Repairing a Pre-War Lionel 1688E Torpedo

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @bearowen5480
    @bearowen5480 Год назад +6

    Wonderful video, Ron! Thanks for the deep and comprehensive dive into a Lionel pre-war classic. No wonder it was a great seller for the boys in Hillside!

  • @izzynutz2000
    @izzynutz2000 Месяц назад

    In my youth I acquired one of these that somebody had painted gold but I was enthralled with it so much so that now in my adult years I have six of them this is one of my favorite Lionel engines

  • @gunslinger434
    @gunslinger434 11 месяцев назад +2

    What a beautiful set! Especially after you worked your magic on it!

  • @johnandrus3901
    @johnandrus3901 Год назад +4

    Nice and informative video. I've never liked working on Lionel steam locomotives. They are just a pain in the rear. The one thing, though, make sure that nobody uses a polishing compound-style wax. It will harm the surface, as it has a fine substance made to clean stuff out of automobile paint surfaces before waxing. Regular carnouba wax is just fine. I use Simonize on my AMT passenger cars. They are aluminum and they just shine like a mirror when I'm done with them. Either way, an excellent video.

  • @johnsterling7420
    @johnsterling7420 Год назад +3

    Awesome video, great resto Ron, looks like new.👌👍😇

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing. FAN-tastic video with much-appreciated history.👍

  • @henryszubielski8601
    @henryszubielski8601 Год назад +3

    What a beautiful little set Ron.
    You did and excellent job!

  • @franktino6676
    @franktino6676 Год назад +3

    Absolutely fantastic, Ron ,as to how you resurrected this '36 Lionel back to life and gleaming too ! I thoroughly enjoyed your video❗I don't know much about pre-war Lionel except for what I might see at a train show or up on Ebay, so your background historical information was very interesting 😂🚂❗

  • @roughneckwolf
    @roughneckwolf Год назад +1

    Thanks Ron.
    If you notice, between this open frame motor, the Pul-Mor and the MPC motor, that brush holder and motor design hadn't changed in over 70 years. And then Lionel LLC did the can motor thing.
    Great vid.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      I like when engineers don't mess with something that just works :-) Can motors are better suited for them fancy sound loco's with computer chips driving them around. Thanks for watching!

  • @silvertrain7945
    @silvertrain7945 Год назад +1

    One of the 33%! That set cleaned up so nice! Great work!

  • @johnbarone3426
    @johnbarone3426 Год назад

    I'm a 33 percenter great video nice to see prewar revived like that awesome Ron

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thanks for your support John. It was pretty cool working on such a old one.

  • @paulatherton985
    @paulatherton985 Год назад +2

    Beautiful train. Can’t believe it was in such good condition for being that old.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +2

      Thanks Paul. I'm thinking it was stored in its boxes for years and years

  • @NormanAllen-ps9ju
    @NormanAllen-ps9ju 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ron, you have done another fascinating job !

  • @lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561
    @lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561 Год назад +1

    WOW, you are awesome! To do what you do, it's amassing. And of course, your Billboard was on the modular layout at the Desert Empire Fair last weekend. ;)

  • @stevenhaneklaus8087
    @stevenhaneklaus8087 Год назад +4

    The beginning of the video is awesome

  • @whip-its_dad4239
    @whip-its_dad4239 Год назад +1

    Nice old art deco design !Thank you , that was interesting to see how early toy trains were made .

  • @theplumber33
    @theplumber33 Год назад +2

    What a spectacular find!!! Shining beautifully!!! I did not know you could do that with those rivets. I figured once you pulled on the part, that was it. Outstanding, brother!!! 33% go hard!!😂

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Thank you! This was an amazing antique store find but I of course paid to much for it. I dont think that pin can be swedged to many more times. An old Swedish trick I learned from this Mediterranean Feller. Thanks for the channel support!!!

  • @davidcaudill7025
    @davidcaudill7025 Год назад +1

    Love the video! I have a prewar motor that looks identical to the one you just serviced here , i got it all back together and it wouldnt run. I could not figure out what the problem was untill i watched this video! I switched the brush plate screws and wala!!! I have a running motor again!!! I guess sometimes the most obvious and most simple issue will get you every time....lol thanks for all the videos very educational!!!

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Glad this video helped you get another Pre-War back off the shelf and on the rails David!!

  • @marklinzeit
    @marklinzeit Год назад

    Very creative and cool music video intro. Thank you maestro.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      A few people have mentioned that. Guess I should do a few more like that. Artsy-Fartsy creative stuff :-)

  • @tomshannon7513
    @tomshannon7513 Год назад +1

    Great job Ron, that's a beautiful set.

  • @erickarsgor6808
    @erickarsgor6808 Год назад

    GREAT VIDEO, I enjoyed it very much. I bought a 1668 (2-6-2) on e-bay several years ago for $25. The add said it did not run. Found a electrical short in the e-unit. So I removed the e- unit and re-wired it to run forward only. Cleaned it up, put new brushes in it and it is one of my best runners. I rely like the pre-war trains.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thank you Erick. Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that 2-6-2. Any thoughts about putting a e-unit back in it?

    • @erickarsgor6808
      @erickarsgor6808 Год назад +1

      Eventually, yes. @@classicmodeltrains

  • @Admiral_Nimtz
    @Admiral_Nimtz Год назад

    Had that set in the early 1960"s. Nice to see it again, brings back memorys of childhood.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Lots of good memories come from the models and toys we play with as "adults" huh? :-)

  • @ecidaho
    @ecidaho Год назад +1

    Great video Ron. Really interesting to see how older O models work! Thanks and take care!

  • @TomzTrainzandAccessories
    @TomzTrainzandAccessories Год назад +1

    That was an outstanding video Ron. You did a fantastic job on it. The locomotive looks and runs great again. The Torpedo was always one of my favorites. I have the twin brother to yours which is a #1689E. The 1688E and 1689E were the O27 locomotives. The “O” Gauge big brothers were the 238E and the #1668E. I have both the 1689E and the #238E. They were my fathers that were handed down to me, and I in turn will hand them down to my sons. Excellent video Ron! Tom

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thank you Tom! Are the "O" gauge ones a bit bigger? Like noticeably? Pretty cool there being handed down thru your family like that. Great story!!!!

    • @TomzTrainzandAccessories
      @TomzTrainzandAccessories Год назад

      @@classicmodeltrains Yes, the #238E and #1688E are definitely bigger. They’re wider and a little longer. My Prewar #238E was made as a 4-4-2, and my #1689E is a 2-4-2, HOWEVER, in 1996, Lionel reprodced the #238E, and the #1668E using the original tooling for the shell of the prewar #238, but corrected it to be a proper K4 as a 4-6-2, and it was made with very early TMCC, but this time it had a hooter whistle for sound, and a smoke unit!! I did a video on the prewar #238E and the 1996 reproduction #238E along with a little history lesson on this locomotive. It’s on my channel if you’re interested to watch it. Let me know what you think if you do. Thanks, Tom

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      @@TomzTrainzandAccessories digging thru your channel right now. A lot of nice Lionel you have yourself there Sir!!

  • @JacquesLevyJr
    @JacquesLevyJr 3 месяца назад

    Beautiful !!!

  • @rogerlee3941
    @rogerlee3941 Год назад +1

    Hi Ron, Great video! I've got one of these that I've had for many years. I could certainly sympathize with you on the e-unit repair (they can really be a pain sometimes!).

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Hello Roger. Thanks for your kind words. Is your Torpedo still pounding the rails? Yeah I would pay good money for the jig to assemble those dang E-units for sure!!

    • @rogerlee3941
      @rogerlee3941 Год назад

      Yes, it still runs! I'm a Lionel collector, and I've got others that I run, so the Torpedo sits on the shelf most of the time, but you know how bullet-proof these old Lionels are. A drop of oil here and there and send it down the line!@@classicmodeltrains

  • @johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards
    @johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards Год назад

    Awesome Jr. set, the cars look nice too. Those tabs on whistling tenders are just as much fun, realizing that the commutator will need oiling every so often.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thanks John👍 Yup, metal tabs only have so many bends you can do to them

  • @RichardMcCroft
    @RichardMcCroft 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Ron, I ordered a set of 3 of those fiberglass pens you use all of the time. It just came in from amazon and I tried it out on some electronics I am working on, and it works like an absolute champ! Very, very happy with that. I have no idea why more people are not using that. I gave one to my daughter for use on her jewlery. Thanks again.

  • @rickdee67
    @rickdee67 Год назад +2

    Theme from Shawshank in the beginning? Very groovy Ron!

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      It's from Epidemic sound. A service for music. Now I'm going to have to watch Shawshank (again!!) and see if its the same. I liked the "feeling" of that clip of music. Edited the footage to match :-)

  • @Tonyfishtail
    @Tonyfishtail Год назад

    I love the way you go about all of it! Very informative and very entertaining and fun to watch! Great Job my friend!!😊

  • @azslotracer
    @azslotracer Год назад

    Another great job bringing an old toy back to life! Part of the hesitation when you were testing the engine on your dirty track lol, could have been from some of the wear on the slide type power pickups.

  • @ronalddevine9587
    @ronalddevine9587 Год назад

    That set is in remarkable condition. I agree with you on the e-unit. They are a pain in the back side. Many four letter words get muttered reassembling them!

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      It was shocking how nice it was. probably broke many years ago and was just sitting in the boxes in a closet

  • @BriansModelTrains
    @BriansModelTrains Год назад

    A joy to watch - thank you!

  • @darrenrawlinson6344
    @darrenrawlinson6344 Год назад

    You needed the patience of a saint, resurrecting that E unit! Raymond Loewy had great vision for an eye catching locomotive. It makes for a wonderful model.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Takes some time to re-assemble for sure. Beautiful design. To bad it didnt last very long.

  • @SantaFeBob
    @SantaFeBob Год назад

    Another fun video. I think my Dad has this one. Definitely going to follow your instructions for the turn up.

  • @keepamericayisraelgreat5708
    @keepamericayisraelgreat5708 Год назад

    SO COOL>>>>>

  • @garykellerup3470
    @garykellerup3470 Год назад

    Thanks Ron. Great video! Took me a few days to catch up. 33%er here.

  • @shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494

    fantastic save on a beautiful old item

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Thank you Shakey!! Have not seen you comment in awhile. Hope you are doing well Sir!

    • @shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494
      @shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494 Год назад +1

      doing good cheers buddy , just a busy time at work through being under staffed then when i get time off i'm plum tuckered out
      @@classicmodeltrains

  • @donaldweiss2031
    @donaldweiss2031 Год назад +1

    Great video Ron. I'm a 33% . Best way to spend 30 minutes

  • @MozanaRN
    @MozanaRN Год назад +1

    Thank you Ron for another excellent video. I will stick with HO locomotives after watching your work on what to me is a system I do not completely understand yet find facinnating. I just wonder who thought this stuff up when watching your exploration of the mechanism. Truly amazing. :-)

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Them engineers with their slide rules sure came up with some great stuff to go along with that newly invented electricity thing that's for sure :-)

  • @rickestabrook4987
    @rickestabrook4987 Год назад

    Great video, Ron,

  • @gacj2010
    @gacj2010 Год назад

    This is historic....fantastic...oh man do I love this

  • @charlesdempsey176
    @charlesdempsey176 Год назад

    Quality work and a quality video. I was watching on my big tv. Looked fuzzy to me. Then I realized I wasn’t wearing my eyeglasses! Ha!

  • @Zebrails
    @Zebrails Год назад

    33%'er just turned 55 the 25th October... Ron, dazzling locomotive... your personality shines as well as the locomotive. But, your humor is the cat's meow! ("dog's bark" doesn't work.) Awesome job, videoing and such, history and great commentary... as always. Keep up the good work [and play]! Your videos keep me motivated {yours and a few others}. Good luck on your auction, I believe you'll get a pretty penny for that set \and for some reason I'ma hankering for a BabyRuth/ but they don't sell them up in Canada. ("Oh Henry" is a similar chocolate/candy bar.) .....distracted, train off in the distance. John

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Welcome John. Were the same age. The old body feels it, but my mind still wants it's youth back. But the Adult sized checkbook is a better way to be ;-) Thanks once again for your kind words!!

  • @johnmalley4355
    @johnmalley4355 Год назад

    Very shiny, way cool. Good show Ron

  • @regisbraga3833
    @regisbraga3833 Год назад

    Nice - and a little bit complex - work Ron! The polishing make them look much better.

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh Год назад

    awsome looking vintage steamer!

  • @stevenhaneklaus8087
    @stevenhaneklaus8087 Год назад

    You are welcome and I bought my first z scale train set this weekend

  • @XCELERATIONRULES
    @XCELERATIONRULES 3 месяца назад

    I watched the video twice,the second time,I turned the sound down,and just watched you talk,with your hands! Lmfao.
    Great video!

  • @caboosech
    @caboosech Год назад

    great video

  • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
    @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS Год назад

    Love these later O gauge tinplate engines. Interesting the design difference between the chassis on this compared to the 259E, a lot more cast parts, and different center rail pickups. A lot of design evolution between them!
    Not sure why, but my 259E can traverse an MTH O-31 switch. I think it's because the side with the gear teeth is going over the side without the frog, but it's one of life's mysteries.
    Just noticed "Lord of the Isles" hiding back there on the shelf - I've added some details, crew figures, and paint to one of those, they're simple but clean up nice.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      This one was a bit different than other Lionels Ive worked on. The journey of exploration in taking them apart to see how they tick is always enjoyable for me. A few people have mentioned that "Lord" loco up there lurking in the dark. Very distinct profile it has. MTH 0-31's? Sounds like heaven to me to own!!!!

  • @joshuamuir7577
    @joshuamuir7577 Месяц назад

    Very nice video! Makes me want to start restoring my trains now. Quick question; A while back I've acquired some Lionel post war O-scale from a friend of mine, however the box i got them in had signs of it being in a flood and some of the rolling stock was custom painted and had custom decals on them. How do I remove the paint from the rolling stock, without messing with the original under color and print underneath? I've also tried restoring a Lionel #66 Semaphore (made between 1915-1926) that my great grand father owned when he was a child. The main issue was that the main mechanism to move the arms was embedded in the ladder and was in bad shape, however the thing worked perfectly electronically. In the end I've just ended up super gluing the ladder in place and accidently breaking a few tabs off. I wish there was a place I can take it to to fix it, however the closest place that fixed them closed a few years back and the closet place that does fix them is over an hour away. I would give it to someone online to fix, however I don't want to pay a lot of money to have them fix it. I'm still relatively new to restoring items.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Месяц назад +1

      Its pretty tough to remove one layer without disturbing the original layer. I use a ultrasonic cleaner and simple green to remove paint. Could strip it down to clean metal and then start again. Practice on a couple of junkers till you get good at it.

    • @joshuamuir7577
      @joshuamuir7577 Месяц назад

      @@classicmodeltrains Thanks for the tip!

  • @CannonCountry
    @CannonCountry 11 месяцев назад

    You have brought up on more than one occasion not having a wheel press… which one do you want? Have you researched which one you would choose?

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  11 месяцев назад

      I'm sorta waiting until I get a larger area to model / repair in. I want to get a small arbor press for installing. I guess I would ask around what pullers other Fellers use when working on this bit bigger stuff

  • @avsavannahvalleyrailroad9479
    @avsavannahvalleyrailroad9479 Год назад

    Good evening

  • @thomasmoroney4993
    @thomasmoroney4993 Год назад +1

    Live!…how did I miss this?….lol…well I am here now!…let’s get to fixing!..lol

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      I came up with an "instant" premier. Perhaps I should do a delayed premier next time so people will have awhile to be notified it's coming on.

    • @thomasmoroney4993
      @thomasmoroney4993 Год назад

      @@classicmodeltrains because we don’t want to miss you turning shelf art into working art!

  • @mjamesb66
    @mjamesb66 Год назад

    Great video and history on this Loco. And rare as chicken lips. Lol. 33%er

  • @stephencossman6966
    @stephencossman6966 Год назад

    I love your vid's and dialogue... you do great work but not much 😜
    illin in south philly 😎

  • @jimweikak457
    @jimweikak457 Год назад

    { C L R } Work Great , Especially on any rust copper metal an brass !!!!!, Including Track, And rust on Track !!, A little go's Along Way!! , MARRY CHRISTMAS !!, HAPPY NEW YEAR !!! PEACE AND LOVE !! ☺️🐕‍🦺

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thanks for the tip Jim! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours as well

  • @matchboxcustomsandrestos
    @matchboxcustomsandrestos Год назад

    I have never owned or worked on any pre war Lionel. The one that has always eluded me was the Blue Comet. The original pre war 1936-37. You asked a video or two back for merch ideas. How bout a 33% club t shirt? I would be in for that.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      OOOhhhhh..... A "BLUE COMET"!!! That would be an awesome find for sure. I think a 33% Tee would be a great idea!!

  • @mikeure1528
    @mikeure1528 Год назад

    i'm a bit new at this but is there a way to bypass a bad e-unit?

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Yes there is but you have to be kinda knowledgeable with electricity flow and provide power to the stator electro-magnet and brushes.

  • @sreed3819
    @sreed3819 Год назад

    I have a 1947 or 48 Lionel train set (incomplete and not greatest shape). Does it have any value and who would buy?

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      It might be worth something to somebody. Give me the road numbers on the cars I can look them up.

  • @josephbrandtner7713
    @josephbrandtner7713 17 дней назад

    Where ae the connecting rods?

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  14 дней назад

      it has everything on it that it came from the factory with

  • @RobertDaSilva-ss8zx
    @RobertDaSilva-ss8zx 3 месяца назад

    Dang A year too late for that auction. How much did she sell for? I be hooping like 4-500$

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  3 месяца назад

      I cant remember exactly but it was a lot higher that I though it would be. I think your pretty close

  • @nickben1447
    @nickben1447 Месяц назад

    👍👍👍

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Месяц назад

      I see you've been busy bing watching! Thank you for interacting with them all Nick :-)

  • @dougs_trains
    @dougs_trains Год назад

    Do you know what Lionel did during the war?

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Made electric servo's for airplanes and some other test equipment for the war effort I hear

  • @kensbackshop6399
    @kensbackshop6399 Год назад

    Another sucsesful surgery by Dr.Ron

  • @evophantom
    @evophantom Год назад

    Is shipping to the UK an option? :)

  • @kentpool7414
    @kentpool7414 Год назад

    84 years old? Do you mean 86? Great video.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Greetings Kent. To be honest I'm not 100% sure if this is a '39 or a '37. I get conflicting information off the google machine. Thanks for your kind words!

  • @brentpodoll5848
    @brentpodoll5848 Год назад +1

    Chicken 🐔 lips there like hens teeth very hard to find l love it. Always a 33 percenter.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Thanks Brent for your support! I was looking for hen's teeth to say, but chicken lips just fell outa my mouth. Sounded good so I ran with it :-)

  • @richardryan517
    @richardryan517 Год назад

    Great video. I knew several railroaders growing up, from the B&O and our neighbor worked for the New York Central. They referred to all the stream line steamers as "Old whores in a new dress."

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      Thanks Richard! I suppose back then they were getting all worn out and "loose" but just kept getting cosmetic repairs?

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh Год назад

    i have a feeling she ll be good as new when you get done with her!

  • @azmike1
    @azmike1 Год назад

    You need to set up a small O scale layout.

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад

      I completely agree with you Sir! The wheels of progress are in motion as I type this. (although their really slow ) :-D

  • @clifnunnery4691
    @clifnunnery4691 Год назад

    LOOKS BRANT NEW

  • @normfredriksen1381
    @normfredriksen1381 Год назад

    👍

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      You were the first one to the party Norm!!

    • @normfredriksen1381
      @normfredriksen1381 Год назад

      @@classicmodeltrains
      My son came over for a visit ( Hockey game) so I paused for a while but man, I really wanted to see you dig into this jewel live for a change.

  • @stevenhaneklaus8087
    @stevenhaneklaus8087 Год назад

    Yup z scale by marklin mini

  • @jamesdenny4734
    @jamesdenny4734 Год назад

    What is an E-unit? 🤔

    • @classicmodeltrains
      @classicmodeltrains  Год назад +1

      Lionel's solenoid operated reversing unit. Their "trademark" name for it is a E-unit

  • @stevenhaneklaus8087
    @stevenhaneklaus8087 Год назад

    I'll try and send you some pics of it

  • @awesomeaustin5704
    @awesomeaustin5704 Год назад

    Something interesting to me is that this thing is older then some real steam engines

  • @azmike1
    @azmike1 Год назад

    A wonderful toy train! Looks great! You are a great mechanic! I am not.

  • @therailfanman2078
    @therailfanman2078 8 месяцев назад

    Honey I shrunk the S1

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh Год назад

    yeah!! thats what im talkin about

  • @DJBREIT
    @DJBREIT Год назад

    Doing the E-Units with out the right tools Sucks big time.

  • @jimweikak457
    @jimweikak457 7 месяцев назад

    Always use ( CRC ELECTRICAL CLEANER ! ) MY TRAINS DID THE SAME THING UNTIL I USE THAT, GOT IT FROM HARBOR FREIGHT $10.00 A CAN !, IS WELL WORTH IT, MARC TRAINS ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND THEY RUN LIKE BRAND NEW!

  • @jeffgrant2350
    @jeffgrant2350 2 месяца назад

    Great Video- BTW: Fla-Mare-ee-on