You might also check out Adore(1998), though my guess is(I could be wrong) that it'd be slightly less your thing. They get gothier, more acoustic, and yet more electronic...
@@smithfield731yeah wouldn't recommend to someone who isn't already fully invested in the SP catalog...but it's an important and great piece of their catalog that demonstrates the versatility of Billy/SP even more. And arguably the best his voice sounded in the studio
more like James and D'arcy: Billy we're having trouble coming up with guitars, could you humiliate us by passive-aggressively writing a billion parts and end up with one of our best songs in the process? Billy: Yes.
I’ve thought that on every reaction you guys have done. Keeping the groove while walking the fine line on copyright strikes is an art form you’ve mastered. Great job my dudes!
By far, imo, the greatest album ever made. Every song is a masterpiece. And the mixup is unreal. Sad songs, happy songs, angry songs, slow songs, heavy songs. This album has it all and blends so perfectly together in one epic listen.
Listening to this album in your late teens or early twenties is such a must. Everytime I put this album on it's like I'm that 18 year old kid again wearing flannels and doc martens. And I remember the people I shared those wonderful moments with
The Siamese Dream to end of Mellon Collie era was one of the great creative runs by any artist ever. The sheer amount of quality output from one guy in that period was absolutely indescribably insane.
Fascinating how often it happens with world class artists. We really do have a period in our lives where everything comes together cognitively and we are at our peak as creatives. Scary. how quickly these 'golden ages' come crashing down almost every time. It just goes bang, stops. Like a tap being shut off.
@@AidanLonergan-bz1cp The "Imperial Phase" as it's called. At least Billy was able to get there. The Pumpkins were absolutely huge for a time, maybe even the biggest. I understand that Billy has to try new things, but for me nothing he has done since Machina II has hit the mark.
I had just turned 15. I was in homeroom in high school and my "music friend" said "You need to listen to this". He played Bullets and Zero on his CASSETTE Walkman.... that's all i needed. The next week I was sick with the flu. My mom called me from work and said she was going to the mall after work and asked if I needed anything. I said "there's a new album from the Smashing Pumpkins id really like". A few hours went by, I'm laying on the couch sleeping. She comes in the front door and throws the double disc CD on my chest. "You didn't tell me it was going to be 30 dollars". She was mad.... i didn't stop listening to it for YEARS. One of many albums that molded who I am as a person that sees the world through a unique lens.
Gish is epic. It was my senior year in high school with Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Primus, Stone Temple Pilots. Man. So amazing.
41:30 Their guitarist at the time, James Iha, after leaving SP he became a DJ... so I'm sure that is his influence. Electronic rock was also big at that time, with bands like Garbage, Bjork, Cardigans, etc. That might also influenced them. Garbage's drummer (and also husband to the vocalist), Butch Vig, produced albums for Smashing Pumpkins. He was a big and successful producer for alternative bands, having also produced albums of Nirvana, Foo Fighter, Green Day, etc. he may also have influenced SP a bit on their electronic sound.
I hate agreeing with this, but you’re probably right lol. They’re both fantastic, but MCIS is definitely the one that resonated more with me as a teen.
I was in third grade when this came out. My dad bought it when it was released and we'd listen to it in the car on my way to school. The definition of nostalgia for me and to this day still my favorite album ever.
I recommend buying the CD or looking up the artwork. It originally came with two booklets: one with surreal art and one with lyrics. It adds to the overall experience! I got this album on Christmas, ‘95. At that point, the only single that was on the radio was Bullet. So, basically the entire album was new to me. And, I was blown away! It’s my favorite Pumpkins album and in my top five albums of all time. Over the years, the more I listen, the more impressed I become. It’s cool to see young people discovering the music now! Also, as the caller said, the band was so prolific during this period! There’s a box set with an additional 28 finished songs recorded during these sessions. And they released it just a year later.
Love love love love this album. As a native Chicagoan, I went to the opening concert for the tour of this album with my best friend and my older cousin. They did 2 back to back shows at the United Center, sold out, and it was my very first concert experience. A memory I'll never forget.
Now go listen to The Aeroplane Flies High collection. It contains all of the singles from this album and the b-sides that didn’t make the cut. They recorded an insane amount of tracks for Mellon Collie that just didn’t get used.
Watched the whole video! Yes, I have listened to this album in full in one sitting many many times. It was *the* album of my early teens. Talking about Nine Inch Nails, wait til you listen to The Fragile, their double album. I assume you will at some point. It's amazing.
The Smashing Pumpkins album that gets lost is "Pisces Iscariot" which was released in 1994 as a collection of B-sides and whatnot. It's great. Do not skip it.
Finally just got this album on deluxe vinyl edition today for a smoking deal that I've been patiently waiting for for YEARS. Then I come home to find this?! Hell yea. IMMERSION TIME... 🤘
This was a fun ride. The Pumpkins weren’t my favorite band growing up but this has always been my favorite album. The vibes Mellon Collie has and the feelings it can make you feel are just so different than anything else. Kind of took me to another land that’s real but only exists in fantasy. Also, just saw them last summer and they still sound amazing
If you loved '1979', listen to 'Perfect' - it's the "sister" song, and all the kids from the '1979' music video are in it, but older, obviously. it's just as great. x
I love how without the influence of the media and cultural zeitgeist (pun intended) bashing on Billy Corgan's singing like when this came out you guys say his voice is beautiful.
That’s the way to do it, go into media before anyone tells you what to think about it so you can just enjoy the experience and form your own opinions As soon as comparisons become the focus you lose the plot
Mellon Collie is a timeless piece of art. Nothing more, nothing less. I was 23 when it was released and it totally changed the way I digest rock music forever.
This may be silly…but I’ve always thought the final track to this beautiful album is a ‘farewell and goodnight’-like letter to the 90s in a lot of ways, both for the Pumpkins and perhaps a certain strand of music like this. It was coming out of the mid-90s, rock and grunge bands were slowing down a bit, and the zeitgeist of music was really moving on. The final few chords of the song make me quite emotional because it’s almost like, perhaps subconsciously, the Pumpkins knew this epoch of their era was coming to and end - much like the change going on in the world of music around them. When I hear that piano melody in the final few seconds, I hear a lot of the 90s slide away and sail out beyond the moon-lit horizon for me. Never able to be returned to. But forever immortalised in the stunning, chaotic, and mad beauty of this double-LP.
When I was 6-7 years old, I listened to this album all the way through many times. Combined with the artwork/design - it shaped some deep part of my personality. The wall of sound guitar tones immediately hit me on Siamese Dream when I was 4-5 and just continued through to Mellon Collie. In turn, Adore and Machina also have had a profound effect on me. I have still yet to find an artist capable of such wide swings musically (maybe Mike Patton?)- and I love everything from boom bap gritty hip hop to classical/soundtrack music. This is what taking music very seriously while being highly imaginative while being half insane sounds like. Those first 5 main albums are truly something specular and almost wholly unique in the grand canon of western music. Big ups to you guys for giving SP the fair shot and listen. I love seeing the younger generation explore musical time capsules. Question: Can you imagine someone making ANYTHING even remotely similar to this today and it being even a tenth as popular as it was in the 90's? There is some incredible music being made today, but what makes the charts has become very narrow in terms of musicality, innovation, and drama. Some full album listen suggestions: DJ Shadow - Entroducing Zeppelin - IV The Game - The Documentary Arcade Fire - The Suburbs Portishead- Dummy RJD2 - Deadringer Alvvays - Antisocialites Outkast - Aquemini Bjork - Homogenic Massive Attack - Mezzanine Phantogram - Voices Silversun Pickups - Neck of the Woods Gotye - Making Mirrors Stabbing Westward - Wither, Burn, Blister and Peel Joni Mitchell - Blue
Gish should 100% be the next SP album you check out, but I think Pisces Iscariot deserves a listen. It’s a compilation of B sides from Siamese Dream m, but it might as well be a studio album quality wise. It also has one of my fav SP songs, Hello Kitty Kat.
I'd also add in listening to The Aeroplane Flies High boxset too. The quality in songs is a bit more variable but there are some fan favourite songs on there that you wonder how they were only b-sides.
Yo, thanks for doing this one. This album got me through tough times. Its just beautiful, soulful, and unexpected from every angle. (Edit: I do recommend Machina, both I & II. So much criminally underappreciated beauty).
The Bends and this album both came out in Fall of 1995, so any similarities is strictly coincidental. And I doubt Billy was inspired by Pablo Honey, that album was mid and everyone had already written Radiohead off as a one hit wonder.
Classic album, great reaction. Don't know if anyone mentioned it but Chino from Deftones sited this album as a huge influence on him. He's specifically mentioned the song 'Bodies' and you can hear it. The riff, the cadence of the singing, the weird breakdown, etc. What's even cooler is that Chino has popped out on stage with the Pumpkins to sing that with them a few times and super recently he actually came out during a show and shared vocals on 'Jellybelly'. Cheers
helped me relive the most beautiful and sometimes sad moments of being a teenager when this album came out. ive long since lost those early feelings of my favourite band(only next to radiohead who would be 2nd) and you two helped bring a lot of it back if only for a moment! god bless you boys. if i ever get rich im coming back to you with a priceless gift.. keep this up, please!!!
While I love almost every song off of MCIS, I think Thru the Eyes of Ruby became a personal favorite because it is a blend of the dreamy, beautiful elements of the music with the scorching guitars.
By the way, back in 1997, James Iha (the other guitarist) made a solo album called Let it Come Down. You'd fucking love it. Super mellow vibe. Great, catchy songs. He's the one who sings the final tracks on each disk of this.
I bought this when it came out and still have it. 🥰 Be Strong Now is one of my faves. It definitely wasn't what I expected, but enjoyed experiencing Iha's style. Very mellow and sweet.
i'd have to say disc 1 is a masterpiece on its own, then you add disc 2. That run of songs on disc one from Tonight Tonight to Love is almost unmatched in alternative/heavy rock.
Just found you guys. Super rad videos and this is absolutely up there as top 3 bands when i was in my late teens. So many memories!! Keep the videos coming!! 💥🇿🇦
it's awesome how you picked up on the nostalgic sound of 1979. I have absolutely no idea how Billy wrote that feeling into a piece of music, but it just seems to connect with everyone. The music video captures it really well too.
The early 90's saw a massive resurgence of psycadelic culture. Gish (particularly) and Siamese Dream were born from that vibe. MCIS was an angsty departure from that sound, full of whimsy and melancholy. It's an exploration of a transitional period of both society and Billy.
It's cool seeing the album getting the same reaction that I had to it when I first heard it 20 odd years ago. Siamese dream is amazing and the more tight, focused, consistent in terms of theme and tone but Mellon collie is just a whole other level. The scope, the variety, the song writing and lyrics are all incredible. This was them at the very peak of their powers and sadly it was never this good again. I just wish I could go back and hear it again for the first time again. Also good on you for giving a lot of love for the more obscure album songs and not just focusing on the singles
Hi, new here in your channel, congratulations, incredible video, for an incredible album, for me, this is the best double album ever, not a bad song, it have everything, a masterpiece, with Siamese Dream, Gish and the amazing b sides collection Piesces Iscariot, SP were in the TOP, thank you so much, guys, to listen this album, and this music, now we can't hear nothing like this in mainstream music (with a few exceptions), so, let's see the other videos, cheers from Argentina!!!
The singles take me back to the end of my senior year of high school in earlier '95, right on through to my first college first semester in my dorm room in the fall when I got the CD(s) ❤
I was cracking up when he said: “that’s definitely a Mom’s voice” 🤣 Love seeing the youth being exposed to such great music and me getting to see them hear it and react. I’m loving this channel!
Super livestream guys!! I can recommend you a few albums for future livestreams. Everyone of them is a masterpiece. 1- Bush- sixteen stone 2- system of a down - toxicity 3- linkin park - meteora 4.-pod - satellite 5.- I prevail - lifelines 6. Silverchair - frogstrom 7. Papa roach - infest 8. Papa roach - getting away with murder 9. Papa roach - the connection 10. Falling up - crashings 11. Falling up - dawn escapes Keep rocking!!
This album wasn't that well received when it was released because it was such a departure from their past work. People weren't sure what to think of Billy delving into a slightly more electronic sound. This is my favorite album of all time. It's a true masterpiece. Mellon Collie isn't a story, it's a collection of poetry. I love so many of the songs on this album that this comment would turn into a true essay. I will say Bodies, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, By Starlight, and Galapogos are some of the stars of the album. I actually listened to my original cds so many times I literally wore them out. I would choose a disk, and put in on repeat while I slept. I agree with everything your guest said. I'm a 30 year Pumpkins fan (I got the heart logo tattooed on my back in 2001) and I can tell he definitely knows his Pumpkins material. I've seen the Pumpkins twice. I met Billy, James, and Jimmy in 2000 at an album signing. I traveled from Michigan to San Francisco in 2007 to attend the very first reunion show after a 7 year hiatus, and I met Billy there again. I'm traveling to Chicago next week for a concert, and I'm hoping to stop by Billy's tea shop while I'm there. He often does little acoustic sets at his tea house. Maybe I'll get lucky and see him while I'm there. 😂 Fun Fact: Billy is currently expecting his 3rd child. He started having children very late in life and his children are quite young.
Love MCIS, but I really wish some Aeroplane Flies High tracks made it on the album. Specifically, The Aeroplane Flies High, Mouths of Babes, Pennies, and Cherry.
Went to the Mellon Collie tour in '96, what a show! Not sure if they still perform this way, but there would always be like a 15-20 minute psychadelic guitar session not connected to any of their songs. Like Dave Matthews Band or Phish going into left field, except FAR from a jam band sound. Their opener was 'Where Boys Fear to Tread' (no Diddy), which is a perfect starting song with the buildup then drop.
I saw Smashing Pumpkins for my 13th birthday present when this album had just came out and they were touring to promote it. The show was 2 weeks before Thanksgiving and I remember Billy Corgan dedicating the song Muzzle to the Thanksgiving turkeys that would be eaten 2 weeks from that concert. Up until that moment in my life I never once contemplated the idea that the food I was eating was comprised of once living things. I never became a vegan or anything, but it had a lifelong change on the appreciation I had for my food. That's my random Smashing Pumpkins story. Also, Guano Apes were the opening act and put on a helluva show.
I grew up with this music. This album released when I was a Junior in high school, and I loved it SO MUCH. But also like you, I sometimes had feelings of being misplaced for my time. I listened to a lot of The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and 70s rock music, etc... and I felt like my generation, while having bright points of talent and passion, had lost something along the way, something genuine and good, the creeping feeling that things were getting worse. I would fantasize about being a teen in the late 60s and mid 70s haha. How you feel about your generation is probably a sign of a healthy, maturing mind; it shows you're pensive, reflective, not limiting your experience to what is just shoved in front of you, willing to expand beyond yourself, regardless of peer judgement. If you enjoy Smashing Pumpkins music of this era, you will most definitely want to react to their Pisces Iscariot album (1994), which the band considered B-sides and outtakes, but an album that delighted fans and confounded critiques as to why a B-sides album would feature so many bangers that other rock bands would never be able to accomplish on a regular LP release.
Ive heard casual fans say something like "MCIS has about one full album of amazing songs and thr rest is filler." I wholeheartedly disagree. Theres so much great stuff in here. I have a love an appreciation for every track. They all serve a purpose.
True, but if it was a normal sized album of like 1. Tonight, Tonight 2. Jellybelly 3. Zero 4. Here Is No Why 5. Bullet With Butterfly Wings 6. Muzzle 7. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 8. Bodies 9. 1979 10. Thru the Eyes of Ruby Or something... it would be one of the best ever territory
if you want all 10s yeah..but still leaving out a few other 10s and several other 8-9s.. By Starlight, Thirty Three, In the Arms of Sleep, To Forgive, Farewell and Goodnight, etc
The fact that songs like Set the Ray to Jerry, The Aeroplane Flies High, God, Pennies, Ugly, etc. didn't even make the album proves that none of the songs are filler. They could easily have made it a 3 disc album without any drop in song quality.
@@AidanLonergan-bz1cp Honestly, the variety and chaotic nature MCIS is what makes it special for me. It wouldn't be the some if was just a single album. I also think that 16 of the 28 songs are 10/10, and even the weakest tracks are still 8/10 imo.
porcelina is his cat that he cant wait to see because its a release from all he was doing at the time of writing the song. Maybe the best song about a cat ever written
Interestingly, the track order on the vinyl release was very different from the CD. It was split into 4 chapters and takes the listener on a much more linear journey, grouping harder and softer tracks together. It makes more sense in the context of the album as a whole.
I'm discovering your channel (thanks RUclips algorithm) so my comment is based on a 30 minutes experience only, but man : It's *SO* refreshing to finally watch a reaction video where the listener(s) actually acknowledges it when they know the song ! I'm so tired of those millions of videos where some random dude pretends he has never heard "Stairway to Heaven" or "Highway to hell" and acts in awe. I was 15 when MCIS was released (yeah, fuck, I'm old :D) so it seems impossible for anyone from my generation to not know this record. But for younger folks like you ? Totally understandable. Glad to see good music never dies, though.
Billy still had hair when he recorded and released this album. His first shaved head appearance was on Saturday Night Live after this album was released. He shaved his head because he was losing his hair.
We should definitely go back and give GISH a listen…
You might also check out Adore(1998), though my guess is(I could be wrong) that it'd be slightly less your thing. They get gothier, more acoustic, and yet more electronic...
@@smithfield731yeah wouldn't recommend to someone who isn't already fully invested in the SP catalog...but it's an important and great piece of their catalog that demonstrates the versatility of Billy/SP even more. And arguably the best his voice sounded in the studio
when you love gish and siamese dream you can only love pisces iscariot
Adore
Gish and Pisces Iscariot are your next stops. Pisces is a Compilation album, but it feels like another studio album
Billy, how many guitars do you want on this track?
Billy: Yes.
All of them
more like
James and D'arcy: Billy we're having trouble coming up with guitars, could you humiliate us by passive-aggressively writing a billion parts and end up with one of our best songs in the process?
Billy: Yes.
So spot on
I just wanna give props on the editing. Keeping the groove steady from cut to cut, clear thought on how to keep it fluid.
I’ve thought that on every reaction you guys have done. Keeping the groove while walking the fine line on copyright strikes is an art form you’ve mastered. Great job my dudes!
By far, imo, the greatest album ever made. Every song is a masterpiece. And the mixup is unreal. Sad songs, happy songs, angry songs, slow songs, heavy songs. This album has it all and blends so perfectly together in one epic listen.
It’s an absolute masterpiece. No one song can live without the others. An astonishing piece of work, buried deep in my heart forever.
Listening to this album in your late teens or early twenties is such a must. Everytime I put this album on it's like I'm that 18 year old kid again wearing flannels and doc martens. And I remember the people I shared those wonderful moments with
The Siamese Dream to end of Mellon Collie era was one of the great creative runs by any artist ever.
The sheer amount of quality output from one guy in that period was absolutely indescribably insane.
Fascinating how often it happens with world class artists. We really do have a period in our lives where everything comes together cognitively and we are at our peak as creatives. Scary. how quickly these 'golden ages' come crashing down almost every time. It just goes bang, stops. Like a tap being shut off.
Don’t discount Adore. It took a long time for people to come around on it but it’s aged very well. It’s top-tier songwriting.
@@AidanLonergan-bz1cpThat's why it's amazing to me when artists/bands peak more than once or for longer than a decade. Like RHCP for example.
@@AidanLonergan-bz1cp The "Imperial Phase" as it's called. At least Billy was able to get there. The Pumpkins were absolutely huge for a time, maybe even the biggest. I understand that Billy has to try new things, but for me nothing he has done since Machina II has hit the mark.
@@akira_kei_ Thanks, I knew there was a term for it! Wikipedia rabbit hole time
My favorite double album and my favorite pumpkins album. This might be my answer to only getting one album to bring to a deserted island question
I had just turned 15. I was in homeroom in high school and my "music friend" said "You need to listen to this". He played Bullets and Zero on his CASSETTE Walkman.... that's all i needed. The next week I was sick with the flu. My mom called me from work and said she was going to the mall after work and asked if I needed anything. I said "there's a new album from the Smashing Pumpkins id really like". A few hours went by, I'm laying on the couch sleeping. She comes in the front door and throws the double disc CD on my chest. "You didn't tell me it was going to be 30 dollars". She was mad.... i didn't stop listening to it for YEARS. One of many albums that molded who I am as a person that sees the world through a unique lens.
Awesome mother though, still bought it!
Thanks, Ma!
Gish is epic. It was my senior year in high school with Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Primus, Stone Temple Pilots. Man. So amazing.
We were so lucky.
Throw in some Silverchair 😃
@@finchfan0that was a tad later tho I think
@@finchfan0 Silver chair is fucking ass
Well done lads. I watched the whole thing and weirdly felt I was back at 13 years old hearing this for the first time again. Tears in my eyes
was literally rewatching your siamese dream video hoping you would react to mellon collie. i guess its my lucky day.
Oh and a great drummer!
Jimmy's drumming was just as unique as Billy's voice. One of the greatest drummers ever!
Chamberlain is such a power house drummer
I'm so happy you guys loved Galapagos. It's so nostalgic, desperate and hopeful all at once. Definitely one of my favourites.
41:30 Their guitarist at the time, James Iha, after leaving SP he became a DJ... so I'm sure that is his influence.
Electronic rock was also big at that time, with bands like Garbage, Bjork, Cardigans, etc. That might also influenced them.
Garbage's drummer (and also husband to the vocalist), Butch Vig, produced albums for Smashing Pumpkins. He was a big and successful producer for alternative bands, having also produced albums of Nirvana, Foo Fighter, Green Day, etc. he may also have influenced SP a bit on their electronic sound.
One of my favorite albums of all time. I listen to it cover to cover while I go to sleep often.
Siamese Dream is probably the more coherent consistent tighter album but MCIS is the wilder experience.
They're gonna love it. Adore is my favorite SP album but everything up through Machina is wonderful.
MCIS sums up every possible emotion nicely...it's an expansive project that still mesmerizes me to this day. A special special time
Yes!!!!!
I hate agreeing with this, but you’re probably right lol. They’re both fantastic, but MCIS is definitely the one that resonated more with me as a teen.
I agree, start to finish..more polished
I was in third grade when this came out. My dad bought it when it was released and we'd listen to it in the car on my way to school. The definition of nostalgia for me and to this day still my favorite album ever.
One of the most life changing albums for me
I recommend buying the CD or looking up the artwork. It originally came with two booklets: one with surreal art and one with lyrics. It adds to the overall experience!
I got this album on Christmas, ‘95. At that point, the only single that was on the radio was Bullet. So, basically the entire album was new to me. And, I was blown away! It’s my favorite Pumpkins album and in my top five albums of all time. Over the years, the more I listen, the more impressed I become. It’s cool to see young people discovering the music now!
Also, as the caller said, the band was so prolific during this period! There’s a box set with an additional 28 finished songs recorded during these sessions. And they released it just a year later.
A MASTERPIECE!! ONE OF MY TOP 5 ALBUMS OF ALL TIMES!!!
Love love love love this album. As a native Chicagoan, I went to the opening concert for the tour of this album with my best friend and my older cousin. They did 2 back to back shows at the United Center, sold out, and it was my very first concert experience. A memory I'll never forget.
Now go listen to The Aeroplane Flies High collection. It contains all of the singles from this album and the b-sides that didn’t make the cut. They recorded an insane amount of tracks for Mellon Collie that just didn’t get used.
Absolutely. 10/10
Watched the whole video! Yes, I have listened to this album in full in one sitting many many times. It was *the* album of my early teens. Talking about Nine Inch Nails, wait til you listen to The Fragile, their double album. I assume you will at some point. It's amazing.
The Smashing Pumpkins album that gets lost is "Pisces Iscariot" which was released in 1994 as a collection of B-sides and whatnot. It's great. Do not skip it.
This is by far my favorite album of all time
In Farewell and Goodnight, _every_ band member sang. Even the drummer, Jimmy Chamberlin.
Butch Vig produced both Gish and Nevermind. Super cool fact the same snare drum was used on both albums!!!!
Finally just got this album on deluxe vinyl edition today for a smoking deal that I've been patiently waiting for for YEARS. Then I come home to find this?! Hell yea. IMMERSION TIME... 🤘
This was a fun ride. The Pumpkins weren’t my favorite band growing up but this has always been my favorite album. The vibes Mellon Collie has and the feelings it can make you feel are just so different than anything else. Kind of took me to another land that’s real but only exists in fantasy. Also, just saw them last summer and they still sound amazing
If you loved '1979', listen to 'Perfect' - it's the "sister" song, and all the kids from the '1979' music video are in it, but older, obviously. it's just as great. x
I love the way you pronounce Galapagos 😂
Brilliant reaction fellas
I love how without the influence of the media and cultural zeitgeist (pun intended) bashing on Billy Corgan's singing like when this came out you guys say his voice is beautiful.
That’s the way to do it, go into media before anyone tells you what to think about it so you can just enjoy the experience and form your own opinions
As soon as comparisons become the focus you lose the plot
Y'all need to watch XYU at Rockpalast 1996. It's basically witnessing a mental breakdown on stage.
Thank you for doing this. This is my favorite alt rock album ever made
Mellon Collie is a timeless piece of art. Nothing more, nothing less. I was 23 when it was released and it totally changed the way I digest rock music forever.
This may be silly…but I’ve always thought the final track to this beautiful album is a ‘farewell and goodnight’-like letter to the 90s in a lot of ways, both for the Pumpkins and perhaps a certain strand of music like this. It was coming out of the mid-90s, rock and grunge bands were slowing down a bit, and the zeitgeist of music was really moving on. The final few chords of the song make me quite emotional because it’s almost like, perhaps subconsciously, the Pumpkins knew this epoch of their era was coming to and end - much like the change going on in the world of music around them. When I hear that piano melody in the final few seconds, I hear a lot of the 90s slide away and sail out beyond the moon-lit horizon for me. Never able to be returned to. But forever immortalised in the stunning, chaotic, and mad beauty of this double-LP.
You will never understand how much I’ve been anticipating this video
When I was 6-7 years old, I listened to this album all the way through many times. Combined with the artwork/design - it shaped some deep part of my personality. The wall of sound guitar tones immediately hit me on Siamese Dream when I was 4-5 and just continued through to Mellon Collie. In turn, Adore and Machina also have had a profound effect on me. I have still yet to find an artist capable of such wide swings musically (maybe Mike Patton?)- and I love everything from boom bap gritty hip hop to classical/soundtrack music.
This is what taking music very seriously while being highly imaginative while being half insane sounds like. Those first 5 main albums are truly something specular and almost wholly unique in the grand canon of western music.
Big ups to you guys for giving SP the fair shot and listen. I love seeing the younger generation explore musical time capsules.
Question: Can you imagine someone making ANYTHING even remotely similar to this today and it being even a tenth as popular as it was in the 90's?
There is some incredible music being made today, but what makes the charts has become very narrow in terms of musicality, innovation, and drama.
Some full album listen suggestions:
DJ Shadow - Entroducing
Zeppelin - IV
The Game - The Documentary
Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
Portishead- Dummy
RJD2 - Deadringer
Alvvays - Antisocialites
Outkast - Aquemini
Bjork - Homogenic
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Phantogram - Voices
Silversun Pickups - Neck of the Woods
Gotye - Making Mirrors
Stabbing Westward - Wither, Burn, Blister and Peel
Joni Mitchell - Blue
Have you heard Deathconsciousness by have a Nice Life? I feel like you'd enjoy that one.
@@Trim_Brakes_06 No, but I'll check it out! Thanks for the heads up.
You were raised right 🥰
@@scapito Awe - all thanks go to my mom!
Gish should 100% be the next SP album you check out, but I think Pisces Iscariot deserves a listen. It’s a compilation of B sides from Siamese Dream m, but it might as well be a studio album quality wise. It also has one of my fav SP songs, Hello Kitty Kat.
Tis my fave album 🫡 Starla made me pick up guitar too. Had absolutely no choice lol
I fucking love "Rhinoceros."
I'd also add in listening to The Aeroplane Flies High boxset too. The quality in songs is a bit more variable but there are some fan favourite songs on there that you wonder how they were only b-sides.
Yo, thanks for doing this one. This album got me through tough times. Its just beautiful, soulful, and unexpected from every angle. (Edit: I do recommend Machina, both I & II. So much criminally underappreciated beauty).
Worth noting that this was released 2 years *before* OK Computer was
And 10x better, don’t care what anybody says
@@toadworks7 I LOVE mellon collie, but cmon man, it's not better than OKC
@@ThomasMeeson It is.
@@moz7777I would also have to disagree okc is just more groundbreaking im a huge fan of both bands tho
The Bends and this album both came out in Fall of 1995, so any similarities is strictly coincidental. And I doubt Billy was inspired by Pablo Honey, that album was mid and everyone had already written Radiohead off as a one hit wonder.
I can say you guys are making some great choices and have great taste..big up for your content!
Best guitar sound on the planet for me.
Classic album, great reaction. Don't know if anyone mentioned it but Chino from Deftones sited this album as a huge influence on him. He's specifically mentioned the song 'Bodies' and you can hear it. The riff, the cadence of the singing, the weird breakdown, etc. What's even cooler is that Chino has popped out on stage with the Pumpkins to sing that with them a few times and super recently he actually came out during a show and shared vocals on 'Jellybelly'. Cheers
Incredible album, meant so much to me growing up - what a journey
Bullet with Butterfly Wings and 1979 get all the fanfare, but there’s so many beautiful tracks on this opus
I love how you guys even got the classic "oh, I didn't know the name of the 'world is a vampire' song is bullet with butterfly wings" 😅
@@RyanEglitis no one knew the name of that song lol
1979 takes me back the second I hear it. This album was everywhere when it came out
helped me relive the most beautiful and sometimes sad moments of being a teenager when this album came out. ive long since lost those early feelings of my favourite band(only next to radiohead who would be 2nd) and you two helped bring a lot of it back if only for a moment! god bless you boys. if i ever get rich im coming back to you with a priceless gift.. keep this up, please!!!
While I love almost every song off of MCIS, I think Thru the Eyes of Ruby became a personal favorite because it is a blend of the dreamy, beautiful elements of the music with the scorching guitars.
Watch this … unreal live performance of this song in their prime ruclips.net/video/avr_AB6xEbc/видео.htmlsi=-mhlM19dFFC4ULVm
By the way, back in 1997, James Iha (the other guitarist) made a solo album called Let it Come Down. You'd fucking love it. Super mellow vibe. Great, catchy songs. He's the one who sings the final tracks on each disk of this.
Where can I find this? Not on Spotify… thanks!
@alexc1027 last time I listened to it, it was on RUclips. Before that, I had the cd.
I bought this when it came out and still have it. 🥰 Be Strong Now is one of my faves. It definitely wasn't what I expected, but enjoyed experiencing Iha's style. Very mellow and sweet.
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i'd have to say disc 1 is a masterpiece on its own, then you add disc 2. That run of songs on disc one from Tonight Tonight to Love is almost unmatched in alternative/heavy rock.
I feel they will be retconned the best band of the 90's if the world catches on.
Just found you guys. Super rad videos and this is absolutely up there as top 3 bands when i was in my late teens. So many memories!! Keep the videos coming!! 💥🇿🇦
Pisces Iscariot is a great rarities and b-sides album. In my opinion the pumpkins could do no wrong on their first 3 albums. Highly recommend.
Chamberlains drumming still sounds other worldly.
it's awesome how you picked up on the nostalgic sound of 1979. I have absolutely no idea how Billy wrote that feeling into a piece of music, but it just seems to connect with everyone. The music video captures it really well too.
The early 90's saw a massive resurgence of psycadelic culture. Gish (particularly) and Siamese Dream were born from that vibe. MCIS was an angsty departure from that sound, full of whimsy and melancholy. It's an exploration of a transitional period of both society and Billy.
This has some random songs, but it has plenty of bangers. Thru the Eyes of the Ruby is probably my favorite.
Super. Thanks, guys for bringing this back. My life album. This is a masterpiece. And look 28 tracks. wow Cheers from Portugal
Back in the 90s, my roommate and I would put this on at least three times a week while we were playing videogames.
Awesome reaction lads, cool how you were drawn to the deep cuts too! Here Is No Why and Bodies are my jams.
"Youth is wasted on the young" - Don't ever forget that one fellas!
I’ve listened to this album hundreds of times. I bought it the day it released.
Great review of Here Is No Why! One of my favs on that album!
Absolutely. The best SP fan group is called The Sad Machines after that song.
It's cool seeing the album getting the same reaction that I had to it when I first heard it 20 odd years ago. Siamese dream is amazing and the more tight, focused, consistent in terms of theme and tone but Mellon collie is just a whole other level. The scope, the variety, the song writing and lyrics are all incredible. This was them at the very peak of their powers and sadly it was never this good again. I just wish I could go back and hear it again for the first time again. Also good on you for giving a lot of love for the more obscure album songs and not just focusing on the singles
"We Only Come Out at Night, this is definitely a hard one, you can tell" 😅 ah, boys you're doing God's work. Keep rockin' 🤘🤘
Hi, new here in your channel, congratulations, incredible video, for an incredible album, for me, this is the best double album ever, not a bad song, it have everything, a masterpiece, with Siamese Dream, Gish and the amazing b sides collection Piesces Iscariot, SP were in the TOP, thank you so much, guys, to listen this album, and this music, now we can't hear nothing like this in mainstream music (with a few exceptions), so, let's see the other videos, cheers from Argentina!!!
This is my favorite album
The singles take me back to the end of my senior year of high school in earlier '95, right on through to my first college first semester in my dorm room in the fall when I got the CD(s) ❤
7 time Grammy nominated album!
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO MY FAVORITE ALBUM EVER
best double album ever made
That honour goes to The Fragile.
@@jameswallace2951 lol who the hell is that?
You guys are taking on a double album live. That's ballsy.
I'm 44 boys. I love your videos and you keep listening to shit I grew up with that I still love today. Keep the channel going. P.s. I love nirvana
I was cracking up when he said: “that’s definitely a Mom’s voice” 🤣
Love seeing the youth being exposed to such great music and me getting to see them hear it and react. I’m loving this channel!
Super livestream guys!! I can recommend you a few albums for future livestreams. Everyone of them is a masterpiece.
1- Bush- sixteen stone
2- system of a down - toxicity
3- linkin park - meteora
4.-pod - satellite
5.- I prevail - lifelines
6. Silverchair - frogstrom
7. Papa roach - infest
8. Papa roach - getting away with murder
9. Papa roach - the connection
10. Falling up - crashings
11. Falling up - dawn escapes
Keep rocking!!
Absolute epic masterpiece, what a ride
New music comes and goes, but the one thing that remains constant is...the world is a vampire 🤘
I’ve been waiting for this
Zero is that song that 30 years later i still remember the lyrics...
awesome guys.. Siamese Dream and MCIS changed my life
This album wasn't that well received when it was released because it was such a departure from their past work. People weren't sure what to think of Billy delving into a slightly more electronic sound. This is my favorite album of all time. It's a true masterpiece. Mellon Collie isn't a story, it's a collection of poetry. I love so many of the songs on this album that this comment would turn into a true essay. I will say Bodies, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, By Starlight, and Galapogos are some of the stars of the album. I actually listened to my original cds so many times I literally wore them out. I would choose a disk, and put in on repeat while I slept.
I agree with everything your guest said. I'm a 30 year Pumpkins fan (I got the heart logo tattooed on my back in 2001) and I can tell he definitely knows his Pumpkins material. I've seen the Pumpkins twice. I met Billy, James, and Jimmy in 2000 at an album signing. I traveled from Michigan to San Francisco in 2007 to attend the very first reunion show after a 7 year hiatus, and I met Billy there again. I'm traveling to Chicago next week for a concert, and I'm hoping to stop by Billy's tea shop while I'm there. He often does little acoustic sets at his tea house. Maybe I'll get lucky and see him while I'm there. 😂
Fun Fact: Billy is currently expecting his 3rd child. He started having children very late in life and his children are quite young.
Love MCIS, but I really wish some Aeroplane Flies High tracks made it on the album. Specifically, The Aeroplane Flies High, Mouths of Babes, Pennies, and Cherry.
@@finchfan0 "God"
Pennies and cherry are two of the most underrated pumpkins tracks ever
Set The Ray to Jerry
The Boy, more James appreciation
@@mmmtspSet the Ray to Jerry is probably the best B side I've ever heard of any band ever. It is absolutely phenomenal.
Went to the Mellon Collie tour in '96, what a show! Not sure if they still perform this way, but there would always be like a 15-20 minute psychadelic guitar session not connected to any of their songs. Like Dave Matthews Band or Phish going into left field, except FAR from a jam band sound.
Their opener was 'Where Boys Fear to Tread' (no Diddy), which is a perfect starting song with the buildup then drop.
The women singing is D'Arcy, the bassist. They all sing and the last music always makes me cry.
They were really hip, too, to sample the rocket launcher sound effect from the 1993 Doom on "Where Boys Fear to Tread"!
I saw Smashing Pumpkins for my 13th birthday present when this album had just came out and they were touring to promote it. The show was 2 weeks before Thanksgiving and I remember Billy Corgan dedicating the song Muzzle to the Thanksgiving turkeys that would be eaten 2 weeks from that concert. Up until that moment in my life I never once contemplated the idea that the food I was eating was comprised of once living things. I never became a vegan or anything, but it had a lifelong change on the appreciation I had for my food. That's my random Smashing Pumpkins story.
Also, Guano Apes were the opening act and put on a helluva show.
Where Boys Fear To Tread is like Sonic Youth meets Alice In Chains is what I wrote in a review for this album in high-school 😂
Imagine hearing 1979 for the first time... again. This is why i watch videos like this. Vicariously relive that experience through someone else.
I grew up with this music. This album released when I was a Junior in high school, and I loved it SO MUCH. But also like you, I sometimes had feelings of being misplaced for my time. I listened to a lot of The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and 70s rock music, etc... and I felt like my generation, while having bright points of talent and passion, had lost something along the way, something genuine and good, the creeping feeling that things were getting worse. I would fantasize about being a teen in the late 60s and mid 70s haha. How you feel about your generation is probably a sign of a healthy, maturing mind; it shows you're pensive, reflective, not limiting your experience to what is just shoved in front of you, willing to expand beyond yourself, regardless of peer judgement. If you enjoy Smashing Pumpkins music of this era, you will most definitely want to react to their Pisces Iscariot album (1994), which the band considered B-sides and outtakes, but an album that delighted fans and confounded critiques as to why a B-sides album would feature so many bangers that other rock bands would never be able to accomplish on a regular LP release.
Ive heard casual fans say something like "MCIS has about one full album of amazing songs and thr rest is filler."
I wholeheartedly disagree. Theres so much great stuff in here. I have a love an appreciation for every track. They all serve a purpose.
True, but if it was a normal sized album of like
1. Tonight, Tonight
2. Jellybelly
3. Zero
4. Here Is No Why
5. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
6. Muzzle
7. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
8. Bodies
9. 1979
10. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Or something... it would be one of the best ever territory
if you want all 10s yeah..but still leaving out a few other 10s and several other 8-9s.. By Starlight, Thirty Three, In the Arms of Sleep, To Forgive, Farewell and Goodnight, etc
@@MrSteve88 There's a few you've mentioned that I really like, it's a great album regardless
The fact that songs like Set the Ray to Jerry, The Aeroplane Flies High, God, Pennies, Ugly, etc. didn't even make the album proves that none of the songs are filler. They could easily have made it a 3 disc album without any drop in song quality.
@@AidanLonergan-bz1cp Honestly, the variety and chaotic nature MCIS is what makes it special for me. It wouldn't be the some if was just a single album. I also think that 16 of the 28 songs are 10/10, and even the weakest tracks are still 8/10 imo.
porcelina is his cat that he cant wait to see because its a release from all he was doing at the time of writing the song. Maybe the best song about a cat ever written
Guys luv your enthusiasm SP is cool never got into them like I did AIC, but everyone has to start somewhere keep up the awsome reactions💌🇨🇦🤘
"Pork(?)elina of the Vast Oceans" 😂
Interestingly, the track order on the vinyl release was very different from the CD. It was split into 4 chapters and takes the listener on a much more linear journey, grouping harder and softer tracks together. It makes more sense in the context of the album as a whole.
"It's like getting a pizza from McDonald's" is my new favorite quote!
You're probably not old enough to remember, but in the 1980s McDonald's did have McPizza on their menu for a limited time.
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You guys should visit Canada 😅
Thank you i'm a big fan of the group and it is one of my favorites albums if not my favourite
I'm discovering your channel (thanks RUclips algorithm) so my comment is based on a 30 minutes experience only, but man : It's *SO* refreshing to finally watch a reaction video where the listener(s) actually acknowledges it when they know the song ! I'm so tired of those millions of videos where some random dude pretends he has never heard "Stairway to Heaven" or "Highway to hell" and acts in awe.
I was 15 when MCIS was released (yeah, fuck, I'm old :D) so it seems impossible for anyone from my generation to not know this record. But for younger folks like you ? Totally understandable. Glad to see good music never dies, though.
Billy still had hair when he recorded and released this album. His first shaved head appearance was on Saturday Night Live after this album was released. He shaved his head because he was losing his hair.