The 6800 is a beast. Literally costs half as much as the 4070 where I live, and still provides roughly the same performance, as long as you don't buy into the RTX hysteria. Amazing card.
Agree, I have a 3060 right now and RT can look amazing and all but I prefer higher frames so i usually leave it off anyway, the 6800 is looking like a good upgrade and costs 20% less than a rtx 4070 where i'm at
yup. i found with warrant for 400e and comparing to 4070 which costs 600e is complete waste of money. Plus we can clock 6800 to close the gap to 6800xt.
So the 6800 and 4070 trade blows equally, depending on the title. Honestly, very Impressive on AMD. However, Nvidia's value point is totally off base. You can get used RX 6800s for around $400, and a new AIB model for around $500. The 4070, however, runs for $600, comes with 4GBs less VRAM, offering the same, or less performance most of the time. Some games did prefer the newer architecture, and that's normal. But it doesn't justify $100-$150 more. I'm so thankful I chose the 6800.
@@out42c Nice bro, check out Hardware Unboxed "16GB vs. 8GB VRAM: Radeon RX 6800 vs. GeForce RTX 3070, 2023 Revisit", when the 6800 first came out it was faster than the 3070 but now it's outright demolishing it. In new titles on current drivers it probably sits above the 3070ti and below the 3080, such a beast of a card for the money. Congrats man enjoy :)
I got the same AMD Radeon RX 6800, and wow what a bad graphics card the GeForce RTX 4070 is, it has 4GB VRAM less, it costs a LOT more, and uses about the same wattage.
TLDR, the biggest difference is the frame times. 6800 is smoothe as glass compared to the 4070. My guess is it has to do with the wider memory bus in the 6800.
Some comparisons are even more hilarious considering that RX 6800 while running at technically smaller FPS, than RTX 4070, such as Atomic Heart (81 vs 98 AVG FPS), still runs smoother thanks to lower signal fluctuations - Nvidia's cheapening on minor components such as memory bus width bites them back in the ass.
I bought an XFX 6800 core about 4 months ago, doesn't go over 64C at full load and undervolts/overclocks beautifully. I'm getting about +12% mem +8% core clock. Wonderful card!
Ive owned an RX 6800 for about 4 months now, and i have no regrets! Its price to performance is actually really good and compared to the 4070 its a beast! I would rather pay 40% less but get almost more fps with incredible frame times.
@@JegsTV They really dropped the ball with the 40 series. The 4060 & 4070 could have been great mid range cards but they decided to nerf tf out of them but still expected us to buy that shit? HAHAHAHAHA looks like their plan failed! I'm really starting to think Nvidia doesn't care all that much about gamers. We aren't their main focus most of their profit comes from the business segment. It's like we're an inconvenience to them tbh
@@MHF_H Power draw matters way to much when your using laptop . While in desktop it rarely does but even then it still matters. Now if the budget is limited then the best option is for the value to money option rather than premium.
Those are very normal power consumption figures for a 6800. Mine has been overclocked and undervolted to match the 6800XT and still hovers between 200-230W. I didn't even do anything fancy, just the basic tuning stuff in the Radeon software suite.
@@brendougbake4958 6800 = $449 new (also comes with starfield premium), 4070 = $599 new If $150 difference is "basically the same" then idk what to say except "yeah you're right I guess".
I have the XT version and no plans to upgrade to AM5. I am super underwhelmed by most of the AAA games coming out anyway. I may even upgrade to the 6950XT, if it is possible to get one that hasn't been mined. Also with the big announcement of FSR which will give us huge framerate boosts AMD is the best value card imo. Nvidia are just way to greedy for me to even consider them.
I was thinking of upgrading my old 2060 to an amd and after watching this video I can see it's a really good choice and it should hold up with latest games🤔
Got an RX 6800 new on sale for basically half the price of a 4070. Very pleased with it. Wanted to go Nvidia this time, but prices here are just stupid. A 4060 (non-Ti) was the closest in price to the 6800 at the time of purchase. Wild.
Latest AMD drivers have improved performance by a good margin. Still, it's good to see that the RX 6800 is still holding up. I have a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6800 and it doesn't dissapoint at 1080P/1440P gaming at anything I throw at it although I only game at 60fps.
I recently just bought one upgrading from a 2060 very happy with the performance Wish u bought the 6800xt but in reality I don’t need the extra power for my needs
@@ljc606 some people even suggest that you can try to overclock basic rx6800 so it can have almost the same MHz and performance as xt version but I haven't tried it yet on my own
they kinda are 4k 60 fps or 1440p 100 fps +, depends on person who has gpu and what monitor/tv he has, for majority they have 4k 60 hz tvs now, those gpus are cheapest 4k they can get@@Newt00n
@@KDR107 i actually got almost new 1 month used rx 6800 cheap, so i can tell you that i havent reached 12gb vram usage even at 4k on any game i tested so far :) i thin i maxed at 11gb in last of us. 12gb is completely safe, especially for 1440p gpu or 4k 60 fps too, ifyou need 4k 90-120fps and using rtx yeah u need more vram but thats why rx 7900 xtx and rtx 4090 exists
6800 with an oc will match the 4070 in most of these games or just behind it costing a lot less and has more vram. 6800/6800xt the better choice over the 4070 rn.
I've had my RX 6800 since 2020 and had thought about getting an RTX 4070 but seeing that frames are so similar in most games, it doesn't seem to be worth it yet. Perhaps next gen of Nvidia I'll have a look into.
Wasn’t that big of a upgrade on the 4060 and 4070 just basically added frame generation which isn’t worth it you can still use fsr framegen in new games coming out
@@Qelynyou can use fsr framegen infact in all games that support dx11 or 12. its a 1 click addin, other than nvidia with its dlss3 implementation tool which requires modding every texture.
RX 6800 solid for 1080p (Unreal Engine 5) like Forspoken, Highest setting, around 60-80fps. Same result with 6800xt for 1440p. I prefer get a GPU that not giving lower than 60fps without upscaling.
@@KeroNinja.Workspace RX 6800 is enough for 1440p gaming for now but it's already starting to fall behind. If you plan on 1440p gaming in the future then the 6800XT is the better choice.
So the 6800 is almost as fast as the 3080 and 4070? Is it good enough for Diablo 4 and Fortnite on 3440x1440p? I can buy the new Msi Gaming Z Trio 6800 for 499 euro with a free game. I lean towards the 6800 because of it low temps. Powercolor 6800xt Red Dragon is 539 euro, but saw that the 6800xt’s are getting more toasty just like the 6950xt’s.
@@idkconflict hi there, person who hopped from nvidia (7 years experience) to amd (freshly bought), amd software is first of all much more pleasant to look at and very intuitive, i didnt have any trouble ocing/undervolting my gpu, on the other hand to answer your question, you ll have to check the drivers for updates, unless im missing something.
if you keep ray tracing off, the 6800 can compete with a 4070 aka 3080. but the reason the latter cards are more expensive is cause they deliver much better RT performance.
And u cant use dlss with them. Got a reference 6800 and its quiet and enough for qhd but i gonna swap to nvidia because of dlss and frame generation and rtx. FSR 3 wont be that good and their low latency plus only useable for rx 7000 cards.
@@d1sc0nnec78bro, fsr. if fsr is a tad too blurry for you go quality or ultra quality, dlss performance is shit too imo. you could also use xess but i would instead use fsr quality+framegen.
Got 6800 Merc 319 for a 250 bucks, 8 months old.... can't beat that with even open box 4070.,.. yeah new DLSS and fgen but who cares. Raw power is raw power.
@@Clarissa1986 i develop in vrchat , substance painter,unity engine, i run vr constantly, even the 6600 gave me fantastic performance,the 6800 is just cake.
Literally neck and neck, only reason to go for a 4070 of these two is if you can't live without ray tracing. Price difference, huge gap, performance difference negligible.
This is a 4070 vs rx 6800 raster test. And that's fine, but if you buy a 4070, it's to use all its tech, raster, less power consumption, DLSS, FG. So, it's good to know what the card's brute force is, but that's not the only thing to compare.
personally, i dont like fg, the ray tracing better performance is something to evaluate and if price was the same i'll go for the 4070, but that is not the case, i bought for 400 (tax included) last december the 6800 reference (i also needed the card to be that lenght so i couldnt buy custom models).
@Jay-ur5zw if they cost the same then 4070 is the better option, but not perfectly better. 12GB will age poorly beyond 1080p unless you change your GPU every other year.
no, sorry but no, this is fanboy speech, most ppl care shit about rt, and most ppl still buy nvidia. dlss3 was nice until amd got fsr3 tho, thats a point, but not a 150 usd markup point.
Funny in germany prices for a rtx 4070 are 600€ for the inno3D Twin Oc edition (lowest price) and the rx 6800 swft/qick 319 dont know which is 430€ looking at the 1% lows which is the most important almost in every game they are the same so ye if you really want the raw power go for the rx 6800
the quick sucks tho, there is a reason sapphire 6800´s go for over msrp over here. the qck easily gets 115c vram stock, the pulse not even with 2150 fast timings.
@@d1sc0nnec78fsr and dlss were kinda on par at quality settings even back then. now amd also has framegen. you would buy for realisticly 15 fps more in rtx titles that really implement it at 1440p.
If I think that I managed to buy the Rx 6800 for €370 new, and then selling my old Rx 2060 for €120, I made the best purchase ever with a total cost of €250 :O Wow, what a performance!
Not even just the last of us, the frame pacing on Nvidia has been a joke even on the 3000 series if you look at comparisons in all the games. amd is a lot smoother. I noticed it straight away when I switched from the 1080 to the 6800. Doesn't feel choppy at all compared to Nvidia. It's such a shame people are buying more in to Nvidia and don't know any better.
In my country you can find both of this cards for 759$ (thanks to the goverment wich overtax everything) My question is, does the 16GB and 256bit makes it better in the long run for the 6800 over the 4070?
were at an era where going for nvidia means you value RT, FG, DLSS3 but pay the premium price. while going with radeon you want the better raster performance, usually higher vram amount, and cheaper price. so it depends on what your needs and wants are.
I want to ask something. I would be happy if you answer. I want to buy rx6800. My CPU model is i7 7700. I want to play 1080p games. I want to play games at the highest quality. I don't want to buy a lower card because I think the power of this card will decrease after 1-2 years. That's why I want to choose a strong card. This card should last me at least 3-4 years. I know my processor is not enough for this card. But if I fix the fps to 60, will there still be a bottleneck problem? What path should I follow? I would really appreciate if you can help.
Get this card and a cheap 1440p monitor, bottlenecking issues fixed. You'll keep the old one to switch to once newer games are too advanced for the 6800 to carry on 1440p.
@@anitaremenarova6662"nobody plays in 4k" yeah you are 50% right about that. apart from the fact that its a 3080 equivalent and even the 2080 was marketed for 4k gaming. fsr3 works good enough to be within 5% on the fps gain of dlss3 and is available for every dx11+ game out there, the gtx 4070 really doesnt have much points left for it.
in my country right now - decisions, decisions - 6750 xt (base) - 6800 15% more - 7700 xt 29% more - 7800 xt 53% - lowest 4070 61% I think I am eyeing that 6800 but not sure - I have a 2060 super and I mildly used the Raytracing, I consider myself somewhat interested, but the value and rock solid performance of that 6800 looks tempting, it is either the 6800 or get a 7800 xt or wait for 4070 to get cheaper
let me get this straight, your cpu runs at 200 to 300 mhz LESS on the Rx 6800xt's side, which should put the card at a disadvantage. is this deliberate? funnily enough despite that the card beats the 4070 lol
1. The cpu clocks are fluctuating cause im not running PBO. So your claim is false. 2. Deliberate? The CPU does that by itself. 3. The GPU tested on the right side is an RX 6800 non XT.
Why? :D It's better in so many ways. AV1 codec, dlss3 (frame generation), better raytracing performance, lower tdp - lower temperatures, better software.. I don't care spending little bit extra money for this. 12GB VRAM is enough for 1080p gaming or 1440p with DLSS.
@@belec5964 4070 is the most expensive **70 card ever and represents the smallest performance increase from the previous generation. Think about this, the 3070 was significantly faster than the 2080 TI, the 2070 was significantly faster than the 1080TI, the 1060 was faster than the 980, the 3080 is faster than the 4070 in all resolutions even with RT enabled. The card also has just 12 gigs of vram, it is enough for 1440p today(it'll be silly buying the 4070 for 1080p), what of next year or 2 years from now? There is a reason the card and the rest of the 40 series cards are selling so badly. The 4090 is the exception because of the huge performance leap it has from the previous generation.
@@mohyari3075 4070 is literally the same performance as 3080 and even slightly better in some cases. 3080 has 320W tdp vs 200w on 4070 and you even even lower it with undevolting and achieve the same performance. Lower temps + dlss 3 (frame generation), av1 codec, better sw overall. Yes, it true that it should have 16gb's VRAM when 4060ti should have it, which is a total nonsense, but I don't regret buying it for $630 because I was using rtx 3050 before.
@@belec5964 by itself the 4070 is a good card and like you said it has a few things going for it, like low temps, lower tdp and dlss 3. Dlss 3 is the only thing making the 40 series card except the 4090 relevant. Performance is what most gamers care about. In every benchmark I've seen, including toms hardware and gamer nexus the 3080 12gigs beats the 4070 even with RT enabled. Yeah in isolation the 4070 looks fantastic but when you take the generation over generation performance improvements into consideration you'll start to see it has really really bad value as $600 card.
I picked up an rx6800 gaming x trio for 280 dollars used.. on fb market. biggest steal for a card that will last me the next 5 years or more not gonna lie
@@anitaremenarova6662wtf do you even talk about, there are vids from linus tech tips were he bought used mining gtx 480´s and let them run in a WORKSHOP for a full year, not one failed. and they were old as fuck.
@@anitaremenarova6662not regarding transperancy, but ive mined on a 1070ti for 2 years and its now 6 years old, still doesnt crash or other stuff, mined btc back in the day on a 6950, that thing did last even longer. you really have no clue, high temperature enviourments with bad airflow and cool and heat cycles kill the solder, but not the gpu, not vrm´s, maybe vram. a single gpu mining wont die because it mines....
@@JegsTV Tnx, i may do that, depending how much it costs. Powercolor is currently the cheapest one 370e, the one with warranty i think is XFX for 400 or 420e.
@@JegsTV unfortunately those prices are for used HW (so no game with graphic card), not new, new 6800 costs over 70000din that's around 650e in my country, they are complete fuktards with prices for new xDD
Both cards are amazing , its ultimatly comes down to price . In Germany RX 6800 costs NEW vs NEW . around 200 Euros less if we counting both with decent cooling SAPPHIRE /XFX vs ASUS OR MSI HIGHER MODELS , ( Could be 170 euros if you go for the shitty dual fan MSI VENTUS , which due to temp I would not. ) Considering even this scenario for 170 euros you can get either Ryzen 7600 or 5700X in Germany it makes no sense to get RTX 4070 , for Gaming RX 6800 is the best choice , if you need AV1 encoding can get the new RX 7700XT which will shit on both for about 50 euros more than RX 6800 ,but with less VRAM. The only reason I can see someone getting 4070 is CUDA core based applications , but again for professional applications unironically you are better off with ARC A770 which in blender and other tests shit on RTX 4070 and trades blows with 4070ti ( Thats only in most proffesional applications in gaming it gets shit on even by 3060ti sometimes ) and better spend the 200 dollars extra on better CPU.
7700XT is on par with the 6800 in rasterization, it however has the same issues all 7000 gen AMD cards have so unless you plan on streaming I'd avoid it. If you're european then the 6800 is the ultimate pick, arc a770 costs almost the same as it here but performs much worse.
Overclockers UK, RX 6800 is about 50 pounds more than 4060 TI models. AMD need a better marketing team to compete. £400 right now RX 6800 16GB, would smash the yet released 4060 TI 16GB. Gain market share with the right promotion of possible 4K gaming, content creation, energy efficiency.
yeah bud, thing is, this only works with dumb people. the 4080 is marked as a 4k card, why should the 4060 ti be able to do 4k? why would they canabalize their top earner? the 4060 ti barely beats the 3060 ti. this in the end only will hurt nvidia bc the ppl that were dumb enough to believe this will either buy a 4080 and be pissed off the next years, or go amd or intel alltogether.
i dunno about what you saw i cant vouch for them, but these are the results on my end. showed all the parts used at the beginning and even showed the settings used per game for transparency.
@@anitaremenarova6662no, in 4k the 4070 will be WAY WORSE. you realize that upping the resolution will up the vram need? the 4070 has 4 gb less. it prob was a benchmark with dlss framegen on, but not fsr framegen.
Just convinced me to skip this gen and keep my aorus 6800 master. Id assume since it can clear 2.4ghz with an overclock it matchs and beat a 4070 without raytracing
Nvidia absolutely wrecked AMD here 😂 I'm only joking. I'm a big fan of Nvidia cards ( not the price) But I currently have the msi gaming trio 6800 sat in my ebuyer basket. Just seems really good value for a nice looking card.
i mean if you gonna compare the performance of this 2 cards i would still go with the rx 6800 cuz of the price the rtx 4070 almost double the price of rx 6800
Y'all are lucky, in my country brand new RX6800 costs $500 while brand new RTX 4070 is $800 lol, not even worth it getting Nvidia here since the sellers are bunch of arsehole for hijacking the prices
Undervolting. The RX 6800 can be extremely efficient when undervolted while keeping roughly the same performance. It's supposed to increase the longevity of the card aswell, since it runs cooler. It doesn't apply for all the AMD cards however, for example the RX 6800 XT isn't that efficient even when undervolted. But you can find out which card has this potential with a quick Reddit search.
@@br0s4ver56not even undervolted, it just automaticly adjusts its voltage curve if the chip is good enough to drive stock boosts with low volts. my silent bios has like 175w powerdraw at 2175mhz, boost bios 2350mhz 200w, i rock 2550 at 260w if i feel funny.
So basically new and shiny and 100 dollars more expensive perform in some games same and in some slightly better than 2 year old card. GPU segment of the PC market is a joke.
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A used RX 6800 is one of the better value GPUs right now.
i just got a used rx 6800 for 290 usd today, hope it stays long
@@narottamakarunanidhi1731 i pick it up for 215$ today .
Not only can you find it brand new for under $500 but also has insane performance per watt.
@@narottamakarunanidhi1731 I envy you guys, I got one for $450, duty tax and all sheesh
@@amayobidjo well, it is used
Yours is brand new i reckon
The 6800 is truly AMD's 1080ti.
so true
True man
The 6800 is a beast. Literally costs half as much as the 4070 where I live, and still provides roughly the same performance, as long as you don't buy into the RTX hysteria. Amazing card.
Agree, I have a 3060 right now and RT can look amazing and all but I prefer higher frames so i usually leave it off anyway, the 6800 is looking like a good upgrade and costs 20% less than a rtx 4070 where i'm at
Hot boy perspective
yup. i found with warrant for 400e and comparing to 4070 which costs 600e is complete waste of money. Plus we can clock 6800 to close the gap to 6800xt.
thats odd, 4070 is same price as 6800 where i am at. AMD is respectable though
Чел, 6800 разве, что телёнок.
So the 6800 and 4070 trade blows equally, depending on the title. Honestly, very Impressive on AMD. However, Nvidia's value point is totally off base. You can get used RX 6800s for around $400, and a new AIB model for around $500. The 4070, however, runs for $600, comes with 4GBs less VRAM, offering the same, or less performance most of the time. Some games did prefer the newer architecture, and that's normal. But it doesn't justify $100-$150 more. I'm so thankful I chose the 6800.
16 gb сейчас много, у меня в регионе 4070 стоит столько же как и 6800 но у 4070 есть Dlss V.3
@@user-eso-presso 8гб для фхд тоже раньше было много, как мы видим, иметь памяти впритык - так себе идея)
Just got my 6800 msi today.
Amd fanboys this card cant even Ray tracing while 4070 does it easy peasyat 4k loooool
@@paquito4147 you sound a nvidia fanboy. The irony lol
RX 6800 Was ahead of its time
I'm amazed at how good the rx 6800 did. great video thanks for your upload
I am one of what I perceive as the few RX 6800 non XT owners. I have a Founders Edition card. It's gratifying to see how good of a purchase it was.
Did you have any driver issues
@@user-bu1rq2xp3l hahahaa drivcer issue was a thing back in 2015
Founders Edition is a Nvidia thing lol. You have a AMD reference rx6800. I have one too, and yeah they seem kind of rare vs the xt.
@@out42c Nice bro, check out Hardware Unboxed "16GB vs. 8GB VRAM: Radeon RX 6800 vs. GeForce RTX 3070, 2023 Revisit", when the 6800 first came out it was faster than the 3070 but now it's outright demolishing it. In new titles on current drivers it probably sits above the 3070ti and below the 3080, such a beast of a card for the money. Congrats man enjoy :)
I got the same AMD Radeon RX 6800, and wow what a bad graphics card the
GeForce RTX 4070 is, it has 4GB VRAM less, it costs a LOT more, and uses
about the same wattage.
TLDR, the biggest difference is the frame times. 6800 is smoothe as glass compared to the 4070. My guess is it has to do with the wider memory bus in the 6800.
Some comparisons are even more hilarious considering that RX 6800 while running at technically smaller FPS, than RTX 4070, such as Atomic Heart (81 vs 98 AVG FPS), still runs smoother thanks to lower signal fluctuations - Nvidia's cheapening on minor components such as memory bus width bites them back in the ass.
I love my RX 6800. 😁
Me too XD
me too ❤
Which one did you get
@@aa-rg9jw The ref model.
ME TOO
I bought an XFX 6800 core about 4 months ago, doesn't go over 64C at full load and undervolts/overclocks beautifully. I'm getting about +12% mem +8% core clock. Wonderful card!
U overclock it amds own control panel¿
Ive owned an RX 6800 for about 4 months now, and i have no regrets! Its price to performance is actually really good and compared to the 4070 its a beast! I would rather pay 40% less but get almost more fps with incredible frame times.
Pretty darn amazing AMD finewine TM strikes again!
But what really stood out to me is how smooth the frametimes are with the RX6800 with most titles
The 4070 should be at least 16gigs and cost 100 to 150 bucks less. They would be flying off the shelves if that were the case!
but thats way too much to ask from nvidia.
@@JegsTV They really dropped the ball with the 40 series. The 4060 & 4070 could have been great mid range cards but they decided to nerf tf out of them but still expected us to buy that shit? HAHAHAHAHA looks like their plan failed! I'm really starting to think Nvidia doesn't care all that much about gamers. We aren't their main focus most of their profit comes from the business segment. It's like we're an inconvenience to them tbh
@@hamajangz9586 Ha, I would had bought the 4070 if that were to happen!
@@hamajangz9586 I think im still gonna buy the 4070 tho. They're both going for about 500 rn.
It's weird. The rx6800 was meant to rival the 3070. But it's matching the 4070....
AMD cards seem to get significantly better after release do to driver optimization. Very impressive stuff.
If you have the rx 6800xt it could match with rtx 4070 super and rx 6900xt matches with rtx 4070 ti.
@@6kittys147 but the power draw is 1.5 times higher
@@MHF_H Power draw matters way to much when your using laptop . While in desktop it rarely does but even then it still matters. Now if the budget is limited then the best option is for the value to money option rather than premium.
@@MHF_H who care about that shit, youre still living with your parents, dont worry about Power Draw 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A 2 year old RX 6800 is still keeping up with the green teams overpriced offering. Did you know that the 6800 is easily overclockable?
Yep mine can reach 2450 mhz but it generates more heat which then rises to my cpu which makes the cpu overheat
Did you do an undervolt? The rx 6800 is consuming much less than a rx 7700xt. Do you think a 600w gold source can withstand a 5700x3d and a rx 6800?
Those are very normal power consumption figures for a 6800. Mine has been overclocked and undervolted to match the 6800XT and still hovers between 200-230W. I didn't even do anything fancy, just the basic tuning stuff in the Radeon software suite.
yes
Everytime i see 6800 vs 4070 is just like .. a set back for nvidia
?? Msrp is basically the same and 4070 performs better??
@@brendougbake4958 6800 around 470 usd and has 4 extra vram
@@brendougbake4958 6800 = $449 new (also comes with starfield premium), 4070 = $599 new
If $150 difference is "basically the same" then idk what to say except "yeah you're right I guess".
They both cost around 500 and they perform about the same. I currently have a 1660 super and im just gonna stick with Nvidia on this one.
@@natcar360 tf? the 4070 costs about 600$ and the rx 6800 costs 450$
I have the XT version and no plans to upgrade to AM5. I am super underwhelmed by most of the AAA games coming out anyway. I may even upgrade to the 6950XT, if it is possible to get one that hasn't been mined. Also with the big announcement of FSR which will give us huge framerate boosts AMD is the best value card imo. Nvidia are just way to greedy for me to even consider them.
Not a high chance the 6800 was mined with, and it has gddr6 rather than the hot and spicy gddr6x which tends to fail from mining. It's a solid card!
@@charleshorseman55 I'm guessing that's the same for the 6950xt then? as I already have the 6800xt
bro, i will stick to my 6800 xt, there is no need for an upgrade yet. it is an excellent 1080p, 1440p gpu
1% low on rtx 4070 bruh 😭
Man, thx for benchmarks, you are the best! ❤️
I bought RX 6800 and it was the best decision I've made 😁
I was thinking of upgrading my old 2060 to an amd and after watching this video I can see it's a really good choice and it should hold up with latest games🤔
Hey can you give me your 2060?
Got an RX 6800 new on sale for basically half the price of a 4070. Very pleased with it. Wanted to go Nvidia this time, but prices here are just stupid. A 4060 (non-Ti) was the closest in price to the 6800 at the time of purchase. Wild.
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Latest AMD drivers have improved performance by a good margin. Still, it's good to see that the RX 6800 is still holding up. I have a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6800 and it doesn't dissapoint at 1080P/1440P gaming at anything I throw at it although I only game at 60fps.
I recently just bought one upgrading from a 2060 very happy with the performance
Wish u bought the 6800xt but in reality I don’t need the extra power for my needs
@@ljc606 some people even suggest that you can try to overclock basic rx6800 so it can have almost the same MHz and performance as xt version but I haven't tried it yet on my own
wish you did 4k of these too, two gpu that im considering for 4k 60fps gaming
they kinda are 4k 60 fps or 1440p 100 fps +, depends on person who has gpu and what monitor/tv he has, for majority they have 4k 60 hz tvs now, those gpus are cheapest 4k they can get@@Newt00n
only the rx 6800 will survive the 4K game the RTX 4070 will die on VRAM issue
@@KDR107 i actually got almost new 1 month used rx 6800 cheap, so i can tell you that i havent reached 12gb vram usage even at 4k on any game i tested so far :) i thin i maxed at 11gb in last of us. 12gb is completely safe, especially for 1440p gpu or 4k 60 fps too, ifyou need 4k 90-120fps and using rtx yeah u need more vram but thats why rx 7900 xtx and rtx 4090 exists
Was resize bar enabled at all for the 6800?
4070 here cost 716 euro, same as rx 6800 xt, and rx 6800 non xt cost 554 euro, used 6800 xt 480 euro
hard choice 16gv vram will come handy soon, but i cant miss dlss2 and 3, its awesome to play cp2077 and witcher 3 full raytraced with 100 frames
6800 with an oc will match the 4070 in most of these games or just behind it costing a lot less and has more vram. 6800/6800xt the better choice over the 4070 rn.
what is oc?
@@davidvictory9764 overclock, overclockjng the GPU through msi afterburner get more fps out of the card for free
@@xwar_88x30for the lifespan of the card
@@Shahzad12357 doesn't really affect the life span of the card, if the temps are good all over then it's going to last.
Not a good argument though as you can oc any card.
please start benchmarking the High preset as well, much more performance and not too noticeable in terms of quality.
I've had my RX 6800 since 2020 and had thought about getting an RTX 4070 but seeing that frames are so similar in most games, it doesn't seem to be worth it yet. Perhaps next gen of Nvidia I'll have a look into.
Wasn’t that big of a upgrade on the 4060 and 4070 just basically added frame generation which isn’t worth it you can still use fsr framegen in new games coming out
@@Qelynyou can use fsr framegen infact in all games that support dx11 or 12. its a 1 click addin, other than nvidia with its dlss3 implementation tool which requires modding every texture.
for around 50$ difference between 6800 and 6800xt, which should buy? sorry for the newbie question, this is my first time builsing a unit. thanks
RX 6800 solid for 1080p (Unreal Engine 5) like Forspoken, Highest setting, around 60-80fps. Same result with 6800xt for 1440p. I prefer get a GPU that not giving lower than 60fps without upscaling.
@@KeroNinja.Workspace RX 6800 is enough for 1440p gaming for now but it's already starting to fall behind. If you plan on 1440p gaming in the future then the 6800XT is the better choice.
an undervolted rx6800 is wonderful efficient and capable even now. dont leave your rdna 2 card stock fellas undervolt today!
Yeah got my sapphire rx6800 uv + oc
just got an rx 6800 for 380 euros so happy with my purchase
DAAAAMN where'd you find one that cheap?
thats insane i also got mine for only 410$
You can NOT beat AMD's price/performance ratio. Looking to buy an Nvidia card some day.
Just bought a 6800 for $360.
The date is June 2024.
I wonder how many years this card will last me @ 1440p gaming.
I'm getting a used PC 5700x3d , rx6800, 32gb 3600mhz, really nice case, water cooling etc for $925 - I'm hoping to last me many years at 1440p
@@cozza819 sick deal
i have the same specs
RX 6800 [2020] RTX 4070 [2023] Giving years in gap RX 6800 owns it when it comes to price vs performance.
so basically,
4070 trade blows with cheaper 2 almost 3 years old graphic card. That's not impressive from Nvidia.
So the 6800 is almost as fast as the 3080 and 4070? Is it good enough for Diablo 4 and Fortnite on 3440x1440p? I can buy the new Msi Gaming Z Trio 6800 for 499 euro with a free game. I lean towards the 6800 because of it low temps. Powercolor 6800xt Red Dragon is 539 euro, but saw that the 6800xt’s are getting more toasty just like the 6950xt’s.
Bought my 6800 on launch day, amazed how well it has held up.
does amd let u know when to update drivers like nvidia? how is the software and amd environment in general?
@@idkconflict hi there, person who hopped from nvidia (7 years experience) to amd (freshly bought), amd software is first of all much more pleasant to look at and very intuitive, i didnt have any trouble ocing/undervolting my gpu, on the other hand to answer your question, you ll have to check the drivers for updates, unless im missing something.
thank you man, appreciate the time.
@@sirjoesphjoestar8361
so 4070 is 3-5% faster but less future-proof because of less VRAM...
how is it worth more than 20 bucks over the 6800?
cuz ngreedia
if you keep ray tracing off, the 6800 can compete with a 4070 aka 3080. but the reason the latter cards are more expensive is cause they deliver much better RT performance.
Ltracing
And u cant use dlss with them. Got a reference 6800 and its quiet and enough for qhd but i gonna swap to nvidia because of dlss and frame generation and rtx. FSR 3 wont be that good and their low latency plus only useable for rx 7000 cards.
@@d1sc0nnec78 I thought it was available for all AMD cards.
@@d1sc0nnec78bro, fsr. if fsr is a tad too blurry for you go quality or ultra quality, dlss performance is shit too imo. you could also use xess but i would instead use fsr quality+framegen.
You didn't even OC that 6800. I can see it's on stock settings.
everything is on stock bro.
so 4070 gives higher fps in some games but worse frame times overall
Using a 6800 with fluid motion frames is just the best. Im getting close to my 4090 in performance
Even at 1440p max settings, with arguably the fastest gaming CPU, the 4070 can't hit 99% usage in Hogwarts legacy. That's some shitty optimization.
Got 6800 Merc 319 for a 250 bucks, 8 months old.... can't beat that with even open box 4070.,.. yeah new DLSS and fgen but who cares. Raw power is raw power.
I have a 6800 and I play in 1080p so I think I have graphics for a while
For a long time I'll say as it's VRAM will be enough for 1080p for years to come!
It holds it's own in 4k gaming
Fun fact I run 7460x1440p and still can get 100fps ultra depending on the title (6800)
@@Clarissa1986 i develop in vrchat , substance painter,unity engine, i run vr constantly, even the 6600 gave me fantastic performance,the 6800 is just cake.
@@Clarissa1986 feel free to add me if you want any one on one! same name as here, assuming you're over 18 (personal rules)
Literally neck and neck, only reason to go for a 4070 of these two is if you can't live without ray tracing. Price difference, huge gap, performance difference negligible.
exactly.
what ram r u using , ddr5 8gb stick ?? 4*8 !!!
compare costs vs performance :) rtx 4070 have cists like RX 6900 or like best options RX 6800 XT!
This is a 4070 vs rx 6800 raster test. And that's fine, but if you buy a 4070, it's to use all its tech, raster, less power consumption, DLSS, FG. So, it's good to know what the card's brute force is, but that's not the only thing to compare.
personally, i dont like fg, the ray tracing better performance is something to evaluate and if price was the same i'll go for the 4070, but that is not the case, i bought for 400 (tax included) last december the 6800 reference (i also needed the card to be that lenght so i couldnt buy custom models).
How about for thr same price tho? an RX 6800 non XT and 4070 is going for the same price in my country, which one do I get?
@Jay-ur5zw if they cost the same then 4070 is the better option, but not perfectly better. 12GB will age poorly beyond 1080p unless you change your GPU every other year.
they draw almost the same amount of power, FSR, amd also has FG.
no, sorry but no, this is fanboy speech, most ppl care shit about rt, and most ppl still buy nvidia. dlss3 was nice until amd got fsr3 tho, thats a point, but not a 150 usd markup point.
Funny in germany prices for a rtx 4070 are 600€ for the inno3D Twin Oc edition (lowest price) and the rx 6800 swft/qick 319 dont know which is 430€ looking at the 1% lows which is the most important almost in every game they are the same so ye if you really want the raw power go for the rx 6800
the quick sucks tho, there is a reason sapphire 6800´s go for over msrp over here. the qck easily gets 115c vram stock, the pulse not even with 2150 fast timings.
Is an avg.10 fps gain in 4070 favor worth $100+? I don't think so.
No but RTX, Frame generation and DLSS might be.
@@d1sc0nnec78fsr and dlss were kinda on par at quality settings even back then. now amd also has framegen. you would buy for realisticly 15 fps more in rtx titles that really implement it at 1440p.
Sir did you enable smart access memory
yes
The power draw of the 6800 seems to be too low. Does it only show the GPU's consumption?
Power consumption is correct
I couldn't guess they are so close in performance
Just got a used msi gaming x 6800 for $320us in mint condition.
If I think that I managed to buy the Rx 6800 for €370 new, and then selling my old Rx 2060 for €120, I made the best purchase ever with a total cost of €250 :O Wow, what a performance!
I cannot believe that people will pay double the price for the same performance and less vram.
Look at the frametime line of last of us.
Not even just the last of us, the frame pacing on Nvidia has been a joke even on the 3000 series if you look at comparisons in all the games. amd is a lot smoother. I noticed it straight away when I switched from the 1080 to the 6800. Doesn't feel choppy at all compared to Nvidia. It's such a shame people are buying more in to Nvidia and don't know any better.
In my country you can find both of this cards for 759$ (thanks to the goverment wich overtax everything)
My question is, does the 16GB and 256bit makes it better in the long run for the 6800 over the 4070?
were at an era where going for nvidia means you value RT, FG, DLSS3 but pay the premium price. while going with radeon you want the better raster performance, usually higher vram amount, and cheaper price. so it depends on what your needs and wants are.
I want to ask something. I would be happy if you answer. I want to buy rx6800. My CPU model is i7 7700. I want to play 1080p games. I want to play games at the highest quality. I don't want to buy a lower card because I think the power of this card will decrease after 1-2 years. That's why I want to choose a strong card. This card should last me at least 3-4 years. I know my processor is not enough for this card. But if I fix the fps to 60, will there still be a bottleneck problem? What path should I follow? I would really appreciate if you can help.
Get this card and a cheap 1440p monitor, bottlenecking issues fixed. You'll keep the old one to switch to once newer games are too advanced for the 6800 to carry on 1440p.
@@anitaremenarova6662the 7700 will even bottleneck many games in 4k. its a cpu that has below ryzen 2000 performance per core and only 4 cores.
@@tarkitarker0815 If's fine because literally nobody plays in 4k, much less this guy.
@@anitaremenarova6662"nobody plays in 4k" yeah you are 50% right about that. apart from the fact that its a 3080 equivalent and even the 2080 was marketed for 4k gaming. fsr3 works good enough to be within 5% on the fps gain of dlss3 and is available for every dx11+ game out there, the gtx 4070 really doesnt have much points left for it.
i think 12 gb will be standard for next 2 years in graphic cards
hey i wanna ask do you have sam enabled on amd setup?
Sam and resizable bar enabled
@@JegsTV how is thise possible i use the same with lower cpu r7 5700x and i can manage 85-90 high fps and 47-50 low fps
i compare the last of us
Old video. Performance is better compared now.
Are you using sam ?
sam on 6800, and resizable bar on the 4070
6800 is like alot cheaper
well 6750xt is
anyways thats how you place speakers
in my country rx 6800 is like half of the 4070 & 3080 prices
Just bought a new 6800 with starfield for 390. I think I made a good choice
in my country right now - decisions, decisions - 6750 xt (base) - 6800 15% more - 7700 xt 29% more - 7800 xt 53% - lowest 4070 61%
I think I am eyeing that 6800 but not sure - I have a 2060 super and I mildly used the Raytracing, I consider myself somewhat interested, but the value and rock solid performance of that 6800 looks tempting, it is either the 6800 or get a 7800 xt or wait for 4070 to get cheaper
How is a 4070 the same price now?😊
man I really want the av1 encoding and the power/size of the 40xx
but price/performance is so bad...
The cheapest 6800 I can get is 350e, 4070 500e cheapest. I think I'll have to accept fsr instead of dlss, that premium is huge
It's amazing how many love to overlook the microstutters. Mostly caused by the processor. The mighty god 7800x3d.
let me get this straight, your cpu runs at 200 to 300 mhz LESS on the Rx 6800xt's side, which should put the card at a disadvantage. is this deliberate? funnily enough despite that the card beats the 4070 lol
1. The cpu clocks are fluctuating cause im not running PBO. So your claim is false.
2. Deliberate? The CPU does that by itself.
3. The GPU tested on the right side is an RX 6800 non XT.
@@JegsTVmy bad then.
@@Celatra you good mate, just clarifying. Cant have you getting the wrong info.
The 4070 is probably the worst GPU launch I've experienced since I switched to PC gaming
Why? :D It's better in so many ways. AV1 codec, dlss3 (frame generation), better raytracing performance, lower tdp - lower temperatures, better software.. I don't care spending little bit extra money for this. 12GB VRAM is enough for 1080p gaming or 1440p with DLSS.
@@belec5964 4070 is the most expensive **70 card ever and represents the smallest performance increase from the previous generation. Think about this, the 3070 was significantly faster than the 2080 TI, the 2070 was significantly faster than the 1080TI, the 1060 was faster than the 980, the 3080 is faster than the 4070 in all resolutions even with RT enabled. The card also has just 12 gigs of vram, it is enough for 1440p today(it'll be silly buying the 4070 for 1080p), what of next year or 2 years from now? There is a reason the card and the rest of the 40 series cards are selling so badly. The 4090 is the exception because of the huge performance leap it has from the previous generation.
@@mohyari3075 4070 is literally the same performance as 3080 and even slightly better in some cases. 3080 has 320W tdp vs 200w on 4070 and you even even lower it with undevolting and achieve the same performance. Lower temps + dlss 3 (frame generation), av1 codec, better sw overall. Yes, it true that it should have 16gb's VRAM when 4060ti should have it, which is a total nonsense, but I don't regret buying it for $630 because I was using rtx 3050 before.
@@belec5964 by itself the 4070 is a good card and like you said it has a few things going for it, like low temps, lower tdp and dlss 3. Dlss 3 is the only thing making the 40 series card except the 4090 relevant. Performance is what most gamers care about. In every benchmark I've seen, including toms hardware and gamer nexus the 3080 12gigs beats the 4070 even with RT enabled. Yeah in isolation the 4070 looks fantastic but when you take the generation over generation performance improvements into consideration you'll start to see it has really really bad value as $600 card.
BRUH MAAAN THEY LAUNCHED 4060 TI :DDDDDD
If i had seen this sooner i probably would have gotten the 6800 over my 4070
just shows that this is not a 70 series card. should have been the 60ti at best
how much FPS are gained with RTX 4070 with Frame Generation on?
Depends mostly 40-50 more
I picked up an rx6800 gaming x trio for 280 dollars used.. on fb market. biggest steal for a card that will last me the next 5 years or more not gonna lie
If it's used it won't last that long. Still, great bang for the buck.
@@anitaremenarova6662 it was used for 3 months
@@anitaremenarova6662wtf do you even talk about, there are vids from linus tech tips were he bought used mining gtx 480´s and let them run in a WORKSHOP for a full year, not one failed. and they were old as fuck.
@@tarkitarker0815 You still think Linus is credible in 2024? Lmfao
@@anitaremenarova6662not regarding transperancy, but ive mined on a 1070ti for 2 years and its now 6 years old, still doesnt crash or other stuff, mined btc back in the day on a 6950, that thing did last even longer. you really have no clue, high temperature enviourments with bad airflow and cool and heat cycles kill the solder, but not the gpu, not vrm´s, maybe vram. a single gpu mining wont die because it mines....
really happy with my 6800
AMD's fluid motion frames makes the 6800 a no brainer compared to the 4070.
In Germany 6800 Costs 390€ and rtx 4070 550€. Thats 160€ more. I bought mine 6800 today. No need to think about....
anyone can give some insight from which manufacturer i should consider buying 6800?
i looked at Asrock, xfx, powercolor, and couple.of others.
all are good tbh. also consider sapphire from your choices.
@@JegsTV Tnx, i may do that, depending how much it costs. Powercolor is currently the cheapest one 370e, the one with warranty i think is XFX for 400 or 420e.
better buy it now to avail the free copy of starfield while stocks lasts. good luck bro.
@@JegsTV unfortunately those prices are for used HW (so no game with graphic card), not new, new 6800 costs over 70000din that's around 650e in my country, they are complete fuktards with prices for new xDD
At the moment in my country RX 6800 costs 490$ while RTX 4070 costs 690$….
Both cards are amazing , its ultimatly comes down to price . In Germany RX 6800 costs NEW vs NEW . around 200 Euros less if we counting both with decent cooling SAPPHIRE /XFX vs ASUS OR MSI HIGHER MODELS , ( Could be 170 euros if you go for the shitty dual fan MSI VENTUS , which due to temp I would not. ) Considering even this scenario for 170 euros you can get either Ryzen 7600 or 5700X in Germany it makes no sense to get RTX 4070 , for Gaming RX 6800 is the best choice , if you need AV1 encoding can get the new RX 7700XT which will shit on both for about 50 euros more than RX 6800 ,but with less VRAM. The only reason I can see someone getting 4070 is CUDA core based applications , but again for professional applications unironically you are better off with ARC A770 which in blender and other tests shit on RTX 4070 and trades blows with 4070ti ( Thats only in most proffesional applications in gaming it gets shit on even by 3060ti sometimes ) and better spend the 200 dollars extra on better CPU.
7700XT is on par with the 6800 in rasterization, it however has the same issues all 7000 gen AMD cards have so unless you plan on streaming I'd avoid it. If you're european then the 6800 is the ultimate pick, arc a770 costs almost the same as it here but performs much worse.
Overclockers UK, RX 6800 is about 50 pounds more than 4060 TI models. AMD need a better marketing team to compete. £400 right now RX 6800 16GB, would smash the yet released 4060 TI 16GB. Gain market share with the right promotion of possible 4K gaming, content creation, energy efficiency.
yeah bud, thing is, this only works with dumb people. the 4080 is marked as a 4k card, why should the 4060 ti be able to do 4k? why would they canabalize their top earner? the 4060 ti barely beats the 3060 ti. this in the end only will hurt nvidia bc the ppl that were dumb enough to believe this will either buy a 4080 and be pissed off the next years, or go amd or intel alltogether.
even the power consumption is almost the same , going with the 6800 all day , fk dls and fk ray tracing .
i've seen another benchmark that showed 6800 performing a lot worse vs 4070, why is that?
i dunno about what you saw i cant vouch for them, but these are the results on my end. showed all the parts used at the beginning and even showed the settings used per game for transparency.
@@JegsTV ruclips.net/video/C3CmZtQc6To/видео.html&ab_channel=FPSTEST
im talking about this benchmark especifically xD
@@hideonbush96 That's benchmarks for 4K, neither of these cards are meant for 4K so those are worthless results.
@@anitaremenarova6662no, in 4k the 4070 will be WAY WORSE. you realize that upping the resolution will up the vram need? the 4070 has 4 gb less. it prob was a benchmark with dlss framegen on, but not fsr framegen.
@@tarkitarker0815 Yeah, because it's not meant to be used for anything higher than 1440p, at that point you need 16gb minimum.
You had to test 6800 XT version instead or regular 6800..
here ruclips.net/video/OTbO_d_hu2Q/видео.html
Just convinced me to skip this gen and keep my aorus 6800 master. Id assume since it can clear 2.4ghz with an overclock it matchs and beat a 4070 without raytracing
Nvidia absolutely wrecked AMD here 😂
I'm only joking. I'm a big fan of Nvidia cards ( not the price)
But I currently have the msi gaming trio 6800 sat in my ebuyer basket. Just seems really good value for a nice looking card.
i mean if you gonna compare the performance of this 2 cards i would still go with the rx 6800 cuz of the price the rtx 4070 almost double the price of rx 6800
Resolution?
1440p
5-10 % performance gain for double the price ? GTFO nvidia with your op crap
I got a PowerColor Fighter RX6800 for 469€ YEEAAAHHH 🙂 A RTX 4070 is actually much for expensive.
Y'all are lucky, in my country brand new RX6800 costs $500 while brand new RTX 4070 is $800 lol, not even worth it getting Nvidia here since the sellers are bunch of arsehole for hijacking the prices
which is better tho rx6800 or 6800xt
6800xt has better performance
did u had tearing screen?
none so far.
@@JegsTV would 5600 be a lot of diff in fps on 1440p?
nope.
@@JegsTV so on witcher max settings + hairworks it will handle 60+ fps?
was going to get a 4070 super but then i found a steal of a deal for rx6800 for only 300 $!!!!!!!!!!!
How does it happen, that your rx 6800 draws around the same power as rtx 4070? It has tdp of 250w compared to rtx 4070s 200W?
Undervolting. The RX 6800 can be extremely efficient when undervolted while keeping roughly the same performance.
It's supposed to increase the longevity of the card aswell, since it runs cooler.
It doesn't apply for all the AMD cards however, for example the RX 6800 XT isn't that efficient even when undervolted. But you can find out which card has this potential with a quick Reddit search.
@@br0s4ver56not even undervolted, it just automaticly adjusts its voltage curve if the chip is good enough to drive stock boosts with low volts. my silent bios has like 175w powerdraw at 2175mhz, boost bios 2350mhz 200w, i rock 2550 at 260w if i feel funny.
I love my 6800 nvidia is trash new cards DOA never going back too team green
So basically new and shiny and 100 dollars more expensive perform in some games same and in some slightly better than 2 year old card. GPU segment of the PC market is a joke.