Let me know your opinions on the airless basketballs and types of filament! I most likley wont make basketball another video as all the filament is expensive and they take forever to print but I would love someone else to expand on it and hopefully come up with better options. Thanks for watching!
I think it's hard to get hold of in the US. FormFortura FlexiFil is TPC I believe. If you find my model of the ball on Printables or Makerworld I've uploaded a gif of it bouncing there
Flashforge Flexable PLA was the best option to my knowledge/ testing. It has been in and out of stock over the last week so if you're interested use this affiliate link or check it out on amazon. amzn.to/3VwCmPg
PEBA is the filament that you need to make this actually work. It isn't super difficult to print, just be warned, it isn't exactly cheap. You're also printing the wrong model, the correct model had an internal lattice which I'd connected to the external ball so it's almost a ball inside a ball but that allows it to behave like a composite which I MUCH thicker effective wall thickness.
I 3D printed that airless basketball out of PA12, but it was way too hard and it broke. I've done a lot of research and the best filament I could find was the TPU CF from Extrudr, with a hardness of 58D. It's somewhere between normal TPU and PLA Flex. This filament probably bounces perfectly and the carbon fibers make it more durable. I think it's worth a try.
@@rickyneeter69 sorry but Ihave some problems with my 3D printer and as a student I can't afford the TPU cf just for one try. Maybe someone else wanna try it.
The ball needs a hard interior made of a strong a durable material (PaCf-6 maybe) and then needs a softer flexible exterior like tpu. The science is too much to explain but it will allow the harder material to flex more without breaking. This is the same concept that's used in fiber optic cable wherein the core is glass (yes hard brittle glass) but has a flexible polyacrylate sheath or something similar which takes strain off the glass and allows it to be flexible.
@@sabotage3d my best guess would be a multi material print system like the Bambu AMS. Unfortunately I not all that skilled in modeling nor do I have an AMS. But it would essentially just be making the infill solid and of a different material.
It'd be worth looking at the actual airless prototype...it appears to have quite a bit of internal structure that gives it a similar collapse profile to an air filled ball (i.e. it gets harder to compress the more you compress it). I'm interested to see how close you can get! Good luck, and thanks for the entertainment. :)
using flash forge flexible pla filament I have had best results just using a pretty standard pla profile and just running the speeds and temp a little lower.
Hey there! This video on 3D printing is awesome! It got me thinking about a wild idea: what if we could print objects layer by layer, but from the inside out? Imagine a 3D printer on steroids, with a spinning mold and robotic arms depositing materials. We could create super intricate mechanisms or even build entire structures floor by floor with spray concrete. This "layered construction" approach could be a game-changer for fabrication! #layeredprinting #futureofconstruction
Which one has better bounce between flashforge fpla and ataraxia fpla? I watched the video, but I'm not good at English, so I'm having trouble understanding it, so I'm leaving a comment.
A 5% or something gyroid infill with reduced wall thickness on infill might do it, or that other new 3d honey comb infill I can't remember the name off. but with walls like half inch to an inch apart inside might take up that extra load.
ASA with actual layer adhesion will be perfect for this. You need an 80C chamber and LOTS of cooling to print it with properly. Regular printers are not going to cut it. You need a Voron or something with parts that can take 80C and with a lot of insulation. Proper nylon would be ideal but it's difficult to print with fdm. Even in a 100C chamber it will shrink and fuck with you.
@@zakparamir755 No, flexible filaments won't bounce. It needs to be fairly stiff but with impact strength. ASA or ABS but printed properly in a very hot chamber will do the trick.
I think it would be too dense and end up cracking. The flexible pla seems to be best. I also saw others using PEB? I think it was and that seemed to work too.
hey mam. first time i see your videos keep it up the good job. i can tell you why all of the balls you print fail. the reason is way simpler than just the filament. the original wilson ball was a second smaller ball inside who touch the outside(like a centimeter from the exterior) this gives the ball the stability to bounce like spring.
I am right now using PA6 and have pa6-cf coming this week. So far it seems really promising. Polypropylene could also be a decent option too but right now I am testing a range of nylons to see what I can discover. The Wilson ball is a nylon blend so hoping that its workable. I'm not doing it for money myself, I run a business that helps companies develop prototypes and this is a great opportunity for me to demonstrate on a project that we know the end goal is possible, as well as showcase FDM technology even though it's not the right choice for this project really
You think that with the filaments that are on the market, you will make a ball (it costs 2.5K). Well, what are you kidding, you need to develop special filaments, make them, test them, and you know all this just to fill up space on RUclips, but thanks for making me laugh
Let me know your opinions on the airless basketballs and types of filament! I most likley wont make basketball another video as all the filament is expensive and they take forever to print but I would love someone else to expand on it and hopefully come up with better options. Thanks for watching!
What about 2-material print? With like inner "core" (eg flexible PLA) and a "shell" (TPU?) fused to it? Totally doable with AMS or MMU
TPC is the best filament I've found. It bounces really well and holds up for a long time.
I’ll look into that! Thanks for watching
I think it's hard to get hold of in the US. FormFortura FlexiFil is TPC I believe. If you find my model of the ball on Printables or Makerworld I've uploaded a gif of it bouncing there
@@TwoMooseDesign no such thing as we can't make the airless basketball. thats quitter talk
Flashforge Flexable PLA was the best option to my knowledge/ testing. It has been in and out of stock over the last week so if you're interested use this affiliate link or check it out on amazon. amzn.to/3VwCmPg
PEBA is the filament that you need to make this actually work. It isn't super difficult to print, just be warned, it isn't exactly cheap. You're also printing the wrong model, the correct model had an internal lattice which I'd connected to the external ball so it's almost a ball inside a ball but that allows it to behave like a composite which I MUCH thicker effective wall thickness.
@@hot_wheelzI’ll check that out!
I 3D printed that airless basketball out of PA12, but it was way too hard and it broke. I've done a lot of research and the best filament I could find was the TPU CF from Extrudr, with a hardness of 58D. It's somewhere between normal TPU and PLA Flex. This filament probably bounces perfectly and the carbon fibers make it more durable. I think it's worth a try.
Interesting! Thanks for the input. 👊🏼👊🏼
Best filament for the Airless Basketball I’ve seen was with PP. Immediately ordered some and looking forward to printing this weekend!
Any update?
Any update?
@@rickyneeter69 sorry but Ihave some problems with my 3D printer and as a student I can't afford the TPU cf just for one try. Maybe someone else wanna try it.
The ball needs a hard interior made of a strong a durable material (PaCf-6 maybe) and then needs a softer flexible exterior like tpu. The science is too much to explain but it will allow the harder material to flex more without breaking. This is the same concept that's used in fiber optic cable wherein the core is glass (yes hard brittle glass) but has a flexible polyacrylate sheath or something similar which takes strain off the glass and allows it to be flexible.
How do you print that?
@@sabotage3d my best guess would be a multi material print system like the Bambu AMS. Unfortunately I not all that skilled in modeling nor do I have an AMS. But it would essentially just be making the infill solid and of a different material.
@@icemaster127 AMS doesn't support soft materials, they also won't bond well together.
I would’ve never thought about trying this. Interesting experiment
Thanks for watching! It was pretty fun, and a little stressful 😆 I learned a ton making these!
It'd be worth looking at the actual airless prototype...it appears to have quite a bit of internal structure that gives it a similar collapse profile to an air filled ball (i.e. it gets harder to compress the more you compress it). I'm interested to see how close you can get! Good luck, and thanks for the entertainment. :)
I lol'd with she tried to dribble the 2nd ball
same lol
using flash forge flexible pla filament I have had best results just using a pretty standard pla profile and just running the speeds and temp a little lower.
Interesting, I’ll play around with that thanks!
Thank you for the video. It will really help if I try to print one.
Hey there! This video on 3D printing is awesome! It got me thinking about a wild idea: what if we could print objects layer by layer, but from the inside out? Imagine a 3D printer on steroids, with a spinning mold and robotic arms depositing materials. We could create super intricate mechanisms or even build entire structures floor by floor with spray concrete. This "layered construction" approach could be a game-changer for fabrication! #layeredprinting #futureofconstruction
That would be amazing!
@@TwoMooseDesign build a object from inside out layer by layer with spinning vat.
Could structural changes help? Hex design towards the center like a 3d lattice
I need the settings used for flash forge flex PLA from you please. Subscribed.
hey! I printed it with tpu settings, Print it sloowwww. I dont recall the temps I printed it at
Try SEBS 95A. Or PEBA
I’ll check that out
Agreed, been waiting to see a PEBA one.
Hint: run simulations to adjust your model and use a Durometer to measure the hardness of the TPU. Use a scientific approach to solve the problem.
I don’t have that kind of time for a basketball I’m never going to use 😆 this was 100% for fun
Why did you add extra support to them? If you added a layer inside theres a potentially for it to be less breakables
How many infill should I use?
Struggling to create the support like you , what slicer did you use as Creatily one is impossible
I switched to orca slicers and I prefer it over the creality slicer.
How do you remove support on inside
So I'm using tpu95a so it means it will gonnna work good and bouncy
It will hold up and bounce but it won’t bounce as good as a real ball
Which one has better bounce between flashforge fpla and ataraxia fpla? I watched the video, but I'm not good at English, so I'm having trouble understanding it, so I'm leaving a comment.
A 5% or something gyroid infill with reduced wall thickness on infill might do it, or that other new 3d honey comb infill I can't remember the name off. but with walls like half inch to an inch apart inside might take up that extra load.
ASA with actual layer adhesion will be perfect for this. You need an 80C chamber and LOTS of cooling to print it with properly. Regular printers are not going to cut it. You need a Voron or something with parts that can take 80C and with a lot of insulation. Proper nylon would be ideal but it's difficult to print with fdm. Even in a 100C chamber it will shrink and fuck with you.
What about PEBA?
@@zakparamir755 No, flexible filaments won't bounce. It needs to be fairly stiff but with impact strength. ASA or ABS but printed properly in a very hot chamber will do the trick.
@@zakparamir755 PETG might work too if printed in a 50-60C chamber.
Since it don’t need to be exactly the same maybe try adding multiple layers(thin) with different materials to create the bounce and durability.
What about PETG?
I think it would be too dense and end up cracking. The flexible pla seems to be best. I also saw others using PEB? I think it was and that seemed to work too.
hey mam. first time i see your videos keep it up the good job. i can tell you why all of the balls you print fail. the reason is way simpler than just the filament. the original wilson ball was a second smaller ball inside who touch the outside(like a centimeter from the exterior) this gives the ball the stability to bounce like spring.
Thanks for the tips!
Carter pcs made a good one he orders the filament from the same company that made the airless basketball filament
china will make one for 100.00
Oh for sure, someone with money to burn will absolutely knock it off lol
Or less
0.01 cent
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I would like to see how super hard 70D hardness or greater bounces
I looked and a lot of those were hard to find. There was one brand but it was over seas and expensive. Maybe I wasn’t looking in the right places lol
Use TPE at 50-100% infill.
Expensive filament but worth I think, it's bounce and durability is nuts
try PEBA
Has anyone tried carbon fiber filament?
Someone who tested this ball said that it smells exactly like a new shoe.
😆😆 i guess it’s not a bad smell
Pla then out she’ll in Tup
🤘🤘🤘🤘
Thanks for stopping by!
as any1 done nylon?
I have not but would be cool to see someone try!
@@TwoMooseDesign I recon that's the best 1 to try.
I am right now using PA6 and have pa6-cf coming this week. So far it seems really promising.
Polypropylene could also be a decent option too but right now I am testing a range of nylons to see what I can discover. The Wilson ball is a nylon blend so hoping that its workable.
I'm not doing it for money myself, I run a business that helps companies develop prototypes and this is a great opportunity for me to demonstrate on a project that we know the end goal is possible, as well as showcase FDM technology even though it's not the right choice for this project really
You think that with the filaments that are on the market, you will make a ball (it costs 2.5K). Well, what are you kidding, you need to develop special filaments, make them, test them, and you know all this just to fill up space on RUclips, but thanks for making me laugh