The early 2000's was the best period of Sonic IMO because no matter where you fit on the spectrum, you had something to sink your teeth into. Love the new 3D Style with a more serious story? Adventure games are for you Not a fan of 3D and just wanna play the old Genesis 2D stuff? Mega/Gems Collection awaits. Newer fan that wasn't around in the 90's but you wanna experience 2D with a different take/look? Advanced games are there. Have the urge to try something different and out the box but still represents sonic? Sonic Battle, Heroes etc. No matter what kind of fan you were, SEGA threw bones at everyone and made sure you as a fan weren't alienated. Sure, the 2000's wasn't the peak of Sonic's success or popularity. However, from a fandom standpoint it was the golden years because every genre of sonic game got some kind of love.
Early 2000s were the most popular Sonic ever was at any point after the 90s & I dare say that was Sonic's Golden Age. Don't forget Sonic X was a thing at that time as well. Heroes was a 3D Sonic Game made to appeal to the fans of the Classic 2D Games.
The Advance series (and Battle) are very underrated. They are not perfect but I think they are great entries to the Sonic series, with Advance 3 being a perfect send off to the "Adventure era".
Honestly, as great as these early-mid 2000s (2002 - 2004) games are (Sonic Advance 2 and Sonic Battle partially, but Sonic Advance 1 and especially Sonic Advance 3 absolutely), I would be in the vast minority of people (to the point of literally being the only one, at least that I know of) that would consider the DreamCast Era to be the turn of the 3rd millennium (1998 - 2001) and then the Advance era (Sonic Heroes being one of its games) to be, as I mentioned before, the continuation of the early 2000s (2002 - 2004). Otherwise, I would just consider the entireties of the decades/eras to be this: 1990s (from Sonic the Hedgehog 1 in 1991 to Sonic R in 1997): Classic 2000s (from Sonic Adventure 1 for the DreamCast in 1998-99 aka the end of the last millennium to Mario & Sonic at the Vancouver (where I’m from, btw) 2010 Olympic Winter Games and Sonic & Sega All/Stars Racing from late 2009 aka the end of the 2000s to early 2010 (February, to be exact) aka the beginning of the last decade: Experimental 2010s (from Sonic 4: Episode 1 in 2010 to Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 (or in this case, 2021, despite being released in… wait for it…) Summer Olympic Games in 2019): Meta (formerly Modern) Era 2020s: Revival Era (hopefully)
@@kieranstark7213 Don't really get that "meta" era naming (having 3 non-forth-wall breaking jokes and meme twitter isn't enough IMO). What's wrong with classic/adventure/(modern/boost)? (all mainline adventure era games play like sonic adventure but with a spin of 3 characters/guns/autorun/being barely functioning, and with spin-offs they form one distinct continuity, thus adventure name)
I guess where J’s Reviews would invent the term “Meta” (re: Cartoon Network’s Sonic Boom where they actually made its self-referential humour work) to describe the 2010s Sonic (even though yes, the franchise had its meta moments) is because people are sick and tired of insufferably weak writing for the Sonic characters.
My opinions on these games: Sonic Advance: Good Sonic Advance 2: Great Sonic Advance 3: The best GBA Sonic game Sonic Pinball Party: Good for what it is Sonic Battle: Awesome Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis: AWFUL
@@brian_Austin27 I thought its level design was great. Idk why people hate it so much, when Sonic Advance 2 had Sky Canyon which is worse than every zone in Advance 3 combined.
@@YoshifreakZX also I believe the real reason people hated advance 3 so much was because of the pairing mechanic. Sonic was no doubt the best character paired with anyone. But characters like Tails and Knuckles we'll get restrictions on their abilities depending on who you paired them with. It didn't bother me so much but I hated pairing knuckles with Sonic, How they took away his glide and replaced it with a headbutt lol. Still I played advanced 3 More than the others.
@@cesarcastillo7129 Yeah the Genesis games do share these same problems (especially Sonic 2), but the Sonic Advance trilogy only worsen those problems. Multiple times in the Advance trilogy, I would use a spring only for a badnic to be waiting for me at the top, it's almost tradition for at least one stage in each Advance game to start you in front of a near unavoidable bottomless pit completely out of the camera's view, and everybody a Dimps MUST have sleep on a bed of spikes their entire life because there's spike beds everywhere! You try to look for secrets, you get impaled on spikes. You try to do regular platforming, hidden spikes will impale you. You go down a pit the game wants you to go down, not without getting impaled on spikes first. You try to go fast and enjoy the game, the spikes will put a stop to that... Then impale you for flinching. It makes me so mad because the characters feel excellent to control, but the levels feel like some kid's "hard" Mario Maker levels.
@@cesarcastillo7129 If it's possible, I'd like to dedicate myself one day to make a Sonic Advance trilogy mod that throws every level in the trash, and remake them all from scratch. Just so I can finally savour how the developers crafted the controls for each of the characters in each game.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Yes please fix them, that's the main reason it took me so long to beat Sonic Advance 2 & 3 in the first place. Sonic Advance 1 had this problem too but not to the extent of the other two games.
I think Sonic Advance 2 is one of the best 2D Sonic games, perhaps next to only Sonic 2. The biggest problem with 2D games has always been that the game mechanics are designed to encourage you going fast, but then the level design keeps breaking your flow. Sonic Advance 2 has like the best flow out of any 2D Sonic game.
I hate how everything built up from the Adventure Era has just been forgotten and abandoned, especially story wise, everything these characters experienced was just pushed aside, Cream's development during her and Emerl's capture, how she needs to fight, what Shadow went through, what and who he is and would do, the lore and continuity, and so much more, ALL OF IT IS GONE NOW and FOR WHAT? -Also, about Amy in Sonic Battle, I have no problem with it, remember her, her fangirl and lover side is apart of her character, it SHOULD be shown off shouldn't it? Her great sides will always be there but one game where she's her usual self should be no issue, heck, in her very own Episode, Cream while also having a disliking for how Amy behaves sometimes even says "she's the strongest girl I ever knew" or something along those lines. And she even trains so she can protect Emerl
I know exactly what you mean, & it's why Sega of Japan never should have left SoA in complete control of the series 10 years ago. The 1st thing they did was replace the entire staff hiring unfitting English VAs for Sonic, Shadow, & Amy alongside 2 lead writers with no knowledge of the series. They let the series be reduced to a parody of itself starting in Sonic Colors & damaged the series reputation so badly that it may never actually recover. SoA doesn't understand how the Sonic Series is supposed to be with them forgetting that Sonic was supposed to be cool yet making him lame for the entire 2010s Decade. Sega of Japan should have issued mandates to kill SoA's absurd mandates if you ask me. Cream is 1 of the 3 most popular characters in Japan for the series yet she's been absent from all the actual games since Generations for no real reason. Fans of Sonic Adventure & 2000s Sonic have suffered for too long because of the braindead Stateside Branch of Sega. The Story & Characters were what made me a fan of the series & those have been absent for 10 years. The Sonic Series was only trying to be mediocre the past decade, while prior to that Sonic was actually good because the games were trying to be great.
Yeah they kept building up lore till, sonic heroes decided to forget all of that, and forces destroyed any sense of canon with the alternate dimension crap with classic sonic.
As someone who strongly (and respectfully) disagrees with your take on Amy Rose in SB, nobody can ever say the same compliments about her in Sonic Free Riders.
I have played all 3 Sonic Advance titles with Advance 2 being my personal favorite but screw the methods it takes to get the Chaos Emeralds in each game not worth it
@@Klonoahedgehog not to this point. In classics you are fine with a giant ring or 50 rings somewhere. In advance, you need to suffer to get even 1 emerald
@@GrayFoxHound9 Sonic 1 & CD required you to finish the level with at least 50 rings for 1 chance at an unfair Special Stage. Sonic 2 & 3K were the Classic games in which it was easiest to collect all the Emeralds. Advance you have to find 7 hidden springs, each of which gives you 1 chance at a difficult special stage. Advance 2 & Advance 3 are much more convoluted to access the special stages. Rush games had good special stages that were much easier to access. Colors Wii was trash that made you hunt down every dang Red Ring in the game just to collect the Chaos Emeralds which was such a pain to unlock Super Sonic. Let's just say it was a bad game that critics praised to reduce the series to a parody of itself, which it has been for the past 10 years. We can only hope Project 2021 is a return to form for 3D Sonic after all these years like what we got in the Adventure Games.
Sonic Battle is an epic game. It honestly has an awesome story. i love the sprite work and the city designs. I love the characters, especially Shadow in this game. This game is fkin gold. How can you not think it's a 10/10 for a GBA game???
Because actually playing the campeign is boring IMO especially beating a character then getting back up and having to fight them again now with 10 lives.
Honestly the fighting is the worst part about it. You get juggled, the fighting is boring, the emerl thing is cool but painful at the start when he’s really weak, and honestly the only good thing about the game is the amount of content and the story
Nah, he's right and broke it down perfectly. Emerl and his customization, awesome. The game looks beautiful. The story is amazing. But this is still a fighting game, and the fight mechanics are far from perfect. It is fun at first but then it becomes tedious at best and frustrating at worst. By the end of the game I found myself cheesing my way through the fights with cheap spamming strategies, which I do not enjoy. And the reason why I had to do it was because you have no choice, if you want to actually have fun with the fights the enemies will absolutely demolish you with only 3 or 4 hits. If it had good fighting mechanics and level design, yes, it would be a near perfect game. But it doesn't.
Sonic advance 2 is my favorite one on gba with Sonic advance 3 being my second favorite. Thank you two for being honest about every single advance game; It's really rare that I find a video nowadays that's pretty much all around reviewing the good and flaws about the game instead of just calling and praising it to be the best ever.😌
Sonic Advance 3 is one of my favorite 2D games ever. Sure, it might be brutal, but as someone who played Sonic Unleashed a ton, I love the challenge it gave me. It isn't too unfair. I also like Advance 1 and 2. Advance, because it's simple and fun, however it isn't really original. Advance 2 was exhilarating! Every characters blasts through the levels were a great feelin', but the levels were only made for that, so it was pretty samey after a while. Advance 3 fixed that and made the levels more platformey and fast at the same time (maybe that's why the physics were like feathers). I can say though that getting the Chaos Emeralds is a huge chore, especially Advance 2. Sonic Battle... I really like the story a whole lot, but the gameplay really, Really overstays its welcome. Rouge and Knuckles Story were painful. But the rest is good for what it is. I hope SEGA can Re-release the Advance trilogy, because I really like the whole package. Make it happen!
I disagree with Amy in Advance 1, I never felt like her momentum affected the gameplay at all as everyone seemed to move as a reasonable speed even if there were obvious difference (Sonic being fastest, Amy being the slowest) and after replaying it multiple times I find Amy to be the most fun I've had with Sonic Advance and Sonic the worst, namely because I found Sonic interacts with things the worst of the 4. Once you learn Amy's playstyle her acrobatics complement the level design (especially if you hammer flip on loops/terrain slopes) and she easily destroys every boss better than any character because of her range. In comparison Sonic has the hardest time dealing with any boss and I feel like if I ever wanted to get that classic feel with the familiar style I'd just use Tails or Knuckles who deal with situations better than Sonic. Amy is pretty much the to-go option for veterans who wish to challenge their skills, all while experiencing the single most creative twist to the core gameplay that proves you can have playable characters that can be fun without relying in them being clones like Tails and Knuckles. Imo Amy's gameplay is pretty much "lets take her mediocre gameplay from SA1 and make it better, and put it in 2D) outside of using Tails or Knuckles to get Chaos emeralds, Amy is my main go to if I ever just want to play Sonic Advance for whatever reason. For my opinions of the Advance series I consider 1 the best because it adds a balance of platforming and momentum based gameplay. Unpopular opinion I REALLY don't like Sonic Advance 2 and consider it one of my least favorite Sonic games. Its an example I would call "Style over Substance" in fact the video titled "Spectacle over Substance" is a perfect description because I feel the overfocus on speed is also the game's biggest issue, to the point where it doesn't feel like you're meant to platform in certain levels that require you to be careful, the SP rings act contradictory to the design and any of the character's abilities don't get used because the design of the level/game doesn't allow for any of their unique abilities to come into play so you're basically controlling 5 Sonic's only Cream has long range. Speaking of which the running bosses suck, as I hate the feeling of flying back after hitting them and each boss is designed with some ranged attacks in mind and with the exception of like 1 or 2 of them it feels like it specifically favors Cream because she has her own range to counter them, which isn't how you should design your bosses. I'm also not a fan of the level design in the second half. That's also not mentioning your reward for needing to get Chaos Emeralds as all 4 characters are things that her unlocked from the start of Advance 1. Which just makes the tedium worse. With Advance 3 it would be my favorite if it were for its most glaring issue. The hit detection is at its all time worst! As much as this era is my favorite era (as well as the best era) the constant issue that continued to persist each of them was the consistently bad hit/collision detection, and I feel Advance 3 is one of the worst, if not the worst. If so much as a pixel of your characters shoe touches near the edge of a block it counts as you getting squashed by it, it also feels like getting hit can be cheap at times, especially when trying to hit bosses. However it does have the best presentation, story and music of the Advance games, seriously Advance 3 has an underrated OST, especially by GBA standards. So I would rank my preferences Advance Advance 3 Advance 2
i was gonna comment the same thing about amy i had fun playing as her, even tho i tortured myself by playing on my phone (also i played with amy on my first playthru, figuted i played enough with sonic so i jumped into advance 1 not knowing amy is meant to be a challenge lol)
@@lootria The strange thing is despite being the "challenge" mode of Advance, Amy is actually the most capable in the game. She's the most well equipped at handling every boss to the point of even delivering multiple hits consecutively, and it feels like the level design was more suited to her playstyle that the other three. In fact I find it harder to play as anyone but Amy, especially Sonic who is literally the worst in every category and has no a single advantage in any way aside from being fast. To me Sonic Advance feels like Amy's game, because her playstyle feels the most adaptable. Not to mention despite it being her Adventure gameplay it fixed all the problems that playstyle had in Adventure 1. If I had to rank the characters I'd go Amy Knuckles Tails Sonic
@@donathan2933 I don't know people just make up stuff the arguments started in 2004 but picked up in 2007 it was made by IGN you can even hear the stupid friend it's argument in Sonic generations where I quote "Sonic and stupid friends are important and thankfully"
Thank you for giving the Sonic Advance Trilogy a second look. The Sonic Trilogy is a huge part of my childhood, and I couldn't have asked for a better era introduction to the franchise. This era fully embraced both Modern and Classic gameplay. The Advance games get better as the entries go down, and Battle is a blast to play . The era is SERIOUSLY underrated, aesthetically, gameplay-wise and story-wise.
As a kid my aunt took me to Walmart to buy me a game. Originally I didn't know what to get so I got Sonic The Hedgehog for the gameboy, I knew nothing about it other than it being the original Sonic. After I bought it I kept looking at the box and I asked if I can return the game and choose out a different one and we did and I ended up getting Sonic Colors instead. I saved myself there
Shouts outs to Amy's imagination being powerful enough that she can just bring into existence an imaginary Sonic to fight alongside her in Sonic Battles.
Advance 3 is one of the most nostalgic games to me. I love the partner mechanic with how much replay value it gives me, and I don’t mind the hubworlds since it allows me to choose each act in any order I want.
Fun fact about Sonic Genesis. The demo that plays if you wait on the title screen uses the originals inputs and input times. Because of this, Sonic will always either die or get stuck in the moving block section of Spring Yard’s demo due to the lag.
Sonic Battle was amazing! Although as a kid, I didn’t realize you can change emerald’s moves till I was deep into the game. I just thought I sucked at the game by how bad I was loosing. But once I learned how to change his moves! On buddy did I love the game and mechanics.
It's amazing that Battle adds quite a lot of Lore with Gerald's journal It turns out that Emerl was the one who started the whole "Artificial Chaos rampage"
@@lpfan4491 info.sonicretro.org/Prof._Gerald%27s_Journal_(Sonic_Battle) Well it's not directly said like that, i mean Battle was made before Shadow's game which was the one that stablished the Artificial Chaos rampage, so i don't think the devs were planning that far ahead In Battle it's mentioned that Emerl caused the accident as unclear as SA2, but like Emerl looks exactly like Chaos, future games can expand upon that (and Gerald's expeditions on Angel Island)
@@hugoflores1093 The jounral entry says that Emerl went on a rampage and destroyed much of the ARK, but doesn't really reference the Artificial Chaos. It could be the same incident but if you look at the events as portrayed in Shadow the Hedgehog it's likely the AC incident happend at a later date, after Emerl had already been handed over to the government. In fact that might even explain why GUN soldiers were stationed on the ARK to begin with - preperation in case of another incident like that. "but like Emerl looks exactly like Chaos, future games can expand upon that" - Dunno if you've ever played Chronicles but that game basically shows that the Gizoids were created by a rival Echidna clan, the Nocturnus. Emerl was essentially the prototype Gizoid designed to harness the Chaos Emeralds. The other ones are weaker but still pretty strong.
Yeah and Emerl being a unique Gizoid that would be able to absorb the Chaos Emeralds for pure dominance during the whole Knuckles Clan war, and Gerald reprogramming him to be a useless war bot, until Eggman scooped him up a couple of years, having the same issue the government had. Some crazy stuff lol
Sonic Advance was my first GBA game ever, and it was the last game my dad gave me before he went to prison for 6 years. I have a lot of nostalgia for the game.
Sonic Advance were the first Sonic games I ever played. I got the games as they came out and I remember like them more as the next one came out. Sonic Advance 3 is easily one of the best 2D Sonic games out there. It's just loads of fun and has so much in it. I could play it over and over and not get sick of it.
Your point on Advance 3 being the culmination of the Adventure era makes Johnny hating it make more sense: it's the culmination of the very thing he hates the most in the Sonic franchise.
Sonic battle is underrated. It's basically sonic another advance game But the story is probably the best I've seen in any sonic game since then. Yes but also because it does something really cool in that it ties in to both the adventure games and advance 3 3 Though I think the game is really solid and fun I still think that advance 3 is by far the most solid sonic game. It has a passable story that doesn't take itself too seriously and has quite enjoyable gameplay with the partners mechanic. Advance 1 is ok And sonic advance 2 is great until sky canyon. Sky canyon is probably the worst stage in any gba sonic game.
I did play Sonic Advance 3 once. And so far, it's actually pretty fun. The first impressions were not so great but later on, I started to really like it. Almost the same deal with Sonic Heroes since the first impressions of these games were not so good. Didn't finish the game though since some of the special stages in order to unlock the true final boss still remain to be checked.
And YES! English is not my first language, but THAT does not mean you have the right to attack or offend someone because of that specific weakness. You are no better than that though (Same for myself who pretty much wanted to spread his own opinions).
2 had the best level design and was a breeze to blast through at break neck speed. 3 is beyond awful with its pits and traps and never letting you build up momentum. It is almost like Advance 3 punishes you for trying to go fast
these games will probably always bring nostalgia from Flash Times, because these are times i most commonly associate with Sprite Animations and some Sonic Flash Game used these sprites and custom made for that art-style sometimes... and i'm feeling old for some reason...
Sonic advance 2 was my first sonic game too! I got it as a communion gift of all things. Talk about the sonic and Christianity meme. Still I'm glad I got it as my first experience with Sonic. Nostalgia really makes me think fondly of the second Advance game.
8:16 I think Character-in-Depth is lowkey calling SA1 the real Sonic 4. lol I mean he's not wrong. It WAS the next big Sonic game Sonic Team made after 3&K but I think the statement alone would trigger a lot of retro fans.
I have yet to play any of the Advance games at all, most of my Dimps experience comes to the Rush trilogy. If I ever get to play the Advance games, there's only a few things I fear: - Chaos Emeralds - Late game level design (which is also an issue I had with Sonic Rush). - Advance 3. Some people dislike it for its level design and hub worlds among other things, but then there's people like you who enjoy it a lot. So I guess I'll just have to try it and see.
13:09 *DO NOT* fucking apologise for this you're absolutely right, there is no excuse for the bastardisation of shadow that came after 2010. you had a great point, and we all agree with you.
Oh no, I definitely think current Shadow is a disgrace. But the thing I mentioned was how I called Shadow an edgelord in Sonic 06, which I don't think is true at all.
@@JsReviews that's true _but_ shadow in his game actually _is_ an edge lord due to the horrible english localization, whereas in the japanese version he's closer to his sa2 and heroes personality, i hope you mention this in your review.
Oh wow. I was just re-listening to Sonic Advance 3's soundtrack. I know the game has issues but I enjoyed it as a kid and the soundtrack is so slept on. It's too good.
Sonic battle is amazing. Also the weird fact that omega is mentioned even if the game was released 26 days before heroes and it also takes place after shadow the hedgehog
@@backslash_bks Yeah, but how is that evidence? Battle is contradictory to Heroes in every way. We simply can assume that Rouge met Omega somewhere in timeline after Adventure 2.
i think sonic advance 2 is the pure representation of sonic games that benefit from being replayed. it's better and pretty fun to speed run it, but anything disregarding that won't be the most enjoyable experience. great vid!
Ever since I got into Sonic in 2020 with my younger brother , I got into emulation of Nintendo DS , GBA and PSP games , and to be honest , I kind of enjoyed playing Sonic Advance 2 and 3 as well as Battle . They are just so fun for me to play.
In exo voice: "but j? 😆😂 you forgot to mention the donkey Kong country trilogy on the gba as well since they were ported from the snes" though on the serious side, this was very useful j, 🙂 I was curious to hear about sonic advance 2 and 3, again from everyone it seems like peoole prefer 2 over 3 and vice versa, since I did see loose cartridges of advance 2 and 3, I only ever played the first advance game in which i still like, 🙂 on a personal note, beautifully done j *and also to the special guests you have as well* also I loved the screams in the sonic genesis stream that night "nooooooo!!!!"
First Sonic game/game ever I played was Sonic genesis, Lmao. I grew up playing it for years and thought it was ok, but I've known it sucked for awhile. I could never get past the boss of labyrinth zone as a kid, which I saw what happened on the vid. But yeah great video, loved playing all of the advanced games, did like Genesis as a kid, And pinball party isn't bad, I just suck at pinball.
I actually beat Sonic 1 Genesis for the first time today after owning it for nearly six years, and I really felt the pain at 20:59 because that happened to me as well. Also, there's a secret shortcut in Labyrinth Act 1 that's kind of difficult to get to, but lets you skip most of the stage, which in that Zone is an absolute godsend, but as I learned the hard way, they didn't include it in S1 Genesis. Easily the worst port I have ever played in my life.
The Sonic advanced series sounds good but not great but I hope it makes it as a collection on future Sega collections. I love classic Sonic games but I missed out on some games. Cool video. ^_^
For growing in the gba, I am proud of being able to grow up with advance 1, quite a nifty lil games on a nifty lil plataform with those 5ish somewhatish great games
Man, I know, it's a bad game, but I just love Sonic Battle. I replay it every other year. It's just so cool to have a Sonic fighting game with such a great story. Emerl is one of my favorite Sonic characters.
I like the story in Sonic Fighters, but I think the gameplay can be enjoyable if one has the patience for the repetitive fights. And as someone who grew up with Sonic Advance 3, let's just say it's satisfying that trumped the others.
I adored Sonic Advance 2! It was also the 1st(& only) gba game i ever had. It was also the 1st sonic game i owned! Loved the speed boosting and levels plus the soundtrack!
Great video its good know character in depth is aware of Japanese manuals and I hope both you cover Japanese versions of sonic games because they featured better writing and so on all the games are translated and subtitled by windii on her channel so please give her some love.
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Oh god I’ve been caught
today's kids will never understand
@@SandowMovesets Bruh I'm 14
Childhood
@@wadribrab751 that's still pretty much a kid
I’m also 14 but I used to play that game on my old crappy laptop. I think it was a HP laptop.
I hate that my young self actually bothered to 100% Sonic Genesis...
Rest your soul... You suffered enough :'c
Good god, I was wondering if someone actually bothered playing it longer than 5 minutes, let alone completing it. You have my sympathy.
my cart got broken but it made it smoother and fricked up the physics thats how I beat the game lel
Thats some freaking dedication bro!
You are an actual legend.
The early 2000's was the best period of Sonic IMO because no matter where you fit on the spectrum, you had something to sink your teeth into.
Love the new 3D Style with a more serious story? Adventure games are for you
Not a fan of 3D and just wanna play the old Genesis 2D stuff? Mega/Gems Collection awaits.
Newer fan that wasn't around in the 90's but you wanna experience 2D with a different take/look? Advanced games are there.
Have the urge to try something different and out the box but still represents sonic? Sonic Battle, Heroes etc.
No matter what kind of fan you were, SEGA threw bones at everyone and made sure you as a fan weren't alienated. Sure, the 2000's wasn't the peak of Sonic's success or popularity. However, from a fandom standpoint it was the golden years because every genre of sonic game got some kind of love.
Early 2000s were the most popular Sonic ever was at any point after the 90s & I dare say that was Sonic's Golden Age. Don't forget Sonic X was a thing at that time as well. Heroes was a 3D Sonic Game made to appeal to the fans of the Classic 2D Games.
Don't forget all the flash games online. That's how I was introduced to the franchise and I can't be more thankful for that.
@@WaterKirby1994 yeah the 2000s was the golden age there was something for both 3d and 2d fans
but there was the 2010s (sigh)
I have a feeling that the 2020's will rival the 2000's, due to the recent leaks
@@XlWolfMaster Lets hope so man.
The Advance series (and Battle) are very underrated. They are not perfect but I think they are great entries to the Sonic series, with Advance 3 being a perfect send off to the "Adventure era".
Honestly, as great as these early-mid 2000s (2002 - 2004) games are (Sonic Advance 2 and Sonic Battle partially, but Sonic Advance 1 and especially Sonic Advance 3 absolutely), I would be in the vast minority of people (to the point of literally being the only one, at least that I know of) that would consider the DreamCast Era to be the turn of the 3rd millennium (1998 - 2001) and then the Advance era (Sonic Heroes being one of its games) to be, as I mentioned before, the continuation of the early 2000s (2002 - 2004).
Otherwise, I would just consider the entireties of the decades/eras to be this:
1990s (from Sonic the Hedgehog 1 in 1991 to Sonic R in 1997): Classic
2000s (from Sonic Adventure 1 for the DreamCast in 1998-99 aka the end of the last millennium to Mario & Sonic at the Vancouver (where I’m from, btw) 2010 Olympic Winter Games and Sonic & Sega All/Stars Racing from late 2009 aka the end of the 2000s to early 2010 (February, to be exact) aka the beginning of the last decade: Experimental
2010s (from Sonic 4: Episode 1 in 2010 to Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 (or in this case, 2021, despite being released in… wait for it…) Summer Olympic Games in 2019): Meta (formerly Modern) Era
2020s: Revival Era (hopefully)
I agree,and i consider advance 1 the true sonic 4.
@@kieranstark7213 Don't really get that "meta" era naming (having 3 non-forth-wall breaking jokes and meme twitter isn't enough IMO). What's wrong with classic/adventure/(modern/boost)? (all mainline adventure era games play like sonic adventure but with a spin of 3 characters/guns/autorun/being barely functioning, and with spin-offs they form one distinct continuity, thus adventure name)
I guess where J’s Reviews would invent the term “Meta” (re: Cartoon Network’s Sonic Boom where they actually made its self-referential humour work) to describe the 2010s Sonic (even though yes, the franchise had its meta moments) is because people are sick and tired of insufferably weak writing for the Sonic characters.
My opinions on these games:
Sonic Advance: Good
Sonic Advance 2: Great
Sonic Advance 3: The best GBA Sonic game
Sonic Pinball Party: Good for what it is
Sonic Battle: Awesome
Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis: AWFUL
I agree completely
I agree a lot of people hate sonic advance 3 because of level design that's it its really good tho
@@brian_Austin27 I thought its level design was great. Idk why people hate it so much, when Sonic Advance 2 had Sky Canyon which is worse than every zone in Advance 3 combined.
@@YoshifreakZX also I believe the real reason people hated advance 3 so much was because of the pairing mechanic. Sonic was no doubt the best character paired with anyone. But characters like Tails and Knuckles we'll get restrictions on their abilities depending on who you paired them with. It didn't bother me so much but I hated pairing knuckles with Sonic, How they took away his glide and replaced it with a headbutt lol. Still I played advanced 3 More than the others.
Mine is:
Advance 1: Great
Advance 2: Boring
Advance 3: Great
Battle: Good
Pinball Party: Good for what it is
Genesis: Terrible
I'd like the Advance trilogy more if it weren't for three things:
>Dickish enemy placement
>Huge bottomless pits
>Hidden spikes
Every sonic game has that lmao
@@cesarcastillo7129
Yeah the Genesis games do share these same problems (especially Sonic 2), but the Sonic Advance trilogy only worsen those problems.
Multiple times in the Advance trilogy, I would use a spring only for a badnic to be waiting for me at the top, it's almost tradition for at least one stage in each Advance game to start you in front of a near unavoidable bottomless pit completely out of the camera's view, and everybody a Dimps MUST have sleep on a bed of spikes their entire life because there's spike beds everywhere!
You try to look for secrets, you get impaled on spikes. You try to do regular platforming, hidden spikes will impale you. You go down a pit the game wants you to go down, not without getting impaled on spikes first. You try to go fast and enjoy the game, the spikes will put a stop to that... Then impale you for flinching.
It makes me so mad because the characters feel excellent to control, but the levels feel like some kid's "hard" Mario Maker levels.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Honestly all that frustration u feel is exactly what I feel with most respawn locations in Sonic 3 & Knuckles lmao
@@cesarcastillo7129
If it's possible, I'd like to dedicate myself one day to make a Sonic Advance trilogy mod that throws every level in the trash, and remake them all from scratch. Just so I can finally savour how the developers crafted the controls for each of the characters in each game.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Yes please fix them, that's the main reason it took me so long to beat Sonic Advance 2 & 3 in the first place. Sonic Advance 1 had this problem too but not to the extent of the other two games.
The Sonic games I’ve heard about for most of my time as a fan, yet have never played. Save for an emulator on my mom’s phone from years ago.
Good games mostly on a emulator
Funny, because this series is what brought me into Sonic. Sonic Battle was the first game i played.
@ً that’s a weird question.
Same, i haven't played them at all yet their my favorite in the series.
21:03 Pure. Anguish.
20:56
I think Sonic Advance 2 is one of the best 2D Sonic games, perhaps next to only Sonic 2. The biggest problem with 2D games has always been that the game mechanics are designed to encourage you going fast, but then the level design keeps breaking your flow. Sonic Advance 2 has like the best flow out of any 2D Sonic game.
INITIATING RECOVERY MODE!
I hate how everything built up from the Adventure Era has just been forgotten and abandoned, especially story wise, everything these characters experienced was just pushed aside, Cream's development during her and Emerl's capture, how she needs to fight, what Shadow went through, what and who he is and would do, the lore and continuity, and so much more, ALL OF IT IS GONE NOW and FOR WHAT?
-Also, about Amy in Sonic Battle, I have no problem with it, remember her, her fangirl and lover side is apart of her character, it SHOULD be shown off shouldn't it? Her great sides will always be there but one game where she's her usual self should be no issue, heck, in her very own Episode, Cream while also having a disliking for how Amy behaves sometimes even says "she's the strongest girl I ever knew" or something along those lines. And she even trains so she can protect Emerl
The problem is that Amy's character is stereotyped to the extreme in Battle
I know exactly what you mean, & it's why Sega of Japan never should have left SoA in complete control of the series 10 years ago. The 1st thing they did was replace the entire staff hiring unfitting English VAs for Sonic, Shadow, & Amy alongside 2 lead writers with no knowledge of the series. They let the series be reduced to a parody of itself starting in Sonic Colors & damaged the series reputation so badly that it may never actually recover. SoA doesn't understand how the Sonic Series is supposed to be with them forgetting that Sonic was supposed to be cool yet making him lame for the entire 2010s Decade.
Sega of Japan should have issued mandates to kill SoA's absurd mandates if you ask me. Cream is 1 of the 3 most popular characters in Japan for the series yet she's been absent from all the actual games since Generations for no real reason. Fans of Sonic Adventure & 2000s Sonic have suffered for too long because of the braindead Stateside Branch of Sega. The Story & Characters were what made me a fan of the series & those have been absent for 10 years. The Sonic Series was only trying to be mediocre the past decade, while prior to that Sonic was actually good because the games were trying to be great.
Yeah they kept building up lore till, sonic heroes decided to forget all of that, and forces destroyed any sense of canon with the alternate dimension crap with classic sonic.
I think in Sonic Battle, Amy truly deserves the nickname of the pink monster.
As someone who strongly (and respectfully) disagrees with your take on Amy Rose in SB, nobody can ever say the same compliments about her in Sonic Free Riders.
I really do love how sonic pocket adventure. Bright, colourful, and smooth animations. I would love to see a fan game in the same style
21:03 *the best "NO!" i've heard in my life
Indonesian
@@ADeeSHUPA
Martian
Absolutely killed me the first time I watched this 😂
@@LucasHopkins2006Literally sounded like one of Tom’s reactions from Tom & Jerry.
i actually cried at the end of sonic battle
I have played all 3 Sonic Advance titles with Advance 2 being my personal favorite but screw the methods it takes to get the Chaos Emeralds in each game not worth it
@@buffkangaroodog EXACTLY
The emeralds are a bitch to get in most games
@@Klonoahedgehog not to this point. In classics you are fine with a giant ring or 50 rings somewhere. In advance, you need to suffer to get even 1 emerald
@@GrayFoxHound9 Sonic 1 & CD required you to finish the level with at least 50 rings for 1 chance at an unfair Special Stage. Sonic 2 & 3K were the Classic games in which it was easiest to collect all the Emeralds. Advance you have to find 7 hidden springs, each of which gives you 1 chance at a difficult special stage. Advance 2 & Advance 3 are much more convoluted to access the special stages. Rush games had good special stages that were much easier to access.
Colors Wii was trash that made you hunt down every dang Red Ring in the game just to collect the Chaos Emeralds which was such a pain to unlock Super Sonic. Let's just say it was a bad game that critics praised to reduce the series to a parody of itself, which it has been for the past 10 years. We can only hope Project 2021 is a return to form for 3D Sonic after all these years like what we got in the Adventure Games.
Sonic Battle is an epic game. It honestly has an awesome story. i love the sprite work and the city designs. I love the characters, especially Shadow in this game. This game is fkin gold. How can you not think it's a 10/10 for a GBA game???
Finally someone understands
Because it's tedious, drags on and the difficulty is BS? Did you even watched the video?
Because actually playing the campeign is boring IMO especially beating a character then getting back up and having to fight them again now with 10 lives.
Honestly the fighting is the worst part about it. You get juggled, the fighting is boring, the emerl thing is cool but painful at the start when he’s really weak, and honestly the only good thing about the game is the amount of content and the story
Nah, he's right and broke it down perfectly. Emerl and his customization, awesome. The game looks beautiful. The story is amazing. But this is still a fighting game, and the fight mechanics are far from perfect. It is fun at first but then it becomes tedious at best and frustrating at worst. By the end of the game I found myself cheesing my way through the fights with cheap spamming strategies, which I do not enjoy. And the reason why I had to do it was because you have no choice, if you want to actually have fun with the fights the enemies will absolutely demolish you with only 3 or 4 hits.
If it had good fighting mechanics and level design, yes, it would be a near perfect game. But it doesn't.
Sonic advance 2 is my favorite one on gba with Sonic advance 3 being my second favorite. Thank you two for being honest about every single advance game; It's really rare that I find a video nowadays that's pretty much all around reviewing the good and flaws about the game instead of just calling and praising it to be the best ever.😌
You unlock the sound effects in the menu if you get all of the Chaos Emeralds.
As one character.
Collecting all Chaos Emeralds and defeating the final boss as all 4 characters unlocks Amy Rose.
@@HarmonyBunny I was talking about Sonic Genesis.
@@megamanmarchek8293 You could've clarified the name of the game to avoid confusion. 😅
Sonic Advance 3 is one of my favorite 2D games ever. Sure, it might be brutal, but as someone who played Sonic Unleashed a ton, I love the challenge it gave me. It isn't too unfair. I also like Advance 1 and 2. Advance, because it's simple and fun, however it isn't really original. Advance 2 was exhilarating! Every characters blasts through the levels were a great feelin', but the levels were only made for that, so it was pretty samey after a while. Advance 3 fixed that and made the levels more platformey and fast at the same time (maybe that's why the physics were like feathers). I can say though that getting the Chaos Emeralds is a huge chore, especially Advance 2. Sonic Battle... I really like the story a whole lot, but the gameplay really, Really overstays its welcome. Rouge and Knuckles Story were painful. But the rest is good for what it is. I hope SEGA can Re-release the Advance trilogy, because I really like the whole package. Make it happen!
I disagree with Amy in Advance 1, I never felt like her momentum affected the gameplay at all as everyone seemed to move as a reasonable speed even if there were obvious difference (Sonic being fastest, Amy being the slowest) and after replaying it multiple times I find Amy to be the most fun I've had with Sonic Advance and Sonic the worst, namely because I found Sonic interacts with things the worst of the 4. Once you learn Amy's playstyle her acrobatics complement the level design (especially if you hammer flip on loops/terrain slopes) and she easily destroys every boss better than any character because of her range. In comparison Sonic has the hardest time dealing with any boss and I feel like if I ever wanted to get that classic feel with the familiar style I'd just use Tails or Knuckles who deal with situations better than Sonic.
Amy is pretty much the to-go option for veterans who wish to challenge their skills, all while experiencing the single most creative twist to the core gameplay that proves you can have playable characters that can be fun without relying in them being clones like Tails and Knuckles. Imo Amy's gameplay is pretty much "lets take her mediocre gameplay from SA1 and make it better, and put it in 2D) outside of using Tails or Knuckles to get Chaos emeralds, Amy is my main go to if I ever just want to play Sonic Advance for whatever reason.
For my opinions of the Advance series I consider 1 the best because it adds a balance of platforming and momentum based gameplay. Unpopular opinion I REALLY don't like Sonic Advance 2 and consider it one of my least favorite Sonic games. Its an example I would call "Style over Substance" in fact the video titled "Spectacle over Substance" is a perfect description because I feel the overfocus on speed is also the game's biggest issue, to the point where it doesn't feel like you're meant to platform in certain levels that require you to be careful, the SP rings act contradictory to the design and any of the character's abilities don't get used because the design of the level/game doesn't allow for any of their unique abilities to come into play so you're basically controlling 5 Sonic's only Cream has long range. Speaking of which the running bosses suck, as I hate the feeling of flying back after hitting them and each boss is designed with some ranged attacks in mind and with the exception of like 1 or 2 of them it feels like it specifically favors Cream because she has her own range to counter them, which isn't how you should design your bosses. I'm also not a fan of the level design in the second half. That's also not mentioning your reward for needing to get Chaos Emeralds as all 4 characters are things that her unlocked from the start of Advance 1. Which just makes the tedium worse.
With Advance 3 it would be my favorite if it were for its most glaring issue. The hit detection is at its all time worst! As much as this era is my favorite era (as well as the best era) the constant issue that continued to persist each of them was the consistently bad hit/collision detection, and I feel Advance 3 is one of the worst, if not the worst. If so much as a pixel of your characters shoe touches near the edge of a block it counts as you getting squashed by it, it also feels like getting hit can be cheap at times, especially when trying to hit bosses. However it does have the best presentation, story and music of the Advance games, seriously Advance 3 has an underrated OST, especially by GBA standards.
So I would rank my preferences
Advance
Advance 3
Advance 2
I don't think listing Sonic Advance 2 as the weakest of the Sonic Advance Trilogy is as unpopular an opinion as you think it is.
i was gonna comment the same thing about amy
i had fun playing as her, even tho i tortured myself by playing on my phone
(also i played with amy on my first playthru, figuted i played enough with sonic so i jumped into advance 1 not knowing amy is meant to be a challenge lol)
...You we’re playing Sonic Advance 3 on an emulator, weren’t you?
These are all of my exact thoughts.
@@lootria The strange thing is despite being the "challenge" mode of Advance, Amy is actually the most capable in the game. She's the most well equipped at handling every boss to the point of even delivering multiple hits consecutively, and it feels like the level design was more suited to her playstyle that the other three. In fact I find it harder to play as anyone but Amy, especially Sonic who is literally the worst in every category and has no a single advantage in any way aside from being fast. To me Sonic Advance feels like Amy's game, because her playstyle feels the most adaptable.
Not to mention despite it being her Adventure gameplay it fixed all the problems that playstyle had in Adventure 1.
If I had to rank the characters I'd go
Amy
Knuckles
Tails
Sonic
The only thing I would change in this is when you say, "The poor man's Sonic". I was born in the 80's and we just wanted a Sonic on the go.
Plus it's classist. I know it's not that deep, but it still bugs me.
13:42 This game also wrote Shadow well? What a breath of fresh air compared to his personality nowadays!
Facts I think shadows personality would have been the same as Sonic adventure 2 if it wasn't for "Sonic's characters are stupid argument"
@@supersonic8561 what kind of dumbass argument is that?
@@donathan2933 I don't know people just make up stuff the arguments started in 2004 but picked up in 2007 it was made by IGN you can even hear the stupid friend it's argument in Sonic generations where I quote "Sonic and stupid friends are important and thankfully"
@@supersonic8561 wow
I grew up with the Advance games. Perfect mix of the classic 2D games and the Adventure styles.
13:46
i want one of these sonic writers to see this 10 second interval that follows.
The moment they see this, Sega will already replace them lol
Thank you for giving the Sonic Advance Trilogy a second look. The Sonic Trilogy is a huge part of my childhood, and I couldn't have asked for a better era introduction to the franchise.
This era fully embraced both Modern and Classic gameplay. The Advance games get better as the entries go down, and Battle is a blast to play . The era is SERIOUSLY underrated, aesthetically, gameplay-wise and story-wise.
Sonic advance 3 was my favourite GBA game at one point. The Chao and general difficulty did ask too much though. But I still did it!! 😅
"Don't they know I'm busy spoiling myself". 😂
As a kid my aunt took me to Walmart to buy me a game. Originally I didn't know what to get so I got Sonic The Hedgehog for the gameboy, I knew nothing about it other than it being the original Sonic. After I bought it I kept looking at the box and I asked if I can return the game and choose out a different one and we did and I ended up getting Sonic Colors instead. I saved myself there
You sure did
"Sonic Genesis is one of the worst Sonic games ever fucking made."
That genuinely made me laugh.
The dry delivery 😂
Been loving the flow of videos in this Sonic (is, was) distinctive series. Keep up the great work.
Shouts outs to Amy's imagination being powerful enough that she can just bring into existence an imaginary Sonic to fight alongside her in Sonic Battles.
Her magic can do wonders most of the time, her hammer being an example.
Sonic Advance 2 has the best tone, charm, and art direction the series has had in 2D since the 2000's started
20:57 and 21:03 Justin M. : NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Advance 3 is one of the most nostalgic games to me. I love the partner mechanic with how much replay value it gives me, and I don’t mind the hubworlds since it allows me to choose each act in any order I want.
Fun fact about Sonic Genesis. The demo that plays if you wait on the title screen uses the originals inputs and input times. Because of this, Sonic will always either die or get stuck in the moving block section of Spring Yard’s demo due to the lag.
Sonic Advance series was my introduction to the franchise.
Sonic Battle was amazing! Although as a kid, I didn’t realize you can change emerald’s moves till I was deep into the game. I just thought I sucked at the game by how bad I was loosing. But once I learned how to change his moves! On buddy did I love the game and mechanics.
Sonic advance 2 is a good example of how modern sonic 2d level desing should be like
No way, I personally think that Sonic Advance 1had better level design than Advance 2.
It's amazing that Battle adds quite a lot of Lore with Gerald's journal
It turns out that Emerl was the one who started the whole "Artificial Chaos rampage"
So like, did emerl wire them to the incorrect poles? Because that is the canonical explanation for why they went rogue.
@@lpfan4491 info.sonicretro.org/Prof._Gerald%27s_Journal_(Sonic_Battle)
Well it's not directly said like that, i mean Battle was made before Shadow's game which was the one that stablished the Artificial Chaos rampage, so i don't think the devs were planning that far ahead
In Battle it's mentioned that Emerl caused the accident as unclear as SA2, but like Emerl looks exactly like Chaos, future games can expand upon that (and Gerald's expeditions on Angel Island)
@@hugoflores1093 The jounral entry says that Emerl went on a rampage and destroyed much of the ARK, but doesn't really reference the Artificial Chaos. It could be the same incident but if you look at the events as portrayed in Shadow the Hedgehog it's likely the AC incident happend at a later date, after Emerl had already been handed over to the government. In fact that might even explain why GUN soldiers were stationed on the ARK to begin with - preperation in case of another incident like that.
"but like Emerl looks exactly like Chaos, future games can expand upon that" - Dunno if you've ever played Chronicles but that game basically shows that the Gizoids were created by a rival Echidna clan, the Nocturnus. Emerl was essentially the prototype Gizoid designed to harness the Chaos Emeralds. The other ones are weaker but still pretty strong.
@@Someguyhere111
Well, that explains a lot
But due to Ken Penders we can't use anything related to Dark Brotherhood, so.. hopes for a reboot
Yeah and Emerl being a unique Gizoid that would be able to absorb the Chaos Emeralds for pure dominance during the whole Knuckles Clan war, and Gerald reprogramming him to be a useless war bot, until Eggman scooped him up a couple of years, having the same issue the government had. Some crazy stuff lol
Sonic Advance was my first GBA game ever, and it was the last game my dad gave me before he went to prison for 6 years. I have a lot of nostalgia for the game.
It just scares me that sonic genesis was my first sonic games
I'm surprised it wasn't your last as well. Lol
Sonic Advance were the first Sonic games I ever played. I got the games as they came out and I remember like them more as the next one came out. Sonic Advance 3 is easily one of the best 2D Sonic games out there. It's just loads of fun and has so much in it. I could play it over and over and not get sick of it.
Sonic Battle is the first Sonic game I played and finished, and that was quite the first impression I got for stories in Sonic.
Your point on Advance 3 being the culmination of the Adventure era makes Johnny hating it make more sense: it's the culmination of the very thing he hates the most in the Sonic franchise.
Johnny hates the adventure era?
@@123stinko I was exaggerating slightly, but he doesn't particularly enjoy it.
@@unchallengedmediocrity7886 he really liked adventure 1 it was just adventure 2 that he wasn’t on board with.
@@skibot9974 ya saying he hates the adventure era is just wrong and incorrect.
@@skibot9974 I was just exaggerating, since he HAS stated that he doesn't prefer the Adventure era, but he definitely hates Advance 3.
Sonic battle is underrated.
It's basically sonic another advance game
But the story is probably the best I've seen in any sonic game since then.
Yes but also because it does something really cool in that it ties in to both the adventure games and advance 3 3
Though I think the game is really solid and fun I still think that advance 3 is by far the most solid sonic game.
It has a passable story that doesn't take itself too seriously and has quite enjoyable gameplay with the partners mechanic.
Advance 1 is ok
And sonic advance 2 is great until sky canyon.
Sky canyon is probably the worst stage in any gba sonic game.
Sonic battle was also the last fighting game in the series, I'm glad Ian Flynn remembered the advance games in the IDW comics.
I did play Sonic Advance 3 once. And so far, it's actually pretty fun.
The first impressions were not so great but later on, I started to really like it.
Almost the same deal with Sonic Heroes since the first impressions of these games were not so good.
Didn't finish the game though since some of the special stages in order to unlock the true final boss still remain to be checked.
But I hope I can have some free time to do that.
@@Tenna5468 *I've played *haven't finished Advance 3 yet. Fix your grammar!!
@@mep6302 I already fixed it... Sorta. Thanks for your "mean or rude" feedback!
And YES! English is not my first language, but THAT does not mean you have the right to attack or offend someone because of that specific weakness. You are no better than that though (Same for myself who pretty much wanted to spread his own opinions).
Maybe I got the tone wrong since it sounded so mean spirited to me but I'm not sure.
Screw it. I consider Sonic Adventure 1 as a TRUE Sonic 4.
I mean, the story continues from 3 directly. CHANGE MY MIND.
19:33
Me: besides some screen crunch I don't see how it can be one of the wor-
Sonic: * starts running on air *
Me:... I see
I really enjoyed Sonic Advanced 1 and 3, but 2 had some annoying level design. Sonic Battle was great!
2 had the best level design and was a breeze to blast through at break neck speed. 3 is beyond awful with its pits and traps and never letting you build up momentum. It is almost like Advance 3 punishes you for trying to go fast
these games will probably always bring nostalgia from Flash Times, because these are times i most commonly associate with Sprite Animations and some Sonic Flash Game used these sprites and custom made for that art-style sometimes... and i'm feeling old for some reason...
It’s weird how these games divide opinions, especially Advance 3 and Battle. At least we can all agree Genesis sucks
I never really knew there were GBA Sonic games that were part of the Adventure era
@friggy the DC era? Don't you mean the Dreamcast/Adventure era?
@friggy true. My favorite are the Dreamcast and Dark/4kids era
@friggy yup. 2000s Sonic is the best. 2010 Sonic sucks
Sonic advance 2 was my first sonic game too! I got it as a communion gift of all things. Talk about the sonic and Christianity meme. Still I'm glad I got it as my first experience with Sonic. Nostalgia really makes me think fondly of the second Advance game.
Oh my gosh, NEITHER of them figured out Amy. They didn't find her move that gets her to max speed instantly nor her double-spring ability?
I think it's because She's the hardest difficulty. And they probably didn't play as her that much.
Sonic Advance 2 is the first GBA Sonic game and currently the only GBA Sonic game I completed. Thanks, Cream.
Sonic Genesis is like one of those bootlet companies making an unliscensed GBA port of Sonic 1 that SEGA published for some reason
8:16 I think Character-in-Depth is lowkey calling SA1 the real Sonic 4. lol
I mean he's not wrong. It WAS the next big Sonic game Sonic Team made after 3&K but I think the statement alone would trigger a lot of retro fans.
Man I love characters In depth so glad he's in this video
U are quick and complete with ur promises! Glad to be subbed and great work!
I have yet to play any of the Advance games at all, most of my Dimps experience comes to the Rush trilogy.
If I ever get to play the Advance games, there's only a few things I fear:
- Chaos Emeralds
- Late game level design (which is also an issue I had with Sonic Rush).
- Advance 3. Some people dislike it for its level design and hub worlds among other things, but then there's people like you who enjoy it a lot. So I guess I'll just have to try it and see.
13:09
*DO NOT* fucking apologise for this
you're absolutely right, there is no excuse for the bastardisation of shadow that came after 2010.
you had a great point, and we all agree with you.
Oh no, I definitely think current Shadow is a disgrace. But the thing I mentioned was how I called Shadow an edgelord in Sonic 06, which I don't think is true at all.
@@JsReviews
that's true _but_ shadow in his game actually _is_ an edge lord due to the horrible english localization, whereas in the japanese version he's closer to his sa2 and heroes personality, i hope you mention this in your review.
Oh wow. I was just re-listening to Sonic Advance 3's soundtrack. I know the game has issues but I enjoyed it as a kid and the soundtrack is so slept on. It's too good.
I watched the cutscenes of battle and I really like how shadow is written in it.
Next time focus on the DS sonic games including the rush series and even the DS version of sonic colors which is really good
I did play Rush and Colors on DS. pretty fun and addicting games but not perfect by any means.
@@Tenna5468 I don’t think they were suppose to be perfect...just some great games on the go
@@VincentVincent_89 no game is perfect, I don't get the point of using that word
@@buffkangaroodog agreed
@@Tenna5468 Of course they're not perfect. No game in the world is and will be
Shadow in 06 was good.
Can’t wait for Sonic Riders
Sonic battle was my childhood! A shame I never got the advance series games... guess I forgot to ask my mom to buy em
Sonic battle is amazing. Also the weird fact that omega is mentioned even if the game was released 26 days before heroes and it also takes place after shadow the hedgehog
Battle takes place after Adventure 2. What are you talking about?
@@DanielFahimi and sonic heroes takes place after adventure 2 as well. Maybe you confused omega for gamma
@@backslash_bks Heroes and Battle are in two different timelines
@@DanielFahimi Nah, Rouge confuses Chaos Gamma for Omega at some point in her story. If you still don't believe me then play the game
@@backslash_bks Yeah, but how is that evidence? Battle is contradictory to Heroes in every way.
We simply can assume that Rouge met Omega somewhere in timeline after Adventure 2.
Best 2d sonic game. You know it's mania
Sonic Advance 3 is actually my favorite Sonic Game
i think sonic advance 2 is the pure representation of sonic games that benefit from being replayed.
it's better and pretty fun to speed run it, but anything disregarding that won't be the most enjoyable experience.
great vid!
21:03 That moment when you accidentally overwrite your save file.
I will always love sonic advance 2 and 3
Ever since I got into Sonic in 2020 with my younger brother , I got into emulation of Nintendo DS , GBA and PSP games , and to be honest , I kind of enjoyed playing Sonic Advance 2 and 3 as well as Battle . They are just so fun for me to play.
Sonic battle and sonic advance 2 are my favorites I stil download an emulator every once in a while,I remember grindingvalot to get a powerful emerl
That scream around the 21 minute mark shattered my ear drum at work...people started at me
Just letting it be known now: I LOVE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG AND I’M PROUD
I don't mind Shadow the Hedgehog. It's not in my Top 5 Sonic games, but it provides a surprisingly good method for relieving stress.
That’s cool, it’s like my 2nd favorite after Sonic Unleashed
Still haven't played any of these, one day I might just go through a marathon of them
Most of them are pretty good. Try them and you'll see
@@mep6302 do you know a safe site where I can download those games? Since emuparadise is dead
The "NOOO!" that J lets out at 21:04 cracks me up 😆
There needs to be a video about ALL of sonics alternate routes in games. We all take different ones.
In exo voice: "but j? 😆😂 you forgot to mention the donkey Kong country trilogy on the gba as well since they were ported from the snes" though on the serious side, this was very useful j, 🙂 I was curious to hear about sonic advance 2 and 3, again from everyone it seems like peoole prefer 2 over 3 and vice versa, since I did see loose cartridges of advance 2 and 3, I only ever played the first advance game in which i still like, 🙂 on a personal note, beautifully done j *and also to the special guests you have as well* also I loved the screams in the sonic genesis stream that night "nooooooo!!!!"
Unlocking characters is part of the fun. It must be kept.
Also, out of the 3 Advance games. 2 easily has the best music
Advance 3 has the best ost and it's not even close
In my opinion at least lol
First Sonic game/game ever I played was Sonic genesis, Lmao. I grew up playing it for years and thought it was ok, but I've known it sucked for awhile. I could never get past the boss of labyrinth zone as a kid, which I saw what happened on the vid. But yeah great video, loved playing all of the advanced games, did like Genesis as a kid, And pinball party isn't bad, I just suck at pinball.
The advance games were my first games
I actually beat Sonic 1 Genesis for the first time today after owning it for nearly six years, and I really felt the pain at 20:59 because that happened to me as well. Also, there's a secret shortcut in Labyrinth Act 1 that's kind of difficult to get to, but lets you skip most of the stage, which in that Zone is an absolute godsend, but as I learned the hard way, they didn't include it in S1 Genesis. Easily the worst port I have ever played in my life.
The Sonic advanced series sounds good but not great but I hope it makes it as a collection on future Sega collections. I love classic Sonic games but I missed out on some games. Cool video. ^_^
20:23
I love that it just randomly shows Vaush in the suggested videos on the side, lol.
For growing in the gba, I am proud of being able to grow up with advance 1, quite a nifty lil games on a nifty lil plataform with those 5ish somewhatish great games
Would love to see your take on Sonic Rush. I absolutely love the game and the music is mind blowing!
Advance 2 goated
Anyone here after the livestream?
Man, I know, it's a bad game, but I just love Sonic Battle. I replay it every other year. It's just so cool to have a Sonic fighting game with such a great story. Emerl is one of my favorite Sonic characters.
I like the story in Sonic Fighters, but I think the gameplay can be enjoyable if one has the patience for the repetitive fights. And as someone who grew up with Sonic Advance 3, let's just say it's satisfying that trumped the others.
I adored Sonic Advance 2! It was also the 1st(& only) gba game i ever had. It was also the 1st sonic game i owned! Loved the speed boosting and levels plus the soundtrack!
“Maria comes back out of nowhere and bully some chao and leaves”
Shadow:………………………MARIAAAAA???????!!!!!!!
Great video its good know character in depth is aware of Japanese manuals and I hope both you cover Japanese versions of sonic games because they featured better writing and so on all the games are translated and subtitled by windii on her channel so please give her some love.
I love portable versions of Sonic advance trilogy and Sonic Rush series, Sonic Pinball Party and Sonic Battle
characters in depth i really like your videos
Great video, but I'm surprised you two didn't talk about the Chao Garden in Sonic Advance, it was simple but a fun way to pass time.