The most all around, MULTI STYLISTIC, ass kicking, groove oriented, super skilled player of our generation. EVERYONE is in awe or simply uneducated and simple-minded.
Plus, he has provided us all with an incredible link in the historical chain. Taking what Tony Williams and Steve Gadd did, and carrying the torch beyond that. He has revolutionized the way we all play the drums.
phil collins is up there with the best of them it dont matter how many riffs hes got hes got his own unique stile drummers,bass players are the back bone and to watch them live is awsome grove on!
Dude i have listened to tons of Vinnie and Marco stuff and i own the Extreme Drumming dvd you mentioned and i can honestly say that Vinnie can play anything Marco does on that dvd with ease. Vinnie is one of if not the best sight readers of music in the world which means he can pretty much play anything. Listen to some of Vinnie's stuff with chick corea or do a search on here for Live at the Blue Note. Marco would most likely tell you himself that he can't touch Vinnie.
Dude trust me when i say that Vinnie has every bit of interdependence skills that marco has but he is not concerned really with the academic side of music so you rarely see it. That guy has played any and all types of drumming in his career at one point or another. Dont get me wrong Marco is great. I love the song "threesome" on his dvd, his independence in that is nuts but if you dont think Vinnie could do that... you haven't listened to enough of his drumming.
It's a little known fact that Vinnie's career in porn equaled his percussive accomplishments. The music in this clip was actually used in one of his earliest films--"Busy with the Beavers." His money shot rivaled Peter North's. And all of this derived from an absurd mustache...
nice! either it be vinnie, phil collins,stev gadd,buddy rich, steve ferone,they all got there different stiles and thats way kool. its good to here all these pro drummers make a song sound awesome keep grovin
at a certain point in his career Colaiuta may have been overtly concerned with technique but I'd argue that he has long since transcended that prepoccupation, anyway as far back as Joe's Garage there are examples of flawless groove playing
I'll tell you what is "eighties" is Vinnie's hairdo in this video...I would call it the "Progressive Jazzulet"...The cool jazz and progressive rock player's mullet.
We all know the basics. Daily practice even on just single stroke, arm/wrist/finger, french/german, open/close, moeller, etc. Then move on to double stroke, one handed roll, open roll, etc. An hour a day is not enough to get them right and get them fast, not to mention not becoming a technical giant that forgets about music. I am one to say I will never be as good as them, ie., Rich, Blakey, Weckl, Vinnie, JoJo, Morello, Smith, etc. sad reality for a man to deal with.
I have an old video of Vinnie posted, and its amazing how many guys will say he sucks, then go on and tell me Vinnie should listen to Mike Portnoy or Travis Barker... I usually remove those posts, but occasionally I leave 1 up, so everyone can see how ignorant some people are! Colaiuta is in my opinion, the greatest drummer ever. He's so far ahead of everyone else, and has been for 30 years now...
comparing musicians is kind of pointless anyway.Music is ART. Who is better?it s so subjective. IT s all about what the artist wants to do.Vinnie could practice the stuff marco does and he would have it down, propably in a short time,, and opposite,! Vinnie likes to play music, thats why he got so good at it and he is the #1 drummer for hire.
I don't care what you say, this dude is a sick @#$%!&$ maniac!! Just think- this was "high-tech"! This is the first "old-school" Vinnie I've ever seen. '83-wow, I was 12 freakin' years old! Vinnie, go 'head you old goat, you! lol
I absolutely agree with you and i didn't mean to get all confrontational. I was just talking about Marco's skill opposed to Vinnie's but you're right all this is bullshit. In the end it's about the music.
How does Phil Collins get to be in the same group as Vinnie Colaiuta? Vinnie played for FZ, with like 14 different time sigs per songs as well as "polyrhythems" during his solos and such.
true,,! I have seen extreme drumming! he s great at what he does. I like vinnie more cause he is more about the music.he s the only drummer ever that has played with artists from Sting, to chick corea, to megadeth! No dvd, no books. he didnt even have a website only a year ago. It looks like he only wants to play music.
sure, that's true, but I disagree, you can compare, differences in technical proffiency are clear, so if that's what gets someone excited about certain drummers, comparison is normal. Obviously there is no such thing as "the best" but some guys just practice more and it shows in how they express themselves on the kit. Of course some are better at certain things than others, but no one can be masterful at everything to an equal degree.
Phil Collins in a class with Vinnie and Bozzio etc? That actually made me laugh a little and then I felt a little vomit creep up into my mouth. Phil Collins is a decent player but isnt qualified to carry Vinnie's stickbag.
Segalryan - this is just silly. Lars is a fine, athletic drummer - but he is not in the same league, by far, in any respect, as Vinnie. If you ask Lars, he would agree. This is a whole 'nuther level. Metallica has never touched the rhythms and all their varieties that jazz and fusion guys do in a single set or a single tune.
Some say Vinnie is all about technique. Please, don't make yourself look like a fool. Joe's Garage, Shut Up Play Yer' Guitar, please make some homework, listen, analyze.
phil collins is a good drummer but should stick to what he does best...write love ballads for prom themes. Phil shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence with the likes of Vinnie, Steve Gadd and Dave Weckl
Marco is a great drummer, techniquewise he is just as good as vinnie, but Marco doesn't have the musical "feeling" that vinnie has. Vinnie can play in bands and adept, while Marco is more of a clinic-guy both great drummers though!!
hahah, Never mention Lars Ulrich in the same sentence as Vinny. Take it from someone who used to be a huge fan of Lars. When you learn a little more about music, you'll see how foolish that statement really is..hahah
segalryan once you get over your ignorance to drumming you will realize that this drummer is over what Lars does this drummer you are watching can play what Lars plays all day and play jazz and sound ridiculous at all those styles now that is skill dont believe me listen to the last megadeath album Vinnie did the whole album in one take basically in his sleep cuz its a joke to him. So dont knock what you dont understand
Vinnie is the most revolutionary drummer of our time! A true genuis. Often imitated, never equalled. Long Live The King!!!
The most all around, MULTI STYLISTIC, ass kicking, groove oriented, super skilled player of our generation. EVERYONE is in awe or simply uneducated and simple-minded.
Plus, he has provided us all with an incredible link in the historical chain. Taking what Tony Williams and Steve Gadd did, and carrying the torch beyond that. He has revolutionized the way we all play the drums.
For me it is Buddy Rich, Tony Williams and Vinnie Colaiuta as true earth shattering drummers, with Vinnie Colaiuta perhaps at the top!
nothing musical, except for the sick ghost notes on the snare...one of vinnie's signiature to this day.
Man, only Vinnie can out-machine a machine all the while putting an amazing feel to it. Whatever "it" might be.
every ones a critic,i like them all dont matter whos better than who its about the good grooves they put out there 4 everyone
phil collins is up there with the best of them it dont matter how many riffs hes got hes got his own unique stile drummers,bass players are the back bone and to watch them live is awsome grove on!
You said it. Yes, Vinnie is an incredible technician. But he's a musician. Period.
The best of the show drummers.
Dude i have listened to tons of Vinnie and Marco stuff and i own the Extreme Drumming dvd you mentioned and i can honestly say that Vinnie can play anything Marco does on that dvd with ease. Vinnie is one of if not the best sight readers of music in the world which means he can pretty much play anything. Listen to some of Vinnie's stuff with chick corea or do a search on here for Live at the Blue Note. Marco would most likely tell you himself that he can't touch Vinnie.
I know I should be more familar with Vinnie's playing and after seeing this I need to check him out more. It makes me think Tony Williams.
Dude trust me when i say that Vinnie has every bit of interdependence skills that marco has but he is not concerned really with the academic side of music so you rarely see it. That guy has played any and all types of drumming in his career at one point or another. Dont get me wrong Marco is great. I love the song "threesome" on his dvd, his independence in that is nuts but if you dont think Vinnie could do that... you haven't listened to enough of his drumming.
It's a little known fact that Vinnie's career in porn equaled his percussive accomplishments. The music in this clip was actually used in one of his earliest films--"Busy with the Beavers." His money shot rivaled Peter North's. And all of this derived from an absurd mustache...
nice! either it be vinnie, phil collins,stev gadd,buddy rich, steve ferone,they all got there different stiles and thats way kool. its good to here all these pro drummers make a song sound awesome keep grovin
Not only does Vinnie kick ass on the double-pedal but he played on a Megadeth record. Metal dudes should take notice.
Vinnie vs. a Sega Genesis!!
Only Vinnie can make this shit feel good.
at a certain point in his career Colaiuta may have been overtly concerned with technique but I'd argue that he has long since transcended that prepoccupation, anyway as far back as Joe's Garage there are examples of flawless groove playing
Pure cheesey genius but i think might go clinically insane if you listen to it for too long.
I'll tell you what is "eighties" is Vinnie's hairdo in this video...I would call it the "Progressive Jazzulet"...The cool jazz and progressive rock player's mullet.
one of zappas best drummers
We all know the basics. Daily practice even on just single stroke, arm/wrist/finger, french/german, open/close, moeller, etc. Then move on to double stroke, one handed roll, open roll, etc. An hour a day is not enough to get them right and get them fast, not to mention not becoming a technical giant that forgets about music. I am one to say I will never be as good as them, ie., Rich, Blakey, Weckl, Vinnie, JoJo, Morello, Smith, etc. sad reality for a man to deal with.
I think vinnie had his mustache because the admiration that vinnie has for zappa
at a time when weckl was trying to execute the coolest chops. vinnie said "where's the lose screw?". he found it while playing with holdsworth :-D
I have an old video of Vinnie posted, and its amazing how many guys will say he sucks, then go on and tell me Vinnie should listen to Mike Portnoy or Travis Barker...
I usually remove those posts, but occasionally I leave 1 up, so everyone can see how ignorant some people are!
Colaiuta is in my opinion, the greatest drummer ever. He's so far ahead of everyone else, and has been for 30 years now...
comparing musicians is kind of pointless anyway.Music is ART. Who is better?it s so subjective. IT s all about what the artist wants to do.Vinnie could practice the stuff marco does and he would have it down, propably in a short time,, and opposite,! Vinnie likes to play music, thats why he got so good at it and he is the #1 drummer for hire.
Yeah, he can play that genre, but he's much more versatile, which is why zappa used him, and more recently sting, add to that some heavy metal aswell.
Thankfully he got rid of the moustache!!
What year was this filmed?
I don't care what you say, this dude is a sick @#$%!&$ maniac!! Just think- this was "high-tech"! This is the first "old-school" Vinnie I've ever seen. '83-wow, I was 12 freakin' years old! Vinnie, go 'head you old goat, you! lol
I absolutely agree with you and i didn't mean to get all confrontational. I was just talking about Marco's skill opposed to Vinnie's but you're right all this is bullshit. In the end it's about the music.
How does Phil Collins get to be in the same group as Vinnie Colaiuta? Vinnie played for FZ, with like 14 different time sigs per songs as well as "polyrhythems" during his solos and such.
vinnies tweakin!!!
That's so 80's :p Very cool though!
what year is this!!!!!.......2079!!!!
I really prefer his aesthetic back then.
true,,! I have seen extreme drumming! he s great at what he does. I like vinnie more cause he is more about the music.he s the only drummer ever that has played with artists from Sting, to chick corea, to megadeth! No dvd, no books. he didnt even have a website only a year ago. It looks like he only wants to play music.
No no, I see the acoustic kit. But at 2:57 he moves over to an electronic kit. That's the instrument I'm trying to identify.
Does anyone here know the make & model of the electronic drums that he's playing here? I don't recognize them, and I'd love to know.
@pscottartist i completely agree with you
sure, that's true, but I disagree, you can compare, differences in technical proffiency are clear, so if that's what gets someone excited about certain drummers, comparison is normal. Obviously there is no such thing as "the best" but some guys just practice more and it shows in how they express themselves on the kit. Of course some are better at certain things than others, but no one can be masterful at everything to an equal degree.
Drum clinic Japan 1983
sweet mullet
up and coming tony royster jr
Listen to Brand-X "Product" then say Phil Collins sucks. He's up there with Vinnie, Gadd and Weckle. Brand-X w/ Collins is pure proof of that.
Bill Bruford? get real, the guy is nowhere next to Colaiuta. And youre forgetting that after Cobham came Gadd.
whaaat?!
I want proof, where's an article? =P
jesus christ please dont compare vinnie with guys like marco. vinnie is a genius. drummers like vinnie come once in 20-30 yrs.
i hear yah bro
That was fucking great.
cher bro
Haha, he's playing a "piano black" 6 piece Yamaha (RC9000?) kit. I wonder who he copied that from....
3:57
God damn...
Did anyone seriously watch this without laughing?
hahahahaha!
Phil Collins in a class with Vinnie and Bozzio etc?
That actually made me laugh a little and then I felt a little vomit creep up into my mouth. Phil Collins is a decent player but isnt qualified to carry Vinnie's stickbag.
Segalryan - this is just silly. Lars is a fine, athletic drummer - but he is not in the same league, by far, in any respect, as Vinnie. If you ask Lars, he would agree. This is a whole 'nuther level. Metallica has never touched the rhythms and all their varieties that jazz and fusion guys do in a single set or a single tune.
Some say Vinnie is all about technique. Please, don't make yourself look like a fool. Joe's Garage, Shut Up Play Yer' Guitar, please make some homework, listen, analyze.
Electronics = Yamaha
phil collins is a good drummer but should stick to what he does best...write love ballads for prom themes. Phil shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence with the likes of Vinnie, Steve Gadd and Dave Weckl
No fucking way! :P
Marco is a great drummer, techniquewise he is just as good as vinnie, but Marco doesn't have the musical "feeling" that vinnie has. Vinnie can play in bands and adept, while Marco is more of a clinic-guy
both great drummers though!!
hahah, Never mention Lars Ulrich in the same sentence as Vinny. Take it from someone who used to be a huge fan of Lars. When you learn a little more about music, you'll see how foolish that statement really is..hahah
love vinnie, but god the tune is horrible!!
Atleast Phil Collins is a better singer than Vinnie is :P
segalryan once you get over your ignorance to drumming you will realize that this drummer is over what Lars does this drummer you are watching can play what Lars plays all day and play jazz and sound ridiculous at all those styles now that is skill dont believe me listen to the last megadeath album Vinnie did the whole album in one take basically in his sleep cuz its a joke to him. So dont knock what you dont understand
Drum clinic Japan 1983