AMD did NOT disappoint me - RX 6800 Series Review
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After nearly a decade struggling under Nvidia’s GeForce GPUs, AMD’s Radeon is finally back on top - Assuming AMD’s marketing was true. But is there enough here to recommend?
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Can't wait to get my hands on these cards in two years.
2 years? I'm waiting for these cards to show up at the refurbished market.
I cant wait to get it in 10 years
Yup
Same
Looks at this optimistic guy.
At this point I don’t even care if it’s a nvidia or Radeon card I just want to be able to buy a freaking new card...
ffs honestly it’s so annoying i went to micro center at 4:30am and found out they only had 12 GPUs at the minnesota one
for real tho
@@MikeyZ_ And how many people in line?
Same, I literally don't care which one I end up with, just gonna buy whichever one I can find.
@2BuckGeo uh... shut up?
2010: "Minecraft basically runs on anything"
2020: "We MIGHT have had playable framerates in Minecraft"
Doesn't help that every update shits on the codebase. 1.12 runs fine
@@phrostbit3n Lmfao, you use 1.12? Man, I feel rich now..
@@PizzaInSpace I don't, I play and host latest snapshot, but large servers are impossible after the code cleanup, even with multiplayer optimized forks of jars like paper. There's a reason big servers run heavily modified 1.12
@@phrostbit3n LEGENDS NEVER DIE (1.12.2)
yea lol i get 500 fps at 1.8.9 and on 1.16.4 im lucky to get 60 solid.
Even if it's not as good as Nvidia overall, the fact that AMD pretty much caught up in gaming performance (without ray-tracing) is promising for their future GPUs
Not for us because they will raise the prices to the same level as Nvidia and so we will have a fight of performances such as Apple and Samsung are doing T.T AMD will lose their charm and become a performer industry instead of becoming a gamer-broke-friendly company
@@Jok3rzZ117 You do realise that the only reason Nvidia's cards such as the 3080 are so cheap relative to the 2080 ti which sold for 1100 or so MSRP and often far above in reality is because of AMD right? If it wasn't for AMD, Nvidia would be charging 1000 plus for the 3080 most likely. Competition is good as it drives DOWN prices, not raises them up and if AMD beats Nvidia at some stage outright and puts up their prices, then you can just go to Nvidia for cheaper. And there will always be cheaper cards released as well. Whereas if Nvidia or AMD are outright winning for far too long, they'll up prices to ridiculous levels.
@@Jhakaro So you're saying people should stop buying nvidia to put them in their place and get the rtx5000 series for next to nothing?
@@Jhakaro i feel like this would be true but in the current availability situation i dont think it really fucking matters.
Seems like the same story for the past decade with them. Zero reasons to ever buy their GPUs.
Linus: "AMD is probably going to move a lot of these because you can't buy an RTX card at the moment"
Everyone: " You can't buy either cards at the moment"
I can't even buy older cards.
@@tonestar_ why the fuck would you buy a prebuilt?
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe If the extra cost isnt too big, a prebuilt coming in 2 weeks with a 3090 could be worth more then waiting for stock 2-4 months from now
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe some pre builts are fine. It's just the crappy prebuilt companies that use cheap products to be shamed upon. Digital storm is one of the good ones
Probably was cheaper than buying the card alone these days
Rage mode is enabled for people trying to buy the cards.
NVIDIA when Radeon 6000 series GPU’s are announced: Rage mode *ON*
Rage tracing
I saw same comment on Jayztwocents channel 😉
@@superaconi97 Also on gamers nexus video.
I'm waiting for the 6900xt bench 😅
These prices make me laugh because you can't find them at those prices
U can find them for that price on amds own site for like 1s-1min depending model every thursday
@@splot9165 Only wish I had a bot that can buy it quickly enough but then again, I would be competing with other peoples bots whom are just as desperate.
maybe you should get your physical arse and go to a physical store, you will luck out of they are in stock though, thats the issue.
@@TheMwowner1 I worked at best buy for 2 years and this was prior to the pandemic. People reserved their copy online and picked it up from the store. There was zero in store inventory of graphics cards in store. Maybe it works like that in your country but not here in the USA
@@jerbsherb4391 there are multiple bestbuys where im from, there is also b&h, microcenter. I guess you are right, i do live in a third world country =), called New York City lol.
RUclipsrs: AMD VS NVIDIA
Everyone: Whatever you can get your hands on.
facts
Somehow I was actually able to get a 2060
@@rainbowdroidman how much did you get it?
@@rainbowdroidman so? those never had stock issues and are low end cards
@@majora919 2060 isn't low end
What a timeline we live in where Minecraft becomes the kryptonite for next gen Graphics Cards..
Can it run Minecraft? Haha you fool... oh wait ... ;)
Linus litterally chose the worst game on which those radeon gpus run and called it a day wow how unbiased
@@zayd1111 I had never even heard of that version of minecraft until today. Who even uses it? I still play the Java version for its easy modding support
Oh those ten year olds with six-fitty in dey back pocket.
grafficks*
Bad time to be a gamer. No GPUs in stock,no new CPUs stock and no new consoles in stock. Nice
@@fffUUUUUU 😂
only bad if you dont have one in place
And barely any games came out in 2020
must consoooom
haha yup i was ready to shell out for both new consoles and a new gpu this month, but i've now decided to wait on all of them until probably this time next year, or beyond. snooze you lose amd/sony/microsoft/nvidia
Title: AMD did not disappoint me
literally the whole video: telling how RTX 30-series is better than the new Radeon.
😅🤦♂️
No he’s talking about what they delivered, 30 series won on modes that not much people use atm, come on now do you use ray tracing?
He is doing just correct review on AMD vs NVIDIA. That thing he is not disappointed makes sense, because AMD delivered everything what was promised.
@@younghentaii1772 Because all the other bullshit reviews floating about on the net are not reviewing the whole package, Would you purchase a TV based on just it's sound quality without seeing the image quality? Literally pretty much all other reviewers stopped at rasterisation instead of comparing the products correctly.
@@younghentaii1772 yeah atm cuz they don’t got the new cards but for the once that do get them they probably will otherwise why pay for all that power and not use it
Thank you for adding more discussion on the professional workloads and benchmarks. This adds a lot of real world value to your (already great) videos.
Everyone say it with me:
I solemnly swear,
To not buy from scalpers
Cause they suck
I don't have money to spend :))
I solemnly swear,
To not buy from scalpers
Cause they suck
I solemnly swear,
To not buy from scalpers
Cause they suck
Ngl someone's still gonna buy from them.
I solemnly swear ,
To not buy from scalpers
Cause they suck
The fact that these charts aren't in order from highest framerates to lowest really grinds my gears.
This
ikr, they need to know how to make easy to read graphs
thanks!!! I was like.... SO HARD TO READ
Yeah its annoying, unless you pause the video on each graph you cant really tell what's going on
Convenient for me though because I don't care about the dlss benchmarks
"...we might have had playable framerates in minecraft..."
Lord almighty I never expected to see a sentence like this
Minecraft is already a benchmark, even before RTX. because *shaders*
@@nurenzayyan4825 Have you ever seen minecraft? I had better graphics in the 80's than that....
New World Forward SHUT UP FORTNITE KID
@@newworldforward1842 s h a d e r
@@aasrithkammula5004 bro like i dont care if you like minecraft or not but even gta san andreas has better graphics than minecraft im not hating its just true
I'm actually impressed with AMD, just because they're competing against two companies but are focusing on the CPU side of things. AMD you get your kudos from me. Good job.
Real talk though, Linus has not only aged well, but looks a million times better with his beard. Good on you man!
Having not watched him for a couple years completely agreeee
Genuinely, he's gone from nerd to sexy, I'm questioning my sexuality...
Homie needs a trim tho. Has the geek look to it
@@davkdavk he is a geek 🤦♂️
Shame his videos went all downhill
Linus: "AMD did NOT disappoint me"
Every website: "Out of Stock"
Scalpers: I'll take your entire stock!
It’s even worse than scalpers. They sent pre-order links out to Red Team Plus members, which are the people who actually bought them
@@Amusia727 Proof?
Me: Rage mode activated
Also all local stores: out of stock
Let's just thank AMD for somewhat getting back into competition in gaming GPUs and making nvidia a bit more worried, which will likely lead to appearance of even better GPUs in future (Like it was with super series)
Frankly, anyone expecting Nvidia to be embarrassed by AMD was batshit insane.
Not 6 months ago Nvidia cracked the market by releasing cards that were more than twice as powerful as the previous gen and for half the price.
AMD also spent its last years slaying the Intel beast more and more. And you expected them to both humiliate Intel, catch up to years of delay to Nvidia, and destroy Nvidia when it has the best gen in years?
AMD managed to go from being the backwater company to catching up to Nvidia and beating them in the classic department. Winning in Raytracing in their first RT gen when Nvidia already has one behind was never going to happen. AMD deserves a pat on the back and a kiss for what they've done already, that's an excellent growth.
Also, people don't mention this enough, but AMD relies on Vulkan and DX12 to power up a good part of its RT, as I understand it. Will that make them beat Nvidia? Almost definitely not, but it means the gap will shorten.
Shorthand of this gen's war is that if you want solid, powerful, classic graphics, and Linux gameplay or have a FreeSync screen, AMD is the better choice. If you want 4K/GSync and full RT power, Nvidia is the choice. If you care for none of those points, 6800 XT vs 3080 is pretty much a tie and either card will greatly satisfy you. Great job AMD for actually managing this.
All good points.
2 things though. 1) Tons of Freesync monitors work with Nvidia GPUs, just double check before you buy - no reason to pay the Gsync premium. 2) Is 6 months ago a typo? Cause 30 series released 2 months ago... in any event these companies know what their competition is bringing. And did Nvidia just cut the price in half out of the goodness of their heart? I don't think so. I think they knew what big Navi had in store - they could guess from extrapolating the new console specs if nothing else - and lowered their price. If the 6800xt had come out with performance around a 2080 Ti, I promise you the rtx3080 would cost $1000 MSRP.
It's what I've been trying to preach to people, dont be team red or team green, be team COMPETITION. When they're neck and neck WE win. :)
More than twice as powerful for half the pruce? Were you high when you wrote this? Did you lie on purpose or is this just malicious misrepresentation?
@@cooltwittertag ikr
AMD definitely has some amazing progress
You didn't mention price.
Linus logic:
-Negative Title and dissapointed face for a positive review
-Positive Title and satisfied face for a negative review.
All warfare is based on deception.
- Sun Tzu
Not really... you didnt even watch, you pathetic kids just copy top comment and ruin fact bringers.. youtube needs to have a useless wrong information vote button to make you kids sink
People don't realize how true this is. Just watch his RTX 3070 review. Negative title and face, but praises it for 90% of the video and talks about the supply issues for like 30 seconds. Here, positive title and face, then proceeds to talk about how much Radeon is missing and how it's not worth buying, but talks about the cards having good gaming performance for like 30 second...
@@4mash this isnt true, the conclusion is the title and his conclusion for these cards is that amd didnt disappoint. watch the whole video
@@dertythegrower Dang, someones salty. If he was really simply a "fact bringer," then he wouldn't of click-baited the video. Not hating on Linus for doing such as that is what every other RUclipsr does to get more clicks, but take that into account. People come thinking that AMD crushed nvidia, as that's basically what linus's first video on these cards was, because he uses a title suggesting that the cards lived up to his expectations. If anyone needs to sink, its you. If you were capable of critical thinking, maybe you would of noticed the stark contrast between the title and the video.
So we're back to the days of "Which is better?" "It depends a lot."
It never left
That's great tho, competition is good for consumers
Which is better is whoever can get some F*cking stock first.
Nah it's still the same amd is for value and Rtx is for ppl with money
@@WahotsW Based on what I'm seeing on Twitter right now, AMD might get stomped on availability. It's looking worse than Nvidia's launch early on.
I'm still rocking that 7970 Ghz edition, but I'd like to upgrade soon. One experience I've had that I think will work out in AMD's favor for their new cards is that the performance and features just kept getting better for years. Software features can be added with driver updates, and if you look at old 7970 vs. GTX 670 reviews, they were neck in neck at release, but 2 years later the 7970 had a 15% performance lead. Also, just like the new cards, it had twice as much VRAM which made way better in the long run.
The last video card I bought was a GTX 570. Good god has everything improved so much since then. Might hold out on a new build for another year or two.
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hehe
I found the funny
funny im dying of laughter
@Vecopotryx nice
haha i actually loled a little, good one
“But, the future’s the future. Let’s see how things look today.” - Linus Sebastian
Actually a pretty great quote
time stamp?
"Quotes are bad." - me(2020).
2:26
I'm actually seeing so many people on forums telling others to choose AMD over Nvidia, bringing up the fact that AMD will also have a DLSS-like feature so there's nothing else keeping them from buying a Radeon right ? Smh
@@takk1 2:25
Just upgraded to a 6800 from my old R9 290 from 7 years ago. So cool to see you talk about it right at the start, cause I remember watching your old video about it from way back then
Disappointing stock levels are a must for every new computer part this year.
Just buckle in it is probably going to be like that for a few years.
Title: AMD did NOT disappoint me
Video: AMD did disappoint him
Well, yes and no..
I had a 2080, hoping to snag a 3080. Never used ray tracing or dlss. 6800xt looking good for alot less 👁👄👁
Literally 50$ less for roughly same performance and 1/4 of the features. Oh and Radeon drivers.
Yes but actually no
Gaming performance, didn’t dissapoint
Features outside of gaming but still relevant to gamers... dissappointing.
GPU buying guide Q4 2020:
Is it in stock? If yes, then buy it.
Just buy it...
@@aadharsh1094 no stock kid
@@flycrack7686 yea ikr
Legit bought a strix 3090, was the only one in stock
@@Troint 👍👍👍
So it's finally almost as good? Progress, I'm supporting the cause and going AMD this time.
3 years later, 6800 price is now below 3070 price, and 3070 frame rate with rt on is so poor that players do not activate it, so this is no more an advantage over rx6900.
RDNA 2: You can't defeat me!
Flight Simulator: I know... BUT HE CAN!
"MINECRAFT RTX"
Minecraft RTX 4k Ray-Tracing exist.
RTX 3080: 30fps, take it or leave it
So... Can it run Minecraft in 2020?
Minecraft ray tracing is coming to consoles, which is the same architecture as the radeon cards. I hope that we will see some of those optimizations come to pc.
@@SpedRockt it gained a 120 fps on the benchmarks
@@bevercage6673 120 fps compared to 40 around 😂 ( i forgot how much amd performed in minecraft rtx ).
Linus: "AMD did not disappoint"
Proceeds with 10 minutes of disappointments.
nah, those "disappointments" are expected. did you seriously expect AMD to go toe to toe with nVidia immediately? their drivers are always trash, it's their first gen Ray Tracing architecture and they don't have nearly the development budget for flashy features like nVidia has, most of which most people won't use.
yeah, i dont get that either
I expect more form rx 6800xt.
Also the small community at linux gang would prefer amd GPU anyway
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks pretty sure linus gets some form of kickback from amd that he doesn't reveal. pretty much all amd videos have pro amd titles but never provide reasons to buy amd over intel or nvidia.
Nvidia: you can’t beat me
Amd: I know but he can
Driver updates
arent AMD drivers known to be kind of trash?
@@Longshotsz amd has this thing, where the drivers are the one that tends to hold back the gpus, so as time goes on, the drivers gets updated, making the gpus run faster than when they released. The rx 5500xt slightly sucked compared to the 1650S, but after a few driver updates, it can now match and even beat the 1650S
@@kaizu8326 The "fine wine" argument doesn't stand. If it was bad at launch, It's nice that it got better but how long was the value of the card compromised?
@@Longshotsz true. I think Red Team here needs to make sure that the driver is good before launching the cards
@@kaizu8326 agreed, let's hope for the future
Dont even have a computer but I'm addicted to your videos lol. Been binge watching, now I might have to try to get one. Keep up the good work guys.
I like how i always see prices which are never seen in an actual shop.
69th like nice
Exactly. A 3080 for $699?
That is almost never the price that consumers pay. FE cards are basically non-existent and the AIB cards carry markups of between $100-300 USD
RDNA 2 supply is expected to continue rolling in over the coming weeks and months but demand is insanely high for GPUs in general so gamers will have to be sharp and stand by the F5 key in order to snag a card at MSRP.
I.e. in Aus - 3070 for $1150 vs 6800 for $950... seems semi no-brainer at those rates... and a 6800xt at $1050
So comparing 6800XT to 3070, no brainer?
Not that it matters, there's no stock of any.
In Germany the Asus rog strix 3080 from an actual computer shop goes to almost 1000 EUR....
ROG Strix 3080 is $1049 in the US from my distributor (D&H)... Whenever it returns to being available. I've seen it in stock twice since Sept 1st
"I'm DONE covering for NVIDIA - RTX 3070 Review"
- Generally positive review, and recommends
"AMD did NOT disappoint me"
- Generally negative review. Does not recommend
Go figure
linus is emotionally abusing us
@@bena7869 I wish it was that innocent.
Even the 3080 review has a surprisingly negative title and opening speech in the video, followed by nothing but praise afterwards.
I'm starting to question Linus's intentions by misleading people that are casually passing by.
It's to attract those amd fanboys to see the video.
My man will quite literally never stop covering for nVidia. He doesn't know how.
@@superblitz2274 You ok there? I can smell the Nvidia fanboyism lol
THANK YOU! for saying the word analogous! I was trying to use it last night in a text and it was driving me nuts that I couldn't remember the word! I just knew it's definition and how to use it. I kept thinking of the word allegory. Ugh, I could kiss your script writer right now lol.
😂😂
Happens to be a lot too
*Me
Wow I didn't knew anything about the Productivity issues and machine learning hardware stuff ! I am glad I watched the video and until the very end !
"You cannot get a RTX card at this moment" -- Linus, Keeper of most of them.
loooool :D
yeah i like the burn he had at the end sure it's not as great as the 3000 series but at least it's available and it's close enough
I got my RTX 3090 ez
@@DNB_connoisseur bro I am still waiting in a big queue. eBay is just going crazy with prices and the auction lots.
Reading that just make me jealous. lol still happy you have that sexy beast. I will be happy with a 3070.
Yeah, big burn. He's got 3 cards, I'm sure nvidia just messed up and meant to send them all to you
Linus: “It doesn’t disappoint me!”
Also Linus: it sucks so bad
ikr lmao, it does suck imo
@Nec Ro who?
Bruh
it might suck but amd is very different to nvidia. amd has still room for improvements regarding rtx, because amd hasnt considered that yet. and also those cards are meant for productivity and is not very suitable for high res gaming.
What percentage of people are streaming? If you game at 1080p or 1440p without Ray Tracing...(90%+ of PC gamers?) The choice seems pretty easy to me. If Ray tracing, streaming and the software/productivity features are a must... Then get an RTX 3080 if you can find one retail.
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I do like that approach, very nice informative video!!
Linus: "It's basically unwatchable"
me on my potato monitor: "it's the same picture"
Yea i had an rx 570. Same encoder on all gpus. The avc encoding is so bad, you cannot see anything but muddy crap even on 50 mbps bitrate.
Anddd the drivers are hideously buggy. Relive green screen bug anyone? hevc 20 fps coinflip encoding bug anyone??
@@huleyn135 I actually haven't had that green screen bug, but I also haven't used that feature in a long time. It could be much worse now for all I know.
Looks pretty crap on the 1366x768 cheap Chromebook IPS display. But I do think the 1060 on my desktop also has a crappy encoder.
@@huleyn135 That green screen bug lost me a lot of clips. SMH
Honestly this is a absolute joke at this point. Bots and scalpers take everything within seconds because there’re about 7 cards stocked.
i know right, scalpers pushed rtx 3070 prices up to 750$ in my area,
just why?
I still don't understand why they haven't placed a captcha system to prevent at least the bots from buying
@@Armetron CAPTCHA can be bypassed easily though, they should really just implement 1 per address or card type limits or make queues that allow for one unique entry only. But then again they are still making money so why bother
@@JimRussels If these cards are getting grabbed, it means nvidia underpriced them. They could've priced 3070 at 250$ more and reduced price 6 months later
They do it because it works people are dumb enough to buy, and its the same people that bought all the medical supplys when the pandemic started to sell them at a significant markup, i think robbing or doing worse to them is absolutely okay at this point, i mean nobody needs those people anyway.
That intro is one hell of a sign to upgrade, considering I am running that exact r9 290 screamer/blower whatever you want to call this banshee howling cooler while watching this video. That said, at 1080p, this card STILL holds up. Thanks for the drivers, AMD.
AMD: Sends Linus cards
Linus on Launch Day: AMD did not disappoint ME.
And all the other REVIEWERS, but set the rage mode on to the customers...🙄
I'm really getting tired of Linus giving new products positive reviews to save face on his initial impression reviews. Fact is, AMD dropped the ball with raytracing on this card.
@@Zaneris RT is not the problem of the card - it is, as since first RX series 4 years ago - MEMORY STARVED - go watch Gamer Meld's video. RX 6800 XT Overclocks like there is no tomorrow (up to 2675 Mhz stable) but for literally no performance gain in 99% of the titles. This card should have been with HBM
AMD proceeds to disappoint........#denial
Wait isn't that a pun
When he says Amd did NOT disappoint me .
i thought the NOT bold in titles meant it was good but nvidia is still a better option...
Title: AMD did not disappoint.
Video: here's every way AMD disappointed me.
He probably didn't expect much.
@@jaisinghbisht3303 That is literally what he said in the video.
AMD did not disappoint in disappointing me
Beard is still on point for Linus --- Keep rockin' dude (also good content!)
I think these MSRP comparisons are really only applicable in the US, provided you got one of the reference cards. In my country ( România) the 3070 starts at roughly 850 US dollars. I'm hoping I can get an rx 6800 tomorrow which is about 800 dollars here. Between the two, I like the 16gb vram on the RX 6800 and I don't care all that much about the other features.
I thought you weren’t disappointed ... this sounds kinda disappointing
You can’t be disappointed if you were already expecting this
well it's the closest they got vs nvidia in years, also they delivered on what they advertised, still not better than Nvidia but that was the case with first gen ryzen vs Intel wasn't it? It's a promising result to say the least. But for these prices are not an option really.
@@inadover you're a genius
Privileged much?
its a big jump from AMD cards literally being unusable to trading blows with NVIDIA. It should not be disappointing to have some competition in this market.
This is the new
"bUT cAN iT rUn MinECrAfT"
RTX edition
As from the charts, ampere can, but radeon cannot. was really rooting for the underdog here but their offerings aren't attractive in any way.
@@Nobaris9961 agreed
No it cant
@@Nobaris9961 they sold out in seconds anyway. another paper launch
No it isnt
Comment sections always ruined by trite copycat jokes from little kids looking for likes
These cards are even faster now with AMD's newer drives. Considerably faster in fact. 6800 beats a 3070 almost always now.
It actually reaches around the 3080. Around only 10% slower.
as it should, 6800 competed with 3080 not 3070, its not price that determines level, its bus width and tier or card, nvidia charge extra for ai and cuda and other stuff linus mentioned in this video, while rx 6900 direct rival was 3090, later rx 6950 xt vs 3090 ti. 3070 rival was and still is 6700 xt
Awesome review as always. Really enjoy your content! Question though: what are your thoughts on the vram difference? Im gaming at 4k and want to upgrade soon.
The Title: "AMD did NOT disappoint me"
The Content: "quite frankly I am disappointed and can't recommend these cards."
True Linus always fucks my brain '' im done covering for nvidia'' actually speaks great about the 3070 and its the other way around with amd like wtf
@UCDLfFn2uNMiVIskH-wfXY-Q i think amd will not beat nvidia they will be on par and have the 3rd world war in the gpu industry
He is not disappointed, but he cannot recommend, what is the problem? He would be disappointed if AMD did not deliver what was promised, but they did.
@@FallenLight0 i do recommend the 6800 xt if you are a high fps 1080 p 240 hz gamer but if you are all in the visuals you need a 3080 or 3070 also i think the 3070 is the clear choise over the 6800 like its just better
@@fireared9244 i agree and now amdfan boy cant say that "alteast its not gonna be out of stock ", lets just talk about performance and the truth is Nvidia is still better one to chose.
I swear to god, Linus doesn't age. He just grow hair but he doesn't age.
Because he's Linus
Socks and sandals slows aging
Maybe he is replaced by nvidia's deepfake
Nah he looks older for sure. The quarantine beard is just the best choice he's made since leaving NCIX.
on the latest wan show he had very bad wrinkles
"They had us in the first half not gonna lie"
Something that no one mentions is that AMD released 4 major products this year. That is crazy hard, and I am without a doubt certain that a LOT of people will still not be happy with what AMD has done. Nvidia had to release only one product line and they blew it.
Feedback: Actually the review was a bit confusing. I can see how AMD fell short in RT. But I really did not get a clear indicator of just overall performance across a wide array of games.
I get it is weaker in RT and lacks features compared to 3XXX, but I lack any real info on performance for the games I play or value comparison.
I would prefer if you guys had another go at it, with another video showing some standard benchmarks, across more games and maybe a few synthetics.
It will probably be the same conclusion. But I do not feel like I was brought along for the ride of what lead to that logic.
Watch hardwarecanucks vid.
Or Hardware Unboxed
+1 for Hardware Unboxed. Their video is more in depth and covers 18 games at different resolutions. I watched it before the LTT video and came away with a far clearer understanding of the relative performance of each card. Spoiler alert, they found the 6800XT to be superior at 1440p while the 3080 does better at 4k. They also didn't see such a huge disparity with RT in the games they tested (although terrible performance in Minecraft RTX seems pretty certain).
Basically there is no meaningful difference between them in real world rasterised gaming but once you turn RT on AMD fall behind a lot and then in games that have both RT and DLSS 2.0 support the 6800 series is getting bested by even a 2060 super. Ouch.
yeah basically none of the games i play have ray tracing, nor do i have a 4k monitor, nor do i do rendering or video editing. i’d like to see some other comparisons.
2030: *Linus referencing this video and pointing out how old he feels again.*
While looking no older
@@gigakoresh LOL, TOO DIRTY
Hah i was there in all the old video's 🙋
And Intel will still be on 14nm.
EDIT: This is a joke, I love both AMD _and_ Intel. :)
maybe they'll be in stock by then
It's 2024 and I just purchased a Red Devil 6800 XT for $429 to upgrade from my old trusty 2070 Super. Given the lack of performance increase of the 7800 XT and the unaffordability of the RTX 4000 series, I believe I made the best choice performance-to-price at this time.
Why wasn't the large VRAM difference mentioned in the review? I always had a hunch this was gonna cause issues much sooner than people realized and I was right. Very happy I went with the 6800XT over a 3080. The 16GB VRAM allows the Radeon GPUs to max out textures for another couple of years, literally giving you a better looking game without tanking FPS. Ray Tracing requires extra VRAM so that's out of the equation.
Most gamers upgrade their GPU every 4-5 years or so. Taking this into account, **unless you're the kind of enthusiast who upgrades every 2 years to get top gear**, the AMD cards were and still are a MUCH better buy and in my opinion this should have been obvious for tech experts.
Keep in mind a lot of people make their purchasing decisions based off reviews and advice from channels like LTT. I personally know a lot of 8-10GB RTX3000 owners that now wish they went with AMD's 12-16GB cards. There is a mismatch between GPU power and VRAM for Nvidia cards, which is a serious issue that AMD cards don't have. The 4070Ti and 4080 will also choke on VRAM long before the GPUs become "slow", which is unacceptable considering their ridiculous price tags, making the 7900 cards or even a 6950XT automatically a better buy for most gamers. Some new games already require over 14GB VRAM.
This should be adressed by LTT imo. Other channels have already made videos about it. I'm just wondering why you didn't see this coming and didn't even acknowledge the VRAM difference at all in your reviews.
Can’t believe that they are aiming at ANOTHER 50% Perf Per Watt in ONLY 1 yr.
Ikr? RDNA *3* is looking to be very exciting. Wonder if Ampere 2 is shaping up the same way?
They already have that figured out...and probably even the step after.
@@benjaminoechsli1941
Ampere 2 won’t exist, they usually do different names each gen. Like pascal or maxwell.
@@Wusyaname_ It's Hopper
@Needz 900 was Maxwell. 1000 was pascal
Also me just now: Didn't even see an online listing, and by the time it showed up, the 6800 was out of stock. Nice.
same, didnt even see the 6800 xt, like wtf
Me also pressing f5 for 30 mins then boon when listing show its already out of stock
Same thing happened to me, I was watching on 4 websites
0:36 "they didn't"
Nice, all i needed to know!
see ya!
These are some of the best videos you make on graphics cards! Your awesome!
Another "not a paper launch" where retailers get like 15 cards to sell and ebay slingers are the big winners.
That's why they should launch entry-level and low-end to mid-range GPUs first. Like the sub-mid range rx5700xt or low-end rx 480/580 back in 2016 and 2019.
These die sizes are way too big for big volume.
@@badass6300 But those also meet waaayyy more demand, and make a worse impression on the customer (first impression of high end vs first impression of low end/mid range)
I dont get the issue. Let the first early adapters fight between themselves, and when the manufacturer fixes glitches, problems and the price is a tad lower, then buy one. Early buyers are nothing more than test benches for the manufacturer.
ebay slingers are only winners if people buy them at their ridiculous prices... which no one should do. Just wait for more stock.
@@christoph6055 except that you get about 6-8x times more cards and you also need less PCB components, less VRAM, so yeah.
Also, 95%+ of people buy GPUs under 400$ according to AMD and Nvidia's financial reports literally every year.
AMD is like this lazy but smart af friend that when they get serious, they could be the smartest and most dependable person you know.
But no one is a fan of because they can't seem to make any friends (less than 5% market share). AMD would be great if they actually cared about gaming other than console hardware. VR, for example, straight up does not work on AMD GPUs.
@@evolicious i have a friend with a RX 580 and he can run games in VR just fine
@@youtubeshadowbannedme Ignore that fool, he knows nothing
@@evolicious My friend does VR fine on his Rx5700xt lmao.
That last second jab at NVidia in the end there 😂
Thank you for the video. I looked tor Micro Center's link into the description and I couldn't find it. Just to let you know. Have a lovely day.
Linus: "AMD did NOT disappoint me"
Also Linus: * Produce a video full of disappointments *
i think he intentionally structured his video that way, best things first and worst last. he often does that with products that are great on one hand while lacking something major.
Just a nice way of saying AMD lost again but it's still decent lol
@@NuthinButRespect I see it more as a first gen radeon moment. At this point nvidia can either get it in gear and buckle down with their engineering, or they can go the way of intel by next generation. By next generation unless nvidia makes another significant jump, AMD will be on top, just like how Ryzen is now on top of Intel's offerings.
@@mtnentertainment3454 nividia has proved that there not gonna stay idle like Intel, they are pushing out more cards for January.
Yup 6800xt for just 50 cheaper doesn't make a lot of sense,and the stock situation isn't any better(some say it's worse than Nvidia)
"AMD is gonna move a lot of these seeing as how you can't actually buy an RTX card"
if he only knew
They sold out too?
@@Mart-E12 In Canada, there are not many actual products being shipped to stores. A lot of stores are seeing only a few per store. In a city with 200k people, only having 10ish? That is really, really bad.
Its worse. B&h didnt even bother listing, amazon has listed yet, and everyone sold out immediatley. I actually got one in my cart on amds site but their spam detector kicked me from the server mid checkout for 5 min. Theres hundreds of scalpers on ebay already and my organic order got blocked. Ridiculous.
So same shit like with rtx30s...
@@Mart-E12 what is the fucking deal?! Are they trying to piss people off? I’m starting to think they do this shit on purpose for the exclusivity factor and pushing impulse buys. Like you guys can’t figure this shit out? You’re billion dollar corporations, how is this possible?
The GPU market is an absolute shitshow man. Unacceptable, except we have no choice but to bend the knee.
Nice to see some high-end competition finally come back
Here we are in the future in September 2023 on the eve of the release of the RX 7800 and STARFIELD, and I just ordered a new 6800 for just £349. I also ordered a new Asrock Intel Arc A770 for £190.
Yes, folks in November 2020, Intel actually did it. They made some GPUs, and even got some partners on board (Asrock, Acer and Sparkle). And they ain't half-bad, though it's taken almost a year of driver updates to get them mostly stable and performing quite well.
They don't run STARFIELD though. But then hardly anything does, not above 60 FPS, even at 1080p - not without upscaling.
Anyway, I already have a new RTX 4070 in my main rig thanks to some interest-free credit, but I've got addicted to buying and messing about with alternative GPUs now that they are not ridiculously priced... apart from the ultra high-end stuff.
The RTX 4090 is a beast but its MSRP is £1599... Nvidia became the scalpers, folks!
Oh, anyone in the past want to buy a used RTX 3070? It's 2023 and 8Gb just doesn't cut it any more.
I just brought mine for £440😭
1:14 nice
What
@@zen608 69 😏
Nice
Nice
nice
People in the queue to trying to buy these: RAGE MODE
@@thelightsilent According to GN, that varies wildly from game to game. Which game you testing?
@@thelightsilent If you only play Minecraft that's true. But if you look at a wide range of games, while still trailing behind, it's far from tha.t
@@thelightsilent The only game where you see this is Minecraft RTX, in all the others they are very close, DLSS still gives Nvidia that little boost that convinces many
@@TheSerbianEmperor Yeah. But Minecraft RTX is a very important feature to me sooooo......
-$1900
+RTX 3090
@@daedalus6433 Dude above you has been spamming this in all comments
Linus is never disappointed since he always gets the card first lmao
Lovely. Hopefully these can be found on the shelves soon and maybe I can get a used 2070 or something for cheap.
This feels a little like Ryzen first gen.
But ryzen first gen was cheap
@@michaelhuang7080 I think they invested more in RDNA2 so they increased prices to cover it up
@@michaelhuang7080 Nope it wasn't,
The 5700XT was first gen
@@michaelhuang7080 1st gen ryzen was incredibly expensive for what it offered at the time
Theres 2 options atm:
1. You cant afford one.
2. Not in stock
Where is the I'm poor
Yay copy/pasta
Can't*******
@@trafficracer124 that's choice #1.
Only interested in the RX6600xt and RX6700xt anyway.
the intro is so dope XD
This is a great point about productivity. 10% gain or loss in rendering or compute isn't a deal breaker for me. But lacking software and driver support is.
"AMD did NOT disappoint me"
Complains about the card the entire video.
AMD is objectively worse than NVIDIA with some exceptions, and even those exceptions are minimal.
Also I'm not a fanboy to any brand.
He pointed out things that are true. Do you prefer that all reviewers just gush over the thing that they're reviewing, without pointing any weaknesses or issues?
RX 6k is not a disappointment by any means.
RX 4/500 was a disappointment.
If AMD had priced it $50 less than NVIDIA instead of $50 above, they would be in a very compelling spot given the issues with their card are marginal. But for $50 more you get equal performance on most titles at full resolution, worse performance compared to DLSS, worse productivity, and no AI enhancements.
@@detenator1 the 6800xt is 50 cheaper than the 3080, though the 6800 is 80 more than the 3070
@@Sheltada Now that you mention it I do remember that from their previous video. Honestly I don't care about DLSS or AI much so I'd probably go AMD if I was buying one right now.
I would love to see VR benchmarks when reviewing GPUs, VR can be one of the most taxing everyday tasks you can do on a PC, and Nvidia boasts about VR specific optimizations on their cards, I know benchmarking VR is hard to do and that's why no one does it in their reviews but I know that if there is a channel that can manage it it's got to be LTT!!!!
Yes, VR runs better on nvidia in some games, at least what i've seen is skyrim VR, its better on nvidia.
I'm surprised GN or LTT don't already do this, now that you mention it.
Granted, VR games are a small population percentage, but among us enthusiasts it's a comparably high percentage.
I prefer AMD because relive VR streaming to Oculus quest works great for me
Wow that throwback insert has my GPU. R9 290, served me well. Good card.
Just upgraded from a gforce 1060 to a 6800xt. To say I'm happy would be an understatement.
This looks like my path as well soon! Hope you are still thrilled with your 6800xt!
@@Reseng getting the rx 6800 today. I didn’t believe what i saw. 3080 performance for this price??? I’m getting it good as new for €380 euros
It's definitely a great card! I hope you enjoy it!
@@Reseng thanks bro! I got a deal for 180 few weeks ago: ryzen 5 3600x/16gb ddr4 3600mhz ram/motherboard/stock cooler!!! Now i only have to buy a psu for like 80 euro’s case for 60 new at local storen and the gpu for 380. And the 3600x performance exactly the same as i9 10th gen on 1440p/4k. Almost no difference. I call this an insane deal.
@@xiyax6241how's the experience so far with 6800? planning to grab the XT one. and also what games you play, run flawlessly? thanks
My choice of new-gen GPU is what I can get on the market without buying from scalpers.
Yes your right
In romania they were on stock for a extremely long time, ryzen 5000 just gone 0, but it took like a week, its 380 for ryzen 5 and our average salary is 600 bucks so you can guess why, rtx 3070 is like 900 bucks
@@thedamntrain5481 no they weren't, what are you on about? Every nVidia 3000 card that I have checked where either on special order or out of stock. We'll see with AMD, but I suspect the same. Not to mention that here, in Romania, the price in store for 6800XT is 900$, not 649$ ... Because our retailers are fucking greedy bastards.
@@RandomByte89 what do mean it doesnt matter? In usa you get the same card for cheaper and also you have a bigger budget, you see all those 1000 builds?? Those are top of the line computers here, very few people can afford them
@@RandomByte89 3070 should be 500 bucks not 900
video title: "AMD did NOT disappoint me"
video contents: "AMD DID disappoint you"
he is also wrong, compare this drivel with jayz or even better with level1 who has results for raytracing
Yes but actually no
You watched a different video i guess.
Just because AMD does not yet outright win, does not mean he is disappointed. They are competetive as they promised they just did not overdeliver.
Lol. Because he’ll never use anything but a 3090 at the least, it’s a non-issue to him. So he’s technically right.
same thought
For me the feature to save the last minute as a video clip in shadow play on Nvidias side, is really the feature I can't get out of my mind anymore and amd doesn't have such a good ingame overlay and recording software, so I did also go for team green at this point with an rtx 3070
That intro music never gets old.
I must say... Linus has aged quite well. Much like a fine wine, or cheese.... ok definitely more like cheese!
aged? he seems inmortal wth
Kind of like cheese you forgot in the back of the fridge. Looks fine, but has a little more hair than before
@@gggggart8732 came here to make this joke lol
"Did you beat Nvidia?"
AMD: "Yes."
"What did it cost?"
AMD: "Minecraft."
Rtx
So a pretty massive blow tbh
*Sad Minecraft Music*
Fu** minecraft
Minecraft RTX*
Normal Minecraft or even better, Minecraft Java with good shaders looks and run better on both team's card
Good video i just started doing RX 6800 benchmarks
Funnily enough, there's still a 7970 in my desktop machine next to my feet. Haven't used it much in about 2-3 years but... it served me well for many years before.
Me: "cool $699 for the better one!"
Distributers: "sorry but... were out"
eBay sellers: "I can go $1300 since I still have five of them"
Same Distributer: Ahh look we still have 5 of them for 999$ each. What a surprise....
Me with my Asus tuf OC on offerup: I’ll let it go for 1150$
funny, but impossible they were never IN.
Also eBay seller: You should have used bots if you want new ones at retail prices like I did.
699 funny number 😂
it almost feels like every time Linus titles a video critically he's mostly recommending the product and when he titles a video in favor of the product it doesn't feel like he's recommending it
this channel feels sponsored by amd nowadays..
He's scared to criticize AMD, can't really blame him tbh. Crazy fans
Yep, it has been like that since the beginning of times, that and the tendency to drop stuff.
AMD deserves praise these days. I was a full on intel fanboy up until Ryzen 2. I've been waiting for AMD GPUs to add some excitement to the graphics industry. They'll probably never be as influential as Nvidia, but they're actually in a similar league now, and that's a good thing.
@@Mavis847 oh stfu. Intel fanboys are on the most toxic piles of garbage in the world. You're probably too young to not remember the toxicity from the first half of this decade. If you had any amd component, you would get destroyed.
Get the RX 6800 XT, i'm maxing out all my shit at 1440p with over 140 fps no stutters.
I just got one today!
Yvonne: Honey can you pass me that glass of water
Linus: Alright hon
Speaking of glasses, you can get Glasswire for 25% off-
Linus: *gets slapped*
Nah, he'd be all about that LTT water bottle tho