The Army's has its own version of the Apple Vision Pro for warfare
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The US Army's ongoing Integrated Visual Augmentation System, or IVAS, aims to bring augmented reality straight to the battlefield, equipping all front-line troops with greater situational awareness than ever before.
Let's talk about how this Microsoft-based IVAS system compares to Apple's new Vision Pro, and discuss the implications augmented reality has for the battlefield of tomorrow... and maybe even today.
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Since it's made by Microsoft based on their HoloLens, wouldn't it be more accurate to call it the Army's version of HoloLens rather than Apple's Vision Pro?
The air force has had "augmented reality" or 'helmet mounted displays" since the 1980s.
The concept isn't new.
Apple ski goggles gets clicks because it's Apple. It's not even the best VR head set.
Sure but the HoloLens fell out of public conscious a while ago
Most people don't know what a Hololens is so he put Apple Vision Pro for more clicks.
Besides the Apple vision pro being better known, he also needed to segway into his advertisement.
Shitty Segway for a shitty product. @@bariman223
NOT shooting the messenger here. A sponsor is a sponsor.
And the phrase "to mug people" has a new meaning now.
*49 dollars for a coffee mug is absolutely ridiculous dude*
Yeah that's taking Bidenomics to the extreme.
Fur real!
Yeah, but that $49 mug gets you A CHANCE at winning a $3500 prize. Lame.
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@@alphazuluzhow many lottery tickets could you buy for that .think youd win a lot more than the cost of that
I can see AR being used for quite a few things in combat... like a tank driver getting a 360 view of his vehicle's surroundings, a squad leader seeing a birds-eye view of the battlefield and where their soldiers are, or having drone operators "ping" enemy locations to allow gunners to know where to shoot... that kind of thing. My fear is that they're trying to do an "All-in-one" approach where soldiers need to spend too much time and thinking into their headsets and it becomes counter-productive. Whatever final iteration the army adopts needs to be absolutely idiot-proof second-nature with little-to-no maintenance involved.
I think you nailed it. I don’t think this has any place on the battlefield for grunts anytime soon. Just think of how annoying selecting, copying, pasting, formatting, etc dealing with text on a phone can be. No f’ing way will all of the little miss-click style issues not make this ish worse for the warfighter.
Until it’s like the HoloLens glasses and basically just an unobtrusive and passive heads up display, this will be a fail.
These will likely be reserved for SOT-A and other signals guy. It's unlikely there will be any real benefits adding that much weight to a standard infantry soldier for vision processing. Signals guys could visually represent signals intel they receive in real time. They already have those systems in other form factors.
Something that could be useful would be passive night vision aiming since lasers are becoming a liability with the proliferation of third Gen night vision.
How about a minimap that tracks everything. Highlighting positions, listening to the surroundings, then also highlighting them in reality. Even behind partial cover. Also comunicating everything with with other equipment. If they got good i bet it could even improve grenade launcher accuracy with a videogame type arc on screen of where the round will go. All kinds of fun stuff! Red crosshairs when on an enemy, make it link with weapons to not shoot friendlys, or to atuto fire the weapon through a camera around a corner when on target.
@@brandonhoffman4712 the capabilities are limited to the sensors and data it can reasonably capture. Trying to replicate the situational awareness suite of something like the F35 with sensors that fit in your head isn't going to workout. They could augment it with additional sensors but then that defeats the purpose of having a light helmet mounted system. Honestly even just the added weight the unit adds looks prohibitive let alone the weight of the sensors it would add. That's why I said it would be a good fit for sigint and comint guys who's entire job is signals situational awareness.
Everything you've said is just theoretical and isn't added in reality where the data isn't nearly accurate enough to be that useful. The army has been pushing these things for the last 10 years and doesn't seem to be making significant progress from what they've released publicly.
Also strapping a radio that's always radiating to every troop is bad for survivability
@@ImperiumLibertasyeah or show bullet drop arcs
The US military has been working on this since the 1980s. But the tech was not yet ready, now it is ready and in a new infancy.
I’ve never understood why they don’t go more for the googleglass version, integrating it into eyepro. With just one hud. Then it could even be worn under nods
@@publiusscipio5697 would suck to get it in your eye, the intention seems to be to have digital night vision
It’s nowhere near ready yet for a bunch of reasons.
Camera passthrough sucks. They’ll have all the physics issues of other cameras leading to ISO choices of either long exposure or potato visuals. In either case, you get to choose visual lag or lots of visual lag.
Computation is a huge issue. The F35 pilot can fit a supercomputer in the back. Apple vision has three most advanced chip ever put into a portable headset (no, the military didn’t spend 5-10 billion to poach the best designers to design their own) and the M2 is also one of the most energy efficient chips ever made. But even with a decently large, external battery pack, runtime still sucks.
As mentioned here, the unit has field of view issues. There are wider units and they should have bought rights to use that. Given the timing, I’m almost positive the screens they’re using are inferior to the ones Apple bought and even Apple’s cutting edge ones are like looking at an old, pixelated screen because it sits so close to your face.
And of course, you’re already enough of a bobblehead with a heavy helmet. As pointed out, the issues only increase. Prolonged use is going to cause injuries both during service and afterward.
If you're seeing it, they already have something much better😂
@@mrbigberd While I agree with a lot of your points, the idea of the military not spending money to poach the best designers is... not correct. First, the military doesn't design almost anything. They pay companies like Raytheon and Lockheed and Boeing to design stuff. And those companies do, in fact, hire engineers for a lot of money (I'm one of them, and I assure you, I'm being paid more money right now than I can get almost anywhere else. Almost twice what Verizon was paying me for network automation, for instance). They're very competitive because they have to be to get the engineers they need to create the tech they need to create. Most of the time, the military is what's holding them back... the need for standardization, and specifically for standardization with platforms that are literally as old as my mother, puts a lot of design constraints on both the hardware and software that keep the products from being as good as they otherwise could be. But in the case of something new and novel like this, there are likely far fewer of those design constraints, leading to better use of the current state of technology in its design.
I'm hoping what we eventually see is something like this integrated into powered exosuits or powered armor, which have also been under iterative testing for decades at this point, and which can help alleviate a lot of the weight issues at least, but eventually all come back to the same problem: lack of portable power in an austere environment.
Don't know why Apple is mentioned so much. This is a Microsoft program and device. I see and support these head sets everyday and the capability has no comparison to Apple's product.
It's clickbait. Really a downer that Hollings has to resort to this.
Fusing thermal and low light magnification into one image would be a big deal.
If the low-light vision has the same fidelity as the newest Gen-3+ tubes.
So it’s the ENVG… A Gen3 tube with a thermal overlay.
that's now old tech :)
Or an actual tube/ ENVG that can put both imagers together without the need for IR gadgets so detection will be as minimal as possible
@@JainZar1The latest tubes would be difficult to match with CMOS or CCD.
Once they've overcome the burdens of nausea, dizziness, loss of vision, and anal bleeding, the troops will love this tech.
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@@primethreadnausea dizziness and trouble seeing after taking these things off or anything augmented reality or virtual reality is fairly common. But the results from troops in the field testing these are pretty profound. Basically we're not there yet
Anal bleeding lmao
This is due in part to people's frequency response. Some can see the 'flicker'.
Yeah, having flammable batteries covering one’s body in combat seems really fun! Oh I can hear my platoon buddy laughing but really crying….
I think every soldier should have an active electronically scanned array radar on their helmet.
Imagine the possibilities. It could show the trace of incoming rounds and approximate where they came from. That info could be fed into a larger battlefield management system, so air support or artillery could take out the threat. Or inside buildings small drones could lead the way and let soldiers look through walls
Give it time.
@@nommchompskythe radar is not going to “pick up” and create a firing order for small super sonic rounds.
after determining directions a scout drone or multiple are send in the direction to pinpoint and assess enemy further
@jlehm it definitely could. Supersonic speeds and tiny objects aren't that troublesome for modern radars anymore. That said, there is no chance a soldier is wearing an f15 aesa radar on their helmet. I think it'd make a nice belt buckle though
Didn't mention the impact of the weight on the soldiers neck over time. Speaking from experience just the weight of NVG's its battery pack and the counter balance weight on a flight helmet which is lighter than the ground pounders ACH my neck and every other helicopter aviators neck becomes an issue when disks collapse and surgery is needed to stay in flight status. Between the horrible seats in the aircraft and the helmets with NVG's, back and neck issues are part of Army aviation and a number 1 claim for VA compensation claims among helo aviators... which has yet to be approved for me. The fight goes on, I'm determined to be the first.
All sandboxx viewers should also watch task and purpose. They did a great video on this as well.
Their video was damn good.
Cappy does great work.
Agreed. Sandboxx, Task & Purpose, and The Warzone website are my go-to for military news
I TOTALLY AGREE! CAPPY IS THE BEST
gotta love some of that Average Infantryman content, bet there's a lot of crossover between the two channels...
Soooo.....it's the Apple Vision Pro....made by Microsoft...... Too bad we just can't title the video "The Army's New Augmented Reality Headset." But I get it.
no. its the microsoft tech thats been around for years. apple is literally the most behind on this tech. so annoying.
@@ItsJoKeZ LOL! Yes, I know. Re-read the original post friend. It's called IRONY.
@@ItsJoKeZ Just in case you need a little help, here is a definition:
Irony
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the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
Do it really matter tho
@@nutmaster2563 Enough for you to comment...so.....yes.....
When i was in the service back in *cough cough * 1987, they had a version of open VR at the Aberdeen proving grounds.
It was a dome that you gear up, go in and could practice tactics. Everything was projected all around you and was totally interactive; so yeah they’ve been working on tech in this space for a long time. 😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Did i just watch an advert for Apple?
Yep, while reporting on a Microsoft product. Really cringe.
Sounds incredibly expensive, but practically all the modern consumer digital tech we all enjoy today began as a crazy expensive military experiment decades ago.
A $50 cup…. I’ll wait for the $90 T-shirt
But it has it's gear down, adds to the value.
Hololens: Does all the heavy lifting + years of R&D.
Vision Pro: furiously taking notes.
I’ve used hololens and it sucks bigtime. Apple wants to go AR and I think the hololens plus their own research forces them to shift over to VR passthrough.
But when everything goes to hell you better make sure that you're soldiers can use iron sights.
They can. Assuming its just hololens, The "lens" is pretty much transparent. Its like wearing protection goggles with a HUD.
Its better to just use Acog.
I think it was Alex here who did a video on the Acog and how durable it was. No need for iron sights.
Agreed.
I think the even more notable thing would be the current NVG and thermal goggles going down to lower ranks. I know that happens all the time, but the idea of even the lower ranks having some pretty good stuff is pretty impressive.
INB4 everyone will have tech like that of UNSC marine in _Forward unto Dawn_ Halo Series.
Is someone getting paid for everytime they say "Apple Vision Pro"? 😂😂😂
Imagine a scanning system spotting a drone and putting a pip on every soldier’s view screen, you align your weapons optics with the pip and start shooting. Cheap and effective last mile drone defense.
well i didnt expect this to be an apple ads, yet here we are lol
Another technology that would work very well with augmented reality is acoustic cameras where one can see sounds.
e.g. Goggle
Acoustic cameras can SEE sound
and
The FLIR Si124 PD | Acoustic Imaging Camera for Partial Discharge Detection
and
FOTRIC TD3-LD Acoustic Camera: Unlock Efficiency in Your Anomaly Detection!
So on the Battlefield there are many sources that make loud noises, gunfire, artillery, quad copters, and these could be detected, ID' ed, and located using an acoustic camera, which is just an array of microphones plus processing.
Thus a soldiers can see where a sound came from and then immediately target it as it is shown on their augmented reality displays..
These mikes can be really small and mounted on a helmet sort of like insect antenna.
Exactly you could pinpoint incoming fire. I wonder why this hasn't been done, could be distributed at Company level maybe?
BTW, I just made a video and uploaded it to my RUclips channel that delves more on this idea.
Imagine being able to mark your enemies position for everyone to see or setting a waypoint around the map and your whole team seeing it
:picks up and keys radio: “You, this is Me. Visual contact, enemy squad, 2klicks 12-o’clock your POS at grid IE1234 5678. How copy, over?”
No, I still need the 2nd lieutenant who gets the squad lost in land navigation.
1:21 🤣
F'n Shameless, Devil Dog...
I love it!
$49 for a mug has certainly augmented my reality 😮
Oddly enough, the military version costs the same.
If I were to guess, it's because the same dudes are involved in the production process. Assuming Microsoft is involved.
I hope those batteries are "squaddie proof"
I can just imagine damaging one and going up in flames while wearing it!
They rarely catch fire after a rainstorm.
@@k53847 Metal fires are made worse by water.
Another great Sandboxx video. I love them. My only thought regarding US frontline fighters is that the US military complex are going to have to solve the Ukraine phenomenon, which is the use of drones on troops. I think the US military urgently needs to develop effective, defensive, directed-energy weapons to solve this challenge. Either radio frequency jammers for lower end drones, or laser, or EM pulse weapons for autonomous, AI-enabled drones. Otherwise, we’ll loose troops, goggles or no goggles.
Imagine how much tech they could have bought or created with the billions they've spent on this. It's the simple things, like you said. If you've got cheap drones killing your soldiers, it doesn't matter what kind of headset they have on. I know we already have "drone killers" but they aren't good enough. We need a single unit that can take down a swarm of 500 drones. Until then, people will be needlessly killed.
Might make em easier (drones) to spot with the visual support
@@paradox_productions It could but that would be a last resort. If you are seeing an enemy drone (and they are really hard to see, usually until you hear the buzzing sound), it might already be too late. Plus seeing it is only half of the problem. The other half of course being, that you have to be able to destroy it. Hence the need for the development of defensive weapon against drones. Most likely these weapons would have to be coupled with mobile radar technology (and as you mention perhaps feed drone location info into these goggles) to buy troops more time for countermeasures or outright targeting.
Australia already has several anti drone systems and even sent them to Ukraine and why major cities get hit less now. are you saying USA is way behind in this.
@@nedkelly9688 I could only surmise that at least publicly, yes!
The biggest shock of this video to me was a $49 'collectible' mug, wtf man.
Why would you say Apple when it's literally Microsoft?
Because the AVP is better than Microsoft. And I’m not even an Apple fanboy.
Microsoft and Apple are two completely different companies.
@@michaelt1775 That was my point.
Because he’s relating it to consumer technology. Microsoft HoloLens doesn’t exist in the consumer space.
@@RAY-THE-WAY AVP is a disaster. Cracked lenses, migraines, and black eyes everywhere. Sales have fallen off of cliff. Even superfans don't want to use, and that's _after_ they spent $3,500 on it.
Theyve been trying to do this for over 20 years. Big Army doesn't get it. It's still too heavy, the batteries do not last long enough for a real world mission and the troops absolutely hate it because they can't shoot with it on.
Add in the constant battle against excessive weight in the typical ground pounders kit, especially when it's stacked on their heads causing neck injury after neck injury, and I don't see this thing staying in rotation as a viable system very long. ( watched a platoon receive brand new squad level net warriors gear from a contractor and soon as the presentation was over, they walked to the nearest dumpster and dropped each of those 26 lb boat anchors inside)
And now you've got a battery pack attached to you that could catch fire/explode if you get shot or take shrapnel in it. I think i'd pass for now.
Imagine if Microsoft sees this video :D :D
Like how you're branching out into new topics! Great show!
Thank you man, sandboxx is my best military news channel
Looks more like a quest 3 military version than apple vision Pro. But probably cost way more than a vision pro. Vision pro doesn't even play games I heard.
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs.
Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
its a heads up display. not a apple product
with the added bulk and weight , i feel having just the lt.'s and hq. connected along with drones and unmanned ground vehicles , commanders etc.. to help orchestrate the tempo and flow, would be the best use of...
Man, soldiers love heavy helmets, they will be super happy about this news.
One eye looks out into the fog of war, and the other is watching Subway Surfers. Beautiful
imagine it being able to detect enemies by placing their bodies glowing hot while everything else is natural colored or being able to zoom 1000x to see where enemy fire is coming from also while rendering the distance of the shot tailored specifically to your weapon.
Imagine getting multiple kills then a kill streak pops up or you get shot and on the brink of death, a killcam pops up lol
But seriously, having a FPS interface irl is wild. Having a map and location of your allies is something out of a video game. The ability to ping a location and seeing it, translating foreign text/characters, thermal and night vision, seeing a drone’s pov, real time gps with directional arrows that you can see, facial recognition that will give you info on the person in front of you based on the database, target detection and all the other stuff you can do in a game, doing everyone of those irl is insane!
Ok, hooking it up the rifle optic may be the killer app of VR headsets.
when mounted to military head protection it would be counterweighted so it would have limited affect from its weight. although long periods of time would be unomfortable the training and famililarity with the system for ones who would be using it would likely eliminate any issues with discomfort
Great to see your back 🎉 hope the heal is a quick process
What I see right off in addition to the weight is the neglecting neck protection and shoulder support for its weight. They need to adapt like back packs supporting based on your hips. taking the stress off your back.
I've been following the IVAS for a couple years now. Never thought to comment on your vids about it. This should've happened sooner. Great stuff!
Damn, Alex ! Pumping out the info ! Thanks !
Can we get a CCA update, please? Love to see your take on the news on the conclusion of Stage 1.
Great coverage... Thanks!
Wow! When you compared the price of investment to this tech to 2 Ford class carriers and the aircraft to boot...amazing stuff !
One thing needs to be pointed out, IVAS does not use screens like in the Vision Pro.
It uses diffractive waveguides based off of those in the MS Hololens or the Snap Spectacles.
Completely different tech and of importance to point out here as I can see questions about camera passthrough latency to the screens on the Vision Pro. Diffractive Waveguides do not have this issue as they are transparent lenses with the visual overlays projected through them.
Therefore it has no nausea issues too
Having these in vehicles immediately double their effectiveness given the way they can look through the hull. The vehicle could have a simple plug in umbilical to keep it charged or remove the battery altogether. Building helmets in a shell format to go over the VR electronics liner might be the path forward. the polymer battery technology in cellphones could then be used so the weight is evenly balanced all the way around instead of just front to back. Infantry might want to go back to an old armor concept.
Something like a shoulder yoke that holds battery and computing with the flexible neckpiece being just wired "Fabric" like a fireman's smoke hood. Then you just have to mount gesture and light/ motion sensors to give a 360 degree view. Maybe a facepiece like the modern firefighters use with their tanks.
Tried a hololens goggles in our print supplier. They were developing a holographic assist of telling you how to fix things. It was pretty awesome. Its like how you "scan" in games, the lens pretty much knows your surroundings and objects. Interfaces just float in front of you.
My Mercedes-Benz has augmented reality navigation and it's awesome
alex going full cyberpunk for one video.
about the military headset, its going to augment soldiers all those "nifty" stuff you often only found in video games. like the HUD and indicators that shows waypoints that are faithful to the actual pinned 3 dimensional locations of the waypoints no matter where you turn your head to. including real time feeds from combat managers that would warn soldiers at field of potential threat spots from fresh intels. and could make soldiers litterally do "wall hack" where they already informed how many people armed inside a building and where they could be located.
or new intel just in about possible ID of a suspect and you could have that shown in the corner of your HUD vision, 3D arrow pointers of vector of where air supports is coming in, including the HUD indicators that highlight WHICH are allies on the battlefield so you dont misfire at them from the distance.
you could see your fellow squadmates "icons" representing their presence at any given time in 3 dimensional position even behind walls to have the best coordinations, including WHO those indicators are (with name/callsigns on the indicators). its inevitable. its how tech evolves. everything you saw in cyberpunk movies, and futuristic novels etc. those will eventually be a lifestyle. because those were coming from expectations. which DRIVES the developments.
Alex, you and your team constantly hit it out of the park, well done!
4:21 It most certainly does have that potential, Brother.
On a wholly unrelated note, how long until you begin dropping AR content?
🙂
Glad to have you back Alex, things supposedly went will with the medical stuff.
The intro music and footage for this episode was FIRE
The computer is not built into the external battery on the Vision Pro. It’s in the headset itself, behind and around the lenses. That’s why it’s so heavy.
Hey Alex I missed the update (if you posted one) how was the eye surgery?
Could you imagine them using this to change what enemies look like so soldiers don't see all the blood and death of those that they kill but instead something else like robots, cartoony enemies, etc. no PTSD, however this can also be used for evil, like changing what people look like to become enemies, adding information that's not there to force them into situations for objective goals against people who aren't enemies. These things are the tip of the iceberg. It's super cool to have these capabilities, but we also need to ask ourselves: how can these be used against us?
Good luck with your operation! Hope all will be well
Hmm wish you would have actually stated what the Army actual AR setup is based after, the old MS Surface platform now known as Hololens . The whole unit is based after MicroSoft's Surface AR platform and not Apples... Apple Vision Pro is similar to what MS had been doing with Surface in the early 2000s before they shelved the use of the name for AR and moved it over to a non AR touch-based computer platform.
Small correction: the AVP battery is only a battery. The computer is within the headset itself. 10:34
Are they hooked up to the optics/computer on the gun sight? Would be pretty effective to have a sight that compensates for drop that you could use while hunkered behind cover. Is it finally time for the future warrior? Surprised they can get it light enough to not need a supported neck guard to transfer weight to the chest rig.
Even if it didn't do this, the training, navigation, and coordination advantages would be immense. Being able to designate targets for others, ping exact locations you want people or notice things, get visual confirmation on targets from other assets, and generally have more options to not expose your position in day/night operations will be fantastic. The extra weight and limited up-time in a non-conducive environment will add some restrictions. Also not super excited about people strapping energy packs to themselves where, you know, metal fragments can turn you into a dancing sparkler. Need a fast release or something for those batteries. Maybe they are light enough that a few drones can do a battery exchange out in the field to increase endurance.
Well, you've missed an important alternate use. Mix this with Boston Dynamics robotics, you could literally put soldiers in a warehouse and have them control the stronger, more agile, and more injury resistant robots to do most missions. That would make some parts of the infantry a little more like the drone units...THAT would change the game.
If only for the ability to give each soldier or Marine an integrated IFF system, that would potentially be game changing.
you know what they say "the military is using or testing tech thats atleast 10 years ahead of what the public has available"
Will it be creating blind spots? It seems that it has clear sides for the periphery, but is the monitor "edgeless", or are they getting a blind spot similar to what you get in a car's windshield?
Will putting that much extra weight on the head increase neck injuries in say car accidents or if the helmet catches a bullet?
What level of latency are we looking at for the Army version? VR vertigo can be nasty.
Thank you ALEX 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
I’m curious to know if they ever did a simulated battle of soldiers with the headset vs ones without in a direct conflict.
So what does this have to do with Apple? The Integrated Visual Augmentation System (IVAS) is an augmented reality headset being developed by Microsoft. So the civilian equivalent is the HoloLens. 🤔
Welcome to tech news, where everything is compared to Apple.
I was also shocked. It's borderline disinformation.
for the common person to relate to.
A lot of people dont know Hololens.
@@looseygoosey1349 Audience ignorance is not an excuse for pushing borderline disinformation.
@@looseygoosey1349 He said it so many times that it was more than that. I bet Apple sponsored the video. That makes it an intentional misappropriation.
Assisted hive mind with perception management tech makes sense
I'M old I remember when the m16 was a light weight weapons platform now with all the add ons it out weighs a garande
Spatial computing is a truly transformative method of interacting with a computer but the tech has to improve drastically before it becomes common.
I wonder if it too will be made in Chyyna?
I've seen enough combat footge to know that our troops would really benefit from systems that can pinpoint the location of enemy shooters. Affordable and relatively small Doppler radar units are now available to track the ballistic trajectory of bullets. If such a capability was incorporated into each headset, the data collected from each headset could be used to pinpoint a bullet's point of origin.
@AlexHollings - how did the surgery go?
They could also be used in rehab of soldiers who've been injured I battle also,, or civilians etc also❤
How are they going to prevent sweat and moisture from getting on the lens?
Correction: Apple's Vision Pro has a body worn battery pack. Not a body worn brain/processor.
So that's why most weapons in scyfi movies don't have many scopes and gadgets on their rifles; everything's all built into their optics!
I figured a Apple Vision Pro as a gun sight would be amazing. Just put a camera on the gun and link it to the headset. You could integrate all kinds of tech like infrared and nightvision and object and facial recognition tech.
It’s crazy to think Microsoft could become a defense contractor
Augmented reality like these is phenomenal for doing repair work you are not familiar with.
Imagine the contents of that battery being bushed past your ribcage by a 7.62 round.
I think this will be most effective for use with vehicles.
Peripheral vision and timely inactivation are the first two issues that come to mind. I can see it working great, but there will have to be a lot of repetitive user testing to get it right (which Alex mentioned the military doing). This is also going to cost A LOT of money to develop (EDIT: Yeah. Alex confirmed that, too.).
I'm wondering how they deal with fogging during heavy physical activity
Great job on the video. I think the concensus right now is that it may be a little awkward to work with right now but the promise of it really is worth it. My comments are forward looking and may not reflect the current status of IVAS because I have used it. Training alone would be huge as the hardest part about conducting training is making it actually simulate combat. You always need some sort of opposition so training small elements like squads or platoons is relatively straight forward as you can just put those elements against each other. How do you effectively train a battalion or a brigade though? It becomes much more expensive to do so. It also allows you to simulate scenarios where you might be outnumbered much better. Having a squad train against a platoon of enemy fighters may be great training for the squad but you are basically wasting the time of an entire platoon to do so. This also really doesn't scale well. You may want to train where an entire company is outnumbered in your scenario but are you really going to waste the time of an entire battalion to do so? This gets rid of all those problems.
This also fixes other training issues. Urban warfare is very common in modern wars but how do you train soldiers on it? Are you going to let a company of soldiers just go to the local mainstreet and practice? Of course not. Instead we build fake buildings and even small towns to practice on but those have very clear limits. They are usually pretty sparce because it doesn't make sense to furnish them or put windows in them that are just going to get broken even though you need to account for all of that in a real fight. They are also very expensive which means you share them with a lot of other units for training, sometimes even transporting units 100s of miles, just to use them. Lastly they are really hard to change. This means that it is very easy to get used to the layout of your local training building which is bad. You know where people hide. All of this can go away, potentially, with IVAS.
Then we get onto actual war. It isn't just being able to see around corners and in the dark. You can share unit and enemy locations with other linked units. Think about how much easier it will be to do things like call in an airstrike or artillery support. How about submitting a 9 line medivac? What if they eventually are able to pair field medics with trauma surgeons virtually that could walk them through how to save someone's life? How about looking up weak points on the enemy tank that is infront of you with the built in database? Connecting with drones for surveilance? Showing the round arc when firing a m230 or a mk19? There really are a ton of options for where this can go.
Alex, how did your surgery go? I pray all is well.
I don't think the audio and video are properly synced in some parts of the video
Interesting - while you were wearing the vision pro ... I just skipped through until I could see your face. I think it makes the words and your meaning much easier to interpret.
One step closer to the Future Soldier glasses, YES!!!!
That is funny like I would buy a Chinese mug for $50 bucks
Great video. A counterpoint to the spend would be the army investing in bipedal robots with the same tech and or tele-operated. How many brigades could be outfitted?
wouldn't it make more sense to compare this to the hololens? microsoft is the one that's been working on the IVAS' development.
task and purpose did a decent piece on this. my school has tried using this for anatomy demos and it seems like its effectiveness depends on how good the model is. given how nauseous and dizzy it makes students in a calm/climate-controlled classroom, i'm not sure this can be widely implemented in combat. with how expensive it is and the challenges in ruggedizing it, i think it'll be a while before it sees significant fielding. I can see this going out to key leaders and personnel at the tactical, operational level like RTOs/FOs/JTACs coordinating fires, squad leaders and senior team leaders coordinating their movements, company and platoon leadership for command and control and coordinating with higher assets. but i don't know about PVT snuffy getting a set of these. he seems more likely to jerk off and get it pregnant than to use it in room clearing or good ol fashioned 1A.
plus with all the shrapnel flying around these things will need to be damned tough to stand up to not just getting tossed around by users but the rigors of combat itself. couple that with the logistical need for even MORE batteries, maintenance techs, and replacement parts, well who let's just say there are a lot of hurdles to be addressed.
i'm all for making us more lethal as a force but until these get WAY smaller and way more rugged, it's hard to see these going out en masse any time soon. at this point in development they seem more a hindrance than an asset, at least to the average joe, as fantastic as the potential for it may seem.