Which loctite do I need? How to choose the correct Threadlocker Loctite Permatex IT MATTERS!
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- Not all thread lockers are the same strength just because of their color. Choose the right product for the correct application. This video teaches how to choose the correct one and demonstrates differences in colors.
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Love how detailed you go into “simple” things.
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I didn’t finish watching the video but I think what he’s trying to say is there is different strengths of loctite not necessarily only coordinated by color
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And to check the Harley Davidson manual for instructions which does nothing for my door knob related application. Or the "Why do these damned metric screws keep coming out of these stupid lawn chairs mom just loves even though they are designed to fall over in the wind which pisses her off?" application. (I think they were coated with some kind of red the first time from the factory. Had to take them apart when we moved.) I did get DON'T USE GREEN pretty clearly as I would like to service it without a cutting torch in the future, if needed. I'm thinking blue but now I'm all confused. Where is Wranglestar when you need him? Oh! Found it.
Thanks for the video !
I took your advice while reassembling the inner primary on my 2000 Road King. The Harley manual calls for loctite 262 so not being able to find it locally I drove to
the Harley dealer. They tried to sell me 271 for the compensator bolt. I asked for the manager in hopes of understanding why the dealer didn't sell the 262 pointing out to him that it was for sell on Harley web site and that manual says to apply 262 to the compensator bolt. The dealer manager could not answer my problem but gave my a bottle of a lock tite that wasn't sold to the public, telling me that is what they use. The Harley web site shows it for sale, the Manual calls for it, the dealer doesn't sell it and none of the auto parts stores carry it, WOW! I love the USA.
thanks for all your videos Shane. you drop some great information and tremendous help with all my bike work.
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Great video Shane. I appreciate it. I am an Apprentice Machine Repairman in the Glass Industry. We use many different Loctite's for many applications, many also high temp applications. I see many Journeyman using different Loctite's and now I have a better understanding of why. Sometimes it's hard for an apprentice to just "pick it up" or should I say automatically know what to use. Thanks to you video I may now be able to enter those discussions with knowledge.
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green loctite is for: Low Strength, Wicking Grade Threadlocker for Pre-assembled Fasteners, i just googled : what is green loctite used for... ????? i do agree with you... check what is this use for ... they are all different never just guess...
What loctite to use installing a hub centric for 2017 Tundra?
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Don't mind that at all, Shane. In fact, it makes a lot of sense to keep things simple like that :D As I mentioned in another comment, I'll be rebuilding the old Tomcat I've had in the garage for almost 3 years. I threw a rod going at about 140mph on the Autobahn and the engine caught fire. Luckily I, nor anyone else, got hurt and I was able to extinguish the fire rather quickly with the help of another driver (I since then always carry an ABC extinguisher in my car!). I've got a working engine lined up (from a ZZR1100) and a spare frame as a replacement as well as new shocks, fairings, etc. I'll be looking forward to getting in touch with you by then. Take care!
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What loctite product would you use for metal walking cane threaded attachments to the wood cane?
I just used the green penetrating thread locker on a valve lash adjuster but it is stated to be a medium strength product.
I have a question ? Could I use locktite on my wheel studs for theft prevention ?
Should I use red or blue thread locker on my bov?
Good video, thanks. Also worth mentioning that threadlock has a shelf life.
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Hey Shane alot of things I’ve learned were from watching you and your students for hours on top of hours over the years. I follow everything that you do to a T but if I don’t know something, I research & research, asking questions and so forth. I’m never guessing and taking shots at things I know nothing about. That’s a problem with most power sports technicians everywhere, so for that reason I do my own work privately. I do share the Channel and your work with friends, family and other mechanics.
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Great video ...thank you. Does anyone know if the referenced loctite user guide is available anywhere. There are a couple of variants on the Henkel website, but not the guide that Shane referred to. I couldn't find anything on the Harley website either. Thanks again !
Not that I know of. I beleive this was made for Harley Davidson University for a SkillsUSA contest. You could send the video to Loctite and refeference it and see what they have to say. Let us know if you do.
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Does anyone know where I can find a pdf of the manual he displayed from Harley Davidson showcasing loctite?
Hey Shane, I'm changing the clutch and flywheel on my van and when I removed the bolts from my flywheel I got oil coming from the holes? Iv never seen this happen, anyway long storey short I'm just going to put the bolts back in with the new part but I don't know what loctite to use to seal the threads as what ever loctite I put in there will see heat, engine oil, and alot of spinning and vibration.
Any recommendations?
I really wish they were teaching about thread sealant types when I was a collage all those years ago 😂🙈
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Wow I used blue lock rite on a crank shaft bolt on a trx450r I thought it would work just fine but I don't want to take it back apart and replace it with red lock-tite but this video showed me my lesson
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blue should have been fine , if you cleaned up the threads wire brush and acetone , any oils or fluids will not let the thread lock to work.
Three bond make oem sealant for Honda and Yamaha from what I understand, Hondabond yamabond etc
Hi Shane,
recently I had the negative lead come loose from the battery terminal on my 2000 Nightrain. It took out the rectifier/regulator, and melted most of the terminal.
I replaced both, and just last weekend again [after about 1000km or so] it was cranking really slowly. Again that same bolt on the negative terminal was loose.
The battery only came with a bolt and a flat washer.
I put a split washer in there, but it still came loose.
Should I have used some kind of locktite in there?
If so, which type?
The manual I've got does not specify a torque value for the battery terminal bolts [and you wouldn't get a socket in there, anyway] but I'm thinking it wouldn't take much to over tighten it - the terminal post is lead, yes?
I'd appreciate your thoughts.
:)
Perfect example of when to question just "fixing" with loctite! Harley Davison had a recall and 2006 on the Dina super glide where they rerouted the battery cable I believe. Before jumping to Loctite which should be fine I would consider whether the battery cable has been changed altered misrouted or simply needs to be recalled check with the dealer first. Please share the results from checking if there was a recall and share this video with your friends and support the channel thank you so much.
+Shane Conley thanks for the reply.
If I'd seen your twin cam series earlier, I may well have done the rebuild myself instead of spending the money.... LOL
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Would you recommend loctite on a thread insert on a sump plug? IF so which strength? I have a medium blue and a high strength red loctite 263.
Cheers
If just a sump plug never intended on removal I find manufacturers use red.
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Excellent, Thank You. If I loctite the insert (it's timesert by the way) can the plug be torqued as normal? Many Thanks again it's appreciated.
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Loctite rep came to our business and it was shortly after Permatex bought them out so actually are now one and the same.
Do you know if any companies are starting to use Nord Lock for these use cases?
I've been watching the Nord Lock content for a few years but have yet to see one in person. Impressive design from the locks of it.
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MY mechanic over torked my 2009 RMK 700 cylinder studs... So I had to put a Heli-Coil to replace the stripped threads... SO to be sure it was tight I used green loctite ! Hope it doesn't fail...
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can i used this on a dirt bike swing arm and the clutch case
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It bewilders me why most of the manufacturers do not color the bottle to match the product color. Seems like it would be a simple and cheap competitive advantage.
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Oh yea I remember ol skills USA from when I was in trade school about 15 years ago
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Lemme add my 2cents to this and i know this is an antique thread,, im gonna use 6 loctite number 241, 242 & 243 blue and 271, 272 & 273 red,, My understanding is the differences or how i read them is as follows, 24x is blue/medium, 27x is red high strength, then ea one is a larger bolt size. Startinv with XX1 being for smaller bolts , xx2 med size bolts and xx3 is larger bolts, the breaking strength is do to the original torque value of ea bolt, i also believe theres a slight or subtle viscosity difference between say a xx1 and xx2 or xx3 that said you would most likely be fine with a xx2 where an xx1 is req but not an xx1 where a xx3 is req,, for majority of my work i will default to the xx2 as that is for bolts uoto 1" in either the 27x high or 24x med line.. ... like i said just my 2cents on how i work.. oh and i ONLY use loctite as my first choice and then permatex as my second choice
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I only use Blue loctite for Compensating nut and Clutch Axle nuts swing arm nut , anything 1/2 to 1/4 I use clear fingernail polish , I clean all Nuts Bolts with Mineral spirits and acetone before using thread lockers. I have owned 3 Harleys not had anything fall off or come loose. My stock EVO 1986 had red on the comp Nut I used a 3/4 Breaker bar and Tore a Primary chain in half . Took a 3/4 Impact set at 800 Pounds, 150 pounds in the air tank to back it off . The Book said the nut torque was 150 Foot pounds . Red takes 200 degree fahrenheit to get it gooey was not going to use a torch on my comp nut . So yes it does matter what your using .
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i have locktite 680 very strong it hold for a year a up wishbone striped thread
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I need some help on my Yamaha YZF-R125. The manual only mentions "LOCTITE" no numbers.
Does anyone know about which number of LOCTITE I should use(now checking the water pump)?
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Get loctite 243. Should be blue and medium strengh. That's what you'd use most of the time in the automotive World
Threadlocker is a scam. Tighten till it strips and then back off 1/8 turn. Great video
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I'm in the powersports industry. KTM calls for a lot of loctite 243
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@@How2Wrench any input on how permatex blue compares to the different loctite blues available?
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Keep in mind HD tolerances are greater than most hightech motors.
I would break it down into air-cooled vs liquid cooled. Over the years I really got the oppertunity to compare many models and this was a big factor. Also a space for much debate. For example Twin Cams stock OEM piston to cylinder clearence is (your your model) .0014-.0025". Pretty tight on the bottom end of the scale for a large air-cooled piston. Metric motors are running similar numbers.
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Here's the parent website for Loctite products in the US. na.henkel-adhesives.com/adhesives/loctite-6182.htm
Check out the industrial as well as the DIY section. There's a lot more mechanics should know about than the threadlockers. It's interesting and useful info.
na.henkel-adhesives.com/industrial/threadlocker-loctite-13445.htm
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Why does he say green is permanent? Green, 290, is he wicking type, but it's actually a little bit weaker than 263 (red).
Examples of "types" There is green permanent type. The exact point of the video friend...
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Lol. Green thread fastener. Must use an alien laser beam to remove. ROTFLMAO.
so how the hell do you choose one for general purpose home/shop use???? no offense but this didnt really answer anything other than say they arent all the same ... whats a good brand for permanent use ?
Green loctite is not for threaded fastners really. It's cylindrical adhesive. (loctite 603)
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THis is a very good point in this video. I really cant stand it when people use the color as reference. There all all strengths of all colors it seem. (Blue Red) and different strenghts and removability of the same color. I learned about green loctite gromclickspring here on youtube its a substitute for soft solder for rods mounted in holes. Then you also have loctite plumbing sealant.
There is more than one green compound by Henkel. Go by NUMBER when ordering.
Poor ol' Bran Stark... if only he could walk away. :-/
Your not supposed to drink the loctite, but don't knock it until you try it, Read the medical emergency instructions first and don't use heat to unlock !
Why bother using colour as a reference when the manufacturer uses a number! If I wanted to buy loctite and asked for ‘red loctite’; they would ask me for a reference number and or what I was going to use it for, to be sure I got the right product. It is not very helpful to use ‘common parlance’ in a ‘globally’ broadcast infommercial. Incidentally a large proportion of men are colour blind and the terms high and medium strength are relative terms so not very helpful. However, I appreciate the wider sentiment of the video ; ‘don’t believe all you read or hear’.
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Such a long vídeo for this: Loctite has different colors and description so you better do your search to know which fits the most with what you want to do
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