life force =spirit energy courage , sheikah energy blue force wisdom, malice red force body.I also think life force has different types of ouput light and darkness one of them,but i don't know which of the three powers determines the output style of the spirit energy.
Linebeck is honestly one of my favorites. He was a coward but in the end he stood up to Bellum, stabbing him because it was the right thing to do. Linebeck was brave and deserves all the medals
@@mawinstallation6626 Parasites don't always kill the host, they usually don't. It can actually be better for them if they don't, since without the host they die. Unless of course death of the host is part of the parasite's life cycle, and is required for reproduction. Despite being called Parasites, Metroids are actually predators. They don't ever live in or on the host for extended periods of time, they simply kill them quickly. In theory they could be parasitic toward large life forms, or ones with large amounts of energy, but they were created to kill the X parasites (which also aren't parasites, but could be classified as parasitoids since their cells are capable of developing within a host organism for a time before become full X and consuming the host)
Hawk Pants True but he had enough resources to keep sucking vital energy from living beings around him while hiding in the deepest area of the Ocean Temple, making sure he’d never be found while he was absorbing life energy, that’s beyond maliciousness to me.
it's cute, but meaningless Tetra is a reincarnation of many Zelda's that came before her. WW is pretty much the only place where she adopts a different name.
Broockle You missed the point entirely. The whole joke is that most fans are not aware of the fact that Tetra is Zelda. They either never went that far into the game, or they played the game too long ago and forgot it.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ......rly? It's so obvious even if you don't play to the end. I'd think as fanatic as fans usually are most people would know that. Srr. Didn't consider that at all.
As a little kid, I played Phantom Hourglass and Twilight Princess. TP never scared me, but Phantom Hourglass gave me serious nightmares and I was scared to go boating with my family, thinking we might encounter the ghost ship. My older sister made fun of me for years after that. 😂
And please dont forget the little fact, that within breath of the wild, we only could handle the Master Sword, when we got enough heart containers. In other words: if we dont have enough life force within us, we will die while handling this artifact!
Phantom Hourglass having a Demon draining the Life Force of a God and Spirit Tracks having it's Demon King shackled to the land itself by the same kind of energy.
Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda and I remember drawing Bellum all the time when I was a kid because he looked so cool (I also remember humming the ghost ship's theme in the streets, that song stayed in my head)
Mine was four swords, i started playing it by around 2014 or 2015 since i was into Mario, Minecraft and some Sonic games by 2012 to 2013 and 2014. And right now, i think the The Legend of Zelda series is the best series of Nintendo.
by comparission majora seems even scarier i think: as majora seems to be the ONLY evil entity that never sought out the life force, neither as triforce, gratitude or any other powers similar or same to it. It was already powerful enough O_O
Pardon me, but I just came up with a theory. What if malice-like powers are just the basic powers of demons and other magics may be just be learned? Bellum needed to put his entire form into possessing the ghost ship while Ganon was able to send blasts of malice to possess the sheikah tech in Hyrule. This leads me to believe that the power of the malice used by a demon correlates to the power of the demon making/using it. "A simple yet quite unbreakable spell" in Ganon's case while Bellum is presumably not as powerful as this universe's version of Satan/Lucifer .
How much did it cost? I know the two main sellers of capture cards for the 3DS went out of business or stopped making boards, and used units go for a fortune on eBay.
You know, if you really think about it.... Phantom Hourglass is almost a retelling of Link's Awakening. >Link washes up on an island. >He kills monsters all connected to one, dare I say, nightmarish entity. >One of the people you've been trying to help get his lifeforce back is a giant whale. >The ending shows Link believing it was a dream, but sees something that indicates it was real. In PH case, it's Linebeck's ship while in LA he sees a seagull while hearing Marin's song. >As you pointed out, Phantom can mean Dream, especially since Bellum is known as a "Dream Demon". There's probably a lot more I'm missing.
In links awakening it all was just a dream, the island never actually existed and only seemed to because the windfish was forced to sleep. Where in PA it seems the world was actually real, but some sort of alternative world I guess? I can see the parallels, but there's many differences too tbh.
You know who’s scarier than Bellum ? The entity who created Bellum. Yes, remember what happened when you defeat Bellum ? He turned back into life sand. The ocean king said that Bellum used his sand to create monsters. So Bellum is himself a « creation » of sand. So there’s someone who has created him first. Someone enough strong to confront the ocean king and possessing the same power as Bellum to absorb life force.
@@lordtachanka5512 No Your talking about Villain that we see in a different game and timeline. Heck another world. No way Majora is somehow in the world of the ocean king
@@sliceninja4546 But Majora is an ancient evil entity. Link's adventure to Termina may have only happened in one timeline, but that doesn't mean the villains just cease to exist. I don't think it was Majora either, but just saying.
It doesn't necessarily has to be evil either, it could be a corrupted creation from a benevolent entity like the Great Deku Tree or a Fairy or something similar.
I was thinking the same thing! Bellum is just a creation of some stronger being we have yet to see, but whatever it is, it's probably stronger than anything we've seen so far.
I clocked in so many hours on PH-mostly because no matter how hard I tried, only every 100th attempt at drawing an hourglass in the Bellum fight actually worked 😭
There’s a reply on this thread that shows up in my notifications but mysteriously isn’t here when I come to read the whole thing but to clarify for anyone who may have had this thought: I was drawing a figure eight just like the game said. Not the hourglass on the door shape from earlier in the game. It actually ended up being my DS-when I got a DSi and tried it then, it worked every time. So. If you were playing a DS lite it’s possible your bottom screen was worn out/had dead zones like mine apparently did
Phantom Hourglass was not only my first Zelda but my first video game, period. Bellum scared the shit out of me, being an unknowable Cthulu-esque monster.
It just occured to me, we do fight something that is sucking the life-force out of a creature and it literally has a weakspot of just an eye.... Ghoma.
This was the first Zelda Game I ever played, I remember that it was a summer day, I was staying at my grandma’s house, and she got a bunch of returned DS games, and this was the first game of those I played, and I loved it
Really makes it feel like the developers had previous games in mind, and didn't just invent them for the game. The universe expanding not only in width, but in depth.
bellum's always been my favorite villain. he goes down swinging, first he fights you, runs away because he knows he cant beat you and you have to chase him down, then when you catch him he commits to a last stand. epic imo
Assume the Sands of Hours is the physical manifestation of life force and the purple goop in Breath of the Wild is the physical manifestation of Malice. What if all beings are made of life force, but in evil beings such as Ganon or Bellum, some of that life force is transformed into Malice? This would explain why in at least Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild (those being the only Zeldas I’ve played personally), when you kill enemies or bosses they die in a sort of purple explosion. In Phantom Hourglass, they also explode into the Sands of Hours. These bursts of material are their Malice and life force leaving the dead monster.
I’m not sure if this is present in the main game. Since I am yet to play it. But Bellum is even more terrifying in the Phantom Hourglass manga SPOILERS FOR THE MANGA! It’s really good, so i recommend reading it. The ghost ship wasn’t made by Bellum, but cursed by him. And it was the ship where Linebeck worked. When it got cursed, Linebeck took the only escape boat and left the rest of the crew to wander the cursed ship forever. Which was why Linebeck wanted to find the ghost ship. Since he left his friends there to die. It was actually really gruesome and graphic and made Bellum even more terrifying
It’s kinda cool to see one of my favorite games on the ds get a theory. Bellum always seemed kinda unique as far as Zelda enemies go but it does seem reasonable that he would share some connection to familiar foes, power-wise
I wasn't super convinced throughout the video, although I thought it was a really fun theory. Then you mentioned that last detail and it kinda pushed me over the edge, very well executed!
I love the Ocean King's theme in the outro. It's one of the most underrated themes in the Zelda series. Also, by your logic, the Triforce itself would be a form of life force, the life force of the goddesses and, by definition, the most powerful manifestation of life force to ever exist, so powerful that it can grant any wish.
Bit of a wild tangent, but I like to think I have an idea of where Bellum came from. It's possible that Bellum was just a normal squid at one point. As we know, time spent in the realm of the ocean king is not the same as time spent in the world of Hyrule. It's possible that it could be an afterlife for those at sea, however so much time has passed, it's just 'life' for the people there, not the 'afterlife'. Oshus, the Ocean King, was possibly worshipped as a shepherd who would gather souls lost at sea and bring them there. It's possibly why there's so much hourglass symbolism in the temple - reminiscent of Death's hourglass. When time runs out, you are claimed by death. Oshus, however, arrives at that moment to bring you to his realm, where people can live in peace. And what source of malice died out at - or rather under - the great sea? Ganondorf. In the time spent between the end of Windwaker and the beginning of Phantom Hourglass, Ganondorf was probably brought to the realm of the ocean king, and with him, his malice. Something went wrong, however, and that malice worked to inhabit a form that could drain life force. Once it found a suitable host, Bellum, it latched on and changed it, feeding on smaller prey until it was strong enough to take on the Ocean King himself. At that point, he fed. Fed to spread the malice, the influence he had. Once he had enough power, he made the ghost ship to travel between the realms and steal more souls, and eventually Tetra, like you said. This could have been an intelligent choice to actively seek out Zelda, and reclaim the power that was once in Ganondorf's hands. With that, he may have been strong enough to return to the realm of Hyrule, with far more souls to feed upon.
So happy to see that finally one of the big guys started covering the lesser known Zeldas. Hope you continue covering more of them, the big ones have been over covered by now, imo. Id like to see some regarding Zelda II esp.
I am SO glad you made this! Phantom Hourglass was the first Zelda I ever played and I've always seen it as so mysterious and an untapped source of lore so this video is something I'd been looking for for years!
This remains one of my favourite theories. The DS Zelda's go severely underrated, and this pulls everything together, I can't help but keep returning to this whenever I need something to watch 🙏
A very interesting look at a villain that probably should get mentioned more. And the whole force concept does tie into the greater Zelda story overall. A fun thing that looking into one game like this just continues to draw connections to a variety of others. Obviously wouldn't be much fun if Bellum won, but it's a good discussion.
I absolutely ADORE phantom hourglass!! I suppose I’m biased since it was my first game you know??? All the happy childhood nostalgia . Anyway I’m just so happy to see it get more recognition recently.
the way phantom hourglass is the only other zelda game i played ever so far other than botw which i just started weeks ago yet i was so OBSESSED with that game as a child omg and i recently found out that this is actually one of the most unpopular games in the fandom which kinda makes me sad :(
And here I thought the theory was that Bellum was sucking the life out of the Wind Fish, who in turn, dragged Link into the dream to save him from Bellum before it was too late. A Bellum that can suck life energy from dreams is truly terrifying!
I thought phantom hourglass was so addicting. But when I finally faced bellum it was definitely creepy to see him possess someone. Ganondorf did it when he possessed Zelda, but for some reason it was creepier in phantom hourglass
Wait... Was that it? Has Life Force / Light Force been the missing 4th Triforce piece this entire time? The power of the gods is incomplete without the power of mortals!?
NintendoBlackCrisis Not quite. While you did mention that the Light Force and Life Force are implied to be the same given the Japanese name, this would be canonically, since it would imply a contradiction. The Gratitude Stones, which according to your theory, are a crystallization of Life Force, existed at least since the events of Skyward Sword. However, the Light Force originates from the Minish in the Minish Cap, who have only been shown to exist in this game. Since the events of the Minish Cap occur centuries after those of Skyward Sword, at least according to the official encyclopedia by Nintendo, this would mean the Light Force would not have existed for as long as the Life Force. Furthermore, even if they were one and the same force, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Triforce. In Japanese, the Triforce is simply known as Toraiforsu, which is the Romaji for the Japonification of the word, and as such, it has no semantic connections to the Japanese word for force used in the games, especially because even if Force were just to be Forsu, Torai is not a real Japanese prefix, making it semantically meaningless. This, combined with the fact that the existence of the fourth Triforce piece has been deconfirmed, is simply sufficient to show that there is no real connection. At least not yet, anyway. Maybe the sequel to Breath of the Wild will change this, but until this happens, there is no affirmative conclusion to be made here. At best, if you can indeed establish for sure that the Light Force and the Life Force are just one and the same, all this proves is that there exists an essence known as Malice, and another known as Force, and the former originates from the Demon Tribe, and the latter from the Goddess Tribe. And this is a significant discovery, but not quite anything like the confirmation of the "missing piece of the Triforce." If anything, the triangle in the middle that is empty is simply a consequence of the geometry of triangles. There is no way to group three equilateral triangles to form a composite, larger equilateral triangle with such a gap. And since the shape of the Triforce is supposed to reflect its relationship to the triforce pieces, this is the only shape it could have taken in. Calling it another piece is interesting, but a big stretch, as you yourself have discussed in previous videos.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 well yeah. All of this makes sense from a rational point of view, but nintendo has not make sense of a coherent, logical plot devices, they are trying as best as they can to reboot the lore retelling with BoTW... thats why its in its own timeline.Although I understand that to make an affirmative conclussion is not entirely reasonable, Nintendo has always gone their way... in short, making an affirmation even it it doesnt fit cannon is still valid as a theory, otherwise the story could be easily predicted. Its very likely that nintendo will use a plot device that is not enitrely coherent with previous canonic data, just to push the franchise gameplay where they want...just an opinion. They are not just going to tell you a conclusive story easily as it a very large part of zeldas selling put its in fact its ambiguous, mysterious, incoherent fragments that hook the lore nerds, casual or not, to the game.
I think instead of the missing fourth piece, it’s just the combined general power of the golden goddesses, or perhaps the power of Hylia. I think this could explain where the power behind the light arrows comes from, and also the light sprits from Twilight Princess (who might be physical manifestations of life force themselves).
Bellum is kinda like the early version of Calamity Ganon. Chaotic, hungry for power, but lacking the sentience and wit of Ganondorf, yet still having the power mad capability of creating armies.
For such a light-hearted Zelda Game like Phantom Hourglass, Bellum is definitely one of the darkest villains in the franchises. (He's up there with Majora)
Also, when you run out of sand of time, you just take damage meaning the temple is taking you LIFE force Oh no, I just realized that your carrying Oshus in your pocket all the time
Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game, so, I'm really glad to see a theory on the first Zelda Villain I ever faced! Tho man this goes so deep! Makes me wanna replay Phantom Hourglass but I feel like I can't see it the same way now XD
Yes!! Finally an in depth video on the DS titles! People always write these games off as too simple or having aged poorly... I’m grateful to you for recognizing them :D *imagine I’m giving you a force gem right now*
The manga adaption gives Bellum some self-awareness, yet still carries out his atrocities to fuel his sadistic appetite. Even after taking his life force, Bellum would still drain more from Oshus, slowly killing him. Forced out of Linebeck's body, Bellum would drag the Ocean King down further into the depths of the sea in an attempt to kill him.
This is my favourite theory of yours so far! Not only did you talk about phantom hourglass but you tied up the force gems! Maybe even my favourite Zelda theory!
I love seeing so many fellow DS game fans! I've gotten a lot of flack from people for the sole reason of LIKING them, and I'm glad to see that others started in this series just like I did. I wish the adult timeline got more love; I'm writing a novelization of the games.
Phantom hour glass was my first Zelda game, and first real game aside from asteroids, so no matter how crappy the graphics, how boring the gameplay, or how unimportant to the story, it will always hold a special place in my heart...
Something that i always asked myself: could Bellum just straight up be vaati? probably not but imho its an interesting thought none the less and they do share a motivation and similar looks. and the origin and whereabouts of vaati are still one of the most mysterious things in all of zelda to me. the problem with this theory is there is no real explanation how vaati (or parts of him) could have ended up in that parallel world of phantom hourglass. then again we dont even really know anything about that world anyway.
My first and favorite zelda game was phantom hourglass and it's hard to describe but it was really important to me cause it was that first game that made me feel that really special kind of childlike wonder that was just in awe of the wide open that was yours to explore and travel through and just staring at that opening screen and diving into a journey that was equally beautiful as it was terrifying
Well, this definitely backs up his far more monstrous adaptation in the Phantom Hourglass manga, that's for sure. I have this small theory that Bellum and Malladus both only came into play because Ganondorf, the physical reincarnation of Demise's malice, was permanently killed off in the Adult timeline, thus opening that particular timeline to an evil power vacuum that demons were scrambling over each other to fill, and Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass Link breaking the cycle ultimately created more problems than he actually solved by repeatedly perma-killing these powerful demons since he leaves room for some other ultimate evil to come in. That's just me, though.
For all we know, seeing as Bellum disappeared like any of the other created monsters, he was one himself. Maybe poor Vaati, atvthe bottom of the ocean, was trying to send out demons to regain power for him lol
Phantom Hourglass was the first Zelda game I ever played, and what launched my love of games. Say what you will, it does have faults, but I never would've discovered my favorite game series, and Windwaker, my favorite game. Plus, I'm hoping to become a game developer. All because of Phantom Hourglass. Fun fact: it's also Eji Aounuma's favorite Zelda game.
I love this game-- it was my first Zelda game ever... A lot has changed since I started being a Zelda fan, but this game brings back such good memories...
When you feel like a Zelda theory nailed something. I think this is pretty solid. How many games have connections. SS, MC, FS, Oot, FSA, PH, ST, and there could be others as well. It could also quite possibly be how MM gained so much power, but I don't have any evidence to back that up, but considering that the triforce isn't once listed. In fact, for the FD mask, it says that it is as if "all the memories of the people in termina" are in the mask. The Fused Shadows absorbed Zant, so it could be that too, but honestly I can't say. The one timeline that this has taken a back seat on is the downfall timeline, also Wind Waker. The triforce could also be part of the life force of the gods. Actually now that I think about it, there is one game in the downfall timeline, one that received a very recent remake. Link's awakening. Koholint island very well could be created by the Wind fish's life force. I know it's a dream of the wind ship, but then how did link end up there. It is another world created by the wind fish in his sleep, and his life force was drained to make the island, keeping him asleep.Perhaps the instruments were major pieces of his life force and at a certain point, he has enough life force to take back the rest of it. Unless you get the true ending, in which case Marin stays. Most of this is just baseless speculation, but still.
Maybe when the sword in botw drains links health it’s reviving a small portion of its power and the fact that it doesn’t have the power of the sages or other heroes that have been linked to the sword is why even after being fully awakened requiring link to be even stronger it holds its power longer but not indefinitely and you could also say the embodiment of hylia Zelda using her power to seal Gannon means that the sword isn’t necessarily able to use her strength as she’s used most of it herself
My first ever game was phantom hourglass so I always kept both PH and spirit tracks in my heart, loved them so much and I still have the ds lite limited edition PH link game cases 🤣 thank you for making Bellum shine
Wow. Just wow. I was expecting this to be a smaller scale theory, but I was blown away as you connected to the other games of the series. Absolutely amazing, and by the end of this video, it became one of your trademark theories. Way to go!
The way we will beat the malice in botw 2 is by helping others, and using it on malice. Just like in Kirby, using friendship and happiness to destroy evil. Batreau is proof of this, as the gratitude crystals helped him be more human. And we will need to collect a lot of it to stop malice, and we will need the help of ganandorf.
You could even connect this to the triforce by saying that the triangle shaped light force coming from Zelda in the minishcap would have been Hylia's version of a piece of the triforce. We know from the legend that each piece was created from a goddess when they left the world. Each piece has atleast a fragment of their power, and as this theory goes life force = a form of power in the zelda series.
The ds games were my first zelda games and I love them so much! I feel like they don't get the recognition they deserve, but it might be because they mean so much to me 😁😅
Did you just make the Zelda Theory of Everything?! Seriously this connects to everything!
Tbh this felt like the beginning of a NintendoBlackCrisis cinematic universe 🤣
The Zelda theory
life force =spirit energy courage , sheikah energy blue force wisdom, malice red force body.I also think life force has different types of ouput light and darkness one of them,but i don't know which of the three powers determines the output style of the spirit energy.
NintendoBlackCrisis wait, do the colors of life force properly match up to the triforce goddesses?
Blue: wisdom; green: courage; red: power
That includes the power that BotW Zelda and her predecessors (grandmother and mother) held.
Linebeck is honestly one of my favorites. He was a coward but in the end he stood up to Bellum, stabbing him because it was the right thing to do. Linebeck was brave and deserves all the medals
i feel the same, hes one of my fav side characters, the development of his character is so genuine and real
Second best after Midna
The saddest thing is you can hear his theme within the final boss theme
and then he got possessed and tried to kill Link. oh well, A for effort🤣
@@DerangedIntellectual9 okay bruh look we can overlook that tiny little detail 😂😂
"Its a parasitic lifeform, leaching off of its hosts until they are lifeless corpse." So what your saying is that Bellum is just an overgrown metroid
He literally described what a parasite is.
@@mawinstallation6626 Parasites don't always kill the host, they usually don't. It can actually be better for them if they don't, since without the host they die. Unless of course death of the host is part of the parasite's life cycle, and is required for reproduction.
Despite being called Parasites, Metroids are actually predators. They don't ever live in or on the host for extended periods of time, they simply kill them quickly. In theory they could be parasitic toward large life forms, or ones with large amounts of energy, but they were created to kill the X parasites (which also aren't parasites, but could be classified as parasitoids since their cells are capable of developing within a host organism for a time before become full X and consuming the host)
And like likes
So maybe Metroid is bellum
And my in-laws
Hey buddy.
_All_ eyes are weak to arrows.
A few are even weak to deku nuts
@@rejvaik00 *deez nuts
Even fake ones on walls
Chris Hanline Even my own.
I laughed a little too hard at this
Aww YEAH!!! FINALLY someone's talking about Phantom Hourglass!!!!
Awesome!!!
Yeah ikr
pogg i love Hourglass.
My first Zelda,and a memory of my friend.
I'm still waiting for spirit tracks theories.
I always referred to that final form as “The Beckoning Phantom”
This is way cooler than anything I could have come up with. You officially get ten internet points.
More like "The Beckoning Linetom".
...I'll just see myself out, lol.
Good name. You get 69 bobux
You get 420 cool boy points, nice name for the boss
**Bellum's* Beckoning
😎😎😎
Thank God someone recognizes Bellum as an evil mastermind, loved his design... I wish he was mentioned along with Malladus in Botw sequel
Linkendy he never said that Bellum was a mastermind, in fact he said the opposite, he said Bellum was just a wild animal
I hope the Anouki make a comeback
Hawk Pants True but he had enough resources to keep sucking vital energy from living beings around him while hiding in the deepest area of the Ocean Temple, making sure he’d never be found while he was absorbing life energy, that’s beyond maliciousness to me.
Linkendy That’s just preservation instinct, prolly
he wasn't really a mastermind. he felt like a force of nature
“Tetra, better known as Princess Zelda.”
Nah nah nah, Princess Zelda better known as Tetra.
Anime King True. I swear most fans are not even aware that Tetra is Princess Zelda.
it's cute, but meaningless
Tetra is a reincarnation of many Zelda's that came before her.
WW is pretty much the only place where she adopts a different name.
Broockle You missed the point entirely. The whole joke is that most fans are not aware of the fact that Tetra is Zelda. They either never went that far into the game, or they played the game too long ago and forgot it.
@@angelmendez-rivera351
......rly?
It's so obvious even if you don't play to the end. I'd think as fanatic as fans usually are most people would know that.
Srr. Didn't consider that at all.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 tetra? That's a funny way to spell shiek 2.0
As a little kid, I played Phantom Hourglass and Twilight Princess. TP never scared me, but Phantom Hourglass gave me serious nightmares and I was scared to go boating with my family, thinking we might encounter the ghost ship.
My older sister made fun of me for years after that. 😂
Your older sister was right.
SERIOUSLY HOW DO PEOPLE NOT FIND BLIZZETA SCARY?!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to be scared of the ghost ship
@@goldenhydreigon4727What about the Twilight?
And please dont forget the little fact, that within breath of the wild, we only could handle the Master Sword, when we got enough heart containers. In other words: if we dont have enough life force within us, we will die while handling this artifact!
Which is also true of the Magic Sword in Zelda 1
Comma splice!
So happy you’re giving some recognition to the DS games, I personally love PH and ST and I’m glad you liked em as well :)
I was gonna say the same ive never seen anything about them really and they are hidden gems if you can deal with the stylus 😆
still remember Christmas 2009 when i got spirit tracks. good times
Doragon Kuesto
Phantom Hourglass having a Demon draining the Life Force of a God and Spirit Tracks having it's Demon King shackled to the land itself by the same kind of energy.
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are underrated.
Phantom Hourglass is my first zelda game and got me into the series, also Linebeck is best boi
Linebeck is DEFINITELY a contender for the best character ever. If it weren’t for Ralph and Ravio he’d be unrivalled.
LORDOFDRAGON555 same here my dude. I got good memories since this is a childhood nostalgia game right here haha
Linebeck really was an amazing partner
Like his character progression was some of the best I've seen, besides Midna and Ravio
PH is also my first Zelda game!
Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda and I remember drawing Bellum all the time when I was a kid because he looked so cool (I also remember humming the ghost ship's theme in the streets, that song stayed in my head)
Omgg i alsoo used to draw bellumm omggg xD
Ah, my first LOZ game. Definitely an underrated game. Let’s see what you got!
It was my very first zelda game too :D
hey me too!
Mine was four swords, i started playing it by around 2014 or 2015 since i was into Mario, Minecraft and some Sonic games by 2012 to 2013 and 2014. And right now, i think the The Legend of Zelda series is the best series of Nintendo.
And yes, i started playing mayor games like the ones i mentioned when i was 11 since i was born in 2001 and wasn’t into these types of games.
Me too :’D I remember rushing to the store when Spirit Tracks came out, having just finished PH
cere *bellum*
a part of the brain that controls survival instincts
Evidently it translates directly into war wax. Google is weird
But the whole word translates as little brain
bellum in latin means war too
I'd like to thank Phantom Hourglass for helping me remember that part of the brain.
no seriously it actually helped lmao
Seeing Phantom Hourglass get some recognition! Woop!
Belllum is one of my fav zelda villains
Hope you all enjoy the last video for the Spooktober season! Now if you'll excuse me I have a 3DS Capture Card to test...
I do wonder if Ghoma and Bellum are kinda related. Both did sap away power and have a similiar eye.
by comparission majora seems even scarier i think: as majora seems to be the ONLY evil entity that never sought out the life force, neither as triforce, gratitude or any other powers similar or same to it.
It was already powerful enough O_O
Pardon me, but I just came up with a theory. What if malice-like powers are just the basic powers of demons and other magics may be just be learned? Bellum needed to put his entire form into possessing the ghost ship while Ganon was able to send blasts of malice to possess the sheikah tech in Hyrule. This leads me to believe that the power of the malice used by a demon correlates to the power of the demon making/using it. "A simple yet quite unbreakable spell" in Ganon's case while Bellum is presumably not as powerful as this universe's version of Satan/Lucifer .
Hint hint wink wink 😉
How much did it cost? I know the two main sellers of capture cards for the 3DS went out of business or stopped making boards, and used units go for a fortune on eBay.
You know, if you really think about it.... Phantom Hourglass is almost a retelling of Link's Awakening.
>Link washes up on an island.
>He kills monsters all connected to one, dare I say, nightmarish entity.
>One of the people you've been trying to help get his lifeforce back is a giant whale.
>The ending shows Link believing it was a dream, but sees something that indicates it was real. In PH case, it's Linebeck's ship while in LA he sees a seagull while hearing Marin's song.
>As you pointed out, Phantom can mean Dream, especially since Bellum is known as a "Dream Demon".
There's probably a lot more I'm missing.
In links awakening it all was just a dream, the island never actually existed and only seemed to because the windfish was forced to sleep. Where in PA it seems the world was actually real, but some sort of alternative world I guess?
I can see the parallels, but there's many differences too tbh.
Linebeck’s theme is an underrated gem.
Yep.
Phantom Hourglass was the first Zelda I played and Bellum and Linebeck left such a big impression on me.
PH was my first too. It was one of the first games I really loved, and now I'm going into game dev cause of it.
Not my first one at all, but I loved the final boss fight when fighting Bellumbeck, I loved the Bellumbeck theme too.
Just, thank you for this video. Honestly, Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks deserve more love, as they're both pretty great.
I agree!
Late but I agree wholeheartedly
You know who’s scarier than Bellum ?
The entity who created Bellum. Yes, remember what happened when you defeat Bellum ? He turned back into life sand. The ocean king said that Bellum used his sand to create monsters. So Bellum is himself a « creation » of sand. So there’s someone who has created him first. Someone enough strong to confront the ocean king and possessing the same power as Bellum to absorb life force.
Juiyers H probably majora since he/she has been known to create life
@@lordtachanka5512 No
Your talking about Villain that we see in a different game and timeline. Heck another world.
No way Majora is somehow in the world of the ocean king
@@sliceninja4546 But Majora is an ancient evil entity. Link's adventure to Termina may have only happened in one timeline, but that doesn't mean the villains just cease to exist. I don't think it was Majora either, but just saying.
It doesn't necessarily has to be evil either, it could be a corrupted creation from a benevolent entity like the Great Deku Tree or a Fairy or something similar.
I was thinking the same thing! Bellum is just a creation of some stronger being we have yet to see, but whatever it is, it's probably stronger than anything we've seen so far.
I clocked in so many hours on PH-mostly because no matter how hard I tried, only every 100th attempt at drawing an hourglass in the Bellum fight actually worked 😭
I feel this pain on a spiritual level
This comment triggered a memory I dont want to remember
OH MY GOD IT WASN'T JUST ME
OH MY GOD IT WASN...
Oh. Someone else said that
There’s a reply on this thread that shows up in my notifications but mysteriously isn’t here when I come to read the whole thing but to clarify for anyone who may have had this thought: I was drawing a figure eight just like the game said. Not the hourglass on the door shape from earlier in the game. It actually ended up being my DS-when I got a DSi and tried it then, it worked every time. So. If you were playing a DS lite it’s possible your bottom screen was worn out/had dead zones like mine apparently did
Ah, Bellum. My favorite boss of Zelda History, finally getting the recognition he deserves.
Phantom Hourglass was not only my first Zelda but my first video game, period.
Bellum scared the shit out of me, being an unknowable Cthulu-esque monster.
It just occured to me, we do fight something that is sucking the life-force out of a creature and it literally has a weakspot of just an eye.... Ghoma.
This was the first Zelda Game I ever played, I remember that it was a summer day, I was staying at my grandma’s house, and she got a bunch of returned DS games, and this was the first game of those I played, and I loved it
seeing the connections and reference between the different zelda games is really cool and satisfying to find out
Same! This video has opened up a new world of Zelda theories! Zelda RUclipsrs need to talk about the DS games more, in my opinion.
Well, all (official) Zelda games are connected.
Really makes it feel like the developers had previous games in mind, and didn't just invent them for the game. The universe expanding not only in width, but in depth.
Glad my boy Bellum's getting some love. That thing terrified me as a kid, but I still really respected it's design!
YES!!! No one ever talks about Phantom Hourglass!
bellum's always been my favorite villain. he goes down swinging, first he fights you, runs away because he knows he cant beat you and you have to chase him down, then when you catch him he commits to a last stand. epic imo
Assume the Sands of Hours is the physical manifestation of life force and the purple goop in Breath of the Wild is the physical manifestation of Malice. What if all beings are made of life force, but in evil beings such as Ganon or Bellum, some of that life force is transformed into Malice? This would explain why in at least Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild (those being the only Zeldas I’ve played personally), when you kill enemies or bosses they die in a sort of purple explosion. In Phantom Hourglass, they also explode into the Sands of Hours. These bursts of material are their Malice and life force leaving the dead monster.
In OoT and MM, enemies burst into flames. A small, but similar detail.
@@michealforguson5317 and for other skyward sword & Twilight princess they explode in black/purple too
Bellum is terrifying just look at it tentacles
Some people like that, I hear.
Warm Lillie oh no I know where this is going
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NO THANK YOU
Warm Lillie ... yeah like looks can kill.
Ahhh such an underrated game and villain! Love this!
I’m not sure if this is present in the main game. Since I am yet to play it. But Bellum is even more terrifying in the Phantom Hourglass manga
SPOILERS FOR THE MANGA! It’s really good, so i recommend reading it.
The ghost ship wasn’t made by Bellum, but cursed by him. And it was the ship where Linebeck worked. When it got cursed, Linebeck took the only escape boat and left the rest of the crew to wander the cursed ship forever. Which was why Linebeck wanted to find the ghost ship. Since he left his friends there to die. It was actually really gruesome and graphic and made Bellum even more terrifying
What about linebecks ex?
@@zixvirzjghamn737Jolene?, in the manga she is just kinda there and force Zaus to forge the Phantom Sword
It’s kinda cool to see one of my favorite games on the ds get a theory. Bellum always seemed kinda unique as far as Zelda enemies go but it does seem reasonable that he would share some connection to familiar foes, power-wise
I wasn't super convinced throughout the video, although I thought it was a really fun theory.
Then you mentioned that last detail and it kinda pushed me over the edge, very well executed!
I love the Ocean King's theme in the outro. It's one of the most underrated themes in the Zelda series.
Also, by your logic, the Triforce itself would be a form of life force, the life force of the goddesses and, by definition, the most powerful manifestation of life force to ever exist, so powerful that it can grant any wish.
Bit of a wild tangent, but I like to think I have an idea of where Bellum came from.
It's possible that Bellum was just a normal squid at one point.
As we know, time spent in the realm of the ocean king is not the same as time spent in the world of Hyrule. It's possible that it could be an afterlife for those at sea, however so much time has passed, it's just 'life' for the people there, not the 'afterlife'. Oshus, the Ocean King, was possibly worshipped as a shepherd who would gather souls lost at sea and bring them there. It's possibly why there's so much hourglass symbolism in the temple - reminiscent of Death's hourglass. When time runs out, you are claimed by death. Oshus, however, arrives at that moment to bring you to his realm, where people can live in peace.
And what source of malice died out at - or rather under - the great sea? Ganondorf.
In the time spent between the end of Windwaker and the beginning of Phantom Hourglass, Ganondorf was probably brought to the realm of the ocean king, and with him, his malice. Something went wrong, however, and that malice worked to inhabit a form that could drain life force. Once it found a suitable host, Bellum, it latched on and changed it, feeding on smaller prey until it was strong enough to take on the Ocean King himself. At that point, he fed. Fed to spread the malice, the influence he had. Once he had enough power, he made the ghost ship to travel between the realms and steal more souls, and eventually Tetra, like you said. This could have been an intelligent choice to actively seek out Zelda, and reclaim the power that was once in Ganondorf's hands. With that, he may have been strong enough to return to the realm of Hyrule, with far more souls to feed upon.
So happy to see that finally one of the big guys started covering the lesser known Zeldas. Hope you continue covering more of them, the big ones have been over covered by now, imo.
Id like to see some regarding Zelda II esp.
I am SO glad you made this! Phantom Hourglass was the first Zelda I ever played and I've always seen it as so mysterious and an untapped source of lore so this video is something I'd been looking for for years!
This remains one of my favourite theories. The DS Zelda's go severely underrated, and this pulls everything together, I can't help but keep returning to this whenever I need something to watch 🙏
I know everyone else has said this, but is so nice to see this game get some love. Thank you as always for the fantastic work!
A very interesting look at a villain that probably should get mentioned more. And the whole force concept does tie into the greater Zelda story overall. A fun thing that looking into one game like this just continues to draw connections to a variety of others. Obviously wouldn't be much fun if Bellum won, but it's a good discussion.
I am glad this game got some love from you xD hope to see more in the future, as well as spirit tracks.
I know right? The adult time line is my favorite. I'm writing a novelization of the games.
I absolutely ADORE phantom hourglass!! I suppose I’m biased since it was my first game you know??? All the happy childhood nostalgia . Anyway I’m just so happy to see it get more recognition recently.
So uh, might that imply the Triforce is the Golden Goddess’ “Force”?
Yes.
It's all coming together now.
the way phantom hourglass is the only other zelda game i played ever so far other than botw which i just started weeks ago yet i was so OBSESSED with that game as a child omg and i recently found out that this is actually one of the most unpopular games in the fandom which kinda makes me sad :(
And here I thought the theory was that Bellum was sucking the life out of the Wind Fish, who in turn, dragged Link into the dream to save him from Bellum before it was too late.
A Bellum that can suck life energy from dreams is truly terrifying!
I thought phantom hourglass was so addicting. But when I finally faced bellum it was definitely creepy to see him possess someone. Ganondorf did it when he possessed Zelda, but for some reason it was creepier in phantom hourglass
Wait...
Was that it?
Has Life Force / Light Force been the missing 4th Triforce piece this entire time? The power of the gods is incomplete without the power of mortals!?
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I'm sure that it is, "force" is probably what the empty middle of the triforce is supposed to represent.
NintendoBlackCrisis Not quite. While you did mention that the Light Force and Life Force are implied to be the same given the Japanese name, this would be canonically, since it would imply a contradiction. The Gratitude Stones, which according to your theory, are a crystallization of Life Force, existed at least since the events of Skyward Sword. However, the Light Force originates from the Minish in the Minish Cap, who have only been shown to exist in this game. Since the events of the Minish Cap occur centuries after those of Skyward Sword, at least according to the official encyclopedia by Nintendo, this would mean the Light Force would not have existed for as long as the Life Force. Furthermore, even if they were one and the same force, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Triforce. In Japanese, the Triforce is simply known as Toraiforsu, which is the Romaji for the Japonification of the word, and as such, it has no semantic connections to the Japanese word for force used in the games, especially because even if Force were just to be Forsu, Torai is not a real Japanese prefix, making it semantically meaningless. This, combined with the fact that the existence of the fourth Triforce piece has been deconfirmed, is simply sufficient to show that there is no real connection. At least not yet, anyway. Maybe the sequel to Breath of the Wild will change this, but until this happens, there is no affirmative conclusion to be made here.
At best, if you can indeed establish for sure that the Light Force and the Life Force are just one and the same, all this proves is that there exists an essence known as Malice, and another known as Force, and the former originates from the Demon Tribe, and the latter from the Goddess Tribe. And this is a significant discovery, but not quite anything like the confirmation of the "missing piece of the Triforce." If anything, the triangle in the middle that is empty is simply a consequence of the geometry of triangles. There is no way to group three equilateral triangles to form a composite, larger equilateral triangle with such a gap. And since the shape of the Triforce is supposed to reflect its relationship to the triforce pieces, this is the only shape it could have taken in. Calling it another piece is interesting, but a big stretch, as you yourself have discussed in previous videos.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 well yeah. All of this makes sense from a rational point of view, but nintendo has not make sense of a coherent, logical plot devices, they are trying as best as they can to reboot the lore retelling with BoTW... thats why its in its own timeline.Although I understand that to make an affirmative conclussion is not entirely reasonable, Nintendo has always gone their way... in short, making an affirmation even it it doesnt fit cannon is still valid as a theory, otherwise the story could be easily predicted. Its very likely that nintendo will use a plot device that is not enitrely coherent with previous canonic data, just to push the franchise gameplay where they want...just an opinion. They are not just going to tell you a conclusive story easily as it a very large part of zeldas selling put its in fact its ambiguous, mysterious, incoherent fragments that hook the lore nerds, casual or not, to the game.
I think instead of the missing fourth piece, it’s just the combined general power of the golden goddesses, or perhaps the power of Hylia. I think this could explain where the power behind the light arrows comes from, and also the light sprits from Twilight Princess (who might be physical manifestations of life force themselves).
Bellum is kinda like the early version of Calamity Ganon. Chaotic, hungry for power, but lacking the sentience and wit of Ganondorf, yet still having the power mad capability of creating armies.
He‘s that horrific?
Didn‘t know that but thanks thumbnail!
I love the DS games! I’m really glad your making theories about them. Great theory! I hope they expand upon this Life Force in future games.
Really cool! This was my 2nd Zelda game! I miss Linebeck, at least he got an island of his own in BotW.
His island has a single tree and korok.
For such a light-hearted Zelda Game like Phantom Hourglass, Bellum is definitely one of the darkest villains in the franchises. (He's up there with Majora)
PH and ST are GEMS. I still remember opening up ST on Christmas in 2009. I miss those days
I like calling the DS Zeldas the hidden Gems of the series
You spelt gems wrong
They are great but imo the Oracle ones are totaly hidden gems of the series
Gamer Guru thanks 😊
Also, when you run out of sand of time, you just take damage meaning the temple is taking you LIFE force
Oh no, I just realized that your carrying Oshus in your pocket all the time
Linebeck mentions the temple does this when you first meet him too
Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game, so, I'm really glad to see a theory on the first Zelda Villain I ever faced! Tho man this goes so deep! Makes me wanna replay Phantom Hourglass but I feel like I can't see it the same way now XD
My first handheld Zelda ❤️
I had alot of fun playing it along with ST.
Now that I think about it. The ocean king is a Whale and Bellum is a Giant Squid. Both Sea Creature that are rumored to do battle beneath the depths
Yes!! Finally an in depth video on the DS titles! People always write these games off as too simple or having aged poorly... I’m grateful to you for recognizing them :D *imagine I’m giving you a force gem right now*
I'm just happy to see spirit tracks and phantom hour glass being explored more
That Ganon battery idea, though mentioned in passing, floored me.
The manga adaption gives Bellum some self-awareness, yet still carries out his atrocities to fuel his sadistic appetite. Even after taking his life force, Bellum would still drain more from Oshus, slowly killing him. Forced out of Linebeck's body, Bellum would drag the Ocean King down further into the depths of the sea in an attempt to kill him.
New theory:
NBC = NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS
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BIG BRAIN 🧠
That's amazing and I should change my twitter name to that xD
@@NintendoBlackCrisis Maybe... 👀
Bellum’s parasitic nature also reminds me of Biolyte from Skyward Sword, the monster who infected Levias.
This is my favourite theory of yours so far! Not only did you talk about phantom hourglass but you tied up the force gems! Maybe even my favourite Zelda theory!
Phantom Hourglass was my introduction to the Zelda series. It’s a seriously underrated game
Great video here. Bellum is my favourite Zelda villain so it's nice to see someone giving him some much needed attention.
Phantom hourglass is pretty good and under appreciated. I played it ALOT back in the DS days. Linebeck was a great character, a funny guy.
This game introduced me to the Zelda series and I instantly became a fan.
In BotW, the Master Sword drains your life when you try to pull it out.
Dude. The creators of the story of Zelda are pure geniuses. My GOOOD
I love seeing so many fellow DS game fans! I've gotten a lot of flack from people for the sole reason of LIKING them, and I'm glad to see that others started in this series just like I did.
I wish the adult timeline got more love; I'm writing a novelization of the games.
I love that Bellum's first battle theme incorporates the Light Dungeon theme from Link to the Past for some reason.
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so basically link is a jedi
maybe that's why they added "light" and "life"
@@BlaxeFrost-X join the dark side
@@goggles8691 no...
Pretty much. Magic is just force energy, and Jedi are sometimes referred to as wizards.
Blaxe Frost
The Light Side is gay
Phantom hour glass was my first Zelda game, and first real game aside from asteroids, so no matter how crappy the graphics, how boring the gameplay, or how unimportant to the story, it will always hold a special place in my heart...
Turns out "draining people's life to power your evil magic" is a common thing in this universe.
That dead head turning and eyes glowing was the scariest part of this whole video
Something that i always asked myself: could Bellum just straight up be vaati?
probably not but imho its an interesting thought none the less and they do share a motivation and similar looks. and the origin and whereabouts of vaati are still one of the most mysterious things in all of zelda to me.
the problem with this theory is there is no real explanation how vaati (or parts of him) could have ended up in that parallel world of phantom hourglass. then again we dont even really know anything about that world anyway.
My first and favorite zelda game was phantom hourglass and it's hard to describe but it was really important to me cause it was that first game that made me feel that really special kind of childlike wonder that was just in awe of the wide open that was yours to explore and travel through and just staring at that opening screen and diving into a journey that was equally beautiful as it was terrifying
Well, this definitely backs up his far more monstrous adaptation in the Phantom Hourglass manga, that's for sure.
I have this small theory that Bellum and Malladus both only came into play because Ganondorf, the physical reincarnation of Demise's malice, was permanently killed off in the Adult timeline, thus opening that particular timeline to an evil power vacuum that demons were scrambling over each other to fill, and Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass Link breaking the cycle ultimately created more problems than he actually solved by repeatedly perma-killing these powerful demons since he leaves room for some other ultimate evil to come in. That's just me, though.
I thought the same thing. This theory makes sense.
For all we know, seeing as Bellum disappeared like any of the other created monsters, he was one himself. Maybe poor Vaati, atvthe bottom of the ocean, was trying to send out demons to regain power for him lol
Phantom Hourglass was the first Zelda game I ever played, and what launched my love of games. Say what you will, it does have faults, but I never would've discovered my favorite game series, and Windwaker, my favorite game.
Plus, I'm hoping to become a game developer.
All because of Phantom Hourglass.
Fun fact: it's also Eji Aounuma's favorite Zelda game.
awesome astronaut wish you the best
I love this game-- it was my first Zelda game ever...
A lot has changed since I started being a Zelda fan, but this game brings back such good memories...
When you feel like a Zelda theory nailed something. I think this is pretty solid. How many games have connections.
SS, MC, FS, Oot, FSA, PH, ST, and there could be others as well. It could also quite possibly be how MM gained so much power, but I don't have any evidence to back that up, but considering that the triforce isn't once listed. In fact, for the FD mask, it says that it is as if "all the memories of the people in termina" are in the mask. The Fused Shadows absorbed Zant, so it could be that too, but honestly I can't say. The one timeline that this has taken a back seat on is the downfall timeline, also Wind Waker. The triforce could also be part of the life force of the gods. Actually now that I think about it, there is one game in the downfall timeline, one that received a very recent remake.
Link's awakening. Koholint island very well could be created by the Wind fish's life force. I know it's a dream of the wind ship, but then how did link end up there. It is another world created by the wind fish in his sleep, and his life force was drained to make the island, keeping him asleep.Perhaps the instruments were major pieces of his life force and at a certain point, he has enough life force to take back the rest of it. Unless you get the true ending, in which case Marin stays.
Most of this is just baseless speculation, but still.
Maybe when the sword in botw drains links health it’s reviving a small portion of its power and the fact that it doesn’t have the power of the sages or other heroes that have been linked to the sword is why even after being fully awakened requiring link to be even stronger it holds its power longer but not indefinitely and you could also say the embodiment of hylia Zelda using her power to seal Gannon means that the sword isn’t necessarily able to use her strength as she’s used most of it herself
I'm a simple girl: I see Phantom Hourglass, I click.
I'm a simple guy: I see any Zelda, I click.
Eddie I’m a simple guy: I click
@@derekk2666 Lol.
I'm surprised this video only has 200k+ views. I believe it deserves way more than that. This was a fun watch!
Gratitude from skywards sword looks like the star fragments in spirit tracks.
My first ever game was phantom hourglass so I always kept both PH and spirit tracks in my heart, loved them so much and I still have the ds lite limited edition PH link game cases 🤣 thank you for making Bellum shine
Finally a youtuber that mentions phantom hourglass without shiting on it
Wow. Just wow. I was expecting this to be a smaller scale theory, but I was blown away as you connected to the other games of the series. Absolutely amazing, and by the end of this video, it became one of your trademark theories. Way to go!
The way we will beat the malice in botw 2 is by helping others, and using it on malice. Just like in Kirby, using friendship and happiness to destroy evil. Batreau is proof of this, as the gratitude crystals helped him be more human. And we will need to collect a lot of it to stop malice, and we will need the help of ganandorf.
You could even connect this to the triforce by saying that the triangle shaped light force coming from Zelda in the minishcap would have been Hylia's version of a piece of the triforce.
We know from the legend that each piece was created from a goddess when they left the world. Each piece has atleast a fragment of their power, and as this theory goes life force = a form of power in the zelda series.
The ds games were my first zelda games and I love them so much! I feel like they don't get the recognition they deserve, but it might be because they mean so much to me 😁😅
You know, those eyes are very reminiscent of the eyeballs added to the bosses in Majora's Mask 3D on the 3DS.
This guy is just a spicy lemon, he’s not scary at all.
🤣😂
Word. Of all the enemies, this guy isn't scary at all.