After reading most of your comments it looks to me like the vast majority of you actually gets a boost in smoothness when looking around instead of a general fps boost. Thank you for all your feedback, I hope this video helped you getting your sim to run a bit better and enjoying the experience some more!
Amazing!!, keep in mind, this will not make you're FPS higher, what it will do, is make the experience allot more smooth and enjoyable, thank you so much for you're contribution!!!
I am a granny and not all confident on changing such intricate technical stuff. But your video tutorial and your excellent reputation made me go for it. Changed and rebooted successfully. Thank you so much for this and all your videos.
I jst applied the changes and certanly noticed a substantial reduction on stuttering. In VR now it runs more fluid when turning my head in any direction. Many thanks for sharing! Mines is a mid-specs laptop, based on an i9 with 32Gb and an RTX2070. BR!
At first I thought it was switching off ND and I wondered why would you do it in the registry haha. Thanks for the suggestion, will check it later today
Thanks for sharing! Also a quick thanks for your amazing video series on the 737, they are a great resource for the entire flight simulation community! ;)
Can confirm this one does work (using it for a while). My advice: whenever you see a video like this, google what the NDU (Network Data Usage service) does. It gives you insight instead of just trying to change a number because you saw a video on RUclips that told you to do so (no disrespect to the uploader of the video here; all warnings were in place :) )
Much apprechiated post. Indeed it's always good to check what the background of such a tweak is and how it may work. Would have been too much information to include however for the general user, that's why I left it out.
I did this on my system last week. i7-6700k, GTX980 TI. My Issue was micro stutters that weren't too bad but, very annoying and random CTD's with the 737 mainly on approach. No more CTD's and it did smooth things out. I do not look at frames. It's either smooth or not, and it is very smooth with a mix of high an ultra settings for my system.
my game usually freezes very briefly on landings. I'll be on short final, get a micro freeze, then it'll come back as I'm touching down. very annoying. always thought this was an issue with my system but it's really just the game being unoptimized.
This works - in a comparison, before the tweak my FPS would briefly dip to about 25 when panning to the left. After the tweak, it dips 29 to 30 fps and after a few times it remains constant with no dips and no stutters. I used the default Cessna 150 at London Heathrow ( EGLL ), clear sky weather preset, parking ramp 327, time 1200 UTC Specs: Windows 11, AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 core, Nvidia RTX 3080Ti, 32 Gb RAM. Thanks, 737NG Driver - subscribed! :)
@@Dumora Yes, I have FXAA off in Nvidia control panel, as recommended elsewhere. The in-sim settings are turned up very high, however - render scaling and terrain level of detail sliders are maximum. I also have a G-Sync monitor, so 30 fps is satisfactory.
@@paulkirkland3263 Are you really sure that your terrain LOD setting is maxed out (which is 400)? If yes, you don't really need to set it above 200 as there is no noticeable visual improvement but the performance starts decreasing rapidly each time you increase this value, so I'd keep it at max. 200 and rather have a higher framerate
@@ResurrectorRTX I had TLOD set to maximum (400) to impose the maximum strain before making a comparison for this tweak, but you are right of course - a lower setting such as 200 is perfectly adequate. It's the same with things like buildings and trees - there's almost no discernible difference between High and Ultra. Thank you for the reminder and your good advice - it is very much appreciated. :)
First I heard from that tweek i didn´t want to try. But as more and more say it works and after this vid I did it. From my feelings panning around with views is much better in PMDG 737. I think midrange systems like mine benefit more from it then high end systems which anyway have good performance. I have to check tomorrow at KDFW, the airport of flying cars, most demanding airport in US on my system, if there is a improvement.
On my system, which I do consider high end, I get much better results as well. My guess is that the only systems that do not actually get any noticable increase in performance are those which ran smooth previously already.
@@A330Driver yes did a restart and verified the change was still set. I wonder how much bloatware people have running in the background, I keep a very clean system and rarely have any issues.
hey there. thanks for the video and for the tip. i just did the little tweak. during first reboot of MSFS i did not feel any change. but now i am actually seeing some smothness for sure. its like the animation scaling speed got faster. anyone with Samsung phone who change the transition scaling will know for sure what i mean. Bottom line, it works and gives a more pleasant Simming. Thanks a lot.
I was skeptical of this fix a few weeks ago, but if you're endorsing it I'm gonna give it a try! If anything goes awry, I'll just revert to a backup of my registry!
Very nice channel. Thanks for sharing. I will check this out to see if it fixes my performance woes. Unfortunately I have upgraded my CPU 1 day before you posted this.
Thank you for your quick reply. I will look at your tutorials. I used to fly the PMDG with X-Plane, but it's been a while. If I have any questions, can I get back to you? lG Guidschi🙂😉
I don't measure general fps in my simulator, it's either smooth or it isn't. Apart from those stutters when looking around it was pretty smooth before, now it's also smooth when looking around. That's the difference I notice.
@@737simviator Google flicker rate my friend. You are confusing your eyes fps (which is between 30 and 60 BTW for most of us and not 25) and the flickering of the screen. The speed of your screen refreshing allows your eyes to perceive the information as a continual stream instead of flashes of light. The higher the frequency, the less ability for humans to detect this ‘flicker’ or refreshing of the screen
@@737simviator Eyes are really complex, and to try to boil down the way they work to a single number is absolute nonsensical. Individual rods and cones in your eyes have their own rate that they deliver new information. This varies depending on whether they are a rod or a cone, their our nervous position in your eye, the hormonal condition of your body etc, but to be blunt, it's measured in the millions in "frames per second term". The "refresh rate" of your eye is not the hold up. The problem is your nervous system and your brain. I say problem, but, it's this way for a reason, and that reason is to allow you to function as a human being. Your nervous system can only transfer signals at the rate that your brain asks it too, and the brain optimises itself for different situations. If you're a world class tennis player, in the final of Wimbledon, ready to receive a break point serve, your brain will be giving everything it has to your eyes, to give you the visual fidelity you need to return that serve. This sensation is often described as "time slowing down" and people often can't remember that moment, because their brain literally stops recording memories, to give every molecule of atp to visual fidelity and nothing else. People go temporary deaf as well, because again, their brain is getting every piece of information possible from their eyes. Their "refresh rate" of individual rods and cones will be in the thousands, however, this still doesn't give us a frame rate because every rod and cone will be out of sync to each other, and some providing read information at different rates to others. How do you boil that down to a single number? More ordinarily, your brain will be managing visual information alongside dozens of other tasks and will happily give minimal attention to your eyes, rendering you blind except for certain genetic and learned danger signs. Maybe the silhouette of a parent with raised hands will snap you into fight or flight if your parents spent 18 years hitting you, but other than that, you're not seeing at all. Even, if after all those variables, you decide that it's still technically possible to come up with a single fps number for your eyes, now you've got to consider that before your brain interprets the information delivered by your eyes, it adds information to it. Information that it expects to be there but isn't. And then during interpretation, it adds yet more information, based on the content of the images it's interpreting. How do you even begin to measure the "framerate" of your imagination??!! So given how utterly unique your visual fidelity is depending on your genetics, life experience, brain chemistry etc etc etc, it's perhaps a little more clear why talking about your eye's fps doesn't make any sense, and why some people literally cannot see poor framerate and stuttering that drives other people absolutely mad. Except when they can! Someone generally happy with 20 fps can find 120fps intolerable during a dark souls boss fight because of this very reason!
@@737simviator slight of hand doesn’t work because our eyes are skipping frames. Slight of hand works because the magician makes you focus on something else besides the trick.
Hello I am Guidschi. I am new here and I have a problem with TOD by the B737-700 in MSFS. I think the is ever TOD starts to let? the sinkrate is ok and the dates are korrekt in the display, but Iám every to high by the way tio Glideslope! can I correct the point of TOD in the plane backwards so that the plane descends earlier, or is the TOD taken from the flight plan created in the simbrief letter? It would be great if you could give me a tip on how to solve the problem. regards Guidschi😊👍
Hi, the TOD is quite a complex calculation almost any VNAV equipped airplane, but the PMDG does it consitently and well for me. When all the correct data has been entered (check my tutorials for more details) it works perfectly, almost exactly like the real one.
I did not find a way to save the changes made but I guess it's saved. Anyway I still got a lot of stutter. Actually.. I did not see any difference. AMD 5600x and rtx 3060 ti. I know check the figures and its changed from 2 to 4. 👍 But there is no from before.
@@A330Driver hadn't really thought about it. I assumed it would effect all 3rd party add ons that required a browser connection through host. I only did Vatsim a few times and can't remember the process for connecting it to the sim
Oh great! After I rebooted, my computer turned into a pumpkin 🎃. Just joking of course! 🙃 I may give it a try when I’m back to my man cave later. Thanks for passing along this tip. Your videos have helped tremendously with the 737, which I love to fly and which I self learned about ten years ago. Btw, vr works (surprisingly)and incredibly well. Tschüss Captain 🧑🏻✈️
Works great for me! I flew my standard route, then shut down, did the regedit, restarted, then flew my standard route again- and it was silkier, smoother and all around a bit more enjoyable. So, thank you, cheers!
Yeah this small tweak dose make a difference. It feels much smoother and so far no issues at all. Thanks buddy helpful as always 👍 One quick question. Do you have any other graphics settings besides the ones in MSFS? For example, somthing like G force experience or somthing similar. The textures in your cockpit seem different then mine. The colors on yours look a bit more vibrant.
Who on gods green earth was able to go down that infinitely large table, and find that one single setting to change? They are one steely eyed missile man lol. 😮😁😎
Actually this method has been around for years.. So I think the OP got from another youtube tech tutorial.. All you do is type NDU memory leak fix in youtube search and there is a lot..
I think it would of been much fairer to have flown in the Sim before the tweak and then flown in the same area with the tweak showing the FPS counter by opening the Dev consul.
@@A330Driver Thank you. My simulator feels much more smoother then before. My setting is custom, but it does perform way much more better then before changing the setting. Thanks again :)
Game changer video, this need to have more views!!!, tested already in madrid an new york, stable 35 fps at 1500fts 25 to 30 from 800 - 1000 fts, the stutters almost dessapears, my specs 15 11400f + rtx 3070 +16gb 3200 and ssd nvme, 2k resolution, all in ultra, lod 200, again, IMPRESSIVE, thanks LEGEND!!
Dear mr. Boeing driver, Could you please do a tutorial on a cirkel to land approach into LOWI. Preferably coming from the RTT Ndb along with the planning via the FMC? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Much appreciated Cheers Mark
Hello my friend. I tried this out and was able to turn up my overall settings another notch. RTX 3070 OC, i7 -107000k. In game render 100, 95% in the Open XR Toolkit Companion, running most settings on high and ultra. I very rarely get a drop below 30 FPS. Hp Reverb G2. Thanks for the tip ! I have subscribed :-)
Same setup here, w 3080 and got a nice noticeable improvement in smoothness and I'm pretty sure I got some fps improvement based on some tests I did but didn't have alot of time to do more than a couple short runs but it sure seems better!
I was hoping to see some gain but sadly I saw none I I think my i7 6700k just doesn't cut it anymore gpu wise I'm sli 1080 they will run it np but sadly I'm stuck with 20-30fps on ground 40 in the air I would like just a solid 30 is all that's not much to ask is it lol But thank you mate for sharing this bit of knowledge I'm sure some people will greatly benefit FYI all ndu is pretty much just a data meter so won't hurt your system
I have an i7 6700K, single 1080. With pmdg 737 I have a solid 30 fps with settings on 'high'. I did not do any tweaking, and using no overclock of my cpu. Tested in EHAM en EGLL, no addon scenery
You can't change that intro of your videos without a warning! Now I have to see my psychiatrist! :-D I am always a little hesitant fiddling around in the registry but chances are pretty good that someone found something, that indeed has a positive impact for one specific application/use case, so it is very temtping. The feedback around this "hack" is very positive and NDU seems to be a process checking (constantly) if there had been new hardware plugged into your USB ports. So my first test will be to disable it and then plug and unplug USB devices to see if this still works and if it does and if it helps getting rid of those stutters when moving the camera, then thanks for bringing this up!
@@A330Driver Hmm it is kind of a mixed bag for me it seems. After changing the key, my PC seem to detect USB connects/disconnects slower but it still works reliably. But the „move your head fast in the cockpit“ stutters are not gone entirely for me. They seem lighter though. Anyway thanks for the hint and making a video about it. I can read that this method helped many people already.
@@A330Driver Thanks for replying I'm planning on doing training with the mcp starting from left to right learning all the functions in action while reviewing your fantastic instructional video. Thx again!
Set it back to the default values then and see if the game opens. The uploader of this Video gave plenty of warnings that changing these values can break stuff.
There are some known MSFS issues, which are unrelated to this tweak, with the sim not starting. Seems to happen mostly when you close the sim through the Ctrl+F4 shortcut or by clicking the X if you used windowed mode. As a workaround use the Esc key to go backt o the menu to close the sim and then use the exit prompt at the lower left. A reboot of the computer usually fixes it as well.
@@WinterOS We're talking about an internal Windows network data usage service that is the same for everyone so it doesn't matter what network driver you have installed
1: NDU is a monitoring tool for network usage and can only imagine it would increase performance by improving scenery loading times. I don't know how FPS would be improved with that off. 2: There is no "saving" in the registry. I advise anyone who attempts this to understand how the registry works and not poke around trying to change things as experiments.
@@A330Driver You're missing the point. Your increase in performance (is it an an FPS increase?) by disabling that service is something that's unique to your computer and most likely to how your operating system handles memory. You have other issues with your Windows install if this change increases fps.
@@Buschwick Sounds like you might be the one missing the point. It helped him and others (see comments). Whether it's a quirk tied their specific systems or not is irrelevant. I don't think they particularly care why it worked. It's enough that it worked.
Thanks! My fps were pretty okay, but I tried it a few days ago anyways. MSFS really runs a lot smoother. The occasional stuttering on airport addons (EDDM is my home base) is almost gone. As far as I know, NDU is not only there for measuring the data consumption, is has also something to do with detecting hardware changes, USB connections etc. but so far, I've noticed no differences at all. It even seems, that Windows 11 is running a little bit smoother or seems more responsive than before. I really wish Microsoft would finally fix the thread scheduler on Windows. It is constantly shuffling around processes and threads between the CPU cores. If another process like NDU needs more power, presumably for occasional checks, this really hurts. Due to architectural constraints on older AMD CPUs (everything before Zen 3: Ryzen 3000 and older) it's even worse. That's also why many programms run better on Linux (it's a little more complicated than that, but I don't want to bore you to death with technical details :D).
Just made the change to my registry and rebooted, will try it out on tonight's livestream. While I had my registry open I exported it to save a backup copy before I made the change in numbers. Thanks for sharing this!!! Update: After I made this change, rebooted and started a flight there was a notable improvement in my Sims smoothness! I need more time with it but it seemed I had better fps than my previous flight by 5 or possibly more, but as I said, I need more time I only flew a short trial flight but I was pretty happy with how it felt in flight for such a short trial so I'm ready to get back and fly some more!!
@@WinterOS not sure what your asking. i didnt install a network driver. Im guessing your trying to ask me something that didnt translate from Spanish too well?
@@WinterOS ok..apparently you don't understand..His video increased performance of my MSFS. I have no further issues. changing that value to 4 got rid of the stutters
@@papawsgaming8762 What I mean is if you tried to install the network driver and see if it works well because if you install the driver in theory you would not have this problem.
Sorry to hear that. It seems that for most people it works, but I guess we just can't have it all. In that case it's best to revert back to the original value.
@@A330Driver Thanks. Yes and unfortunately one day later i had many BSOD with my PC rebooting. No chance to start MSFS again. Even reverting that value back to 2 didn’t help. I wanted anyway to buy a new PC this year, will now have to do it right now, my PC has become unusable :-(
Why didn't you show a comparison of your 'great performance boost'. At least when you tell people to mess around with their registry it would be nice to show the actual difference ingame it makes for you. Video is 5 minutes long showing a forum page while the actual tweak part was done in 10 seconds. This tweak has been around for a while now and for lot's of people it has 0 impact on performance (including myself). So nice effort but a quick comparison to actually proof your 'great performance' would be appreciated.
I actually considered doing that, but decided against it in the end. The reason is that I'd have needed to create two identical situations for it in order to compare the two. One before and one after the change. Tweaks behave differently on all peoples computers. Even if I showed you how the change was on my machine, it might be different on yours. And then people will ask "why is it different". The overall feedback on the tweak is very good in the forum topic and on my own system I saw the huge advantage as well. For me that is enough "evidence" that it works. Most importantly though, it has been demonstrated that you won't break anything by this tweak. So if you don't like it you can always easily revert to the original setting.
@@A330Driver it's not that i don't believe you or anything and i know there's been plenty of people that have an improved experience. But i always find it a bit strange when people do these kind of videos and don't actually show the results. I mean, it's not hard to get the exact same conditions in msfs. Just don't use live weather and any kind of traffic. Same aircraft same airport same view and it's done. But it was just a request. Might do it myself if i find the time and see if there's any difference in performance that i didn't notice earlier when i tried it. I'll let you know👍 in the end everyone would benefit from it when it does work though.
@@omarliew1164 I can understand where you're line of thought is coming from. I just learned of this tweak yesterday and initially was just as sceptical as you are. Then I tried it and had great results. Thus I choose to share it with you.
Listen what he said then you will know that it didn‘t work in every system. If it don‘t work in your system didn‘t mean that it won‘t work in every system.
@@kontoauszug3998 i didn't say it doesn't work. I only asked why he didn't show us a comparison. It doesn't work for me so it would be nice to see the difference when it does work. The whole point of this video is about a performance boost. So why don't actually show the performance boost? But as he allready replied he didn't want too, there's no point in discussing. Though it makes the video less informative then it could've been.
I don't understand why decent streamers risk their reputation with snake oil fixes ... I've seen another one with a similarly useless fix recently. Sorry that's a clear thumbs down from me because this fix has been around for months and debunked many times. Better tell people to upgrade their network drivers than anything else. There was an issue in the NDU in 2018 that's been long fixed and now people waste time with this. Yes I know you will say it helped you. But it's just a rabbit hole and advising people to change their registry when they have no clue what it means is just reckless in my opinion.
The answer is - as you already pointed out - because it helped. The difference on my system is enormous. I am normally not the person to start tweaking my files, if you watched some of the Q&As in my livestream you will have heared me say many times that I did not actually do many changes to my system at all. But when I came across this one it made a real difference. You may be right in there having been an issue in 2018 that has long been fixed. Yet here I sit, try this tweak after some friends reported getting a great benefit out of it, and it works. My aim with this channel is to help people with their flying. Clearly an easy way to improve their experience fits into this category, does it not? The reactions to this video seem to confirm my assumption that not many people knew about this tweak, despite it being around for a while already.
@@voju Indeed, every system is so different that this "fix" could break more than it would do good. In my case, my system immediately started to act unstable and i got GPU artifacting as i loaded the sim, which then turned into a CTD. Not really worth the risks in my opinion.
After reading most of your comments it looks to me like the vast majority of you actually gets a boost in smoothness when looking around instead of a general fps boost.
Thank you for all your feedback, I hope this video helped you getting your sim to run a bit better and enjoying the experience some more!
To be honest, as a simmer who's already used to low fps anyway, that is all I need.
YA no more FPS but when you dont GET microstutters it feels like you got 100 fps boost
Changes in the registry are always saved instantly. No need to save anything, that's why there is no button.
Which is why I always make a copy of my registry and save it before I make a change in mine.
Amazing!!, keep in mind, this will not make you're FPS higher, what it will do, is make the experience allot more smooth and enjoyable, thank you so much for you're contribution!!!
I am a granny and not all confident on changing such intricate technical stuff. But your video tutorial and your excellent reputation made me go for it. Changed and rebooted successfully. Thank you so much for this and all your videos.
hi granny
I love that you went for it and how simple it was for you when you have great instructions on exactly what to do and then do it! Congratulations!!!
I jst applied the changes and certanly noticed a substantial reduction on stuttering. In VR now it runs more fluid when turning my head in any direction. Many thanks for sharing! Mines is a mid-specs laptop, based on an i9 with 32Gb and an RTX2070. BR!
At first I thought it was switching off ND and I wondered why would you do it in the registry haha. Thanks for the suggestion, will check it later today
you can also do this in command prompt with 'SC CONFIG NDU START=DISABLED' and use 'SC CONFIG NDU=AUTO' to turn back on. Use admin rights.
Thanks for sharing! Also a quick thanks for your amazing video series on the 737, they are a great resource for the entire flight simulation community! ;)
Thx for helping me with vatsim ;)
2 flghts done, very smooth landing in LSZH, yes it is an improvement, thank you for the tip!
nice, will try it out. Looks like it got buried on the forum as well. thanks for bringing it back up!
Absolutely awesome!
I have a i9 9900 running at 4.6 ghz with a 3080ti. I tried your tip and "WOW" it works. Thanks your wonderful help.
Can confirm this one does work (using it for a while). My advice: whenever you see a video like this, google what the NDU (Network Data Usage service) does. It gives you insight instead of just trying to change a number because you saw a video on RUclips that told you to do so (no disrespect to the uploader of the video here; all warnings were in place :) )
Much apprechiated post. Indeed it's always good to check what the background of such a tweak is and how it may work.
Would have been too much information to include however for the general user, that's why I left it out.
I did this on my system last week. i7-6700k, GTX980 TI. My Issue was micro stutters that weren't too bad but, very annoying and random CTD's with the 737 mainly on approach. No more CTD's and it did smooth things out. I do not look at frames. It's either smooth or not, and it is very smooth with a mix of high an ultra settings for my system.
I am glad that there are other people that have these ctds or literally 2fps on the approach with the 737. Thought my game is broke
my game usually freezes very briefly on landings. I'll be on short final, get a micro freeze, then it'll come back as I'm touching down. very annoying. always thought this was an issue with my system but it's really just the game being unoptimized.
Haha GTx980Ti looooooooooool
@@ironEagleWings73 What's so funny about this card? What do you have then?
Works for me - a lot smoother with the Fenix
This works - in a comparison, before the tweak my FPS would briefly dip to about 25 when panning to the left. After the tweak, it dips 29 to 30 fps and after a few times it remains constant with no dips and no stutters. I used the default Cessna 150 at London Heathrow ( EGLL ), clear sky weather preset, parking ramp 327, time 1200 UTC Specs: Windows 11, AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 core, Nvidia RTX 3080Ti, 32 Gb RAM.
Thanks, 737NG Driver - subscribed! :)
Very good to hear it worked Paul!
Still a low performance for this formidable hardware. Nvidia FXAA is off?
@@Dumora Yes, I have FXAA off in Nvidia control panel, as recommended elsewhere. The in-sim settings are turned up very high, however - render scaling and terrain level of detail sliders are maximum. I also have a G-Sync monitor, so 30 fps is satisfactory.
@@paulkirkland3263 Are you really sure that your terrain LOD setting is maxed out (which is 400)? If yes, you don't really need to set it above 200 as there is no noticeable visual improvement but the performance starts decreasing rapidly each time you increase this value, so I'd keep it at max. 200 and rather have a higher framerate
@@ResurrectorRTX I had TLOD set to maximum (400) to impose the maximum strain before making a comparison for this tweak, but you are right of course - a lower setting such as 200 is perfectly adequate. It's the same with things like buildings and trees - there's almost no discernible difference between High and Ultra. Thank you for the reminder and your good advice - it is very much appreciated. :)
First I heard from that tweek i didn´t want to try. But as more and more say it works and after this vid I did it. From my feelings panning around with views is much better in PMDG 737. I think midrange systems like mine benefit more from it then high end systems which anyway have good performance. I have to check tomorrow at KDFW, the airport of flying cars, most demanding airport in US on my system, if there is a improvement.
On my system, which I do consider high end, I get much better results as well. My guess is that the only systems that do not actually get any noticable increase in performance are those which ran smooth previously already.
No difference for me, but the Sim already runs very well for me.
Appreciate the suggestion either way, we can always use more smoothness ;)
And you did restart the pc after applying the tweak?
I guess if it runs smooth already you can't really gain a lot, right?
@@A330Driver yes did a restart and verified the change was still set.
I wonder how much bloatware people have running in the background, I keep a very clean system and rarely have any issues.
Is this setting still valid today?
hey there. thanks for the video and for the tip. i just did the little tweak. during first reboot of MSFS i did not feel any change. but now i am actually seeing some smothness for sure. its like the animation scaling speed got faster. anyone with Samsung phone who change the transition scaling will know for sure what i mean.
Bottom line, it works and gives a more pleasant Simming.
Thanks a lot.
I was skeptical of this fix a few weeks ago, but if you're endorsing it I'm gonna give it a try! If anything goes awry, I'll just revert to a backup of my registry!
That's exactly it! Back a backup and if it doesn't work, just revert.
Hey Emanuel, do you still keep your NDU off currently? Seems to be controversial?
Very nice channel. Thanks for sharing. I will check this out to see if it fixes my performance woes. Unfortunately I have upgraded my CPU 1 day before you posted this.
Did this weeks ago. Huge difference.
Les vues extérieures sont plus fluides, moins de saccades. Great ! Merci beaucoup pour l’astuce ! Good flights !
Thank you for your quick reply. I will look at your tutorials. I used to fly the PMDG with X-Plane, but it's been a while. If I have any questions, can I get back to you?
lG Guidschi🙂😉
You can surely post them, but you'll likely get quicker answers by posting in the PMDG forums.
This actually works... i have 10fps boost! Thanks!!!
In terms of FPS, did you notice any improvement or is it just the microstutters that disappeared for you?
I don't measure general fps in my simulator, it's either smooth or it isn't. Apart from those stutters when looking around it was pretty smooth before, now it's also smooth when looking around.
That's the difference I notice.
@@737simviator - lol, false. What a silly thing to keep saying.
@@737simviator Google flicker rate my friend. You are confusing your eyes fps (which is between 30 and 60 BTW for most of us and not 25) and the flickering of the screen. The speed of your screen refreshing allows your eyes to perceive the information as a continual stream instead of flashes of light. The higher the frequency, the less ability for humans to detect this ‘flicker’ or refreshing of the screen
@@737simviator Eyes are really complex, and to try to boil down the way they work to a single number is absolute nonsensical. Individual rods and cones in your eyes have their own rate that they deliver new information. This varies depending on whether they are a rod or a cone, their our nervous position in your eye, the hormonal condition of your body etc, but to be blunt, it's measured in the millions in "frames per second term". The "refresh rate" of your eye is not the hold up.
The problem is your nervous system and your brain. I say problem, but, it's this way for a reason, and that reason is to allow you to function as a human being. Your nervous system can only transfer signals at the rate that your brain asks it too, and the brain optimises itself for different situations.
If you're a world class tennis player, in the final of Wimbledon, ready to receive a break point serve, your brain will be giving everything it has to your eyes, to give you the visual fidelity you need to return that serve. This sensation is often described as "time slowing down" and people often can't remember that moment, because their brain literally stops recording memories, to give every molecule of atp to visual fidelity and nothing else. People go temporary deaf as well, because again, their brain is getting every piece of information possible from their eyes. Their "refresh rate" of individual rods and cones will be in the thousands, however, this still doesn't give us a frame rate because every rod and cone will be out of sync to each other, and some providing read information at different rates to others. How do you boil that down to a single number?
More ordinarily, your brain will be managing visual information alongside dozens of other tasks and will happily give minimal attention to your eyes, rendering you blind except for certain genetic and learned danger signs. Maybe the silhouette of a parent with raised hands will snap you into fight or flight if your parents spent 18 years hitting you, but other than that, you're not seeing at all.
Even, if after all those variables, you decide that it's still technically possible to come up with a single fps number for your eyes, now you've got to consider that before your brain interprets the information delivered by your eyes, it adds information to it. Information that it expects to be there but isn't. And then during interpretation, it adds yet more information, based on the content of the images it's interpreting. How do you even begin to measure the "framerate" of your imagination??!!
So given how utterly unique your visual fidelity is depending on your genetics, life experience, brain chemistry etc etc etc, it's perhaps a little more clear why talking about your eye's fps doesn't make any sense, and why some people literally cannot see poor framerate and stuttering that drives other people absolutely mad. Except when they can! Someone generally happy with 20 fps can find 120fps intolerable during a dark souls boss fight because of this very reason!
@@737simviator slight of hand doesn’t work because our eyes are skipping frames. Slight of hand works because the magician makes you focus on something else besides the trick.
Thanks a lot Captain.
I have the same system specs as you and have noted a better frame rate and smoothness albeit rendering scaling set at 150
Hello I am Guidschi. I am new here and I have a problem with TOD by the B737-700 in MSFS. I think the is ever TOD starts to let? the sinkrate is ok and the dates are korrekt in the display, but Iám every to high by the way tio Glideslope! can I correct the point of TOD in the plane backwards so that the plane descends earlier, or is the TOD taken from the flight plan created in the simbrief letter? It would be great if you could give me a tip on how to solve the problem. regards Guidschi😊👍
Hi, the TOD is quite a complex calculation almost any VNAV equipped airplane, but the PMDG does it consitently and well for me.
When all the correct data has been entered (check my tutorials for more details) it works perfectly, almost exactly like the real one.
you are the one !!
Boom. Great vids.
THANK YOU!!! Now my camera looks a looot smoother and killed stutter on Fenix A320!!
What is the cost of turning off the data analytics? Does this switch off antivirus ability to monitor my internet?
I did not find a way to save the changes made but I guess it's saved. Anyway I still got a lot of stutter. Actually.. I did not see any difference. AMD 5600x and rtx 3060 ti.
I know check the figures and its changed from 2 to 4. 👍 But there is no from before.
Tanks for the feedback. Indeed, no need to save it, that was my mistake in the video.
Thanks for sharing
I found out I get random consistent disconnects from the PilotEdge network with this tweek.
Interesting, I'm using vatsim and have no such issues.
I'll take note of it, have you tried to talk to the pilot edge people about it?
@@A330Driver hadn't really thought about it. I assumed it would effect all 3rd party add ons that required a browser connection through host. I only did Vatsim a few times and can't remember the process for connecting it to the sim
I'll definitely give it a try
Now if asobo can get rid of the breakpoint A reached and ctd
Oh great! After I rebooted, my computer turned into a pumpkin 🎃. Just joking of course! 🙃 I may give it a try when I’m back to my man cave later. Thanks for passing along this tip. Your videos have helped tremendously with the 737, which I love to fly and which I self learned about ten years ago. Btw, vr works (surprisingly)and incredibly well. Tschüss Captain 🧑🏻✈️
Works great for me! I flew my standard route, then shut down, did the regedit, restarted, then flew my standard route again- and it was silkier, smoother and all around a bit more enjoyable. So, thank you, cheers!
until the next patch when Microsoft realise they are missing out on farming data
Most likely 😂😂😂
Have you had any problems with your USBs after doing this?
No, not at all. If you have any unexpected problems I'd recommend reverting to the original number straight away.
So has anyone tried another number other than 4? why was 4 chosen?? just wondered
Yeah this small tweak dose make a difference. It feels much smoother and so far no issues at all. Thanks buddy helpful as always 👍
One quick question. Do you have any other graphics settings besides the ones in MSFS? For example, somthing like G force experience or somthing similar. The textures in your cockpit seem different then mine. The colors on yours look a bit more vibrant.
I'm not using any different tools than the default MSFS tools. And in fact I haven't really changed anything there. It's mostly default settings.
@@A330Driver right on, thank you for the reply.
no difference for me. i9 and 3080ti. If I had to say faster or slower? I'd say same or slower.
Too bad, best to revert the tweak to the original numbers then.
Who on gods green earth was able to go down that infinitely large table, and find that one single setting to change? They are one steely eyed missile man lol. 😮😁😎
Actually this method has been around for years.. So I think the OP got from another youtube tech tutorial.. All you do is type NDU memory leak fix in youtube search and there is a lot..
Is there a catch in this? Something that we loose because we are not sending that specific data?
None that I'm aware of
@@A330Driver Thanks
Thanks for the this , do you think it would benefit VR?
I think so but haven't actually tested it yet.
Just tested it in VR using PIMAX Crystal, ultrasmooth!
I think it would of been much fairer to have flown in the Sim before the tweak and then flown in the same area with the tweak showing the FPS counter by opening the Dev consul.
It does not improve FPS ,,,just makes it smoother .
Hello Emi, will you leave this tweak in place when SU10 comes out or reverse it back? I curious if the new update will just override it. Thanks!
This works only with pmdg, or with any other aircraft it works too?
It worked with the Fenix 320 and the JustFlight 146 as well on my system.
Thank you yet again.
Stunning!
Best
Barty
Besides the nice tip> is windows 10 or windows 11 better smoothness for MSFS 2020 !? thx in advance
I'm using Windows 10, have not used Windows 11 yet. Thus I can't compare the two, sorry.
Also there is another boost with Nvidia cleaner great improvment for nvidia users
Haven't actually tried that one, how does it work and what does it do?
@@A330Driver kind of a clean installation of your driver ruclips.net/video/-q6ZJIUnoqg/видео.html at least for me worked.
Relying on RUclipsrs to disable a Microsoft "feature" that has no benefits and negatively effects everyone... Typical. Anyway, thanks!
Thank you Sir✈️🙌🏻 It works on my system and it’s beautiful! Thanks for all🤩
Does this apply to RTX3090 and Windows 11 only?
I'm using Win10 with a 3080Ti so the answer is definitely NO.
Does it effect other games, or can i keep it off thrue while time ?
I'm not aware of effects on other games, but I wouldn't promise that there are none.
Does this applies to 2080? I notice you are using 3000 series.
Works with most of the setups I've seen so far.
@@A330Driver Thank you. My simulator feels much more smoother then before. My setting is custom, but it does perform way much more better then before changing the setting. Thanks again :)
Zero improvement for me, besides slightly smoother camera movement on cruise alt perhaps
which is not zero ;)
That's also an improvement, is it?
@@A330Driver Tbh, you're right, although it's unfortunate that it didn't do much else for me
Would this improve other games as well?
Potentially yes, depends on what's limiting the other game of course.
@@A330Driver thanks a lot! I'll give it a shot.
Game changer video, this need to have more views!!!, tested already in madrid an new york, stable 35 fps at 1500fts 25 to 30 from 800 - 1000 fts, the stutters almost dessapears, my specs 15 11400f + rtx 3070 +16gb 3200 and ssd nvme, 2k resolution, all in ultra, lod 200, again, IMPRESSIVE, thanks LEGEND!!
with your RTX 3080Ti you should be smooth anyway. Those with lower spec cards will still struggle for smoothness
There always a setting that can get you down to single digit fps, regardless of the software you're using LOL
Dear mr. Boeing driver,
Could you please do a tutorial on a cirkel to land approach into LOWI.
Preferably coming from the RTT Ndb along with the planning via the FMC?
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Much appreciated
Cheers Mark
Considered, thanks!
You might enjoy this video:
ruclips.net/video/DXWpixds49k/видео.html
Thank you i’ll try this. I’m also confident in the best 737 driver on youtube !
And do it again every time Windows updates itself.
Ot just use a tool like OOShutUpWindows and it turns all that background crap off.
Thanks, I wasn't aware of this!
Hello my friend. I tried this out and was able to turn up my overall settings another notch. RTX 3070 OC, i7 -107000k. In game render 100, 95% in the Open XR Toolkit Companion, running most settings on high and ultra. I very rarely get a drop below 30 FPS. Hp Reverb G2. Thanks for the tip ! I have subscribed :-)
Same setup here, w 3080 and got a nice noticeable improvement in smoothness and I'm pretty sure I got some fps improvement based on some tests I did but didn't have alot of time to do more than a couple short runs but it sure seems better!
I was hoping to see some gain but sadly I saw none I I think my i7 6700k just doesn't cut it anymore gpu wise I'm sli 1080 they will run it np but sadly I'm stuck with 20-30fps on ground 40 in the air I would like just a solid 30 is all that's not much to ask is it lol
But thank you mate for sharing this bit of knowledge I'm sure some people will greatly benefit
FYI all ndu is pretty much just a data meter so won't hurt your system
I have a 5800x and 3080, also no change for me but sim runs well already.
And you did restart the computer afterwards? Without restart it won't take effect.
I have an i7 6700K, single 1080. With pmdg 737 I have a solid 30 fps with settings on 'high'. I did not do any tweaking, and using no overclock of my cpu. Tested in EHAM en EGLL, no addon scenery
You can't change that intro of your videos without a warning! Now I have to see my psychiatrist! :-D I am always a little hesitant fiddling around in the registry but chances are pretty good that someone found something, that indeed has a positive impact for one specific application/use case, so it is very temtping. The feedback around this "hack" is very positive and NDU seems to be a process checking (constantly) if there had been new hardware plugged into your USB ports. So my first test will be to disable it and then plug and unplug USB devices to see if this still works and if it does and if it helps getting rid of those stutters when moving the camera, then thanks for bringing this up!
Please let us know how these tests worked out!
@@A330Driver Hmm it is kind of a mixed bag for me it seems. After changing the key, my PC seem to detect USB connects/disconnects slower but it still works reliably. But the „move your head fast in the cockpit“ stutters are not gone entirely for me. They seem lighter though. Anyway thanks for the hint and making a video about it. I can read that this method helped many people already.
Thank you mate for helping us simmers out. A +1 for you
Does this help with vr also?
Thx
It should, but I have not actually been able to try it as I'm not using VR.
@@A330Driver
Thanks for replying
I'm planning on doing training with the mcp starting from left to right learning all the functions in action while reviewing your fantastic instructional video.
Thx again!
Why you don't show an example before and after of your recomendations???? Honestly, I really don't believe you
I'm not going to force you to believe it.
How do you get the runway light so bloomy / star?
It's a real photo, not a flight sim screenshot ;-)
@@A330Driver aah, couldnt tell the difference. And im a msfs entusiast. Would love the star flares on msfs 2020, so nice!!
@@-OEG Now what does that tell us about the graphics of MSFS? It's pretty darn good, isn't it? ;-)
@@A330Driver hehe, its amazing!!
I did this and now it won’t even open MSFS
Set it back to the default values then and see if the game opens. The uploader of this Video gave plenty of warnings that changing these values can break stuff.
@@lukasbaumgartner169 I changed it back and still no luck. I am doing a re-install currently.
There are some known MSFS issues, which are unrelated to this tweak, with the sim not starting. Seems to happen mostly when you close the sim through the Ctrl+F4 shortcut or by clicking the X if you used windowed mode.
As a workaround use the Esc key to go backt o the menu to close the sim and then use the exit prompt at the lower left.
A reboot of the computer usually fixes it as well.
magnifico
I have just tried this tweek, amazing improvement, thank you for this.
What network driver you have install?
@@WinterOS We're talking about an internal Windows network data usage service that is the same for everyone so it doesn't matter what network driver you have installed
@@ResurrectorRTX some systems with the last network driver works fine without disable this
Thanks a lot for a great advise - installed ans working fine
1: NDU is a monitoring tool for network usage and can only imagine it would increase performance by improving scenery loading times. I don't know how FPS would be improved with that off.
2: There is no "saving" in the registry. I advise anyone who attempts this to understand how the registry works and not poke around trying to change things as experiments.
Normally I'd agree that it's not a very good idea to change something in the registry, but in this case it just works too well.
@@A330Driver You're missing the point. Your increase in performance (is it an an FPS increase?) by disabling that service is something that's unique to your computer and most likely to how your operating system handles memory. You have other issues with your Windows install if this change increases fps.
@@Buschwick Sounds like you might be the one missing the point. It helped him and others (see comments). Whether it's a quirk tied their specific systems or not is irrelevant. I don't think they particularly care why it worked. It's enough that it worked.
Thanks! My fps were pretty okay, but I tried it a few days ago anyways. MSFS really runs a lot smoother. The occasional stuttering on airport addons (EDDM is my home base) is almost gone. As far as I know, NDU is not only there for measuring the data consumption, is has also something to do with detecting hardware changes, USB connections etc. but so far, I've noticed no differences at all. It even seems, that Windows 11 is running a little bit smoother or seems more responsive than before.
I really wish Microsoft would finally fix the thread scheduler on Windows. It is constantly shuffling around processes and threads between the CPU cores. If another process like NDU needs more power, presumably for occasional checks, this really hurts. Due to architectural constraints on older AMD CPUs (everything before Zen 3: Ryzen 3000 and older) it's even worse. That's also why many programms run better on Linux (it's a little more complicated than that, but I don't want to bore you to death with technical details :D).
Just made the change to my registry and rebooted, will try it out on tonight's livestream. While I had my registry open I exported it to save a backup copy before I made the change in numbers. Thanks for sharing this!!!
Update: After I made this change, rebooted and started a flight there was a notable improvement in my Sims smoothness! I need more time with it but it seemed I had better fps than my previous flight by 5 or possibly more, but as I said, I need more time I only flew a short trial flight but I was pretty happy with how it felt in flight for such a short trial so I'm ready to get back and fly some more!!
Great to hear!
You sound german, are you german? if so, me too :) Servus
Moin, Jo!
Unfortunately CTD with that setting..
I'm sorry to hear this, does it at least work again when you revert to the original value?
no extra FPS but NO MORE STUTTER!!!!! thank you!
Do you still use this configuration?
I love you
Just did this tweak....uhm..can i marry you??? holy cow what a difference
What network driver you have install?
@@WinterOS not sure what your asking. i didnt install a network driver. Im guessing your trying to ask me something that didnt translate from Spanish too well?
@@WinterOS ok..apparently you don't understand..His video increased performance of my MSFS. I have no further issues. changing that value to 4 got rid of the stutters
@@papawsgaming8762 What I mean is if you tried to install the network driver and see if it works well because if you install the driver in theory you would not have this problem.
@@papawsgaming8762 In most cases if you have installed the network driver this trick is not necessary.
No differences here...
Sorry to hear that. It seems that for most people it works, but I guess we just can't have it all. In that case it's best to revert back to the original value.
@@A330Driver Thanks. Yes and unfortunately one day later i had many BSOD with my PC rebooting. No chance to start MSFS again. Even reverting that value back to 2 didn’t help. I wanted anyway to buy a new PC this year, will now have to do it right now, my PC has become unusable :-(
comment so i can commeback and see
Why didn't you show a comparison of your 'great performance boost'. At least when you tell people to mess around with their registry it would be nice to show the actual difference ingame it makes for you. Video is 5 minutes long showing a forum page while the actual tweak part was done in 10 seconds. This tweak has been around for a while now and for lot's of people it has 0 impact on performance (including myself). So nice effort but a quick comparison to actually proof your 'great performance' would be appreciated.
I actually considered doing that, but decided against it in the end.
The reason is that I'd have needed to create two identical situations for it in order to compare the two. One before and one after the change.
Tweaks behave differently on all peoples computers. Even if I showed you how the change was on my machine, it might be different on yours. And then people will ask "why is it different".
The overall feedback on the tweak is very good in the forum topic and on my own system I saw the huge advantage as well. For me that is enough "evidence" that it works.
Most importantly though, it has been demonstrated that you won't break anything by this tweak. So if you don't like it you can always easily revert to the original setting.
@@A330Driver it's not that i don't believe you or anything and i know there's been plenty of people that have an improved experience. But i always find it a bit strange when people do these kind of videos and don't actually show the results. I mean, it's not hard to get the exact same conditions in msfs. Just don't use live weather and any kind of traffic. Same aircraft same airport same view and it's done. But it was just a request. Might do it myself if i find the time and see if there's any difference in performance that i didn't notice earlier when i tried it. I'll let you know👍 in the end everyone would benefit from it when it does work though.
@@omarliew1164 I can understand where you're line of thought is coming from. I just learned of this tweak yesterday and initially was just as sceptical as you are. Then I tried it and had great results. Thus I choose to share it with you.
Listen what he said then you will know that it didn‘t work in every system. If it don‘t work in your system didn‘t mean that it won‘t work in every system.
@@kontoauszug3998 i didn't say it doesn't work. I only asked why he didn't show us a comparison. It doesn't work for me so it would be nice to see the difference when it does work. The whole point of this video is about a performance boost. So why don't actually show the performance boost? But as he allready replied he didn't want too, there's no point in discussing. Though it makes the video less informative then it could've been.
I don't understand why decent streamers risk their reputation with snake oil fixes ... I've seen another one with a similarly useless fix recently. Sorry that's a clear thumbs down from me because this fix has been around for months and debunked many times. Better tell people to upgrade their network drivers than anything else. There was an issue in the NDU in 2018 that's been long fixed and now people waste time with this. Yes I know you will say it helped you. But it's just a rabbit hole and advising people to change their registry when they have no clue what it means is just reckless in my opinion.
The answer is - as you already pointed out - because it helped. The difference on my system is enormous.
I am normally not the person to start tweaking my files, if you watched some of the Q&As in my livestream you will have heared me say many times that I did not actually do many changes to my system at all. But when I came across this one it made a real difference. You may be right in there having been an issue in 2018 that has long been fixed. Yet here I sit, try this tweak after some friends reported getting a great benefit out of it, and it works.
My aim with this channel is to help people with their flying. Clearly an easy way to improve their experience fits into this category, does it not?
The reactions to this video seem to confirm my assumption that not many people knew about this tweak, despite it being around for a while already.
@@A330Driver well good if it helps you. My opinion as a software engineer is distributing/sharing such hacks does more harm than good.
@@voju Indeed, every system is so different that this "fix" could break more than it would do good. In my case, my system immediately started to act unstable and i got GPU artifacting as i loaded the sim, which then turned into a CTD. Not really worth the risks in my opinion.