When Sonic Boom Came to the 3DS

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
  • The infamous Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric needs no introduction, however, the boom branch of Sonic also received two entries on the Nintendo 3DS. Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal, and Sonic Boom Fire and Ice. Today, we are going to take a lot at the two games and see if the suffered the same fate as the Wii U game...spoiler alert, sort of...but not really.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal
    11:09 Sonic Boom Fire and Ice
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  • @deaglehawkings2543
    @deaglehawkings2543 Год назад +570

    Fire and Ice really goes to show how determined the developers were to fixing most of the stuff that no one liked and refining them to make a somewhat enjoyable experience, and that is something even SEGA doesn't do nowadays since they scrap any concepts that didn't work rather than refining them.

    • @SketchHusk
      @SketchHusk Год назад +16

      ...And I suppose I'll take it as SEGA being forced to their hands considering how much money they spent on the project, ...and how bad the return was.

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 Год назад +29

      Scratch that, Sega will scrap concepts that do work and never return to them

    • @mushroomdude123
      @mushroomdude123 Год назад +26

      @@thejedisonic67 Yep. It’s insane to me how we’ve gone 5 years without a Mania sequel.

    • @Kaplykos
      @Kaplykos Год назад +3

      Bro, Frontiers is bringing back some stuff from the past so that statement no longer applies

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Год назад +11

      @@Kaplykos “some stuff” being the cyberspace levels and that’s pretty much it. The stuff in question are the level themes (and layouts) and I don’t think that counts

  • @noahrichard5091
    @noahrichard5091 Год назад +243

    That shadow impression at 7:27 was so good that it hurts.

    • @Tribow
      @Tribow Год назад +15

      when you see it

    • @LannyLeArtist
      @LannyLeArtist Год назад +8

      IT IS-

    • @opsy9264
      @opsy9264 Год назад +5

      Wysi

    • @acetyler94
      @acetyler94 11 месяцев назад +2

      That sonic impression wasn't bad either

    • @SpongeyPump
      @SpongeyPump Месяц назад +1

      i legit thought it was actually Shadow talkin lmao.

  • @Triff3599
    @Triff3599 Год назад +84

    I thought it was so weird that Sticks the Badger was a main character in Shattered Crystal and the TV show, but relegated to a minor role for a completely optional side quest in Rise of Lyric, where it comes off as if nobody on Team Sonic knows who she is, and nothing indicates she'd shape up to be the fifth member or Amy's best friend.
    Then I realized how Rise of Lyric wasn't even supposed to be related to the TV series until less than a year before release, when SEGA started putting the show's writers on board to change the script. It's very apparent too, as the only things consistent to the show were the main voice cast, the designs of the main characters and some side characters, as well as objects being lifted from it, like the ancient plane(for one episode before it's scrapped and replaced), the Enerbeams(which don't even come from the same shackles from Rise of Lyric), and the blue button Eggman stole from Lyric(which, as indicated in a few episodes, is treated like it was just something Eggman always had; Lyric's robots don't even appear in the show, and Metal Sonic only appears in half of two episodes). Other than that, most of the side characters that do show up in the TV series have completely different personalities, and some with different voice actors. The Ancients are mentioned a few times as well, but the show's remnants of them are so vague that their indirect inclusion matters none.
    On the other hand, characters like Cliff, QNC, and Lyric himself, who were treated with a more major status, don't even get a mention in the show. And even in a post-Rise of Lyric era, the show only strayed away from even slightly referencing that game and further morphed into its own thing entirely going forward to its cancellation, outside of the one episode that suddenly tied into Fire and Ice, then never again, that episode being one of the worst-written in the series(and the only one that lists Pontac and Graff as the main writers).
    Even Rise of Lyric's writing itself, despite being penned by the show's writers, still has a different tone from the show. Sometimes it's serious, but then sometimes characters are just spouting comedic lines.
    It just goes to show how much stuff was being forcefed by SEGA into Rise of Lyric to make it coincide with an unrelated TV show, and even STILL, the game doesn't work as an origin story for the show.
    Rise of Lyric would've been better off taking place in a different universe as originally intended, with Big Red Button being allowed more creative freedom with only some slight intervention from SEGA in terms of character design. No shoving in assets like Shadow or Metal Sonic for painfully glorified minor appearances, no stuffing the script with non-sequitors from writers of an unfitting cartoon, none of that. Rise of Lyric, or Sonic Synergy, should've been allowed to stand on its own, and if the TV show absolutely needed a tie-in game, something similar to Shattered Crystal or Fire and Ice would've relatively sufficed.
    As it stands, Rise of Lyric has nothing to say, nothing to offer, and it's saddening how all it led to was a development team being catastrophically fucked over by a company that TO THIS DAY, doesn't fully understand that its mascots' games need more time in the oven before release.
    It's without a doubt the most notably tragic development cycle a Sonic game has ever been the product of in the 2010s, and it angers me how SEGA seemingly has learned very little from it.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +6

      It really makes me sad. If they really wanted to morph Synergy into Boom, then they could have just done it like Sonic X(Even tho I don't even think that show does it that well), where it's clearly an alternate universe to the games but knowledge about the games still applies. If they played their cards right, they could have even had an eventual crossover between the serious version of the boom-world and the one from the show/handheld-games.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +3

      @@ShockwaveFPSStudios No, that retcon was reverted before it made any proper impact on the IP.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад +3

      Rise of Lyric and Shattered Crystals were both stated to be pre sequels to the TV series so of course of some continuity problems

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 Год назад +122

    Personally, I really enjoyed Fire and Ice. The ability to switch between characters on the fly is something I really wish was in more Sonic games because the colorful character roster is easily one of my favorite parts of Sonic as a whole. The exploration elements were actually pretty enjoyable coming off of Shattered Crystal and I really enjoy the timing based platforming seen through the Enderbeam grappling and Sonic's multiple dashes. Gives you just so much aerial control

  • @celesticnova
    @celesticnova Год назад +240

    Fire and Ice was surprisingly fun so I'll always stand by that game.

    • @michaelcastillo619
      @michaelcastillo619 Год назад +6

      Same, I love seeing how long I can keep the speed going while switching between fire and ice without ever stopping

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад

      Looks better

    • @ressljs
      @ressljs Год назад +4

      Yeah, it's too bad that the Boom sub-franchise was pretty much unsalvageable by the time it came out. Fire and Ice is the only one I have, and I bought it right before I had to get on a 20 hour flight and I was desperate for ANYTHING new. And I was pleasantly surprised.

    • @roseprincessarts
      @roseprincessarts Год назад

      I might plan on getting it, depending what is going on ^^;. I might find that game interesting ^^

    • @zeroxenoverse9251
      @zeroxenoverse9251 Год назад

      ​@@ressljs Blame Sega screwing over RoL.

  • @KaiboStudios
    @KaiboStudios Год назад +201

    And with that we say Sayonara to Sonic Boom. You were meant for greatness, but corporate greed shot you in the heart and SEGA's to blame... they give game development a bad name.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад +6

      And comics

    • @DTFauxClassic
      @DTFauxClassic Год назад +10

      ​@@ShockwaveFPSStudios Part of me is curious if the show got better reception because expectations were set so low? I fully own that I haven't seen much episodes, but the clips shared around mostly seem to point to meta humor, which was Sonic's saving grace around the time when people dogged on the franchise taking itself too seriously... And the general writing feels like you could swap Sonic and friends with any other characters, and little would really change. To take from some other critics, it felt less like a Sonic show, and more like a show with Sonic in it.

    • @zobirismage2813
      @zobirismage2813 Год назад +1

      Nice Clement reference

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +7

      Sonic Boom should’ve only been a TV series like X, imagine if we got Sonic X games with everyone’s favorite character Chris stealing all the spotlight lmao.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +3

      @@DTFauxClassic
      All the jokes and writing felt more fitting for a TV Cartoon and not Video Games.

  • @ShinobiBoyBlue
    @ShinobiBoyBlue Год назад +32

    7:27 Yoo you hit that impression!🔥

    • @AltKaxREAL
      @AltKaxREAL Год назад +2

      I actually got surprised a bit there due to how good it sounded!

  • @armae1497
    @armae1497 Год назад +25

    It's kind of weird how Sonic Boom Fire & Ice was the last truly handheld exclusive Sonic Game.

  • @destronlaserwave9566
    @destronlaserwave9566 Год назад +23

    7:28 7:58 Those are scarily good Boom Sonic and Shadow impressions, nice job.

  • @Rogerregorroger
    @Rogerregorroger Год назад +53

    "Sonic Boom's so boring, I can feel my soul gradually leaving my body"
    Jup, my thoughts 100%.
    This is the only Sonic game I never managed to beat, not because it's too hard, but because my brain leaves to a different planet after 10 minutes of gameplay.
    The artwork's nice, tough.
    Oh, Ice and Fire not getting a seperate video? Shame, I do like that one. I mean, compared with the other Boom games.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад +1

      K

    • @ChevySamk
      @ChevySamk Год назад +2

      omg its the guy mentioned in the video are you gonna dissect frogs next

    • @lucaslixoso5420
      @lucaslixoso5420 Год назад

      I was considering maybe getting Fire and Ice to see if its truly decent, i haven't played a Sonic Boom game before

    • @ahmedhasan4966
      @ahmedhasan4966 Год назад

      @@lucaslixoso5420 how was the game?

  • @impressivebutt8484
    @impressivebutt8484 Год назад +14

    In Fire and Ice, Sonics spin dash and air dash is one of the most fun sonic movement in the series tbh. You can go so fast and makes speedrunning the levels that much more fun. I think it’s a short fun good ride.

  • @neonjm8289
    @neonjm8289 Год назад +98

    Damn, this retrospective is almost over, and Frontiers is right around the corner, kind of a crazy journey ngl.
    Also speaking of that part where you mentioned how people started to look back at older games, and the whole "era" wars, I myself have replayed quite a bunch of older Sonic games and I have to say:
    My opinions on a number of them have changed drastically as well, retrospect can be such a scary thing at times can't it?

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +13

      People who started in the 2010s and beyond certainly have the advantage that they are able to see the entire catalogue of the series in context. I have an easier time appreciating the good parts of Secret Rings now that I know that(ignoring Free Riders) they never put out another game suffering from unfinished controls. But it must have been scary as heck back then, considering it came out just a year after 06 and Sonic Genesis GBA.

  • @dudujencarelli
    @dudujencarelli Год назад +9

    There was also a Sonic Boom mobile game released at the same time as Sonic Runners. It was called Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom.
    Essentially a sequel to the original Sonic Dash, but with less characters and levels, plus you get to control the enerbeam with the iPhone's motion sensing.

  • @vlionheart
    @vlionheart Год назад +18

    I'm shocked that I completely forgot that Fire and Ice existed until now. I even remember the weird spinoffs but Fire and Ice was totally erased from my mind.

  • @blazingsonic
    @blazingsonic Год назад +5

    No Sonic Lego Dimensions was actually pretty good and felt like a small sequel to Sonic Generations.

  • @traci7351
    @traci7351 Год назад +28

    I somehow got a bugged copy of Shattered Crystal, one of the REQUIRED collectables wouldn't spawn in and would keep me from leaving the very first stage lmao. A level that would take about 10 minutes I've spent several hours searching for a single thing. I've even looked up where each collectable spawns and went to each location but there was nothing.

  • @megacrashthehedgehog5377
    @megacrashthehedgehog5377 Год назад +12

    As bad as the Boom Era was, I actually think Sonic's inclusion in Lego Dimensions was one of the best extensions of that game. It's not only actually funny, with a lot of the charm of your standard Lego videogame mixed with the world of Sonic. And best of all, it feels like an overall tribute to Sonic's 25 year long history. I think it's pretty underrated.

  • @TheRogueMaverick
    @TheRogueMaverick Год назад +18

    Minor correction:
    Sonic Runners is actually no longer defunct… unofficially. It’s been revived a few years ago as Sonic Runners Revival, which removes all monetization and uses custom servers to make the game playable once more!

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Год назад +1

      I was wondering if there was any progress on a Sonic Runners revival, after PatMac's video long ago.

    • @TheRogueMaverick
      @TheRogueMaverick Год назад +3

      @@miimiiandco - Me too. But after watching one of MattKC’s videos, I became aware of it and BEELINED for the project! I loved it back then and still do today! It’s an easy install for Android, as expected. But it’s also surprisingly easy to install on iOS, even without jailbreaking. Apparently. I have yet to try it though.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад

      .

  • @Howardpower679
    @Howardpower679 Год назад +11

    "sonic was preety cool"
    YES! HE WAS!... but everyone had to loose to finally give it the value it truly deserves... but guess what? it's too late!
    sonic frontiers you have one job, and I hope you achieve that cause i want the real sonic back...i miss it a lot

  • @Cashew1405
    @Cashew1405 Год назад +9

    it's so crazy that after all these years this retrospectives going to be over. These videos were all made really well, always had me exited for the next one

  • @xscythe67
    @xscythe67 Год назад +16

    Fire and Ice has awesome music, they even remixed Sunset Yown from Sonic the Fighters and made a mashup of Ice Cap and Lava Reef

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow Год назад +18

    it's funny how you're keeping pace with Chariii5's streaming series of every Sonic game lately. A good cap off for every game.

  • @shaghilathar3588
    @shaghilathar3588 Год назад +6

    Dude your shadow impression was REALLY on point

  • @miimiiandco
    @miimiiandco Год назад +6

    Sonic Boom was supposed to be a big new sub-franchise, these games remind me of that.

  • @kunmiyu02
    @kunmiyu02 Год назад +3

    7:53 the sonic voice HAHAHAHAHAH i cant🤣

  • @insertsomememereferenceher8483
    @insertsomememereferenceher8483 Год назад +3

    You introduced me to Sonic Dissected and Roger's animations about a year ago with your 06 video.

  • @sunky-rf9ut
    @sunky-rf9ut Год назад +7

    Your sonic reviewing series is a one of the best source of knowledge about the sonic the hedgehog (one of the best documentaries about sonic the hedgehog if you well),keep the hard work goin!

  • @callmezeldaonemoartime
    @callmezeldaonemoartime Год назад +14

    Fire and Ice is not bad, actually a decently enjoyable experience, too bad it was on the 3DS and barely anyone bought it

  • @succubastard1019
    @succubastard1019 Год назад +8

    From what it seems, there was never really a plan to make Rise of Lyric in continuity with the show, they simply changed the game's plot to fit more with the cartoon's tone for the sake of more consistent branding.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 Год назад

      True

    • @BH-98
      @BH-98 Год назад +1

      If they weren’t intending to make it fit in with the continuity then why did they even bother making it a boom game & just leave it as Sonic Synergy

    • @succubastard1019
      @succubastard1019 Год назад +2

      @@BH-98 Brand consistency: make the game and the show promote each other by sharing the "Boom" brand. Sonic X for example, despite taking place in an entirely different continuity than the games of the time, it very much shares the same tone and similar writing to them (it even has probably the most game-accurate portrayal of game Sonic out of any adaptation).
      And besides, even if they weren't canon to one another, it could have potentially given the writers the possibility to just straight up adapt the story of Rise of Lyric into the show in some way for a future story arc if they so wished to, again much like Sonic X did with the stories of SA 1 & 2, but that ended up not even having a chance to work out.

    • @BH-98
      @BH-98 Год назад +1

      @@succubastard1019 in heinsight it was a incredibly poor choice to change the game to fit the boom brand since it undermined the whole brand

    • @succubastard1019
      @succubastard1019 Год назад +3

      @@BH-98 The real terrible choice here was trying to crunch into the Wiiu a game made for far more advanced consoles, wasting immeasurable development time, overworking the developers themselves and expecting the whole thing to work out. Making a show and tons of merchandise is just the side dish (of self-immolation).

  • @10ALundstrom
    @10ALundstrom Год назад +3

    7:27 Very solid Kirk Thornton Impression!

  • @seematahir5970
    @seematahir5970 Год назад +7

    Wait what, Sonic Rush has a dumb plot?8:35
    You can knock on the Rivals games all you want but that's where I draw the line. Eggman Nega is kinda dumb but Blaze is badass, and her arc about defrosting really fits with a Sonic story. This series is built on thematic inversions (Nature vs Technology, Speed vs Strength, the Original vs the Copy, Experience vs Naivete, Past vs Future, etc.) Blaze slots in pretty nicely as the "Isolation" to Sonic & Co's "Teamwork".

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +2

      Bad stories can have good aspects. All it ends up with is Sonic and Blaze semi-randomly running around, having a villainswap that doesn't matter much because the only diffrence between the Eggmen is that Nega is nuts and cream cheering for Blaze to beat up Sonic because violent cream-memes. Most of the dialogue is pretty clunky and not really great either.

    • @ayrtonjoga
      @ayrtonjoga Год назад +1

      His review on Rush said that the story has good intensions and cute moments, but the execution is off
      The dialogue is very stiff, the characters has some weird interactions, and the "friendship is good" message is even more cranked up than in Heroes
      It's an inoffensive and neat story, but kinda flawed and is easy to make fun of

    • @spinballproduction9678
      @spinballproduction9678 Год назад +1

      Upon a revisit to the game I thought Blaze was super annoying in Rush 1 as the game literally beats you over the head that she thinks she can’t depend on overs then gets her ass kicked then thinks “Maybe I should depend on others”. Also there’s the dialogue which is kind of okay at best but it half of it is everyone just saying the power of friendship saves the day all the time. The worst example of this is the last story because after both Eggman’s jump Blaze the characters basically talk about friendship for 8 minutes until Super Sonic and Burning Blaze stop the Eggmen. Blaze goes home in a cutscene that takes eons to get through then the game ends. I mean I don’t think the writing is garbage or anything but it adds to Rush 1 being a snooze fest for me.

    • @seematahir5970
      @seematahir5970 Год назад

      Guys I hear ya, but Sonic games' dubs are usually pretty overly corny and awkward (*see Heroes), that's their charm. Rush just had a lot of nice moments and the actual plot itself wasn't half bad.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад

      @@seematahir5970 Sonic Heroes somehow manages to be slightly worse in japanese than in the dub.

  • @dontask6306
    @dontask6306 Год назад +2

    Fire and Ice was the first Sonic game I ever touched. I was impressed by the speed of the classic and modern Sonic era.
    I already knew the notoriety of Toon's Knuckles from the play videos, but it took me a while to get used to it.

  • @VideosJuandieguinchi
    @VideosJuandieguinchi Год назад +3

    You should make a video about the Sonic Boom show and your opinions on it. That show was my childhood

  • @twoforfive9228
    @twoforfive9228 Год назад +4

    Been looking forward to this all week. Another great one too, keep it up.

  • @GamingintheAM0801
    @GamingintheAM0801 Год назад +5

    You touched on it a little bit, but where the developers tried and failed to add Metroid elements was in the fact that, in Metroid, collectibles aren't arbitrary. You're not just picking up interchangeable tokens or keys in order to progress. Progression in Metroid is linked to Samus' equipment. A pathway isn't unreachable because you lack a key or something, it's because you don't have the High Jump Boots or Morph Ball Bombs yet. Locked doors require certain types of weapons so you can shoot them open. So on and so forth. In this way, progression is inextricably linked to Samus becoming more powerful. Her weapons *are* the keys to progressing.
    But so many other games that try to mimic this design, this game included, just throw a bunch of random arbitrary keys and tokens around and call themselves "Metroid-inspired" when that's really not how Metroid games work.

  • @thejedisonic67
    @thejedisonic67 Год назад +4

    Wonder if you thought about doing one of these perspectives for Pac-Man. It's one of those series that never left, but you sit there at it's catalogue and are bewildered at some of the directions the series went

  • @xgaming2427
    @xgaming2427 Год назад +8

    Shattered Crystal is definitely better than the Wii U game but the problem is that you have to get all the items in each stage just to progress to the next world.

  • @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
    @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313 Год назад +2

    It's pretty clear that SEGA wanted the Boom series to be a mainstay given Sticks appeared in spinoffs like Sonic Runners and Mario & Sonic Rio 2016 on top of the fact SEGA gave the Sonic Boom series its own version of Sonic Dash called Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom.
    But as usual, bad planning and poor management caused the decline of something that could've been amazing had SEGA not poked their heads in to tell Big Red Button what they needed to do and just made something original for Nintendo's failing console. They did it before with Sonic 2006 and made Secret Rings after realizing the Wii couldn't do what they wanted it to do.

  • @togikisses
    @togikisses Год назад +1

    Frontiers is almost here! It will be my first Sonic game in 15 years. I'm soo excited, thank you for all of the Sonic game reviews! I can't wait for your reaction to the new one

  • @MischieviousJirachi
    @MischieviousJirachi Год назад +1

    8:39 i didnt expect you to bring up my damn childhood 💀

  • @johnr.deluca4258
    @johnr.deluca4258 Год назад +4

    I've already made a stupidly long 2 part rambling in the comment section of the previous video about my apologetic admiration towards the _Sonic Boom_ sub-franchise as a whole and how it deserves a second chance for a full redemption arc, so I'll just continue where I left off.
    _Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal_ is better. . .but not that much, but it's sequal though, nah man, that game is a solid time actually, and I'm glad I'm not the only one when viewing the comments here. _Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice_ improves apon its predecessor in nearly every way. It's an underrated gem in my eye, due to at the time, the _Sonic Boom_ sub-franchise dwindling relevance as said in this video, despite from the TV show's continued praise within the fandom, especially when it entered into its superior 2nd season. It was like it was one of few signs of redemption for _Sonic Boom_ , but was cut short because of the lingering legacy that _Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric_ left on the entire sub-franchise. A real damn shame if you ask me *(insert the 2nd part of my comment from the last video here)* .
    In regards about the canonicity of _Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal_ , there's an interview about the game out there stating that this game actually does takes place sometime after it's Wii U sibling title. For the life of me, I cannot find this interview, but GameXplain's review of the game does confirm its existence. Further inspection of the game's plot does contain visual clues that does confirm this as well to a degree. However the characters not remembering Lyric and a a couple other details does muddy the waters a bit in terms of the connections of both prequal games. Therefore as it stands, _Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal_ is technically a stand-alone sequal to _Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric_ .
    Also a correction: Ken Pontac and Warren Graff only wrote one episode for the _Sonic Boom_ TV show.

    • @alex_-yz9to
      @alex_-yz9to Год назад

      this is kinda what happens when Rise of Lyric and Shattered crystal start developement arround the same time and rise of lyric never actually got finished story wise, its likely the shattered crystal team had to go off really nebolous details and never actually got a full explaination... though it is funny that shattered crystal implies that amy literally turned Lyric into a pair of boots after he gets beaten in the final fight.

  • @crimsonstormsurge
    @crimsonstormsurge Год назад

    I think you are the first person I have ever seen actually acknowledge these games

  • @Shinz000_
    @Shinz000_ Год назад

    bro the shadow impression tho like omg it sounded amazing XD

  • @theanonymousgamer4638
    @theanonymousgamer4638 Год назад +2

    NGL Sonic Runners was pretty dope. Glad the fans revived it!

  • @umbrabestia5629
    @umbrabestia5629 Год назад

    Was a about to take a quick nap, sees a j review notification, sleep can wait

  • @cloudshines812
    @cloudshines812 Год назад +2

    Predictions for the titles of J’s next Sonic reviews:
    Why Sonic Mania was a successful nostalgia trip…
    Why Sonic Forces was a disappointing failure…
    And lastly:
    Sonic Frontiers, the good, the bad… and the ugly…

  • @dachannelfire7049
    @dachannelfire7049 Год назад +1

    For some twisted reason the Sonic boom cartoon is my guilty pleasure show

  • @staraptorflock3661
    @staraptorflock3661 Год назад +11

    The Sonic Boom show wasn't that bad

    • @ericplayz6244
      @ericplayz6244 Год назад +1

      Ong the comedic timing and jokes were actually really good in my opinion

  • @EliteFourChad
    @EliteFourChad Год назад +5

    i used to play sonic boom fire and ice and i thought it was fine and it's basically in a box of games i have and i didn't remember i had it till this came out and i still have the same opinion it's fine but my brother should enjoy it (at least i hope so)

  • @SimplySunky
    @SimplySunky Год назад +2

    I personally enjoy Fire and Ice and it's fun blasting through stages while switching characters in the fly.

  • @JE-nr6xw
    @JE-nr6xw Год назад +1

    babe wake up new Js reviews new Js reviews

  • @sun_man35
    @sun_man35 Год назад +1

    I remember when me and my cousin were 6 in 2016. We loved fire and ice! Me and my cousin tried speedrunning it to see which is better, But none the less I love fire and ice.

  • @HeyJayOfficial
    @HeyJayOfficial Год назад

    Hey that’s one of my old interviews in the opening footage! 😅

  • @landontrahan5770
    @landontrahan5770 Год назад +1

    This is awesome. I do plan to play these along with Rise of Lyric on my LooneyTuneLegend channel.

  • @bebopknux5857
    @bebopknux5857 Год назад +2

    The one thing I never liked about Fire & Ice was that it showed a comptent company was behind it, They put effort into taking the critiscm and making a better game to then be basically told "You fell off" because Boom was dead to most people, genuine shame since yeah it's alright. But I like seeing game devs improve on what they had especially being one myself. They just needed to add more to the game as there are some neat challenges there, but it needed to achieve more than just that and amy.

  • @MrSupersonic2012
    @MrSupersonic2012 Год назад +2

    I played a demo for Shattered Crystal before it came out. I thought it was okay, but didn't pick up the game when it came out. I did get it on the eShop when it was on sale for like 5 bucks. I'd say for what the game is, that's an alright deal.

  • @pawelthesans09
    @pawelthesans09 Год назад

    That’s a good review!

  • @jgoofy8233
    @jgoofy8233 Год назад +4

    This is unfortunately the first Sonic game I've ever played on 3DS, but Sonic Lost World proved to be pretty fun for like 2-3 full playthroughs

    • @GenerationZ313
      @GenerationZ313 Год назад

      I used to find it odd that Sonic Lost World was a 3D game and the Sonic Boom games were not but now I realize that may have been because of a low budget.

    • @smashmaster521
      @smashmaster521 Год назад

      @@GenerationZ313 I wonder what caused that to happen.

  • @Fractorification
    @Fractorification Год назад +2

    The reception Sonic fans had for the handheld titles when they came out really bothered me. The passionate ones initially defended the Wii U game on the basis that “it was trying something new for the franchise” and we needed to give it a chance. But, then when that one failed, they suddenly changed their tunes with the 3Ds games claiming it “good traditional side scrolling action”. So all that talk about Boom trying new things was BS when the 3Ds games were praised for being traditional 2D Sonic gameplay.
    Talk about goal post shifting.

  • @flatmanv2
    @flatmanv2 Год назад +1

    I love your vids dude

  • @sawwt.hedgehog
    @sawwt.hedgehog Год назад +1

    The only thing positive I can say about Rise of lyric is the animation in the cutscenes. The characters are really expressive in them.

  • @Wtfisulookin10
    @Wtfisulookin10 Год назад +2

    Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Re4R
    It should be a fun video to enjoy listening. Then again i enjoy listening to you and your videos.😉

  • @Tribow
    @Tribow Год назад

    I forget J can do some fairly solid voice acting sometimes

  • @b_e_p_i_s_m_a_n6212
    @b_e_p_i_s_m_a_n6212 Год назад

    After watching J cover the Sonic Boom games, I'm convinced more than ever that the entire fanbase collectively clocked out on the series for a few years until Mania/Forces were announced.

  • @giroandkarin2822
    @giroandkarin2822 Год назад +1

    Shattered Crystal is a guilty pleasure of mine. Yeah, it's teddious to collect everything and the writting is kinda stupid. But it was the first 3DS game I ever bought, so I have a bit of nostalgia for it

  • @nav23672
    @nav23672 Год назад +3

    Finally a new video

  • @michaeloverton04
    @michaeloverton04 Год назад +1

    14:26, Johnny: "Steam."

  • @Eyeball786
    @Eyeball786 Год назад

    BRUH at 7:58 that sonic voice was too real

  • @nebbynetwork2089
    @nebbynetwork2089 Год назад

    7:28 spot on impression

  • @Stormvix
    @Stormvix Год назад

    grinding collectibles to progress is the main reason I haven't finished Unleashed

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon Год назад +4

    5:25
    Amogus

  • @TheRealAmericanMan
    @TheRealAmericanMan Год назад +1

    I just beat both of the first Boom games this week and maybe it’s the Wii U game being patched but idk man I had more fun with it than Jak 3 or the PSP Jak game.
    And the 3DS game was more than fine, better than Zip Lash and Hey Pikmin. Similar games that somehow reviewed far better.

  • @devonwilliams5738
    @devonwilliams5738 Год назад +2

    Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal getting a sequel when so many other games that deserved it more didn't is an insult.

  • @colinmiyamoto2190
    @colinmiyamoto2190 Год назад

    You know what’s funny is that I only knew about Fire and Ice because I’d always drop by Carl’s Junior for a soda when walking from school and saw that they were the toys for the kids meal

  • @Eclin
    @Eclin Год назад +1

    It’s okay. At least they tried to polished it and delayed it, iirc, something that Sega don’t do often.

  • @Mafon2
    @Mafon2 Год назад

    Sticks was a very fun character. They also did a good job making others entertaining. One of the best iterations of characters, IMHO. Yes, even Knuckles and Knuckles.

    • @tacoman422
      @tacoman422 Год назад +1

      I did actually enjoy Knuckles in the show, though I do credit that in part to the fact that Travis Willingham has a great voice and delivery for that sort of character.

  • @BH-98
    @BH-98 Год назад

    14:26 Oh come on it's a bit more than that.
    "Water... Boiling Water... Evaporation."

  • @nimavaziri9866
    @nimavaziri9866 Год назад

    Sonic boom fire and ice is a game that i hold to my heart as its my favorite

  • @890ilopk5
    @890ilopk5 Год назад

    Another problem with Shattered Crystal's collectables is the tokens. Tokens would be used to unlock "trophies" in the game, but there were more trophies than there were tokens. There also a "mini-game" where Knuckles would give you 1 token a day. It also couldn't be cheesed by changing your 3DS time. So if you wanted to 100% Shattered Crystal, you would have had to open the game everyday and get that token, even after you got all the level's collectables.

  • @JacksonBlea-sn3oq
    @JacksonBlea-sn3oq 10 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with you about everyone being sick of boom in 2015 and everyone being more sick of boom by 2016 especially since once mania and forces were announced everyone forgot about boom for obvious reasons and I personally would’ve much rather take a third story book game and another sonic rush game over freaking sonic boom

  • @tek3576
    @tek3576 Год назад

    8:30 the fact that these haven't improved in animation or art is funnier than the videos themselves

  • @questionablecollector5022
    @questionablecollector5022 Год назад

    I remember as a kid. It kept telling me knuckles stepped out so I would just keep checking everyday to see if he came back yet 😂

  • @humancollins5626
    @humancollins5626 Год назад

    I like the Roger impression lol

  • @MarcusDandridgeDee_Kae
    @MarcusDandridgeDee_Kae Год назад

    I remember years Ago Sega once Posted art of Boom Sonic and Eggman Playing a Nintendo switch My guess is a Boom Game may have been at one point planned before it was Scrapped

  • @l1uchill
    @l1uchill Год назад

    It is hard being a sonic fan but rather it be a good game or a bad one I'm still a fan! Sonic mania was awesome and I know once Sega Finally realizes that sonic is a character a lot of people are still invested in and rooting for they'll make a great game one that the fans will love!

  • @carlemmerson2035
    @carlemmerson2035 Год назад

    The only Boom game I've played is Fire & Ice. I picked up the demo back in college, and I remember I actually quite liked it as a demo, but I didn't feel like it would work as anything bigger than that.

  • @beanmchocolate3900
    @beanmchocolate3900 Год назад +1

    I completely forgot Fire and Ice existed... Mania stuck with me more.

  • @love4real684
    @love4real684 2 месяца назад

    I really wish they put more effort into the sonic boom franchise as its one of my favourites, for the show alone I think it was pretty entertaining, but maybe lacked in some story or consistency with characters, still one of my favourite sonic shows. maybe I have rose tinted glasses but I think that rise of lyric was actually decent ?

  • @DecadoPrime
    @DecadoPrime Год назад

    J spitting facts out here

  • @banobobot
    @banobobot Год назад

    My man put 3DS Boom Knuckles on the thumbnail.

  • @omarmendez0402
    @omarmendez0402 Год назад +1

    That why we'll never see Sticks the Bangler again. RIP to her.

  • @Fantazious
    @Fantazious Год назад +3

    Very enjoyable review, just wanted bring up a slight detail on the writing for Sonic Boom & the games writing. Pontaff was actually responsible for the writing of both Shattered Crystal & Fire and Ice. Which is why both games have shit writing. Also the boom tv series never really used Pontaff at all for the writing of the show. They only wrote 1 episode called "Return to Beyond the Valley of the Cubots" which is regarded to be one of the worst episodes of the series. Mostly of the tv show actually had moderately solid writing compared to the extremely childish writing Pontaff would make.

    • @alex_-yz9to
      @alex_-yz9to Год назад

      yeah the actual writing of Boom is peppered with so many actual funny jokes in general its amazing

  • @stonecoldsteveaustin2095
    @stonecoldsteveaustin2095 Год назад +1

    I’m Stone Cold Steve Austin, WHAT!?

  • @SMILYTHESMILEY
    @SMILYTHESMILEY Год назад

    I know the 3ds cutscenes have a lower resolution but I think they look better in terms of shadows and animation

  • @zorrobuenaonda440
    @zorrobuenaonda440 Год назад +1

    Pontaff really only wrote one episode the show

  • @abneramaya1736
    @abneramaya1736 5 месяцев назад

    14:26 And water vapor.

  • @erikbihari3625
    @erikbihari3625 Год назад +1

    Maybe after This retrospective is done, how about inviting guests to spice up you're none game reviews, like revaluating a certain"Galaxy fare(2x) away"?😉 Did same with dark age Sonic!

  • @HazeX2
    @HazeX2 Год назад +1

    Kinda sad Boom didn't do well. I enjoyed the 3DS games and this series was the only time I liked Roger as Sonic.

  • @realer2748
    @realer2748 Год назад

    fire & ice feels like a licensed movie game

  • @ChannelPup
    @ChannelPup Год назад +1

    I might be mistaken, but I don't think Pontac and Graff worked on the Boom TV series. The most evidence I have of that though is that the TV series is actually funny.