‘Almost no one checks’: Claims nearly ‘a third’ of people claiming to be Aboriginal aren't
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Sky News host Andrew Bolt says some activists allege as many as “a third” of people claiming to be Aboriginal aren't.
“And this has been going on for decades. But almost no one checks. Or dares to,” he said.
I just searched on Google, "Is it illegal to identify as Aboriginal?". ANSWER: "Your Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage is something that is personal to you. You do not need a letter of confirmation to identify as an Indigenous person." What are the odds that Australian Aboriginals are about to become the fastest-growing race on Earth.
we generally just tell people where we're from, our tribal name and our heritage. that is proof enough because they can go directly to the elders of that tribe and get confirmation, it's sad that they don't operate this way but it can be done. that is the best way considering we can't trace our ancestry due to christian colonisation and stolen generation.
@@natem1982 lol okay spear chucker
@@natem1982DNA can confirm family connection. That is why the Voice is important; to close the gap of ignorance & fraud.
More, so remote communities get proper support including appropriate education & justice within a system where they are judged by their peers.
Well its very difficult to prove Aboriginality if you are stolen generation or descended from stolen generation so anyone can claim to be anyone from any mob!
@@natem1982
@@aRecluse All of that can ALREADY be done, if those lazy people who already have the power to change things in the Govt got up off their backsides and actually did some work for a change, instead of misappropriating tax payers money, and lining their own pockets and stocking up on Gucci (Burney I'm talking to you) Millions in tax payers money goes to them each year, with NOTHING to show for it.....the "Voice" would do NOTHING, that can't already be done now without it.
I had discussions with Mr Bolt's lawyers during his court case about testifying for him as to whether 'identity' was a choice. I am of partial aboriginal descent, 1/32 to be precise, but do not like identity politics of any kind.
When I enrolled for a university course there was a box asking whether I was of aboriginal or Torres Strait islander descent. I inwardly groaned, but decided to give the factual, scientific answer, Yes.
I received a letter from the university telling me that as an indigenous student, I was entitled to the following benefits...
I threw the letter in the bin.
I usually do not see eye to eye with Mr Bolt on political matters, but attended an IPA function in order to meet him and also met Mr Johns who was promoting an earlier book which I bought and got signatures from them both.
PS I will be voting No in the referendum as I do not support any race being privileged in the constitution. Not all indigenous people are disadvantaged and not all disadvantaged people are indigenous. I do not 'identify' but some of my relatives, who are middle class, urban tertiary educated professionals do.
All 'gaps' in opportunity, health etc should be closed, regardless of race.
Very well said!
Sounds good
pshehan1 Good for you, I couldn't agree more👍
You probably have more Neanderthal genes than Aboriginal ones, about 3 to 4%!
@kaneyapoudal7980 I did not say any gap was being closed. I said gaps should be closed regardless of race. It does not take constitutional change to close them.
Why are you surprised? Do you have any experience with the system?
Mr Bolt's point is that nobody checks.
If asked I could have provided such proof.
I can prove my family tree.
I could identify as aboriginal if I wished.
And as my sister and father are the officers of a recognised aboriginal corporation, I don't think I would have much trouble getting 'the mob' to accept me as indigenous.
The biggest racket in the country....
How can I get in on it , it sounds like a good rort?!.
Yes. Sky News has always been like that for the raving far lunatic-Right. Just vote yes for a better future for all of us and leave the loony Right to their demented ravings. 😮😢😊😂
Im in Hervey By. Everyone up here has agreed to sign up as ABORIGONAL if the YES vote goes through. In fact many people who need access to MYAGEDCARE are doing it too. There is so much money for the Aboriginals its disgusting when gov services for elderly and disabled are grossly lacking.
$34 BILLION Per Year is set aside fro Aboriginal needs. Double what is set aside for NON Aboriginal needs.
We’re all aboriginal if it’s a yes vote 😂
As an Aboriginal genealogist, its a bloody nightmare and a disgrace...difference between having an Aborigonal ancestor, which dosent make you an Aboriginal person, to Being Aboriginal which is a lived experience. Im tired of people coming saying their 4x grandparent was Aboriginal to then state they are Aboriginal!!!! DNA testing for Aboriginality coupled with lifestory work to back it up is what should be happening.
boring
Yes, absolutely correct. Those people who claim to be indigenous when they aren't are taking benefits for the true indigenous. And this is theft, this roarting needs to be stopped and the money repaid.
@@brendonhenry8835 You mean that will reveal Lydia is Irish?
If a white person is adopted as a baby or a young child or at any stage of life by an Aboriginal family and lives with aboriginal people and speaks aboriginal and partakes in aboriginal and accepted by aboriginal..are they aboriginal?
NO nutcase@@sdjuxu
If men can “identify” as female, then it’s on for young and old, and you can identify as whatever you like…
@@DSA-queerfaction 👈Yes23 Troll
Even as a cat! maybe an Aboriginal cat??!
@@DSA-queerfaction WHAT ARE THE 3 PARTS TO THIS TEST ? ? VOTE LABOR. HAVE 666 BOOSTERS. TELL LOTS OF LIES ?
But only aboriginals get so many government handouts. From Abstudy, to extra and free housing, free medical and dental. Free diabetic treatment. Fake it till you make it for so so many
@DSA-queerfaction yes, only women cannot object to others identifying as part of their group. Oh well.
Why the hell would anyone claim to be one ? Oh wait must be the perks they get !
Having spent my life as a public servant working with welfare recipients, I can confidently attest to human nature being willing to lie when there are benefits to be gained for doing so. Especially when no one looks into your claims.
This is gold! And yes, it's been going on for years. I met a guy a while back when I was doing casual work, he claimed he was native, he wasn't, he was Nepalese! and he and his kids got everything! And he said, "Always tick 'yes' to if you're Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander, you'll get it all!". I once accidentally ticked yes on a job form, wow, not only did I get the job, but the pay was increased. I was fired when I told them that I wasn't native and that it was an accident. How rude!
Yea I know quite a few Sri Lankans that have claimed Aboriginality and are believed. Reaping heaps of benefits. I live in the Northern Territory This fakery has been going on for decades. The traditional people know, the two drops know it and certainly the whitefella living up North know it. One good thing that has happened from this so called referendum debacle is the truth is being exposed. For years the people up north have known this, but were being mocked and deemed racist if this fakery was talked about. It is time to nsist on DNA testing. See how many of them backbreaking very quickly.
There was a family in Woolgoolga IN NSW who claimed To be aboringal for years.They claimed all the benefits ,Till the Local aboringals called them out.Then it was revealed they were Immagrants from From Sir Lanka or Pakistan ,Who migrated here in the 60ties & got away with this Aboringal claim for 30 + years.I am sure this fact has been well hidden bu GOVTS
If approximately 300k are falsly claiming to be aboriginal then identify them, arrest them for feaud & recover the taxpayers money. Over to you Albanese & Burney. Do they have the courage? No is the answer & just another reason to vote NO to the Voice.
Big con wake up
can't get blood out of a stone mate last form i filled out when it came to the part are you a aboriginal or a tourist strait islander i say yes to it even though i am not but hey if everyone else can play the system why not join in to me i say lol.
Yes it’s fraud. Should be punishable by prison time. What about also all the welfare fraud that goes on. The govt doesn’t give a dam about it. It’s not their money!!
@@fitcheswarren just identify as one then call them bigots transphobes and all the other ones it shuts them straight up
How many of that 300k are ALP/Green? No chance of a crackdown with Albo at the wheel.-
I'm ticking the box on forms now. Maybe all 26 million of us should.
i do it every time i fill form out now lol if others are out there doing it why not join them lol can't beat the join them i always say lol.
Hell yes! I want a much better paying job with no actual effort and a free house and car. Once we’re all indigenous and rorting the system then things might be decided on merit
If I did I could never live with myself identifying to these lowlifes
If we all did the nonsense would soon end
Only if the YES vote wins 😂
If I can identify as a woman I can certainly identify as Aboriginal.
You can even identify as an Aboriginal woman.
Remove all aboriginal benefits and tick boxes. That will fix the fraud problem.
Agreed. That will also save the Australian taxpayers nearly 40 billion AUD per year going to Abørıgınal Affaırs. That's $1,000,000 multiplied 40,000 times.
There are taxpayers with families to feed, rent to pay or dealing with crıminal interest rate rises that are living paycheck to paycheck.
Remove the occupation if the british and the arborigens will have back THEIR land
@@pietro4772 Those hated, vilified aboriginals pay tax, too.
I would vote Yes in a referendum for that.
It would solve it very quickly
This is nothing compared to the reality of what is going on. I live in a remote indigenous community. Have done for over 20 years. Im a white fella, so as I work with and socialise with mostly black fellas, I have been asking them what’s the go with the “yes” referendum. So far not one person has a clue what any of it means. Not labourers, tradesman, elders or TOs (traditional owners who make the decisions). If the yes vote is so important, why dont the people it’s designed to help, have any clue about what it is.
Because it's a scam.. it'll give the government more control..
'Cause it's not about them...
Exactly right it’s because the ones that are pushing for the yes vote are the ones that are the fake blacks or rather corporate blacks as I refer to them and as Aunty Cindy said - they are sellouts, they do not care about this land or any of the peoples of this land, black, white or otherwise they only care about their own interests!!!
Try to understand that 90 percent of the indigenous people in Australia are in favour of the voice. Enjoy a fantastic Referendum Defeat Night for the "NO" case. 😮😢😊😅
It’s not designed to help those who need it …
It’s the Aboriginal elites …
Especially those in Canberra who will benefit…
34 billion dollars a year ain’t enough for them !!!
Simply having a system in place that pays people for being different is wrong. There should be one payment for jobseekers, one payment for studying, one payment for pension, regardless of your heritage. These should be Australian payments for Australian people, black, white or indifferent.
We all live in this country together and it's time for the Aboriginal peoples to forgive and move on. Their insistence of having something "separate but equal" is the problem. Separate is not equal, just ask Rosa Parks.
How is it possible for any Government to allow people to identify as First Nations people if they are not being tested. I am voting NO to the voice to Parliament referendum to change our Constitution, because as far as I'm concerned, we are all equal Australian citizens, regardless of race or colour.
And these frauds claiming Protected Species abo should be appropriately dealt with and restitution.
Astounding all these greedy demanding grubs get special concessions for doing SFA and it won't change under grubby ALBOZO.
We are not equal. First nation ppl come first then everyone else second.
@@Always-HustleAgreed. How much money has been thrown at "closing the gap"? Billions! Yet nothing changes.
@@Mangsaab1954 agree. Not being rude but most First Nation ppl don't want to work. Happy to claim from the state. We've all seen what's happening in Alice Springs and Darwin. Won't be long till that behaviour hits the larger cities.
Can we get rid of the minister for waman then.
Or are you c. Ucks ok with discrimination as long as you think k it's ok.
The way this is heading, l will identify myself as part of the stolen money generation. Thanks Andrew and Sky news.
😂😂 nice
Great comment😂
you'd think Aboriginals would be sick of this. and until they demand proof of identity....they wont be taken seriously
i call the half cast aboriginal people and quarter cast ones coconuts black on the out side white on the inside lol thats lydia thorps of the world shes a coconut black on the out side white on the inside lol
My Aboriginal friend is very sick of it. 🇦🇺
Tell me something I didn’t know already what a joke
Burnum Burnum was fairly dark skinned... should he have been tested?
We are sick of it!
I might "identify" as aboriginal to reap the benefits I paid for with my taxes over working nearly 60 years. Then I can claim land rights to the block I paid for and live on - maybe.
If everyone is treated equal and got the same benefits and opportunities there would be no need for anyone to falsely claim they are Aboriginal
Exactly, its not complicated. Enough time has passed to begin to even out the playing field, once and for all.
@@terryjkhn5725 Yo are ignoring transport costs and no Security guard was earning $3,000 a week in the 1990's. Local Clinic services were free to Aboriginals and anything else involved airtransport.
Exactly
Discrimination promoted and celebrated by labor and state media
@@terryjkhn5725bollocks. Security guards do not get 3k a week anywhere.
To right I severed my hand in an accident I get no help do not qualify because my wife works, yet if I we’re aboriginal would be totally different I actually got told I should just tick box to say iam aboriginal and Torres straight I can’t , I just wouldn’t do that. I worked the last 30 years never been on benefits and I get zero help, yet all this government is worried about is the less then 4% of the nation made up of aboriginals. My story is not any worse then many other people struggling in this country but there is a growing number of people that have had enough of race card.
There are too many stan grants on the list. If they are only ten percent Aboriginal then they should be considered European
i call the half cast aboriginal people and quarter cast ones coconuts black on the out side white on the inside lol thats lydia thorps of the world shes a coconut black on the out side white on the inside lol
What these people who look mostly white with European features and a light tan are all doing - is denouncing their white heritage.
They are turning their back on their white parentage in order to fleece the system; Surely this is racist.
The last government who classified people by _percentage of white blood_ was the Boer-led South African regime. It was a fascist organisation.
Nominating and classifying percentages can't work.I doubt DNA will show it like that.
Spot on.
Oi Stan has gone full black face on the ABC check around his shirt collar 😂
The yes campaign are really scared of this issue, hence the hysteria. Those claiming other benefits show proof - giving benefits to the wrong people harms the intended recipients. This is reason enough not to go down this path.
Wow! That’s amazing! Talk about ‘pull the wool’! We have the same here in New Zealand. Same, but different!
All Aussies should make the same claim to level the pitch. Job done.
If the YES vote becomes a thing then I'm discovering my Aboriginality real fast. The fact I was born in London is irrelevant.
They'll be a lot do the same, especially if you don't have to prove it.
😂😂😂
Me too! 😂
LOL!!
From the Winnie Ninnie tribe
At my Doctors, Indigenous folk get free consultations and medications. Gee, I wonder why people are claiming Indigenous status?
Pensioners get free consults too. Are they faking being aged?
crosseydone7960....Pity they were not made to work the same as the rest of us.
@@indiathylane2158..... Pensioners are old.. Aborigines get it for free WHATEVER THEIR AGE. That's the difference, just like everything else they get for free that WE have to pay for!
Sorry crosseydone7960, that last comment from me was meant for indiathylane3158 I made a mistake. My apologies.
@@Cat-and-mouseyjdm Yep, good point.
Not suprised. They just claim to be when it suits them.
can't get blood out of a stone mate last form i filled out when it came to the part are you a aboriginal or a tourist strait islander i say yes to it even though i am not but hey if everyone else can play the system why not join in to me i say lol.
Same with Jews, they're white until it's not convenient or vice versa.
@@fitcheswarren Not a good look
So many White Aboriginals.... I'm White, so I MUST be Aboriginal as well.
They thought if Michael Jackson can pretend to be white they us whiteys can pretend to be black 🤣 sadly it's working
Yes even looks like the first guy was albino aboriginal 🙄
Me to
@@kelsummers806 Not sure what you are saying. I have worked up in the Pilbara where some of the pure-bred Aboriginals have blond hair and blue eyes. When I saw one of these purebreds for the first time, I had heard of them before, but it is quite fascinating seeing one up close. There is definitely no white fella in them... it is something in their DNA.
The colour of Stan Grant's face changes according to the topic being discussed on his shows.
I've seen him go from a nugget no.2 light tan boot polish to a full on nugget no. 10 ultra dark tan.
Of course, he only applies the dark tan colour when he's discussing racism and aborigines.
He switches to light tan when talking about gender and gay topics.
Wouldn't checking someone's claims of being aboriginal before giving them benefits be protecting aboriginals??
No, because it would be discriminating against trans-Aboriginals who are also Aborigines /s
A late friend of mine who used to work for a commonwealth department told me 30 years ago that there was an epidemic of people doubling up for certain benefits by using tribal names and their European names and vice versa. In other words, there were tens of thousands of people taking advantage. Of course back then, computers and records were not as easy to check as they are now.
As a protest. Why don't we all identify as aboriginal?
Excellent idea. I am seriously thinking about it.
Great idea👍, but I just identified as a 🐓 on my passport 🤦♂️
@@bdawg3942 That's ok. Your aboriginal identity is fluid.
Love it😂😂😂
because we dont want to degrade ourselves.
There are an estimated 800,000 Australian citizens who claim Aboriginal heritage, and it's estimated that around 1/3 have no Aboriginal heritage at all. In Australia there are the following, taxpayer funded, organisations "assisting" Aboriginal people:
3,278 Aboriginal Corporations.
243 Native Title Councils.
35 Regional Councils.
122+ Aboriginal Agencies.
3 Advisory Bodies.
145 Aboriginal Health Organisations.
11 Aboriginal Members of Federal Parliament.
And $34 BILLLION Per Year allocated specifically to Aboriginal needs.
No wonder so many decide to be "Aboriginal". It seems that NON Aboriginals in Australia are the ones that "NEED A VOICE".
So true.
They are well over represented, but the grifters gobble up all the funds before it gets to to the actual needy.
Prior to self determination there were approximately 220,000 aboriginal peoples on the census roll.
Estimated by whom? The bigots and haters on Sky?
@@indiathylane2158 Nope search the Australian census data, it's free to access.
Everyone born here is indigenous!!!
FACT.
🙄
That is so funny. This isn't new. Years ago people used to joke that they classed themselves as indigenous to get free dental and free sports participation. Our neighbors were Asian and checked that they were Aboriginal or Torres Straight origin to get everything free. Given the freebies they get that non-indigenous don't get then it's easy to see why we have so many "indigenous".
Oh yes! That’s true, My brother-in-law’ ,mother full Aboriginal ,father English, left the Aboriginal land council, that’s was back in , 1990s. And why would he leave? because the majority of people were Indian - he couldn’t cope with it...There’s not that many ‘real ‘ Aboriginal s.
If you make a policy about race then it can hardly be racist to check the race of the recipient to make sure they fulfil the race criteria that the policy specifies.
Especially when they are the ones asking for the policy.
@@DSA-queerfaction Fine lets remove the race laws from the constitution completely, that is what they are called.
@@DSA-queerfaction 👈Yes23 Troll
@@DSA-queerfaction Of course it's about race....that's why they want it ya ninny.
@@DSA-queerfaction APARENTLY YOUR "VOICE TRUTH TREATY'' ISN'T ABOUT A TREATY EITHER ... OR TRUTH, OBVIOUSLY 😂😂
"nearly ‘a third’ of people claiming to be Aboriginal aren't." You think that's bad? Here in the US, 100% of Women's Sports Champions and 50% of people using Women's locker Rooms claim to be Women but aren't!!!!
*** "nearly ‘a third’ of people claiming to be Aboriginal aren't." You think that's bad? Here in the US, 100% of Women's Sports Champions and 50% of people using Women's locker Rooms claim to be Women but aren't!!!! ***
Wow! Those people must have BALLS to pull those stunts off!!!
@@StevenSiew2 😂
Your nation is able to easily fix that problem, vote for Trump even if you don't like him and/or the Republicans. I would vote for the Devil if he would stop perverts seeing my daughter naked and stop her having naked men in her changing rooms. On second thoughts send him over to Australia we really need help.
Thank you,Andrew & Gary Johns. This must become front & centre of the current 'Voice' debate even though it will be ignored by the ABC & the cowardly msm. I will vote NO.
timbrandis1151....Who cares what they think. Totally irrelevant now and they wont influence the Voice vote, ( but it might have helped the "NO"though).
Yeah , NO is the way.
Keep on raving all the way until October when you'll get your donkey of week award. 😮😢😊
@@TyronepeaderLol. Hurts doesnt it love
@@ERIN_198 YES, losing the last five State Elections and the last Federal election ought to hurt a little but we are dealing with raving Skynuts here without much wit or feeling, so try to show a little forbearance. 🤔🤫🙄😒😏🤗
I did it once just out of curiosity when I was enquiring for an online course that I was half interested in. Then i got a phone call shortly after, offering discounts, half day classes online components
I've started saying I'm aboriginal on form's, I haven't got any benefits from it yet but the way things are going it shouldn't be to much longer 😊🎉
And the next question is what per centre aboriginal qualifies. I'm 6th generation (1792) aboriginal but I down't claim. Unless they are living a traditional aboriginal life I don't believe a half aboriginal should be able to claim (yeah, I'm talking about you Marcia, Stan, Linda and how many others?).
Exactly.
The most marvellous bit of information I’ve read. Yes why do the city dwellers get it all. I thought the Australian tax payers money went bush to help the true disadvantaged. I’m not surprised to find out it’s the privileged partial Aboriginals getting all the perks. They are racist to their own , how despicable.
The chances of british colonisers interbreeding with natives are slim to none in 1792, mind u, if youd been there long enough n had grown tired of f#cking kangaroos maybe youd do anything imo.
The truth is the majority of indigenous Australians live in suburbia, living modern Western lives just like the rest of us. They have jobs, they have a modern education, speak the some language as the rest of us, don't believe in shamanic traditions, and they benefit from all the modern comforts and technological wonders as the rest of us. And if we are being honest, they also share a larger portion of European ancestry than not.
So how does giving that lot a voice help the small minority who are living either traditional lives with different values or those living troubled lives in remote communities and towns? Are we really so racist as to say that if you have some smidge of other ancestry in you, you aren't one of us, you are some "other" and should be treated differently? Should an educated, middle class guy or girl who you wouldn't know was indigenous unless they told really be allowed to speak on behalf of another culture they barely know?
Very well said!
Bullshit majority of indigenous dont live and assimilate in European cities
I know of someone who lived in WA who travelled interstate for a few months building work. The bloke had unexpected car trouble on the way over, so he was short on cash until his job started. He went to a local welfare agency to ask for a food voucher to tie him over. The welfare agency gave him a whole bunch of stuff and gave him the names of other places where he could get additional help. He couldn't believe how generous and helpful they were. He managed without additional help but a few weeks later he mentioned what had happened to his temporary boss. That was when he found out that a mob of aborigines in that town had the same surname as his. He wasn't related to these aborigines (as far as he knows) but just having the same surname was enough to get him benefits he'd never get back in his home state.
A great yarn from a raving Skynut. Have a fantastic celebration in October of Referendum Defeat Night for the "NO" case.
I'm registering as Aboriginal, I was born here, my mum spent a lot of time in the sun ,lived in country NSW ,of course I'm aboriginal, I can feel it.
First Nations people…..
What does that even mean? If the only people who have ‘rights’ are the first people to set foot on a virgin continent and no one who comes after is allowed that would pretty much negate every country in the world.
If the Aboriginals are doing it so tough, why do so many want to be recognized as Aboriginals. Is it because they get extra benefits over other Australians. You bet they do, and still complain.
You have got to get up on your roof and shout that loudly. Almost no one ever sees it on Sky. The Murdoch media are going right down the tubes these days. 😮😢🤗
People claiming Aboriginaliity should be prepared to undergo DNA testing. Be at least 51% positive.
And if these arrogant grubs refuse deny them every possible welfare payment perpetually until they consent.
@@DSA-queerfaction 99% is better.
Watch the population drop radically
what makes it even worse, is the fact that even the real Aboriginal people hate those who falsely claim that they are Aboriginal.
@@DSA-queerfaction 👈Yes23 Troll
You could say the same about the English, as they are a bit of a mongrel mix over the centuries
EVERYONE should claim to be indigenous.
All humans evolved in Africa. All humans are related. We are all indigenous to Africa. There are NO Indigenous Australians. The first tribe of humans that wandered onto this continent, came from somewhere else. Anthropology 101.
Before any settler came to any of our countries, the ppl there were fighting eachother for land.. funny that they can do it to eachother, but anyone else, owes them a life time of financial compensation..
You want to close the gap? Stop all the differences between what the 2 groups are allowed…
I agree with him. If we are to be separated by race then the race which will get more benefits than others should be tested
We are all indigenous to the land we are born on. If you are born here you are an indigenous Australian! That's according to the two dictionaries I have in front of me. Look further down below (posted down further here) for the Concise Oxford dictionary definition and the Collins Dictionary for the definition of indigenous. If you are born in France.... you are indigenous to France, (according to the dictionary by its very definition!) If you are born in Germany..... you are indigenous to Germany as that is where you originated from. Don't argue with the dictionary if you don't understand the term.
Wrong!
You better educate yourself on the word Indigenous
@@morales1961 MLOL .. WHICH DEFINITION, IN WHICH DICTIONARY, SHOULD WE BE ''EDUCATING'' OURSELVES WITH ? GET LOST SHILL. 😂
Extremely wrong,but DNA tests are needed so one exploits
mob like 'original' australians if i move china keep having children with eurocentric peeps do i start calling myself chinese
I knew someone many years ago who did just that, she found out that many descendants ago there was an aboriginal in her family. The family was Snow White, the blondest of hair & only one drop of blood that was aboriginal. This mother claimed for her kids schooling & whatever she could get her hands on, did this for years & years. Disgusting. 👿👿
It's not just ppl claiming indigenous ancestry who rort the system, it's almost everyone who can. Office workers rorting leave and TiL benefits, burger barn staff pocketing vouchers, cops putting a few bottles of top shelf whisky into their car when they arrive at a liquor store ram raid, Target employees giving their rellies an illegal discount, public servants taking home copy paper or cans of coffee.....
They're not rorting the system cos they're black. They rort the system because they can. Please don't tell me you haven't benefited from a rort, or rorted yourself, at some time in your life. I have.
@@indiathylane2158 I can so with 100% honesty I have NEVER rorted anyone.
@@user-cy1mx4xr2d Never had discounted tickets handed to you? Taken a discount at Kmart that should only go to staff?
Not declare something to the tax department?
Weren't 2 hours late for work once, but discovered your employer forgot to dock your pay?
Try to return something out of warranty? Or an object you know you dropped?
You must be a saint?
@@indiathylane2158 nope not a saint just never needed to cheat anyone.
@@indiathylane2158 You replied to another comment "How many people do you know who 'suddenly claimed to be aboriginal'? I've never met any" and can't fathom such a thing could possibly happen, despite the number of people "identifying" as Aboriginal growing exponentially.
Now in this thread, you say "It's not just ppl claiming indigenous ancestry who rort the system, it's almost everyone who can".
So you now move the goalposts and acknowledge there are people rorting the system by claiming Aboriginal heritage, but with the qualifier that almost everyone is a rorter.
The implication being that you drag everyone down to the Aboriginal rorters level, so people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
What a con!
The laws and systems to prevent this are in place and have been for a long time. The problem is that most are unwilling to raise the subject for fear of backlash and being accused of being "racist".
The very notion that someone is given preference for anything based simply on their race, is the epitome of racism. Imagine placing a job vacancy with the criteria in part saying " Must be of European descent". You would be tarred and feathered. I will be voting NO. We are either all Australians or we aren't. Everyone should be treated equally but that goes both ways.
Anyone lying about being aboriginal who went to college for free should be made to pay back the cost of that education.
IN LEGALESE ,, ''FIRST'' (NATIONS) MEANS 'PRIMARY' OR 'MAIN' . NON ABORIGINALS LITERALLY BE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. VOTE NO. NO VOICE. NO REPUBLIC.
Is Kenny a closet Labor communist because he certainly sounds like one . Vote NO and vote early and often .
Vote yes to “identifying” as indigenous and claiming all the discounts, quotas and free stuff. That’ll make Albo vote No
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Yep, said this since all the gender stuff started.
If you can "identify" as whatever you like, why not Aboriginal. I mean the word "identify" is even in the question.
Well, the semester can cross-identify, why not any group.
@@74KU exactly, if it’s good for the goose and all that
I had a boss that used to tell everyone that he was 1/4 aboriginal, one day he got a family history genetics test and found out his grandparent he thought was aboriginal was Portuguese. Still told everyone. I guess that was easier for him than admitting the truth to everyone.
My hairdresser years ago was married to an Aboriginal. She told me that you never have to prove you are Aboriginal, the GOVT has to prove your not! They never do!
Excellent presentation. Chris Kenny talks absolute rubbish. Why aren't there more checks on people suddenly claiming to be aboriginal? Why aren't the rorters confronted and charged with fraud?
How many people do you know who 'suddenly claimed to be aboriginal'? I've never met any.
@@indiathylane2158 You never met any false claimants, so they don't exist. You probably never met any murderers or pedo's, so applying your logic they don't exist either.
Aboriginals first counted in 1971 Census - 115,952, now 984,000. 1991-1996 - 33% increase. 1996 -2001 16% (438,500). 2016 to 2021 census -25% increase.
849% times in 50 years, or just under 17% per year on average. 2.5% for whole population, including immigration.
Obviously these enormous increases are not due to birth rate.
This is devastating. It sounds like the WEF is making progress in Australia as well as the U.S.
When bikies are identifying as aboriginal, and the number of births to aboriginal parents
don't match the growing number identifying as aboriginal, you know something is sus.
Are bikees aboriginal I
didn't know that thought
They had some funny sounding names
They ride kangaroos.@@alhippo2026
So what's the figure for aboriginal births? And the one for those identifying?
I agree entirely that people claiming benefits for any reason should be checked. Obtaining a benefit by misinterpretation is a crime I’m surprised that charges haven’t been laid against these fake emus.
There are people misrepresenting their sex and even having their M or F marker changed in legal documents to reflect their fantasies.
In these days of the imaginary instead of reality anyone can claim to be anything and no one dares to question it.
The ones causing a fuss are the fake ones
Why do people want to be indigenous - the special rights?
free hand outs
click the yes box on any form and you get money thrown at you so yeah I'm a albino Abo
benefits
Special arrangements regardimg health care, free University , and able to get funded education for 10 years longer than NON Aboriginal people, added assistance for travel to job interviews, The Australian budget allocates $34 BILLION Per Year to Aboriginal assistance programs which is effectively double what is allocated to NON Aboriginals on a per capita basis. It's estimated that around 300,000 Australians claiming Aboriginal heritage are NOT Aboriginal.
In NZ if you’re ‘indigenous’ you get priority in the healthcare system. It’s mad.
I was in Demography in the ABS for years. The problem statisticians have with collecting aboriginal statistics is that they can't get any hard proof. All we could do is use what is declared on the form or in the case of the Censuses, sometimes verbally to a collector. But where there are a large range of benefits of a financial kind and now for university entry (insane) in saying you are aboriginal, many less scrupulous people are going to rort it. And they are, all the time. There should be no such benefits based on race. It should be objective based on personal circumstances. That might well put an end to it all.
2 words. stolen generation.
@@natem1982 2 more words, stealin' generation'.
ANOTHER ONE OF ALBO’S FAKE MATES????
By
Paul Zanetti-
Thomas Mayor (aka Thomas Mayo)
Is he another fake aboriginal in the mould of Bruce Pascoe?
For starters Mayo has changed his surname from ‘Mayor’ to ‘Mayo’ perhaps to sound more ‘aboriginal’. (Mayo…Mabo….).
On his personal website he claims to be a Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander man.
However, his heritage shows zero aboriginality.
The Independent Education website describes Mayor differently and more accurately:
“His father, Celestino Mayor, is….ofPhilippine and Dayak (Borneo) ancestry and his mother, Liz Mayor, brings Polish, Jewish and English ancestry to the family.”
Nothing about aboriginal heritage. And Mayo…er…Mayor would certainly bang on about it if it were so, wouldn’t he?
Is he another opportunistic racial appropriator using genuine aborigines to push his Communist agenda?.
Mayo…or Mayor…..er…whatever….is, according to The Australian:
“…a militant unionist and outspoken figure on the government’s First Nations referendum working group (amd) has raised the prospect of a voice to parliament being the first step towards “reparations and compensation” for Indigenous Australians.
Videos unearthed by No campaign strategists feature Mr Mayo appearing in online forums run by the Search Foundation - established in 1990 as a “successor -organisation of the Communist Party of Australia” to preserve the socialist movement.
Mayo, one of the strongest backers of a voice body, in 2021 told the Search Foundation that the power of the voice was its ability to “punish politicians that ignore our advice” on legislation and funding.
At an Invasion Day rally the same year, the author and former wharfie said “we need the constitutional right to have a united voice … we need the power of the Constitution behind us so we can organise like we’ve never organised before”.
“We are sick of governments telling us no, we are sick of governments not listening to our voice. We are going to use the rule book of the nation to force them,” he said.
In another video, Mr Mayo said the voice was a “vital step” in delivering outcomes detailed in the Uluru Statement from the Heart.
“‘Pay the Rent’ for example, how do we do that in a way that is transparent and that actually sees reparations and compensation to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people beyond what we say and do at a rally?” he said.”
Former Queensland Senator, Amanda Stoker says Mayo, was recorded saying he expected the Voice to “get its hands” on superannuation policy while talking to independent MP Zoe Daniel.
“The bloke who designed the Voice … wants a practical veto on super policy because remember, Mr Albanese said it would be ‘a brave government’ that didn’t do as the Voice says,” Ms Stoker said.
“That’s not democracy. So, it’s time for the government to come clean. How much power will the Voice have over your retirement savings?
Another Communist masquerading as an aboriginal to get their hands on our Constitution, your Superannuation and your land?
Worked for StatsNZ. Not sure if Aboriginal groups are the same but after talking with Maori leaders they themselves have almost zero information on who are part of their Iwi (tribe) so they will take anyone claiming to be one of them at face value - makes it just that much easier to game the trust based system. Stats agencies rely on people to provide their data in good faith so perverse incentives like race based benefits are really just going to end up doing more harm to our indigenous groups than they realise as once their population group gets distorted by non-indigenous claiming to be one any research/planning/funding done will become less accurate and targeted/effective...
Yes. I am drowning in debt age 56...nothing for me. Unfortunately.
well done Bolt.
Blood tests should be compulsory for anyone claiming to be aboriginal.
I was talking to an Aboriginal person about this issue a while ago, and he described these people who claim to be Aboriginal in the most eloquent manner as "f-ing annoying" I was almost on the ground laughing.
Yes, one blackfella's opinion accurately reflects all blackfella's feelings.
@@indiathylane2158
The only ' black' ones are the True bushmen, most are brown............... - or white..................
White people with a aboriginal great grandmother are pathetic
@kaneyapoudal7980
Quite simple - I have met and talked to them....
@@bluddyrowdy8757 You haven't seen full aboriginal folk with only moderately brown skin? What about blond hair?
What about Caucasian people with a naturally brown complexion? It doesn't mean they have "a touch of the tar brush", it's just that their skin is naturally dark.
Those 'black' bushmen's ancestors would have met and mixed with whites at some point. Skin colour is a poor indicator of ancestry.
When hiring an aboriginal for an aboriginal only job all they ask you is "Are you aboriginal?" and if the answer is yes you are in. The BS has to stop so that genuinely in need people get the help.
in need people no matter the colour of their skin , no matter their ancestry?
It won't stop...it will only get worse. Fancy a man from Yugoslavia pretending to be Aboriginal!! Oh and the one from Sri Lanka!!
@@tilapiadave3234 If you've lived among these people and seen the battle they have (most of it their own fault) then you realise that unless there is some intervention the problem will never be fixed. Some white families are the same and should come under the same scrutiny.
@@tilapiadave3234 YES
@@JohnWilliams-iw6oq Totally agree, then they call us racist for us all being equal: they are used to better. THEY WANT MORE
I am thinking of identifying as indigenous, not because I would use it to gain anything, but on principle because I AM nudge ous - I was born here! It is my country! 🇦🇺
Do you want to sink that low?
When do you become indigenous? When you are born here? When your parents are born here? When your grandparents are born here? When your great grand parents are born here? Or is it 10, 100 or 1000 generations you need? Does it just need to be one form each or]f these generations back, or all, or a majority?
Good for Mr. John's he is only saying what most Australians are. You can't go around saying you are part of a certain race and not have to prove it. IT seems to me these people are jumping on the band wagon because they think there is lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ it for them. Just my opinion.
Its good to see this point being raised around the validity of those people who are white as yet claim to be of aboriginal descent. I've often felt that the people I've met who have claimed themselves to hold aboriginal blood in their genetics were just jumping on the bandwagon so they could claim the benefits that comes with declaring themselves as aboriginal were false, but how does one prove it when confronted with the lie. Its about time this issue be raised I could have claimed myself to be indigenous but have never done so despite being mistaken as being aboriginal. I am in fact an indigenous person of NZ descent and its all about respecting the Indigenous of each country rather than making false claims.
Withdraw Government funding from all Universities. Make them qualify for funding via an independent & accountable panel. Otherwise we will continue with woke nonsense & lies being taught as fact.
@@facta-non-verba And your Ideas are.......??????
Thank goodness for Sky News. This excerpt should be put on A Current Affair.
OMG and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
This must be infuriating for actual Aboriginal people, they should be very angry with these imposters.
Well I'm a No!! This BS has been going on forever..
100%.. now we're expected to pay more as time goes on.. next will be an extra tax to own a house here cos "this land isn't ours".. every single first nation fought amoung eachother for land.. but were being charged for living here, well past when fighting eachother for land was a normal thing..
Around 1986 I met an Indian woman who had just arrived in Sydney, she told me that when she went to the early version of Centerlink she ticked all the Aboriginal boxes and was getting a small fortune from the government, I say test them, a quick non intrusive DNA test will sort it out, no tests means no more money.
No it means criminal fraud prosecutions, seizure of assets and deportation back to the third world.
Do you mean Dept. of Social Security or the CES? If Dept. SS, they weren't making provisions for aboriginals until the early 90's.
It was in Bondi Junction in 1986, that was just before Sitiveni Rabuka launched his first coup, that's probably where she came from although for that to happen she must have moved early in the piece.
@@zzzak666 No provision on the SS forms then for aboriginality.
@@indiathylane2158
There certainly was. From 1977 the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs created the Community Development Employment Programme. This required applicants to identity if they were aboriginal.
So many with ginger hair blue eyes and a white backside.
Too many
You check their backsides? Weird!
@@PJRayment don't take it so literally.
If the person being tested is Aboriginal what do they have to fear, they are the ones applying for special treatment its just part of the application
the indigenous flag on the Harbour bridge should be joined by the flags of every country whose citizens emigrated to Australia.
I know a Dutch family, complete with accents, who claimed Aboriginal benefits, and got them!!!
Sure.
It has become common in the Western World, a very sad behavioural trait and one of the many poor outcomes of identity politics. In the US a Senator named Elizabeth Warren claimed she was of North American Indian ancestry and used that on various forms to gain employment advantage and academic leverage. In the end, and following a DNA test, she had to apologise to the Cherokee Nation. Mostly these behaviours are deliberate and used to gain either financial benefit or access to specific career opportunities. In both cases its fraudulent misrepresentation and if a benefit has been gained they should be charged with fraud.
Yes, I'm familiar with Warren.....she's a fruitcake as well...Lol
Nowhere in your post is your claim she wasn't of native American ancestry. Are you saying she wasn't?
@@indiathylane2158 She wasn't thats why she had to apologise. A total fraud.
@@VK6AB- But she was, she had a DNA test to prove it and some family history recorded. Please don't tell me you believed Donald Chump's claims?
Her apology was over the manner in which she made her claim. It was _not_ because she didn't have native American ancestry.
The news report at the time states she was 1/1064th native American, which is pretty close to nothing.
I can't possibly think why anyone would want to claim to be Aboriginal in a system that's supposed to treat everyone as equal(!) Except, of course, when it doesn't. So-called, 'positive discrimination', that claims to rebalance supposed inequalities whilst actually placing a thumb down on one side of the scales in the name of political correctness. Small wonder then that there's an increasing number of people claiming to be on the side the scales are weighted down in favour of. Exposing what's supposed to be a fairer system for what it really is. Replacing one form of discrimination with another.
What entitles somebody to $$$ in the first place because they are a specific race?
Back in the 90’s I was in a Centrelink office in Townsville looking to see what jobs may be available. An aboriginal gentleman obviously under the weather came in and demanded money. In those days that actually had a counter which he went straight too. The staff after a short conversation amongst themselves, gave him fifty dollars out of what seemed a petty cash tin they keep for these occasions.
If I had done the same thing, the Police would have been called and I would find myself in a cell.
I applaud the man 👏👏👏
He is actually exposing the idea of giving a certain group of people benefits and privileges over another group of people simply by their race, is a stupid, unfair aaaaand racist policy 🙄
The way I see it my ancestors are first Nation.... British.
Britain was the first nation to civilise the natives overseas , educate and teach them the word of God.
The loincloth lot should be grateful we did.
We founded it.
We built it.
We defended it.
That makes Australia ours.
Industrialised does not mean civilised. As for the Word of God (that which you have been essentially starved), if this nation applied the word of God to its policies, we would not be degenerate warmongers in a nation with so much inequity.
@@aRecluse We are superior advanced beings that came to help. And they just keep shitting on us.
But the Brits aren't pure blood anything. They're mongrels. So many different nations or tribes invaded their grey little island, they're like Heinz soup, 57 different varieties.
There is only one race, it's called the Human Race.
There is no human race. There is a human SPECIES. Races in humans are the equivalent of varieties of plants and in other animals.
@@chriswatson1698
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. Amen.
Jesus is coming....Repent....
There is no such thing as a human race. There is a human SPECIES. Race in humans is the equivalent of variety in plants and in other animals.
@@chriswatson1698
We are created in his image.
@@mariahewitt9787 Says whom? A series of primitive middle eastern rulers?
so, basically, of the $4.2 billion per year, about $1.4 billion goes to frauds........1/3
Got proof of that "third" figure? Has it been proven?
2 Flags-NATION DIVIDED...
I know some Aussies that look like their from Scandinavian countries say their indigenous.What a bloody joke.
When you get those sweet handouts you just grow bigger hands.
Money money more money 💰 😮😮😮😮
D.N.A. tests !!!! An make
Em pay their own !!!
"Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome" - Charlie Munger
What I find appalling is that people feel the need to lie when ticking boxes just to get the same as anyone else. It should be the same for everyone. It would do away with the need for "ticking the boxes".
tommy mayo , is the first one to be called a FAKE