Juno was also manipulative throughout the series but at least she opened the way to save humanity from the solar catastrophe.
@@xLetalis In storyline this expansion is just *shit* though there are very interesting new info for lore in those Codex, but Elysium, Underworld and Atlantis were a lot of fun to explore.
@@yutro213 ikr and same with the mortal realm it was great meeting other characters being in fights and picking whatever side and finding ver historical locations like thermoply
BTW you guys that saying it's trash and blah blah blah remember that the first assassin's were the mercenarys and it kinda show us how everything begins. ac odyssey is the first ac if we go historically
When I played, I honestly thought that they would merge the: Sphinx, Medusa, Minotaur cyclops together and make a 30 min boos with like 20 different attacks lmao
I'm so glad that Valhalla to a certain degree retconned this DLC. Everything you see is basically an abstract dream. It didn't happen and didn't exist like that. Just like Asgard and Jotunheim, which were basically metaphors for actual events.
@@jyhit I assume it was the coronal solar flare which has been a thing since Revelations. They just did a great job in Valhalla to intertwine Norse mythology with Isu lore. Ragnarok was basically another term for the solar flare that eradicated the Isu as we see it in Revelations And about how the worlds really looked: We just don't know. But the Isu were technologically advanced. It never made sense for Atlantis to look like an ancient cyber Greece. So just assume that Elysium, Hades and Atlantis never existed like that, but were just a simulation created by Alethea. Which is btw something they always made clear. At the end of the Atlantis DLC, Alethea says that the trials were inspired by her time as the dekhastes, but never happened like that.
@@DeviniteHD Bro!!! so Alethia been played Kassandra from the start of her becoming the Heir of Memories!!! Dammn!!! So Alethia is who Juno? and Loki is Aita?
As a game that offers choices yet those choices only change the one liner response followed by linear story, this is frustrating. The best part of the game is roaming the world, beautiful setting.
Baffles me how Alethiea thought that Kassandra should only be the keeper... She was more deserving than Layla. I've literally never hated a game character so much in my life. Kassandra dies next to her. Oh let's juno back into the Animus. Kills her best friend. Oh let me just nip back into the Animus. The writers should be sent to Hades.
The lore of Ac series feels like someone watched too much Ancient aliens or Gaia and said: great, let’s make a game about that. But as long i get to fight cool mythological stuff, sign me in.
@@paradisecityX0 The Greek mythology is nothing more but a corrupted story of the Isu. It isn't in AC lore real. They are like oral traditions that changed over time and the magic elements ruined AC, it was always Sci fi and not magic.
@@paradisecityX0 I never talked a out supernatural stuff at all, I talked about magic, which is clearly what we see here and contradicts the AC lore. Besides isn't the distinction between the Supernatural and magic too thin to really make a huge distinction here? It's one without a difference. Ac was built around Sci fi, not fantasy.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 What magic? No it's not. Huge difference. Materialism on the other hand is worse than magic. AC is history and sci-fi like MGS prequels.
I thought Atlantis was beautiful, but I thought it's storyline was the weakest of the 3 episodes. I was hoping there would be an actual story arc that spread across this DLC. It might've been more exciting if Aletheia was like "Yo Alexios, you gotta go judge Atlantis, but like...you gotta get a key and it's in Elysium." Then things go wrong and you end up in the Underworld. But Hades wants your staff for himself, cause he knows it's true power and that's why he wants to trap you. Then you beat him, and Poseidon is like "you got mad skillz bro, wanna see my huge aquarium?" and you get to go Atlantis. Instead, this DLC is all about becoming one with the staff and the staff's true meaning is to: - get enhanced bull attacks - destroy Atlantis - and kill doctors I wish there would've been a more definitive ending. Even Odyssey's main story didn't feel complete to me. I still enjoyed the hell out of it though, despite it not being like the previous games.
Yeah, I honestly agree with this. I'm an Odyssey stan, I also really enjoyed FoA and the fact that they actually chose to embrace the fact that AC has a sci-fi setting, but the story for both the DLCs are absolute messes.
Ya know honestly if they want to dive into a more deeper story and expand apon the isu civilization then they should just develop a whole game based on them
I mean this game does realize Hekatonchries are Poseidon's uncles, although I guess they forgot Atlas was his cousin as well.... Also what the hell is the point of multiple-choice in this game it just brings down the story more than anything for no good reason. I'd rather have people call me proper names etc and proper dialogue than boring multiple-choice plain dialogue
Assassin's Creed was born from Ubisoft's most acclaimed video game series in the early 2000s (and a favourite of mine) Prince of Persia. It was a hack n' slash, action series with mainly fantasy elements. Ubisoft, after that, tried a formula of more stealth focused gameplay with a setting more on the historical side than fantasy, namely, "Prince of Persia: Assassins" which was scrapped and later became the first, the original Assassin's Creed. Funny how people clamour for new games to return to their original Assassin's Creed roots, when the series itself was born out of a fantasy video game trilogy, and the modern games from Origins have kind of returned to that fantasy phase again. Though, I really miss the stealth focused action too.
What surprised me the most was the ending. Layla does not kill Otto, she leaves the staff far away from her and returns to the animus when OTTO IS STILL ALIVE!!!
Seeing all this, I honestly think that a future AC game will not work unless it will have the same power things, cuz the whole point was the mystery of who/how/where/when questions regarding the Isu or pre-cursor and this game and especially this DLC took that feeling of mystery and shoved it up Pythagoras' ass.
I finished the DLC today and felt the exact same way. It was glorious to be able to play in ISU time period (even though it's a simulation) but now there is no mystery. Everything is explained and the only way I see it going forward is sticking to the ISU story line somehow. Oh and I hope they scrap Layla. All she does is goes psycho then whines. No depth to her at all.
Just as a bit of an old AC fan that's completely fallen off the bandwagon, stopped buying these games after Revelations when I realised what was happening to this series: "Give them a "new" game every year that inches a present world narrative along." But I didn't even realise that they were gonna chuck all that in the bin and go completely wack. But I gotta say, dipping my toes back into the lore for a moment: I genuinely thought this series had a really cool and original take on the Roman Gods and their mythology, mostly in AC 1 - 3. Mostly, because it really was only in the last century or so that the popularity of using the Greek names for the Gods replaced the Latin names (Thanks Edith Hamilton), it's quite novel for a modern audience to hear names like "Juno", "Jove", "Minerva", "Mercury", "Janus" and "Diana" rather than the upteenth take on their Greek counterparts. But what this really led to was the popular misconception that the Romans copied the Greek Gods whole-sale, which doesn't actually make sense, that implies that the Romans didn't have the majority of their polytheistic pantheon for the first 500 years or so of their existence. They were an inherently very adaptable people and inducted many foreign Gods into their own pantheon, accepting that they lived alongside their existing Gods or another manifestation of a particular God. AC had a really interesting spin on it and it's kind of sad that the present games treat that material as extra baggage that the series would rather forget about... Or whatever was supposed to be happening in that DLC.
i know everyone in the coments want the death of all main characters to be impactful in the long run but... that izu said the best thing, no matter who wins there would still be chaos for the simple fact of the temptation of the artefacts, they should be destroy to end the cycle of violence, or at least make a treaty of peace since no side would have a real way to control anything
She is in AC Valhalla. Plus, we don’t know if Juno is really dead as she could’ve copied her consciousness into her humanoid clone body. We didn’t see the whole transfer process in AC Uprising.
![[Assassin's Creed Odyssey] | Hades King of the Underworld Final Boss & Ending | All Hades Cutscenes](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DulNNMVdx3A/mqdefault.jpg)
Remember when they removed the crossbow from AC1 for historical accuracy? Oh how times change...
Remember when AC1 still had a glowing apple of eden built by the Isu that killed people and drove others mad?
isu is the most interesting thing on ac franchise and it had to be revealed
@@wardeni9603 Yes, it had the sci-fi element incorporated into the world of history in a balanced way which created a unique perspective on things i.e. seeing how real-world events were triggered by and narrated through the usage of these powerful artifacts. Now the lore has become a Marvel superhero movie.
@@georgetzathas9002 You just narrated exactly what the new games are doing also. The only difference is that people know more about the isu now. The biggest problem in AC is that they don't change
@@wardeni9603 The only difference is that we know more about the Isu? You don't see any other difference in the way events are unfolding? Alright, then I guess they could have thrown a Isu reveal at the end of AC1 and have Altair fight a giant monster with 10 hands using his flaming sword. Shouldn't feel too out of place, right? Let's not kid ourselves, of course they'll do their best to keep the story conected with this new one somehow, but it'll still seem and feel like a completely different universe.
>"The biggest problem in AC is that they don't change" Do you see GTA having trouble with not changing its core ideas and elements since 1997, or feeling the need to do some superhero, over-the-top thing to feel refreshing? They still find new ways to innovate without being inconsistent with what they've already established in the series. Also it's maybe cause they don't release a new game every year to milk as much money as possible off of the name of the franchise and focus on quality over quantity.
Desmond died for this
Please don't remind me... poor Desmond... T_T
So true 😂😭
StoneApparatus eh
Desmond is alive in the Grey at least.
I hope they bring him back and fix this mess.
Anyone remember when Assassins Creed used to be about Assassins and Templars killing each other throughout history in the backdrop of historical eras?
Yeah it used to have intrigue and real character development. People and places and events that actually had an impact on the viewer. Dialogue that was real and thought provoking?
Pepper ridge farm remembers
well anchient grace is a major historical era and even when it was just assassins and templars on every game since besides 1 and 2 ppl claimed was bad and even 1 an 2 had ppl that didnt like it so yes i remember ..... the drama that is lol also this game is about origins of the templars and the isu aka ones who came before which has been lore since revelations well they where called ones who came before on the early games but origins we finally found out what their race was called which was isu plot of the main game is prety standard nothing great but lore is prety thick
well there also used to be one Apple of Eden that Altair, Ezio and other fight to keep them from Templar but in Odyssey... there are so many of them they used it to open a door. It is like they can't bother come up with new isu's key so they just use Apple of Eden.
@@shikniwho7215 well, we grow apples these day, so yeah
did you guys even play the game??? This is a DLC, the whole game has nothing to do with it
I think the most interesting thing about this DLC is how the factions of the Isu reflect the philosophies of the Assassins and Templars. Persophones is a representation of the Templars, with extreme order. Hades is a representation of the Assassins, with extreme freedom. The game calls it chaos which is what Haytham called freedom back in AC3. Poseidon is the only correct Isu because you need to have both for a balanced society.
Even in the myths Persephone is much dangerous because she will always try to entertain herself by pretending to help people only for them to get into a lot of struggle and trouble
No, there is no place for chaos at all. It's corruption that creates the problem, not order.
Like in Star wars, balance is not light and dark, it's only light.
There doesn't have to be good and evil in the world, corrupted good is not good in the first place.
In today's world too, the problem is corruption. An uncorrupted monarchy or communism would do better than corrupted democracy and capitalism.
Isu with all their tech, needed only create a fool-proof lie detector and mandatorily run it through everybody in power and suspect of crime.
That would also save our societies. Run politicians, rich people and suspected criminals under a fool-proof lie detector, and let uncorrupted judges and journalists interview them.
Too much order is oppression. Too much freedom is chaos. That’s why we need both.
No it shows humanity is plague
But think of hades and persephone then that would translate to order and death
"now that you have seen the fate of atlantis how do you feel"
"i feel powerful"
"i want to go home"
"i feel tired"
GREAT WRITING THERE
12:04
I chose tired cuz that's how I felt after finishing this long ass dlc
@@skxlter5747 When re-writing a beloved franchise around a pseudo-science quackpot theory like Ancient Alien Astronaut theory goes wrong.
@@skxlter5747 facts🤣
@@dawk203 hahaha niggas 🤣
When AC tried to be Witcher 3 and threw in Bloodborne bosses, we got AC Odyssey
Yeah it does try ;]
Bit of God of war as well
@@darthultor6365 God of War had better looking Greek gods.
It's a complete shitshow I'd rather listen all day to horrible music rather than have this horrible game within my other games
@@blacktigerpaw1 god of war had everything looking better than this..this abomination.
Assasins Creed has an identity crisis
Especially with this expansion, yes.
They kinda forgot about the plot
Damn straight
@@NoName-yw1pt It is more like Fantasy Creed the historical part and modern day story are meh
It lost it's identity since Unity
Why do they seem to be trying to put more story in the DLC than the actual game?
not a bad thing I guess
Remember dragon age inquisition? the real endind is by dlc, disgusting
@@lucasmarinzeck7028 Every single dragon age had their true endings inside DLC. Origins offered different endings though
@@Raydr62 I did not know about that, still looks like a shit way to offers conttent to players in my opnion
@@lucasmarinzeck7028 It is and it isn't. A lot of the DLC was stuff planned after the game was finished. Inquisition was a little iffy as trespasser did seem like the ultimate goal but if you look at it from a technical standpoint it really isn't. I think origins is the only one that really conveys this mostly because it had multiple different endings before dlc was included. Origins DLC actually offered like 4-6 different endings. Dragon age 2 offered 3 different endings through DLC. Inquisition offered 3 different endings DLC (much more if including romance.)
LONG STORY SHORT: Dragon age doesn't have a cannon ending, whatever you choose is your cannon ending. Also the complete edition of dragon age inquisition goes on sale for like 5 bucks around 10 times a year so it's not as bad
Zeus and other unmentioned gods just sipping tea while their people die 🤣🤣🤣
Apollo sittin in the back playing the lyre and writing a haiku about their death😂
well i think kratos killed them...
Hermes laughs uncontrollably
Nah fam pretty sure anubis zeus and odin doing it together😂
What are you talking about Zeus is mentionned in the Fate of atkantis 2 and 3. Also Jupiter is Zeus
I miss the times when the most strange thing in this game was a magic apple that could control minds
This is a simulation made from one of those beings that created the magic apple that desmod had to use, and its to teach leyla how to use a magic stick so everything as strange nothing has change.
Technically it's an orba with eliminational designs and patterns they only call it the Apple of eating or the golden Apple of ninks because of well how it's tied to the stories
You know kid the apple was from an advanced civilization, these guys here…
Feeling ur pain.
One of the better ways to do such a plot is revealing the breadcrumbs that keep the aura of mystery going, and the actual focus is on characters. Motivations. Pshilosophies. And then there's devolving into... this.
A gameor two later you will see a Satan-esque character making cultural references and cracking jokes and making funny faces.
ah yes... the good ol' days
Their were times that I'm pissed off, when Ubisoft killed Juno in the comics. I mean their were hints in the past games that Juno may become a final boss in some future Assassins Creed game.
her appearance in the game seems strange and unnecessary to me, according to Ubi she wouldn't return, however I have the feeling that she could stay alive in the present day
She was deserving of a Lahkesis fight.
@@uvmcarloschavezmagana8696 That's one retcon I wouldn't mind
how the fuck do you mistake their for there
I really hope that comic series wasn't canon. Juno deserves a better ending than some kid ruining her plans. Id love to see Basim fight Juno. Isu vs Isu.
*Is Poseidon, God of All the Seas*
Calls for guards.
SwordTune i ddint understand i thought he would drown her in a magical water ball
@Adam Strix yes
This Poseidon is just an Isu dude hes not a god... so yeah.
@@ajayavsm7476 oh yea
Those lofty titels mean nothing. It shows they were just petty flawed beings
also,so in the end Layla is not worthy , she is selfish greedy and weak. she is genuinely a bad person .
How is she a bad person? She's the one who has been entrusted to end the Assassins/Templar fight, and the chosen one (heir of memories) that some of the Isu in the messages of Origins were talking about.
@@JohnDoeTheGoodGuy Yes but how exactly did she redeem herself? What if Aletheia really made a mistake and we might be introduced to the true Heri of Memories in the next Assassin's Creed? Layla succumbed to the Staff a lot, while Kassandra was able to resist.
Vimorain she's a woman, what do you expect
@@ObsidianAngiris The Staff is what's screwing with her head. Don't get into this stupid argument about women, mate.
@@JohnDoeTheGoodGuy no one is on your side, mate
According to Assassin's Creed everyone throughout history walked like a bro and spoke with exaggerated body language.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 bro their movement is not normal, dude says something slow but dances like niki minaj
@@shahryarahmadi246 😆
That's because Kassandra's model was built from Alexios. The company had to go out and declare that Kassandra was canon so everyone would play with her, while this game was clearly made for Alexios in every single way.
@Anon Lahey okay pleb.
@@carlosalegria4776facts
22:55 "An actual Isu artifact in Assassin control! This changes everything"
So Desmond and the hundreds of other Assassins who had held Isu artifacts mean nothing?
I think what they meant is that the Staff of hermes is the first Artifact that is not an Apple that the assassin's control.
( I dunno if they had others )
she means that Staff is the only artifact that they were able to master. desmond didn't have authority over the apple, that's why he killed lucy while he was under the effect of the apple in brotherhood ending.
Whatever happened to Desmond's Apple anyway? I assumed William Miles took it but we haven't seen it since AC3.
@@ThePreciseClimber wasn't it used to open a door in AC3?
@@virtualdream_
Desmond did not have authority over the Apple? Then why did he use it with such ease when he destroyed the Abstergo Facilities in Rome? Or why did he use it better that Ezio, as he did not get tired or felt no pain from using it?
Out of context you'd never know that this was Assassins' Creed.
Well I mean you could guess with Juno being there but yeah this is stupid
well it is kinda lore friendly
@@user-fx1jl1jt3o I mean it's a bit silly being a simulation so we have no idea what is real or not but I guess this dlc doesn't break lore but the first dlc definitely does and the rest of the games story is plan stupid
It’s so fucked how correct you are I didn’t even realize it wow
@@anotherhappylanding4746 It's a DLC. By definition it has little baring on the plot of the main game.
Just an opinion, I believ that odyssey was never meant to serve as an assassins creed game. But more to serve as an explanation to how it all started(the bloodline and search for ISU tech), sure origins did that but this game I believe is just showing how the bloodline began, how every badass hood guy we now came from through their lineage. Sure they f*cked it up with the legacy of first blade DLC but the game still served its purpose, Layla(who I now dislike) was on the hunt for a powerful ISU artifact. She just happened to be going through the memories of the women/man that basically started both the assassin bloodline as well as the Hunt for all the artifacts. They could have pulled it off so much easier if they had more time to develop a proper narrative. That is my opinion, dislike like or share if you want. It's up to you
@JamesHLanier if that's true, that would have probably led to a smaller part of the community crying about the direction of this game.
but it would have sold less.
and to be fair, it doesn't matter. It's a AAA title that takes place in the AC universe. So it's an AC game. At least to me.
I mean does it matters? It is history, it's already been written. What happened to the modern Assassins and Templars? I always interested the conflict in modern days, how they go around it and where the story leads to. I want a conclusion to the conflict. After Desmond (AC3) it just becomes uninteresting.
Yedi Bear13 more than that what ever happened to the modern day story and the Adam and Eve counterparts after Desmond died? I didn’t bother playing any games past 4 but from what I know the story just basically went to shit and everything was thrown out the window.
this pretty much
i agree
We could probably harness unlimited energy if we were to tap into the rotations of Altair, Ezio, and Desmond are currently doing in their graves.
Yeah yeah we know their rolling in their graves. Got any other "original" comment to contribute. Just enjoy the game for what it is. Wow. People never stop having something to piss and moan about.
@@wisdomgreenleaf3387 Go eat a snickers, buddy.
@@wisdomgreenleaf3387 ok boomer
hahahahhahahahahaha
@@somnius2519 LMAO SAYS YOU, coming here to this video just to whine about "wuaaa the AC series is not the same since Ezio and Desmond" like a true fking baby stuck in nostalgia. AC Valhalla is the best selling AC to date, Ubisoft won't go back to a game formula from 2007. Get over it.
Poseidon is by far the wisest isu. He gave up his power to become a better being.His heart surpass his desire to rule.to cherish life .
But he still had a twisted side LOL. He gave the idea for Hades to create illusions for Brasidas where he would see his own head pierced through by a spear.
The feels when Alexios tells Alethiea that he’s homesick, and she replies ‘the keeper has no home’.
I swear Origins knew its identity before the progression on its development reached the half way mark.
Isaias Valladares yeah this better than origins
Lets be real that game was all about egypt assassins
careless Nah, Origins > Odyssey
Nicholas Alexander I respect your wrong opinion
careless Lol
"I don't care if you live or die." Immediately stabs him in the back with a gigantic, pointy staff.
That actually made me laugh.
yeah seems like a bitch
How do you defeat an archdemon? Poke it with a sword till it stops moving 😂😂😂😂😂
A real bruh moment when the 'Hecatoncheirers' meaning the hundred-handed ones only has 6 arms and is a single dude instead of triplets. Ubisoft is reaally raping Greek mythology more and more with each DLC
Thank God this was just a simulation
it was an echo of a memory!
Gumm are you greek btw? I've a question ;]
@@xLetalis Gummihals = Rubberneck (Norwegian)
Likw wheres the hundred arms and fifty heads
“The death of Olympus means the death of us all!”
“Then, prepare for your death, Poseidon.”
*Dun dun dun, dun dun dun dun, Kratos! Kratos!*
He should have been included in ac lore...
At least we got to gouge out his eyes. Still, despite GoW's loose interpretation of mythology, it was really creative. Built up the Olympians over the first two games and gave Kratose all the reason in the universe to butcher them in 3.
a reference to a better game which knows its identity
Big gigantic circle hovering above Poseidon....
My vengeance is complete
Ubisoft would be making a ton of funny and well crafted games mixing history and fantasy but they keep slapping an AC title in all of them
With Layla leaving Berg on the ground, I cant help but hope he crawls around and gets his hand on the staff while she is plugged in and kills her off. Seriously congrats Ubi, I've never wanted a player character to be killed off so much lol.
It almost seems like she's becoming a villain though. She killed Vic out of rage and now Berg.
A protagonist who murders her friend out of rage, paralyzes her adversary, gloats about her victory over the paralyzed adversary, doesn’t tell Altair II about Victoria, and then goes back to playing video games next to her dead friend and crippled foe. She is the most unlikable protagonist I’ve ever seen.
At first, I liked Layla. I liked her in the main game. But as the DLC goes on...yah, I just want her to disappear.
@@JingleJangle256 ARE YOU TELLING ME THERE ARE 2 ALTAIRS?
damn
@@katar89 no they’re just code names
And people wonder why I hate Layla she became a f****** psychopath in the end and I knew that this was going to happen and people wonder why I don't like this woman bring Desmond back at least he had a mind of perspective even he knew assassins or Templar they were both the same
She may die in the comics too, who knows
@@NoName-yw1pt I hope she dies in the comics because she doesn't deserve a game where she dies I don't get why they brought f****** Juno back because she's no longer relevant
@@NoName-yw1pt I'd like that she gets the same treatment as Juno. A trade.
They could use the eagle barer as new present time line protagonist, instead of her. Think about it: he/she mastered the staff as keeper, and even poseidon said he/she is the only one who can control it. But for ubisoft it's better a psychopath, not an immortal hero. And he/she deserved to live waaay more than desmond
@@frosttheicelord1497 She Kassandra is canon, but I think she should have been a bigger player than a plot device for a main character nobody likes.
That moment when your realized *DESMOND DIED FOR THIS SHIAT*
Rip
Who cares. Desmond and the modern aspect of Assassin's Creed were terrible from the beginning
@@jesuschrist9513 Considering how much of an asshole Jesus is in both bible and Ac lore I really think it doesn't matter.
@@lazkraft7917 bruh
He's not entirely death
you’re telling me this whole series basically amounts to an allegory about climate change? lmao
lol
its about the Sun changing patterns in heat and yeas that can kill us all IRL as well
^ the most underrated channel
Hey, fancy seeing you here!
it's been about that since the end of AC2
This spin off from god of war looks cool.
I was afraid Juno will kill Poseidon but he handled himself pretty well :) Also... how's Otso Berg alive?! Didn't Layla crush his spine when penetrating him with the giant staff?
No that wasn't Otso
Sequel baiting yay.
@@David-nq8cv a doppler?
From the looks of it, she just severed the lower section of his spine, paralyzing him from the waist down. It’d be lethal if it was a bit higher and a bit deeper
@@xLetalis Layla paralyzed him by stabbing him in the lower spine, similar on how the Joker paralyzed Batgirl by shooting her in her lower spine too.
I've never played this game before. But this exchange of dialogue is some of the most incoherent garbage I've heard in a long time. There is no flow between the 4 characters and they're constantly switching their tones and positions
Yeah... happens in this game ;[
That's just his choices
The writing is utter dogshit and they should be ashamed for defiling a storyline as dynamic as assassin's Creed.
Anzu Wyliei lol alot of AC fans complained about all historical games because its boring thats why they made an ancient story
It's much better in Origins.
Uhm... this is still assassins creed right?...doesn't feel like it.
Jonas Hopkins apparently so
no this is an echo of a memory :D
@Skdesteban 82th What? The title of the game is Assassins creed. And since the beginning of the franchise the whole point of the game is about two secret societies discovering the mysteries and truth of the past. And the Assassins and the Templars are the main focus of the game but now they have uncoged the bottle have pretty much ruined all the mysteries and to top it all off they made a main character that no gives a fuck about, such a shame thats it an end of an era. AC odyssey is total trash
@Skdesteban 82th This isn't the First Civilization, as they were destroyed around 10,000 years before humanity even built the pyramids.
@@jonstark9032
So instead of templars and assassins odyssey explored the grey area in between. In the fate of atlantis you can see Persephone as a templar, always thinking about control and Hades as an assassin, always enjoying the chaos and they are both terrible (which was the point). I agree on the main character, i dont give a fuck about her.
I like how comically evil the Isu are in this.
"Rawr, we're going to destroy you, uwu. Stupid plebs"
Kind of serves a purpose though. They aren’t some revered higher beings that the Cult and the Order of the Ancients try to view them as. They could be as petty and childish as the humans they looked down upon.
Once Assassin's Creed was amazing historical freeroam parkour slasher now it is Star Wars Witcher..Ezio is probably swirling in grave...
If it stayed like that ypu wpuld br bitching sayong its the same thing all over
Yeah I stopped after black flag it was the last of the best assasin creed games for me. Origins onwards can be called a different title it is not assassin's creed
It was getting pretty repetitive.
fans before ACO: *bruh templars and assassins again? i want some new fucking content*
fans after ACO: *smh wtf is this shit show? where are the templars and assassins?*
@@danielstrawe5118 you can't generalize people, for me, assassin's creed is always about the clash between templar order and assassin brotherhood, and i never complained about that. This shitty fantasy rpg, witcher 3 wannabe has tainted the assassin's creed name.
Desmond literally died for this:
Because Poseidon put Juno into her prison where she tried to escape the whole time...
Everything comes together at this point.
Poseidon talking about the sun...
The experiments, that explain the weird Adam and Eve cutscene we saw a long time ago.
That’s the reason why Altaïr and the rest did what they did, without knowing it, only to free Juno.
And in the end Desmond sacrificed himself.
It all makes sense it’s just complex as hell
So the whole point was for Desmond to free Juno ??
@@SROD_559 and save the world in the process
It's moronic and the series has lost it's identity.....it's just mediocre af now
@N7Andy Yeah but Odyssey is total dogshit and contradicts a lot of the lore, especially from Origins.
It all makes sense though it all could've been done in an actually well written game. Which is a shame.
Why Otso Berg looks like commander Shepard now?
and is just as immortal
He tried to copy Kruger from Elysium, with nowhere near the power of Sharlto Copley.
He stole Stentor's face
His hair was graying too much so he said "fuck it" and he shaved it to a buzz cut.
He looks better on syndicate
The Game looks great. But this stopped being about Assassins and Templars a long time ago.
The Templars only appeared during the Crusades and lasted since then, before that it was always some sort of world controling organization.
@@SaibotPT Their ideology was created by Cain. But the templar order first appeared in the Crusades.
these animations are awful, they remind me of Elder Scrolls
It's still about Assassins and Templars. The Modern day plot is about Layla tracking down pieces of eden before abstergo can. The historical plot is about how what eventually became the templars are trying to control the war. You even meet the first assassin with a hidden blade and how Kassandra is related to Aya in AC Origins, which was about the origins of the Assassin's Guild and their fight against the precursor to the Templars. Aya had a statue in AC2. AC Syndicate was about a handful of assassin's taking over a Templar dominated London. AC Rogue was about an assassin turned Templar and how he decimated the entire north american order. AC Black Flag was about Kenway finding his place in the Assassin's order and the fight against Templars. The modern day plot both concerned you working for Abstergo and being helped by the AC Guild. Do I need to go further back? This DLC was specifically about Kassandra experiencing simulations of the Isu past so she could gain control of the staff.
Which is very good cause it really started to get repetitive and boring a long time ago. I love AC SINCE Syndicate...not the always predictable bs before.
I love how Poseidon bodied Juno and Aita. Dude was a powerful Isu!
I like the way they going with this because they showing the back story of the artifacts in all the ac greed. Plus we see why Templar and assassin fighting over the these very powerful artifacts
Yes and its the fact that your choices change nothing that makes it a terrible game
What makes it even worse imo is that in Episode 1, lots of choices mattered in interesting ways, and then nothing ever since
@@xLetalis But why would choices matter if this is just a simulation of things that already happened? It is established from the beginning of the Assassin's Creed lore that events cannot be changed within the Animus, every outcome remains as it happened.
@@UpcoRaul they there shouldn't have been choices ;]
Much like the Tell Tales games, choices effect gameplay however your choices don't change anything and for that it's a sin cashing 5
Choices that reflect gameplay only are useless, choices that indeed reflect upon both story and gameplay are what is truly desired. To feel in control, and have your choices actually matter speaks to the imerrsion
Anyone else really enjoy Atlantis? I really enjoyed walking in it and stuff. It felt really cool.
I enjoyed Episode 1, not so much the rest
xLetalis underworld my least favourite but Atlantis favourite. Elyssium in middle. I liked checking the lore boards from the Isu as well. Something reminding me of forerunners from halo
Also taking inspiration from Atlantis so I can build something big in Minecraft survival.
Me
@@AsharyAsh yeah Atlantis looked and felt really nice to move around and just appreciate and Underworld had my favourite characters and missions.
Elysium though, it was just plain annoying with the weird landscape and the inconsistent storyline of you being forced to work both with and against Persephone.
So like are the gods all like dead now? I’m really confused. This story line makes no sense lol
Otso berg doesnt look like himself lol. I prefer his original look in Ac Rogue
As much as I love Odyssey, same.
So....Killed her friend, crippled a enemy who is sort of still awake and decided to hop back into the animus to say goodbye to "her" friends as if nothing happened. Who wrote these stories?
Otso couls simply but a bullet through her VR goggles as soon as he woke up, had he not GONE AFTER LAYLA WITH JUST HIS BARE HANDS! (still mad about this)
one simple line to explain why you are back in the animus: "such bad writing"
the same shit a dozen times in ac 1-3: "such brilliant writing"
Rakonax bruh her enemy is still a love and she’s gonna go chill in the animus? To say goodbye? To people who aren’t actually there? What the fuck? No this writing is shit dude.
@@Rakonax nop
"Mass Effect Andromeda's animations are terrible"
Ubisoft: hold my beer.
Berg is even dressed for it
Victoria even looks like that Chick from Andromeda. Their faces be like(~_^)
I'm pretty sure Andromeda's VA was better than this. This game just has NPC's taking it in turns to have stilted shouting matches with each other. If they were trying to make it feel grandiose I really didn't feel it.
7:16 Poseidon has met Dr.Strange.
The dlc and game stories are a hot mess but damn, this game is so fun and beautiful I don't even care.
Yes,I really like Odyssey and even the Dlc's
Origins was a step in the right direction for a new, fresh take on Assassin's Creed, with flaws but potential. Odyssey was a left turn, plane flight, space trek, and dimensional hop all in the wrong direction.
I coudnt agree more. I gave up at the end of the first chapter of Fate of Atlantis, uninstalled Odyssey and I'll never play it again!
Bullshit, this is way more interesting than the old boring AC stuff which was almost every time the same repetition over and over again til Syndicate. Now it feels more like Red Dead Redemption 2 gameplay and I'm glad they did it. - And the fanbase/ sales figures proof them right.
Plüsch 😂😂agent.
NO,
origins was in the wrong direction
witcher clone ruined stealth gameplay and eagle vision
and completely ruined the canon by making bayek the founder of assassins and not adam and eve.
trash game this one is worse tho because its even dumber
@@dieauferstehung Oh, writing "kys" to others who don't share your opinion... that's the level of your "argumentation"? How low and antisocial. Well, behave as bad and low as you want, I just laugh about it, cause in the end, the AC franchise is as it is now and they don't care about your aggro ranting. So go on cursing at others, cause that's all you can do. I don't give a... and have my fun with the games. 😂
The way Layla acts in the end compared to the beginning is totally different ever since she killed Vic I knew the staff corrupted her I wouldn’t be surprised if she died next game
well, would you look at that
@@arvoredeuva5485 would you look at that indeed
@@leenmachine9380 Have you ever considered becoming a clairvoyant? You might make some good money out of that
I miss the old story about assassins creed. When it was actually mainly assassins vs the templars. When the templars had a massive secret agenda to change the whole world and the assasins were the good guys who tried to stop them. When there was a major unique back story to this which would explain why everything happened and what was to come. It was like assassins creed made it's owm unique world but slowly overtime the quality of that game's world crumbled into nothing until it became just some casual fighting game.
Yeah, they keep trying to add more "lore" when that doesnt really matter.
All they need is good writing in a story where templars try to get a piece of eden and the assassins are there to try and stop it. That's it, nobody cares about precursors or Isu or anything. The Isu should remain dead in all forthcoming AC games and it should the only parts we see of them are remnants of what they tried to do with artifacts in the past that templar and assassins discover and fight over. Nothing more.
And if you disagree, I ask you this, how many AC games have we had where the DEEP lore is disappointing in the end but the psuedo historical lore keeps us interested? Hint: its every AC game.
The old games sucked and had horrible stories
@@AcherontiaStyx ah, yes, because Odyssey is the pinnacle of storytelling
@@Phurzt ive played every assassin's from ps to vista and i honestly got bored cuz its just the same thing over and over again with the same mechanics...The story of origins was amazing and odyssey was also amazing but the DLC's were great except the voice actors and animations sucked...its nice to change a bit instead of repeating the same shit over and over...wasnt for origins and odyssey the AC franchise was going to be another one of Ubisoft's on going and repeating Far Cry franchise
@@khodorfreefire6970 I didn't knew people could actually like a turd more than a game that is critically acclaimed and loved by gamer like AC2.
as a die-hard fan back in the day, this series has become a joke.
it turned into a joke with revalation
@@Rakonax nah after 3
@@wanderer2465 3 was a joke aswell. the story was pseudo deep, and you could skip every assassination by spamming the gun button
@@Rakonax hey ı liked the Kenway Saga and even Arno yes they were flawed and had gameplay flaws aswell but they were still AC games they focused on historical events with characters personal stories connecting to those historical events changeing outcomes meeting templar assassin's and other historical characters and their reasons for fighting and then joining the Creed
like how Ezio started his story for revenge Connor too protect his people and Edward too get coins and live the pirate life which most end horribly
like Ezio growing wise and not being happy with some of the stuff he has dealt through and the pain of not truly knowing his part in the First Civilizations part and the effects of being Assassin does to his loved ones
Connor again fighting for freedom and equality and also revenge for his mother but for a white mans world and in the end the people he sought to protect leaves his actions are for nearly nothing and not getting the ending he hoped for his people
Edward's is a good one thoe he starts off as an pirate careing only for coin and getting drunk while screwing whores but then through interactions with templars and assassin's he becomes wise founds a foal and at the end becomes a wise assassin ... until he gets stabbed by his son but thats another story
@@noobguy9973 And? Syndicate was pretty cool. A handful of assassins vs a Templar controlled London.
AC Origins was about Byak and his wife avenging the death of their son and in doing so are embroiled in the conflict between what became the Templar order and the order they adopt and build together that becomes the Assassin's Guild. His wife is a statue in AC2.
AC Odyssey is more about the First Civ I guess, but ultimately she meets the first assassin with a hidden blade and has a child with his son, and their descendant is eventually the wife in AC Origins.
i can't believe you played through this shitshow twice. gongrats on your seemingly unending stamina man.
i could barely get through vanilla once
i finish odyssey 3 times on 100%
So if you consider this game a "shitshow" then why are you watching a video of the last DLC of the game?
I actually played 4 times through Chapter 1 and enjoyed it due to all of the different choices and outcomes... then chapters 2 and 3 had almost nothing :O
I'd even argue that Fields of Elysium is on par with AC Origins Curse of the Pharoahs. It was that good and the amount of choices was huge.
@@ironmagical888 you watch it to 1) support a cool channel & 2) so you don't have to play it to see what happens
I don't mind the mythology aspect of the new AC, i kinda like it. Honestly the apple of eden always proves that. But the story was shit. Layla is probably the worst assassin in history. And suddenly killing a templar is a bad thing
but america's brotherhood was worse
@@katar89 Adewale 😭😭😭
I let Poseidon win the fight and we wen’t down with Atlantis like a boss
The powers Poseidon has are badass
Remember when Juno was a prominent antagonist since Brotherhood?
A pity that they killed her in the comics and yet in later games they are still using her making the whole story more confusing
Oh hey it’s Juno we couldn’t finish her story but we can get a prequel smh
They did finish her story in the comics
Fernando Ik they finished it in comics but that was so anti climatic 😭
@@nocturne4852
It was actually pretty climactic though. There was a whole countdown to when she'd get resurrected, and by the finale Charlotte kills Juno as the whole facility explodes. It was pretty damn cool
@@SlowWinterNuts Desmond's son killed Juno, but alright.
@@matthewgraham7331
No the most that Elijah (Desmond's son) had a hand in killing Juno was giving Charlotte an opening to stab Juno in the neck before the facility shortly exploded
Me: *Sees Persephone faint* 16:03
Me: Oh no-uh-oh you shall NOT
"I... AM... A GODDESS! I... AM... A QUEEN!" Wait wrong game
@@blacktigerpaw1 LMAO. Meanwhile Kratos is off doing bigger and better things in Midgard.
@@beckyweiss6072 If the Vikings Assassin's Creed is anything like this, Kratos can save us twice.
@@blacktigerpaw1 Given the ending of the most recent game, we'll probably be looking for Atreus to save us as well.
That is not a hecatonchires. They have over a hundred arms and fifty heads. This thing has ten arms and one head. The name literally means hundred handed ones
Remember how excited we were at the end of AC1, back in 2007, when the apple of Eden showed a map of the world, with artifacts being pin-pointed to different places?
aaahh of course!
Bro this is wild imagine a game franchise that’s gone from killing crusaders with a wrist blade to stabbing a giant mesh of arms and legs with a light spear
Would have been an even better DLC if Zeus made an appearance or was a boss fight.
I was expecting to see Zeus as well in here...
Zeus technically made an appearance in Revelations since he's also called Jupiter which did make a cameo
go play god of war
I dont really care if this game is good or bad, everyone has his opinions, but you have to admit that they ruined the saga, and the next games will be like this. they dont even know how to continue the story, just make a new game already, dont call it assassins creed.
I admit
Can't always stay the same
careless Quit being a smartass defender of this bullshit just because the game's "fun". If it can't stay the same, that means it's different and therefore not Assassin's Creed, boy.
There are many games and RPGs that are fun. When I go for Assassin's Creed, I go for it for that feel of being an assassin, not just for having fun. Origins and Odyssey are absolutely fun as games, but it's sad that I had to reinstall Assassin's Creed Brotherhood to satisfy my desire to play an "Assassin's Creed" game because these new games that are supposed to be Assassin's Creed don't deliver what they're supposed to be about.
So just stop, don't even try!
@@minhajshad2534 lmao butthurt much? and he's right they can't stay the same
Cameron Pack There are two kinds of people here. 1: Actual hardcore fans of the series that are disappointed that the series has become something else. 2: Players that don't give a fuck about a series's identity or theme, and get BUTTHURT over actual fans voicing their genuine disappointment for a REASON, just because they like the game no matter whatever it turn into as long as it's "fun".
The likes of you belong to the second category and therefore, if there's anyone "butthurt" here, it's you. Now fuck off instead of trolling.
Wait wtf is Juno doing here?!
This was an echo of a memory!
Marmer then what was the point of this DLC? To show the Eagle Bearer that absolute order/chaos is bad and the Isu are bad? And to show Layla how to use the staff? This whole DLC was full of me asking “what am I doing here?” And “what was the point of that?” I hope the next game has a better writing team.”
@@ImAfemaleNoob2 yeah, I don't feel like I've learned a whole lot from it
Captain Kefler I agree but I did enjoy learning a bit more about the Isu
@@josephmcmillen1734 Me too, now we know what the Isu look like, especially their culture & technology. Though, Atlantis along with its sister cities - Elysium & the underworld were sympathetic with the humans & they're also hostile towards Eden & other Isu cities.
Siege of Syracuse: *exists*
Ubisoft: nah, we go with Gods and Monsters
Show of hands, who else felt murderous rage from years in the making as soon as Juno spoke?
Nic Waterfill I felt it but ultimately it wasn’t as much rage as when Aita spoke. I literally shouted “You...!”, thinking of all the Sages throughout their history and the terrible, manipulative bs they did to the player character in their schemes across the ages. It all stemmed from Aita’s pompous being. At least a few of them did the right thing but it’s always off screen in some fashion. Juno was also manipulative throughout the series but at least she opened the way to save humanity from the solar catastrophe.
How about first saw 😂
Wow layla has gone into the deep end pretty quickly, somebody pleas give the immortal (?) a straitjacket
I think she's an awful character ;]
@@xLetalis right with ya on this one
@@NoName-yw1pt Let's commission some fanart of Kratos doing the Helios trick on her.
@@blacktigerpaw1
Please
24:01 demonetized!
I was kind of disapointet by the ending
To me this expansion is somewhat of a let down because I enjoyed chapter 1, but not 2 and 3 ;[ at least not as much
@@xLetalis In storyline this expansion is just *shit* though there are very interesting new info for lore in those Codex, but Elysium, Underworld and Atlantis were a lot of fun to explore.
@@yutro213 ikr and same with the mortal realm it was great meeting other characters being in fights and picking whatever side and finding ver historical locations like thermoply
BTW you guys that saying it's trash and blah blah blah remember that the first assassin's were the mercenarys and it kinda show us how everything begins. ac odyssey is the first ac if we go historically
Technically, Kassandra was the responsible, throught Ceasar, for the creation of the Templars.
When I played, I honestly thought that they would merge the: Sphinx, Medusa, Minotaur cyclops together and make a 30 min boos with like 20 different attacks lmao
I'm so glad that Valhalla to a certain degree retconned this DLC. Everything you see is basically an abstract dream. It didn't happen and didn't exist like that. Just like Asgard and Jotunheim, which were basically metaphors for actual events.
Alright so i was thinking that right, what does the real Isu version of this look like then? was the ending of Hades, Elysium and Atlantis Ragnarok?
@@jyhit I assume it was the coronal solar flare which has been a thing since Revelations. They just did a great job in Valhalla to intertwine Norse mythology with Isu lore. Ragnarok was basically another term for the solar flare that eradicated the Isu as we see it in Revelations
And about how the worlds really looked: We just don't know. But the Isu were technologically advanced. It never made sense for Atlantis to look like an ancient cyber Greece. So just assume that Elysium, Hades and Atlantis never existed like that, but were just a simulation created by Alethea. Which is btw something they always made clear. At the end of the Atlantis DLC, Alethea says that the trials were inspired by her time as the dekhastes, but never happened like that.
@@DeviniteHD Bro!!! so Alethia been played Kassandra from the start of her becoming the Heir of Memories!!! Dammn!!! So Alethia is who Juno? and Loki is Aita?
So Layla is the chosen one... Wait until Desmond comes back and has the high ground
Looking back, a 1v1 with a powered up Pope was considered a very radical move by the series, but this somehow makes it seem so grounded.
As a game that offers choices yet those choices only change the one liner response followed by linear story, this is frustrating.
The best part of the game is roaming the world, beautiful setting.
1 dear friend dead,1 bad guy passed out.
What are you gonna do?
Layla:Go back into the animus,i gotta say goodbye to some people.
Baffles me how Alethiea thought that Kassandra should only be the keeper... She was more deserving than Layla. I've literally never hated a game character so much in my life. Kassandra dies next to her. Oh let's juno back into the Animus. Kills her best friend. Oh let me just nip back into the Animus. The writers should be sent to Hades.
Well now it’s been explained why she had Layla have it.
You know, as a fan whos enjoyed the ac series much,the cliffhanger of an ending disappointed me.
fair enough ;]
There's always cliffhangers
The lore of Ac series feels like someone watched too much Ancient aliens or Gaia and said: great, let’s make a game about that. But as long i get to fight cool mythological stuff, sign me in.
Yeah I hated that the mythical creatures are just experiments
Kassandra when she sees the boss wtf we going to die any dark souls character just another day at work
Look at Aita doing Juno's bidding , he is the simp who came before 😂
Beowulf hearing the Hecatoncheires.
"It speaks? IT SPEAKS!!!!:
In Origins all that first civilisation crap was very subdued. In Odyssey it is rampant and that damages the great setting.
Not at all. It fits well with the Greek mythology
@@paradisecityX0 The Greek mythology is nothing more but a corrupted story of the Isu. It isn't in AC lore real. They are like oral traditions that changed over time and the magic elements ruined AC, it was always Sci fi and not magic.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 Supernatural isn't magic
@@paradisecityX0 I never talked a out supernatural stuff at all, I talked about magic, which is clearly what we see here and contradicts the AC lore.
Besides isn't the distinction between the Supernatural and magic too thin to really make a huge distinction here? It's one without a difference. Ac was built around Sci fi, not fantasy.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 What magic?
No it's not. Huge difference. Materialism on the other hand is worse than magic. AC is history and sci-fi like MGS prequels.
I thought Atlantis was beautiful, but I thought it's storyline was the weakest of the 3 episodes. I was hoping there would be an actual story arc that spread across this DLC.
It might've been more exciting if Aletheia was like "Yo Alexios, you gotta go judge Atlantis, but like...you gotta get a key and it's in Elysium." Then things go wrong and you end up in the Underworld. But Hades wants your staff for himself, cause he knows it's true power and that's why he wants to trap you. Then you beat him, and Poseidon is like "you got mad skillz bro, wanna see my huge aquarium?" and you get to go Atlantis.
Instead, this DLC is all about becoming one with the staff and the staff's true meaning is to:
- get enhanced bull attacks
- destroy Atlantis
- and kill doctors
I wish there would've been a more definitive ending. Even Odyssey's main story didn't feel complete to me. I still enjoyed the hell out of it though, despite it not being like the previous games.
yeah... I also felt like Ep 1 and 2 are better, especially 1 with all its different outcomes
Yeah, I honestly agree with this. I'm an Odyssey stan, I also really enjoyed FoA and the fact that they actually chose to embrace the fact that AC has a sci-fi setting, but the story for both the DLCs are absolute messes.
I don’t know if everybody gonna agree with be but I think that Juno is the villain of assassins creed series
She is
Jeez, how is this franchise still going
Ya know honestly if they want to dive into a more deeper story and expand apon the isu civilization then they should just develop a whole game based on them
I mean this game does realize Hekatonchries are Poseidon's uncles, although I guess they forgot Atlas was his cousin as well.... Also what the hell is the point of multiple-choice in this game it just brings down the story more than anything for no good reason. I'd rather have people call me proper names etc and proper dialogue than boring multiple-choice plain dialogue
I felt like it’s not even over, the ending felt unsatisfying it’s missing something
What is it with people in the twenty first century never using guns?
Assassin's Creed was born from Ubisoft's most acclaimed video game series in the early 2000s (and a favourite of mine) Prince of Persia. It was a hack n' slash, action series with mainly fantasy elements. Ubisoft, after that, tried a formula of more stealth focused gameplay with a setting more on the historical side than fantasy, namely, "Prince of Persia: Assassins" which was scrapped and later became the first, the original Assassin's Creed.
Funny how people clamour for new games to return to their original Assassin's Creed roots, when the series itself was born out of a fantasy video game trilogy, and the modern games from Origins have kind of returned to that fantasy phase again. Though, I really miss the stealth focused action too.
What surprised me the most was the ending. Layla does not kill Otto, she leaves the staff far away from her and returns to the animus when OTTO IS STILL ALIVE!!!
I would not be surprised if Otto crawled up to the staff and fled
And worse. She just leaves him there without giving him some medical support
@@NoName-yw1pt that definitely sounds like something she would do anyway
@@David-nq8cv She's alkaliba
Same mistake that ezio did by leaving rodrigo borgia alive.
Think about it, we went from a "son" of a hardeheaded markos in kephallonia to a big time mercenary and arena champion to a demigod in atlantis. damn
Seeing all this, I honestly think that a future AC game will not work unless it will have the same power things, cuz the whole point was the mystery of who/how/where/when questions regarding the Isu or pre-cursor and this game and especially this DLC took that feeling of mystery and shoved it up Pythagoras' ass.
I finished the DLC today and felt the exact same way. It was glorious to be able to play in ISU time period (even though it's a simulation) but now there is no mystery. Everything is explained and the only way I see it going forward is sticking to the ISU story line somehow. Oh and I hope they scrap Layla. All she does is goes psycho then whines. No depth to her at all.
Just as a bit of an old AC fan that's completely fallen off the bandwagon, stopped buying these games after Revelations when I realised what was happening to this series: "Give them a "new" game every year that inches a present world narrative along." But I didn't even realise that they were gonna chuck all that in the bin and go completely wack.
But I gotta say, dipping my toes back into the lore for a moment: I genuinely thought this series had a really cool and original take on the Roman Gods and their mythology, mostly in AC 1 - 3. Mostly, because it really was only in the last century or so that the popularity of using the Greek names for the Gods replaced the Latin names (Thanks Edith Hamilton), it's quite novel for a modern audience to hear names like "Juno", "Jove", "Minerva", "Mercury", "Janus" and "Diana" rather than the upteenth take on their Greek counterparts. But what this really led to was the popular misconception that the Romans copied the Greek Gods whole-sale, which doesn't actually make sense, that implies that the Romans didn't have the majority of their polytheistic pantheon for the first 500 years or so of their existence. They were an inherently very adaptable people and inducted many foreign Gods into their own pantheon, accepting that they lived alongside their existing Gods or another manifestation of a particular God. AC had a really interesting spin on it and it's kind of sad that the present games treat that material as extra baggage that the series would rather forget about... Or whatever was supposed to be happening in that DLC.
i know everyone in the coments want the death of all main characters to be impactful in the long run but... that izu said the best thing, no matter who wins there would still be chaos for the simple fact of the temptation of the artefacts, they should be destroy to end the cycle of violence, or at least make a treaty of peace since no side would have a real way to control anything
Just a reminder people. They killed off Juno in the comics. So this is the last time we will see the MAIN VILLAIN OF THE FRANCHISE!
She is in AC Valhalla. Plus, we don’t know if Juno is really dead as she could’ve copied her consciousness into her humanoid clone body. We didn’t see the whole transfer process in AC Uprising.
Layla: Haha staff make me immortal
Berg: MY LEGS!!! I CANT FEEL MY LEGS!!!!
Suprised that they went so far with Odyssey and with the DLC's imagine Kassandra going on with Kratos
7:39 Audio: They must all pay!
Subtitle: They all must pay!
Jesus christ Ubisoft who was in charge of you audio/dialouge department? Fire them!
Seriously, I loved Origins but Odissey made a big mess on the story. A shame because i quite loved Cassandra character.