Breath of the Wild 2: FEAR the Malice!
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- What is the source of Ganondorf's power? Was malice a creation of Demise's curse, or is the truth more terrifying? Breath of the Wild 2 might have the most powerful incarnation of Ganon seen yet...
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Oh no! They know my secret! Uh, untrue! All of it! (There ya go, put em off the trail.)
The Great King of Evil Ganondorf oof sucks to be u the secrets out
Poor ganon
Yeah after losing unfairly to the Dracula this must really suck
Fake News
Don't worry, I believe you. You are my main in Smash Bros.
I think that the fact that his eyes are malice eyes means that all of the malice eyes in botw 1 were him watching you
My friend Croton talked about that around the time of the trailer getting released. I liked the idea of it!
I had a weird theory once in which the malice was an entity taking over hyrule over and over, using the being holding power to do so, and my idea was that the Moon could be one of the vectors of this malice, such as in Majora's Mask or Breath of the Wild...But of course I'm struggling to know if it's completely dumb or if it is plausible...
But I do think we don't pay enough attention to the blood moon.
I mean, after all, we got the promise of a "blood-soaked" sea of darkness...
_Yeah I know I'm probably overthinking it_
This is what I always assumed when I saw the malice eyes in the first game and it never failed to REALLY creep me out.
Hmmm then wouldnt that kinda make Ganondorf basically a more powerful version of Sauron from lord of the rings
@@NintendoBlackCrisis the keeses on breath of the wild also had similar eyes, were they used by ganondorf to watch over the whole kingdom of hyrule?
Thinking of all the Malice pouring out of Ganondorf's body as an indicator of how much hate he is feeling makes the thought of him waking up even more scary
I imagine he's going to be very, very, very, very, very fucking pissed when he wakes up. Not only is he killed by a Link, but the royal family also mummifies his as and keeps him in limbo under their castle for countless centuries, with nothing to do whatsoever. Then he wakes up, in immeasurable pain, and the first thing he sees is another Link.
ainsley toledo yea but at least it will take him a sec to recognize links ince he doesnt wear the old green outfit anymore lol
Welp we are all dead
The entire trailer is so scary, and that neck snap and face is enough to tell he's the angriest he's ever been. It's not rage, it's complete madness
Kinda unrelated, but the "cursed" enemies in the compendium are named "Enemy_GanonGrudge" in the files.
daaaaaang. Thanks for calling that out, friend (°~°)
GOOD JOB ! Such detail is sure to be of much importance
Bugmen Fan That's because in the Japanese version, Demise's curse is not known as a curse, but as a grudge, which is line with the Japanese concept of Yurei and grudges in mythology that the games are inspired by. In fact, the phrase "Demise's curse" is technically a translation error. In his original Japanese speech, he mentions that malice will reincarnate eternally because his grudge is never ending. And cursed Bokoblins are not really cursed, they are just magical Bokoblins full of hatred from the grudge, as seen in the Japanese version. So, it's not unrelated at all. In fact, your finding only confirms the theory and shows that Ganondorf genuinely is the reincarnation of Demise's malice in the form of the Gerudo King.
You'd be surprised by how much lore gets lost due to these mistranslation errors. For example, in BotW, people think Link doesn't love Zelda, or at least that it isn't obvious. But that's only true if you play the English translation. In the Japanese release, Link has his own diary, and he pretty much confirms that he loves Zelda in said diary. After completing the last ancient song from Kass in which he reveals that Zelda loves Link, Link writes in his diary entry "I accept her feelings." This gets lost in translation, because the diary gets cut out of the Adventure Log for the English version.
There are many other things lost in translation too. For example, people think Hyrule is located on Earth because supposedly Aonuma said so, but Aomuma actually never said this. What Aonuma said is that Hyrule is in Chikyuu, a word that is often used to refer to the Earth, but doesn't actually translate to Earth and can refer to other planets as well. It kind of really means "home planet," which makes you realize that Aonuma's answer is intentionally super vague. Similarly, people used to not be aware that A Link Between Worlds is a sequel of ALttP before an official timeline was released. But this is super obvious in the Japanese release since the game is literally called ALttP2.
In summary, we can conclude that translations fuck shit up.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 When you say that Ganondorf is the reincarnation of Demise's Malice does that also mean that he is actually Demise himself reincarnated? 😕 The Hyrule Historia implies as such yet none of the games post Skyward Sword have confirmed wether they are indeed the same entity being reborn through time. 🤔
PS: In Japan A Link to the Past's actual name is "Triforce of the Gods" so technically that means A Link Between Worlds's name would be "Triforce of the Gods 2". Nonetheless thanks for the explanation. 👌😉
Javier Vásquez Yes, I do mean that Ganondorf is the reincarnation of Demise himself. In this sense, one can say that Ganondorf IS Demise, much in the same fashion that we can say Zelda IS Hylia. Most people would disagree, but you have to understand that the reincarnation tradition used in the Legend of Zelda is entirely inspired by the sāmsara cycle in Buddhism. In fact, most of the Legend of Zelda is just an antology of Shinto myths and Buddhist traditions. In Buddhism, the soul is separated from the body. So while we may think of Ganondorf and Demise as dfferent entities because they occupy different bodies, they are the same soul, and if we think of the soul as the defining aspect of a person, then that would indeed imply they are one and the same. This is made less explicit in English than it is in Japanese. Similarly, Zelda just is the goddess Hylia, since Zelda's soul is just the goddess residing in the body of the mortal. Zelda does not have a separate soul that is not the soul of the goddess. She IS the goddess. We simply talk about them as different entities because Americans would be extremely confused if we treated every Zelda as the same Zelda AND also declared Zelda is the goddess, especially because Zelda is mortal. Rather than thinking of them as different people, it is nore accurate to think of them as different manifestations or forms of the goddess. Hence, whenever we refer to Hylia, we REALLY mean her immortal manifestation, specifically, one which presumably does not exist anymore. Then whatever Zelda we are talking about refers to any of the other manifestations. But again, most Westerners would have a difficult time handling and accepting this concept. Hence, they had to sacrifice the loyalty for the source material and a comprehensible plot in order to make the game palatable to Americans as opposed to making them absord raw incorporations of Shinto myths that they don't understand into the game. Oh, and yes, this does also mean every Link technically is the same Link incarnating in different bodies. This is why all the Links reside similar bodies and have similar introverted behavior - some of them do not talk, while others are merely shy. That is easy to understand when you consider they all have the same soul.
It is true that none of the games explicitly state Ganondorf IS Demise... but this is also for most things. In fact, most of the Zelda lore and timeline comes from Hyrule Historia, not the games. If we had to consider the games alone, a timeline simply would not exist, because the games were not designed to fit in a timeline to start with. They are retellings of a legend, or part of a legend. This is why Nintendo has gone with the approach of giving a title to each individual the Legend of Zelda name as opposed to presenting as "the Legend of Zelda 3" or "the Legend of Zelda 7." It is true that "the Legend of Zelda II" exists, but only because it is a sequel to the first game in the franchise. And yes, some games do form sequels of each other, which superficially suggests a timeline. A Link Between Worlds is very obviously a sequel of A Link to the Past, and Triforce Heroes is very obviously a sequel of A Link Between Worlds. Yes, Phantom Hourglass is a sequel of the Wind Waker, as it is pretty much stated in game. However, these sequel packets only really imply that they form pieces of a full legend as opposed to being a legend of their own. The Legend of Zelda and Link's Adventure, TOGETHER, are one of the retellings of the legend. A Link to the Past, A Link Between Worlds, and Triforce Heroes together form another retelling of said legend. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask form yet another retelling. So on and so forth. However, these complete separate legends are not actually related. The OoT-MM duo is by no means related to the ALttP-ALBW-TFH trilogy, and people only see them as related becuse Hyrule Historia claims they are. However, a lot of stuff that did not happen in the games is said to have happened between the two sub-series, to the extent that there are massive time gaps in between. It's Nintendo's lazy way of trying to form a timeline between when there logically is none, and they only do this because many tLoZ refuse to accept the idea of having the games not connected to one another and simply be legends. Again, this is another tragedy that is obtained by having a Japanese game series based entirely on Japanese culture and context trying to cater to American gamers equally.
So really, based on everything said above, you could argue Hyrule Historia is not canon - because it basically is half-assed canon and even Nintendo does not take it seriously - and say that Ganondorf really is a different entity and Demise, because in a more genuine lore in which the Zelda games would be kept separate as they were meant to be, Skyward Sword would have no relationship to Ocarina of Time.
Also, I was aware of ALttP being Triforce of the Gods in Japan, but I didn't think it important to mention. That said, the sequelness of ALBW to said game is obvious from its Japanese title. That it be called Triforce of the Gods does explain why Triforce Heroes is the sequel to ALBW, though. So thank you for mentioning that.
Breath of the wild: The Malice strikes back
Mr Scribbles breath of the wild 2: attack of the clones
Breath of the wild 6: return of the hero
Breath of the wild 3: revenge of the malice
Breath of the Malice: The Awakening
Breath of the Wild 2: Electric Boogaloo
has anyone realized that star fragments look a lot like gratitude crystals
Star bits from SMG & 2? Agreed!
@JudeTDC 5x Whoa never noticed that until now. Yeah they really do look similar.
Based on the Japanese candy, konpeito
Oh so you're saying it's not that his curse created Ganondorf, but that he mentioned his hatred would be used by Ganondorf? & that's definitely true because in "recent games" Ganondorf has been harnessing hatred to become stronger? Oh yea that would definitely add to the sequel becoming the darkest game in the series...
What he is saying is that Malice is not specific to Demise, but it simply crystallizes whenever very strong emotions come into play.
Malice is sick of losing and losing so he took Ganondorfs body and said
*“Finally Ill do it myself”*
Let's hope that the release of Breath of the Wild 2 will give us more information. Enough to possible make a PART 3? ;)
@@WHAT-yl3br No, part 3 for this series of theories lol
That was astounding
my body is ready
NBC i think the game release in 2021 because it took us 2 years until the game realese so I was think the game would realese 2 more years
Rocco b Beauchamp Not really. BotW had to be made completely from scratch, but not the sequel, since the character models and animations have already been created, as his been most of the world. Yes, they do have to modify said models, and yes, they do have to modify the world, but modifying them is much easier than starting from scratch with lines of codes and takes much less time. Also, most of the concept art is already complete and implemented, as are the ideas of what the dungeons and gameplay should be like. At most, they would simply have to improve the mechanics and add features to the game. For example, they may add more outfits, or they might add fishing rods, or underwater swimming. These additions might take the longest amount of time, if they happen, but then again, these wouldn't take as long as building the entire expansive universe from literally nothing. I think the latest we should really expect BotW sequel is early 2021, but it may come even earlier. I guess it ultimately depends on what other games they are working on as well, since that would be a great determinant for how long they take.
Man if Malice Ganon really is just Ganondorf’s hatred, makes me wonder how strong the real Ganondorf will be
I mean hatred can be major fuel for power. Seems to me he can't be all that more powerful since the hatred wasn't restricted by the flesh. It's how it's used with a mind like Ganondorfs is what the problem might be
@@UnifiedEntity It's entirely possible that the Malice is only able to leak out because of the hand holding the wound open.
Nah, Calamity Ganon is his free spirit.
It's Soul Dualism all along.
Since it's techincally Ganondorf's Malice i feel it shouldn't be considered a separate "aspect" of his person. Since it's very nature is fueled by Ganondorf's emotions i feel it only makes sense to consider the Malice AS his very innherent Power that is manifested as a "naturally" secreted substance.
The Malice IS His Power devoid of consciousness.
Short answer: we all dead
Title :fear the malice
Me: I already fear the malice
I fear landing in the middle of a large area of malice with no revali's gale
Simply A Destroyer hah yes same
That actually has a lot of correlations with Zelda 2, now that I think about it. Specifically thinking about all the malice pools with eyes.
"The eyes of Ganon are everywhere" and of course Return of Ganon.
Not sure if it has any relevance but apparently the "Demon Tribe" spoken of in Skyward Sword had already been introduced in the japanese manual of Zelda 2. 😮
Since Demise was stated to be the "source of all monsters" by Fi maybe both Ganon's minions in Z2 and his Malice in BotW are basically the SAME thing manifested in a different way.
I hope Skyward Sword gets an HD remake for the switch soon...
Or wind waker or twilight princess come to the eshop
Samerkia or all 3
bruh majora’s mask
Um they wouldnt make a better version of the first one whn
They are still working on the second part to botw
I want all of them on Switch. Ocarina of time is so hard to play now, the graphics ruin my eyes and give me headaches now.
Ok so, you ever read something then realize how much you need it?
I wonder if this amount of Malice is what happens when you try and prevent Demises reincarnation. Hes not being allowed to cycle so his rage and anger just builds up and builds up.
Ask this time I thought Zelda's "sorry I've overslept" was a meme.
*More reasons I need wind waker on the switch*
I keep hearing rumors that Wind Waker and Twilight Princess will come to the eshop, but tbh I dont think it'll happen soon
@@samerkia I'm still wondering why we haven't had ocsrina of time appear on the switch yet.
just play it on pc duh
@@danielvarela5420 yea I have a spare PC, just need a power supply and a HDD so imma set up an emulation station when I can.
If strong emotions can become sources of energy, then maybe that is how the sheika got their sources of energy?
That might also apply to the Zonai should the Hand also be fueled by their own emotions... 😱
@@javiervasquez8995 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... oh my...
Fitting Title since it is SPOOKTOBER
What if malice could bring back, corpses?
This game is supposed to be the darkest Zelda game so far, so corrupted, rotting, zombies of fallen hyrule knights as an enemy?
I mean Malice was already shown to have the ability to revive dead enemies like these Bokoblin heads etc in the Divine Beasts if you look at their bios.
A d0gg0 imagine link fighting his dad
Maybe ganon will use the power of malice to bring back links family, only they’re corrupted and evil so he’ll have to kill them
Deadhands and Redeads please.
Many believe people have misinterpreted the 'a little darker' quote, he was saying the trailer was a little darker, not the game. I'd love for it to be dark but I feel people that hold on to that might get disappointed.
In Skyward Sword when enemies were destroyed they disappeared in a poof of smoke, only the smoke was purple, and is strangely similar to Ganon's face from Zelda II. Oh, and Koloktos can summon cursed bokoblins meaning the energy powering him has connections to malice.
I noted that in the trailer for BOTW2 that when Ganondorf's head turned it was not fluid as if he was in control. Maybe the time spent stiffened him, but the head jerk he does indicated more of a possession by malice.
Just a few tidbits I have noted.
If malice is hate does that mean instead of dying repeatedly does he need a hug? Is hugging ganon all we need to do to defeat him?
Aftee Being trapped for wut 10,000 of years. You think a guy that only used a puppet to destroy most of hyrule wants a hug?
@@sliceninja4546 yes
Yes he does
This is a joke
Man i wonder well his revived form look just as sick as his hyrule warriors design
So he would be like a Pillarman?
@@aaronolson6736 ayayayayayaay intensify
I think he'll look better. The art direction in botw is way better than Hyrule warriors imo
So you mean that he has so much hatred, because of he is sealed, that it has been leaking out, and that is Malice?
"David! I'm sorry!
I overslept!"
"Death of the Wild" is such a good title that Nintendo will feel obliged to not use it and instead pick something like TLOZ: Evil
death of the wild, breath of the darkness etc. sound so bad in all honesty. Nintendo is definitely more creative with the title names
From a marketing standpoint : Having a similar title might feel like we are buying a D’C or smt
@@gabrielpoupou1479 Because that didn't stop them with A link to the Past, Link's awakening, and A link between Worlds
@@disgustedluigi But "Four swords" isn't?
@@disgustedluigi The difference here being the similarity of the words "Breath" and "Death". Doom and time have no correlation. It also fits thematically as we see in the trailer Luminous stones, containing the could of those who have succumbed to DEATH, and Ganondorf, who appears to have to succumbed to DEATH, suggesting important themes of life and death. And it's not past Nintendo to do that, For A Link to the past a link between worlds, which they called a link to the past 2 in japan, where they just swapped out a few words for the sequel. Plus Ocarina 2 didn't have a subtitle like that because it was a completely different story. If there was a second ocarina that summoned hordes of the dead, then that title probably would've been likely, but it was in fact it's own story. MM was announced as Majoras Mask, not OOT2 placing it as it's own identity. But BOTW2 was announced as BOTW2, suggesting that it ties into the first game more than you appear to think. Between OOT and MM, all we see linking them is that Link met Zelda and was gifted an Ocarina, wheras already from this trailer, we see the links between BOTW and BOTW2 including, but not limited to; Malice, Ganon, the master sword, luminous stones, Zelda etc.
It is both thematically appropriate, and logically sound, to call this game Death of the Wild.
Malice kind of reminds me of Phazon corruption in Metroid - I really like it.
Yeah, basically the same thing but evil and magical.
So... Metroid Prime/Dark Samus = Ganon(dorf)?
I love this dramatic ending changing into Link with cool sunglasses
The Ancient Cistern may be Zelda's most universally acclaimed dungeon.
This makes me so hyped for BOTW 2! Like I can't even imagine what attacks Ganondorf will use in his fight, maybe he'll shrink around with ferce sword strikes while spewing malace around the battle field you have to dodge! Maybe we'll get a dead man's volley referense!? Maybe Ganondorf will actually talk and have a awesome personality (I can hope) 😅
i especially like how breath of the wild always calls it ‘The Malice.’ not simply lowercase m malice, but the Malice. makes it sound sentient or at least a lot more important on its own.
To an extent, the stuff does have a form of sentience, or at least is somewhat alive.
I played the trailer backwards a few months ago, and it sounded exactly like “Battlefield of Demise” from skyward sword.
@Mr MangoBerry Bruh
What That Calamity Ganon Is Just A Distraction And The Real Gqnon Is Only About To Come!?!?
Daannng! Luv, how do you come up with these! They are always spectacular and always have such good reasoning behind them! This channel is amazing, I love it so much!
This channel is so awesome. I can't wait for breath of the wild 2!
Makes you take a second look at all of the Yellow Eyes throughout the series. My mind goes to Majora's Mask and the Moon personally.
Chilling. I love your videos. Keep them coming. I could listen to you talk about Zelda stuff all day.
That buddhist Spider's Thread story was really good.
I love all the research that you put into your theories. Thanks for all you do and keep up the good work!
“Are both pure and shiny” I SEE SHINYNESS IS OF UP MOST VALUE
Breath of the Wild 2: Malice Boogaloo
BOTW shouldn’t answer questions...
You’ll run out of theory videos
👾
No, it should answer the questions but in the subtle way the series reference each games in a respectable way. Then the theorists would be the hyrulian historians
n o
I can’t wait to put my hands on the sequel!!
I'll be disappointed if the Sequel doesn't start with Link Sleeping xD
Maybe it'll start off with Ganon sleeping and then waking up, just as Link did.
what if zelda wakes link up because they have to find ganondorf?
What if it starts with Tingle sleeping
What if when they find Ganondorf he is snoring?
What if it starts with the person who is playing the game sleeping?
Did anyone notice the malice in the trailer when it’s going up stairs and chasing a rat, it looks like hands? Idk thought I’d ask
bro the zelda theories and lore vids you, zeltik, hmk and hyrule gamer put out are the only reasons i’m happy ugh they’re so good
At first I thought I had already seen this video.
NBC ur amazing this goes very well with ur other malice theory keep going ur giving me chills I luv u man
I hope this means BotW 2 will have some horror-esque elements, similar to Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask; that should make the final fight with Ganondorf that much more rewarding!
And thank you for using so much footage from Skyward Sword; I like to be reminded of how beautiful that game is.
Your use of the music from past titles is superb 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻💕💕💕
I have been waiting for this all day I am so excited
Really good video. Amps me up even more for the game!
This always makes me think about possible boss fights in the upcoming sequel. I’ve seen some alternate Blight Ganon designs, and I wonder that what if the corpses of the fallen Champions would be brought to Hyrule Castle and become infected with Malice, becoming grotesque zombie-like warriors for the Gerudo King to sic unto Link and Zelda
Malice it basically its own elements. It can be a solid, a liquid, or a gas
I always figured the Ancient Cistern served three interconnected purposes. First being a mass grave for all of Demise's monsters from his war with Hylia. Second being a filtration system so that any stay malice power or monster parts would pass through and be caught and funneled down to the mass grave. Third being the holding place for Farore's sacred flame. Then Farore's flame in turn is maintaining the purity of the Cistern and keeping the all the malice contained in it's depths. It would also explain why the undead bokoblins are so much stronger under the Cistern but fall after two hits when Kloktos summons them to the top.
Fantastic, FANTASTIC video! I LOVE the idea of Malice in the series, especially with the little tidbits of what creatures are and are not related to it based on their death animations (i.e. Bokoblins are, but Redeads are not).
In fact, despite the fascinating things you delved into here, I feel like it's possible to go even deeper.
"Gratitude crystals" are interesting. I haven't played Skyward Sword (yet), but they might just explain one of the series's biggest themes: Light energy. If, as you say, they are the antithesis, then would it not make sense for the Light Arrows, Sacred Power, and so on, to be of a similar sort? (Specifically since they feature so heavily in the Dark Beast fight.)
"The demon king was born into this world, but his transformation into Malice created the horror you see now." You seem to indicate this refers to Ganondorf becoming the Calamity, but wouldn't it make more sense for this to refer to Demise's Curse, with the literal Demon King's transformation into Malice? This would fit all the scenarios. Demise did not create Malice, but he is the source of the majority of it. The Malice is the curse. And the incarnations just fuel it in perpetuity.
Which would explain Ganondorf quite well. He is a man corrupted by Demise's curse, becoming the physical manifestation of the Malice. But eventually, he was sealed. The Malice leaks out, causing the Calamity.
Super, super cool stuff. Did I mention this was a great video?
Hmmm... if there are Light Arrows... maybe could it be possible for some kind of Dark or Malice Arrows to exist?
Nah, Demise is said to be the source of all monster.
The curse is the Demon Tribe that Ganondorf joined when he became Ganon. He is part of the Curse.
Demise kinda predicted Calamity Ganon when he used the term "evolution".
He knew that the Demon Tribe will repeat what he has done.
Pauly Griffin Demise is the source of all Malice. What NBC failed to consider in the video is that it has been states both in the tLoZ compendia that Nintendo has released and in the games that Demise is the God of the Demon Tribe, which preexisted all of Hyrule. It existed together with all the other gods and goddesses, including Hylia, and they were the only things to exist.
All monsters in the dungeons are creations of said Demon Tribe. Ganondorf is an incarnation of the grudge and hatred of the Demon Tribe, which is exactly what Demise's curse is. This by no means implies is magical power is Malice, it merely implies he is an incarnation of Malice.
As for BotW stating he became into Malice, this is inaccurate and the result of mistranslation. What the King really does say is that Ganon was consumed by Malice, unable to keep his physical form. This, of course, was very cryptic and seemed to not make sense, but it makes perfect sense once you look at the trailer of the sequel. While Ganondorf is simply Malice taking over a body, Calamity Ganon is pure Malice itself and not actually a physical form, and not actually Ganon either.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 Loving the way you're explaining the "true" japanese Lore in such clear simplicity. 😀👍😉 I hope Nintendo WON'T find an excuse to keep Ganondorf in "Malice form" by the end of BotW 2 for i fear that would limit any potential character depth he could have in future installments of the series. 😮😕
Great work on the video, of course Demise's legacy isn't easy to vanquish. Just as good exists, evil will always exist. You know what they say, darkness rises with light to meet it.
If the eyes of the malice are the same as ganondorfs in the sequel trailer, what if Ganondorf was looking through those malice eyes to see what is going on above ground?
Kinda like Sauron in Lord of the Rings don't you think? 😉😏
I always thought of Calamity Ganon as more of a puppet, not the real Ganon but just his malice in a physical form, which would explain why you don't need the Master Sword or Light Bow to destroy him.
The quote “the demon king was born into this kingdom, but his transformation into malice created the horror you see now” implies that malice is or once was ganondorf the demon king or demise
Awesome vid man, seems pretty plausible
You just made me so hyped for the 2nd one.
Just a reminder that the malice in the ancient cistern could be from demise, since the place link goes to 1 on 1 with him is probably the ancient past, as stated, that someone had already fought demise long ago, and that someone could very well be SS Link
Ancient Cistern and Kolotos are my favorite dungeon and dungeon boss in the series. If Skyward Sword was just dungeons and bosses, it would be the best Zelda. Gratitude Crystals made me appreciate Skyward Sword's sidequests even more. BOTW side quests felt like standard RPG missions, many with generic rewards. Skyward Sword felt interconnected and everyone benefited from Link's help. I hope BOTW2 Link and Zelda's presence benefits Hyrule instead of their legacy being stuck in the past like in BOTW.
Gio tLoZ was always intended to be an RPG. Nintendo stated this before and after the release of the first game in the franchise. What made it so different from an ordinary RPG is how nonlinear the series was intended to be, and the fact that the storytelling was very nontraditional as well.
While i would also love to see the same level of "interconnectionallity" present in Skyward Sword as you said i would also most dearingly EMBRACE a "classic narrative style" present in the earlier installments such as in the case of Twilight Princess which i consider to have the BEST STORY in the WHOLE franchise. 😀
I would deeply despise it if Nintendo just decided to YET AGAIN force the player go around the map collecting "memories" INSTEAD of just giving us a coherent and cohesive narrative story in *present time* with overarching characters that *develop* according to their Trials and challenges thrown at them by to plot. 🙁 Hopefully Nintendo will realize that a classic narrative within a game can in fact do WONDERS at making the player actually *relate* to what's happening by having them experience things in the PRESENT. 😐😒 It Beats ALL that memory crap. 😧
It can simply be the best of both having more connections in the great world with more personalised bosses fights quests but also keeping that sense of its a world that will move on if you help or not doesn't matter you are not the center of universe
This video was worthy. Keep it up NBC.
I think(hence the word letter I, just my
Opinion) in botw I think the malice eyeballs are actually the eyes of Ganondorf(figuratively). If you notice they are sorta put into places as “roadblocks” as if set there on purpose as a checkpoint to keep track of someone or something(link). I believe they are eyes giving info to Ganondorf as he waits and gains power, after all Ganondorf would want to know of links progress and powers to gain a hand in defeating him. So in grande theory botw(first one) is a game just to set up something huge in the second game, the take over of hyrule( divine beast, monsters and destruction) was all planned and put into place to slow link down 100years later so Ganondorf could regain powers. Think about it...the game and beast were sorta easy as if they were just tests or something to slow you down... I think botw and calamity Ganon was all a set up for something bigger and the king knows this and this may be what he speaks of when he mentions something about hyrule a dark past. Meh🤷♂️
Kinda like the Eye of Sauron from The Lord of the Rings if you think about it. 🤔
Javier Vásquez ya that’s where I got the idea from...sorta. Currently playing botw again/master mode I think the 11th time i will have completed it and I feel more and more this is the case, I mean what other purpose could the eyes across hyrule in botw be?
@@codyrisling1718 Yeah i mean if you compare both franchises side by side you CAN see some similar themes, characters, Lore, Mythology and history that almost seem to imply Nintendo was willing to "copy" many ideas from Tolkien's Middle Earth. 🤔😕
First there are the "archetypical" main characters which all share traits that are parallel to those found in Tolkien's work:
Link being the Hero character he parallels Heros such as Legolas, Aragorn and also Frodo Baggins.
Zelda is a princess "maiden" similar to the elven Galadriel and also princess Arwen.
And finally Ganondorf who through the series has been given MANY names(similar to a certain character in LotR) including the title of *Dark Lord.* He is clearly a parallel to Sauron and his Master Melkor/Morgoth(who If you ask me could also be seen as an equivalent to Demise).
Both Worlds have magical objects that have an important role within it's Mythology:
The Triforce and the one Ring
The Master Sword and Ringil
Both worlds have a magical group of "Guardians" that watch over the Realm and guard it from evil beings:
The 7 Sages/The 4 Champions and the Order of the Wizards.
The Sage of Light Rauru from Ocarina of Time shares traits with the wizard Gandalf as both characters are extremily wise, both are the leaders within their respective groups and both are basically immortal beings of pure Light and goodness.
Finally you have the races that do also share some similarities with the Tribes found in the Zelda universe:
The Hylians with the Elves
The Gorons and the Dwarves
The Kokiri and the Hobbits
The Deku and the Ents
The Moblins and the Orcs
Zelda has "Death Mountain" which was Ganon's original "Lair" in the first The Legend of Zelda game and LotR has Mount Doom which serves as Sauron's Lair. Both villains have the tendency of being master schemers and manipulators. They're both very good at *corrupting people* and using their powerful Dark magic to wage war against the people of their Realms. 😱💀 To be honest I feel there are many MORE similarities which one could make between Zelda and the works of J.R.R Tolkien but currently i can't think of anything specific at the moment. 🤔😏 Nintendo has clearly taken inspiration on many works of fiction that themselves are inspired by Arthurian legends and tales from the time of the Middle Ages. Because of that i wouldn't be surprised if eventually Aonuma and Miyamoto decided to just go a step further and basically put Ganondorf in the SAME situation as Sauron's at the beggining of "The Third Age" when he became an "All seeing Eye". Like Sauron Ganondorf was also possibly turned into a Zombie right after a major battle against the Royal Family, the Sheikah Tribe and the Zonai. Like Sauron wathever defeat Ganondorf suffered it left Him weakened and that's how the Zonai were able to keep him trapped sealed under the Green Hand. 😮 Maybe the plot of BotW 2 will mimic Lord of the Rings and Link will be tasked with delivering the Hand somewhere in order to vanquish him once more. 🤔😕 Meanwhile Ganondorf will be busy watching Link's journey from afar through the many Eyes of Malice spread across Hyrule. It would definetly be an interesting concept should Nintendo go for a LotR's esque story. 😮 Personally i would LOVE such a game. 😀😁
Javier Vásquez wow that was in depth...ya it’s really easy to see how lord of the rings has inspired a lot of today’s gaming culture and games. Whatever happens with botw2 I don’t think I would care, I just want more Zelda on my switch..only reason I got one is for Zelda games.
@@codyrisling1718 Oh lol got it. 👌😉😅 I personally do enjoy the stories Nintendo is capable of making with the Zelda series so i'm very excited for what could be the best story in the series yet. 😀😁 I just hope they won't blow it again like with BotW 1. 🙁 Having to collect "memories" and watch a bunch of flashbacks was a *terrible* idea to begin with. 😒 It prevented ANY kind of character development for any of the main characters given that they were all already DEAD. 😔 I keep asking myself why they couldn't write a plot that was on par with Twilight Princess's? 😮🤔 That game has the BEST story in the series to date so it should have served as inspiration for the writing of BotW. 😓 ¿Come on Nintendo what happened? 😧 Anyway i'm just rambling lol so i'll stop. 😏
Hope you'll enjoy the game once it gets released. 👍😀 In the meantime have fun finishing your 11th run of the game in Hard Mode. 👌😉
I just had an idea about the Zelda timeline.
Do you know the following idiom: History is repeating itself?
Do you think that in this case the events of Ocarina of time could happen again but with an alternative ending?
In this way Hyrule would show signs of all timelines without the need to fuse the timelines.
If you have problems to understand what I mean I recomment the anime LOST SONG from which I got the idea in the first place.
I've been looking for a good anime to watch. I'll start it tonight thanks for the recommendation. 👌
@@Legendblade86 You're welcome.
@JD Miller have you seen Hunter X Hunter my man?
@@sonymicronin no yet but it's on the list.
well, the new timeline theory is that botw happens so far down the timeline that all 3 timelines happened anyway so...
It would also seem that actions create light or darkness. The ill intent and anger harbored inside the bad guys and causing bad things to happen might also generate malice. The inverse also seems apparent with how link recieves physical manifestations of peoples happiness/ goodness of heart, for doing heroic deeds.
Off topic and I can't remember if you covered this in a video already BUT!!!
The Fused Shadow in Twilight Princess is fully covered in Zonai symbols. I remember a while ago there was theory that the interlopers were the Sheika turned Twili but now with BOTW they're still brining new elements such as Zonai. It even says the interlopers were powerful in magic, as the Zonai speculatively are. ~nya
With him being filled with this much hatred, I can definitely see how BOTW 2 is darker than Majoras Mask.
This could even be an world ending threat.
I think this really works especially if you pair it with the idea that the green magic from the hand is a form of courage as it’d mean Link will need to unite wisdom and courage and either conquer of utilise power (in the form of malice) to defeat this great evil
It's probably important to point out that the word malice in the evil crystal description isnt capitalized or anything. Therefore, its referring strictly to the idea of malice, not the actual, physical thing from Botw.
Because the physical thing didn’t exist yet
@@quantumstormgames2741 no shit
Thank you so much for making another video
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Ah...thank you for saying that the english version of BOTW had that translation error. So many others talk about that error as though its correct.
I'm really hoping that Malice gets some good use in the sequel. It was such a cool concept in BOTW, and I hope we something terrifying come from it.
Imagine the emotions of all the people of Hyrule are used to finally end the curse. If malice is negative energy, maybe the sheer positive energy of the people of hyrule and the Triforce combined will be enough to kill this malice-inflicted Ganondorf. Also they could definitely use this positive/ negative energy thing to FINALLY let us see ZeLink
X14 Nomis Actually, ZeLink is already canon in BotW. This may seem false if you play the English translation of the game, but nobody cares about translations, we card about the source material, which is the Japanese release of the game. In the game, Link has a diary, and all the entries in the Adventure Log are written by him in first-person. After Kass gives you the last ancient song in which he reveals Zelda unlocked her powers because of her love for Link, Link writes in the diary entry that corresponds to this quest "I take in her feelings." Also, the true ending that occurs if you have all the memories has petals of the Silent Princess falling as Link runs towards Zelda, which also confirms it. Will we see them kiss? Probably not, but Nintendo made sure to let the Japanese players know they love each other.
The diary entry for the ancient song is not the only entry that talks about Link's feelings for Zelda, but it is the most direct entry. There are other entries in which he says things like "She is so beautiful" and "I want to see her smile one more time," this last one is the diary entry that accompanies the entry for the Destroy Ganon main quest. And this entry is the reason we see Zelda smile at the end of the game in the secret/true ending, and then Link running towards her.
You should check out the Japanese text dump. Link has a whole personality of his own in this game, and the English version just entirely removes this for some unexplained reason.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 So that's what the true ending meant. Was always curious. Thanks for the info.
I'm ALL for your idea of having "emotions" being the means with which Link and Zelda will be able to defeat the Calamity but i just CAN'T agree with the idea of killing off Ganondorf FOREVER. 😕🙁
That would take away the core thematic conflict of the franchise and that only would make one wonder what could you do with tu franchise afterwards. Ganondorf MUST remain the MAIN villain of The Legend of Zelda otherwise you're taking away on of the 3 "key elements" that sustains the "meta narrative" of the Zelda universe.
Man, the design of Ganondorf in Twilight Princess is my favourite by far.
“David” threw me off of the Zelda vibes.
The most terrifying Ganon, but i bet we can still distract him with a fishing rod =P
Why does this make me shiver
those gratitude crystals kind of look the star fragments
Really good theory. Loved the video
Love this video!!!
The song at the end, oh boy sounds really epic and dark.
AHHHH FINALLY YES IVE WAITED SO LONG AHHH
Like the music in this episode (bells at the end)
jeez, this is deep....great work...
I was already excited for the sequel..but NOW...now I fear my uncontrollable excitement may manifest. Into what, you may ask? That is yet to be known
Amazing video
It seems highly likely that after Ganondorf proved even the Twilight realm couldn't hold him, it was decided that he should be imprisoned at the moment of his death to prevent him returning. Then, after some time passed being trapped trapped like that, his hatred became Malice and overflowed. Seeing how much power he had, the Sheika likely devised a way to drain him of that power, hoping it would prevent another incident. In case it did, they used that energy to create the Guardians and Divine Beasts. Since that would make Malice the raw, unrefined form of energy used, that would explain why Ganon was so easily capable of corrupting them with it (they're machines, not monsters).
It could also have been the Zonai who actually did the Sealing through the Green Hand meanwhile the Sheikah supported the Zonai and the Royal Family with defensive Technology just in case that Ganondorf would ever achieve the Power(or the emotion) to break free of his Seal. They(all 3 groups) might have worked together in order to keep him trapped below Hyrule Castle.
@@javiervasquez8995 It could have been the Zonai, yeah, but the hand does have a Twili vibe about it. I could see the Sheikah creating something so taboo before I could see the Zonai doing it. I think, if anything, it was their idea to seal him this way, and the Sheikah implemented it.
@@goatplissken That does sound like a probable scenario. 🤔👍😮 If the Ganondorf in the trailer is in fact the same one that got stabbed with the Master Sword at the end of Twilight Princess then perhaps it might have indeed been the Twili who somehow managed to help the RF and the Sheikah keep him in a sealed state. I don't know how they would interact with the Light World after TP though given that Midna shattered the Mirror of Twilight at the end of the game.
@@javiervasquez8995 As far as I can imagine it, the Twili can't come back without being really uncool about it (meta much). However, the Sheikah were connected to the Twili before their banishment. It would make sense that the Sheikah low-key kept some of the secrets the Twili discovered, with Hylia's blessing, for a scenario like this. Given that Ganondorf had been through the mirror, a Twili seal could have been deemed necessary. Maybe soul leaching is Twili tech (10/10 chance that's what got them banished), and it's use was deemed necessary by all parties, including Hylia.
I noticed you mention how the eyes look like the eyes of malice, but not something else. Those eyes pop *into* place, almost as if the inverse of eyes of malice popping *out* of existence. Perhaps after you remove the golden gauntlet (or rather after link removes it) it allows Ganons body to be fully corrupted? As I am of the belief that this cut scene takes place in the distance past, at the first birth of calamity Ganon, perhaps this is what the King refers to as "...his transformation into malice..."?
Hey Nbc. Looking forward to the video!
Basically calamity ganon isnt a reincarnation of demize. Its just hatered leaking out of Ganon given form. In BOTW you are essentially fighting Ganons evil fart ^^
I think it would be hilarious if at the very second ganon truly awakens link just shoots an ancient arrow from a boko bow and kills ganon immediately.
the majoras mask last night midnight theme at the end..... nice
Great theory man. =) I enjoy a documentary of Ganondorks Family tree! Maybe Nintendo's working on a spin off of the Legend of Zelda called "Hatred of Ganondorks: Lust For Power"
Bro, I love ur vids
I love all of your videos and I’m sad I already watched them all 😂😂
One small thing though. The majority of Skyward sword takes place in the present. However there are times where Link goes 100? (Its been a while since I played the game) years into to past. That is where he fights Demise in his true form. Not as the imprisoned. So technically the temple could have been built in the time between Link's fight with Demise in the past and the time where he explorers it in the present. Keeping the fact that Mailice came from him intact
do you ever think that Nintendo watches vids on youtube like "write that down WRITE THAT DOWN!" lore created.
a little recap of all malice theorys with an conclusion to the end... this kinda feels like a path to a BIG next malice theory.
I wonder how the Zelda fan base would have reacted if they would have added the gratitude and Malice crystals back in as well as having baxtrix come back but have him beyond some extremely hard to get to sky Islands it could basically be that he's a mortal and he has always been around just in the sky and due to the malice erupting even shook the sky which made them fall back down