When the US military built Fallout's POWER ARMOR for real
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With the recent success of Amazon’s Fallout series, power armor has come back into vogue as a seemingly logical extension of today’s combat technologies, but these science fiction mech suits may be more science than fiction... At least, that's what SOCOM was hoping for in its TALOS armor program.
Let's talk about the Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit SOCOM aimed to equip Special Operations troops with, what it would have done, and what ultimately happened to the program.
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Almost all Sci-fi Power Armor Runs under the Premise it has an Amazing Little Power Plant On-board, so we'd need a Micro Nuclear Power Plant to really run Sci-fi like Power Armor for any Plausible Operation Period outside of Limited Operations...
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Lockheed has had a lightweight powered exoskeleton for about a decade. I saw a demonstration video of a GI running long distance dropping one suit put on another and take off running again.
No,all these suits would need are conformal quick charge batteries which are far ahead in development. No nuclear power required.
It's weird it doesn't exist today, considering exoskeletal mobility suits pretty much exist and are used in the manufacturing industry (especially automotive industry). They're not like what we see in sci-fi, but work wonders at reducing physical stress on repetitive labor jobs that involve a lot of lifting / moving. These exoskeletons would work wonders at improving a soldier's endurance and strength to carry another 25 to 50 pounds of gear and / or armor... that's all "Power Armor" is at the end of the day, an exoskeleton that allows a soldier to wear armor that they could normally never wear due to weight.
The main issue preventing it these days seems to be the power supply. I'm also not sure you would be able to kneel or go prone and get back up unaided.
@@echomande4395Exactly. These suits would be far heavier than what infantry currently use. That means they will need a sizable power source to move otherwise they will be literal dead weight and at the moment we don’t really have a source. A battery that last only 2-5 hours would be useless. The army at “minimum” is going to want a battery that can last 24-42hrs.
Even the most modern batteries that would provide any meaning performance over a reasonable timeframe are going to be really heavy -you'd honestly probably be better off powering your armor with a diesel-electric engine or hydrogen fuel cells because it's literally just as crazy from a scientific perspective.
@@unarmored9973 why does the idea of an engine in powered armor remind me immediately of Warhammer 40000's Astartes (Space Marine) power armor, given that armor's backpack power plant? 🤣
Granted, a fuel injected moped engine might provide enough power, but still . . .
@@echomande4395 Yeah Space Marine "Powerpacks" certainly look like engine blocks. Supposedly they're fusion powered, so assuming they're fusing an isotope of hydrogen, vents would be needed for dumping helium as a byproduct.
If SOCOMs TALOS program hadn't succumbed to massive and unrealistic mission creep, we would have Power Armor by now. The tech was there.
Robots are better. Look at Boston Dynamic's new Atlas. Make an operator an FPV driver and let the robot take all the abuse.
Now the closest we'll get (for now) is the TALOS mod for _Fallout 4_ which adds these real life exo-suits into the game; up on NexusMods.
_(came across it looking for a "TALOS" reference, as I thought there was a "Project TALOS" in FO3; seems I was mistaken)_
@@johnsmithe4656Ah yes… SKYNET. Nah I’m jk lol. Unless
@@johnsmithe4656robots still can't do everything. Like they would suck for patrols, urban combat around civilians, or special ops. They work best in very limited ranges, laying in hiding, or doing recon in the sky.
I predict we will have 3 different types of ground based drones. Some sort of carrier vehicle for med-evac or logistics, a low profile diesel-electric fighting vehicle like a mini Bradley that can do mortar, and a dog style walking gun-bot that can clear out buildings, charge themselves and lay behind tall grass waiting for enemies or a recharge. Like solar powered anti-personnel mines.
In my opinion a future squad would look something like the wingman idea. 1 - 3 highly trained power armored soldiers with a bunch of auxiliary robots.
4 minute mile for MORE THAN 1 MILE?!?!
In high school I ran high 5s in the mile but a 4 minute mile is absolutely bananas for more than 1 mile!!!!
The problem is creating a suit that can withstand the ballistic energy they will likely face. It has to, at the very least, be capable of just shrugging off 7.62 and shotgun slugs with no damage and NOT transfer that energy to the wearer while also not beinmg too bulky to move.
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Armor is capable of doing that pretty easily, the problem is battery life, and the trade off with weight. 3/4 inch thick AR550 or AR600 steel will stop an unlimited number of 7.62x51 with possible exception to special armor piercing designs, but add a ceramic layer to the outside and you can stop a few of those. However 3/4 inch steel weighs 32.1 lb per square foot. Some quick google searching tells me you might need to cover 20-30 square feet to completely cover an adult man. It might have to be more than the minimum, because you want padding and airflow inside, articulated joints, and probably extra large feet to spread the weight around so you don't sink into the ground too easily (given the armor alone is going to be 500-1000lbs).
Using UHMWPE, as mentioned in the video (or UHMWPE + Ceramic composite similar to common NIJ level 4 plates) will make it lighter, but dramatically compromises its durability. UHMWPE on its own doesn't do well against hardened penetrator rounds like m855, and ceramic is almost like an ablative armor, it will definitely stop what hits is, but at the cost of no longer being there to stop the next round that hits in the same place. For soldiers and cops wearing current plates, Uncle Sam has no problem swapping out a plate that gets hit, but on something like this I'm not sure it makes sense to build it that way.
Better to size up a little. Maybe thicker steel, or thicker steel in the front, or an additional layer of ceramic. Its going to need to haul a large and heavy battery bank anyway. The F150 lightning battery bank weighs 1800lbs according to google, so... yeah, we're basically talking about a 1 man tank at this point, with the weight of a car. Best consult a structural/civil engineer to think about load bearing surface limits in places you might be needing to fight.
But nothing is impervious. Even MBTs get taken out, so I think the real question is mission. What will this be used for exactly? Kicking down a door and making entry might entail a completely different set of logistical constraints as opposed to supporting a SF team embedded behind the lines, and so might be better served by two different projects.
@@83917MichaelAs it stands now, I’m guessing an exoskeleton could be very useful for support units and perhaps artillery units. You don’t need that heavy armour and you could get a power supply nearby.
@83917Michael Door kicking would make the most sense. In an area where you're going to get shot regardless that would make a power suit basically the equivalent of modern warfare Juggernaut suit and could be the answer to tunnels. Of course then you'd get grenade traps and it'd just be a counter to counter the counter. Human ingenuity
@@83917Michael At that point the "door kicker" should probably just be one of those human-sized tracked drones. It could be built to take .50 BMG or greater and even shield the rest of the team on entry. Many roles require the human element to assess situations, but that is probably the squad role most suited to a mindless robot tank.
It always comes down to energy (remember Iron Man? What made his suit possible was the miniaturized power plant). With the need for better batteries for vehicles, especially, but not limited to, e-bikes, e-motorcycles, and e-flight, eventually we will improve battery tech. When that happens, powered personal armor is inevitalbe.
Exactly.
In the 1990’s, the Army put a lot of work into the LAND WARRIOR program for a communication and a HUD system connected to a soldier’s rifle.
But was ridiculously impractical because soldiers would have giant batteries hanging on their belt and backpacks. Not the best thing when someone is already carrying gear and a Ruck pack.
It would at least a 100 lb lithium ion battery to meet its power requirements, but that would also need its own armor so it didn’t get destroyed and catch on fire.
And in Gundam what made the big mechs possible, and necessary, was the invention of a compact nuclear fusion reactor.
Agree
I've seen an idea where you have battery systems in place on vehicles that support the powered armor troops these would act as mobile carriers for infantry and the power
Read the original Starship Troopers (ignore the 90s movie.) The book was written in the 1950s and bugs with guns, power armor, jump packs, energy blades, and an orbital assault paradigm involving one-man drop pods. Absolutely ground breaking fiction.
Keep on the bounce trooper
That’s what inspired the game HellDivers 2
@@jeffhenriquez7209that and 40k
@@CheapSushi yup , saw the Anime version miniseries (OVA) back in the late 80s. They took some liberties to the original source material, but the mechanical designer who did the power suit was none other than the master himself, Kazutaka Miyatake, the chief mechanic designer who did Macross AKA Robotech. He designed all things mechanical in that entire show, aside from the Valkyries.
For the Vernhoeven's 1990s version, the gorilla suits were too expensive to CGI or any other special effects method so they made the cap troopers wear glorified football helmets instead and call it a day 😆
Imagine, during a firefight, the tincan going "Hold on, I need a car to siphon power off of" XD
The crysis nanosuit is absolutely the coolest suit.
MAXIMUM ARMOR
It's also one of the most practical.
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nah mjolnir all the way
@@Bagginsess
Mjolnir is the crysis suit with extra plating.
The most possible ONCE we have artificial muscles, which is not that far off (maybe).
Any exoskeleton that can safely propel somebody running multiple four minute miles has... Quite a lot of promise.
There's undoubtedly tons to be done still, but that's extremely impressive
the power suit would require solid state battery that has the power density required for 12 hrs. but future versions could be able to handle 24hrs plus and good thing the solid state battery tech is being worked right now for cars but will transition to power suits once the tech has matured like the mobile phone from the heavy cumbersome one to the lightweight iPhone that is today
The problem will always be the physics. It's why we have to use the elements we do. lithium and sodium One has way more energy density than the other.
Why not an atomic battery?
@@artnull13 atomic batteries don't deliver power quickly
@@ravengrey6874 they output a set current at a set voltage - what are you talking about?
@@artnull13 a fusion nuclear reactor can work but problem will be the weight and would require substantial cooling so most likely solid state battery packs would be used since they can be placed behind heavy armor plating to provide protection against ballistics
Power suits go WAY back! There's an article in 'Popular Mechanic's' in the 1950's were a man stands in a 20 foot tall machine with his arms and legs attached to powered actuators so every move would be mimicked by giant hydraulic appendices.
I heard the problem with that system was feedback loops would cause the machine to get fidgety.
Starship Troopers book was the first well thought out depiction
You guys misspelled "Bethesda" as "Bathesda"
lol even funnier considering the Bethesda Military Hospital exists
naval* hospital
Bugthesda
@@Butchdabuilder”it’s not a bug it’s a feature”
Halo's Mjolnir armour comes with biofoam injectors. Vision wise, something like the T-800 humanoid Terminator's vision that auto acquires possible enemies would really help.
Your wrap-up got to the point I figured we would reach. So many programs that were "failures" or discontinued end up advancing the technology further so that parts of them can be used in other programs or eventually mature into an improved version that becomes a classic.
No effort is ever lost. Technologies that aren't ready today, advance the fields for success in the future. That goes in every field of endeavor.
Power armor... probably the first time it was conceived in fiction was the book.. the novel (not the movie) Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
Nah, 20 years earlier, December 1939 in the pulp magazine "The Spider: Satan's Murder Machines" by Norvell W. Page. Featured monsters at first mistaken for robots, but eventually revealed to be men in bulletproof armor with greatly increased strength, finger mounted guns and described as "tanks-on-foot".
@@HiIeric117Sounds like they wrote about prototype Space Marines
I remember that Exo-suit cartoon, it was cool. The flying guy’s was the coolest. Always felt a bit sorry for the aqua one 😂
Did a research project on it a while back. All of the mechanical and electrical engineering that would be required is already commonly used technology. Look at the XOS3 developed by Raytheon, it was proof of all of this with the only issues being a power source and a way to actually handle weight loads (ie the mechanical hands of power armor). The second roadblock could be solved by some clever engineering, but the first will likely be unachievable until the public gets over its fear of compact and general nuclear energy.
YOOO EXOSQUAAAD! I had two of those mech suit toys, one from each side. One was the winged guy from the humans, and the other was the main alien guy's suit shown in that little clip (had the tri-claw hand). 🤘😫🤘
Marsh was the winged one... I can't remember the neosapien one you're talking about lol.
@@joeszymanski3540 Shit, that's more than I could've remembered! I wouldn't have been able to tell you ANY of the names, even if a million bucks were on the line... 😅
These should be called GUNDAMS in a nod to our close friends and their awesome and inspiring sci-fi idea
21:06 is an impressive display of the tech
I'd heard of the concept before, but didn't know it was still an active pursuit. Watching the EOD tech just carry off a 155 shell by himself was amazing! I'm loving these Sandboxx videos!
I really think Master Chief's mjolnir armor should be the goal.
Look up Project MJOLNIR. there are people doing this
It always has been
According to what I read in the book, that is actually very, very extreme of a goal. It requires a heavily physically augmented worrior to even use that without it actually overpowering and killing the operator.
So it's feasible as soon as we invent the fusion core. Gotcha.
This would be great for people on carriers. They have access to power, and they need to move around heavy things on the ship.
I saw a suit being tested at Boston Dynamics. It was working un-piloted so to speak, receiving voice commands from somebody outside the suit and had to be tethered to an artificial ceiling above it like a go-cart to stay powered. It was picking up and loading cargo of varying weights and awkwardness onto a table. This was back in 2010. There's no telling how far they've come.
Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers introduced power armor back in 1959. Unfortunately it didn't make it into the movie.
I feel like the modern version might include an electronic warfare suite and a VLS for switchblades
The lifting exo suit would be cool for FF and heavy rescue.
Dang Alex, you do such good ad reads for Ground News. I sometimes forget what video I'm watching because I find what you're talking about to be interesting too.😂
Thank you alex hollings. Always amazing videos from you. Much appreciated.
Life imitating art. These things were written about and put in a lot of movies. Those 2 things guaranteed the suits would happen because they made some people dream of creating them, and others who want them. As a kid my first memory of a movie is the opening scene of the first Star Wars episode in 77. And I've neeeeeeded a storm trooper outfit ever since 😂. I was 3, at a drive in theater and I was hooked.
You know, i remember hearing on an automotive podcast one time that one of their presenters was given a tour of a Toyota facility where they were building tundra pickup trucks, and he said he saw workers walking around with powered loading mechs that looked like the one sugorni weaver had in alien, cant find a source for it though
I like the TALOS goal. 20:41 statement equals increased range for foot soldier. I can see a huge benifit for forward firing crews to operate longer and lift more, bring in Ripley!
What about graphene batteries (which has 10x the energy density of Li-ion batteries and charges way faster) and that new US army battery that is basically 10x what lithium batteries can offer? Do you think those batteries will be able to revive the power armor tech?
It's make the trench clearing of the future war a lot easier if you could put a man-sized tank into a trench. I see this being another special weapon/point mans thing.
17:30, bit of an editing error here. You repeat the part about the power requirements, 3-5 kilowatts for 12 hours of operation, Tesla model 3, 25 miles.
FYI: There's a volume discrepancy at 5:10. Information is repeated, verbatim, at 17:10 - 17:50. Still a good video, though. I'd want to know if there were issues with my videos.
yeah, threw me off when i heard It lol, the repeating thing.
the energy demands, it's always about the battery.
one thing i hope to come out of future efforts is a battery that won't turn into a monstrous electrical fire. between teslas exploding and richard hammond's rimac crash, a highly kinetic environment will need a type of battery that can stand up to abuse and won't explode unintentionally. more ordnance is great but when you're in a suit of armor and become a bullet magnet, well that's like rebranding the old problems of a flamethrower.
There's been some breakthroughs in battery tech recently that make this armour more feasible
I remember seeing that way back and i had a feeling power would be the issue, but it will be interesting to see what happens in the future
Well now let's check it out.
This was a really god video on the topic. I also understand that a lot of the armor developments from Talos also made it into the latest generation armor. And yeah we may not have it yet due to the power requirements I think it is only a matter of time. We are working on fielding IVAS which is one of the harder parts of the system. Getting software that works and is actually useful to soldiers will take time to build but the Tech will be directly transferrable to a full suit. The power is the other hard technology that probably will not be happening any time soon given the rate of battery improvements. I do wonder if it might be possible to field usable suits without the armor that would work though. Currently soldiers carry about 100lbs of gear into combat. A suit that could help support that could be very useful.
Alex I think I've watched every video you've ever put out. Your content just keeps getting better and better. Keep it up man! You're the only RUclipsr that I keep the bell notifications on for.
What no one will ever tell anyone not involved in the project was there was a fold out fishing rod with tackle that had amazing results.
Popeil's Pocket Fisherman?
The British version will have a kettle of course.
Anybody remember “future combat systems” or “future warrior” and “land warrior program”? 1990’s and 2000’s programs. Cancelled 20 years ago but personal information and ballistic protection systems were integrated into land forces.
Don’t expect Hollywood (no reality or economic restraints) but improvements to personal kit will be diligently added and doctrine will be modified to accept it and produce a more capable soldier.
Kinda wish the OG Starship Troopers Mobile Infantry was mentioned as the primogenitor of the exoarmor idea.
lol, nobody remembers the HEV Suit that literally injects Gordon with morphine whenever he's having too much pain
If you had watched Anime, even from the 70s and 80s, the concept of Powered Armor (PAM as the Japanese referred to them) was already a staple in their Sci-Fi anime series. The most popular to enter the US market was Robotech in the 1980s, though they had gone to the GERWALK style PAM. Then there was also GUNDAM anime which took it to another level. Personally I think it had influenced the Star Wars AT-AT, and AT-ST walkers.
Why not use fuel cells
Like many innovation hypes, they wanted everything at once first before asking how that tech best works.
Don't throw exoskeletons at the front lines first. Have them for plane rearming crews. Or tank mechanics. People with good energy support in forward bases that deal with heavy loads. But those guys don't get flashy Socom projects...
I don't doubt it considering I'm making my own.
I doubt they're going to have half the features I'm planning on.
A lot of the power armor/halo style HUD visors and such don't leave the concept stages because actually mass producing such tech is prohibitively expensive and the US military wastes millions on enough dead-end projects as is. Plus the military tends to just stick with what it already has even if whatever's being tested actually is a direct upgrade without many downsides since its legally obligated to spend its budget but also is filled with careerists who want to keep things the way they are since any failures in the adoption process blowback on them and hurt their advancement chances.
Man how I have come to love your presentations, both in terms of the content and chosen topics and your style of presenting it all.
Always looking forward to new content from you, and as soon as it becomes available I immediately click !
Keep up your great work good American Sir!
God Bless 🇺🇸🫡
And today, germans DID develop a working exoskeleton for soldiers. Not powered, less electronic equipment, but working by "carrying" additional 25 or 30 kilograms (of balistic protection, stabilized heavy weaponry and ammunition or other helping load), with close to none strain on soldier. Name is ExoM.
Hey Alex, there's an audio-loop editing mistake around the 17:00 mark.
Holy crap. I just heard "Exo-Squad". We should clone dinosaurs, armor them up, and put lasers on them. Then we'll have "Dino-Riders". We'll be unstoppable.
In all seriousness, batteries are a dead end. Man portable power generation should be the goal. It will be on the list with the longbow, gunpowder, and flight as the most transformative military technologies in history. Considering our other, far more pressing power generation problems, the answer to one will likely be the answer to the other. What could possibly go wrong!?!
I'm old enough to remember playing with Dino Riders at a neighbors house. I was fond of the Centurions.
DARPA already does this bro! Cost vs value
To stop the jet without missiles and still survive it seems like they could just drop down on the wing and then hit the eject button and have a chance to survive. Maybe even land on the cockpit of the airliner and eject.
Hot swappable Aluminum-Air batteries could solve the power issue but they are still not fully mature tech despite being well studied and many versions being available. They have about the highest energy-weight-ratio possible with modern battery technology but are an order of magnitude worse when it comes to power to weight ratio. Lithium Ion batteries can get up to 390kJ/Kg at around 3300W/Kg for some models but an aluminum air battery would be around 4680kJ/kg but only 130W/kg.
TL:DR. If using Lithium Ion or Lithium Sulfur batteries you can easily meet the power/Weight requirement but will have a pittance of the endurance required and without significant advancements (although advancements physics says should be possible) Aluminum-Air batteries can easily meet the endurance requirement
Like the fact the military used Talos as the name for this project. It was originally the name of a legendary bronze automaton that protected the ancient island of Crete. It was taken over into the Dungeons and Dragons game in the 1970s as a triple strength iron golem. So, it has a long history of use in connection with robots and automatons of one sort or another.
I can see some type of power Armor used for Logistics.
Like for distributing ammo working on warehouse.
honda has an upper body exoskeleton for warehouse and factory workers for heavy lift assist purposes. guess its not surprising darpa would have at the least researched it.
So it boils down to power. Hopefully if we can ever create power sources small and light (and safe) enough this concept will be revisited.
I doubt any team of operators ever thinks, "We need bigger guys" because small and nimble is much more useful when clearing rooms, finding cover etc. If a powered armour suit had a useable power supply, it would be pretty bulky, even with Li-ion batteries wouldn't you think?
I’ve explored this myself years ago & designed a very realistic possibility:
- Power: The power isn’t a problem. We’d use the safe, small, cheap, powerful, nuclear fusion generator I designed w/ today’s tech; imagine 1 square foot (that could actually be much smaller) that produces 1.25 x 10^19 MeV, or 2,002,720.7062500000466 watt-seconds. This can last for, roughly, 8 years (give or take) w/o swapping out the power pack.
- For the armor plate: We’d just use superalloys. If I can use the internet to find the EXACT recipe for multiple superalloys (Waspalloy, different Inconels, CrCoN, etc.), others can very easily do the same.
- For strength: We’d use hydraulic actuators using synthetic Resilin as the seals, so they’d never ever leak & need to be replaced. We’d also make the pilots each wear a skin tight suit w/ electrical diodes to touch specific point(s) on their skin (the form-fitting factor would make the diodes don’t shift), & those diodes touch larger diode areas(s) w/in the exoarmor suit. These diode chains electrically amplify the wearers natural muscles w/ millivolts of energy to continually further amplify their strength (this also slightly exercises their muscles, building them up over time). The form-fitting suit is specific to each pilot, allowing the exoarmor to be more generic & not need to be 1 special suit that only 1 pilot can ever use. The skin suit can be relatively thin & lightweight; like thick cloth or something, but preferably NOT Kevlar (plastic melts).
- Cooling: A cooling liquid can be permanently pumped through a closed-unit piping system w/in the exoarmor to keep the wearer cool. A separate warming liquid can be in separate pipes, or 1 liquid can be used & the pump can alternate between cooling or warming; power for this pump comes from the suit.
- Stealth: I came up w/ a way to make a stealth coating as dark as deep space, that’s similar to (but VERY differently made) VANTABLACK.
- Thermal Deflection: The metal of the armor plates will deflect most incoming thermal energy.
Step 1: have a fusion reactor
@@JoshX9706
That’s what I said
I imagine the lifting, speed, and endurance capabilities would be very useful for logistics personnel.
Keep in mind in the fallout series their batteries are far more advanced. They use nuclear fusion batteries. Which also gives off a mini nuke if hit by weapons fire.
Yaaaa nah power armor or armored suits sound cool until you realize all the drawbacks. Armor is loud so stealth is out of the question. Its also heavy and even if its powered you have to well...power it. Kenetic energy is still a thing so the idea of taking a bunch of rifle or high caliber rounds and being fine is just not going to be a thing. Not to mention the thickness of armor actually needed to be effective continuously. And what happens in the event of an injury? You'd have to take the armor off of the soldier which is time taken away from rendering aid. If you have to move them out of the line of fire good luck due to the weight. Hell they show that in the show. One of the Knights gets hit with an explosive and falls down. He likely had serious shapenel injuries or even a severed limb. But because of the weight of the armor and his injuries he 1 couldn't get up but also can't be moved without some serious hardwear. Hell moving him or getting him out of the suit could end up doing more damage. As cool as the idea is its just flat out NOT a realistic thing.
So far as I know, they have an exoskeleton to move and stack boxes, load, and attach missiles and bombs to aircraft . Anything to aide a single man to work like 3 men. I'm not sure if it's deployed today or not yet . I'm just thinking about how much the power can increase with a small pellet of nuclear material to power a larger hydraulic pump and actuators to lift 6000 lbs. It would need 4 inch I beam frame for feet and arms bigger for the connecting backbone. Low winch type gearing and about 60 horsepower. LOL. Think how far it could jump as it makes it's best strides at about 40 mph on ground. LOL.
The toc conversion figurations I mentioned earlier have a perpetual motion in them that is configured in various ways of design depending on target task at hand ttah focus on the chess. Board not the pieces and easy of manufacturing and supplies can win contracts and wars over any thing is a cosmic law of all.
Tell me one thing, how thick an armor should be just to resist (no broken ribs) the new m7 rifle with the fury round? 15 cm/6 inches? What is the weight of a full armor vest then? 80kg/180 pounds? Almost the double of an infantry soldier. But that implies a full 12kWh battery just to be used in 24h, just for a day. And that’s just for a faster stroll. For a combat engagement it needs at least double of that. In short, commercially available batteries of the present don’t exist. I think that a passive exoskeleton that improves physical durability (it needs better mounting) should allow some heavier armor. And armor needs drastical improvements. But the sensor augmentation for a 360 degree extended range awareness with augmented reality doesn’t need all that energy, actually it needs just a let’s say a 16 inch MacBook battery or two. That’s definitely doable. For a useable suit of armor you need 10x energy density in a 1/10 weight and 1/5 volume so a 500x improvement of actual state of batteries.
Thumbs up for Exosquad. "Phaeton thought that destroying an entire planet would be the ultimate expression of power. That was his lack of imagination. The ultimate power is the power of creation."
Dr. Algernon had so many great quotes in that show. My favorite was “Gravity is matter‘s response to the loneliness of space. It’s love you see, love that moves the stars.”
@@jaynix8713 ExoSquad was one of the few "kids" shows with actual deep concepts and philosophy. I had to look up the quote tbh, i just remember as a kid being floored by the writing.
I’m surprised the armed services aren’t utilizing exo-suits for things like weapons loaders for aircraft and other tasks that require heavy lifting.
Combat capable suits seem a little ways off, but it does seem the tech could assist in jobs where heavy lifting or repetitive motions are needed.
Finally! Someone else remembers Exosquad. That's a series that needs a good reboot.
Dont worry WE will See highly advanced Combat suits in the Future ...
Honestly, The Government needs to develop "Tesla Coils" that can be used to transmit power wirelessly. Then get creative with their applications of said Tesla Coils. This would at least give a temporary solution until a more complete solution could be developed. But a Tesla Coil could allow for wireless charging even after a more complete solution is made.
Like a Dev Tac suit around a powered exoskeleton.
4:46 to skip the ad
I think there needs to be a Sandboxx/Perun crossover.
Sci fi armor has several functional issues
First , if someone gets hit and needs medical attention, its pain in the ass to get off.
Second, normal body armor, they simply replace the strike plate and patch the vest and call it a day , back in action. unless the vest and plates are too damaged
With sci fi, armor, back to point one
The armor has to be thick enough to withstand 12.7mm directly and repeatedly but not so heavy that movement is cumbersome
Iron man style armor not likely.
In the movie , Edge of tomorrow, that armor is very realistic and easily made with current technology ,the only problem is lack of ballistic protection from bullets and shrapnel
Full body armor will be mesh of ceramic with some metal
but not like the movies
Personally Garsarki would be a better option
“Very realistic and easily made”
Really? And what powers this beast? Batteries? Oh please.
Nuclear power? Dream on.
Only way these things would get enough power is if you have a three phase 220 volt cable attached to the Abrams tank following you around.
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Thats why I said Gasaraki
In Gasaraki, the first Generation Raiden only has 60 min operational time
Later in the series, the second generation Shinden based on lessons learned from Raiden operational time is 36 hours due to improved battery tech
With current tech
They would use the Telsa battery by at 1/50th size I say about 23-30 inches in length at and 1/2 to 1 inch thick
Just enough power ,radio, optics, sensors , computers and laser designator possible a short range radar
The basic hydraulics can handle recoil for weapons but no one is lifting cars anytime soon
It can be easily made but people will have to understand reality over the movies
Bro out here yapping while trying to catch his breath lmao
Love the Exo Squad call out.
I like the part where he continually skips Heinlein's Starship Troopers, (one of the first references to well flashes out powered assault armor in 1959 but Lensman got the first jab in in 1934 with a more vague description of the notion). Those are too old to make the current popular media reference lists I guess.
Fire power… Sea Power… Air Power… Space Power… all to support Grunt Power
Ndb may be the solution to the power need. Put several in series and some super capacitors and u would have a small portable generator. Just a matter of organizing enough to power it. Bad thing is it's rather expensive
Power generation and storage are the key issues. We would need either extremely high capacity battery technology or micro nuclear reactors. The latter being a far future technology.
the very second a scientist has a breakthru in energy storing tekk, EXOs will come to live. perhaps not in an all out Fallout76 fashion, but in a lighter version just for power-speed-endurence enhancing... Id buy one rn coz of my fkd up knee, i wanna run again...and snowboard
It would seem that the lore of many Mech franchises might hold a practical route to development for powered suits (and mechs). That being, the suits are FIRST developed for working functions, load lifting, artillery handling, and such over combat. As the work suits are better developed, Combat suits follow, taking those advancements, now codified as a baseline and made economically viable, so further development is not as costly.
They really don't need to work very hard coming up with "new novel shapes for armour to increase armour coverage while maintaining mobility" They can literally just look at medieval plate armour. It's like those scientists who spent millions on solar pannel research to discovering the best, most efficient and cost-effective way of assembling a solar panel, is a leaf. Or even the US army spent 1.5 billion figuring out how to protect the gaps between plates to reinvent the medieval arming doublet.
It is inevitable, but frightening because it puts so much power in the hands of governments and a few corporations who are the only ones who could ever afford it.
Asside from the tech hurdles, weight would be a significant problem in urban environments. 500ish lbs for the suit, 180ish for the person, and 80 or more for their regular gear. 760 lbs at minimum. I can see construction standards being insufficient to support 5 or 6 soldiers in powered armor moving in combat.
Yea, that list of requirements is insane lol. But, I do think there's some interesting bits here. I'm curious how far you could get with non-powered exoskeletons, as a basis. Something that could just be used in base to augment logistics and the like. We've seen some of those discussed in media even in recent years, but haven't heard much about them lately. Heck, even a low-powered system that could help carry weight and keep people cool in base could be quite useful as recharging would be less of a constraint. Or at an Amazon warehouse lol.
But yea... watching that video of a dude ignoring nonstop AK shots to the face? Not sure we're getting anywhere near that lol.
Why is Nobody mentioning Merchwarriors Elemental Armors here😉 These are great including a heavy MG, rocketlauncher, armor ripping claws, flamer and a sophisticated sensor and first aid suit. Oh and naturally jump jets😉
as good as all this sounds, the more you add, the more to maintain, much of which most likely can't be performed in the field. all the sensors are also great till some yahoo with an AK smashes a lens or breaks a cable. shrapnel hits one of your switches. i also noticed that not one single option provided Apple CarPlay or Android auto.
I think directly integrating it into a unit on unit basis is a bad idea. It needs to be a separate squad/unit that can operate independently from other units or get added to other groups when needed on a case by case basis.
11:14 Dag, they look a bit like the "Stillsuit" w
Sass and Lucky Penny would have never had to sacrifice themselves. Once they painted the target a SAM would have taken the target out.
If this happened it would be classified and the cover story would be a story of heroic passengers taking down the plane.
Nice Dejavu editing technique
Imagine a flight of Starships blazing through re-entry and a company of these popping out.