From Ricciardo’s pov, this move would be very high risk. If he does better than Yuki then he’s just meeting the expectations. But if he does the same or worse, he’s ended all future chances of a seat on the grid. There is upside but still very risky
I don’t think he has any future chance of a seat at the moment. He needs to get back in anywhere he can. Because I see the perception of him as “he’s finished”. So he can’t afford to wait for “the right seat”
@Michael Conroy I highly disagree. He's only 33 (ish I don't know exactly) and he's come out as saying this year is a break and he's definitely wanting a seat somewhere. I think in a good seat he's a very talented driver and can ensure some great results but in a bad seat he gets frustrated so he just has to get a lucky break like a lot of drivers
@@night7475 It’s not about his age, it’s his confidence in his ability and self-belief. It’s gone its been clear to see ever since he left Red Bull. His aim was to be a WDC that is never going to happen because he will never be in a seat where its a possibility. So his options now are the bottom three teams, Williams, Haas and Alfa Tauri and he’s salary and car performance expectations do not align with those teams. He’s done whether he knows it or not but he is. Sad facts, i loved him but can’t deny the obvious.
Ok its risky yh sure but if he wants to continue a career in f1 then he needs a seat and if alpha tauri fails then at least he knows that he isnt good enough for f1 anymore but if u think he isnt going to take a risk then u havent watched ricciardo
@@night7475 in a good seat. He had a decent seat, known as Renault. He left that team for money, got a good seat at MClaren and was destroyed by Norris, and now the gig is up. No team with a good seat wants him, since all good teams have their driver pair. Ferrari, RB, mercedes,Aston. Those would be the seats he want, and he ain't getting them. There is no good seat left for him. All there is for him is: take any seat available, and hope it works out.
Hands up if you’re fresh from the De Vries-Danny Ric swap. Sad for Nyck, but that’s F1. Either sink or swim. Yuki was given more time because he was younger and his problems were easier to remedy. Nyck not meaning able to stick with Yuki is more difficult to tackle.
I know NDV did well when he stepped in for Albon last season BUT I’m really surprised they put him in that AT in the first place. They always say they have ‘great juniors waiting’ but didn’t put one in the car. Just felt like they run with the hype of NDV for press and it hasn’t paid off. It’s a shame they haven’t given Liam Lawson a chance. IMO he’s a brilliant driver and has turned his hand to so many series so I feel like he’s a great safe option. Just my opinion though 😅
Last year was the one year they didn't have great juniors in waiting. Hauger didn't do as good as expected last year, Lawson and Daruvala didn't impress, and one of the juniors that was expected to go to AlphaTauri dropped the hard-r and ended his career. They initially wanted to sign Herta for 2023, but the FIA didn't allow that, but once Nyck stepped in for Albon they likely saw a good alternative to Herta and signed him. I think it wasn't about hype and more so about practicality and the fact Nyck was in the right place at the right time.
@@TommoMcCluskey Definitely... If he was different gravy and proved worthy of the top RBR seat then he would help keep all the Netherlands gains made by Red Bull thanks to Max.
If anyone were to get a shot it would be Lawson. He has not only shown pace in F2 and Super Formula, he has been in the RB/AT garage for practice sessions multiple times and has been lined up for a seat there for a while. NDV getting sacked by AT would be his best shot at getting a seat in F1.
Pato consistency is absolutely insane it’s what the team needs, the fact that he’s running circles around veterans and he’s currently fighting for the championship.
@@wesleyharrison1895 dude I got to meet him after the Nashville race last year in the airport he is so funny. He talked abt f1, zak brown, and other Indy car drivers. Dude has bold opinions and isn’t afraid to say what he wants
It’s wild how we used to view Yuki as sub-par when compared to Gasly, but now we see how decent Yuki actually is when compared to a rookie. He really has driven the wheels off the AT this year
This is a stupid comment. We actually see Gasly is not better than Ocon, that means he is not a top driver and he PUMPED Yuki. AT has a bottom 5 driver and the worst driver on the grid. It shows to me AT has a much better car than their crap driver team can show. Yuki would be worse than the number 2 driver at every team except Alfa, Williams and maybe AM
I don’t get how people forget he wasn’t even the first choice for that seat. RedBull wanted Colton Herta but he didn’t get the super license, so I wouldn’t be shocked if they drop Nyck
That was before his last couple of FP1’s and impressive end to the season. Has also lit it up in Super Formula. Safety car has cost him points in two of the three races thus far
@@cricketmad27 Dunno i think De Vries does like i expected, underperforming compared to Yuki (But i expected Yuki to have a DNF by now, Yuki as a driver has matured) This guy predicted De Vries's F1 performance in November..... ruclips.net/video/MRinN13pZZ8/видео.html As a Dutchman that video sobered me up about Nyck's f1 future after so many videos on him as THE missed F1 prodigy.
Tommo's best point is to do with Nyck's age. He's an experienced racing driver you'd have to consider him like a Nico Hulkenberg for motorsport as a whole and then to come in and not perform here against Yuki is not enough really since he's expected to be a super solid established name to help Yuki refine against. For me trialling Lawson or Ricciardo for half a year is the vest choice imho.
What's there to lose right? Like, would it be unfair on Nyck? Perhaps, but what about all the other drivers who missed out on that seat? It's all relative I suppose, but his performances just aren't there yet.
@@TommoMcCluskey Feel for Nyck but the second seat at AlphaTauri is bottom barrel when it comes to expectations and after what Gasly did with Tsunoda to be so far behind is just so backwards for a driver older than Gasly to come in and underperform like that. It's never unfair though, just lining up once on that F1 grid can make someone a career and I'm sure Nyck will be annoyed if he loses it but with his talent and the prestige that comes from even just half a season at the top he will live pretty nicely in the Motorsport world now. Hopefully Lawson or Iwasa get that same chance.
>They should kick out de Vries because he's an experienced driver who's underperforming. >They should replace him with Ricciardo, an even more experienced driver who underperformed at a more capable team. Wat
I love how you brought up drivers like Stoffel Vandoorne and Pascal Wehrlein. For me they represent "the lost talents" of F1 where they had impressive junior careers but their F1 careers just never reached to that same level. I really do wish that they had more chances to showcase their talents.
Creds for mentioning Hauger and his F2 campaign. Another youtuber would've just checked the standings and put him in "eh". He got sent to Narnia by Martins in the feature race in Australia and lost a chance to get the win. He also had engine issues in the feature race in Bahrain too before the restart. Amazing and constructive video Tommo 👍
I think something to consider for Pato is that he was already signed to the Red Bull program after he won Indy Lights (now Indy NXT) in 2018 but got screwed over by changes to Super License points so they parted ways. I'm sure Red Bull still has their eye on him, especially with how well he's been doing in Indycar these past 3 seasons
Antonio is also currently racing for ferrari in WEC in what appears to be a verry fast, championship contending car, albeit with a fair bit of maturation needed for the endurance format. The current strength being top speed also puts them in contention to win the 100th Le Mans later this year with its long straights. Not sure how much he will want to ditch that for a lower end team in F1.
Ricciardo has always said that he wants to be in a top car when he returns, but I feel like that's more on the PR talking rather than reality talking. There's currently no open seat in the top teams right now and the ones that come close to ending there's no much to suggest that they won't resign. So if Ricciardo really wants to come back he has to start just like his rookie season again by starting lower down the grid before going up.
except he has almost a zero percent chance of coming in as a checo replacement when he ends up retiring which is mainly what red bull seems to be doing with alpha tauri (and is not succeeding) bc how are u going to put the dude that max is raising the child of next to max and expect that team dynamic to work
It think its just such a shame that De vries wasnt given a chance years ago, havent thought about how feasible it was back then but had he been in F1 for a few years now, I think he wouldve developed into a more confident driver. I feel like not being given that chance put him under so much more pressure to prove himself which must have added so much stress
@@TommoMcCluskey But, you can get a chance early and still get unlucky just look at Wehrline and almost Ocon. Both were dropped after struggling in bad cars one got a second chance the other didn't considering Nyck was 24 for the next F1 season after he won F2 if he was dropped after 2 years like the two above he would have been 26. For my money he wouldn't have gotten a second chance at that point unless he had shown legit pace like Ocon flashed at times and even then I am not sure.
Latifi's money was Nyck De Vries' F1 curse honestly. If not for Latifi that would have been De Vries probably and now like you said things are a little messy for Nyck's career.
I don't think Nyck was ever going to be a long term option for Red Bull. It always seemed like a Hartley or Kvyat type seat filler before others are ready
I will say one thing that I have yet to be mentioned in these De Vries videos, Is the fact that most all his testing and his race result was done in Merc machinery. It is a pretty interesting aspect of Nyck's seeming downfall that is also a factor in Ricciardo's fall from grace as well. Really makes you wonder how big of a difference there is to those engines and how they impact the overall performance envelope of the car as a whole.
Interesting point indeed, especially since Danny Ric was performing pretty well when switching from the Renault powered RB's to the Renault powered Renault team itself. It's only when he switched to the Mclaren team with a merc engine that he was struggling. Maybe the engines themselves play a big part in being comfortable in the car as well
That was really something I realized ahead of time too. When they signed him with AT, all I thought was "Oh! That's cool! But I thought that he'd for sure get a Williams seat with Albon...". I feel like if he had done so that he'd fit better with the car and would be more confident. But then again, would the difference truly be large enough between 0 points and any points in those two cars? That is a curious thing to ask because in my opinion he would've at least been in the points in at least one race had he been in a Williams instead of an AT that's only become worse. Edit: Someone mentioned before that things would've been better if Logan Sargeant got another year simmering in F2, and NDV in Williams. I massively agree.
completely agree (selfishly because I want to see Daniel in a race again) but I also think what you said about it being good for RB would make a lot of sense on that front and also agree just for the short term. quality content as always 💯
For me: - It’s Redbull and they are not against making the mid season changes (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing) - They brought in De Vries instead of a rookie of their own because they didn’t expect him to be driving like one, they thought they’d get a safe pair of hands, slower maybe but more consistent than Tsnuoda - Tsnuoda has gotten very consistent, so just actually having a rookie driver in the team would be more palatable I would feel very sorry for De Vries to have had this chance and lost it so quickly when Latifi basically bought what should’ve been his Williams seat and kept it for 3 years. But he aimed high, picked a demanding team and hasn’t been delivering. Let Lawson drive after the summer break and then compare
Absolutely hit the nail on the head with this one mate! The only prediction you got wrong was that this would happen at the summer break. Who would've thought they'd make the call 2 races earlier though?!
I literally just watched this video 20 minutes before the news broke about Daniel, crazy timing. I can’t believe they ousted de Vries before the summer break!!!
Agreed Lawson/Tsunoda for 2024 too, but I'd put him in before the start of the next season, just so he's not completely green then we can compare them better. No sense in ricc for the rest of 2023 then Lawson to start 2024.
I think the best think to do is to get Danny in there for the rest of the season. And give Lawson and Iwasa to finish off the great season that they're having and help them develop further
I think Felipe Drugovich is a incredible rookie which deserves to be in F1. He may not have have the one-lap pace that other young drivers have, but he compensates in how well he can adapt to the racecar that he is given and his great consistency. He’s finished first in the Formula E young driver test, despite him acknowledging that he never been in that type of car before. And he did a really decent job in the Bahrain testing. For a weak car such as the AlphaTauri he would be better than the F2 drivers, Lawson or Ricciardo. Felipe could be a feasible choice until they sort out their issues and get back into the midfield. He should get at least a chance, he earned it.
@@Heineck19 A domination in F2 is hard to gauge. If the field is bad or your rivals are often unlucky you can build a big gap. Russel had a similar endscore (cca 260 after sprint point correction) in less races. He had a smaller gap behind him, though, but he won over Norris, Albon and De Vries. We can only kindof gauge Sargent from the 2022 F2 field in terms of F1 performance and he doesnt seem to be an outstanding talent. So I would not rush with putting Felipe on a piedestal. Can be good but I would not put any money on it.
Gio, is currently the lead driver for Ferrari in wec so no,DK is currently preparing for the Lamborghini entry for imsa next year, Alex maybe next year he's on top in indycar, same with pato he's 2nd maybe next year the answer is Liam Lawson
I think Lawson would probably be the best choice, especially since he's done running in the car and there's not many SF clashes with F1 (save for the finale clashing with the Mexican GP).
Great video as always. One thing I'd say is to give a warning or something for the hard flash transitions - I'm a bit sensitive to these things and there could be others here too. For now I'm going to have to listen in the background rather than watch :(
I think Fitipaldi should be an option too, he is having a very unlucky start to the season, if he steps up like last year I think it would be a good option as well
I'd love to see Antonio back tbh, even taking his elf inflicted losses into account, there are enough instances beyond where he lost results/points and it was out of his control and I think he still has a lot to offer.
This whole video is highlighting Red Bull's failure to sign up the last several mega talents: Antonelli (potentially), Bearman, Piastri, Norris, Russell and Leclerc. The last time a Red Bull junior driver came in the top 2 in F2/GP2 was Gasly in 2016, and that championship campaign had the 5th lowest % of points earned in F2/GP2 out of all 18 champions since 2005. Given the size of the Red Bull junior programme, it's not a good record in recent years, and they even let Sainz go who would be a good #2 driver for RBR.
I think Pato has more overall 1 lap pace, but Palou is the more consistent and smarter driver that can get you points. Really a gamble for a safe option or someone who could mold really nicely into a top driver
Can’t teach speed. They can teach Pato better race strategy but the kid is just fast naturally. Great personality that sells well to sponsors and fans.
Well word on the street is that Alpha Tauri are very happy with the feedback Nyck is giving on the technical and development side, but obviously that's not translating into on-track performances. He needs to turn his season around pretty fast to avoid being switched out.
If Drugovich had got to race in Bahrain he’d have a seat in the grid next year. I think there is worth hanging around and hoping you get a shot in that Aston
Another great video Tommo .. I really like the analysis you put into these sorts of videos. I also think DR would be a great fit for the team plus there's another aspect to it also - assuming he does well in the last half of the season, I think he makes the team a more attractive option for an incoming entrant, be that Honda (most likely) or Andretti. He's popular, would attract an instant fan base plus merch sales, is experienced (rookie team with an 8 time race winner isn't a bad story) and would make good de facto team lead.
@@TommoMcCluskey Time will tell, he was awful in 2021 (behind Stroll in a faster car), he was awful in 2022 (crashing on pit exit, and costing AT their best points finish of the season, 12 races streak with no points) It’s been a good start to 2023, the AT looks like a points contender and De Vries is near useless. Midfield is crazy this season He’s been given more chances than anyone IMO, and he was AT’s third choice behind keeping Gasly and prying Herta from Indycar Which means NDV was plan D
I've been following Liam for the last few years. For me he's got something special going for him. He has like 7 wins on debut in different categories, so that shows he's extremely adaptable which is a sign of a top driver. As an example, in his debut win in Japan's Super Formula they didn't get to do any practice before the first Fuji race at a track he's never raced at before and yet he stormed past his team mate who is the reigning 2x champ in that series.
I just realised RedBull pulled an Uno reverse card with De Vries and Albon. They persuaded Merc to give Albon that William seat so that they could get De Vries at Alpha then to RB
But are all Russians excluded from F1? I thought Mazepin was booted because he had Russian financial backers (with ties to Putin), not because he was Russian.
I agree that Daniel is probably the best bet for a mid season swap. It gives Red Bull a reliable barometer to judge Yuki & his performances to see whether he can be the next Max Verstappen & potentially replace Checo at Red Bull in the long term and it also gives Daniel a chance to prove he’s still got it & improve his stock in the driver market so that maybe he can get something like a Mercedes seat if Lewis retires after this season. Plus having Daniel just as a stop gap leaves room for those prospects like Iwasa or Lawson to take the AlphaTauri seats next year. I wouldn’t rule out Alex Palou entirely either though. He definitely seems to want out of Chip Ganassi Racing & an F1 seat would be a very tantalizing way out for him. Although if he’s looking likely to be able to get a second IndyCar title, I’m not sure what he’d do…
I’m not 100% sure but I’m sensing a trend of people calling for the end of Nyck de Vries. It’s a bit of an underground movement; not something you’d notice on most media sites or in content creators’ vids. Oh wait.
I think if one of the RedBull drivers win the f2 or get a close battle, he would be the next alpha tauri driver, sad that Enzo didnt even was on the list
I'm actually surprised you didn't mention our boy Kamui Kobayashi 🔥🇯🇵 No, but seriously, do you think the likes of Callum Ilott, Juri Vips, Dan Ticktum have definitely lost their train?
why is there a picture of sainz when u are talking about drivers that are getting outperformed by their teammates? Last time i checked he was ahead in points and didnt crash his car 3x in 5 weekends
Tbh with your indycar and formula, wec driver shouts, I feel like De Vries has sort of burnt those bridges, at least for the public. A kid who won f2, formula E and was apparently great outside of F1 coming into F1 and being as bad as he has been really makes you question the quality of other single seater racing drivers.
Kubica is the obvious choice, I cannot stand the absence of Formula 1 branding at every Orlen petrol station after 2022. This must be rectified, regardless of him being happy in the WEC now. It's all about the greater good.
You've got it spot on. Ricciardo SHOULD be utilised by RB to get AT higher up the grid, ability wise, promotional wise, and an 8 race winner, he is the one. I don't think that RB would be expecting him to win races, but if he can use his knowledge of the RB cars that translates to AT, it's a no brainer. I think that AlphaTauri management would be salivating at the thought of have the Dan promotional machine. Let's hope common sense prevails. I agree with your comments of not judging him on the MCL stint, they were, and are still a problem car to drive.
Daniil Kyvat for a 3rd stint in f1 would be mint ngl I can see him and Yuki being a really fun pairing off-track and Daniil, at least in my opinion, was a solid driver in his time during f1
Offended that you put Sainz at the start of the video when saying “Not the only driver being outperformed by their teammate”, Sainz is ahead on points, thank you very much, Sir.
@@TommoMcCluskey Don’t wanna hear it Tommo, I’m a deluded Sainz fan and the wave of Leclerc fans already give him more than enough slander, let me have this 😭
Ricc needs to come back to gauge whether its worth keeping yuki or if we get 2 new rookies for at next year. The car doesnt appear slow and probably has rb parts.
For me, absolutely need Scott Mcglaughlin in. We overlook older drivers but having a seasoned racer who races well as a rookie could be great for the team too. His dominance in V8 supercars is followed by strong campaigns in Indycar for wins and as a title runner against seasoned teammates is a strong indication of his incredible adaptability that he acquired to go from success in powerful touring cars to high speed formula open wheelers which is incredibly impressive. Look if you can have top tier motorsport drivers be 40 ish years old, a 29 year old can still be excellent talent to utilise for a short period. If they need to test people, give them half a year each.
Alex palou rice has shown good speed in indy but does he have a super licence? In terms of ability i'd say felipe class A drugs is the best option as he has had loads of preseason testing with the current F1 car.
While I agree wholeheartedly that it would be a logical step to give Daniel the trial run in the second half of the season (it makes sense both for him and Yuki, as you said), and that Liam Lawson deserves a shot at F1, I'd consider Iwasa or Hauger for that second AT seat IF they win the F2 title. Yes, Lawson has shown adaptability, and he's definitely got the speed as far as we can tell from his career, but it would seem quite cruel to continue the herding of F2 champions in reserve roles, especially when those guys have shown top tier quality as well. And while you gotta feel for Nyck and his situation, F1 is cutthroat, and if you don't deliver (or your dad doesn't happen to own a team) - well, it is what it is.
stroll’s rookie season was nowhere remotely as bad as de vries’s has been. got a podium (lucky, yes, but still got one) and was not far off his very experienced teammate. if stroll is the pay driver you’re referring to then he’s not the right driver to compare to de vries
@@izzy3784 You make a good point. Yes, I was talking about Lance, and he has done an ok-ish job, but in this case I wasn't comparing him to Nyck, just that I feel like he's overstayed his welcome in F1. Let's be honest, with Aston Martin's ambitions, he's not the driver to put in that second seat. He's been quite far off Nando (ok, Nando is absolute top tier, but still), and Lance almost yeeted him off the road in Bahrain with a pretty amateurish error, for someone with years of F1 experience. I think Lance is just under the threshold, and if AM are going to be serious about winning a Constructors' title in the future, they'll need to replace him.
If RB are aiming to sell AT then Riccardo is the hands down winner here. He'll probably make the car look better but, more importantly, anyone buying AT will look for experience. Riccardo has raced for multiple teams & knows how a winning team works &, maybe just as importantly, what doesn't work
@@izzy3784 the cars have a weak front end. All we've learnt is that Riccardo can't drive a slow car quickly & we don't know if Lando can drive a fast car quickly. I don't think the current Maclaren team can challenge for a title & Riccardo probably knows better than anyone why.
Well done. You were logical & right. Now if he can just be kept well away from a certain young, delusional, over confident, self spruiking, unabashed egoist ...
I think you're overlooking Isack Hadjar. Very decent and very young talent, if he slaps F2 this season (so far he has not, but he might) then he should absolutely be considered. He had a stellar F3 season last year.
I was right! 🎉
I love watching these videos late when I already know the answer
Well done 👍 Better play the numbers.
You were right about Liam too :]
From Ricciardo’s pov, this move would be very high risk. If he does better than Yuki then he’s just meeting the expectations. But if he does the same or worse, he’s ended all future chances of a seat on the grid. There is upside but still very risky
I don’t think he has any future chance of a seat at the moment. He needs to get back in anywhere he can.
Because I see the perception of him as “he’s finished”. So he can’t afford to wait for “the right seat”
@Michael Conroy I highly disagree. He's only 33 (ish I don't know exactly) and he's come out as saying this year is a break and he's definitely wanting a seat somewhere. I think in a good seat he's a very talented driver and can ensure some great results but in a bad seat he gets frustrated so he just has to get a lucky break like a lot of drivers
@@night7475 It’s not about his age, it’s his confidence in his ability and self-belief. It’s gone its been clear to see ever since he left Red Bull. His aim was to be a WDC that is never going to happen because he will never be in a seat where its a possibility. So his options now are the bottom three teams, Williams, Haas and Alfa Tauri and he’s salary and car performance expectations do not align with those teams. He’s done whether he knows it or not but he is. Sad facts, i loved him but can’t deny the obvious.
Ok its risky yh sure but if he wants to continue a career in f1 then he needs a seat and if alpha tauri fails then at least he knows that he isnt good enough for f1 anymore but if u think he isnt going to take a risk then u havent watched ricciardo
@@night7475 in a good seat. He had a decent seat, known as Renault. He left that team for money, got a good seat at MClaren and was destroyed by Norris, and now the gig is up. No team with a good seat wants him, since all good teams have their driver pair. Ferrari, RB, mercedes,Aston. Those would be the seats he want, and he ain't getting them. There is no good seat left for him. All there is for him is: take any seat available, and hope it works out.
Lord Mahaveers always an option
Taki Inoue probably too, and Mika Hakkinen might be ready to finally end his sabbatical as well.
Only man to overtake multiple cars in a single Monaco corner.
Never count him out.
He tested for Alfa Romeo though, they might offer him a seat first
Why replace the best rookie driver?
Best wishes of course go out any and all in the Emilia-Romagna region that have been effected by the torrential rain and flooding.
I think Liam is made for this role, he can come into F1 get his experience then push for that 2nd RB seat
He has the potential for sure, but he ain't the only one!
@@TommoMcCluskey What about vips 😪
I am afraid he hasn't shown to be a winner over a season.
Well Vips unfortunately pulled himself out of contention. He is not even a Red Bull Junior anymore.
@@TheBlueCaptain i heard vips was better than lawson
If we can have Pato and Sergio on the Red Bull family, they’ll change the name to “Toro Rojo”
Vamosssss
You mean "Serio" @2:24
I love this 😂
Hands up if you’re fresh from the De Vries-Danny Ric swap. Sad for Nyck, but that’s F1. Either sink or swim. Yuki was given more time because he was younger and his problems were easier to remedy. Nyck not meaning able to stick with Yuki is more difficult to tackle.
I know NDV did well when he stepped in for Albon last season BUT I’m really surprised they put him in that AT in the first place. They always say they have ‘great juniors waiting’ but didn’t put one in the car. Just felt like they run with the hype of NDV for press and it hasn’t paid off.
It’s a shame they haven’t given Liam Lawson a chance. IMO he’s a brilliant driver and has turned his hand to so many series so I feel like he’s a great safe option. Just my opinion though 😅
Last year was the one year they didn't have great juniors in waiting. Hauger didn't do as good as expected last year, Lawson and Daruvala didn't impress, and one of the juniors that was expected to go to AlphaTauri dropped the hard-r and ended his career. They initially wanted to sign Herta for 2023, but the FIA didn't allow that, but once Nyck stepped in for Albon they likely saw a good alternative to Herta and signed him. I think it wasn't about hype and more so about practicality and the fact Nyck was in the right place at the right time.
@@ClayandPapyrus Lawson was insanely unlucky at the start, he should have been a close third not just barely.
This is why I think it was more with a specific aim to test him out as a long term Max no.2 - rather than the next Max y'know.
@@TommoMcCluskey Definitely... If he was different gravy and proved worthy of the top RBR seat then he would help keep all the Netherlands gains made by Red Bull thanks to Max.
Is Liam got enough superlicence points?
Scott Dixon totally fits the young drivers profile, they should consider him
Young whippersnapper
If F1 had refuelling Scott Dixon would be a championship contender even in an Alpine (or any 4th best car of the season)
I think Tony Kanaan is free too.
Liam Lawson and Yuki Tsunoda would be a good fit. A perfect person to pit Yuki against.
Immaculate vibes
They used to be house mates in the UK before Yuki went to F1.
If anyone were to get a shot it would be Lawson. He has not only shown pace in F2 and Super Formula, he has been in the RB/AT garage for practice sessions multiple times and has been lined up for a seat there for a while. NDV getting sacked by AT would be his best shot at getting a seat in F1.
True true, plus he was super impressive in DTM. Demonstrates adaptability.
@@TommoMcCluskey His adaptability could really help his case and would aid even more if they throw him into the seat mid-season.
Pato consistency is absolutely insane it’s what the team needs, the fact that he’s running circles around veterans and he’s currently fighting for the championship.
Mad impressive
Decision making has been a lil wack recently tho where as palou is consistent in both
consistently making rash dive-bombs that put other drivers in danger of getting damage; don’t think that’s so good.
@@wesleyharrison1895 dude I got to meet him after the Nashville race last year in the airport he is so funny. He talked abt f1, zak brown, and other Indy car drivers. Dude has bold opinions and isn’t afraid to say what he wants
It’s wild how we used to view Yuki as sub-par when compared to Gasly, but now we see how decent Yuki actually is when compared to a rookie. He really has driven the wheels off the AT this year
This is a stupid comment. We actually see Gasly is not better than Ocon, that means he is not a top driver and he PUMPED Yuki. AT has a bottom 5 driver and the worst driver on the grid. It shows to me AT has a much better car than their crap driver team can show. Yuki would be worse than the number 2 driver at every team except Alfa, Williams and maybe AM
He just got a lot better, that doesn't change that his rookie season wasn't good
(Of course also not crap the casual above me tries to suggest)
I don’t get how people forget he wasn’t even the first choice for that seat. RedBull wanted Colton Herta but he didn’t get the super license, so I wouldn’t be shocked if they drop Nyck
Indeedy
That was before his last couple of FP1’s and impressive end to the season. Has also lit it up in Super Formula. Safety car has cost him points in two of the three races thus far
@@cricketmad27 Dunno i think De Vries does like i expected, underperforming compared to Yuki (But i expected Yuki to have a DNF by now, Yuki as a driver has matured) This guy predicted De Vries's F1 performance in November..... ruclips.net/video/MRinN13pZZ8/видео.html As a Dutchman that video sobered me up about Nyck's f1 future after so many videos on him as THE missed F1 prodigy.
Tommo's best point is to do with Nyck's age. He's an experienced racing driver you'd have to consider him like a Nico Hulkenberg for motorsport as a whole and then to come in and not perform here against Yuki is not enough really since he's expected to be a super solid established name to help Yuki refine against.
For me trialling Lawson or Ricciardo for half a year is the vest choice imho.
What's there to lose right? Like, would it be unfair on Nyck? Perhaps, but what about all the other drivers who missed out on that seat? It's all relative I suppose, but his performances just aren't there yet.
@@TommoMcCluskey Feel for Nyck but the second seat at AlphaTauri is bottom barrel when it comes to expectations and after what Gasly did with Tsunoda to be so far behind is just so backwards for a driver older than Gasly to come in and underperform like that.
It's never unfair though, just lining up once on that F1 grid can make someone a career and I'm sure Nyck will be annoyed if he loses it but with his talent and the prestige that comes from even just half a season at the top he will live pretty nicely in the Motorsport world now. Hopefully Lawson or Iwasa get that same chance.
>They should kick out de Vries because he's an experienced driver who's underperforming.
>They should replace him with Ricciardo, an even more experienced driver who underperformed at a more capable team.
Wat
@@grahamreece519 Ricciardo proved to be capable of being a competent F1 driver, meanwhile DeBries proved to be a driver overhyped by DTS fanboys
@@massimodegrazia2192 de Vries has been "hyped up" since 2013
I love how you brought up drivers like Stoffel Vandoorne and Pascal Wehrlein. For me they represent "the lost talents" of F1 where they had impressive junior careers but their F1 careers just never reached to that same level. I really do wish that they had more chances to showcase their talents.
Kvyat in the thumbnail is a chaotic move, and I respect it.
Creds for mentioning Hauger and his F2 campaign. Another youtuber would've just checked the standings and put him in "eh". He got sent to Narnia by Martins in the feature race in Australia and lost a chance to get the win. He also had engine issues in the feature race in Bahrain too before the restart. Amazing and constructive video Tommo 👍
Your first prediction that's aged well
I think something to consider for Pato is that he was already signed to the Red Bull program after he won Indy Lights (now Indy NXT) in 2018 but got screwed over by changes to Super License points so they parted ways. I'm sure Red Bull still has their eye on him, especially with how well he's been doing in Indycar these past 3 seasons
Danny Ric back, feeling comfortable in the car (that's a big if) performing overtakes in the midfield is something I wouldn't mind seeing!
Antonio is also currently racing for ferrari in WEC in what appears to be a verry fast, championship contending car, albeit with a fair bit of maturation needed for the endurance format. The current strength being top speed also puts them in contention to win the 100th Le Mans later this year with its long straights.
Not sure how much he will want to ditch that for a lower end team in F1.
And maybe, like Brendon Hartley, WEC could be more suited to him.
Ricciardo has always said that he wants to be in a top car when he returns, but I feel like that's more on the PR talking rather than reality talking. There's currently no open seat in the top teams right now and the ones that come close to ending there's no much to suggest that they won't resign. So if Ricciardo really wants to come back he has to start just like his rookie season again by starting lower down the grid before going up.
Perhaps, it really depends on what he wants. He's already won races. Short of fighting for a title, what else is there for him to achieve?
Haas was open to signing him but he wanted superstar money when he doesn't deserve it right now, and wants to be in a top car.
@@TheImSolid don't worry about the money, my thinking is that has more to do with the Mclaren buyout rather than what he thinks his value is
Congrats Dustin, you predicted it absolutelly perfect.
Kvyat is like a boomerang, he just keeps on coming back.
Up the Kvyat
You can't keep a good man down, I guess
Torpedo boomerang sounds scary.
I hope he does not many people have his big balls driving style
except he has almost a zero percent chance of coming in as a checo replacement when he ends up retiring which is mainly what red bull seems to be doing with alpha tauri (and is not succeeding) bc how are u going to put the dude that max is raising the child of next to max and expect that team dynamic to work
It think its just such a shame that De vries wasnt given a chance years ago, havent thought about how feasible it was back then but had he been in F1 for a few years now, I think he wouldve developed into a more confident driver. I feel like not being given that chance put him under so much more pressure to prove himself which must have added so much stress
Yeah, I don't disagree. Always the risk when you don't get a shot early doors
@@TommoMcCluskey But, you can get a chance early and still get unlucky just look at Wehrline and almost Ocon. Both were dropped after struggling in bad cars one got a second chance the other didn't considering Nyck was 24 for the next F1 season after he won F2 if he was dropped after 2 years like the two above he would have been 26. For my money he wouldn't have gotten a second chance at that point unless he had shown legit pace like Ocon flashed at times and even then I am not sure.
I feel like it could be the same career arc for Drugovuch as well...
Latifi's money was Nyck De Vries' F1 curse honestly. If not for Latifi that would have been De Vries probably and now like you said things are a little messy for Nyck's career.
I don't think Nyck was ever going to be a long term option for Red Bull. It always seemed like a Hartley or Kvyat type seat filler before others are ready
I will say one thing that I have yet to be mentioned in these De Vries videos, Is the fact that most all his testing and his race result was done in Merc machinery. It is a pretty interesting aspect of Nyck's seeming downfall that is also a factor in Ricciardo's fall from grace as well. Really makes you wonder how big of a difference there is to those engines and how they impact the overall performance envelope of the car as a whole.
Interesting point indeed, especially since Danny Ric was performing pretty well when switching from the Renault powered RB's to the Renault powered Renault team itself. It's only when he switched to the Mclaren team with a merc engine that he was struggling.
Maybe the engines themselves play a big part in being comfortable in the car as well
That was really something I realized ahead of time too. When they signed him with AT, all I thought was "Oh! That's cool! But I thought that he'd for sure get a Williams seat with Albon...". I feel like if he had done so that he'd fit better with the car and would be more confident. But then again, would the difference truly be large enough between 0 points and any points in those two cars? That is a curious thing to ask because in my opinion he would've at least been in the points in at least one race had he been in a Williams instead of an AT that's only become worse.
Edit: Someone mentioned before that things would've been better if Logan Sargeant got another year simmering in F2, and NDV in Williams. I massively agree.
A all Japanese line up would be awesome. Yuki & ayumu
if they then adopt that white livery RBR had for the Suzuka GP with the arigatou on the side it's perfect!
completely agree (selfishly because I want to see Daniel in a race again) but I also think what you said about it being good for RB would make a lot of sense on that front and also agree just for the short term. quality content as always 💯
Lawson and Tsunoda were teammates in euroformulaopen and Toyota racing series. Lawson beating him in both series comfortably
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For me:
- It’s Redbull and they are not against making the mid season changes (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing)
- They brought in De Vries instead of a rookie of their own because they didn’t expect him to be driving like one, they thought they’d get a safe pair of hands, slower maybe but more consistent than Tsnuoda
- Tsnuoda has gotten very consistent, so just actually having a rookie driver in the team would be more palatable
I would feel very sorry for De Vries to have had this chance and lost it so quickly when Latifi basically bought what should’ve been his Williams seat and kept it for 3 years. But he aimed high, picked a demanding team and hasn’t been delivering. Let Lawson drive after the summer break and then compare
Absolutely hit the nail on the head with this one mate! The only prediction you got wrong was that this would happen at the summer break. Who would've thought they'd make the call 2 races earlier though?!
this aged way too well
I literally just watched this video 20 minutes before the news broke about Daniel, crazy timing. I can’t believe they ousted de Vries before the summer break!!!
Agreed Lawson/Tsunoda for 2024 too, but I'd put him in before the start of the next season, just so he's not completely green then we can compare them better. No sense in ricc for the rest of 2023 then Lawson to start 2024.
Maybe not, but I still think overall bringing in Ric does have its advantages
I think the best think to do is to get Danny in there for the rest of the season. And give Lawson and Iwasa to finish off the great season that they're having and help them develop further
I think Felipe Drugovich is a incredible rookie which deserves to be in F1. He may not have have the one-lap pace that other young drivers have, but he compensates in how well he can adapt to the racecar that he is given and his great consistency.
He’s finished first in the Formula E young driver test, despite him acknowledging that he never been in that type of car before. And he did a really decent job in the Bahrain testing.
For a weak car such as the AlphaTauri he would be better than the F2 drivers, Lawson or Ricciardo. Felipe could be a feasible choice until they sort out their issues and get back into the midfield. He should get at least a chance, he earned it.
I feel like your describing the Nyck De Vries from 4 years ago. I mean why not, if he can deliver what Nyck promised but hasn't delivered.
@@phightinphil25the difference is Felipe completely dominated F2 last year, De Vries's title was a lot less impressive
@@Heineck19 And there was at least one high end prospect that he beat out, in Theo Pourchaire.
He's dominated multiple championships too. Felipe would be very deserving of a shot
@@Heineck19 A domination in F2 is hard to gauge. If the field is bad or your rivals are often unlucky you can build a big gap.
Russel had a similar endscore (cca 260 after sprint point correction) in less races. He had a smaller gap behind him, though, but he won over Norris, Albon and De Vries. We can only kindof gauge Sargent from the 2022 F2 field in terms of F1 performance and he doesnt seem to be an outstanding talent. So I would not rush with putting Felipe on a piedestal. Can be good but I would not put any money on it.
Giving Ricciardo the second half of the year is the best option for both him and the team if Nyck doesn’t step up.
marko already confirmed ricciardo isn’t an option. it’s either gonna be lawson or ayumu iwasa (from f2) who replaces de vries if he needs replacing
This aged well
This aged like a BOSS
Gio, is currently the lead driver for Ferrari in wec so no,DK is currently preparing for the Lamborghini entry for imsa next year, Alex maybe next year he's on top in indycar, same with pato he's 2nd maybe next year the answer is Liam Lawson
I think Lawson would probably be the best choice, especially since he's done running in the car and there's not many SF clashes with F1 (save for the finale clashing with the Mexican GP).
Great video as always. One thing I'd say is to give a warning or something for the hard flash transitions - I'm a bit sensitive to these things and there could be others here too. For now I'm going to have to listen in the background rather than watch :(
Didn't think of that, appreciate the feedback Qasim!
Love the indy shout outs. Palou and pato are currently must watch racing
I think Fitipaldi should be an option too, he is having a very unlucky start to the season, if he steps up like last year I think it would be a good option as well
I'm in two minds about Enzo. I don't quite think he's at the level of the other three to be honest, but I could be wrong.
In hindsight that was a great call Tommo. Well done
I'd love to see Antonio back tbh, even taking his elf inflicted losses into account, there are enough instances beyond where he lost results/points and it was out of his control and I think he still has a lot to offer.
Agree, slightly biased as I am an Antonio fan.
@@Swellow45 Yeah same! Our man's had enough slander against him, he deserves another shot.
This whole video is highlighting Red Bull's failure to sign up the last several mega talents: Antonelli (potentially), Bearman, Piastri, Norris, Russell and Leclerc. The last time a Red Bull junior driver came in the top 2 in F2/GP2 was Gasly in 2016, and that championship campaign had the 5th lowest % of points earned in F2/GP2 out of all 18 champions since 2005. Given the size of the Red Bull junior programme, it's not a good record in recent years, and they even let Sainz go who would be a good #2 driver for RBR.
Sainz and Max didn't get on if I remember correctly. Otherwise your spot on with the analysis.
they have Iwasa Lawson and Maloney all of which look like they could be on that level
@@somenormalpie No, they don't. If you look at their records more closely you will see that.
Even RB can't always get it right!
@@phightinphil25 their families didn’t get on
There was a lot of politics going on in the background during their time as teammates
I wasn't thinking that Ricciardo would be a good idea but your arguments made me change my mind, it would just be perfect!
Good video!
Great video Tommo! Loved all the analysis that you clearly took the time to figure out. Well done. Keep ‘em comin mate.
Thanks for the shoutout Tommo👍🇧🇻
I think Pato has more overall 1 lap pace, but Palou is the more consistent and smarter driver that can get you points. Really a gamble for a safe option or someone who could mold really nicely into a top driver
Can’t teach speed. They can teach Pato better race strategy but the kid is just fast naturally. Great personality that sells well to sponsors and fans.
Well word on the street is that Alpha Tauri are very happy with the feedback Nyck is giving on the technical and development side, but obviously that's not translating into on-track performances. He needs to turn his season around pretty fast to avoid being switched out.
If Drugovich had got to race in Bahrain he’d have a seat in the grid next year. I think there is worth hanging around and hoping you get a shot in that Aston
Another great video Tommo .. I really like the analysis you put into these sorts of videos. I also think DR would be a great fit for the team plus there's another aspect to it also - assuming he does well in the last half of the season, I think he makes the team a more attractive option for an incoming entrant, be that Honda (most likely) or Andretti. He's popular, would attract an instant fan base plus merch sales, is experienced (rookie team with an 8 time race winner isn't a bad story) and would make good de facto team lead.
“They are not afraid to switch things up” except for the fact that Tsunoda is in his 3rd year there
And Gasly was there a long time as well
And now that decision is paying off no?
@@TommoMcCluskey
Time will tell, he was awful in 2021 (behind Stroll in a faster car), he was awful in 2022 (crashing on pit exit, and costing AT their best points finish of the season, 12 races streak with no points)
It’s been a good start to 2023, the AT looks like a points contender and De Vries is near useless. Midfield is crazy this season
He’s been given more chances than anyone IMO, and he was AT’s third choice behind keeping Gasly and prying Herta from Indycar
Which means NDV was plan D
I've been following Liam for the last few years. For me he's got something special going for him. He has like 7 wins on debut in different categories, so that shows he's extremely adaptable which is a sign of a top driver. As an example, in his debut win in Japan's Super Formula they didn't get to do any practice before the first Fuji race at a track he's never raced at before and yet he stormed past his team mate who is the reigning 2x champ in that series.
Anyone get this recommended after danny took the seat?
I just realised RedBull pulled an Uno reverse card with De Vries and Albon.
They persuaded Merc to give Albon that William seat so that they could get De Vries at Alpha then to RB
A Great video! Nice way of ramping up the analysis and reaching to a conclusion. DR3 is a descent choice for short term!
I would really like to see Kvyat back in F1
Imagine if he'd taken that Ferrari opportunity for 2016...
Russian. Nope.
@@procatprocat9647 I know 🥺
@@TommoMcCluskey would have been awesome for him
But are all Russians excluded from F1?
I thought Mazepin was booted because he had Russian financial backers (with ties to Putin), not because he was Russian.
This video is looking pretty good at the moment.
Ailonso 🤣🤣🤣 good one.. indeed he seems to get younger every podium
Right on great foresight, a bit sooner than expected but here we are!
The timing of this recommendation couldn’t have been better, I see it as I get the notification that Daniel has replaced him
I agree that Daniel is probably the best bet for a mid season swap. It gives Red Bull a reliable barometer to judge Yuki & his performances to see whether he can be the next Max Verstappen & potentially replace Checo at Red Bull in the long term and it also gives Daniel a chance to prove he’s still got it & improve his stock in the driver market so that maybe he can get something like a Mercedes seat if Lewis retires after this season. Plus having Daniel just as a stop gap leaves room for those prospects like Iwasa or Lawson to take the AlphaTauri seats next year.
I wouldn’t rule out Alex Palou entirely either though. He definitely seems to want out of Chip Ganassi Racing & an F1 seat would be a very tantalizing way out for him. Although if he’s looking likely to be able to get a second IndyCar title, I’m not sure what he’d do…
hate to break it to you, but dr marko has already confirmed ricciardo isn’t an option. they’re going to choose between lawson and iwasa
@@izzy3784 Oh? Guess I haven't been keeping my ear close enough to the ground. They probably can't go wrong either way with Lawson or Iwasa though.
Awesome vid man you got me into f1 now I’m addicted haha
100% agree and as a Lawson fan from NZ Lawson for 2024 would be Perfect.
I’m not 100% sure but I’m sensing a trend of people calling for the end of Nyck de Vries. It’s a bit of an underground movement; not something you’d notice on most media sites or in content creators’ vids.
Oh wait.
I think if one of the RedBull drivers win the f2 or get a close battle, he would be the next alpha tauri driver, sad that Enzo didnt even was on the list
It's gonna be tight this year, I'm sure of it.
I'm actually surprised you didn't mention our boy Kamui Kobayashi 🔥🇯🇵
No, but seriously, do you think the likes of Callum Ilott, Juri Vips, Dan Ticktum have definitely lost their train?
ilotts ship sailed years ago
Absolutely, can't see them getting in. Maaaaybe Ilott, but that's it IMO
Juri Vips is damaged goods PR-wise after his controversy.
why is there a picture of sainz when u are talking about drivers that are getting outperformed by their teammates? Last time i checked he was ahead in points and didnt crash his car 3x in 5 weekends
Reckon you've absolutely nailed this, couldn't agree more
Big agree. Liam deserves that AT seat but not until the end of his Super Formula season.
6:23 i'm glad i'm not the only one who remembers daniil kvyat
Tbh with your indycar and formula, wec driver shouts, I feel like De Vries has sort of burnt those bridges, at least for the public. A kid who won f2, formula E and was apparently great outside of F1 coming into F1 and being as bad as he has been really makes you question the quality of other single seater racing drivers.
💯👌Spot on mate 👏
You may as well have included Jacques Villeneuve 🤣🤣
I watched the Monaco E-Prix and was thoroughly impressed with Nick Cassidy, would be very happy to see him in F1
Would love to eventually see Zane Melony in the sport eventually, but I don’t think he’s quite ready yet.
Excuse me, but where is Enzo FITTIPALDI? another rb junior peforming well in F2
Favorite RUclips channel to watch
Kubica is the obvious choice, I cannot stand the absence of Formula 1 branding at every Orlen petrol station after 2022. This must be rectified, regardless of him being happy in the WEC now. It's all about the greater good.
You've got it spot on. Ricciardo SHOULD be utilised by RB to get AT higher up the grid, ability wise, promotional wise, and an 8 race winner, he is the one. I don't think that RB would be expecting him to win races, but if he can use his knowledge of the RB cars that translates to AT, it's a no brainer. I think that AlphaTauri management would be salivating at the thought of have the Dan promotional machine. Let's hope common sense prevails.
I agree with your comments of not judging him on the MCL stint, they were, and are still a problem car to drive.
Liking this video before watching just because you have Kvyat in the thumbnail.
Well, this aged like fine wine, like REALLY fine wine you'd find yourself drinking out of a shoe.
Totally agreed on Lawson! The only thing better would be an Albon and Lawson pairing. Those 2 are so fun to watch together.
Daniil Kyvat for a 3rd stint in f1 would be mint ngl
I can see him and Yuki being a really fun pairing off-track and Daniil, at least in my opinion, was a solid driver in his time during f1
Love to see some attention around Dennis Hauger! Team Norway
Offended that you put Sainz at the start of the video when saying “Not the only driver being outperformed by their teammate”, Sainz is ahead on points, thank you very much, Sir.
Having more points doesn't mean you're outperforming your teammate though.
@@TommoMcCluskey Don’t wanna hear it Tommo, I’m a deluded Sainz fan and the wave of Leclerc fans already give him more than enough slander, let me have this 😭
Ricc needs to come back to gauge whether its worth keeping yuki or if we get 2 new rookies for at next year. The car doesnt appear slow and probably has rb parts.
For me, absolutely need Scott Mcglaughlin in. We overlook older drivers but having a seasoned racer who races well as a rookie could be great for the team too. His dominance in V8 supercars is followed by strong campaigns in Indycar for wins and as a title runner against seasoned teammates is a strong indication of his incredible adaptability that he acquired to go from success in powerful touring cars to high speed formula open wheelers which is incredibly impressive.
Look if you can have top tier motorsport drivers be 40 ish years old, a 29 year old can still be excellent talent to utilise for a short period. If they need to test people, give them half a year each.
Alex palou rice has shown good speed in indy but does he have a super licence? In terms of ability i'd say felipe class A drugs is the best option as he has had loads of preseason testing with the current F1 car.
not crazy about the flashing question marks.
but props for trying out something new
I would love to see pato o’ward also because of his great personality, also he’s Mexican so the checo fans would love the combo between checo and pato
That wouldn't be good seeing how toxic the Mexican fanbase is with 1 driver being a 2nd driver. cant imagine 2, 2nd drivers.
@@lmads8023 talk about toxic lmao
While I agree wholeheartedly that it would be a logical step to give Daniel the trial run in the second half of the season (it makes sense both for him and Yuki, as you said), and that Liam Lawson deserves a shot at F1, I'd consider Iwasa or Hauger for that second AT seat IF they win the F2 title. Yes, Lawson has shown adaptability, and he's definitely got the speed as far as we can tell from his career, but it would seem quite cruel to continue the herding of F2 champions in reserve roles, especially when those guys have shown top tier quality as well.
And while you gotta feel for Nyck and his situation, F1 is cutthroat, and if you don't deliver (or your dad doesn't happen to own a team) - well, it is what it is.
stroll’s rookie season was nowhere remotely as bad as de vries’s has been. got a podium (lucky, yes, but still got one) and was not far off his very experienced teammate. if stroll is the pay driver you’re referring to then he’s not the right driver to compare to de vries
@@izzy3784 You make a good point. Yes, I was talking about Lance, and he has done an ok-ish job, but in this case I wasn't comparing him to Nyck, just that I feel like he's overstayed his welcome in F1. Let's be honest, with Aston Martin's ambitions, he's not the driver to put in that second seat. He's been quite far off Nando (ok, Nando is absolute top tier, but still), and Lance almost yeeted him off the road in Bahrain with a pretty amateurish error, for someone with years of F1 experience. I think Lance is just under the threshold, and if AM are going to be serious about winning a Constructors' title in the future, they'll need to replace him.
If RB are aiming to sell AT then Riccardo is the hands down winner here. He'll probably make the car look better but, more importantly, anyone buying AT will look for experience. Riccardo has raced for multiple teams & knows how a winning team works &, maybe just as importantly, what doesn't work
well daniel’s experience was also what convinced mclaren to hire him, and look how that turned out
@@izzy3784 the cars have a weak front end. All we've learnt is that Riccardo can't drive a slow car quickly & we don't know if Lando can drive a fast car quickly. I don't think the current Maclaren team can challenge for a title & Riccardo probably knows better than anyone why.
I wish there were 12 teams. Drivers like Shwartzman, Wehrlein, Schumacher and Lawson are not in F1 or F2 and they are worthy of being in F1.
No no not a bunch of crashtest dummy's please
Even with 10 teams. Mick should be on the grid
Daniil Kvyat will be driving Lamborghini's LMDH car alongside Romain Grosjean next year
Well done. You were logical & right. Now if he can just be kept well away from a certain young, delusional, over confident, self spruiking, unabashed egoist ...
I think you're overlooking Isack Hadjar. Very decent and very young talent, if he slaps F2 this season (so far he has not, but he might) then he should absolutely be considered. He had a stellar F3 season last year.