Masser, Secunda, and their perfect lunar calendar - Elder Scrolls: Leftover Lore
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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The moon video is here! We will explore Masser & Secunda's many mechanics and appearances through the Elder Scrolls games. Then, show some connections between these mechanics and the ja-Kha'jay - the Lunar Lattice.
00:00 - Intro
01:18 - Moon Chronology
07:00 - The Lunar Calendar
10:45 - The Lunar Lattice
13:00 - The End
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u/kingjoe64's Lunar Lattice & Demographic Projects
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Khajiit Forms Chart & Writeup by LyhliTheLuminescent
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Ja-Kha'jay Khajiit Forms Chart by Waffles
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[MUSIC] - in order
Astral Observatory - LoZ: Majora's Mask
Leftover Lore Theme - LeftoverPat
Oversnow - Ramon Molesworth (TES2)
Folk1 - Ramon Molesworth (TES2)
Redguard Adventures Ingame Theme 2
Sunrise of Flutes - TES4: Oblivion
Skyrim Theme - TES5: Skyrim
Out of the Cold - TES5: Skyrim
Secunda - TES5: Skyrim
Loading Music - Sims 1
A Winter's Tale - TES5: Skyrim
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When the world needed him most he returned
can you do a video on nordic burial practices, the underground cities, and how it can be prepared to real world history. I've always been confused because they say that a lot of the ruins were cities, but there are no signs of "living" above or below them, except for labyrinthian's above ground expanse.
That could be a VERY interesting topic
Perhaps the habitation areas were torn down for stones and other resources? Holdings of Jarl Gjalund lists Labyrinthian as a source of lumber and stone, which I interpreted as the ruin being used as a quarry. This is something that historically happened with ancient ruins - the Pyramids, Roman buildings and roads, etc.
he would become the Tarnished Archeologist of Elder Scrolls
Werewolf: "Ok, I'll just makes sure to get locked up for a few days when full moon approaches."
Masser and Secunda: *grins "Say no more!"
The way the sun shines on them indicates that it's very close to them! The light given real life distances would would make phases parallel to each other, but in game crescent phases can be at angles to each other.
Making me wish I included this in the vid!
Actually thats not the sun shining on them. I believe that they produce their own light, and no light actually reflects off of them because they don't actually exist. They are simply optical illusions caused by our limited mortal brains trying to comprehend their infinite size. That's also why their gravity doesn't affect anything. They have no gravity because they don't exist.
The furstocks that would appear according to the ingame phases @ 11:35 are:
- Senche
- Senche-raht
- Cathay
- Cathay-raht
- Suthay
- Suthay-raht
- Dagi
- Dagi-raht
Planned or coincidence? Don't think about it too hard 😂
Thanks for enjoying the video!
Love how u included don't think about it too hard cause u know people just will😂😂
I would love a deeper dive into eso lunar lore
I honestly don't know of any other game that has in depth constellation and lunar mechanics like TES series, and the little details that go into this makes me appreciate game design more. Thanks for the video, and I'm looking forward to future uploads!
This is a really nice comment. I totally agree looking at these details give you this hyper awareness of simple things in the games. Thanks for enjoying & wanting to stick around!
The only other game I can think of is Arma, but it's very different and it's there for a completely different purpose
Never leave, LeftoverPat. It started with seeking isnight into the Argonian physique, but now I am addicted. I need you to keep on the stream of Elder Scrolls lore.
Great as always! Your voice is really great for narration, your script flows really well, editing is top notch, audio is great, research is THOROUGH, I mean geez. All your videos are fantastic. Can’t wait for more!
Thank you so much! :)
I'm indeed a khajiit nut, and greatly appreciate this.
Hey, good news! There was a mod released on Nexus that fixes the save loading issue with the moons, as well as made the cycles a bit more consistent with the lore (Masser is 24 days, Secunda is 20 days). It's called Moons and Stars - Sky Overhaul SKSE
That is awesome! Thanks for bringing it to our attention!
so many different youtubers are using majora's mask music all of a sudden and i'm all for it
I love ESO. Please do ESO videos. Talk about the wilderqueen, the vestige, the evolution of harkons Castle, speculation on the Harrow storms, lydia titanborn. The elswyr dragons, wtf is rivenspire up to, wtf are Sloads, some of the dungeons and how they connect to lore in later games.
great suggestions
@@LeftoverPat ty! Also for creation stuff: what is Godhead, the fact that technology goes backward, the tribunal, what exactly does hermaeas Mora know and is his knowledge meta? Who chimmed? Who no ____(I forgot the name for the opposite of chimming)
@@Endrance88 I wonder if there are some interesting comparisons to ancient Egypt / Babylon on the technology there. I would love to do more on Godhead/Tribunal/Chim in general if i can think of a way to put my own spin on it
@@LeftoverPat whatever you can do. I would love to hear about it
Immediately liked the video for the inclusion of Majora's Mask music.
Yessssss
I appreciate what you did with the observatory theme from majoras mask in the intro, a very subtle, nerdy, and thematically appropriate reference.
4:24 you use the wording "strange angles" and I can't help but be reminded that that is the exact wording that the lore uses to describe the yokudan men and elves' way of going between two kalpas ("moving at strange angles"). its probably nothing but perhaps this could lead to an interpretation of that line relating to the moons
SO STOKED FOR THIS!!
You know what would be cool? A video about the gods of each province and how they relate to real world gods
Plus you can mention the khajiit gods and their different names, that's a cute detail
Love your stuff 🖤
Great suggestions!
Honestly, if I ever write an "Isekai with a cheat power" story set in TES, it is going to be a kitty with the power to shift furstocks at will. That would be a really cool power, perhaps a blessing from Azura given that she created the cat-like beast race from the prot-wood elves.
That would be a crazy cool ability. If khajiit were dragonborn and could invent shouts, would this be one?
Thanks for this. I'm running an Elder Scrolls tabletop game for some friends and that lunar calendar is extremely helpful for keeping track of when the moons are full, something I need to keep track of since the party includes a werebear.
Can you imagine if Bethesda made the Lunar Lattice and moon phases more prevalent in TES:6?
I love the opening.
so glad to see you're back on track, looking forward to the new season
Amazing video. I always love to stare at the moons during travelling the roads in Oblivion.
When the time is right, make more videos. When you do, I'll be there to watch them
Thank you king
This may be the best TES channel. Insane content as always. Great to have you back!
Thank you!
I love ESO! And I would love a video more in depth on the moons in ESO!
thanks for the lunar calendar, I'm going to use it in my homebrew Skyrim RPG , our khajit will be excited
Really going in depth here. Interesting video.
Your channel is my EVERYTHING
i been waiting for you to upload more elder scrolls videos, and my wait was justified.
He returns! Best of luck with everything!
Thank you! Looking forward to it
Why argonian with monocle, when khajiit with a fancy hat?
Now, fancy hat for a khajiit, are we talking classic top hat or something more like a giant turban?
@@dreamingsophie5792 colovian fur
don't give me any ideas 😂
So good! Great to see your face at the end with the update.
This is fast becoming one of my favorite channels on Elder. Scrolls and other such things
Love to hear that, thank you
Thank you so much for going all the way to get an accurate answer. That fascination and willingness is what makes your channel great.
Could you discuss what steps need to be taken to make games like Elder Scrolls and other open world fantasy games become more like free flowing, all systems interact and create unexpected, new events and outcomes, depending on the players and fully independent AI's choices, the ambition of open world fantasy games, but not yet realized, computing power and buget constraints, at least not yet anyway.
Again thank you for your work and curiosity. I loved the video about determining real world influences on Tamriels cultures.
Glad to see you were able to make at least one more video. I love exploring the unappreciated estuaries of worldbuilding vast worlds. Can't wait to see more
Amazing video! I'm really excited for the next one, love your content
Great video as always, keep up the good job!
I love these videos, all the best!!
Bravo! Another excellent video. I’m so glad to see one of your videos in my feed again, they’re so well researched, just a blast to watch. Keep up the good work.
I guess you just made a new idea for a mod its to have the same moon position for every save when loading them lol also thanks for the great video
Been looking forward to this, good stuff
Our own moon is often slower than the night/day cycle.
Glad you're back!
This was well worth the wait, keep it up
Why thank you :)
Please make an extended ESO moon video, I am begging
Love your videos, they are so well done 🥰
Thank you so much :)
This is so in depth! 🤩
Man I love watching lore videos on games like Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls franchise in general. To me, it feels like we discovered a portal in real life that leads to this alternative universe and now we are studying this foreign world from afar, with the help of the games. It's a weird thought but it's what makes learning the lore of a game so magical to me.
Secunda is related to the Quantum Moon from Outer Wilds, hence why it repositions itself every reload.
love the elderscrolls content!!!
Love the intro your videos make me chim
LOL
I love looking at the night sky in video games. One of my favorite things is the disappearing star in Majora's Mask
This video is gold
I'll never forget the first time I've played skyrim (7 years ago) and saw the two moons at night
most game only have one moon but when I saw that skyrim had two I was so puzzled and really felt like I was in a different world than me own, love this franchise to death
Ok you deserve a million subscribers simply for using the flower cat meme.
Also I would love to see you do a deep dive into Clan Mothers.
Great video for Nirn's moons.
We should talk about the third moon
Thank you! Does the third moon even go to this school?
@@LeftoverPat if it doesn't it should.
Such a good channel
As always you dont cease to amaze. Im glad I subbed.
Lovely compliment, thank you
@@LeftoverPat Nah man You deserve it.
fantastic video.
I like how your avatar is a argonian because your voice reminds me of their voices in Skyrim and I mean this as the biggest compliment. Great video and I appreciate the shout out to eso and that it brings so much to the table.
I appreciate this comment
The Elder Scrolls Legends is my favourite source for art. I have stolen those assets numerous times.
It's also the best card game I've ever played, still salty with its death
Agree! Not sure how popular it still is, but I'm able to find quick matchups any night I play (just played last night!)
I don't mean for this to sound too cliche or anything, but this is definitely one the best channels I've ever subscribed to. I found it when I came across the Bravil unemployment video when scrolling through random elder scroll content creators and I've got to say, each video has been pleasantly informative and enjoyable.
You seem like a really cool dude and someone who's more than deserving of whatever profit and fame you can get from these vids and the work you do in the ES community. More people should be subbed to you. All the power to you.
What a nice comment, thank you!
Love the videos, plus the cat bro.
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regarding the moons, why doesn't Nirn have a tidal system?
Like I understand from a gameplay design perspective that tides would be a lot for the engine to handle, but the lore implication is that the two moons have no effect on the the oceans are interesting.
yeah ima call it an engine decision. there was a rumor ESO had it but it's either a dead feature or a myth
Awesome job
Thank you 60 Minute Man
@@LeftoverPat no problem are you gonna do more skyrim les mis work because I really liked that concept
I really wish we could have the option of playing the other humanoid forms of khajjit in an elder scrolls game.
God I love this channel
They still used some 9th Century technologies in TES V: Skyrim. But if Elder Scrolls Universe decided not to use the Era Calendar systems like 1st era, 2nd era, 3rd era, 4th era, etc. The year for TES V: Skyrim would probably set in the year 4650. This meant the Elder Scrolls Universe are already 2 Millennia, 26 centuries ahead from us. So I guess, we should time travel to the 1st era. Maybe 1E 2021? However, we don't know what happened in the 1E 2021 as after 1E 1427, it just skipped to 23rd Century in the year 1E 2200. Or the last year of 22nd Century in the 1st Era.
I don't know that I like listening to lore. Thanks for the video!
i'd watch an eso lore video even though i skip all the dialogue in the game
The calendar would be useful for a Pathfinder/D&D Elder Scrolls campaign.
Amazing
I am a eso fan and i'm waiting for eso lore vid
* *pounding bones sounds* * xd
I'm just waiting till gopher appears
mmmm yes explaining fantasy lore with real science is all I ever wanted
speaking of the moons, can you do a video introducing the lunar colonies and the various methods by which some of the races have traveled there? hardly anyone brings up Reman's moth ships, which deeply saddens me.
Doesn't secunda orbit masser? I swear its typically depicted as being closer to nirn (in front of masser) most times but certain charts have it after masser. And visualizing it as a solar system kind of goes against this line in cosmology regarding moon phases: "Mortals perceive this as the moons being spheres with patches of their 'surfaces' completely eaten away; as the moons spin, they seem to become slivers or ragged crescents. These are not caused by shadows, because you can see stars through the black patches of the lunar spheres."
It's supposed to!
By the moons!
Would be cool if elder scrolls 7 would be about stopping the moons from crashing into Nirn
I want to hear about the tides and werewolf vampires!
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You do a compare video of the moons vs our moon and moons of Mars too
Oh hai dere Pat
Eso fan here, yes please
On the one hand, this is all really cool and I honestly love it. On the other hand my worldbuilder brain feels like all this moon phase weirdness, excluding the save game loading weirdness, makes absolutely no sense in relation to how such a double moon system should work in terms of orbital characteristics. It's cool that, excluding that save game weirdness again, there's a clear pattern that repeats over time but it seems completely disconnected from the actual pattern you'd expect to see from two bodies orbiting a central object. I'm trying not to just veer off into info-dump mode and just completely bloat this comment into an entire essay but it's definitely nagging at me and it's hard to not think about. I suppose if anyone's interested I might go ahead and do that but, for now, I'll just end off here and save everyone else the time.
Edit: Okay, so, I hadn't fully watched the last section of this video when I typed this so I'm happy to see the Lunar Lattice section not only covers the phases we should see from a lore perspective but also links to some resources of people who did the work figuring out orbits and such that'd accurately model the movement of the moons such that it makes some sense and fits lore. I probably should have waited for the video to end before writing but, tbh, the video was so close to being over I didn't expect to see anything like that come up. I appreciate it nonetheless though.
yay!
youre amazing
Meee i want to see a bigger lunar project for ESO!
Nice
How about the fact that the empty sections of the moons don't block out the stars at all?
Finally
Keep it up laď
I got really interested in TES moon lore when this vid came out lol
Wait, is the music from Majora's Mask? I think it might be from the Fairy Springs.
I wonder if it's possible to edit the moon positions - would it be possible for a mod to fix the moons so that they follow the calendar as it begins from game start?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Watch the sky
Yay
So according to the in-game moon phases what furstock would a khajiit player be according to the lore in each game?