so really the car is earned a marginal rating just for the rear passenger... the driver and front seat passenger seem to have all the protection, but now when they test back seat passengers the difference start to notice.
I like that IIHS is very thorough with the crash-tests and ratings. And it always was. My respect. Unlike EURO NCAP, which is literally miserable, with engineers which don't know Newtons's 3rd law.
euro ncap is using the movable trolly system because cars are much smaller in europe. You could have a massive car do well for the occupants in the vehicle, but extremely dangerous for a small hatchback it crashed into. For frontal collisions they also have the full overlap crash test, and that tests the seatbelts and airbags well.
@@nickbien I live in Europe and let me tell you that it is not so. Many cars sold in Europe are sold in the US too, regardless the size. How does the solid wall test the car's strength since IIHS introduced in 1995 the moderate overlap test exactly because the wall test from NHTSA was insufficient? ... Think about it. Also, in every car tested by Euro NCAP with the movable barrier, the car deforms less than it did in the moderate crash-test. In short, Euro NCAP tests are not demanding enough, not in the least, plus that the score rating is based waaay too much on driving aid systems and avoidance, which is also pretty idiotic in itself.
@@legioner9 In europe, speed limits are far lower than they are in the US. Additionally, drivers are better trained to handle speeds on the highway. In euro ncap tests, they are more focused on preventing accidents from happening in the first place (their assistance systems tests are significantly more advanced than what IIHS tests) Additionally, lower speed limits, and generally smaller cars make certain crashes that are often deadly in the US, not as big of a problem in europe.
@@nickbien That's not true. Here in Europe speed limits are 130 and 140 km/h which is 81 and 87 mph on the freeways, or unlimited on some german freeways. Also there are city areas where you are allowed to go 70 km/h or 46 mph, in the city. So speed limits in Europe are clearly a bit higher in Europe than in the US. In the US you are not allowed to exceed 70 and 75 mph in over 2/3rd of the US, and 80 mph in 8 states only, or 40 mph in the city. Also, the assistance systems in cars don't work very good either, because bad crashes happen at speed, on the opposite lane, in corners etc. where the aid systems do absolutely nothing. Any person in his right mind preffers a safe car, structure-wise. That is the most important thing, not lane assist, not autobrake, not even ESP. People myst rely on their own ability to drive. IIHS gives the rating based on structure and airbag performance. So did Euro NCAP too until 2016. Don't tell me that after 2016 suddenly the engineers from Euro NCAP became truly bright by changing the rating systems. They are not bright.
@@legioner9 I dont think that you understand that in the US, nobody follows speed limits. The speed limit could be 55 mph, but many people go 70 mph - 80 mph earn theres little to no traffic. In other places in the county, speed limits are as high as 70 mph, and many people go 90-100 mph on the highway. In Europe however, people generally stick to speed limits strictly. Additionally, roads are usually more well separated, leading to lower death and injury.
Some little girl from Minnesota caused a 3 car accident which we unfortunately were part of in our Q3. Everyone on the road was going about 75mph, including the girl who was merging onto the highway. Our Q3 saved our lives - totaled, but the outside looked like we’d only gotten in a minor fender bender. This little car threw an explorer clear out of the way and kept going straight for so long that the cops didn’t even realize we were part of the accident. I’m grateful to this car and Audi. Say what you want about luxury cars not being safer, but our car was the only one that wasn’t completely shredded by the end of that ordeal.
Same for us :(. We’re hit head on by a reckless driver when we were stopped at a stoplight. He was easily going 45+ We are hurt. Yet not dead. Our q3 was a tank and saved our lives.
These moderate overlaps are so easy yo pass now they should just get rid of it and make the small overlap the standard. Heck. Maybe make a new small overlap test but at higher speed to simulate a highway crash instead of a crash at city speed.
The overall safety for the front passengers is still the Good calcification, but now with the rear passenger it now is marginal but only because of the rear passenger
so really the car is earned a marginal rating just for the rear passenger... the driver and front seat passenger seem to have all the protection, but now when they test back seat passengers the difference start to notice.
I like that IIHS is very thorough with the crash-tests and ratings. And it always was. My respect. Unlike EURO NCAP, which is literally miserable, with engineers which don't know Newtons's 3rd law.
euro ncap is using the movable trolly system because cars are much smaller in europe.
You could have a massive car do well for the occupants in the vehicle, but extremely dangerous for a small hatchback it crashed into.
For frontal collisions they also have the full overlap crash test, and that tests the seatbelts and airbags well.
@@nickbien I live in Europe and let me tell you that it is not so. Many cars sold in Europe are sold in the US too, regardless the size. How does the solid wall test the car's strength since IIHS introduced in 1995 the moderate overlap test exactly because the wall test from NHTSA was insufficient? ... Think about it. Also, in every car tested by Euro NCAP with the movable barrier, the car deforms less than it did in the moderate crash-test. In short, Euro NCAP tests are not demanding enough, not in the least, plus that the score rating is based waaay too much on driving aid systems and avoidance, which is also pretty idiotic in itself.
@@legioner9 In europe, speed limits are far lower than they are in the US. Additionally, drivers are better trained to handle speeds on the highway. In euro ncap tests, they are more focused on preventing accidents from happening in the first place (their assistance systems tests are significantly more advanced than what IIHS tests)
Additionally, lower speed limits, and generally smaller cars make certain crashes that are often deadly in the US, not as big of a problem in europe.
@@nickbien That's not true. Here in Europe speed limits are 130 and 140 km/h which is 81 and 87 mph on the freeways, or unlimited on some german freeways. Also there are city areas where you are allowed to go 70 km/h or 46 mph, in the city. So speed limits in Europe are clearly a bit higher in Europe than in the US. In the US you are not allowed to exceed 70 and 75 mph in over 2/3rd of the US, and 80 mph in 8 states only, or 40 mph in the city. Also, the assistance systems in cars don't work very good either, because bad crashes happen at speed, on the opposite lane, in corners etc. where the aid systems do absolutely nothing. Any person in his right mind preffers a safe car, structure-wise. That is the most important thing, not lane assist, not autobrake, not even ESP. People myst rely on their own ability to drive. IIHS gives the rating based on structure and airbag performance. So did Euro NCAP too until 2016. Don't tell me that after 2016 suddenly the engineers from Euro NCAP became truly bright by changing the rating systems. They are not bright.
@@legioner9 I dont think that you understand that in the US, nobody follows speed limits. The speed limit could be 55 mph, but many people go 70 mph - 80 mph earn theres little to no traffic. In other places in the county, speed limits are as high as 70 mph, and many people go 90-100 mph on the highway.
In Europe however, people generally stick to speed limits strictly. Additionally, roads are usually more well separated, leading to lower death and injury.
Some little girl from Minnesota caused a 3 car accident which we unfortunately were part of in our Q3. Everyone on the road was going about 75mph, including the girl who was merging onto the highway. Our Q3 saved our lives - totaled, but the outside looked like we’d only gotten in a minor fender bender. This little car threw an explorer clear out of the way and kept going straight for so long that the cops didn’t even realize we were part of the accident. I’m grateful to this car and Audi. Say what you want about luxury cars not being safer, but our car was the only one that wasn’t completely shredded by the end of that ordeal.
Same for us :(. We’re hit head on by a reckless driver when we were stopped at a stoplight. He was easily going 45+
We are hurt. Yet not dead. Our q3 was a tank and saved our lives.
These moderate overlaps are so easy yo pass now they should just get rid of it and make the small overlap the standard. Heck. Maybe make a new small overlap test but at higher speed to simulate a highway crash instead of a crash at city speed.
It’s scored marginal.
This is the updated test, harder to pass
Look like the bottom seatbelt broke
That "M" is due to rear seat passenger's seat belt right?
The Q3 earns a poor rear passenger restraints rating, as well as acceptable head/neck score for that dummy, resulting in overall marginal rating.
iihs said that the seatbelt moved too high on the dummy’s waist area which could potentially increase injury
@@nickbien I hadn't noticed it the first time I viewed, but ...wow. It really rides up.
@@inspector4133 yeah, thats why it got penalized
please benz bmw!!!
Already
The luxury thing can't take the hit because of a Marginal affecting it.
I Knew this comment was coming, the fact it is a luxury car doesn’t necessarily mean it’s safer
You can have all your heated seats and your head tablet and your leather seats and your 2 level console but that doesn't mean safety
Audi Q3 is not safer anymore.
The overall safety for the front passengers is still the Good calcification, but now with the rear passenger it now is marginal but only because of the rear passenger
@@MizushimaNaomiz so its not safe for the rear passenger. Stop sugar coating it.