I was so dense when first playing Oblivion. I thought like "well it's really nice here, wonder if I can buy a house" not realizing it was basically a ghetto
I'd point out that a very small number of Bravil's employed people are in jobs that would aid the local economical growth. 11 of them are employed by the city's nobility or church, both of which aren't really industries. The Fighter's Guild is a tiny chapter, more of a waystation. The Mage's Guild chapter is thriving, but only mages have access to their wealth beyond taxation. Ursanne Loch may as well be unemployed. And a huge number of the remaining people are just trainers. So, in terms of actual laborers and business owners for the city's wealth, 12 people, or 20.3% of the population, and even that's stretching to include S'Krivva. This is beyond an unemployed labor force, what labor force they have isn't able to grow the economy.
Makes sense. unfortunately, the logic in this should account for gameplay>economic realism. what does it take to feed cyrodil? take the number of farmers in the game and scale it up to a reasonable number. maybe we should be scaling down people of interest the same way. trainer, guild, guard, adventurer, and shopkeeper numbers are important to gameplay, so we shouldnt be counting them straight up
I wonder how bad Bravil is compared to Riften in TESV? Riften seem to at least have some industry (fishery, Black-Briar Meadery, and some farms) and perhaps better location (right next to Morrowind), but much worse in crime, corruption, and leadership problem.
@@alexbattaglia8297 Yeah, although Riften is still better than Markarth. Igmund is better Jarl, but that city as a whole is somehow more horrible than Riften in every way, with cannibal cultists, Falmers underground, and the Forsworns both inside and outside.
Nibenbay is described as a thriving sifhing and crop growing area (I mean there isn't much but there you go, feudal society at it's finest 70% of the countie's population or more mustbe in the rural sector)
Mostly correct but more to a much minor degree than Leyawiin. Both cities are close to the mouth of the niben river which allows access to who enters and who leaves. If cyrodill didn't control the mouth the imperial city would have a really tough time defending the river and having access to trade across Tamriel since it's typically easier to trade by boat than by land.
@@Vexin980 oh fuck, I forgot to add, he is vague intentionally. It's a plot pont with Littlefinger. Tyrion tries to address it, by creating more taxes, but it's too little too late, and there is a chance of a medieval economy collapse in Westeros lol And Littlefinger obviously would benefit greatly from that due to his book plots. Fuck now I want to read it again lmao
@Deniz Julian Metinoğlu T. Also the Guard: "I should do something to stop them but its not my problem." *stabs random adventurer and steals their 100 gold*
I love this. Bravil is my favorite place in all Tamriel, simply because it reminds me of where I grew up. Seeing anyone talk about it for 18 minutes is just amazing, let alone with this depth and detail!
@@MegaJboy1997 Small town central Alberta(Red Deer area, bounced between a couple of towns). We poor af and my small town was considered the Meth Capital of Canada for a few years(It was really bad man, Something like a third of the population was addicted). In addition to having large amounts of racism towards one group (Native American peoples) for no legitimate reason, and a government that refuses to either acknowledge or do anything about any of these situations. Oh! And the trade routes thing also kind of applies. Most of AB oil comes from further north, and having it make stops in central AB makes no sense when you can trek on for a little longer just to hit Calgary. Actually writing this down makes me realize just how similar my hometowns were to Bravil like holy shit.
@@PerishingPurplePulsar meth is def a little too speedy. but if you ever get depressed that your family is poor. you can excape be trying heroin. its very warm and nice and chill. bro
You know it would likely be better if the town was independant. Now yes it may fight with you a few times but if it does get some Kahjiit to bring some more skoma. Black mail the leaders & sow disent keep it weak & it'll be no more than a pseudo state of the empire that thinks its free.
Loved it, really wish I could get into legends to know more about the lore but I have such a disinterested reading problem. But I like how you posed the trade examples at the end.
Legends is definitely a hard sell, and took me a long time to get into. If you like card games, or were ever interested in one, I'd highly recommend it. The little 4E lore bits we get are a treat too.
City Swimmer is totally part of the Thieves Guild. Every indication screams at you in the game if you play it enough. Once she trusts you enough she will tell you how to Join the Thieves Guild. She also lives directly above S'krivva who's a Doyen of the Thieves Guild. The only thing that can throw people off is that she doesn't say "You wear the shadows well, fellow thief" Once you're a member of the Thieves Guild. At least not in the Xbox version of Oblivion
Regarding Bravil's place as a port, the real question is how long it takes to travel up the Niben to the Imperial City. If the distance is big enough, Bravil could make money selling hospitality to merchants on their way to the City. However, it may just be the case that the Nibenay isn't big enough for this to be profitable.
This content absolutely stretches the itch I’ve been craving! Great editing, well researched, and entertaining as hell. Good work! I’m about to binge a bunch more! :D
This is a great video. It really makes me want a full history broken down by eras of Tamriel in volume videos to keep it short, allow for more views of parts I like the best, and allow for easy to upload videos for you. You know how to make a video. This isn't the first video I've watched of yours that made me want this. Another was the Argonian...uh...boobs video. Not sure why this was so odd to mention. lol
Top shelf content! I came for the Oblivion nerd out, stayed bc same, and left pleased to have been informed about the relationship between formal and informal economies. Thanks and keep it up!
I don't see a number three card and that threw me way off! This is far more in-depth and honestly exciting than I thought I would be! Thank you for your immense effort!
I LOOOVE this video idea. I've always wanted to see someone to an in-depth study into Bravil, considering that the city has a very interesting situation compared to the others
Merchant ships would likely have stopped at Bravil, mainly because tramp shipping is the main form of shipping and it involves stopping everywhere. However, merchants would likely only sell food and city-produced goods to ships because most land-based producers would go to the Imperial City to trade, because it’s richer. Leyawiin meanwhile is far away enough to get a decent amount of locally produced goods. Bravil therefore only really has the docks as an industry and it’s not a big one, and dock areas are always poor due to insecure work. Dock areas are plagued by the sight of workers heading to the dock gate every morning to find out if there’s any work for them. Because of this style of work, dockers have to live near the docks themselves, which contributes to the poverty of those areas. Even with centuries old forms of state welfare, such as English Old Poor Law, or the welfare of the Church, poverty was and has always been an issue in dock areas. Bravil has nothing really to sell to ships beyond bartering a few local items for essentials, so the dock trade is even more depressed than it otherwise would be. Behind every rich merchant city there’s a poor docks area, except in Bravil there’re few merchants and an even poorer dock area
I was a bit surprised to seeing in my subscription feed. I didn't remember subscribing. But I have to pat my former self on the back. Good choice subscribing to leftoverpat. Good video man! :)
I am really suprised at the amount of effort and statistics you put in. Kind of a shame to put all that potential into a problem that doesnt exist such as a video game. It makes me wonder how many more men are so hard working and talented and could do so much good for the society if only they had a chance. But in this day and economy with total corruption and destruction of our civilisation thats whats left for many to do. Know this Sir you did a fine job.
17:05 It depends on what this khajiit "merchant" *cough* dealer *cough* is selling. They might appreciate Bravil's laxness on drug trade. Also fantastic video.
That's how I use my imagination for the cities in these games. Like yeah the city only has a handful of people but in the lore it's like thousands and to me you're just meeting the most notable people.
The one thing Bravil might have going for it is that it's in a good position to base a fleet to control the Nibenay Bay, close enough to also be able to support both the Imperial City and Topal bay as needed.
why can i get more ads like this? instead i’m getting ads about selling on amazon or fucking dogshit about relationship advice. thank you for buying this ad slot sir!
Imagine learning from a meme. These are great. Please don't stop making these. Also, I took classes on Micro & Macroeconomics last semester. You used terms like "Unemployment rate, Opportunity cost, Formal/Informal economy" -- Did you learn these concepts just for the video or did you learn about economics elsewhere?
I knew a little about these things going in and already had some idea to connect it to each but had a lot of research to do to get it right :) video was inspired by "lol what's Bravils unemployment rate"
@@LeftoverPat What were some points that you wanted to fit into the video but couldn't? For example: Philip's Curve. It's the economic concept that states (past a certain threshold) *more workers = higher inflation*. You probably could do a bit on PC, but that would lead down a rabbit hole of the economies of each town and how cities affect the economy of their surrounding towns. EDIT: Or how would war affect this town specifically. If more people were called to serve in the army, there would be labor being produced in the form of defense, but none of that production would make its way to Bravil. In fact, Bravil would lose out on any production those people could output.
Actually, in the past that was how emperors and their lords worked. A poor city makes the emperor no money and they retain power by making their citizens happy. Emperors and kings who were successful fucked over their lords in favour of their peasants to make themselves more money and give themselves more power over their lands. Also Bravils location is way more important than you think. Bravil sits right in the middle of the only major river between the ocean and the capital city. It's both a military and important trade city. Kinda hard to trade goods with the most efficient ancient trade method when a blockade is stopping you.
Great video, but I kinda chuckled when you said “I don’t wanna make a video that’s too polarizing” when talking about class struggles, race and poverty - nuanced reality certainly has a way of polarizing audiences. I believe by talking about observable phenomena in video games, you can help connect the dots for video game players, many of whom have either been sheltered from or largely are permitted to ignore such problems in real life
Man as a kid I think I wanted to live in here the most I just liked the aesthetic I had no idea I barely paid attention to the quests back then and I also probably wanted to try skooma
Makes me wonder if Bravil's situation would be better if it was located on the other side of Niben Bay. At least then it would have greater access to the rest of the county instead of being sandwiched between the river and Elsweyr.
No bc this is an enormous region known to be "unexplored and wild", and unless cheydinhal, i don't see many civilisation in the east part of Cyrodiil i don't remember the name of regions
I know its probably a lil late to ask this like 3 years after the videos out but what is the mod/fan game he has on screen that looks like total wars map but elder scrolls? Like at 15:41
THIS WAS AMAZING i was very sceptical about the video i allmost didnt click but......(just go back to the start of my comment :) ) (at the end of the video i instantly liked subscribed and commented and this is the first video i saw from you!)
I noticed you mentioned the lack of Imperials but why not mention the lack of Redguards which are in each city except Bravil despite being a port which is strange since Redguards are avid Sailors. Also check out the relatively high Altmer population in Bravil. I see a correlation. Perhaps Bravil is a front for the Aldmeri Dominion?
Bravil indeed would be a good place to have a harbor, but then Leyawiin and the Imperial City are on the other ends of the river, with Leyawiin being at the mouth of the river, usually a place for harbors and trading posts, it also sits on a narrow part of Cyrodiil, right between Elsweyr and Black March, wich explains the high argonian and khajiit population.
I was so dense when first playing Oblivion. I thought like "well it's really nice here, wonder if I can buy a house" not realizing it was basically a ghetto
I liked the weird architecture and the river going through it LOL
Haha, me too!
"I wonder why real estate is so convenient"
In my first playthrough I immediately recognized Bravil was a shithole without knowing anything about it beforehand.
@@mcgoldenblade4765 I kinda knew something was wrong but I was too young to really understand. I just did my quests and got out
I'd point out that a very small number of Bravil's employed people are in jobs that would aid the local economical growth. 11 of them are employed by the city's nobility or church, both of which aren't really industries. The Fighter's Guild is a tiny chapter, more of a waystation. The Mage's Guild chapter is thriving, but only mages have access to their wealth beyond taxation. Ursanne Loch may as well be unemployed. And a huge number of the remaining people are just trainers. So, in terms of actual laborers and business owners for the city's wealth, 12 people, or 20.3% of the population, and even that's stretching to include S'Krivva. This is beyond an unemployed labor force, what labor force they have isn't able to grow the economy.
interesting! love this analysis
Makes sense. unfortunately, the logic in this should account for gameplay>economic realism. what does it take to feed cyrodil? take the number of farmers in the game and scale it up to a reasonable number. maybe we should be scaling down people of interest the same way. trainer, guild, guard, adventurer, and shopkeeper numbers are important to gameplay, so we shouldnt be counting them straight up
I wonder how bad Bravil is compared to Riften in TESV? Riften seem to at least have some industry (fishery, Black-Briar Meadery, and some farms) and perhaps better location (right next to Morrowind), but much worse in crime, corruption, and leadership problem.
@@novaterra973 I'd say Riften's biggest problem is the Black-Briar family, and the incredibly naive Jarl
@@alexbattaglia8297 Yeah, although Riften is still better than Markarth. Igmund is better Jarl, but that city as a whole is somehow more horrible than Riften in every way, with cannibal cultists, Falmers underground, and the Forsworns both inside and outside.
Does Bravil exist solely to keep Elsweyr from having ports close to the Imperial City? More importantly, what do they eat, Todd?!
Skooma every meal just skooma
Nibenbay is described as a thriving sifhing and crop growing area (I mean there isn't much but there you go, feudal society at it's finest 70% of the countie's population or more mustbe in the rural sector)
If Ihad to guess; the banks of the Niben River are under Imperial control, largely to secure trade to and from the Imperial City.
Mostly correct but more to a much minor degree than Leyawiin. Both cities are close to the mouth of the niben river which allows access to who enters and who leaves. If cyrodill didn't control the mouth the imperial city would have a really tough time defending the river and having access to trade across Tamriel since it's typically easier to trade by boat than by land.
@@SpaceGrunt So while Anvil is the St. Petersburg of the Empire, Leyawiin and Bravil are the Odessa or Rostov-on-Don of the Empire?
"Guys, you ever wonder what was Aragorn's tax policy?"
- Some guy
George R. R. Martin if I remember correctly. Ironically in his own books he never actually addressed the tax policy of the Seven Kingdoms.
@@Vexin980 The tax policy of Westeros is implied here and there, like Tyrion creating a sex work tax, after becoming The Hand...
@@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 Is it ever actually said if the taxes are high or low?
@@Vexin980 he isn't that specific, but he vaguely rambles about some kind of taxation and debt, with the iron bank and such.
@@Vexin980 oh fuck, I forgot to add, he is vague intentionally. It's a plot pont with Littlefinger. Tyrion tries to address it, by creating more taxes, but it's too little too late, and there is a chance of a medieval economy collapse in Westeros lol
And Littlefinger obviously would benefit greatly from that due to his book plots. Fuck now I want to read it again lmao
That's it, you're coming to Bravil! That was not a request.
SH*T
Welp, they both start with Br, that's enough for me!
@Deniz Julian Metinoğlu T. Also the Guard: "I should do something to stop them but its not my problem." *stabs random adventurer and steals their 100 gold*
NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO GO TO BRAVIL!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
You are an absolute legend. There is real passion and effort here man and I really appreciate it.
And the sad fact is that he is underated.
I love this. Bravil is my favorite place in all Tamriel, simply because it reminds me of where I grew up. Seeing anyone talk about it for 18 minutes is just amazing, let alone with this depth and detail!
May I ask where you grew up?
@@MegaJboy1997 Small town central Alberta(Red Deer area, bounced between a couple of towns). We poor af and my small town was considered the Meth Capital of Canada for a few years(It was really bad man, Something like a third of the population was addicted). In addition to having large amounts of racism towards one group (Native American peoples) for no legitimate reason, and a government that refuses to either acknowledge or do anything about any of these situations. Oh! And the trade routes thing also kind of applies. Most of AB oil comes from further north, and having it make stops in central AB makes no sense when you can trek on for a little longer just to hit Calgary. Actually writing this down makes me realize just how similar my hometowns were to Bravil like holy shit.
Alternate universe bravil in Canada
You grew up in a ghetto?
@@PerishingPurplePulsar meth is def a little too speedy. but if you ever get depressed that your family is poor. you can excape be trying heroin. its very warm and nice and chill. bro
Welp, even bravil has a lower uneplyment rate than my country during the good times.
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Out of curiosity, I looked up our unemployment rate... 17 percent...
@Deniz Julian Metinoğlu T. Spain
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@@viacheslavpivovarov6767 okay, I realy do believe the s is silent in spain
A responsibility level of 10? No wonder she got a management position as Skooma Junkie+.
Despite making up only 10% of towns in Cyrodiil Bravil contributes to 50% of Cyrodiil's crime
90% of Bravillians ruin the reputation for the remaining 10%.
@natma relnam Well yes, but actually no, but actually technically.
You know it would likely be better if the town was independant. Now yes it may fight with you a few times but if it does get some Kahjiit to bring some more skoma. Black mail the leaders & sow disent keep it weak & it'll be no more than a pseudo state of the empire that thinks its free.
I found this video from scrolling through the oblivion community content on steam. This is really good, I'm surprised this doesn't have more views.
awesome to hear someone is coming here from that
@@LeftoverPat I found this video on Steam too. Sir you have a new subscriber.
Yeah, I cam from a Reddit post halfway down a thread
I can feel my brain getting fatter from watching these elder scrolls lore videos.
I misread as "Brazil" and I came like "what are you saying about my country? 👀" lol
It's the Detroit of Cyrodiil
*cries in bravilian*
I had no idea Bravil had this much interesting history behind it, this is a really great video and you should definitely do more of them!
Loved it, really wish I could get into legends to know more about the lore but I have such a disinterested reading problem. But I like how you posed the trade examples at the end.
Legends is definitely a hard sell, and took me a long time to get into. If you like card games, or were ever interested in one, I'd highly recommend it. The little 4E lore bits we get are a treat too.
City Swimmer is totally part of the Thieves Guild. Every indication screams at you in the game if you play it enough.
Once she trusts you enough she will tell you how to Join the Thieves Guild. She also lives directly above S'krivva who's a Doyen of the Thieves Guild. The only thing that can throw people off is that she doesn't say "You wear the shadows well, fellow thief" Once you're a member of the Thieves Guild. At least not in the Xbox version of Oblivion
A leader whos son is a drug addict? How unheard of
Where is Hunter
Every time he says the name Bravil incorrectly take a shot.
@Deniz Julian Metinoğlu T. No way, it's BRA-vuhl.
@Deniz Julian Metinoğlu T. No way, I have a house there. I should know. BRA-vuhl.
I am so fucking drunk rn. thanks
@@2Fat2Furi0us Don't go towards the light!
@@TheManWithManyNames I know, ut is way too warm for comfort.
The loading screen of Reenum is also Reenum staring at the canal.
This is so unbelievably well put together and thought out and i love every bit of it. You're amazing.
The views on this vid are not representative of how friggin good this video is
came here for the meme stayed for the KNOWLEDGE
This video is incredibly well written and edited! GREAT job!
thank you! this was a lot of fun to edit
Regarding Bravil's place as a port, the real question is how long it takes to travel up the Niben to the Imperial City. If the distance is big enough, Bravil could make money selling hospitality to merchants on their way to the City. However, it may just be the case that the Nibenay isn't big enough for this to be profitable.
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite Elder Scrolls lore channels.
9:29 is my favorite part
I think I know you..
The saddest part 😔 5:29
This content absolutely stretches the itch I’ve been craving! Great editing, well researched, and entertaining as hell. Good work! I’m about to binge a bunch more! :D
Thank you!
This is a great video. It really makes me want a full history broken down by eras of Tamriel in volume videos to keep it short, allow for more views of parts I like the best, and allow for easy to upload videos for you. You know how to make a video. This isn't the first video I've watched of yours that made me want this. Another was the Argonian...uh...boobs video. Not sure why this was so odd to mention. lol
Love this compliment, thank you!
@@LeftoverPat Very welcome. :)
This is such a great video, I love the attention to small details in a game world like this. Great job
Top shelf content! I came for the Oblivion nerd out, stayed bc same, and left pleased to have been informed about the relationship between formal and informal economies. Thanks and keep it up!
Good video man!!
LOVE FROM BRAVIL !!!!
This was a great video! I look forward to more like it in the future!
I don't see a number three card and that threw me way off!
This is far more in-depth and honestly exciting than I thought I would be! Thank you for your immense effort!
Gopher's tweet brought me here and I'm really happy bc holy shit your vids are so detailed and passionate
thank you! gopher's tweet blew my mind!!
I LOOOVE this video idea. I've always wanted to see someone to an in-depth study into Bravil, considering that the city has a very interesting situation compared to the others
Amazing video, I know so much more about one of my favorite game worlds. Thank you!
Merchant ships would likely have stopped at Bravil, mainly because tramp shipping is the main form of shipping and it involves stopping everywhere. However, merchants would likely only sell food and city-produced goods to ships because most land-based producers would go to the Imperial City to trade, because it’s richer. Leyawiin meanwhile is far away enough to get a decent amount of locally produced goods.
Bravil therefore only really has the docks as an industry and it’s not a big one, and dock areas are always poor due to insecure work. Dock areas are plagued by the sight of workers heading to the dock gate every morning to find out if there’s any work for them. Because of this style of work, dockers have to live near the docks themselves, which contributes to the poverty of those areas. Even with centuries old forms of state welfare, such as English Old Poor Law, or the welfare of the Church, poverty was and has always been an issue in dock areas. Bravil has nothing really to sell to ships beyond bartering a few local items for essentials, so the dock trade is even more depressed than it otherwise would be. Behind every rich merchant city there’s a poor docks area, except in Bravil there’re few merchants and an even poorer dock area
Excellent analysis, and amazing connection to real world history.
This is a great study and case file. Excellent work
Legendary writer and lore master !
Please continue making videos on cities.
(PS : I'm from the AU)
the sims 1 soundtrack on your videos are really something
Reenum has VERY gainful employment being in that loading screen, ya know.
I was a bit surprised to seeing in my subscription feed. I didn't remember subscribing. But I have to pat my former self on the back. Good choice subscribing to leftoverpat. Good video man! :)
Honestly, a fantastic video, reccomend to my friends, especially since taking into account real circumstances that would arise in such a city
A very well put and well-researched video. Bravil is indeed a city of many problems, I wonder if it will eventually overcome them, hopefully so.
found you on the steam community content and i thought u would of had like 50k subs minimum. great video. subscribed
Thank you! Great to hear the steam post is getting traffic.
I am really suprised at the amount of effort and statistics you put in. Kind of a shame to put all that potential into a problem that doesnt exist such as a video game. It makes me wonder how many more men are so hard working and talented and could do so much good for the society if only they had a chance. But in this day and economy with total corruption and destruction of our civilisation thats whats left for many to do. Know this Sir you did a fine job.
17:05 It depends on what this khajiit "merchant" *cough* dealer *cough* is selling. They might appreciate Bravil's laxness on drug trade. Also fantastic video.
I love all of your elder scrolls related videos. You can tell a lot of work and consideration of details went into these.
SO GOOD I love your location analysis
Skooma, created by the Dunmer using refined moonsugar.
Why am I addicted to these videos lmao great work dude, keep up!
Great video, man! I love when people actually look into the economics and worldbuilding of this mythology! So... Props from Inn Patron #1 :P
Don’t know how I missed yr channel, my man, but you’ve got a new subscriber 👍🏼
Nice shit, I learned stuff I didn't even so that's cool ^^ ! Though the way you said bravil bugged me the whole time xD
That's how I use my imagination for the cities in these games. Like yeah the city only has a handful of people but in the lore it's like thousands and to me you're just meeting the most notable people.
The one thing Bravil might have going for it is that it's in a good position to base a fleet to control the Nibenay Bay, close enough to also be able to support both the Imperial City and Topal bay as needed.
I just stumbled across this channel through Steam, and honestly great, worth the subscription.
NGL the fact that Water's Edge got an economical boost because of how shitty Bravil is, fuckin killed me.
Such a strange dichotomy between cooking up some skooma and not liking strange smells in their kitchens.
Thought i recognized the music at 13:20. Turns out it's the kalevala melody
why can i get more ads like this? instead i’m getting ads about selling on amazon or fucking dogshit about relationship advice. thank you for buying this ad slot sir!
Dude, First time watching a vid of yours. Incredible content.
as far as I know, skooma/moon sugar can affect khajiit also pretty hardcore
also really loving that Sims 1 music
"You are going to Bravil!"
Literally the best ad I have ever clicked
Hell yeah. Threw 10 bucks in. glad it gave people some joy
LeftoverPat Keep up the great videos, I’m gonna watch every one
You know what's incredible about this? How relevant it is to actual life.
This Channel is bout to blow up!
1st vid I watched of urs , and I subbed, really cool vid , X👍
Thank you :)
Mate, i would absolutely love a video about class struggles in Tamriel!
love your vids, it just makes me appreciate tes all the more
damn this is a great channel man keep up the good work
Woah! What's this quality content doing not being appreciated and this channel not blowing up?
Don't worry oblivion gates opened with the argonian tities.
The algorithm just needs to hit again.
love your vids, sending good vibes
0:07 water when u about 2 boil it 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Your videos are awesome man!
Great video my dude. Keep it up!
Imagine learning from a meme. These are great. Please don't stop making these.
Also, I took classes on Micro & Macroeconomics last semester. You used terms like "Unemployment rate, Opportunity cost, Formal/Informal economy" -- Did you learn these concepts just for the video or did you learn about economics elsewhere?
I knew a little about these things going in and already had some idea to connect it to each but had a lot of research to do to get it right :) video was inspired by "lol what's Bravils unemployment rate"
@@LeftoverPat What were some points that you wanted to fit into the video but couldn't?
For example: Philip's Curve. It's the economic concept that states (past a certain threshold) *more workers = higher inflation*.
You probably could do a bit on PC, but that would lead down a rabbit hole of the economies of each town and how cities affect the economy of their surrounding towns.
EDIT: Or how would war affect this town specifically. If more people were called to serve in the army, there would be labor being produced in the form of defense, but none of that production would make its way to Bravil. In fact, Bravil would lose out on any production those people could output.
Actually, in the past that was how emperors and their lords worked. A poor city makes the emperor no money and they retain power by making their citizens happy. Emperors and kings who were successful fucked over their lords in favour of their peasants to make themselves more money and give themselves more power over their lands.
Also Bravils location is way more important than you think. Bravil sits right in the middle of the only major river between the ocean and the capital city. It's both a military and important trade city. Kinda hard to trade goods with the most efficient ancient trade method when a blockade is stopping you.
Love the channel pat!
Seen this vid through nexus media post. And it's awesome!. One subscribe for you my good man
7:43 - "No, thanks, I'm square."
my dude, you earned yourself a sub.
"Reenum's there to stare at the canal all day and be in a loading screen." xD
Great video, but I kinda chuckled when you said “I don’t wanna make a video that’s too polarizing” when talking about class struggles, race and poverty - nuanced reality certainly has a way of polarizing audiences. I believe by talking about observable phenomena in video games, you can help connect the dots for video game players, many of whom have either been sheltered from or largely are permitted to ignore such problems in real life
Roxanne is my cat's secret skooma mommy.
Boy that Sims 1 music takes me back
Your videos deserve so many more views
Good point, the count's son's job is most likely "count's son", he is basically in training/apprenticeship to become count.
This video genuinely made me forget I didn’t live on Tamriel for a second lmao
Man as a kid I think I wanted to live in here the most
I just liked the aesthetic I had no idea I barely paid attention to the quests back then and I also probably wanted to try skooma
This video rules. This is the exact kind of under-the-hood world building I wish were solidified in the elder scrolls games. Thanks!
i agree. we can try but ultimately yeah, it's a LOT of digging. thanks for the comment :)
Makes me wonder if Bravil's situation would be better if it was located on the other side of Niben Bay. At least then it would have greater access to the rest of the county instead of being sandwiched between the river and Elsweyr.
No bc this is an enormous region known to be "unexplored and wild", and unless cheydinhal, i don't see many civilisation in the east part of Cyrodiil i don't remember the name of regions
@@Kartuvelis The Nibenay Basin.
8:09. "Unless they were corrupt." DING DING DING DING DING We have a winner!!! "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."
I know its probably a lil late to ask this like 3 years after the videos out but what is the mod/fan game he has on screen that looks like total wars map but elder scrolls? Like at 15:41
THIS WAS AMAZING i was very sceptical about the video i allmost didnt click but......(just go back to the start of my comment :) ) (at the end of the video i instantly liked subscribed and commented and this is the first video i saw from you!)
I noticed you mentioned the lack of Imperials but why not mention the lack of Redguards which are in each city except Bravil despite being a port which is strange since Redguards are avid Sailors. Also check out the relatively high Altmer population in Bravil. I see a correlation. Perhaps Bravil is a front for the Aldmeri Dominion?
I haven't heard of bravil's independence before, where can I hear more about it?
Every time Pat pronounces bravil ‘bravel’ a child in africa dies.
It causes me pain
Every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Hammerfell....
@@Menaceblue3 you can help prevent this by donating to the hammer fell deleting program
I saw a mudcrab the other day, horrible creatures.
@@TiddyTwyster indeed
Bravil indeed would be a good place to have a harbor, but then Leyawiin and the Imperial City are on the other ends of the river, with Leyawiin being at the mouth of the river, usually a place for harbors and trading posts, it also sits on a narrow part of Cyrodiil, right between Elsweyr and Black March, wich explains the high argonian and khajiit population.
I call it brave-ville
Edit 1: might make may (khajiit) oblivion character a skooma addict (get thoses stereotypes)