I've had my Salt 4k for 1 year, so I thought I would post up. Coolest & most quiet big amp I've owned. Top feature is the low voltage tech. I flex my Rubicon & knock hats off, just using a nice Interstate battery & stock alternator. No caps or lithium. I'm also running an Alpine 500w marine amp to power Alpine head, tweets, & SD 6.5's in soundbar. Salt is powering 2x 12" HCCA Orion's. 13.8-12.4 avg. volts. Not one single issue, & couldn't be happier with the system's build quality a year later.
Interesting how we view Korean made as premium now, yet 20 years ago when mainstream amps like Kicker shifted to Korean made from USA it wasn't thought of very much as a premium feature. I guess the abundance of mainland Chinese amps these days have soured ours tastes.
Nice! I love how you show the amp draw. That helps alot on deciding what amp for what type of setup to use and any type of electrical upgrades that might be needed. 😎👍👍
Also remember, that isnt real world draw. Its the best scenario., impedance wise and all. Not music/every day use. You could HALF that, and be around there.
So glad you went over the amplifier settings. It’s awesome that you take the (viable) comments into consideration. Also, Down4Sound has a “Budget Basshead” pkg that includes an SFB-600D. Do you think you could get your hands (and cameras) on one of those?
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Big efficient but expensive. Can't believe they didn't use dual inputs pulling that much juice. Excellent video as always homie. Still waiting for the lithium build vid!
@@danletter9357 lots of amps beat this when you compare dollar per watt. They are too expensive. Is cuz everyone blew their name up. Now everyone just wants sundown cuz that’s what they heard is good , or what they see all over RUclips , Instagram etc etc. their subs are wild tho. Def top contender in that field.
Salty Price? Nahh.. I don't think Jonathan Price is salty (not that I tasted him) lol, but the amp is pretty sweet. Great vid. Sundown has a lot of great stuff.
I think it would be interesting if you hooked up the bass knobs for the Amps that give us a temp readout. Just so we could see how hot they get durring the test. I know your not running them long. But in 1ohm pushing 7k it would just be fun to see after the tests are over. Great video bro
I did a test a while back where I attempted to put an amp into protect by playing a constant test tone at 40% power. It took a while and would be difficult to recreate for every amp test.
Really appreciate your effort making these Dyno videos purchased this amp because the time you take to get the results so I can choose between other amps
Very nice amplifier. You certainly get what you pay for. But I think I would go in a different direction. You've tested amps with similar capabilities for way less money. The main thing I think most people care about is reliability. Is this going to stand up. I know I'm done with paying for a name.
Cool amp, the editing skills on this review were top shelf. Nice work. I like the red box outlining the place of the feature you were talking about. Pro stuff man.
I watch big D stuff all the time he actually told you what it is. Which is so important most of these guys are just type on trying to make a profit on crap they sell.
So worth the money for these. The last time I spent that was in 90s for PPI A1200.2 that's godfather right there. That would be great to see on dyno! Thanks for sharing this video🤘
People always rag on companies for overrating their amps, but I think we should also look down upon companies who purposely and severely underrate their amps just so they can overprice them because they "do double their power". I mean it's great to have all that extra power, but if you're not expecting it, your speakers can be damaged or blown. I think a properly rated amplifier would be where it's actual power is it's rating +10 to 20%.
Finally something I would be interested in buying. I do need a four channel amplifier in this one looks pretty good I’m going to do some more research. But so far this is what I’m looking for.
@@SaltwaterBoogeyman I always leave them negative feedback because their way over priced and usually about 50% as good as other amps. This was no exception I was using sarcasm. There’s no way I would ever own any of that brand amplifiers. They are double what the price should be and even is that you can get higher quality amps. I build amplifiers I know what’s in them. Dismisses it by a mile. Have a good day
Well, of course. Do you think that the manufacturer should make every single amplifier different... like some kind of hand-crafted designer touch? Would you like them to include a packet of little stickers, so you could customixe them to make yours extra-unique?
Price isn't too bad for the quality just imagine how much it would cost if it had a kicker jl or Rockford badge on it. I remember paying $500 for a punch 200ix and $400 for a used 225 hcca back in the day.
dual input splitters going to a close by distro block is all you need. Its long runs of wire that cause loss, not short runs.. so i am perfectly fine with the single inputs..
This amp is bigger than longer than what it says in the manual. It’s 23 1/2 I believe. I got one and now have to somehow fit it behind my seat. Swapping out the kicker kxa2400.1 to this with 4 L7 q class 8s
I’m curious what phone you’re using? I have had some people say this but I don’t see it on my phone, PC, Mac or iPad. Looks clear to me. The video is HDR and RUclips displays it as well. I thought they could SDR it if your screen doesn’t support…
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Ok, I was hoping to find out what kind of devices were having issues displaying the HDR. Thanks for responding, glad it's bright and clear 👍
@@wal Love your content...although I consider myself too old to become a bass head again, it brings me back to my high school days with the first in-dash Sony CD Player CDX-R7 (replaced for free by Sony with the CDX-R88), four Cerwin-Vega 15's, an Orion 2350 (surfboard), Orion 400 BDG and Orion 200 CRX pumpin out Too Short, Magic Mike, Nemesis, Ron C, Two Live Crew and Beastie Boys. Gear has come a long way since then!
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Awesome! I'm planning some more old school vids (home and car audio), so more HDR content forthcoming! 4K30 for your viewing pleasure 👌
Drawing up to 766A I'm curious how much effect on output there would be due to the power rails heating up on the amp side of the single power connections compared to dual inputs when run for long periods
I always use dual 1/0 inputs when testing if possible. Test tones and the Amp Dyno are hard on the amps and having the most current available is important
@@wal Yes they sure do push the amps and really like how you use the dual inputs but I was more referring to the other side of the input terminal inside the amp itself.
I think you asked the most important question. In about 10 years will be able to run amplifiers like this for mid range. When you look at the bass amplifier Orion makes a 3000 W that draws 1200 A. Which it puts out crazy power. The problem is need a nuclear power plant to run it
@@bamafan-in-OZ - In the old days, speakers were a lot more efficient. You didn't need to have 500W just to listen to a phone call over your Bluetooth...
I said this before on the Orion 2500 on another channel. I have issues with amps with rating that are too high or too low. Rate your amps correctly. You setup an electrical system to power a 4k watt amp and you buy this amp. Your battery drops to 10 volts clips the shit out of the subs and poof, pop a sub. They need to rate their amps correctly, it's not hard
It’s not hard to measure your Voltage drop @ peak draw. If you are running this Amp plus Amps for your Mids + Highs you are going to have 6+ runs of 1/0, extra Battery, HO Alt, etc anyway.
It’s ALWAYS better to get more than you expect. You can always de-tune an amp by lowering the gain. You should plan for more electrical than you need as well…this way you won’t have to worry with voltage issues
@@wal You shouldn’t be clipping because of Power anyway, correct? You only clip if the Source is being clipped, you would be clipping if you turned down the volume, or you ran down your batteries on Aux/engine off if that was the case? I think I remember this being asked in the Forums all the time.
The comments about "high voltage" are funny. If you're shelling out $1500 for this amp, I'm pretty sure most that run at this power level or above, will be using lithium as big D is here. Lead acid is lazy, sluggish, bad cold weather performance, heavy, corrodes your vehicle, terminals/wires, and does not hold voltage under load well at all. Not to mention, recharging efficiency with lithuim is near 100%. You get all the power back you put in, where as the lead acid(sealed or flooded, doesn't matter) you get maybe 50ish percent(best case scenario) of what went in(due to in efficiency both going in AND out) pending actual quality of construction, plate purity, and condition/age. Lead acid is old tech, lto and similar technology is the future. Bottom line, for you guys complaining, and still running LAZY lead acid with power like this on tap, y'all need to get with the times. If you can build your own, lithuim is actually cheaper than lead acid, if you know how to shop. I'd imagine those complaining look at limitless prices and think lithium is unaffordable. It sure is... I built a 96ah bank for less than $500. Out the door, with terminals, cable, buss bars, hardware, balancer and all. Anyway, sweet test man, I was very curious about how this one was going to do. Spendy, but a solid performer!
I currently have a decent setup and thinking of going with a Salt4k. My setup now is eight 6.5” Sundowns in a Vented custom box tuned to 35hz in a Sundown sfb 2000d, but I do have a sfb 5000d ready to go in, my question is should I just sell those and invest in the Salt 4K. I love the clean look and bass knob part. I do have a Voltage gauge now but to have all in one I like.
I really wanna see a toro R6 on here now.. they are rated at .5ohm and Milo John is a dealer and asked to ship you one to test I think you should take him up on the offer lol
My salt 3 started randomly popping. Even if i smacked ot with my hands would make it make my subs pop. Upgraded to salt 4. This korean quality better shine thru with this 1
Thank you so much for doing all these dyne runs. Your content is invaluable for consumers. Have you ever had the chance to get a SALT 1700.5 on your bench? Curious if the 5 channel is underrated on the sub channel.
I believe it’s very similar to this : Most Powerful 5 Channel Amp? Cosmos Audio EP-2000.5 Amp Dyno Test and Review [4K] ruclips.net/video/ZI53dKUVeXc/видео.html
My question is why dont they just call it what it is and that a 3500 watt amp at 14.4 and 2 ohms. I dont get all these companies under rating their stuff by half. Didnt everyone rag on Orion for doing this same thing with that 5000 watt amp.
I'm with you. Underrating means nothing. Correctly rating justifies the price. 10-20% over/under. They should say 6k amp. 1500w @4 ohms. 3k @2 ohms. 6k@ 1 ohm. There, fixed it for them.
@@housepumpinpc3983 Exactly. Because without watching an amp Dyno test, people are likely going to choose something else. They're shooting themselves in the foot
@@wal It would be kinda cool, to see 12v testing. Is that not what salt means.? 15plus, seems a high starting point also. Run it at 12v and see, hence the SALT design. Just me.
@@96kylar he explained in the video. "low voltage" in salt, just means its ready for a standard charging system (14v), plug and play.. when you start talking about thousands of watts it's easier to find amps that can run off 16v charging systems, which isn't what this is designed for it'd actually probly go into protect if you did run on a high voltage, wanting 12v is just too low lmao it won't do those same numbers, might still do rated power or close to it but...... why?
@@96kylar if you’re at some 12volts Then you don’t need a amp hooked up. You need to be driving to Auto-Zone to get your battery & Alt checked out and fixed. Lol. Cause you should be 13.5 min at least 13. Testing a amp at 12volts. Wouldn’t work out. Just cause harm has it would immediately draw under 12.
I’ve seen a salt 8 wired at .17 on subs clamp 17k. Without protecting. It did eventually blow up. Lol. Replaced it with a crescendo 6k and it never protects or has a single problem. The salt amps are very pricey, but as you said you get what you pay for. Salt amps will run on speakers all day wired at .33.
@@SUTH_33 but for how long, I e been hearing a lot of people blowing and burning up their salt amps from running them well under 1 ohm and that's with beefed up electrical. That crescendo 6k are made to run at half ohm with no issues. I rarely hear about those crescendo amps burning up when used correctly.
@@SUTH_33 I know you’re joking but they really will run .33 quite well if you keep them cool. They heat up quick wired under .67. And I have seen a salt 12 clamp 24.5k wired at .25. It blew up though after a few months. Sundowns vehicle they call project SPL. 4 salt 12’s wired at .25. They clamped 49,000 out of 2 amps strapped at 1/2. Unfortunately the video that they showed it on smoke came rolling out of one of the amps. Lol
@@petergozinya7290 Yes but those lithium battery cells need to be charged up, that Charing usually takes place from an AC charger, unless D had a solar array on his roof.
@@stiggyness1976 - The cost is almost irrelevant. He tests for what, ten minutes absolute max. He's doing 6,000W at 80% efficiency... let's say 8,000W for 10 minutes, but let's make it 15 minutes. Let's do the math... 8000W x 0.25 hours = 2kWh at 20c per kWh = 40 cents. The batteries would have almost 100% charge / discharge efficiency. For other equipment, lets add another 10c and round it at 50c per test.
Can these Salt series amps be ran on lower voltage like 12-13 volts? I'm debating between the Taramps and this 1 but leaning towards the Taramps Smart 5 due to it being able to perform well on low voltage. So I'm interested in your opinion if you don't mind.
Amps cost way more in the 90s...because they were hand made, by Americans, I wish I could still buy American made amps (I now buy German made) We only have a few manufacturers left (MMATS ,Linear Power, TRU)..and Big D doesn't ever test them....only Asian crap and some Brazil...I will take American or European made any day.
@@raymo6795 I used to feel the same way but I'm too old to give a crap these days. I like any amp that makes power. I've paid my dues with the old school stuff, could have bought a house for what I've spent over the years. Just give me cheap power now, I have plenty of old school on the shelves.
@@RedHammerBodyShop …Mmats are actually quite reasonably priced, are of first rate quality and they have a few lines that are still American made. ( Florida). I guess if you need 5000 watts, Asian or Brazilian is the way. But I am more into sound quality these days and would gladly pay more for a superior American or European product. I will never buy an Asian or Brazilian product as an American or European product is available. I have few hobbies, so I spare no expense in what I am interested in. Sound quality.
@@raymo6795 I agree, I'm just into bass more than anything. 4-15's so I need big power. I have old school power 1000, 650, 300, 150 Fosgates, as well as some BD1000'S and 800a4's and many others. I was a Fosgate die hard from the late 80's untill 2005ish. I can tell you one thing, a power 650 on a set of quality mids and highs is hard to beat.
I have 4 Skar-EVL 8s being pushed by a JP23 amp currently. It slaps! But I want to run 4 Skar-ZVX 8s later. Will this amp push those? Or too much power? I also have a D4S Lithium battery and a 320 alternator.
@@wal I through it up on bassheads on a budget! The amp is definitely expensive no doubt there for other in its power range even for Korean boards I feel crescendo is probably the least cost as far as watt per dollar being Korean and I absolutely agree with your points it should definitely have a nicer bass knob a metal one and 2 sets of inputs
Hey Big D, do you remember where you first heard "Tiffany style rcas"? I'd never heard them called that before you but for the last few years, that's how I refer to them now too
Big problem with car audio is the 12v system. It requires so many amps to achieve few kw that it quickly goes out of hand. 1kw is the maximum limit and anything above would require all new electrical system with more alternators and Lifepo4 or lto batteries.
Unless you are competing you don’t really need anything past perhaps another battery near the Amps. I mean I used to bump around Town with my deck Sub setting @ -10 (it goes from -10 to +10). Even that would pull air out of your lungs if you got too happy with the Vol knob.
@@Len_M. Good efficient speakers need like 300-500w to make more than enough sound. I make amplifiers for fun and expirment with designs and specially class d chip amps are always facinating to me. I have a tda7498e amplifier with a home made boost converter in my car bumping two sony explod subs for less than 100$ and it's more than enough bass to shake your internals. I have 200w x2 class ab amplifier made with 2sc5200 at home for my pc and most of the time i don't even use 20w of it.
I have 4 sundown x8v3 subs, cannot seem to wire them to 2 ohms!??? I literally followed all instructions and they don't seem to end up with the correct resistance!? Wtf am I doing wrong!? Obviously trying to hit 2ohms....
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I've had my Salt 4k for 1 year, so I thought I would post up. Coolest & most quiet big amp I've owned. Top feature is the low voltage tech. I flex my Rubicon & knock hats off, just using a nice Interstate battery & stock alternator. No caps or lithium. I'm also running an Alpine 500w marine amp to power Alpine head, tweets, & SD 6.5's in soundbar. Salt is powering 2x 12" HCCA Orion's. 13.8-12.4 avg. volts. Not one single issue, & couldn't be happier with the system's build quality a year later.
Id say best feature is the clip light on the bass nob.
How many amps is your stock alternator?
alternator and lithiums and that system will blow your mind on how much of a difference itd make
I just upgraded from an SFB 3k to a SALT 3k and the difference is night and day with my ZV6 12.
👌😬👍
Glad to hear this I had the sfb3000d now I have the sia 3500 and wanting to grab either the salt3k or salt4k
@@kaneloc3242 i know this is old but how was it going from the SFB to the SIA?
Interesting how we view Korean made as premium now, yet 20 years ago when mainstream amps like Kicker shifted to Korean made from USA it wasn't thought of very much as a premium feature. I guess the abundance of mainland Chinese amps these days have soured ours tastes.
Was going to go with the 12k, but I went with the Crossfire 16k both solid amps, thanks for the dyno!!!
Nice! I love how you show the amp draw. That helps alot on deciding what amp for what type of setup to use and any type of electrical upgrades that might be needed.
😎👍👍
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Also remember, that isnt real world draw. Its the best scenario., impedance wise and all. Not music/every day use. You could HALF that, and be around there.
@@96kylar real world use would never pull as Much as resistors..these tests are harder on an amp then real world
So glad you went over the amplifier settings. It’s awesome that you take the (viable) comments into consideration. Also, Down4Sound has a “Budget Basshead” pkg that includes an SFB-600D. Do you think you could get your hands (and cameras) on one of those?
Love love love your Dyno's!! Keep em coming D! Because of you I purchased the JP 8 for my build
That’s a super cool amp. Prob my favorite in the lineup
Thank you!! This is the amp that I run in my Tahoe. I have 2 mechman 400 amp alternators to feed it and it has power for days!
So you have 2 mechman 400s for a single salt 4K? 🤔
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That amps a beast beautifully built price to go with it, just didn’t get that bigD vibe from this review idk hope big d doing good ???!!!!
It's called you can't slam someone who pays you.
@@brandoncannon3185 you must be new here , but just so you know. That’s not how Derek rolls. He’s not that RUclips Shill that you’re referring too
@@brandoncannon3185 🤦🏼♂️ you know nothing about big d
Big efficient but expensive. Can't believe they didn't use dual inputs pulling that much juice. Excellent video as always homie. Still waiting for the lithium build vid!
Thanks brother!
Yes very expensive for sundown!!! It’s the name now
Sundown has been hitting it hard last few years. Fairly priced for what you get. Can’t be beat.
You can get a crescendo bass clef 6k for 1199.00 and its half ohm stable and does well over 8k so yes it can be beat.
@RomaVilla aren't they cookie cutter?
@@danletter9357 lots of amps beat this when you compare dollar per watt. They are too expensive. Is cuz everyone blew their name up. Now everyone just wants sundown cuz that’s what they heard is good , or what they see all over RUclips , Instagram etc etc. their subs are wild tho. Def top contender in that field.
Salty Price? Nahh.. I don't think Jonathan Price is salty (not that I tasted him) lol, but the amp is pretty sweet.
Great vid. Sundown has a lot of great stuff.
I think it would be interesting if you hooked up the bass knobs for the Amps that give us a temp readout. Just so we could see how hot they get durring the test. I know your not running them long. But in 1ohm pushing 7k it would just be fun to see after the tests are over. Great video bro
I did a test a while back where I attempted to put an amp into protect by playing a constant test tone at 40% power. It took a while and would be difficult to recreate for every amp test.
Really appreciate your effort making these Dyno videos purchased this amp because the time you take to get the results so I can choose between other amps
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very nice amplifier. You certainly get what you pay for. But I think I would go in a different direction. You've tested amps with similar capabilities for way less money. The main thing I think most people care about is reliability. Is this going to stand up. I know I'm done with paying for a name.
An efficient strong boy right here!
Fo sho, you have the juice, it will provide the powa!
' Back in the day ' we paid the same price for a PPI PC1400 and got 1200w @ 1ohm.
Y cuantos decibeles producian ?
Cool amp, the editing skills on this review were top shelf. Nice work. I like the red box outlining the place of the feature you were talking about. Pro stuff man.
I watch big D stuff all the time he actually told you what it is. Which is so important most of these guys are just type on trying to make a profit on crap they sell.
I like this video a lot. I probably purchased this amp for my zv6 12.
So worth the money for these. The last time I spent that was in 90s for PPI A1200.2 that's godfather right there. That would be great to see on dyno! Thanks for sharing this video🤘
...PPI, American made greatness
People always rag on companies for overrating their amps, but I think we should also look down upon companies who purposely and severely underrate their amps just so they can overprice them because they "do double their power". I mean it's great to have all that extra power, but if you're not expecting it, your speakers can be damaged or blown. I think a properly rated amplifier would be where it's actual power is it's rating +10 to 20%.
Zapco rates their amps spot on but still carries a high price tag. So it doesn’t really matter as long as you are happy.
Orion HCCA 3000.1 DSPLX for the WIN!!!! Dynamic 7673 WATTS @ 1 ohm
Dynamic 8799 watts @ .8 ohm
Thank you for the review!!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Finally something I would be interested in buying. I do need a four channel amplifier in this one looks pretty good I’m going to do some more research. But so far this is what I’m looking for.
Monoblock.
@@SaltwaterBoogeyman I always leave them negative feedback because their way over priced and usually about 50% as good as other amps. This was no exception I was using sarcasm. There’s no way I would ever own any of that brand amplifiers. They are double what the price should be and even is that you can get higher quality amps. I build amplifiers I know what’s in them. Dismisses it by a mile. Have a good day
❌✅ joe cool 😎 agreed nice amp though// way wrong price __ but to each their own ‼️
These amps are awesome, but if u seen one, you seen them all. They perform, no doubt about that!
Well, of course. Do you think that the manufacturer should make every single amplifier different... like some kind of hand-crafted designer touch?
Would you like them to include a packet of little stickers, so you could customixe them to make yours extra-unique?
@@johncoops6897 sure buddy🤦♂️
Man if only i had the money i would for sure buy this beast just to have it
Price isn't too bad for the quality just imagine how much it would cost if it had a kicker jl or Rockford badge on it. I remember paying $500 for a punch 200ix and $400 for a used 225 hcca back in the day.
Bro sundown better than both companies you just mention lmfao
WOW!!! This amp is insane!!! Thanks Big D!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
dual input splitters going to a close by distro block is all you need. Its long runs of wire that cause loss, not short runs.. so i am perfectly fine with the single inputs..
This amp is bigger than longer than what it says in the manual. It’s 23 1/2 I believe. I got one and now have to somehow fit it behind my seat. Swapping out the kicker kxa2400.1 to this with 4 L7 q class 8s
I love your vids Bid D God bless ya and keep em coming
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Damn! That HDR content is bright AF on my phone!
I’m curious what phone you’re using? I have had some people say this but I don’t see it on my phone, PC, Mac or iPad. Looks clear to me. The video is HDR and RUclips displays it as well. I thought they could SDR it if your screen doesn’t support…
@@wal I have a Samsung Galaxy ZFold3 and my comment was a compliment, not a complaint lol.
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Ok, I was hoping to find out what kind of devices were having issues displaying the HDR. Thanks for responding, glad it's bright and clear 👍
@@wal Love your content...although I consider myself too old to become a bass head again, it brings me back to my high school days with the first in-dash Sony CD Player CDX-R7 (replaced for free by Sony with the CDX-R88), four Cerwin-Vega 15's, an Orion 2350 (surfboard), Orion 400 BDG and Orion 200 CRX pumpin out Too Short, Magic Mike, Nemesis, Ron C, Two Live Crew and Beastie Boys. Gear has come a long way since then!
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Awesome! I'm planning some more old school vids (home and car audio), so more HDR content forthcoming! 4K30 for your viewing pleasure 👌
This payback from the scv4k test against the orion 3000hcca few yrs back.they underrated this big time lol
Ooooo man stop what I’m doin !!! BIG D just posted !!!
Yeah boi
Drawing up to 766A I'm curious how much effect on output there would be due to the power rails heating up on the amp side of the single power connections compared to dual inputs when run for long periods
I always use dual 1/0 inputs when testing if possible. Test tones and the Amp Dyno are hard on the amps and having the most current available is important
@@wal Yes they sure do push the amps and really like how you use the dual inputs but I was more referring to the other side of the input terminal inside the amp itself.
I think you asked the most important question. In about 10 years will be able to run amplifiers like this for mid range. When you look at the bass amplifier Orion makes a 3000 W that draws 1200 A. Which it puts out crazy power. The problem is need a nuclear power plant to run it
@@joecool7165 yes the systems these days are insane compared to what we thought was extreme 25 - 30 years ago
@@bamafan-in-OZ - In the old days, speakers were a lot more efficient. You didn't need to have 500W just to listen to a phone call over your Bluetooth...
Just a bit beastly. Love it!!
Yeah man, she strong!
Now you can get a jp43 for half the price that will do the same power, AND it has those double power and ground inputs you said you wanted😊
I said this before on the Orion 2500 on another channel. I have issues with amps with rating that are too high or too low. Rate your amps correctly. You setup an electrical system to power a 4k watt amp and you buy this amp. Your battery drops to 10 volts clips the shit out of the subs and poof, pop a sub. They need to rate their amps correctly, it's not hard
It’s not hard to measure your Voltage drop @ peak draw. If you are running this Amp plus Amps for your Mids + Highs you are going to have 6+ runs of 1/0, extra Battery, HO Alt, etc anyway.
It’s ALWAYS better to get more than you expect. You can always de-tune an amp by lowering the gain. You should plan for more electrical than you need as well…this way you won’t have to worry with voltage issues
@@wal You shouldn’t be clipping because of Power anyway, correct? You only clip if the Source is being clipped, you would be clipping if you turned down the volume, or you ran down your batteries on Aux/engine off if that was the case? I think I remember this being asked in the Forums all the time.
The reason that they supply a VOLTAGE METER on the bass knob is so that you can ensure that your battery doesn't drop to 10 Volts. It's not hard.
@Pamfman It’s definitely hard on your Alternator, etc, but an actual clipped Signal isn’t correct I don’t think.
The comments about "high voltage" are funny. If you're shelling out $1500 for this amp, I'm pretty sure most that run at this power level or above, will be using lithium as big D is here. Lead acid is lazy, sluggish, bad cold weather performance, heavy, corrodes your vehicle, terminals/wires, and does not hold voltage under load well at all. Not to mention, recharging efficiency with lithuim is near 100%. You get all the power back you put in, where as the lead acid(sealed or flooded, doesn't matter) you get maybe 50ish percent(best case scenario) of what went in(due to in efficiency both going in AND out) pending actual quality of construction, plate purity, and condition/age.
Lead acid is old tech, lto and similar technology is the future. Bottom line, for you guys complaining, and still running LAZY lead acid with power like this on tap, y'all need to get with the times. If you can build your own, lithuim is actually cheaper than lead acid, if you know how to shop. I'd imagine those complaining look at limitless prices and think lithium is unaffordable. It sure is... I built a 96ah bank for less than $500. Out the door, with terminals, cable, buss bars, hardware, balancer and all.
Anyway, sweet test man, I was very curious about how this one was going to do. Spendy, but a solid performer!
After the orion kick their butts in the 3k shootout SD upped their game. And prices tho 😳
Nice amp, solid. But that price tag... I'm a fan of their subs, though.
That’s a bad boy right there!
These are nice amps Big D!
Brings to mind the Orion HCCA 3K...
Can you test the deaf bonce aab-2900.1 and others of that line theres no videos out there
JC!! That things a beast!!
hey Big D, have you ever wired 2 big amps like this together and dyno it??
I currently have a decent setup and thinking of going with a Salt4k. My setup now is eight 6.5” Sundowns in a Vented custom box tuned to 35hz in a Sundown sfb 2000d, but I do have a sfb 5000d ready to go in, my question is should I just sell those and invest in the Salt 4K. I love the clean look and bass knob part. I do have a Voltage gauge now but to have all in one I like.
How does the JP33 or JP43 compare to the Salt 4K?
Looks like Sundown underrated there too line amps , just like the biggest boys... Expensive and exceptional
I really wanna see a toro R6 on here now.. they are rated at .5ohm and Milo John is a dealer and asked to ship you one to test I think you should take him up on the offer lol
What cheap and affordable subwoofer do you recommend? Looking for a 10” subwoofer for a single cab ford ranger
I want to see that massive 6k sub with this amp
The story with that sub is Massive gave incorrect box specs so the sub doesn’t have enough port
My salt 3 started randomly popping. Even if i smacked ot with my hands would make it make my subs pop. Upgraded to salt 4. This korean quality better shine thru with this 1
Nice, but I still love old school amps better.
Classic cars and classic amps rule!
Thank you so much for doing all these dyne runs. Your content is invaluable for consumers. Have you ever had the chance to get a SALT 1700.5 on your bench? Curious if the 5 channel is underrated on the sub channel.
I believe it’s very similar to this : Most Powerful 5 Channel Amp? Cosmos Audio EP-2000.5 Amp Dyno Test and Review [4K]
ruclips.net/video/ZI53dKUVeXc/видео.html
My question is why dont they just call it what it is and that a 3500 watt amp at 14.4 and 2 ohms. I dont get all these companies under rating their stuff by half. Didnt everyone rag on Orion for doing this same thing with that 5000 watt amp.
I'm with you. Underrating means nothing. Correctly rating justifies the price. 10-20% over/under. They should say 6k amp. 1500w @4 ohms. 3k @2 ohms. 6k@ 1 ohm. There, fixed it for them.
@@housepumpinpc3983 Exactly. Because without watching an amp Dyno test, people are likely going to choose something else. They're shooting themselves in the foot
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All of the salt amps korean???
I love my Salt4k’s on my ZV5’s
What a beast!
Yeah boi
Stayed until the end.
Would love to see some low voltage testing!
I’m hoping if you shell out for an amp like this you won’t be skimping on the electrical?
@@wal It would be kinda cool, to see 12v testing. Is that not what salt means.? 15plus, seems a high starting point also. Run it at 12v and see, hence the SALT design. Just me.
@@wal it would be cool to see a low voltage test. Perty pwease
@@96kylar he explained in the video. "low voltage" in salt, just means its ready for a standard charging system (14v), plug and play.. when you start talking about thousands of watts it's easier to find amps that can run off 16v charging systems, which isn't what this is designed for it'd actually probly go into protect if you did run on a high voltage, wanting 12v is just too low lmao it won't do those same numbers, might still do rated power or close to it but...... why?
@@96kylar if you’re at some 12volts Then you don’t need a amp hooked up. You need to be driving to
Auto-Zone to get your battery & Alt checked out and fixed. Lol. Cause you should be 13.5 min at least 13. Testing a amp at 12volts. Wouldn’t work out. Just cause harm has it would immediately draw under 12.
Love the Salt amps, hate their prices.
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This amp could run my entire house.
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Have you tested amps strapped ? I would like to see if they really do what they say.
Yes, they do 1 ohm x 2 power. It’s not magic
I’ve seen a salt 8 wired at .17 on subs clamp 17k. Without protecting. It did eventually blow up. Lol. Replaced it with a crescendo 6k and it never protects or has a single problem. The salt amps are very pricey, but as you said you get what you pay for. Salt amps will run on speakers all day wired at .33.
salt can wired down to .01 ☑️
salt 8 clamped .01ohm push over 20k.
maybe salt 12 over 30k
@@SUTH_33 but for how long, I e been hearing a lot of people blowing and burning up their salt amps from running them well under 1 ohm and that's with beefed up electrical. That crescendo 6k are made to run at half ohm with no issues. I rarely hear about those crescendo amps burning up when used correctly.
Nice, I also have a bc6k and love it. Perfect amount of power for my Fi neo 4.7 single 15.
@@SUTH_33 I know you’re joking but they really will run .33 quite well if you keep them cool. They heat up quick wired under .67. And I have seen a salt 12 clamp 24.5k wired at .25. It blew up though after a few months. Sundowns vehicle they call project SPL. 4 salt 12’s wired at .25. They clamped 49,000 out of 2 amps strapped at 1/2. Unfortunately the video that they showed it on smoke came rolling out of one of the amps. Lol
I'd be really interested to know what kind of impact these tests have on your electric bill.
Nothing it’s all ran on DC voltage. Not connected to his house. Only thing is the lights in the shop and the amp dyno are AC voltage
The lithium cells were not cheap, but they provide the reserve power required for these tests
@@petergozinya7290 Yes but those lithium battery cells need to be charged up, that Charing usually takes place from an AC charger, unless D had a solar array on his roof.
@@stiggyness1976 - The cost is almost irrelevant. He tests for what, ten minutes absolute max. He's doing 6,000W at 80% efficiency... let's say 8,000W for 10 minutes, but let's make it 15 minutes. Let's do the math...
8000W x 0.25 hours = 2kWh at 20c per kWh = 40 cents.
The batteries would have almost 100% charge / discharge efficiency. For other equipment, lets add another 10c and round it at 50c per test.
@@johncoops6897 Too much time on ya hands pal, who cares?
The proper term for those RCA's is panel mount not Tiffany though I understand and can relate Tiffany to panel mount.
Wow that's a very nice amp I'm going to get one very nice
Big "G", did you ever find out why the other Salt amp kept going into protect?
You mean the Slayer? No
@@wal yes the Slayer, thank you.
Can you recommend magnetic quick disconnect for subwoofers rated at about 1,000 w?
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Can these Salt series amps be ran on lower voltage like 12-13 volts? I'm debating between the Taramps and this 1 but leaning towards the Taramps Smart 5 due to it being able to perform well on low voltage. So I'm interested in your opinion if you don't mind.
I went with the taramps and I have it pushing a deaf bounce apocalypse (DB-3512R) 2ohm !!! 2017 Mustang GT 5.0 coyote
Is this amp stronger than the kicker warhorse
this amp or the kicker warhorse?
Any chance you can or have tested the salt 1700.5????
How would you compare this to the jp43?
I wonder why dynamic power on 8 and 4 ohms is lower than uncertified power?
It's GOOD but we all got to factor in the price.
got a bit salty after they were smacked around by orion in the old tests so they had this built
Great video! It would be awesome if you could do a dunk review on the soundqubed q1 6000
Kids on here fussing about price have never bought a Fosgate Power 1000 in 1990 and it shows. Lol
Amps cost way more in the 90s...because they were hand made, by Americans, I wish I could still buy American made amps (I now buy German made) We only have a few manufacturers left (MMATS ,Linear Power, TRU)..and Big D doesn't ever test them....only Asian crap and some Brazil...I will take American or European made any day.
@@raymo6795 I used to feel the same way but I'm too old to give a crap these days. I like any amp that makes power. I've paid my dues with the old school stuff, could have bought a house for what I've spent over the years. Just give me cheap power now, I have plenty of old school on the shelves.
@@RedHammerBodyShop …Mmats are actually quite reasonably priced, are of first rate quality and they have a few lines that are still American made. ( Florida). I guess if you need 5000 watts, Asian or Brazilian is the way. But I am more into sound quality these days and would gladly pay more for a superior American or European product. I will never buy an Asian or Brazilian product as an American or European product is available. I have few hobbies, so I spare no expense in what I am interested in. Sound quality.
@@raymo6795 I agree, I'm just into bass more than anything. 4-15's so I need big power. I have old school power 1000, 650, 300, 150 Fosgates, as well as some BD1000'S and 800a4's and many others. I was a Fosgate die hard from the late 80's untill 2005ish. I can tell you one thing, a power 650 on a set of quality mids and highs is hard to beat.
I have 4 Skar-EVL 8s being pushed by a JP23 amp currently. It slaps! But I want to run 4 Skar-ZVX 8s later. Will this amp push those? Or too much power? I also have a D4S Lithium battery and a 320 alternator.
It would power them nicely with headroom..or add another JP23
@@wal ohhh I just rewatched your jp23 video and forgot you stated they are "strappable" ... lol 😆 🤷♂️ good idea 💡 and less pricey 🤙 thx 👌
Heck ya dude!!
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@@wal I through it up on bassheads on a budget! The amp is definitely expensive no doubt there for other in its power range even for Korean boards I feel crescendo is probably the least cost as far as watt per dollar being Korean and I absolutely agree with your points it should definitely have a nicer bass knob a metal one and 2 sets of inputs
I understand no 0. 5 dynamic. But why not certied or uncertified?
Hey Big D, do you remember where you first heard "Tiffany style rcas"? I'd never heard them called that before you but for the last few years, that's how I refer to them now too
Would this amp be to much for 4 Sundown U8's? I'm currently running them on a Salt-2 but wanting to upgrade to either the Salt-3 or Salt-4.
Big problem with car audio is the 12v system. It requires so many amps to achieve few kw that it quickly goes out of hand. 1kw is the maximum limit and anything above would require all new electrical system with more alternators and Lifepo4 or lto batteries.
Unless you are competing you don’t really need anything past perhaps another battery near the Amps. I mean I used to bump around Town with my deck Sub setting @ -10 (it goes from -10 to +10). Even that would pull air out of your lungs if you got too happy with the Vol knob.
Yeah I like to stay around 1000-1200 on factory electrical.
@@Len_M. Good efficient speakers need like 300-500w to make more than enough sound. I make amplifiers for fun and expirment with designs and specially class d chip amps are always facinating to me. I have a tda7498e amplifier with a home made boost converter in my car bumping two sony explod subs for less than 100$ and it's more than enough bass to shake your internals. I have 200w x2 class ab amplifier made with 2sc5200 at home for my pc and most of the time i don't even use 20w of it.
Hey Big D. Why not set the lpf to 80
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I have the opportunity to buy one for $400 should I do it? It’s used, but BARELY used, and is in perfect condition.
Do you think they will ever have a 50% off sale?
I wouldn’t plan on it
Would love to see the crescendo 6K amp dyno if possible
I have 4 sundown x8v3 subs, cannot seem to wire them to 2 ohms!??? I literally followed all instructions and they don't seem to end up with the correct resistance!? Wtf am I doing wrong!? Obviously trying to hit 2ohms....
I just bought 2-10 sundown x v3, think the taramp 5k good
Can you do a test below 14v? Around 12.2v? I want to see how that low volt tech works
I no longer have this amp