Agreed! Truer words couldn't have been spoken. "Anybody who thinks this is great because it measures well isn't an audiophile".. no, those people are called AUDIO ENGINEERS. Kinda like saying "Those that do not believe the earth is flat aren't true believers!".. no they are SCIENTISTS. So if you like outing yourself by going around shouting "I'm dumb!!" go right ahead.
Excellent work, re-review from me is complete too, and put together the CMA hi-fi show we put together as many super flagship equipment as possible. This journey doesn’t ever end for SUS, Wa33 RedOctober lta z10e mass kobo 465 Were the latest additions including a lot of the amplifiers you mentioned that there’s no point repeating here like AIC et cetera, but predominantly it was the DAC lineup that I was more interested in when we push SUS beyond these limits such as Dcs Rossini apex with the clock WaveDream signature lampizator Golden Atlantic Aperio to name but a few. Hopefully at some point if you ever attend London, you can make the next meet. I’ve stated in many other places before too, this Headphones will only reflect the equipment behind it the output stage and technicality it’s not actually down to the Headphones themselves. They are the most boundless limitless. Planar in the world and will only reflect what you feed it, it’ll be interesting to look through your sound impressions with these amplifiers and see how it aligns with myself, currently AIC wavedream signature HM1R the units predominantly in my reference chain that has the potential to stay for the next 18 months until Poseidon comes Excellent work
Wow, a few simple changes and it's wide open. I changed the DAC setting, Changed the Interconnects and added my higher end power cord and it was night and day. Now i'm seriously doing some critical and musical listening.....
Riviera AIC-10, Trafomatic Primavera, viva Egoists 845, Wa 33 elite, Aries cerat genus , and the mass kobo are generally considered the best hp almost for Sus.
@@davidpilon9433 Not really, at least not to the world of audio. Perhaps I am a bit naïve but I am always a bit surprised when folks fall to obvious click baits. I should set my expectations of humans a bit lower.
If I want to maximize sound stage of the Susvara to the level of Sennheiser hd800s does the mass-kobo 465 do it? also thank you this video really helps am looking for end game susvara/1266TC Amplifier but stage is top priority.
Greetings from Northern California! I will be reviewing the Susvara Unveiled. I will be reviewing using the HIFIMAN EF1000 DAC, which, of course should be fabulous, but I own the Pass Labs HPA-1 class A headphone amp. The Susvara Unveiled is easier to drive, so I was wondering if you think the Pass Labs would be a good amp? The output voltage is power into 300 ohms 200 mW.Only single ended input jack... For the Pass Labs the DAC I will be using the Topping DX7 Pro. thanks, I still love your reviews even though you've gone to the IEMs. :)
Accuphase E-280, Denon SX11 and Willsenton R-800i here for Susvarra. My best setup is with the class A tube amp but it needs more setup compare to connect directly to my solid state amps.
hi Sajid, didn't you have Accuphase E-380 and not E-5000? Were you able to spent considerable amount of time with E-5000 paired with Susvara? Would love to see a review :)
Thanks! Do you think the Hifiman SERENADE or EF600 is good enough for the Susvara? Or is there something else up to 2k€ you would recommend to drive these? I'm just looking to drive the susvara as good as possible via my PC connection - I do not need any speaker function or streamer or anything.
What do you think of pass xp12 plus xa25 and where should it be placed? and same question on hifiman ef1000. I remember the early posts on Headfi, you tried them and really liked them, if I remember correctly.
GM☕️ I’ve ended my headphone amp/DAC search and I’m good. Bryston BHA-1 (preamp) Denafrips 12-1 DAC Schitt Lokius EQ AUDEZE LCDX 2021…and I’m good . That being said ..SUSVARA is top tier and requires a not only a powerful amplifier..but it’s actually picky regarding its amplification. Now, if I win the lottery..the Woo23 tube amp and Denafrips latest Terminator DAC . Great video, thank you.
You're the only reviewer who talks about Oor's boring and lifeless treble, and I completely agree with you! Hypsos is not helping it. I thought that I was crazy, because all other reviewers never mentioned that. Personally, I moved to Soncoz SGP1 speaker amp. It drivers my Tungsten DS better than Oor+Hypsos or Burson Soloist 3x GT, but costs just $1100.
I truly value your reviews and opinions.. I'm a bit baffled . I just got the Riveria AIC-10 to pair with my Susvara and Lina Dac. Very, Very early impressions.I don't hear any slam at all with Susvara. I have the prelude amp as well and so far that low end is much more dynamic and impactful??? The rest of the amp description I agree with but the low end has me almost depressed that my $2500 amp is more dynamic? I must have somethig off. I am going to swap out my JPS superconductor interconnects for Moon Silver dragon and see if that helps? Im perplexed I was expecting nirvana ! So far for almost 20K not so much...........im getting bummed. Hoping breaking in will also make a difference? about 30 hours so far so yes it is way early but I was so surprised to find the low end so light. Tube roll already? I do mostly streaming on Roon , Any thoughts?
Wow! Did I blow it by making any conclusions that early. Apologies and Hugh update. I replaced a bad interconnect cable. Did get the headphones cable with speaker tap ends. The result is electro-stat clarity and intense detail with The exact amount of needed SLAM. I never heard from Susvara before. Basically a heavenly match! Apologies for the emotional gibberish above. Seriously I really had a second take on this set up after my cable replacement
Aligned with ferrum oor + susvara being 'not my thing.' I went from that to the ahb2 and my mind exploded. At the time i even liked the ef400 with the sus better than the oor.
So you rank 1. Riveria AIC10 2. Mass Kobo 465 3. Accuphase 5000 4. Zahl HM1 5. Primevera Trafomatic What about the rest? Are the rest all close together so you don't list them?
Did not try with the susvara. Based on my short demo, i found it to be very neutral and polite sounding for my taste. Treble was extended but not too sharp, mids and bass were a little laid back but still well presented. Was using the final d8000 along with some matrix dac, can't remember which one.
I fell for the hype and was very disappointed. I thought it was me, but I am glad to see others have the same issues that I had/have with the A90D. Thank you for sharing.
20:00 to 20:22 best part of the video!!! Thanks for being so straight forward and honest 🙏🙏🙏
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Yes, the most ridiculous parts. He judges the products by price and looks and pretends that this is sound
agreed, it’s shtty for music. It is secretly good for FPS gaming.
Agreed! Truer words couldn't have been spoken. "Anybody who thinks this is great because it measures well isn't an audiophile".. no, those people are called AUDIO ENGINEERS. Kinda like saying "Those that do not believe the earth is flat aren't true believers!".. no they are SCIENTISTS. So if you like outing yourself by going around shouting "I'm dumb!!" go right ahead.
Excellent work, re-review from me is complete too, and put together the CMA hi-fi show we put together as many super flagship equipment as possible.
This journey doesn’t ever end for SUS,
Wa33 RedOctober lta z10e mass kobo 465
Were the latest additions including a lot of the amplifiers you mentioned that there’s no point repeating here like AIC et cetera, but predominantly it was the DAC lineup that I was more interested in when we push SUS beyond these limits such as
Dcs Rossini apex with the clock WaveDream signature lampizator Golden Atlantic Aperio to name but a few. Hopefully at some point if you ever attend London, you can make the next meet.
I’ve stated in many other places before too, this Headphones will only reflect the equipment behind it the output stage and technicality it’s not actually down to the Headphones themselves. They are the most boundless limitless. Planar in the world and will only reflect what you feed it, it’ll be interesting to look through your sound impressions with these amplifiers and see how it aligns with myself, currently AIC wavedream signature HM1R the units predominantly in my reference chain that has the potential to stay for the next 18 months until Poseidon comes
Excellent work
Wow, a few simple changes and it's wide open. I changed the DAC setting, Changed the Interconnects and added my higher end power cord and it was night and day. Now i'm seriously doing some critical and musical listening.....
Riviera AIC-10, Trafomatic Primavera, viva Egoists 845, Wa 33 elite, Aries cerat genus , and the mass kobo are generally considered the best hp almost for Sus.
Feliks Envy with Elrog300TM + G73R
Someone finally tells the truth about topping. I'm starting to believe that most so called audiophiles have terrible hearing.
Do you believe that this guy really has tested the amplifiers? Why should he then show the pictures on a tablet?
@@robertoavanzi I think you are new here
@@davidpilon9433 Not really, at least not to the world of audio. Perhaps I am a bit naïve but I am always a bit surprised when folks fall to obvious click baits. I should set my expectations of humans a bit lower.
Thank you for this! Valuable comparisons! Any thoughts about the AHB2?
Nice one. I found it a bit sterile and it didn’t stand out for me compared to other speaker amps.
@@amplifyaudioreviews thank you so much for sharing! ✨
If I want to maximize sound stage of the Susvara to the level of Sennheiser hd800s does the mass-kobo 465 do it? also thank you this video really helps am looking for end game susvara/1266TC Amplifier but stage is top priority.
Greetings from Northern California! I will be reviewing the Susvara Unveiled. I will be reviewing using the HIFIMAN EF1000 DAC, which, of course should be fabulous, but I own the Pass Labs HPA-1 class A headphone amp. The Susvara Unveiled is easier to drive, so I was wondering if you think the Pass Labs would be a good amp? The output voltage is power into 300 ohms 200 mW.Only single ended input jack... For the Pass Labs the DAC I will be using the Topping DX7 Pro. thanks, I still love your reviews even though you've gone to the IEMs. :)
Accuphase E-280, Denon SX11 and Willsenton R-800i here for Susvarra. My best setup is with the class A tube amp but it needs more setup compare to connect directly to my solid state amps.
can you tell me how much you have to turn the volume knob form each amps to hear the maximum volume from susvara?
No mention of Burson?
hi Sajid, didn't you have Accuphase E-380 and not E-5000?
Were you able to spent considerable amount of time with E-5000 paired with Susvara?
Would love to see a review :)
20:18 I remember reading that the ahb2 couldn't beat the topping a90 in a blind test among audiophiles
Unlikely. I am sure you’ll pass the said blind test.
I never hear anyone talk about the nimbus amp.
Thanks!
Do you think the Hifiman SERENADE or EF600 is good enough for the Susvara? Or is there something else up to 2k€ you would recommend to drive these?
I'm just looking to drive the susvara as good as possible via my PC connection - I do not need any speaker function or streamer or anything.
What do you think of pass xp12 plus xa25 and where should it be placed? and same question on hifiman ef1000.
I remember the early posts on Headfi, you tried them and really liked them, if I remember correctly.
GM☕️
I’ve ended my headphone amp/DAC search and I’m good.
Bryston BHA-1 (preamp)
Denafrips 12-1 DAC
Schitt Lokius EQ
AUDEZE LCDX 2021…and I’m good .
That being said ..SUSVARA is top tier and requires a not only a powerful amplifier..but it’s actually picky regarding its amplification.
Now, if I win the lottery..the Woo23 tube amp and Denafrips latest Terminator
DAC .
Great video, thank you.
Awesome review! A lot of people were waiting for it 👏
Glad you liked it!
wow , you finally updated this episode!!!!
Great info. But what about Head Trip II tho? 🤔
Envy is the best 😊
You're the only reviewer who talks about Oor's boring and lifeless treble, and I completely agree with you! Hypsos is not helping it. I thought that I was crazy, because all other reviewers never mentioned that.
Personally, I moved to Soncoz SGP1 speaker amp. It drivers my Tungsten DS better than Oor+Hypsos or Burson Soloist 3x GT, but costs just $1100.
Any comparisons between Auris Nirvana & Manley Absolute Headphone Amplifier. Have you tried any? If so how did it perform?
I truly value your reviews and opinions.. I'm a bit baffled . I just got the Riveria AIC-10 to pair with my Susvara and Lina Dac. Very, Very early impressions.I don't hear any slam at all with Susvara. I have the prelude amp as well and so far that low end is much more dynamic and impactful??? The rest of the amp description I agree with but the low end has me almost depressed that my $2500 amp is more dynamic? I must have somethig off. I am going to swap out my JPS superconductor interconnects for Moon Silver dragon and see if that helps? Im perplexed I was expecting nirvana ! So far for almost 20K not so much...........im getting bummed. Hoping breaking in will also make a difference? about 30 hours so far so yes it is way early but I was so surprised to find the low end so light. Tube roll already? I do mostly streaming on Roon , Any thoughts?
are you driving it with the headphone output inthe front or speaker taps?
I have aic10+lina. Use the speaker taps. Get double helix headphone cables. Upgrade your power cables.
Wow! Did I blow it by making any conclusions that early. Apologies and Hugh update. I replaced a bad interconnect cable. Did get the headphones cable with speaker tap ends. The result is electro-stat clarity and intense detail with The exact amount of needed SLAM. I never heard from Susvara before. Basically a heavenly match! Apologies for the emotional gibberish above. Seriously I really had a second take on this set up after my cable replacement
May I know how you connect Accuphase E5000 speakers output taps to your Susvara ?
Aligned with ferrum oor + susvara being 'not my thing.' I went from that to the ahb2 and my mind exploded. At the time i even liked the ef400 with the sus better than the oor.
When my Susvara goes up against the Shark Navigator there is nothing for it but the iCan Signature amp.
Can anyone recommend a (balanced) cable upgrade for the Susvara? I have a Niimbus HPA US 4+.
Keep saying "The Bees Knees" please. One of the only RUclips reviews I've liked thanks.
Feliks Envy is my pick for Susvara.
Wa33, Prima 400 EVO, P750u
Riviera for me still king closely followed by MK465
So you rank
1. Riveria AIC10
2. Mass Kobo 465
3. Accuphase 5000
4. Zahl HM1
5. Primevera Trafomatic
What about the rest? Are the rest all close together so you don't list them?
Very tempted to join the Susvura club. But cannot decide on the amp. Was eyeing Violectric V550, has anyone tried it?
Did not try with the susvara. Based on my short demo, i found it to be very neutral and polite sounding for my taste. Treble was extended but not too sharp, mids and bass were a little laid back but still well presented. Was using the final d8000 along with some matrix dac, can't remember which one.
Anyone using the moon 430ha amp for susvara ?
Awesome review!!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Tbe Topping A90D take was too funny 😂 I had one also and its lifeless and it will ruin your listening enjoyment
I fell for the hype and was very disappointed. I thought it was me, but I am glad to see others have the same issues that I had/have with the A90D. Thank you for sharing.
Prefer Envy to Rivera by far.
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465 was made for it.
20:13 You put your finger on it…measurements are one thing ..how does it actually sound..that’s what’s important!