In 35 years working on these cars this is the first time i have ever seen anyone moving the crank by turning the alternator, that belt must be supertight or that engine must be well worn, that was awesome dude, you got a subscribe.
I put a new distributor in my '91 f150 yesterday. No timing light, I've always done it by ear. I always put a twisted paper towel with some oil on it in the threads of #1 because I don't trust my "Bumper." Crank by hand, as soon as it hits TDC on the compression stroke, POP! Out comes the paper towel. You can look down at the balancer and it'll be on the mark. (Assuming it's been installed correctly) You're better at explaining the process than most people out there. They try to make it more difficult than it needs to be. 👍🤘 New sub.
Thank you for the help. It's been a while since I've had to put a 5.0 in an old pick up and I'm a little rusty. I subscribed BTW. I appreciate the videos
This video was great, except for the part where you marked the balancer in the wrong place. That's why it didn't start the first time. The correct timing marks are just to the right of the big groove in the balancer. The groove just indicates where the keyway is. I know this video is old, just figured I would correct it so another 20 people don't follow the wrong instructions.
I remember trying to do this and I had the same issue you had when you turned the engine over to TDC. I didnt understand what was going on and half the time I didnt know what I was doing. I tried to set ignition timing but ended up locking my motor from coolant going into the cylinders. Tore the top end apart, cleaned all my cylinders, doused some Marvel Mystery oil in the cylinders so I can check to see if all pistons hit TDC. Im lucky I didnt damage anything since all pistons hit TDC. Eventually Ill be getting around to putting everything back together and set ignition timing.
Great video, thanks. I just went through similar pain timing up my 302. Turns out that even though it looked like new, the rubber jointing in my Harmonic Balancer was torn so the outer ring with the timing marks was slipping against the inside and the timing marks were moving around all over the place. I put my Harmonic balancer in a vice and could turn the outer part by hand while the inner stayed stationary
my valve stem seals went and head gasket went bad on my 86 so I swapped it for a 90 302. I used my trucks wiring harness and fuel injectors but I can't get it to run at Most I'll get a weak sputter that lasts a few seconds. I replaced the starter, fuel pump altinator, spark plugs, battery, starter solenoid, and plug wires. I even played around a bit with timeing but still no luck any ideas?
Once you set the distributor in the engine are you supposed to be able to turn the cap or rotor button with the distributor with it being locked down at the base? I'm not talking about the frame of the the distributor cause I not understanding what's going on and I have a hei distributor... can anyone help?
hey tatts. on my stang the air filter is flipped an put into the wheel well. where it gets lil bit cooler air. not pointing behind radiator an next the fan my dude. u should reroute it
Thanks! My car had the same problem...a partial groove on the harmonic balancer 180 deg away from TDC. There are small degree increment lines where TDC is. Someone marked mine with a white stripe.
I have a question i just recently replaced my fan and fan clutch i also replaced the thermostat but my 92 gt still overheats and the light of low coolant is on any help or suggestions please would be highly appreciated
You check see if it is lousing fuild, also check make sure yournwster pump is not bad or raidator cap, they two dif pumps for a 302 one spins one way and the other goes the other way, bad or wrong pump cause over heating. You can also check timing and head gasket. A clogged radiator will aslo cause this issue
Ya....could be many things. Depends on the situation of your own engine and cooling system. Before I rebuilt my engine, I had constant cooling problems. Replaced rad twice, had coolant leaks...and always had to watch for overheating. When I pulled apart the engine, I saw that someone had used a stopleak product...and it had clogged a good part of the coolant passages in the engine. A shop had flushed my cooling system many times....after I had to replace the rad and replaced the hvac rad several times. FInally discovered the real problem when I opened up the engine. Now it runs incredibly cool....also with a new extreme duty fan clutch (on a 92 F250).
@@joeidaho5938 what is stopleak product.? i have 5.0 HO and tomorrow мастер будит его перебирать.купил ford thunderbird 1992 motor.кузов 1990.нашел толкового Человека .детали заказываем с U.S.A. ждать 30 дней запчасть.
When you stuck your finger in place of the spark plug, what are we trying to achieve? Is it to feel for the injection of the fuel? Great video by the way.
Just use a piece of string and run it through your pulleys, add a little for your tensioner, tie it off and have your parts store find a belt that matches the length of your string.
@@TattsForLife ok cause my brother has a 351w twin turbo in his foxbody and the car starts and cuts off but rn it wont start cause one of the wirrs from the msd is ripped out the boot
I have a question and thank you for the video. Are there any gas savings from upgrading OEM distributor on a 1990 Lincoln Town car base model Windsor V8 5.0? Which systems would be more beneficial and less mechanically complicated for this goal? I've also heard of coil on plug systems. I'm a new virgin on an old scene and would appreciate any advice you can give TY.
I have an 87 town car. Changing just the distributor on those cars won't give you a lot of benefits in terms of efficiency. The simplest upgrade for efficiency and ease of installation in my opinion is to put a better computer in it. I did that with mine back in the day, but I'm currently in the process of converting the car from efi to carbureted, just to make it a little easier to work on.
@@EricSwanson1 Not sure why you would do that, the EFI in these cars was very efficient and super easy to work on,87 Town car is a tank, dont get me wrong, a very nice and very comfortable car but a tank none the less but if going carb is your thing then go for it, be interesting to see.
I know this is a old comment but i saw you posting something similar on another video, stay away from coil on plugs on these older cars unless you just wanna do it as a experiment, not that there is anything wrong with them but you would be overcomplicating your life,you have a distributor and 8 wires, why have 8 coils?? Town cars are heavy beasts so they will never have good gas mileage, unless you are trying to use it as a daily or as a taxi cab all you can do is keep it properly tuned, oem Ford distributors that came on these 302s are outstanding believe it or not, i have a few that i will not let go, unless you are running a car with 800 horses and you need a custom ignition system a standard distributor will be optimal,stay away from those MSD units, they are awful, keep your fuel filter changed, your tires properly inflated,air filter and spark plugs clean and you'll be real close to the original gas mileage (15 city 22 on highway i believe)
@@dntlss I have a video of it running on my channel. It's a project car and efficiency isn't really the goal. The car sat for 15 years. The wiring got eaten by pack rats and the fuel system was all gummed up with old gas. It was cheaper and simpler to stick an intake, carb, and distributor on it than to buy new injectors and go through all the wiring. I also like the simplicity of tuning a carburetor vs tuning an old injected engine. All I need to tune a carb is a screwdriver. The carb is also a part of a cheap power combo. These 302s were a little choked off from the factory due to emissions regulations and fuel economy goals. I'd rather have a little more power than better fuel economy. Performance EFI setups will make more power than carburetors, but carburetors are cheap for me. A carburetor also won't make a huge difference on its own, but in combination with a few other cheap modifications it works well. The next thing I'm doing is pulling out the AOD transmission and putting in a C6. I might put the AOD back in after I get a kickdown adapter for it and rebuild it.
Do you spike the distributor at Tdc or at 10 degrees with rotor facing number 1? I’m trying to time my 86 f150 and can’t get it right I get it to run and idle good I get into it on a turn or leaving from a stop it’s sluggish.
I have a rebuilt engine I got timing dead on I just did it I wasn’t lining the rotor with number one on cap I was pointing at cylinder thanks for the info. I put a bigger cam in it, machine shop said it was the biggest I could go with efi. It runs good if you drive like grandma just can’t get on it at all. All my sensors, injectors, ignition system every part, fuel pumps fuel regulator are all new. I’m stumped I think I might have to get computer tuned for cam.
You did not Mark the harmonic balancer top dead center properly you need to clean off the harmonic balancer and look for the numbers. That big gap on the harmonic balancer was not top dead center
way I did it puts it TDC and marked it cause as you can see if you watch the video it is not timed right so the way I did it puts it their, you can use this skill on anything with a spinning harmonic balancer or one with out the numbers, the spinning is pretty common when the rubber bushing is bad, as you can see the car started and runs great. cant fix everything by reading a book, but thanks for the comment
My timing light says to start at 0 on the knob, then set it. I tried that and i don't even hear the detonation when I floor it. So if you put the knob at 12 or 14 is that correct timing if you want 12-14 degrees? Great video btw!
If your timing light has a advance knob you put it at the amount of advance you want on the gun. Say ten degrees in the knob. Then by twisting the distributor, you get the 0 degree mark on the balancer to match up with the timing mark on the pointer. This video is for guns without advance knobs I think.
Watched this guy barely able to talk, talking shit about his girl who is helping him like a douche and then proceeds to turn the engine over VIA the alternator bolt vs just pushing the fan or from the crank bolt like a normal person. Keep on trucking Mr. Fudd. Nice intake BTW.
You must really know what you are doing. Because the old saying seems to be proving itself yet again. Those who can do,,,those who can’t teach,,,,and boy can you can’t teach
Imagine not knowing how too time your own motor yet still have the audacity too try bashing the guy whose trying to help you, no wonder why your parents gave up on you.
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In 35 years working on these cars this is the first time i have ever seen anyone moving the crank by turning the alternator, that belt must be supertight or that engine must be well worn, that was awesome dude, you got a subscribe.
Happy you enjoyed the video
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I put a new distributor in my '91 f150 yesterday. No timing light, I've always done it by ear. I always put a twisted paper towel with some oil on it in the threads of #1 because I don't trust my
"Bumper." Crank by hand,
as soon as it hits TDC on the compression stroke, POP! Out comes the paper towel.
You can look down at the balancer and it'll be on the mark.
(Assuming it's been installed correctly)
You're better at explaining the process than most people out there. They try to make it more difficult than it needs to be. 👍🤘
New sub.
Thanks and what a great ideal to use the paper towel trick
Thank you for the help. It's been a while since I've had to put a 5.0 in an old pick up and I'm a little rusty. I subscribed BTW. I appreciate the videos
@@The1SuperAtheist thanks
This video was great, except for the part where you marked the balancer in the wrong place. That's why it didn't start the first time. The correct timing marks are just to the right of the big groove in the balancer. The groove just indicates where the keyway is. I know this video is old, just figured I would correct it so another 20 people don't follow the wrong instructions.
well if you watch fully, you see that my blancer is bad and as spung and made the marks off of where they should of been
I thought the same thing as soon as i saw it. The timing marks are where the cutout spot is
Can you please help me?
Thanks for the help today, buddy! The 'ol Bronco rides again!
Happy to have been helpful
I remember trying to do this and I had the same issue you had when you turned the engine over to TDC. I didnt understand what was going on and half the time I didnt know what I was doing. I tried to set ignition timing but ended up locking my motor from coolant going into the cylinders. Tore the top end apart, cleaned all my cylinders, doused some Marvel Mystery oil in the cylinders so I can check to see if all pistons hit TDC. Im lucky I didnt damage anything since all pistons hit TDC. Eventually Ill be getting around to putting everything back together and set ignition timing.
I’m attempting to do this right now while watching your video.
hope the video is helpful
Great video, thanks. I just went through similar pain timing up my 302. Turns out that even though it looked like new, the rubber jointing in my Harmonic Balancer was torn so the outer ring with the timing marks was slipping against the inside and the timing marks were moving around all over the place. I put my Harmonic balancer in a vice and could turn the outer part by hand while the inner stayed stationary
Nice work!
my valve stem seals went and head gasket went bad on my 86 so I swapped it for a 90 302. I used my trucks wiring harness and fuel injectors but I can't get it to run at Most I'll get a weak sputter that lasts a few seconds. I replaced the starter, fuel pump altinator, spark plugs, battery, starter solenoid, and plug wires. I even played around a bit with timeing but still no luck any ideas?
I'm no expert but arnt 86s speed density it might be a ecu problem u might have to convert it to MAF
You have the most interesting voice. I was watching it and everyone stopped what they where doing to watch it. Lol
Enjoyed video
Thank you
Best video on timing a Ford!! Thank you so much you’re a pro!!!
Your welcome, Thanks for such a great comment
Once you set the distributor in the engine are you supposed to be able to turn the cap or rotor button with the distributor with it being locked down at the base? I'm not talking about the frame of the the distributor cause I not understanding what's going on and I have a hei distributor... can anyone help?
hey tatts. on my stang the air filter is flipped an put into the wheel well. where it gets lil bit cooler air. not pointing behind radiator an next the fan my dude. u should reroute it
I rerouted it with a LS lol
@@TattsForLife I’m following behind ya lol
Thanks bro you really help me out. On this video you sound extra Forrest Gump like .. great video precise and you explain things very well 🤘🤘👍👍
Thanks for watching
What’s the degree of timing we set it too?
Thanks! My car had the same problem...a partial groove on the harmonic balancer 180 deg away from TDC. There are small degree increment lines where TDC is. Someone marked mine with a white stripe.
Glad it helped
I have a question i just recently replaced my fan and fan clutch i also replaced the thermostat but my 92 gt still overheats and the light of low coolant is on any help or suggestions please would be highly appreciated
You check see if it is lousing fuild, also check make sure yournwster pump is not bad or raidator cap, they two dif pumps for a 302 one spins one way and the other goes the other way, bad or wrong pump cause over heating.
You can also check timing and head gasket. A clogged radiator will aslo cause this issue
@@TattsForLife oh ok I'll check all that thank you 👍
Ya....could be many things. Depends on the situation of your own engine and cooling system. Before I rebuilt my engine, I had constant cooling problems. Replaced rad twice, had coolant leaks...and always had to watch for overheating. When I pulled apart the engine, I saw that someone had used a stopleak product...and it had clogged a good part of the coolant passages in the engine. A shop had flushed my cooling system many times....after I had to replace the rad and replaced the hvac rad several times. FInally discovered the real problem when I opened up the engine. Now it runs incredibly cool....also with a new extreme duty fan clutch (on a 92 F250).
@@joeidaho5938 thanks for replying
@@joeidaho5938 what is stopleak product.? i have 5.0 HO and tomorrow мастер будит его перебирать.купил ford thunderbird 1992 motor.кузов 1990.нашел толкового Человека .детали заказываем с U.S.A. ждать 30 дней запчасть.
When you stuck your finger in place of the spark plug, what are we trying to achieve? Is it to feel for the injection of the fuel? Great video by the way.
looking for the compression stroke
@@TattsForLife thank you so much bro
@@Trigger187 welcome
August 18, 2019. Was just educated that a 302 and a HO 302 have different firing orders...FYI, this is firing order for HO
great info
This video put me in a good mood LOL
Thats great lol
Doesn't over heat without fan shourd?
Nope, but I'm in a small town with no bumper to bumper, long as air goes through the radiator ita fine, now if I was I'm NYC I may have a dif tune lol
So did you use the circle as your timing mark or the flat edge closer to the middle of the crank ?
circle if I remember right
You sure you don’t Use the pointer?
Gr8 step-by-step video demo👍🏼, Thanx!
You're welcome!
Thugged out elmer fudd!!!
How about no lol
Lol
LMAO
I'm sure he's heard it all from pricks who lack any form of common decency and respect.
I know it's an older video, but do you know the size of the belt you were running?
I sure dont
I remeasured mine. I think I've got it. Thanks for the reply.
@@Bob-se7fv welcome
Just use a piece of string and run it through your pulleys, add a little for your tensioner, tie it off and have your parts store find a belt that matches the length of your string.
@@Bob-se7fv what size is your belt lol?
JFC WTF did i just stumble upon?! Now I'm stunned 😳 fuggin stunned....
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@@TattsForLife Wabbit season. You're a good sport.
is that a 351w
302, but they do make a 351 with alot in common with a 302
@@TattsForLife ok cause my brother has a 351w twin turbo in his foxbody and the car starts and cuts off but rn it wont start cause one of the wirrs from the msd is ripped out the boot
@@AyyeSmokey sound like a simple fix of solider and wire
Anyone have any idea on a hard cold start 1986. foxbody stock 5.0 once car is warmed up it’ll fire up idk if timing is good or bad fuel pump maybe
clean your mass air flow and check your fuel filter
I have a question and thank you for the video. Are there any gas savings from upgrading OEM distributor on a 1990 Lincoln Town car base model Windsor V8 5.0?
Which systems would be more beneficial and less mechanically complicated for this goal?
I've also heard of coil on plug systems. I'm a new virgin on an old scene and would appreciate any advice you can give TY.
I have an 87 town car. Changing just the distributor on those cars won't give you a lot of benefits in terms of efficiency. The simplest upgrade for efficiency and ease of installation in my opinion is to put a better computer in it. I did that with mine back in the day, but I'm currently in the process of converting the car from efi to carbureted, just to make it a little easier to work on.
@@EricSwanson1 Not sure why you would do that, the EFI in these cars was very efficient and super easy to work on,87 Town car is a tank, dont get me wrong, a very nice and very comfortable car but a tank none the less but if going carb is your thing then go for it, be interesting to see.
I know this is a old comment but i saw you posting something similar on another video, stay away from coil on plugs on these older cars unless you just wanna do it as a experiment, not that there is anything wrong with them but you would be overcomplicating your life,you have a distributor and 8 wires, why have 8 coils??
Town cars are heavy beasts so they will never have good gas mileage, unless you are trying to use it as a daily or as a taxi cab all you can do is keep it properly tuned, oem Ford distributors that came on these 302s are outstanding believe it or not, i have a few that i will not let go, unless you are running a car with 800 horses and you need a custom ignition system a standard distributor will be optimal,stay away from those MSD units, they are awful, keep your fuel filter changed, your tires properly inflated,air filter and spark plugs clean and you'll be real close to the original gas mileage (15 city 22 on highway i believe)
@@dntlss I have a video of it running on my channel. It's a project car and efficiency isn't really the goal. The car sat for 15 years. The wiring got eaten by pack rats and the fuel system was all gummed up with old gas. It was cheaper and simpler to stick an intake, carb, and distributor on it than to buy new injectors and go through all the wiring. I also like the simplicity of tuning a carburetor vs tuning an old injected engine. All I need to tune a carb is a screwdriver. The carb is also a part of a cheap power combo. These 302s were a little choked off from the factory due to emissions regulations and fuel economy goals. I'd rather have a little more power than better fuel economy. Performance EFI setups will make more power than carburetors, but carburetors are cheap for me. A carburetor also won't make a huge difference on its own, but in combination with a few other cheap modifications it works well. The next thing I'm doing is pulling out the AOD transmission and putting in a C6. I might put the AOD back in after I get a kickdown adapter for it and rebuild it.
Do you spike the distributor at Tdc or at 10 degrees with rotor facing number 1? I’m trying to time my 86 f150 and can’t get it right I get it to run and idle good I get into it on a turn or leaving from a stop it’s sluggish.
Sluggish could be from many issues
I have a rebuilt engine I got timing dead on I just did it I wasn’t lining the rotor with number one on cap I was pointing at cylinder thanks for the info. I put a bigger cam in it, machine shop said it was the biggest I could go with efi. It runs good if you drive like grandma just can’t get on it at all. All my sensors, injectors, ignition system every part, fuel pumps fuel regulator are all new. I’m stumped I think I might have to get computer tuned for cam.
How do I put a distributor ignition pickup connector back on
pickup connector?
@@TattsForLife Ford Mustang 94
A 94 stang is fuel injection, should use a coil and crank sensor to make fire, I believe
fuc the haters great video. you did great keep doing the vidoes ive watched 10 vids how to time a 5.0 your was the best
Thank you so much
Thank you for the video, its helpful
Glad to hear that!
Where are you from brother? Definitely a southern fella
ky
This video was pretty helpful
Thanks, happy the video helped
You did not Mark the harmonic balancer top dead center properly you need to clean off the harmonic balancer and look for the numbers. That big gap on the harmonic balancer was not top dead center
way I did it puts it TDC and marked it cause as you can see if you watch the video it is not timed right so the way I did it puts it their, you can use this skill on anything with a spinning harmonic balancer or one with out the numbers, the spinning is pretty common when the rubber bushing is bad, as you can see the car started and runs great. cant fix everything by reading a book, but thanks for the comment
How did you get it to top dead center without the harmonic balancer?
bring the number 1 piston to the top on its compression stroke, then it be at TDC
My timing light says to start at 0 on the knob, then set it. I tried that and i don't even hear the detonation when I floor it. So if you put the knob at 12 or 14 is that correct timing if you want 12-14 degrees? Great video btw!
If your timing light has a advance knob you put it at the amount of advance you want on the gun. Say ten degrees in the knob. Then by twisting the distributor, you get the 0 degree mark on the balancer to match up with the timing mark on the pointer. This video is for guns without advance knobs I think.
explained pretty good
I was useing a mack timing light I set the timing to what I want on the gun, and it reads as 0 at the marker on the engine
Thx , good vido
Thanks for watching
Good video brother thank you!
thank you for watching, happy it helped
What if this dont work tho
Hell yeah man
( HIGH FIVE)
@@TattsForLife thay
I’m doing my mother-in-laws 96 F150 5.0 just nervous about doing the timing tho
got have a since of adventure, dont be nervous
Bump her, "crank, crank, crank, crank, vroooom, VROOOOOM!!!! WHOA I SAID BUMP NOT START IT UP!!!
yep
Good video
thank you
3:53 Was that the wife yelling in the background?
what wife LMAO
Thanks for that woman advice cuz j shole was bout to call the ole lady out here😂😂😂
LOL WELCOME
Boomhauer! )
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What about the total advance?
the computer does total advance
I can't 💀
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HAHA well I be sure toss a few out for you this week sometime :)
Lets gooooooo!!!!!
LOL its on the list lol its a very long list, but its on their
"Women don't make good bumpers". That depends... Front or rear bumpers? In all seriousness, I followed this for my '83 F150 302.
Thanks, and I hope you found the video helpful
Good God... lmfao woah I said bump not start ...
LOL
Cause I didn’t claim to know how to paint nails.
im confused
Well idk why since you said it
Watched this guy barely able to talk, talking shit about his girl who is helping him like a douche and then proceeds to turn the engine over VIA the alternator bolt vs just pushing the fan or from the crank bolt like a normal person. Keep on trucking Mr. Fudd. Nice intake BTW.
You sure that intake manifold is ok??? Lol
The vawve covah uff
😅
hold down brawket
Yep thats what we call it in hills
Lmao!
Well its a Ford LMAO AMEN
fords. gosh
😂
You must really know what you are doing. Because the old saying seems to be proving itself yet again. Those who can do,,,those who can’t teach,,,,and boy can you can’t teach
no thanks, Randy
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Hella Elmer Fudd lol
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Imagine not knowing how too time your own motor yet still have the audacity too try bashing the guy whose trying to help you, no wonder why your parents gave up on you.
Lol
lol
Jesus christ its painful listening to this guy talk