A point about siege ladders

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @whyyousobudu
    @whyyousobudu 4 года назад +4517

    At school "oh no, not another boring 45 minute history lesson"
    Later that day- "oh boy! 52 minutes on the history of ladders! What a treat!"
    Difference - the teacher

    • @Eidolon2003
      @Eidolon2003 4 года назад +142

      In a traditional school setting this would be less exciting, but still more exciting than normal history class lol

    • @cerebralm
      @cerebralm 4 года назад +299

      History MUST be taught by people with the gift of story telling. It's not about dates and facts and figures, it's about STORIES.

    • @fripplicious7466
      @fripplicious7466 4 года назад +111

      @@cerebralm unfortunately that's not what the exam boards think

    • @dwayneschmetsky
      @dwayneschmetsky 4 года назад +111

      I think it has more to do with how much you have to pay attention, what the stakes are if you miss information, and how much you're exposed. 8 hours of Beige daddy 5 days a week plus studying would get taxing

    • @dwayneschmetsky
      @dwayneschmetsky 4 года назад +42

      basically don't be too quick to diss your teachers

  • @shadiversity
    @shadiversity 4 года назад +5768

    I was summoned here by machicolations and feel more French for some reason. This video is peak Lindybeige and I love it!

    • @commanderhindsight1633
      @commanderhindsight1633 4 года назад +335

      MACHICOLATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!!!!!!!

    • @gerardvila4685
      @gerardvila4685 4 года назад +78

      French "machicoulis" with the "ch" pronounced "sh". Given that most of these guys were speaking some form of French (they were actually called Franks by their enemies), it's the most likely pronunciation IMHO. None of them spoke Greek after all.
      Edit: Archers could have shot through machicolations I think, not just from towers. And there were sometimes projecting wooden structures that performed the same function.

    • @drewinsur7321
      @drewinsur7321 4 года назад +55

      24:55 bro i think he missed the point with that raven thing: when the enemies put the ladder on your wall some body run there with a rope and tie or hook it to that mofoka and YEEET that ladder out. Preferably full of argentinians. Cuz im Brazilian.

    • @sabhyde5327
      @sabhyde5327 4 года назад +94

      Chadiversity

    • @leomar8577
      @leomar8577 4 года назад +10

      Shaaaaad!

  • @BenjaminEmm
    @BenjaminEmm 4 года назад +2186

    “A point about siege ladders”... 52 Minutes... Is it Christmas already?

    • @Patchaddictedpolymath
      @Patchaddictedpolymath 4 года назад +21

      My thoughts exactly

    • @jeroenimus7528
      @jeroenimus7528 4 года назад +5

      Was wondering something similar. That's a LONG ladder to climb. ;)

    • @ddddddd5425
      @ddddddd5425 4 года назад +2

      same

    • @jaykay5369
      @jaykay5369 4 года назад +1

      Stole the exact words from my mouth! 😃👌

    • @drewinsur7321
      @drewinsur7321 4 года назад +2

      Guys, don't forget to watch "how to build a perfect castle" by epic history tv, it goes realy well after Lloyd's video

  • @bradeki2997
    @bradeki2997 4 года назад +1331

    "My memory's not perfectly reliable." -guy who can rattle on for an hour with correct dates, pronunciations, facts, and figures.
    Yeah, I wish my memory was that unreliable.

    • @muizzmustafa4438
      @muizzmustafa4438 4 года назад +9

      Same

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 3 года назад +42

      He has notes

    • @theleetworldbest
      @theleetworldbest 3 года назад +16

      This throws me an perspective on my own speechcraft. I have similar skills of talking on topic of expertise, even if I've just read on it, for hours with dates, details, rtc

    • @turtleninjai
      @turtleninjai 3 года назад +12

      @@CraftQueenJr i feel like we need a what we see what he sees meming of this comment, because that seems to be a wall of notes

    • @Luduin
      @Luduin 3 года назад +15

      "a point..." goes on for 1hour

  • @Fade2GrayOG
    @Fade2GrayOG 4 года назад +715

    Shad: Do you want to be in my short film?
    Lloyd: Sure, I'm free. By the way, you've been mispronouncing machicolations.
    Shad: I've rewritten your part. You're now French.

    • @TealWolf26
      @TealWolf26 4 года назад +21

      I thought you called them mah-kick-olations because you kicked at the enemy trying to climb up. 🙃

    • @loddude5706
      @loddude5706 4 года назад +21

      'Merde!'

    • @MrMaxBoivin
      @MrMaxBoivin 4 года назад +16

      @@TealWolf26 You're not far from the truth. They're called "match[e]-col-ation" because you "mache" (beat) the "col" (neck) of those climbing up. It's a soft "ch".

    • @njarlblack1467
      @njarlblack1467 4 года назад +18

      @@MrMaxBoivin I think matche comes from the french "macher" what means mash in english. Neck masher sounds sufficiently metal.

    • @linkbond08
      @linkbond08 4 года назад +6

      @@njarlblack1467 metal content approved by metalhead.

  • @abesapien9930
    @abesapien9930 4 года назад +721

    I love the irony of the title, as it should more accurately read: "A Voluminous Inquiry into Siege Ladders"

  • @Puleczech
    @Puleczech 4 года назад +244

    43:20 The fact he scoured all his harddrives first and THEN the internet, clearly reveals that he has direct access to an offline medieval 𝖂𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖕𝖆𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖆.

  • @barrisonplayz4937
    @barrisonplayz4937 3 года назад +514

    Now I can't stop thinking about specifically bred anti-siege attack bees, whose existence depends on a very bored guard

    • @johnladuke6475
      @johnladuke6475 2 года назад +38

      Selected for their aggressive tendencies and rapid breeding, and the guards wear bee-striped livery.

    • @maxmccullough8548
      @maxmccullough8548 2 года назад +14

      @@johnladuke6475 yeah it's like a portuguese or venitian duke who keeps crap tons of imported africanized bees, on top of his fortifications, size some clay hives to be used as onager ammunition too.

    • @andrewt4456
      @andrewt4456 2 года назад +10

      Like any biological weapon, the issue in its deployment is ensuring its specificity in targeting the enemy alone...

    • @TrainerCTZ
      @TrainerCTZ 2 года назад +1

      The castle covered in strange full netting. Exits points on the wall for billions of bees to be released from......

    • @gentlemanzackp6591
      @gentlemanzackp6591 2 года назад +7

      ^^^^ there was a story on some french chateau where there was apiary right against some wall, and monastery was nested relatively alongside wall trees wildflowers in the area. one morning the guard was making ruckus up above on catwalk (wood board extension along stone path) accidently dropped one of the honey nest which was glued underneath the wood planks. it unleashed hell. however how humorous it was the guards fled inside the tower and shut the doors. pulled wool blanket over arrow silts. wedged it with tankards, food plates and random stuff they found at arm length. went downstairs, between corridors, and alerted others not to go to this certain tower and/or catwalk. it took about 2 days for the bees to settle down. Beekeepers urged guards to torch very dry burlap sacks and walk all over the tower. The guards did whilst beekeepers came and harmlessly gathered queens and rehomed inside wooden boxes. That was around 1390s France.

  • @ShieldAre
    @ShieldAre 4 года назад +1086

    Spartans: *Build a double wall during a siege*
    Julius Caesar: Write that down, write that down!

    • @Hebdomad7
      @Hebdomad7 4 года назад +44

      yo dawg, I heard you like sieges...

    • @robert23456789
      @robert23456789 4 года назад +12

      always good to take note's from history wish we still did that lol

    • @lowlandnobleman6746
      @lowlandnobleman6746 4 года назад +10

      Vercingetorix must’ve been real disappointed by that. I must say, I do feel sorry for him.

    • @riccardos2955
      @riccardos2955 4 года назад +16

      @CipiRipi00 I am pretty sure Ceasar had knowledge about Greek History. Greece was allready integrated in to the Roman Empire to that time and he was the highest religious figure in Rome. If he knew about that Battle and used the same tactics is debatable. Kinda funny if two army's found the same approach for the same problems without knowing from each other isnt it?

    • @maxvivian8642
      @maxvivian8642 4 года назад +3

      @CipiRipi00 either way weather he knew or not does it change anything? Is it really least impressive that he was studied enough in war to know past battles and then know when, how and the right way to implement it.

  • @cengiztaner4754
    @cengiztaner4754 4 года назад +263

    Lindybeige is probably the only person I'd listen to who talks about ladders for an hour

    • @ВадимСкуратовский-т4з
      @ВадимСкуратовский-т4з 4 года назад +1

      +1

    • @drewinsur7321
      @drewinsur7321 4 года назад

      24:55 bro i think he missed the point that raven thing: when the enemies put the ladder on your wall some body run there with a rope and tie it to that mofoka and YEEET those bitch.

    • @chrisedwards3866
      @chrisedwards3866 4 года назад +1

      His video on the scholar's craddle was wonderful too.

  • @dazhibernian
    @dazhibernian 4 года назад +854

    Ladders are ok. They've got their ups & downs.

    • @timlangley7169
      @timlangley7169 4 года назад +15

      I laughed harder than I should have

    • @RoboBoddicker
      @RoboBoddicker 4 года назад +36

      that rung a laugh out of me

    • @daslynnter9841
      @daslynnter9841 4 года назад +32

      I completely agree between ropes and ladders ill always prefer the latter.

    • @hosmerhomeboy
      @hosmerhomeboy 4 года назад +20

      this comment section is really stepping up its pun game.

    • @grovemeister04
      @grovemeister04 4 года назад +6

      oh my

  • @bodkinrappallum6137
    @bodkinrappallum6137 3 года назад +71

    Lindy is my favorite scholar on youtube. He can literally ramble for an hour about one topic, complain about his unreliable memory while also quoting and crediting specific chapters of a book and properly remembering dates, the exact details of things, and all the while still delivering an informative and gripping lecture. Freakin awesome, love your work! Please never stop!

  • @spudicous
    @spudicous 4 года назад +614

    "Ladders"
    52 minutes
    Never change Loyd

    • @Blackkey034
      @Blackkey034 4 года назад

      Jackindabox LADDERS

    • @aenorist2431
      @aenorist2431 4 года назад +6

      I assume his one point is "they make you go up, but wobbly"?

    • @Flight_of_Icarus
      @Flight_of_Icarus 4 года назад +19

      I am watching a video by a man who themes his channel on the color beige talk about ladders, and I am absolutely enraptured. I don't know what this says about me as a person but here we are.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 4 года назад +1

      Was bout 2 say.. Let me go get my 2 gallon jug of Orange Juice. for this one.

    • @-suiluj-
      @-suiluj- 4 года назад

      Lloyd isn’t it?

  • @ItsShooty
    @ItsShooty 4 года назад +242

    Seriously, I'm not saying anything new here but I will reiterate: Lloyd is the only person who can get me interested in ladders enough to listen to him speak about them for almost an hour.

    • @LiT_Moose89
      @LiT_Moose89 4 года назад +2

      Had to listen to an OSHA lecture on ladders for almost 2... this is thrilling after that

    • @LELANTOS11
      @LELANTOS11 4 года назад +2

      Frankly I easily could've gone another hour of ladder talk

    • @mamba101
      @mamba101 4 года назад +1

      At 3AM no less

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul 4 года назад +1

      @@LiT_Moose89 are you forwarding them his contact information?

    • @LiT_Moose89
      @LiT_Moose89 4 года назад

      @@Zraknul i should!

  • @SamGlaze
    @SamGlaze 4 года назад +528

    Only Lindy could make “a point” last more than 50 minutes, and that’s why we’re subscribed

    • @prince-solomon
      @prince-solomon 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, not for his countless frankophob remarks... that people seem to have no problem with.
      He´s just joking. Over and over and over again... sure. How many jokes exactly until humor becomes xenophobia? I need an exact number. With Lindy, it´s gonna be a high one.
      I like Lindy, but he´s like an older uncle that is very knowledgable but keeps making racist remarks that everyone is just pretending not to hear... or they´re just jokes...

    • @jayhill2193
      @jayhill2193 3 года назад +14

      @@prince-solomon
      That's why everyone makes jokes about you, you take these joke way too serious and that makes them all the better.

    • @Aqueox
      @Aqueox 3 года назад +3

      @@aweliano Idk. Everyone knows we're all different. Why not acknowledge that?

    • @murpaderp8461
      @murpaderp8461 3 года назад

      i still dont know what the point was either

    • @sheevpalpatine1105
      @sheevpalpatine1105 3 года назад +1

      @@prince-solomon i mean he is british, its a natural instict at this point to be francophobic

  • @sharpie443
    @sharpie443 4 года назад +216

    As someone who has nearly died a number of times I can say I have never screamed. I don't think most people would. It's just not a realistic reaction. I've fallen out of a tree stand and my reaction was to say nothing because I was to busy trying to stop myself. I know a guy who fell while repelling out of a black hawk. You don't have time to scream. People don't even always scream when they get shot. It would be way more brutal if a director showed a guy trying to figure out what to do as the ladder starts to go back and slowly panicking as the inevitable happens.

    • @Jackomantaco
      @Jackomantaco 3 года назад +21

      I come from Australia its the same when someone gets grabbed by a crocodile no screaming apparently

    • @sharpie443
      @sharpie443 3 года назад +15

      @@Jackomantaco I've seen a guy nearly get his arm cut off. He didn't scream. Just went into shock.

    • @marcosphillips4232
      @marcosphillips4232 2 года назад +11

      Lots of grunts and such though

    • @grizzlygrizzle
      @grizzlygrizzle 2 года назад +28

      @@marcosphillips4232 -- For my near-death or injury experiences, it has generally been a muttered, "Oh f-ck." Often, the "Oh" was omitted. And "grunting and such" seems to have been my go-to response for extreme pain, such as having a doctor fish around under my kneecap with a huge needle sucking out debris from a torn cartilage (decades ago). And a kidney stone. And a spinal disc rupture. And so on. No screams though. It takes too much energy to scream. And you have to take a deep breath first. I don't trust screamers. Screaming seems too deliberately histrionic and attention-seeking.

    • @pseudonym745
      @pseudonym745 2 года назад

      hubbub u

  • @JohnDoe-ny5nq
    @JohnDoe-ny5nq 4 года назад +797

    Almost an hour on ladders, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • @garymingy8671
      @garymingy8671 4 года назад +3

      Send him wine / an vodka , I bet he gets booted out of local bars - " no no shut him up /0ut ! " ..mope - walk- fogs roil - the slap o wet concrete - "L A D D E R S ! "

    • @G00N3YC4NG
      @G00N3YC4NG 4 года назад +7

      @@garymingy8671 I'd be the one buying him drinks right up until the point he was kicked out!

    • @Kiss76specialK
      @Kiss76specialK 4 года назад +5

      I imagine a top 10 points on ladders would be at least 10 hours long...

    • @zee7705
      @zee7705 4 года назад +1

      I was going to say .an hour on latter's that sounds about right but you beat me to it

    • @josefkun7466
      @josefkun7466 4 года назад +2

      What about hour and half?

  • @rextheroyalist6389
    @rextheroyalist6389 4 года назад +563

    I can imagine people gathering around Lindy in pubs like Socrates for thirty minutes at a time as he talks about the uses of game fowl in the preindustrial world

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 2 года назад +7

      What's the use of being a royalist, when you live in a rock solid monarchy already? My King is an airliner pilot! "This is your King speaking, welcome to the KLM flight to London Gatwick. I wish you a peasant fight."

    • @rextheroyalist6389
      @rextheroyalist6389 2 года назад

      @@voornaam3191 it has two uses.
      1. I support the furtherance and/or establishment of monarchy elsewhere than Great Britain
      2. I am in active support of the monarchy I live under (even if the MONARCH herself hasn't been perfect)

    • @Star-pl1xs
      @Star-pl1xs 2 года назад +2

      @@rextheroyalist6389 😬😬😬😬

    • @sctumminello
      @sctumminello 2 года назад +4

      I entirely would just sit there nursing a pint listening to Lindy eludicate on some fascinating if obscure topic.

    • @chrismac2234
      @chrismac2234 Год назад

      Id destroy him. I'm a professional soldier. There are many myths in his videos. Good fun though

  • @VictorianTimeTraveler
    @VictorianTimeTraveler 4 года назад +614

    Boiling water: no big deal
    Hot sand: whatever
    Lyme: Eeerr I'll just keep my eyes shut
    Beehive: *No Not the Bees! Not the Bees!*

    • @christophe5954
      @christophe5954 4 года назад +40

      Lindy has clearly not had 30 000 to 50 000 thousand angry bees trying to sting him, some castles stopped whole attacks with a few beehives. (I remember one in France which had beehives engraved over the gates to commemorate an attack on their city that was repulsed by bees.)

    • @antthegord9411
      @antthegord9411 4 года назад +18

      @@christophe5954 thirty thousand to fifty thousand thousand? lol
      that does sound absolutely godawful though, I could see how it would be effective. same as spiked pits, same as boiling liquids, etc. besieging castles during medieval times must've been a nightmare.

    • @MJFallout
      @MJFallout 4 года назад +3

      Double Whammy: Bees sauteed in hot oil!

    • @refinedbrass
      @refinedbrass 4 года назад +6

      just imagine like 40-50 bees on the inside of your armor under your padding

    • @humboldthammer
      @humboldthammer 4 года назад +8

      @@refinedbrass Now I understand why the guy jumped off the ladder backwards and sideways. Been there -- done that. It took me a long time to learn to control my fear of bees.

  • @jacobdonnely2608
    @jacobdonnely2608 2 года назад +33

    "I think it's far more compelling showing large number of people's trying not to die, and contending in a rational way." I think this is part of what makes 1964's Zulu such a fantastic film.

  • @banesnoN7
    @banesnoN7 4 года назад +168

    "Hot sand could be really irritating ..." Anakin Skywalker approves.

  • @patricianpenguin
    @patricianpenguin 4 года назад +43

    44:46 'This carries me to the main point I'm going to make'
    That was said after nearly three quarters of an hour of talking about ladders. Lindy really is amazing.

  • @justingrimshaw4815
    @justingrimshaw4815 4 года назад +153

    I’m already looking forward to “a follow up to ladders”

    • @Curathol
      @Curathol 4 года назад +11

      And you just know, it's gonna be 47 minutes at least ...

    • @justingrimshaw4815
      @justingrimshaw4815 4 года назад +5

      Curathol one can only hope

    • @Desron58
      @Desron58 4 года назад +1

      To cover what wasn't covered in the 1st almost hour long video.

  • @ronjones-6977
    @ronjones-6977 2 года назад +16

    He reminds me of my favorite history teacher. She could talk for hours and you'd just be enraptured. I didn't always retain all the facts, but it made me WANT to learn more about the subject. Mission accomplished. Good teachers are rare jewels.

  • @TestSubject-vv1kn
    @TestSubject-vv1kn 4 года назад +504

    Friend : "Hey, you've been watching that video for quite a while now. What's it about?
    Me : Uh........ *Ladders*

    • @felixmervamee7834
      @felixmervamee7834 4 года назад +31

      No, no, it's called "30 steps to victory". Gotta sell it a little.

    • @Jebu911
      @Jebu911 4 года назад +12

      If you put it boringly like that but in reality its a video about storming the battlements of a castle.

    • @hiimryan2388
      @hiimryan2388 4 года назад +3

      @@felixmervamee7834 nah mate its more like the slope formula equation

    • @spook407
      @spook407 4 года назад +6

      friend: .....are you planning to climb something?
      me: .....a castle......

    • @jek__
      @jek__ 3 года назад +2

      And like, not even modern ladders made of fancy materials with interlocking parts that can accomplish all sorts of tasks, just plain wooden ladders lol

  • @Rankerquat
    @Rankerquat 4 года назад +157

    Me, a forward thinking rival duke: "boye I sure love measuring the walls arounde this castle using bothe the shadowe and stringe methods"
    Some Guard: "Heye what are you doinge here with that stringe? Awaye Withe Thee!"
    Me: "Hahe! I am butte one man! Art thou reallye going to waste thine limited resourcese to rebuke me?"
    The same guard, nervously considering his three arrows, two rocks, and the bag of lime he had to bring from home: _"Ie Saide Awaye Withe thee-e!"_

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone 4 года назад +30

      The guard grymly noted his buddye had forsooth neglected to bring the tower beehyve....

  • @florianlipp5452
    @florianlipp5452 4 года назад +189

    Fun fact:
    the most important festival in Geneva is the "Escalade". It's a celebration of the citizens of Geneva repulsing a surprise escalade by Savoy troops in 1602. According to legend, the escalade was repulsed by pouring hot vegetable soup on the invaders.
    The escalade is not celebrated by eating soup, though. Rather, the good people of Geneva do it the swiss way and eat chocolate shaped like a soup cauldron.

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 4 года назад +7

      That must have been the last soup they ever had...

    • @TwistedAlphonso1
      @TwistedAlphonso1 4 года назад +1

      "I put the Lamborghini doors on the escalade."

    • @alandowning1320
      @alandowning1320 4 года назад +11

      I'm surprised Lindybeige did not mention this. "Ainsi périssent les énemies de la république!" the children cry as they smash open the chocolate cauldrons to get at the marzipan vegetables inside. Mère Royaume was the name of the woman cooking soup on the battlements when the Savoyards attacked by night.

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 года назад +1

      Fun fact indeed! Alas, if only it had been tea. The jokes write themselves.

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 4 года назад +8

      That was a very risky thing to do; Savoy gets seriously cold in Winter. The hot soup provision might have encouraged them to come back.

  • @alangriffin8146
    @alangriffin8146 4 года назад +31

    “So, thank you, Polybius.”
    This is so darned refreshing. And I concur, thank you, Polybius.

  • @jasoncp3257
    @jasoncp3257 4 года назад +204

    I love how this is a 50 minute rant about Ladders

  • @EtzEchad
    @EtzEchad 4 года назад +461

    "I'm warning you that it does make you sound a little bit French."
    Important safety tip.

    • @edgarbanuelos6472
      @edgarbanuelos6472 4 года назад +1

      It could save your life.

    • @johnlloyddy7016
      @johnlloyddy7016 4 года назад +2

      So basically, Ford is saying that their similarly named SUV model can climb over castle walls.

    • @humboldthammer
      @humboldthammer 4 года назад

      Born French -- at least the name has survived in America since 1683. As my Father always said, "A little French goes a long way."

    • @humboldthammer
      @humboldthammer 4 года назад

      @@johnlloyddy7016 No. It means "Over the Top." And it's Cadillac.

  • @generalgrievous2055
    @generalgrievous2055 4 года назад +227

    Engineer: Sir we can build massive catapults and siege weapons taller than the sun! What do you request?
    General: *L A D D E R
    engineer: Years of academy training wasted

    • @daslynnter9841
      @daslynnter9841 4 года назад +16

      Engineer: sir are you sure? We can make a trebuchet, or maybe use some of them new cannons! Maybe tunnel under them collapsing the wall and if not then we can go through the tunnel and....
      General: rope ladder, with little hooks at the end, and two guys holding it down.

    • @captainchaos3053
      @captainchaos3053 4 года назад +1

      General: I'm the leader I'll decide.

    • @Harabeck
      @Harabeck 4 года назад +3

      I mean, if you had more men than time, seems like the ladders would be much quicker.

    • @generalgrievous2055
      @generalgrievous2055 4 года назад +2

      @@Harabeck more men equals more people to push siege to equipment, breaching a wall with only a few ladders and a few thousand men is going to be a bad idea, so I think ladders are more useful for skirmishers trying to annoy archers and kill the first wave of defense so the initial attack can face less resistance, or better yet for lightly armored infantry troops to lead a counter-attack and flank those men fighting your main breaching squad.

    • @nottoday3817
      @nottoday3817 4 года назад +1

      @@generalgrievous2055 Well, the point is, if, for example, you push a massive siege tower (assuming there are no moats and stuff like that and the terrain allows for it) you don't want for the defenders to wait for you in front of it, spear and bow in hand. So you need a few guys to strike in more position.
      And the last thing you want on ladders is lightly armored guys. You want the heavies on them because they can resist being pelted by arrows and other missile.

  • @smathlax
    @smathlax 6 месяцев назад +5

    I come back to this video every now and then. I've watched the whole thing 3 times by now, and I'm not ashamed of it.

  • @bumpercoach
    @bumpercoach 4 года назад +219

    simple --
    "are you scared of heights?"
    assigned to sapping
    "are you scared of enclosure?"
    assigned to escalade
    "scared of falling and cave-in?"
    assigned to frontal assault

    • @glenpope4955
      @glenpope4955 4 года назад +27

      Afraid of dying? archer and artillery

    • @kellynolen498
      @kellynolen498 2 года назад +1

      @@glenpope4955 lol no all men are afraid of dying only cowards can't beat that fear

    • @glenpope4955
      @glenpope4955 2 года назад +2

      @@kellynolen498 yeah well considering the time we are talking about archers were considered cowards. Imagine the same for the artillery

    • @kellynolen498
      @kellynolen498 2 года назад

      @@glenpope4955 I wonder about the historical training of archers and artillery
      realistically they wouldn't be weak strong arms to to pull back the bow strings or strong in general to transport the artillery either in pieces or towed plus someone smart enough to put it back together if they move it in pieces

    • @SnowMexicann
      @SnowMexicann 2 года назад +1

      @@glenpope4955 Im sure the soldiers love archers and artillery lmao what are you on abt. They provide so much firepower and support for the sieging troops and the artillery also get used to breach the castle walls.

  • @puskajussi37
    @puskajussi37 4 года назад +127

    That escaladed quickly

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  4 года назад +65

      Ba-dum-tish!

    • @MirthfulMind_
      @MirthfulMind_ 4 года назад +4

      I was looking for this comment and the internet did not disappoint me. Well done.

    • @attemptedunkindness3632
      @attemptedunkindness3632 4 года назад +1

      @@MirthfulMind_ Don't condescend.

    • @Arcanefungus
      @Arcanefungus 4 года назад +1

      @@attemptedunkindness3632 we have to finally ascend above that

    • @citycrusher9308
      @citycrusher9308 4 года назад

      @@lindybeige Hello, an associate of mine has made a debunk video concerning your ''why men are expendable''
      ruclips.net/video/d-8_ARcPbBs/видео.html

  • @feedfancier
    @feedfancier 4 года назад +145

    "Caesar defeated the Britons because he attacked at teatime on the weekend. " Is that an Asterix reference?

    • @nathandickie860
      @nathandickie860 4 года назад +9

      By Jove.

    • @AmryL
      @AmryL 4 года назад +5

      Quite!

    • @stevemac6707
      @stevemac6707 4 года назад +7

      Well we all know those Romans were crazy...

    • @MrAstrojensen
      @MrAstrojensen 4 года назад +4

      Shocking. They're not gentlemen.

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 4 года назад +7

      Technically it was the hot water time. Asterix introduced tea.

  • @johnfowler8330
    @johnfowler8330 4 года назад +57

    When I was in training as a rookie firefighter decades ago, we used a “pole ladder“. An extension ladder with two poles, one on each side attached high up on the ladder, which could be pivoted outward and forward to support the ladder . While heavy, this ladder could be set up by four men, two at the base and one on each pole. This in effect made a freestanding ladder that could be adjusted for placement as necessary. Perhaps technology carried on from ancient and medieval times?

    • @alexanderkupke920
      @alexanderkupke920 2 года назад +3

      That would actually not be a bad design for a siege ladder. you can approch the wall with the ladder flat and don´t have to flip it over to lean it against the wall, which I imagine is almost impossible to handle depending on the length of ladder, but simply could push up the top along the wall while others push the bottom closer at the same time.
      I also wonder about how heavy those would be. a few years ago I had a roofer take a look with a ladder leaning against the gutter. The problem was that with the gutter being about 8 meters up, the ladder remaines far from straigth with anyone standing on it. actually the upper third turned almost vertical. This one was made of aluminium, but I doubt wood wouldn´t do the same.

    • @mrfrenzy.
      @mrfrenzy. Год назад

      I was also a firefighter. In my country we call this an extension ladder. It can be carried and deployed by two men. After standing it up on the "poles" you pull ropes to extend three separate parts of the ladder up, then you tilt it to the wall. It can reach 14 meters high and does not go flat.

  • @professorrubickmagusgrandi7909
    @professorrubickmagusgrandi7909 4 года назад +239

    Me, About to get in a fight: "Be careful, we don't want to escalade this"
    Other guy:"Wait do you mean Escelate"
    Me:*Swings a ladder at him*

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 4 года назад +16

      Looks like he *puts on sunglasses* won't be climbing back up.
      *YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!*

    • @5353Jumper
      @5353Jumper 4 года назад +7

      Jackie Chan is famous for his escalade kung fu techniques.

    • @ivebeenbamboozled9210
      @ivebeenbamboozled9210 4 года назад +1

      😁

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 года назад +5

      Fancy jump-kicks are for people who don't carry stepladders. Also useful in the grapple!

    • @LELANTOS11
      @LELANTOS11 4 года назад

      @@clockworkkirlia7475 yeah they're quite effective in wwe

  • @daslynnter9841
    @daslynnter9841 4 года назад +62

    Id like to imagine one knight started beekeeping as a hobby and everyone else was constantly complaining anytime they had to take over watching the tower.
    Of course thatd be one of the first objects thrown during an attack.

    • @daslynnter9841
      @daslynnter9841 4 года назад +7

      @G L.C meanwhile all the other knights high fiving in the background

    • @johndavidlockie1444
      @johndavidlockie1444 4 года назад +4

      It would be the first object thrown whether there was an attack or not

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 4 года назад +282

    *explains how archers would have trouble shooting people down at the bottom of the tower*
    Wait do I hear Shad screaming? Do you hear Shad screaming?
    *MACHICOLATIONSSSSSS*
    [edit: I wrote this like 5 minutes after the video was up, Shad hadn’t commented yet.]

    • @bastisonnenkind
      @bastisonnenkind 4 года назад +15

      I was thinking that in my head - and I see I am not alone ^^

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 4 года назад +11

      Macchiatolattechocolations.

    • @Habdabi
      @Habdabi 4 года назад +6

      MACHICOLATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!!!!!!!

    • @conorjames3533
      @conorjames3533 4 года назад +2

      I was about to comment this. Glad there are more of us here

    • @flamixflame2685
      @flamixflame2685 4 года назад

      Just look at the top comment on the vid, it's shad

  • @evankearney4865
    @evankearney4865 3 года назад +33

    Just discovered this channel, and as a person with ADD I just watched this whole video with hyper focus. Wow, an hour on ladders, and it was the most interesting hour talk about ladders ever. I hit the bell button, nobody has the privilege of sending me notifications, but now you do ❤️

    • @crazytrain7114
      @crazytrain7114 2 года назад +1

      You NEED to watch his video on tennis!! Absolutly fascinating, Beige is also quite an actor.

    • @kronoscamron7412
      @kronoscamron7412 2 года назад

      he is entertaining for sure

    • @Darkurge666
      @Darkurge666 2 года назад

      Same here. Although long time fan by now!

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 2 года назад

      As someone with ADD, I find ADD to do the opposite of what people think. When it’s something I am interested in, I can pay attention for literally more than 10+ hours straight. It’s just boring stuff that I find myself unable to force myself to keep paying attention to.

  • @ristoravela652
    @ristoravela652 4 года назад +253

    Considering that most sieges ended due to one side giving up, and months of siege was commonly seen as a preferable option to attacking, I would argue that escalades like all other forms of attack were seen as a bad option.
    Ladders were probably just among the least terrible options.

    • @kennyjacobs867
      @kennyjacobs867 4 года назад +14

      Yeh, Also most movie he complaining about it only the first few ladders that get this treatment, then they overwhelm and the fight moves to the top.

    • @commmarine9547
      @commmarine9547 3 года назад +10

      Agree. Hundreds of ladders going up on a wall overwhelms the defender. So, like any assault, a certain amount of losses is expected. A siege generally required a 2:1 ratio because you expect to suffer more casualties. Ladders in combination with rams, siege towers and artillery of some sort (all depending on era) overwhelms the defender.

    • @michaelstramm2366
      @michaelstramm2366 3 года назад +5

      Well, i daresay these Ladds where still tremendously though , just thinking everybody from on top of the Battlements throwing and shooting at them. I,for my part would post guards with short spears in top of the Battlement, so its okay come on here Ladds ,stab stab ,you got the picture? But anyway it seems to my opinion , this Ladderattack was a pretty costly option and therefore used only as a kind of last resorts.

    • @bewing77
      @bewing77 3 года назад +11

      @@commmarine9547 yes, a siege required about a 2:1 ratio, storming would require much, much more and there are examples from history where a handful of defenders have been able to defend agains armies. It should be noted that in modern combat, to assault a prepared defense it usually takes a unit class above the defenders; that is, a platoon in a prepared defensive position will take at least a company to dislodge, a company defending will require a battalion. And this is without permanent installations, just field engineering.

    • @commmarine9547
      @commmarine9547 3 года назад +5

      @@bewing77 thanks. Military guy here so understand the doctrine of besieging. Will say that the example of few holding off many was only achieved through tactical advantage via equipment, training, or location. Example, without going into detail, battle of Thermopylae. Spartan training (actual professional military force, not slaves or citizen army) bronze armor (not wicker which was main "armor" of Persians and the hot gates themselves, the narrow pass, as the location that provided the advantage.

  • @josephcouture2838
    @josephcouture2838 4 года назад +220

    There are still many ways to protect against this however as a person who regularly uses laders for my job I'll tell you pushing a lader away from the wall wouldn't really work very well at all, instead push it to one side or the other. Not only is it much easier but if there are any others close buy its going to hit them too.

    • @ToabyToastbrot
      @ToabyToastbrot 4 года назад +29

      Might be a width thing, we use pretty narrow ladders nowadays , but siege ladders could be pretty wide. But with narrow ladders that would be pretty effective I think

    • @ToabyToastbrot
      @ToabyToastbrot 4 года назад +12

      @jerry93y I won't say it's impossible, but I think a really wide ladder (like maybe 2 m) pinned down by a bunch of guys on the floor will be pretty hard to push away or sideways. But I guess what would need a try.

    • @JoshLathamTutorials
      @JoshLathamTutorials 4 года назад +11

      @@ToabyToastbrot Pushing it away would definitely be difficult with the ladder full. You'd have to get the center of mass completely out of whack, past vertical probably. That means you'd have to reach far out from the wall becoming exposed. I guess you could use a large stick with many men behind it, maybe with a fork on the end to hook on to the ladder or some kind of karabiner mechanism to latch on, but then you'd lose your stick.

    • @ToabyToastbrot
      @ToabyToastbrot 4 года назад +6

      @@JoshLathamTutorials Well for pushing away you should watch the video, if the ladder is at an angle of 30 Degree or so it would be pretty much impossible to just push it away with men on it and guys holding it back on the bottom. That point I fully believe in the video

    • @laurenceperkins7468
      @laurenceperkins7468 4 года назад +3

      The more steeply they angle the ladder against the wall the stronger the ladder has to be to support all the weight. Which makes it heavier and harder to hoist up the wall. For one near vertical just hook it with a pole weapon and get two or three guys to push.
      Or if there isn't too much wind, pour a sack of fine flour over the wall and toss a torch down after it...

  • @Dinotechnician
    @Dinotechnician 4 года назад +463

    “Call off the attack...there are some bees”
    Yeah, that sounds like a thing I’d say

    • @karoljones7455
      @karoljones7455 4 года назад +7

      Hell yeah, I ain't getting stung

    • @christophe5954
      @christophe5954 4 года назад +13

      Lindy has clearly not had 30 000 to 50 000 thousand angry bees trying to sting him, some castles stopped whole attacks with a few beehives. (I remember one in France which had beehives engraved over the gates to commemorate an attack on their city that was repulsed by bees.)

    • @adampalamara
      @adampalamara 4 года назад +2

      Naked and the dead

    • @stretchedmetaphor3238
      @stretchedmetaphor3238 4 года назад +4

      @@christophe5954 do you happen to remember the name of the bee castle? I'd love to read more about it and searches weren't yielding anything

    • @angelortiz4815
      @angelortiz4815 4 года назад +3

      Would be very effective if everyone is allergic to bees

  • @weatherman667
    @weatherman667 2 года назад +8

    One thing we learned working on Fighting In Built Up Areas is that you always want the ladder's top to press against the wall just below the level of where you are climbing to. It makes it a lot easier to get off the other end, but also makes it a lot harder for defenders to do anything directly to the ladder. Ladders are also normally held at the bottom.

  • @plasmathunderdx
    @plasmathunderdx 4 года назад +92

    He kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so no one could interrupt it was quite hypnotic.

    • @blacksquirrel4008
      @blacksquirrel4008 3 года назад +5

      Marcel Proust has entered the chat

    • @pineutrino
      @pineutrino 3 года назад +9

      @@blacksquirrel4008 Jean-Luc Picard has entered the chat

    • @SplendidFellow
      @SplendidFellow 3 года назад +3

      Come cheer up my lads
      Come cheer up my lads
      'Tis better to have loved and lost
      Than never to have loved at all

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 3 года назад +4

      😂Halfway through reading the sentence in my head, the beat kicked in.

  • @DCM_128
    @DCM_128 4 года назад +35

    It amazes me, the talent of this man to make literally any subject, no matter what it is or how boring it is, sound interesting.

    • @sethbennett617
      @sethbennett617 4 года назад +1

      True... but not if its french

    • @MacBorin
      @MacBorin 4 года назад +4

      That’s what I thougt when his last video had me on the edge of my seat and it was only about some cows having a friendly shoving contest in a field.

    • @matehavlik4559
      @matehavlik4559 4 года назад +3

      It amazed me years ago, when I started watching his videos. Now it’s expected :)

  • @selske23
    @selske23 4 года назад +73

    "A point about siege ladders" One singular 52 minute lasting point. Carry on Mr. Beige, wouldn't want it any other way.

    • @krixpop
      @krixpop 4 года назад

      will there be a "part two" ?

    • @miu6530
      @miu6530 4 года назад

      I played the video at 2x the speed

    • @miu6530
      @miu6530 4 года назад +1

      @Katarina Bleu ???

  • @ostlandr
    @ostlandr 3 года назад +16

    The "supports" on the ladder at 47:12 can also be used to very quickly raise the ladder. Used to call them "Pompier ladders" in the fire service. One person "foots" the ladder to keep the base from sliding, and several on each of the poles can heave it up into position in one movement rather than slowly walking it up.

    • @rorystockley5969
      @rorystockley5969 2 года назад

      'Pompier' is the French word for fireman, so I guess the name is pretty straightforward

  • @DustinM83
    @DustinM83 4 года назад +268

    "If you want to, go ahead and be my guest. But I'm just warning you, it does makes you sound a little bit French" - Is the most British thing ever said by anyone, ever.

    • @zachary4670
      @zachary4670 3 года назад +31

      With “I bet they attacked at tea-time on a weekend, the CADS!” being a close second

    • @jackmack1061
      @jackmack1061 2 года назад +8

      3rd, 'Napoleon was a right git.'

    • @subtleknife1073
      @subtleknife1073 2 года назад +8

      I imagine the "to me, to you"-reference wouldn't have meant a lot to most non-Brits. *chuckles quietly*

    • @grizzlygrizzle
      @grizzlygrizzle 2 года назад +3

      From what I've heard in history-of-language circles, Medieval Latin was moving toward pronouncing the letter "c" in the soft manner rather than the hard "c" of classical Latin. That may have affected the pronunciation of "ch."

    • @jackmack1061
      @jackmack1061 2 года назад +1

      @@grizzlygrizzle assuming that is correct, does that mean cavae canem was pronounced savae sanem?

  • @thekommandantschannel
    @thekommandantschannel 4 года назад +26

    I honestly watch these for 50% educational value, and the other 50% just because I absolutely love Lloyd’s personality

  • @panqueque445
    @panqueque445 4 года назад +30

    Can we appreciate how his style of videos hasn't changed in the slightest? I swear every time I re watch a video if it wasn't for the image quality changing and the date I wouldn't know when the video was uploaded.

  • @CoolestKidOnTheShortBus
    @CoolestKidOnTheShortBus 3 года назад +14

    A 30ft wall would be quite effective to combat 30ft ladders considering a ladder loses length depending on the angle. A 30ft ladder would be perfect for a 30ft wall if you wanted to climb it while it was straight up and down.

  • @thewyj
    @thewyj 4 года назад +26

    This video is spectacular and sums up this channel so well. Many channels choose to take a broad topic and cover it in scant detail. Lindy takes a topic that many might not even consider feasible and manages to talk about it in fascinating detail for nearly an hour. I didn't even know I was so interested in the logistics of ladders in sieges until watching this. Now I want to know more! And not only that, but it's all done in one take! ONE TAKE!

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 4 года назад +78

    BROKE: Build a wall around the city you're besieging.
    WOKE: Build another wall around yourselves AND the city you're besieging, so other enemies have to besiege YOU.
    BESPOKE: Plaster all your walls so they look nice because war is no excuse for sloppiness.

  • @D_A42
    @D_A42 4 года назад +127

    Lyod: "[Escalade] is a completely unnecessary word"
    Cadillac Escalade: "Am i a joke to you?"

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 4 года назад +16

      that proves his point

    • @felixtheswiss
      @felixtheswiss 4 года назад +7

      Try getting that thing across a wall! ☺

    • @kint87
      @kint87 4 года назад +7

      It's actually just the french word for "climbing", but dont tell Loyd he will be mad

    • @MrMaxBoivin
      @MrMaxBoivin 4 года назад +2

      Lloyd takes two "L", as you can see by the badge behind him.

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 4 года назад +4

      The Escalade is a truly awful car and a joke to anyone bar a few tacky rappers.

  • @Irishfrasa
    @Irishfrasa 4 года назад +60

    Imagine climbing a siege ladder and the guy on the wall just yells out "ya like jazz?" Before beaning you in the dome with a beehive

    • @DanDanDoe
      @DanDanDoe 3 года назад +3

      That would be a nightmare.

    • @blueberry1c2
      @blueberry1c2 2 года назад

      "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

  • @zep4814
    @zep4814 4 года назад +304

    "but the medieval world was far before Newton, so maybe physics did not work that way"

    • @accidos
      @accidos 4 года назад +14

      The physics from @lindybeige doesn't seem to be the same as newtons physics. You can't make a falling ladder swing back to the wall by pulling it toward you, neither by pushing it away from you. The center of mass will stay the same and you cant give the entire system an impulse while you are part of the system, thus it will continue falling. The only way could be to change the center of mass towards the wall. This could be by switching sides on the ladder, quickly. Or to give it a thrust momentum by propelling yourself away from the ladder and sacrifice your life for the ladder. Or to use a grappling hook.

    • @tukan1652
      @tukan1652 4 года назад +7

      for anyone who is looking for this moment - 34:50

    • @fwqkaw
      @fwqkaw 4 года назад +3

      @@accidos Wouldn't switching sides be similar to pulling the escaladder towards you? Just typing aloud.

    • @magicspook
      @magicspook 4 года назад +2

      @@Isometrix116 Still not possible. If you push yourself forward, you'll pull the ladder back at the same time because of the conservation of angular momentum.
      One possibility would be to climb further up the ladder while it was still further forward than at a 90 degree angle with the ground. You are effectively transferring the force through the ladder into the ground (out of the system), so you could change the angular momentum of the system that way. That is, if there is any more ladder to go up on (this doesn't work if you're the guy at the very top of course).

    • @nemo99nemo83
      @nemo99nemo83 4 года назад

      @@accidos No wonder they aren't the same physics....if you use feet your result will differ from all standard physics ;)

  • @willselley6693
    @willselley6693 4 года назад +206

    I'm self-isolating at university at the moment, everyone in my flat is miserable but I'm having a jolly old time watching a video about SIEGE LADDERS

    • @HeyImLucious
      @HeyImLucious 4 года назад +1

      You say that as if siege warfare *isn't* interesting as fawk....

    • @humboldthammer
      @humboldthammer 4 года назад

      Gonna take 50 weeks and spend it all in isolation. Until they end this virus with a United nations. Well I called my Congressman, and he said, QUOTE: We tried to save y'all, but you're all gonna croak. Sometimes I wonder, "What am I gonna do?" 'Cause there ain't no cure for the Trump End Times Flu.
      Escalade . . . from the French for "Over the Top" Cadillac's Flagship SUV

    • @Romartus
      @Romartus 4 года назад +1

      You've come to a channel where the presenter always appears to have slept rough before letting the camera rolls.

    • @joeyuzwa891
      @joeyuzwa891 4 года назад

      nice Transilvanian Hunger pofile picture

    • @willselley6693
      @willselley6693 4 года назад

      @@joeyuzwa891 COLD
      SO COLD

  • @mikeekim6314
    @mikeekim6314 4 года назад +24

    There was never a moment in my life where I thought I would watch a 52 minute video on siege ladders. And yet here I am.

  • @onetdev
    @onetdev 3 года назад +2

    The true love that radiates from this guy towards what he's talking about. Like I've been watching him for like 4 hours now, I started with only a 3 minutes long video. I have to call my boss that I can't go to work until I watch all of the videos from Lindybeige. Amazing.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 4 года назад +83

    Soldiers dying in troves with no attempt to protect themselves in battle scenes was what got me interested in ancient, medieval, and modern tactics.
    I think it was the cavalry charge in Return of the King that made me start researching why anyone would ever agree to fight in the front line where it looks like you have a 100% chance to die.

    • @polendri4812
      @polendri4812 4 года назад +28

      My totally-unvalidated pet theory is that this is one reason why pretty much all cultures had religions which promised an afterlife: soldiers who don't fear death fight harder and defeat their less-zealous neighbours.

    • @foty8679
      @foty8679 4 года назад +5

      @@polendri4812 in addition to the amount of power you get from being the religious figurehead (the goodly choose one)

    • @LumenP1023
      @LumenP1023 4 года назад +6

      but you realize, even with 6000 horsemen, you would not charge a mass of infantry that large right? You'll lose most of your cavalry. And when it comes to fighting a war, 6000 cavalrymen are worth a whole lot more than even 20,000 infantry. In terms of both training, and resources. Plus as the commanding officer, your master would probably behead you for taking such a risk. So if LotR ever followed any reality when it comes to battles, its really the Rohirrim who are outmatched. Not the armies of orc infantry.

    • @iceintheair
      @iceintheair 4 года назад +5

      @@polendri4812 death>constant marching

    • @joevenespineli6389
      @joevenespineli6389 4 года назад +10

      @@LumenP1023 not if your line immediately breaks upon contact, then its pretty much a mop up job. Better example of an absurd cavalry charge is at The Two Towers where the rohirrim charged pikes head on.

  • @barkebaat
    @barkebaat 4 года назад +27

    1:26 - Even as a metricly inclined Norwegian I have to admire they way he 'phlegms up' the word 'metre'.
    Perversely I find such loathing impressive.
    I could never sustain it myself.
    Well, there is the swedes, I guess ...

    • @hoegild1
      @hoegild1 4 года назад +3

      well the Swedes makes it so easy to loath them...

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 4 года назад +1

      Why do Norwegians and Swedes dislike each other? They must be very similar people.

    • @Gjoufi
      @Gjoufi 4 года назад +3

      @@JohnyG29 History is your answer ;) The Danes "dislikes" the Swedes too but mostly in a lighthearted and for old times sake kind of way. I assume it's the same in Norway.

    • @hoegild1
      @hoegild1 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnyG29 For the obvious reason, that Denmark has fought Sweden over Norway for about 500 years... they hold the world record in official wars between two countries. The last time they fought, Denmark lost and Norway became a Swedish province for about 70 years. The Norwegians didnt like that very much...

    • @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
      @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 4 года назад +1

      Anders Hoegild I heard Egil Skallagrimsson didn’t much care for even when the Norwegian kings tried to rule the Norwegians, let alone Sweden. Hence Iceland.

  • @chrispbacon4519
    @chrispbacon4519 4 года назад +23

    Lindybeige is the master of the single take. Absolutely brilliant, and quite awesome to keep focus and be so entertaining and informative for so long.

  • @robynn144
    @robynn144 3 года назад +15

    I have my own "point about ladders". At 1:05 Loyd mentions that: "Ladders do have a limitation...in the ancient world anyway" (1:05). I had a ladder slide away beneath me, and I fell 3 meters. Result: Open fracture of my leg. Saw my own bone! I'm alright now. It took two operations, and a year and a half to heal. In the "Modern World". In the Ancient World I had probably been dead as a door nail - from infections. So, I ASSURE you that modern ladders still have their limitations. Always make sure that ladder stands firm and take care when you "escalade" everyone!

  • @RSOwens4179
    @RSOwens4179 4 года назад +69

    In the fire service we routinely use ladders, for rescue we place them just below the window sill so that no one can accidentally push one away, we also keep a firefighter under the ladder holding it the same way. It’s called footing a ladder. We also use the ladder with legs on them.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 4 года назад +5

      and the fastest guide to being sure your ladder is at the prescribed angle is to stand with your toes against the feet of the ladder and your arms straight out from the shoulder - if you can grip the rungs, you're good.

    • @jacksoncz8536
      @jacksoncz8536 4 года назад

      The comment I was going to make, thanks

    • @theinacircleoftheancientpu492
      @theinacircleoftheancientpu492 4 года назад +1

      If you have legs on the ladder they can go where they are needed. 😀

  • @KarltonFranz
    @KarltonFranz 4 года назад +23

    Only Lindybeige can get 52 minutes out of siege ladders. I love this man.

  • @lupesimon123
    @lupesimon123 4 года назад +96

    You know it's gonna be good when the title is just "ladders" and it's 52 minutes long

    • @natkingcol909
      @natkingcol909 4 года назад +2

      Only 52 minutes??? He's slacking off a bit in his old age...

    • @Catastropheshe
      @Catastropheshe 4 года назад +1

      Long ladder 😆

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 2 года назад +2

    I envy this guy so much for his passion, he just lights up my screen, totally absorbs me for fifty or so minutes (but who's counting) and leaves me gobsmacked, blinking and almost breathless. Thank you Mr Beige. It's a year later, you've given me a lot of brain fodder during this time of plague, I really am grateful for the opportunity to find you.

    • @Cheesus-Sliced
      @Cheesus-Sliced 2 года назад +1

      he's like the medieval history version of technology connections lol. Both channels are brilliant.

  • @frankdutton2095
    @frankdutton2095 4 года назад +26

    “You might get a splinter...”, brilliant health and safety assessment during an attack.

    • @zacharyelliott7161
      @zacharyelliott7161 4 года назад

      Yes!

    • @Arcanefungus
      @Arcanefungus 4 года назад

      People died from that back in the day you know. Although, granted, despite potential nonnewtonian physics, a ten meter fall was probably more unhealthy even back then

  • @tyoma_14
    @tyoma_14 4 года назад +115

    FRIENDS: Bro, let's do something!
    GF: Babe, come over!
    FAMILY: Hey, come join us!
    ME: Ah yes, ladders.

    • @Catastropheshe
      @Catastropheshe 4 года назад +1

      Lol in quarantine?

    • @TheLoxxxton
      @TheLoxxxton 4 года назад +4

      @@Catastropheshe don't need quarantine to enjoy ladders

    • @Catastropheshe
      @Catastropheshe 4 года назад +1

      @@TheLoxxxton lol no, but I meant the first part sounds sketchy

    • @linkbond08
      @linkbond08 4 года назад

      Yesss

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 4 года назад +533

    _"A point about siege ladders"_ - *Another in the increasingly misleading titles of Lindybeige productions*

    • @bryankirk3567
      @bryankirk3567 4 года назад +9

      He does that, doesn't he?

    • @ItsJustVirgil
      @ItsJustVirgil 4 года назад +23

      Yeah was about to comment something along the lines of “more like a lecture on siege ladders”, it’s getting out of hand how these titles are compared to actual video runtime.

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 4 года назад +14

      A 5 minute guide to warships.

    • @zachary4670
      @zachary4670 3 года назад +6

      Is this a Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy?

    • @jonathanowen9917
      @jonathanowen9917 3 года назад +1

      Hehe... Lindy got you with his clickbait titles. 😂

  • @benshell8662
    @benshell8662 3 года назад +45

    Man I'd really like to see someone handle a 35 foot ladder with arrows, rocks and boiling water raining down around you. I work construction and handle longish ladders all the time, and it's hard enough to set up the taller ones without fear for your life added in

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, I think he way underestimates how hard it is to climb a ladder with projectiles coming at you let lone in armor and unwieldy weapons.

  • @sheepwars2959
    @sheepwars2959 4 года назад +33

    "A point about siege ladders"
    A 52 minutes long point. That has to be at least an underscore by then.
    That's the content I subscribed for. :D

  • @fieldmarshalgaig9477
    @fieldmarshalgaig9477 4 года назад +44

    "The ancient world was a long time before newton, maybe physics worked differently back then"
    Yeh why not

  • @scribeslendy595
    @scribeslendy595 4 года назад +47

    >"a point about siege ladders"
    >52 minutes
    I'd be terrified to see the length of a "a few thoughts on siege latters"

  • @jimaanders7527
    @jimaanders7527 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for the highly detailed bit about ladders. I used to think they were suicidal (in the movies). Now I see they were quite practical. Good show.

  • @mathiasortegav867
    @mathiasortegav867 4 года назад +114

    "ladders"
    20 min later: "Beehives!"

    • @Gapeagle
      @Gapeagle 4 года назад +4

      Video: ladders
      Lindy: defenders yeet stuff at attacker

    • @thalivenom4972
      @thalivenom4972 4 года назад +2

      it strikes me that boiling wax would be kinda worse then bees.

    • @Arcanefungus
      @Arcanefungus 4 года назад

      @@thalivenom4972 it wouldnt. Wax has pretty little heat capacity and would cool off fairly quickly. The attacker with a shield climbing the ladder now is an attacker with a wax covered shield. Well done. Bees on the other hand are really nasty when you can get them to attack the people you want to be miserable.

  • @haydenbsiegel
    @haydenbsiegel 4 года назад +352

    The beehive defense sounds like a tactic from Home Alone.

    • @tlw4237
      @tlw4237 4 года назад +10

      A beseiged force would sometimes collect together wasps nests and drop them on the brave fools on ladders. Medieval cluster munitions, each containing 5,000 independent homing warheads. Not many people would carry on climbing a ladder while being furiously stung.
      On occassion besiegers would use artillery to throw wasp/bees nests at the defenders to try and clear the ramparts. Presumably at points the attackers weren’t intending to assault themselves.

    • @dersuddeutschesumpf5444
      @dersuddeutschesumpf5444 3 года назад +7

      Look up the battle of the bees.
      You're welcome

    • @itchykami
      @itchykami 3 года назад +3

      "You Gauls give up, or are you thirsty for more?"
      I don't see an army carrying a beehive into battle, either as defender or attacker, in a way where they don't get stung more than the people they use it on. But maybe there's some ancient bee-pacifying techniques that I am unaware of.

    • @haydenbsiegel
      @haydenbsiegel 3 года назад +5

      @@itchykami Smoke puts them to sleep. When I was a kid I lived near a bee farm and that is what they did to get at their honey.

    • @lowkey423
      @lowkey423 3 года назад +4

      WELCOME MOON AND STAR

  • @alwaystinkering7710
    @alwaystinkering7710 4 года назад +58

    The hypotenuse of a triangle the 30 feet high with enough angle to be stable would need to be at least 40 feet, and if a ladder longer than 30 feet was hard to build, a 30 foot wall would be a good height.

    • @JH-lo9ut
      @JH-lo9ut 4 года назад +13

      Well, the whole thing is based on the assumption that a ladder can only be 30 feet long, a claim with no evidence or argument backing it.
      My experience as a woodworker tells me that a 10 meter ladder may be the limit for what you could improvise, but I imagine a siege engineer would have no challenge in constructing something exeeding that length.
      The maximum length of a ladder would instead be limited by the materials avaliable, wich varies from place to place.
      Likewise, the heigth of the wall is limited by avaliable materials, ground conditions, engineering skills and the cost of labour.
      There is a lot more challenges involved in constructing a wall than it is in constructing a ladder. The wall becomes exponentially more costly the higher it gets, and 30-40 feet may very well be the point when cost and effort just becomes ridiculous. ( this limit would be greatly altered by the invention of reinforced concrete and steel beam construction, but that is a long time in the future)
      Of course, you’d want to build your wall taller than the surrounding trees, or it’s just an open invitation to aspiring escalators.

    • @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000
      @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000 4 года назад +3

      Oh ye it's big brain time

    • @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000
      @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000 4 года назад +3

      @@JH-lo9ut the 30ft ladder is based of a hight to thickness ratio

    • @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000
      @EurofighterTyphoon-EF2000 4 года назад

      Also I'm subbing to both of you for being smart and stuff

    • @terryt643
      @terryt643 4 года назад

      Probably a daft idea but if they can only build a 30 ft ladder then you could only have the same to build the wall same would apply to scaffold i would imagine anyway great vid who else would get people having to comment about ladders 🤔

  • @rubyjohn
    @rubyjohn 3 года назад +2

    52 mins of Lindybeigeness. Beautiful.

  • @tigerboy1966
    @tigerboy1966 4 года назад +197

    Of course Julius Caesar attacked at tea-time and weekends, it says so in "Asterix in Britain"

    • @MrBigCookieCrumble
      @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 года назад +16

      How barbaric! Not fair play at all, i say!

    • @tigerboy1966
      @tigerboy1966 4 года назад +20

      @@MrBigCookieCrumble Maybe my garden is smaller than your Rome, but my pilum is harder than your sternum

    • @ulrikschackmeyer848
      @ulrikschackmeyer848 4 года назад

      It's always Nice to know that he's got his Classicists straight!

    • @LateralTwitlerLT
      @LateralTwitlerLT 4 года назад +16

      Not 'tea-time'. Cæsar attacked during a 'cup of hot water-time'

    • @Tyresio12
      @Tyresio12 4 года назад +3

      Also, seeing 200% AngloSaxon Lloyd referencing to French popculture... Tsk, tsk.

  • @francoislacombe9071
    @francoislacombe9071 4 года назад +97

    "I bet Julius Caesar when he invaded Britain attacked at tea time and the weekend." There is an album of Asterix titled Asterix in Britain (Astérix chez les Bretons) where Caesar does exactly that. 😂

    • @alexanderhoffmann1735
      @alexanderhoffmann1735 4 года назад +8

      Came here to comment on that. First straling jokes from the french and then going back to making fun of them.

    • @NoobLord98
      @NoobLord98 4 года назад +7

      As Lindy says: Romans! *shakes fist angrily*

    • @EwanV
      @EwanV 4 года назад

      Damn it, you beat me to it!

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 4 года назад +2

      That's what he is referring to obviously.

    • @iopklmification
      @iopklmification 4 года назад +6

      @@alexanderhoffmann1735 Funny thing is escalade and ambuscade are also French words, I suspect Lindy knows it but refrained from saying it.

  • @mikefule
    @mikefule 4 года назад +50

    The importance of morale: a wise leader never says, "Get your siege ladders, we're doing an escalade." That sounds far too dangerous. A wise leader says, "We're going to need to take steps to get into the castle."

  • @ninjireal
    @ninjireal 3 года назад +6

    0:44 Fun fact:
    During WWI, Belgium was defending against Germany. Belgium had some of the greatest forts in the world. But the Germans were starting to lose hope on a specific fort. “Well what are we supposed to do now? Knock on the door?” Someone said. One of the commanders present replied “Well, why not?”. The man drove up to the fort in his car, and knocked on the door. A peephole opened. “Do you surrender?” The commander said.
    And that’s how the Germans captured a fort by asking nicely.

  • @bitofboth1229
    @bitofboth1229 4 года назад +23

    I'm french and i find your comedic cracks at my country highly enjoyable

    • @TheMillerMilitia
      @TheMillerMilitia 4 года назад +4

      As an American I find something wholesome about English/French rivalry.

    • @TokenTombstone
      @TokenTombstone 4 года назад +1

      @@TheMillerMilitia Louisiana Purchase.

    • @MrBigCookieCrumble
      @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 года назад +1

      Dou jou alsou 'ave an OUTRAGEOUS accent? Monsieur @Pierre Vivier ?

    • @bitofboth1229
      @bitofboth1229 3 года назад

      @@MrBigCookieCrumble ahahhahah 'now go away or I shall taunt you again'

  • @MrHrannsi
    @MrHrannsi 4 года назад +29

    Me: Nobody can perform an hour of lecture about ladders.
    Lindy: Hold my tea and crumpets, with Great Courses Plus, I can.

  • @dethwisper
    @dethwisper 4 года назад +515

    "How tall should we build our walls sir?"
    ""Well, ladders can only be 35 ft. long."
    "So let's build our walls 30 ft. high."
    "Can't have a battle if the enemy can't get in."
    "Brilliant idea sir."

    • @benja_mint
      @benja_mint 4 года назад +38

      maybe the walls were effectively taller than 30ft when you consider a moat or other down-hill slope directly outside of the wall

    • @cauchyschwarz3295
      @cauchyschwarz3295 4 года назад +58

      Otherwise climbing the walls would be super difficult. Very much an inconvenience.

    • @benja_mint
      @benja_mint 4 года назад +8

      @Richard Vaughn yep a 35ft ladder will only climb a 30ft wall at the angle specified

    • @grief6052
      @grief6052 4 года назад +5

      Cant just break the game like that cmon now

    • @kennyg1358
      @kennyg1358 4 года назад +2

      @@cauchyschwarz3295 oops!

  • @danielclermont4631
    @danielclermont4631 3 года назад +1

    He is so articulate, and so knowledgeable.I was enthralled,thankyou.

  • @therealkillerb7643
    @therealkillerb7643 4 года назад +258

    I tried reading Thucydides, as Lindy suggested but couldn't understand a thing. It was all Greek to me...

    • @destinytroll1374
      @destinytroll1374 4 года назад +7

      What's that line from the book Five Children and It? "Well it's greek to everyone" 😂

    • @Acre00
      @Acre00 4 года назад +6

      Take your upvote and get out!

    • @AndrewBlucher
      @AndrewBlucher 4 года назад

      Even in English it's confusing.
      A is allied with B and defend from attack by C. D decides to attack C's ally E. B changes their mind and allies with C. Then C and D ally with A and attack F, who was pissed off with G. So B pays H ...
      Confused yet?

    • @therealkillerb7643
      @therealkillerb7643 4 года назад

      @@AndrewBlucher Idete paylikois umin grammaso egpaza tay emay keiri... (sorry, can't get the Greek alphabet working so I spelled it phonetically). KILLER B

    • @malkummog
      @malkummog 4 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @goldcard60
    @goldcard60 4 года назад +67

    you could throw jelly and sponge cake over the battlements - into the attacker's ears ... if you wanted to make them a trifle deaf.

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 4 года назад +5

      Only one man can give them the raspberry though: Lone Starr!

    • @jameswilliams3241
      @jameswilliams3241 4 года назад +1

      Everyone, under those conditions could find themselves in quite a sticky situation

  • @egeerdem8272
    @egeerdem8272 4 года назад +17

    This is the quality content I've been missing in my life.

  • @Crack_biscuits
    @Crack_biscuits 4 месяца назад

    It's this guys passion that makes these so enjoyable for me. I was lucky to have a great history teacher in school. The subject still fascinates me 20 plus years later . There are some decent channels for history on here. But this guy is the best of the lot, in my opinion

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 4 года назад +124

    "the crow"
    Looks like a Trebuchet meant for people.

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 4 года назад +3

      I used to think Trebuchet was some kind of fancy buffet.

  • @clickbait5714
    @clickbait5714 4 года назад +91

    Friend: "what are you doing tonight, wanna grab a beer?"
    Me: "sorry, no can do. I'm watching some Lindybeige, starting with "a point about siege ladders".
    Friend:"................okay"

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven 4 года назад +3

      What kind of friend wouldn't want to join to watch?

    • @mrgallbladder
      @mrgallbladder 4 года назад +1

      Surely you could do both. This is only an hour. You could probably listen to half of it on your way home from work.

    • @clickbait5714
      @clickbait5714 4 года назад

      @@mrgallbladder It was nothing more than an attempt at humour. I have no friends and I can't afford to go out drinking. I don't think I could even handle going to a bar in the evening. So I stay in watching RUclips and evidently fail at humorous comments.

  • @omariscovoador7486
    @omariscovoador7486 4 года назад +174

    Machicolations: *get mentioned*
    Shadiversity: *happy noises*

    • @Iliya117
      @Iliya117 4 года назад +17

      MAACHICOLATIONS !!1

    • @whysrumgone
      @whysrumgone 4 года назад +18

      For two minutes before he realizes he's getting called just a little bit French, which as we all know is the height of insult.

    • @armandomassimini3023
      @armandomassimini3023 4 года назад +9

      Someone needs to send this to Shad

    • @Quartan284
      @Quartan284 4 года назад +7

      Currently at 14:30 and immedeatly...
      - thought of machicolations
      - went looking for this comment

    • @damianmares5338
      @damianmares5338 4 года назад +2

      @@whysrumgone well, from my part, being a bit french is waaaay better than being even slightly british , so yeah, call me french all ya want
      *laughs in metre*

  • @smokey466g9
    @smokey466g9 3 года назад +1

    Love these videos, love the length the detail and the randomness/ unexpected interestingness of them

  • @earthwormscrawl
    @earthwormscrawl 4 года назад +35

    Maybe this could teach my wife to hold the ladder when I'm on it! "No, leaning against it while you're texting is not holding it!"

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone 4 года назад +3

      Does your insurance policy provide payout in event of loss of multiple limbs? Just saying....

    • @mjvjohnson
      @mjvjohnson 4 года назад +8

      Just aim for her when you fall. That will teach her! ;)

    • @foty8679
      @foty8679 4 года назад +6

      @@77thTrombone Maybe his wife wants the money from life insurance.

    • @wjf0ne
      @wjf0ne 4 года назад +2

      Earthworms Crawl
      There was a chap I know who fell off the loft ladder and killed his wife who was supposed to be supporting it. Tell her that if you fall on her it's more than likely that she'll die.

  • @seth1047
    @seth1047 4 года назад +94

    Nobody:
    Lindybeige notifications:
    LADDERS!

  • @m1k3y48
    @m1k3y48 4 года назад +77

    “I know we failed 25 times but the 26th time we’ll get them!”
    Luigi Cadorna at the 12th Battle of the Isonzo: *sweats nervously*

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 4 года назад +12

      General Melchett: they'll never expect us to try the same thing the 27th time!

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 4 года назад

      It did bring WWI to mind.

    • @nottoday3817
      @nottoday3817 4 года назад

      I think it was also a reference to Blackadder

    • @riccardos2955
      @riccardos2955 4 года назад

      God dont mention that fool, in Italy only Diaz existed we have a black-out from what happened before Diaz.

    • @riccardos2955
      @riccardos2955 4 года назад

      @@lostalone9320 Nah dont push that on Italy (the Nation wich was very young to that time) the fault was all cadorna's. There where multiple protests from the Gouverment, the King, his Officers and the army itself. After the 10th Battle mutinys became less of a rarety. Dont forgeth that the average Italian Soldier was just a farmer with basically no education, most of them couldnt even read. The defeat of Caporetto was what saved Italy from a total grind down like the French experienced at the western front. Without the germans kicking our asses and bringing out a reform, we would be Battling at the Isonzo till today. Has nothing to do with Bad position if you think about it, the mountains on wich they defeated the Austro-Hungarians later under Diaz was way worse in that aspect. But good knowledge about Italian-Austrian history Respect.

  • @ojs9068
    @ojs9068 4 года назад +6

    “Woah, that was a long tangent wasn’t it?” Can’t believe Lloyd only said that once during a 50 minute video on ladders.