Is Joker 2 Another DC BOMB? (Pre-Sales Look Horrible...)

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  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +120

    Joker 2019 was fine on its own and it didn’t need a sequel.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 15 дней назад +14

      Fully agree

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +11

      💯

    • @IamjustBruh
      @IamjustBruh 15 дней назад +11

      The sequel was cooked the moment it was announced officially

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +9

      The moment it was greenlit, tbh

    • @nweditor875
      @nweditor875 14 дней назад +3

      Concur 100%, the ending was a perfect one shoot movie

  • @EmilyFoxSeaton
    @EmilyFoxSeaton 15 дней назад +55

    The first movie inadvertently brought up serious issues and "said something" about mental health and how horrible we treat people and the rich and the poor. Now the studio / writers want to walk that back and make a movie about nothing / stupidity. No thank you.

    • @windowsVD
      @windowsVD 15 дней назад +16

      The first movie didn't "inadvertently" bring up those issues, it just IS about those issues. The first movie practically spelled out its themes and messages out loud, it's not a subtle movie.

    • @eddiebax1395
      @eddiebax1395 13 дней назад +2

      The first movie just copied everything from 'taxi driver' even the movie's themes. Now that the studio/writers have nothing to steal from for the sequel, that's how the filmmakers end up making a shitty movie. But they decided on a musical?.. really?

  • @MrWaifuTaker
    @MrWaifuTaker 15 дней назад +48

    Joker 2 is the American Psycho 2 to Joker's American Psycho.

    • @Pelicanzzz
      @Pelicanzzz 15 дней назад +10

      You just sent me on a surprising google search. A fake sequel in 2002, and a (possibly) real sequel in 2025.

  • @sammysstopmotionoas2004
    @sammysstopmotionoas2004 15 дней назад +95

    The first Joker was meant to be just a stand alone movie, but because it did so well, they decided to force a sequel out.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +6

      THIS💯💯💯💯

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +10

      Cash grab at its finest

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 15 дней назад +7

      ​@@chasehedges6775 this has been a tactic by Warner Bros since the Donner Superman era
      Its so well know in Hollywood circles that the TV show "Entourage" satirically mocked Warner Bros for it with the lead character in Vincent Chase

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +6

      @@Chuck_EL Yet they made the Mad Max sequels which has been successful

    • @charko4191
      @charko4191 14 дней назад +3

      yup most movies get sequels because of that

  • @PhilRiveraMedia
    @PhilRiveraMedia 15 дней назад +23

    The best part about this movie is that it won't have a 3rd.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 15 дней назад +36

    Inside Out 2 and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice were fantastic sequels

    • @jodi2847
      @jodi2847 15 дней назад +12

      Beetlejuice 2 absolutely blew.

    • @notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
      @notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 14 дней назад +6

      Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was not as good as I had anticipated

    • @art23428
      @art23428 13 дней назад +2

      ​​@@jodi2847it wouldn't be making good money if that were true its crossing a milestone

    • @NineToFiveGamerUC0079
      @NineToFiveGamerUC0079 7 дней назад

      ​@@art23428people voted for the nazi too. Were they good?

  • @paulappleton9666
    @paulappleton9666 15 дней назад +13

    It makes me wonder: how did this movie end up as a musical? Who suggested it? Why were they taken seriously? Was it perhaps a joke? And what exactly was the process that concluded that a musical was indeed the way to go? Much like the Joker himself, this movie seems to defy logic with its choices.

    • @EmilyFoxSeaton
      @EmilyFoxSeaton 15 дней назад +7

      Desire to put lady Gaga in it.

    • @windowsVD
      @windowsVD 15 дней назад +4

      I might be in the minority, but I actually thought turning it into a musical was an interesting idea. The first one didn't really lend itself to a sequel, but it made a billion dollars so a sequel was inevitable regardless if there was enough creative juice to warrant one. In a sea of bland and generic Hollywood sequels and reboots, it at least felt refreshing to see the creatives pitch a radically different approach to a sequel. James Cameron did it with Aliens by switching genres and it totally worked. Obviously Todd Philips ain't prime James Cameron, but I thought the idea of a Joker sequel as a musical was bold and creatively ambitious, at least in terms of potential. We'll have to see how it turns out once the film is released, but the idea of a musical sequel to Joker 2019 at least had some potential to be creative and innovative if done right.

    • @edselgreaves6503
      @edselgreaves6503 15 дней назад

      Apparently it was Joaquin's idea and he told Todd Phillips who loved it so much they went ahead and cast that washed up hasbeen Gaga thinking she would bring the liberal demographic to counter the toxic fanboys who made them a billion and got them an Oscar.

    • @stillgrieves1015
      @stillgrieves1015 14 дней назад +7

      They rely on those TikTok stair dance scenes and want to double it down. Make me wonder about the upcoming M3gan sequel.

    • @THEJefftheKiller
      @THEJefftheKiller 10 дней назад

      Music is actually a crucial part of Arthur Flecks character if you haven't payed attention in the first movie

  • @CT-55555.
    @CT-55555. 15 дней назад +13

    I really don't know who thought joker two should have been a musical lol that was a huge mistake

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 15 дней назад

      There's precedent for it I think. Joker frequently sings songs and "puts on shows," especially when Mark Hamil voices him haha. As a character he loves being in the spotlight and showmanship in general.

    • @Patterner
      @Patterner 15 дней назад

      @@RacingSnails64 because a Singing Clown is even more terrifiying than a 'normal' clown. for interesting values of normal.

  • @JohnHenrysaysHi
    @JohnHenrysaysHi 15 дней назад +11

    Good morning, and "I believe you." (That's a Batman quote from Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns =)

  • @DhanurvedCohen
    @DhanurvedCohen 15 дней назад +20

    Since the 1st joker,critics and esteemed indivituals are afraid of the revolution lead by joker idealizers, but the world got two wars funded by the same esteemed mob, quite strange 🤔🤔

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551 15 дней назад +7

      I think because Heath Ledger's Joker said because it's "all part of the plan".

    • @shashard
      @shashard 14 дней назад

      🫤…dude take your head out your own @$$ . It’s a movie relax

  • @johnwells5414
    @johnwells5414 15 дней назад +6

    The first one was done on a lower budget. This one like four times the original!

  • @The_Foreigner_Belt
    @The_Foreigner_Belt 15 дней назад +36

    Given how successful the first Joker was it's weird how they would follow it up with something as cringy as this. It's like they are making fun of us.

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 15 дней назад +12

      Unplanned sequels rarely ever work. A sequel should be planned from the first movie and because the director/writers actually have more story to tell. Not because the first one made a lot of money

    • @vitreo1363
      @vitreo1363 14 дней назад +2

      @@mightguy3118 Yea, but WB had to save face on their DC franchise's performance.

  • @applejones1697
    @applejones1697 15 дней назад +12

    Love your work Jester

  • @ereini0n
    @ereini0n 15 дней назад +38

    You won't see Nolan making sequels - creative people just write different stories

    • @GB-sh9st
      @GB-sh9st 15 дней назад +29

      He made the dark knight stupid

    • @ereini0n
      @ereini0n 15 дней назад +13

      ​@@GB-sh9st
      That was always meant to be a trilogy, m*r*n

    • @nickgates4259
      @nickgates4259 15 дней назад +12

      He literally made a trilogy of Batman movies

    • @pablocardoso7830
      @pablocardoso7830 15 дней назад +8

      @@nickgates4259 He only made them a trilogy because Warner told him to after Batman Begins proved to be a success (yeah, he teased the Joker at the end, but he didn't know if he would make a sequel back then until the film did alright and the executives asked him to make another one). Heck, he didn't even want to make a third film after Heath Ledger died, which is why the Joker was neither recasted nor mentioned in The Dark Knight Rises.

    • @Hugme778
      @Hugme778 15 дней назад +2

      ​@@ereini0nabsolute chad for keeping your language family friendly

  • @svetlanaandrasova6086
    @svetlanaandrasova6086 14 дней назад +3

    I was out the moment they said it was gonna be a musical

    • @THEJefftheKiller
      @THEJefftheKiller 10 дней назад

      It only last 20+ minutes
      It doesn't take too much focus on the plot

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod 15 дней назад +7

    Many people went to see the first film expecting your typical superhero comic booky film and weren't all that into what we got. Those like myself who did like it have no interest in a musical or yet another Harley Quinn vessel. Spending more money on the sequel seems a fool errand. I don't think it will make anywhere near as much as the first.

  • @Maehedrose
    @Maehedrose 15 дней назад +7

    I need to push back a little - I really enjoyed "Joker" and I love musicals. Calling it a musical didn't bother me, the reviews about how this film talks down to the fans are what ruined it for me.

  • @whybutwhy
    @whybutwhy 13 дней назад +1

    Joker 2019 was a stand-alone piece of art, but greed and lack of creativity made an IP out of it again.

  • @BoSmith7045
    @BoSmith7045 15 дней назад +2

    Even without the music I still would have not wanted this movie. I can't see the point. Maybe if he were somehow able to start a riot and take over part of Arkham I might be interested in it.

  • @BridgetWalker-xu8sw
    @BridgetWalker-xu8sw 15 дней назад +2

    Why did they make it a musical? It could work it's just...a weird follow up for a movie like Joker.🤷‍♀️

  • @Patterner
    @Patterner 15 дней назад +2

    better "good content" than "good setup" (if on has to choose)

  • @WilliamLamont82
    @WilliamLamont82 14 дней назад +3

    October is not July people....Even if Joker 2 opens with $50 Million that would be a near record October opening....Fall movies have smaller openings and longer legs.

  • @ClassicHarleyQuinn
    @ClassicHarleyQuinn 15 дней назад +6

    It's definitely not looking good for the film. It wasn't originally going to get a sequel so I'm not that surprised.

  • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
    @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho 15 дней назад +6

    Shame. If it weren’t for her being an industry crazy, I’d love to see what miss Stephanie Germanotta could do with Harley Quinn…

  • @cynicalthoughts
    @cynicalthoughts 15 дней назад +2

    I was one of those who were not huge fans of the first one, ill watch the 2nd one but my hopes are not high tbh. I know not everyone thinks like me but as i said in another video a Joker without a Batman is a joke without the punchline

  • @TheGuesteMC
    @TheGuesteMC 15 дней назад +1

    I think this movie is going to build on the ambiguity of the ending of the first one. Will the occurrences just be all in Arthur Flecks head , or are they things that actually happened.

  • @ViniciusFigueiredo19
    @ViniciusFigueiredo19 15 дней назад +2

    7:45 I mean... There's Dancer In the Dark if that counts

    • @greenentertainment3428
      @greenentertainment3428 15 дней назад

      Been meaning to watch a Lars von Trier movie

    • @ViniciusFigueiredo19
      @ViniciusFigueiredo19 14 дней назад

      ​@@greenentertainment3428if this Joker sequel really does flop, Dancer it's good to understand how a twisted musical is supposed to look like. Tho if u want to watch his stuff in general, I recommend starting w Breaking The Waves

  • @erroneous6947
    @erroneous6947 13 дней назад +2

    The first movie gave disenfranchised men someone to sympathize with. That could not stand. So this new movie exists simply to subvert the original film and its fans. That’s why it has lady Gaga and is a musical. So the writer can absolve himself of the sin of making an “incel movie”.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 6 дней назад

      @@erroneous6947 incels were stupid to flock to the first film in the first place

  • @afrolund80
    @afrolund80 13 дней назад +1

    I still can't figure out why the 1st one exists. All it did was make me want to watch the better movie that it was trying to be. Taxi Driver and they even put Rober De Niro in it. Like, c'mon man! The director said that he wanted to make a Scorsese inspired movie. He just made a carbon copy of a Scorsese movie. With Phoenix in the lead instead of De Niro. On top of the fact that you were right at the beginning. Who needs a Joker origin story? The mystery is part of what makes him such an effective evil villain. I love how they played with the joker not having an origin story in The Dark Knight. But this guy is totally unoriginal. He just copied off of everyone else's creativity. He took the Joker character from DC and mashed him into a Taxi Driver rip off. How did anyone ever care about these stupid films?

  • @dizasteroid7
    @dizasteroid7 15 дней назад +2

    Folie a doodoo? 🤣🤣

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono 15 дней назад +1

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but has it really been since 2008 with The Dark Knight or even 2012 with The Dark Knight Rises that DC was able to put out a top quality sequel to any of the movies they’ve put out?

  • @tooruoikawa8985
    @tooruoikawa8985 15 дней назад +2

    I’m not going to see a movie that’s partially a musical ? I don’t care for rocky horror picture show or movies like that. Plus, I don’t care for lady Gaga’s acting.

  • @TigressKFP
    @TigressKFP 15 дней назад +1

    I thought it was projected to be 100+ million?

  • @keithmichael112
    @keithmichael112 15 дней назад +3

    Yes

  • @Oliver.Verdant
    @Oliver.Verdant 15 дней назад +1

    Put the sheep in the background of more videos !!

  • @regishel
    @regishel 14 дней назад +1

    The Joker SOLD because certain people tried to Cancel the movie, they were trying to making it seem that people were going to become shooters in the theaters. This was why the Joker at the end of the die, SOLD🤷‍♀️

  • @TheMightyCookieShow
    @TheMightyCookieShow 13 дней назад +1

    Perhaps they misinterpreted their audiences desires here.

  • @allahumaameen
    @allahumaameen 14 дней назад

    I like your videos and I think you have good opinions! Though I have to be honest, I had some hesistency starting this video because only within a few days of Deadpool's release you put out a video spoiling gambit in Deadpool which really made me a bit sour on your vids and of course you weren't the only channel, but I just want to put that out there that maybe you can be a little more patience with videos like that with your Thumbnails as most of us work 9-5 jobs and try to get out to the theaters as fast as we can to watch these before youtube spoils it. Again no disrespect, I still look forward to your content, I just wanted to give some feedback , cheers!

  • @fifa4696
    @fifa4696 15 дней назад

    Finally ordered mad love can’t wait to read it tomr!

  • @VALonYouTube
    @VALonYouTube 15 дней назад +1

    Did anyone ever ask for a musical starring Joaquin Phoenix? Seriously.

  • @Kane.JimLahey.
    @Kane.JimLahey. 12 дней назад

    I have heard that this is the best version of Joker & Harley Quinn in all of media, ever. Here is to hoping this is true an that the movie turns out to be good!

  • @InfinityEightplus
    @InfinityEightplus 15 дней назад +2

    Cool shirt 🟡🦇🟡

  • @JoshuaJacobs83
    @JoshuaJacobs83 13 дней назад +1

    I couldnt finish the first. It was so horrible

  • @dualisticmix
    @dualisticmix 15 дней назад +9

    This movie (if it's good) will be successful due to word of mouth from the 1st week viewing. I'm a major DC fan and looooved the first movie. I had a wtf moment when I heard it was a musical but after thinking how the first one was from Jokers perspective, I'm now excited for the film. I'm just hoping it's not a bad movie. Going back to Furiosa, that movie was not a bad film and I feel it got caught up in the culture war.
    It was bashed for being a girl boss movie so I never saw it in the theatre but bought it digital and LOVED it. It's more Road Warrior than girl boss movie, and did horrible in the theatre. So if a movie has low sales doesn't mean it will be bad or determines it's quality, but here's hoping it's good and in the longrun...if good...is successful. I've been wanting bat-shit crazy Harley and Lady Gaga is looking like the Harley we've been waiting for.

    • @JurassicRod
      @JurassicRod 15 дней назад +2

      It wasn't the culture war that hurt Furiosa. Most audience goers are not hard core movie fans following movie critic youtubers and have no idea about a culture war. People didn't go see Furiosa because no one wanted a Furiosa movie in the first place and are fatigued with female action movies.

    • @dualisticmix
      @dualisticmix 15 дней назад +3

      @JurassicRod Well the fatigued with female action movies is part of the culture war though. Furiosa isn't even about her as much as it's more of the war between Amoron Joe, and the other warlord. That's why I said it wasn't a girl boss movie after watching it. I thought the same before I saw it.

    • @vitreo1363
      @vitreo1363 14 дней назад +1

      "This movie (if it's good) will be successful due to word of mouth from the 1st week viewing. "
      No 💩…

  • @TheHorrorMiserMontyG
    @TheHorrorMiserMontyG 14 дней назад

    I believe interest in this film stared to decline when it was announce that this would be a musical. People who enjoyed the first movie don't believe that a musical fits the narrative of Arthur Fleck. Even if you're going to use that part as a reflection of Arthur and Harley's shared delusion, it still doesn't fit what we saw in the first film.

  • @KaiHouston-m6j
    @KaiHouston-m6j 13 дней назад

    It sounds like they made a movie with the intent of making a bad one. smh

  • @92EEM
    @92EEM 15 дней назад

    I like musicals and I honestly liked the concept. Kinda sad that I'm hearing bad things about it already... it was a strange concept, but imo it could've been good. What a waste.

  • @mightguy3118
    @mightguy3118 15 дней назад +1

    Where's all the people saying this was making $1 billion and outselling Deadpool and wolverine? 🤡

  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706 14 дней назад

    I wonder how much they spent on it.

  • @DilatiOnO
    @DilatiOnO 7 дней назад

    mite b bc pple were expecting mayb batman in 1st 1

  • @shashard
    @shashard 14 дней назад +1

    Unpopular opinion the first movie was a six pack of
    @$$

    • @gonzoyork1908
      @gonzoyork1908 13 дней назад +2

      It was Taxi Driver mix the king of comedy .

  • @idiot_city5444
    @idiot_city5444 15 дней назад +6

    Well, the movie looks horrible

    • @silverloveguns
      @silverloveguns 15 дней назад

      it doesn’t

    • @idiot_city5444
      @idiot_city5444 15 дней назад +1

      @@silverloveguns You're commenting that on this video...? Wow

  • @jakiekuzuguk6966
    @jakiekuzuguk6966 15 дней назад +1

    This must be made for those rich people that watch those stupid opera shows 😂😂😂😂

  • @somarriba333
    @somarriba333 15 дней назад

    I wasn't interested in the first one. I finally watched it once if left theaters and I didn't care for it. Once they announced a sequel as a musical, I REALLY had no interest in it.

  • @therealtijuanaman
    @therealtijuanaman 15 дней назад

    No crossover in fans of Joker and musicals huh? Hello, moi?!

  • @blazingmonolith4323
    @blazingmonolith4323 15 дней назад +4

    James Gunn's Superman is gonna flop, calling it now.

  • @AnonymousAnonposter
    @AnonymousAnonposter 15 дней назад +7

    They were completely unable to understand why the first film was an event, not just a hit.

    • @elhombredelsaco3995
      @elhombredelsaco3995 15 дней назад +2

      Exactly. It impacted cinema. Surely it’s not revolutionary, but it had an impact.

  • @brjoser
    @brjoser 12 дней назад

    I’m tired of the multiverse crap. Studios need to choose only ONE universe and make medias about it. Otherwise it will have 3 multiple Batmen and Jokers and 5 wolverines and 10 Spidermen to focus on. People will lose interest in all of them.

  • @RacingSnails64
    @RacingSnails64 15 дней назад

    Unless my favorite reviewers are all dunking on Joker 2, I'm still gonna go see it to judge it for myself. I thought I wouldn't enjoy the first at all and ended up really loving it. If Arthur and Harley at least have a good dynamic, I think I'll be able to enjoy it.

  • @chunkysaurus785
    @chunkysaurus785 14 дней назад

    W shirt

  • @thevalkyrie8
    @thevalkyrie8 14 дней назад

    They might as well just make films out of the best comics over years then trying to come up with new rubbish ideas

  • @applejones1697
    @applejones1697 15 дней назад +6

    First

  • @WilliamLamont82
    @WilliamLamont82 14 дней назад

    I would argue Arthur Fleck is the original Joker.....He literally became the Joker while Bruce Wayne was 10 😂

  • @Cosmicshambler
    @Cosmicshambler 10 дней назад

    I have zero interest cause it didnt need a sequel and the sequel doesnt look good

  • @WilliamLamont82
    @WilliamLamont82 14 дней назад +1

    Joker 2 is tracking to open with about $70 Million in the US(which is literally a near record opening for October)....These doom and gloom RUclips videos clearly dnt understand Box Office trends 😂

    • @GiriT10939
      @GiriT10939 14 дней назад

      The first one opened to 96m without having gaga in the mix. Let’s not pretend everything’s fine

    • @WilliamLamont82
      @WilliamLamont82 14 дней назад

      @@GiriT10939 yea $96 Million is literally the biggest opening weekend October history and Joker 2 is tracking to open only abt $20 Million less....So the movie might not make as much as the first one but who cares? It will still be successful overall...Sequels rarely do as well as the original.....Just ask Black Panther 2; The Empire Strikes Back; Scream 2; Batman Returns; Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom; Aquaman 2; Venom 2 etc etc.

    • @GiriT10939
      @GiriT10939 14 дней назад

      @@WilliamLamont82 “only” 20 million lol, this should have opened to 100m minimum

    • @WilliamLamont82
      @WilliamLamont82 14 дней назад

      @@GiriT10939 it will likely still be successful overall so who cares? That's my point.

    • @GiriT10939
      @GiriT10939 14 дней назад

      @@WilliamLamont82 anything below 500m will not break even and at a perception level will be seen as “underperforming”

  • @jman3657
    @jman3657 14 дней назад

    DC movies suck just like the Marvel movies. But i love the old DC and Marvel comic books

  • @joseramos-kv4pk
    @joseramos-kv4pk 15 дней назад

    I didn't saw any trailer neither know the fil was released.
    I saw a lot of people talkinmg about borderlands and the crow but this is my first video about the joker 2.

  • @HiteshKumar-up9cs
    @HiteshKumar-up9cs 14 дней назад +1

    when will u stop being mcu fangirl

  • @harleybtasfan90s
    @harleybtasfan90s 15 дней назад

    I understand your feelings way more now and it's understandable. DC just can't get it right and it's annoying at this point

  • @regdexter4014
    @regdexter4014 15 дней назад +4

    hell yeah it’s going to bomb dude’s not the Joker and have you seen the trailer it’s trash what’s good about it and i didn’t like the first one or the Batman

  • @JohnGalt916
    @JohnGalt916 15 дней назад +1

    Almost like making a movie made for men. And making it a musical was a bad idea

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 15 дней назад +2

      Why is Joker only for men? My sister really enjoyed the first one.

  • @backlandlands5793
    @backlandlands5793 15 дней назад +20

    This Joker is NOT the Batman Joker. There's too much of an age difference. Maybe this Joker inspires the Batman Joker later.

    • @Blazer9970
      @Blazer9970 4 дня назад

      But it makes me wonder why make a movie marketed as the origin story of the joker if it isnt even about the real joker🤦🏾. Like whats even the point

    • @backlandlands5793
      @backlandlands5793 4 дня назад

      @@Blazer9970 because it's what the real Joker would do.

  • @Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria
    @Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria 15 дней назад +9

    I liked Joker but it was never about the DC/Batman Joker for me and even no alternate universe version. It was a character study and movie experiment with a marvelous actor using tropes from comics, Taxi Driver, etc. I will not see Joker 2 because I hate almost all musicals. I think this once again is a movie with a too small target group for its very large budget.

  • @someother5512
    @someother5512 15 дней назад +27

    Even if it bombs, I predict a Joker 3.

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 15 дней назад +7

      Todd already said it's not happening and why TF would they force a joker 3 if this forced sequel bombs ☠️ it's just wasting more money

    • @aurahoneydew9607
      @aurahoneydew9607 15 дней назад +4

      From what I heard it's not a Joker 3 but a Har "lee" quinn movie in that universe. Really sets her up to be the Joker of that world.

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 15 дней назад +1

      @@aurahoneydew9607 I'm pretty sure tod Philips is smart enough to know that if this movie flops a solo lady gaga Harley Quinn movie would be an absolute disaster especially at the box office ☠️ after this I think he's done with this universe.

    • @SpeedBoost
      @SpeedBoost 10 дней назад

      Joker 3 will be an animated film, made by the people who made Steven's Universe and it will have a prolonged segment calling the audience "Incels" and it will be scored by Ukulele music.

  • @METAL-ADDICT
    @METAL-ADDICT 15 дней назад +16

    That's how I felt about Batman Caped Crusader. Made me RUN back to the original Animated series. No regrets.

  • @alexforce9
    @alexforce9 15 дней назад +14

    First we got Barbie Quinn, now we get Hobo Quinn, maybe sometime in the future we can get Harley Quinn 😆😆😆😅

  • @harryfleutv666
    @harryfleutv666 15 дней назад +11

    I feel like Terrifier 3 is gonna beat Joker 2 in the box office as the best scary clown movie! 😂🤣

    • @caseyhart4999
      @caseyhart4999 15 дней назад +1

      100% true. My most anticipated movie of the year

    • @windowsVD
      @windowsVD 15 дней назад +1

      A sequel to a movie that only made 15 million worldwide? Not a chance. Terrifier is an exclusively cult franchise. Even if Joker 2 bombs, it's still not cratering to a double digit million dollar box office worldwide.

    • @peterfrost377
      @peterfrost377 15 дней назад +1

      @@windowsVD Terrifier 3 will probably make multiple times it's budget back. Joker 2 seems less likely. That's the difference.

    • @windowsVD
      @windowsVD 15 дней назад

      @@peterfrost377 Sure, but that's not really "beating" it at the box office when it has the advantage of having literally 1% its budget.

    • @peterfrost377
      @peterfrost377 15 дней назад

      @@windowsVD Something making multiple times it's budget back is more important imo. RK: Origins 2012 didn't make alot of money compared to films like Man of steel but still made more than enough with nice reviews from fans. All this led to amazing sequels that eventually gave their lead a great send off.

  • @DoomyRei
    @DoomyRei 13 дней назад +3

    Nobody wanted a musical

  • @anthonyduran7553
    @anthonyduran7553 15 дней назад +3

    Who the hell cares about Joker? Art, the Clown looking to splatter house with his sequel premiering same month. Terrifier 3 has the budget and story in play based on the trailer. Get excited for the necessary installment.

  • @HammerHeart3229
    @HammerHeart3229 15 дней назад +2

    I was fine with the 2019 Joker just being a one and done type deal. When the sequel was announced I was like 'Okay, I'll probably check it out' but when I found out it was a musical any interest I had immediately plummeted. If the word of mouth is good I might see it but as it stands, I'm not interested in seeing this movie!

  • @Chuck_EL
    @Chuck_EL 15 дней назад +3

    Im old enough to remember Warner Bros pulling things like this since the Richard Donner era Superman films
    I'm sure many of you heard the "Parents hated the raunchiness" excuses made both by Columbia/WB when it came to why The Og Ghostbusters, Tim Burton's Batman and the first live action TMNT film
    But this is all a pr stunt, parents DID not care about any socalled adult themes in the films, they still took the kids to these films its why they were successful
    What happened was the companies wanted to "maximize profits" and felt if they went socalled more "kid friendly" theyd make more money off merchandise..this is why they had people pushing this without showing a single family or parents calling these movies out
    And the Ghostbusters film was NOT marketed at kids it was marketed at young college kids and the late Ivan and Harold admitted this several times, kids just gravitated towards it and it became a mega hit
    Sony and Warner Bros have a bad track record with this and have for years and I don't think it will get any better because they'll just bring in the same out of touch suits
    The saving grace is that people aren't falling for the BS anymore

  • @jakiekuzuguk6966
    @jakiekuzuguk6966 15 дней назад +1

    Who the hell thought this was good idea to make our super villian a fukn singer yea we accepted his weird dancing, so what they going to do sing fight in gotham 😅😅😅 dance fight 😂😂😂 other villains getting an song opening with there entrance this us so stupid 😅😅😅

  • @SpeedBoost
    @SpeedBoost 10 дней назад +1

    I hope Joker 2 is the biggest flop in recent history.
    ... as it's a film that was intentionally made to antagonise, mock and repel, it's original audience.

  • @Truekingr6
    @Truekingr6 15 дней назад +1

    They gave it a dumb name. Snd a made it a musical ? Nah nah

  • @afrolund80
    @afrolund80 13 дней назад +1

    2:58 Not only that. They poured 4 times the amount of money into this thing. Than they did the 1st one. The 1st one cost something like 50 mil and the sequel is like 200 mil. How?! The 1st hour takes place in Arkham. The rest is a courtroom drama. Wtf is happening with this movie?

  • @afrolund80
    @afrolund80 13 дней назад +1

    Imagine if instead of naming their famous Joker story "The Killing Joke." DC named the comic something like "Les Miserbales." This is so f-ing stupid!

  • @scottsutton140
    @scottsutton140 13 дней назад +1

    Haven't supported WB since they decided to keep Amber Nd Ezra.

  • @coolwata105
    @coolwata105 13 дней назад +1

    3:44 I just love how The Marvels have set a standard for Flops.
    WAY TO GO BRIE!😅

  • @gonzopatra
    @gonzopatra 2 дня назад +1

    I just don’t think the appetite for a movie like a musical Joker 2 is there.
    It’s only been five years but it feels so much longer down to what those years contained.
    Thing is, the box office may well do well as you have LG fans & curious fans of the first movie etc
    However I don’t think it’s even appropriate - the first film worked alone but barely stood up to a second watch if you had connection or even knowledge of the films it was referencing (i do like it, but very casually).
    Gaga is painful to watch ‘acting’ & I don’t want a Harley Quinn album.
    I just.. don’t.
    Side note I wish Hollywood specifically would just leave a lot of these stories alone for a while - between Gaga and Margot Robbie I feel like they’re attempting to speedrun bland-ifying everybody’s old favourites.
    Edit:
    Apparently people were falling asleep in Joker 2? Ironic.

    • @gonzopatra
      @gonzopatra 2 дня назад +1

      8:09 one more thought!
      Therein lies the issue with using a known character like Joker for things outside canon! A Joker musical makes absolute sense in canon! We HAVE Joker songs!
      However, this one is so removed from that Joker that you can’t suddenly retcon all the character building they didn’t do and hope to appeal to the core fanbase for these characters.
      (Thank you for your takes btw, I felt very much in the minority with my opinions regarding Harley Quinn & various other opinions we align on!)

  • @ValentinG23
    @ValentinG23 12 дней назад

    2 reasons i won’t watch this nonsense of a movie :
    1. lady gaga
    2. it being a fucking musical

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 15 дней назад +5

    The first one making a billion dollars was ridiculous, and I don't expect that to happen again. But I do think the movie will be fine. It's not going to flop.
    It's only September. The only thing I think this says is that pre-sales aren't going to matter as much as they used to.

    • @vineetdesai6396
      @vineetdesai6396 15 дней назад

      I think it'll make 500-600 million.

    • @windowsVD
      @windowsVD 15 дней назад +3

      The movie cost 200 million. It needs to make at least 600 million to be considered a success. If the budget had been half of that, I'd say you'd be right. But the risk of it being a failure is very real this time.

  • @TheMeefive
    @TheMeefive 2 дня назад

    Musicals beling on Broadway, not in empty cinemas.

  • @coolwata105
    @coolwata105 13 дней назад

    WoW.....marketeers having fun with numbers.
    Who Knew?🤔
    They've really mastered the art of Putting Lipstick On A Pig.......then getting you to kiss it.😚

  • @kaysalshaar1
    @kaysalshaar1 13 дней назад

    the dancing is not the problem.. the first joker had great scenes with the joker dancing .. SINGING is the problem. how dumb can that idea be

  • @queenglamazona8789
    @queenglamazona8789 12 дней назад

    DC needs to go back to Movies that follow the Same Storylines as their Comics.
    A Musical like Foley A Doo which is Aimed at Normies just doesn't work.

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 13 дней назад

    Its still crazy we have individual Joker and Batman movies, where they'll likely never meet.

  • @DanielBMaximoff
    @DanielBMaximoff 15 дней назад

    HQ should be with Creeper. The guy would have been the best character to rehabilitate HQ, and he likes it rough. But DC is just another Star Wars and Mortal Kombat. It suffers from creative bankruptcy because it caters to the progressive regime.

  • @nickgates4259
    @nickgates4259 14 дней назад

    You’re talking pre-sales 3 weeks out?

  • @91MoonKnight
    @91MoonKnight 15 дней назад

    I liked the first Joker movie and yeah a sequel isn't necessary but it's clearly the studio wanting a cash grab. People don't like the first Joker movie for not being comic book accurate when Batman 89 isn't even comic book accurate either.

  • @EdgarX007
    @EdgarX007 14 дней назад

    🦭