Ruling party not only silent but also endorsing hate speech: Justice Rohinton Fali Nariman
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- ustice Rohinton Fali Nairman during his key note address on the occasion of inauguration of D.M Harish School of Law on January 14, said that the ruling party is not only silent on hate speech but also endorsing it. Watch the full speech.
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Excellent!!! Every student of history and politics should listen to this
Surprised to see the educated people like him still didn't come out of their colonial mindset. Such kind of people with obsolete thoughts should be thrown out of our system.
Govt is also silent on hate writings in Holy Books of other than Hindu, Jain, Buddhist and Sikh religions.
Now SC has to consider whether hindu hate speech is a reaction to hate speech in the Holy Books ? And which silence is more criminal, hate speech of Books or hate speech of Hindus.
@Humanist Indian ɪɴɪɴɪɴ
so is quran- quran is not a holy book. It's a incoherent translation of Torah added with fantasies of mohammad to sleep with young women and wives of his adopted sons.
@Humanist Indian ɪɴɪɴɪɴ then quran and bible is also not holy book it's just old writing
@Laxmi Kanth yup , Kashmiri hindu pandit Exodus and muphala Hindu genocide in Malappuram is a example
Please search about "muphala Hindu genocide" in which muslim did genocide on hindus , even sardar Vallabhbhai Patel and Ambedkar condemned it
Are u mad?
@Ravitesh Kumar 😂😂
How about SC Judges spending more time in the office to clear backlog of cases instead of interviewing with Media? Our flamboyant CJI is seen attending media functions more, and less in the SC.
He's retired you ignoramus .. at least do some reading
@@Genome689 You need to do some reading dude. Open your eyes and read again. I didn't even once mention his name. I am referring to SC Judges which includes all dumbo.
@@bhai857 oh, so you're remark wasn't on him. And thus wasn't at all related to this video or his statement. So effectively irrelevant.
Cool.
Thanks for clarifying tho.
Bro, I don't agree or disagree with you but I would think twice to comment on SC on public forum. Please don't ruin your career by getting case registered against contempt of court.
@Laxmi Kanth These judges r not angels from another planet lol. Do u think they're infallible? Common People r more affected by delayed justice than govts policies. So people should protest against courts.
It's time for judicial reforms.... Collegium system is corrupt.
Sir had you slept when Thousands of Kashmiri Hindu pandit were banished off from Kashmir in the name of religion ?
An Enlightening History of Law well explained. Thanks to 'The Print'.
Respect to you, Sir. 🙏🏻
(I am joining the print)
There is rule of law applicable to the coloniser which was quite different to that applicable to the colonised. Perhaps the speaker should read "India that is Bharat" by Sai Deepak. Coloniality at its heights!
brother Sai Deepak is student of him
Ignore the idiots in comment section questioning why he spoke of European history and not Indian history, he was explaining the roots of these laws, from where they originated not about any particular countries history. Very informative lecture.
akilles SUNDAAAS yaadvv
@@amithgh5428 Name calling someone based on their case/surname...real mature...your other comments from your history shows your mental age...grow up...but sincerely thankyou for creating more engagement on these videos by commenting on them...btw are you Trad or Raita...my bet is on you being a Trad...right????
Instead of wasting his time on lecturing about hate speech he should concentrate on reducing the huge backlog of pending cases.
@@smilinghanuman6785 When the govt will bring reforms, these judges will cry about political power overreach. lol
@@smilinghanuman6785 who appoint the judges, feku? What stone are you living under? It’s the president! Feku should also become the president then, nahi? Bangali buddhi laga le bhai thoda.
@@smilinghanuman6785 you mean legislative power, he does have constitutional power. Perhaps go back to your civics classes designed by esteemed panel of NCERT.
Thankfully these kind of lectures and knowledge sharing to a wide mass now days due to these digital platform.
The Papal bulls, Magna Carta might have affected India in the past and certainly needed to be studied as history. But doesn’t mean ‘ghanta’ to Indians today. Most Indians are making strides into the future on their own terms. But some people are happy to be adjacent to their colonizers.
Entire Indian law system is one giant combination of colonial hangover and Stockholm syndrome. But what to do we illiterate commoners know in front of the milords
Not most, few Indians are making strides. Too many are suffering, deprived off law and order. And supporting rule of law is not equal to being adjacent to the colonizers.
Why single out ruling party ?? As far as we can see, all political parties, national and regional, are supporting religious bigotry and supporting people who are active in creating communal hatred.
Yes. But they are the ones in power at the moment.
@@jackhoward5822 it's not a sole monopoly of the Govt. The courts are a co equal responsibility to maintain law and order and keep Govt. excessive use of it's power in check. So what's the courts doing about CM of Maharashtra from using UAPA on a bunch of late teenagers for calling him penguin? Nothing but adjourn that case ad nauseum. What's the courts doing about the backlog? Nothing. What's the courts doing with laws passed by the Legislative Assemblies that enable arbitrary arrests for "anti national" activities? Nothing, apparently it's not their job to uphold fundamental rights.
Did you just listen to the whole lecture and the first thing that came to your mind was "let's defend the ruling party"?
Justice Nariman delivers a 45-minute lecture on the “rule of law’” starting from 1066 AD in England. And you guys at Print could come up with this header and nothing more. Shame on you for 1) the bad judgment and 2) For calling yourself un-hyphenated.
Exactly. SG kha ho aap?
The Print is not running coaching classes for law students , they are doing journalism by showing the viewpoint of supreme court judge on present scenario.
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Thank you so much for such an insightful talk on fundamental rights.....
Excellent discourse and learnt a lot
Very well explained.
Justice Gogoi and bobde were a black spot in the history of the office of justice.
Because their judgment doesn't suits your narrative, justice chandrachud will be worst among all the judges
All politics before elections . Hate speeches dharam sansad all planted by opposition as elections approaching. Arrests have been made. Please use brains we have sent vaccines in afghanistan, Modi has won so many awards in Muslim OIC countries. Why would he want this to happen to Muslims in his own country? Election time fake bhagwas maligning India image
@@dinks_k1633 hate speech was also done by maulanas but judiciary doesn't bats eye on them .
Not a word on recent hate speeches of Taukir raza n so many others by so honourable judges n liberals ..... we were sleeping but not now .
Whataboutry ki race ho rahi kya xhutiye ?
@@beespls ji xhutiye ji
@Madhuri Yadav power of voting with us . Vote them out. Will have to work together to achieve something
So you're an IDIOT
@@Manian0592 ya but much less than your think
In the 90s, one of my classmates became a Politician (name not revealed). I was for a moment excited. I asked him can I also join your party? Do you think I might have a future in Politics?
My friend replied, “Put away all your Lawbooks in the Godown, especially the Bulky Book on the Constitutional Law first”.
Yesterday I packed up my books on the constitutional law and other legal books on the fundamental rights into a big cardboard box. I don’t know when I’ll get the opportunity to open them again 😥
Very inspiring and educational, we need more such lectures...
Hh7
I know he hasnt listened to Tauqir Raza's hate speech.
hate speech is hate speech irrespective of who is saying it.
@@adarshkumar-ln1hm From when
But ignore one and amplify the other so that narrative can be set.
Classic example of hate against idealogy, he himself has biase, I suspect Hiw he would have judged cases without biased. While commenting on current government he conveniently forgets kashmiri pandits, Sikhs, brahnins, digvijaysingh, salman khueshid.
@@smilinghanuman6785 Name two such orders, please.
@@smilinghanuman6785 triple talaq didn’t pass when congress was serving, was it? Still waiting…
Where was the Hon'ble Justice when Owaisi's younger brother publicly announced if the Police in India were removed for 15 minutes they would finish off all the Hindus? That wonderful speech was not even reported in the media for 11 full days.
This Justice Nariman’s insightful legal advice should serve as a wake-up call to all those who believe in majoritarianism. Every citizen has same legal rights as as any other citizen, regardless of caste, faith or sect.
Should India now have uniform civil law for all religions?
Agreed so why minority institutions WAKF boards, Sikh boards , Muslim personal law and why different rules for different communities.
There have been many unworthy occupants of the office of Supreme Court judge. Rohinton Nariman was one of those.
A judge who can seemingly only cite English history and principles, can he even view Indian society as a distinct society/civilisation in its own right?! Or would he only seek to standardise and uniform-ize the society as a mirror reflection of the invader's society? Is Europefacing no problem of civilizational clashes in this day and age, for us to justify following it wholesale while relinquishing our free thinking?...An honest pondering.
yes u r free to repeat the same historical mistakes made by other civilizations.. a total waste of education
@@dogaredeemer2711 Apparently you can't make sense of a nuanced point. Education hasn't been all that effective, after all, when it comes to folks like yourself;
Cheers!
@@pranavaero dont equate your bhagwa brainwashing to education. Its only obvious when a judge is narrating abt english history of jurisprudence which obviously has had influence in our own legal system. it doesnt mean he is unaware of other civilizations.... one need education yo understand the rationale behind the commentary.. r u a Baaman seeking Hindu rashtra? because that is history of indian system - feudal
@@dogaredeemer2711 You have to understand that most sane and logical people would take a feudal hindu rashtra (which is naturally pluralistic, unlike the Abrahamic rashtra) to a rashtra run by the Islamo-left nexus any day. This is a very long term view taking into account the future generations and decades in the future unlike the myopic left leaning, self proclaimed liberals who have proven an absolute disaster in the west. The so called liberals are fit only to label other people and themselves. They suffer from a superiority complex and are condescending as a consequence.
@@dogaredeemer2711 Bhai/behan, I don't know what is your obsession with a colour I did not talk about and cannot relate to. But my point was k tujhe point samajh nahi aaya. Isliye dobara parh leta ya muh band rehne deta. Par nahi, apni bigotry to failani hi hai nahi to khud ko convince kaise karega k tu "intellectual" hai?!...Tu tu kar>
I only questioned wholesale copying which seemingly ignores the need to recognise space-and-age differences of our society. How can a judge not have ANY indigenous, first-principle thinking paradigm in order to justify his idea of a just society? And, isn't it dangerous if such a thinking is not mainstream among judges..? I agree that rule of law etc have been taken from English jurisprudence and must be retained...
He have to talk about muslim hate speech about hindus as well
Simply Brilliant!!
Another dog of western dogma. Or in a more Local language it's a "Child of Macaulay".
Well said.Modern cronology of indian constitution and goverments wrong doings.
So for him making fun of hindu gods is OK
you are allowed to make fun of anything under the constitution so yes
No you can't, this isn't france. Hate speech of any kind, and even truth that is too bitter for certain communities get suppressed
Thanks God we have alternative media who show pain of majority ...not blindedflod by secularism and liberalism.. educated intellectual shouldn't be measured in term righteous ways of person holding post 👍
Very well explained the history of fundamentals rights of world history and current situation. Gracias. 🙏 🙏
Blinded buy western idea of law
Is he from India or England? For how long will Indians be colonized?
Brilliant and loved it.
I wonder if these are truly judges in an ‘Indian’ court or some ‘Court of Inquisition’ where they prosecute the heathens who have gone back to their previous ways of living forgetting what their European masters have taught them.
Looks like Indian subcontinent has now moved to Europe.
Very well spoken. Reminded me of Prof. Michael Sandel who speaks on judicial philosophy.
This seemingly brilliant man is not committed to the cause of India . Rule of law is the means not an end.
Excellent And Enriching informative lecture. Thank you very much Sir
S0 enlightening ❤
What happens if the executive refuses to obey the court orders? Courts have no recourse.
Where is freedom of expression in this country now? Why can't one speak out his truth out? Why voices be muted now?
Nariman forgets that we Bharatiyas don't need lectures from him about Henry who or anything else. We have our own civilization and democracy. The kind of democracy he craves can be found in Iran where his ancestors came from. I bet they are willing to lend their listening ears.
So you'll turn on every minority eventually as soon as they oppose your narrow sectarian vision of India. Nice that you can say the quiet part out loud. 👏👏
@@usazar Ah, given how they are repaying us back in return for our benevolence, a fitting reply is obviously in order. It's not about minority,, it's about riding the high horse of morality and preaching it to "lesser people". We aren't taking sht from anyone, whether its nariman or chandrachud, a brahmin. Supremacy isn't something that goes down with me personally, and this grumpy grandad isn't having it either. Whether you see this from your distorted lens of "minority oppression" or any other lens that is comprehensible to your puny worm brain, suit yourself.
You idiot completely missed the point of his whole lecture. Andh bhakts andhe hi rahenge.
@Humanist Indian ɪɴɪɴɪɴ
Of course not. Pandering to those who pander to the morals of the west and then like to think of themselves as higher beings might be your tribe, mine isn't. Mine is quite tribalistic and I am quite unapologetic about it. People like nariman and chandrachud get to sit in AC rooms and deliver verdicts with their fancy pens, while the sweaty palms of my people toil away in fields, in factories and feed people like you with your greed. Don't lecture us who we follow and who we idolize and idealize. You have no idea how our life is from the comfort of your moral high horse. We know how to get things right and what things are right for us. Your standard, regardless of whether you see it higher than ours, is not what we need or want or deserve. Keep your white apologia to yourself and let us handle our affairs the way we want. You won't like the day when we lecture you on how to run your own house, will you? What makes you think you or nariman or whoever else gets to decide how we run our own homes? Bharat is our home and we can duly take care of it without western morals.
How many rapes happened after Yati's statement? How many Kamlesh Tiwari has been killed after 'sar tan se juda' bounty was announced from mosques? Do you see your hypocrisy, soyboy?
@@parshowjyotiphukan8445 *yawn* 🥱
Respected Sir,
Having great respect to your contention of hate speech I would only add that when Congress leader Alagiri calls for annihilation of Santan Dharma why people like you are silent?
So you mean to counter hate speech is hate speech.You are playing into the hands of BJP if u internalize it this way.On most of the socio economic parameter India is doing worse (even before pandemic),first the BJP spewd hatred against Muslims then Christians, now Sikh as well ,because they know they can't fight on actual issues ,thats why they sow discord among different communities to garner votes, and intrestingly who used this tactics "British". Open your eyes.
Good knowledge.. Hate speech has no place in country like India, which by the way in East to wast South to North is ruled by no one ideology or way of life for centurys.
Congress rate of growth and Olympic wins poor
How much Chief justice is aware of Indian culture is the question here ... Why do we start at magna carta..is the question And ignore our own ancient treatises blatantly is question.
Fancy lecture though..rootless.
An extremely lucid address which succinctly explains the significance of the key words of the preamble of our great Constitution adopted i n 1950, namely Sovereign, Democratic and Republic. All speakers who will have an opportunity to address our younger generation on the Republic Day must make it a point to highlight this aspect of our proud Constitution.
Ironically this half boiled egg rejected wasim rizvi petition of removing problematic verses, and imposed fine on him
I'm using that insult from now on
Thanks!
We follow Cooperative Feudalism. Modern interventions work in modern nation states, feudal interventions are needed in feudal states.
Sanghis getting Burned bcoz he said against them.
How could one justify conquerers comments? They imposed their rule not DEMOCRACY.
Oh your lordship are you talking about India? Then talk about Indian history. British history like magna carta is not the shared history of India.
The modern idea of India in this decade under this regime is based on Kautilya, not magna carta. Your old world og mcaulay is dying away. You are being pushed aside into the edges of the social discourse, as you rightly should be.
The judge appears to know lot of history. He may also recall, followers of which religion of "peace" , have driven his forefathers from Persia.
from where did your fore fathers came from, did the "god" directly sent them, know your own history u dummy.
Really misleading title to the otherwise great and educational video. The bad part is it reflects more about the viewers like myself than the people at The Print, who I assume would follow the data to catch more attention to such videos. Cheers.
Judiciary needs to focus on delivery rather then play political games. Average case in India drags on for 20 to 30 years. First sort out your house please.
You increase the number of judges, cases will be quickly solved
@@seenvilla2731 Or you make them more efficient. No point in cancelling 90 percent of the hearings a week before the date and twiddling your thumbs on the day. No need for qualified judges for minor offences, people can be trained to deal with this very quickly and in a civil case let the loser pay the costs of all the delays so that people settle disputes quickly rather then drag on knowing fully well they will lose. Justice delayed is justice denied. No case should take more then 2 years.
@@tkbagga i think you watch a lot of movies and dont know how court works
I am familiar with courts in UK and this is how they work. If you leave the lawyers to decide they will never solve it as people in the club are making more money with present system. Most of western countries have similar systems so yes some increase in number of judges is fine but property tenancy dispute running for 20 years? There has to be better way of solving the problems. Judiciary is the weakest piller in Indian democracy.
J is missing in Justice!
Ethnical characters. Rooted from..... Everybody knows.
One of the finest from The Print but I'm really saddened to see the title used here. Title does not do justice at all to the authentic and insightful content this video has. I wish the print to re-evaluate and change the title to be in line with their moto - Unhyphenated Journalism.
Milard what's your view on Montesquieu secularism and the sham pseudo secularism we practice and woke milards protect fundamentalists at the expense of the innocent law abiding Hindu community
While i gained by the lecture...
The judge would have done a great service had he talked about how probably the most powerful Judiciary in the world is so fckd up with 4 crore pending cases...
First ask the government why they are not recruiting more Judes through Judicial Service. Judges can only promote junior judges while government recruits them. Blame the shitty government who are failing to increase vacancy
To criticise the govt on its policies backed with solid research and data is one thing which can be treated as freedom of speech and expression BUT when you become a paid puppet in the hands of international conspirators and what you say can put the democratically elected govt at harm, then it's not a fundamental right... FRs are not there to be misused or manipulated for some ulterior motives to disrepute the country, it's countrymen and the elected govt
Fali Nariman and His Son Rohinton Nariman corrupt to the core. Judicial system continues to suffer
I stopped hearing the min he started talking about UK
*Undoubtedly*
May I put forward a humble question, My Lord? When your forefathers were kicked out of Persia by the Arabs thirteen hundred years ago, what did they do? They "got into boats and sailed to India!"
Please read Bapsi Sidhwa's Ice-Candy-Man.
Barking for gold biscuits, have you ever made a appeal for uniform civil code we don't need commandments to follow we have to follow only constitutional amendments
Confrontational activities threats to sovereignty of India lessened strength of democracy caused 5crore cases backlog and 17-18 lakh people under trial prisoners enfringement of rights of people
The book that is being quoted must be a written by a paid historian to clean the image of Babur... Read Baburnama... Which is the authentic record of babur
Did I hear somewhere that action speaks more than words and is more harmful? Just asking.
Now right minded people are fighting bjp
All hate speech irrespective of religion are given for political reasons and we being idiots instead of discarding them start supporting them becoz of the other side.
कीचड़ को कीचड़ से साफ करा नही जाता। इतनी सी बात समझना लोगो को नही आता।
SC is also currupted...judges are just nautankibaaj...Single bench, Double bench (Allahabad and Lucknow), Divisional bench (direction by sc ) including 6 judges same decission on a matter is just cancel by a single sc judge and ignoring all facts and figures...shame on sc, same on bjp pro so called judge...
Blah blah blah..i prefer nationalist party than anti-national..
He is a _pucca Brown Sahib_ , no?
A most amazing genius!
I think national security is paramount given the forces ,that is at work,both in the issues of border and threat to our vedic civilization. Drug menace and khalistani movement is case at point. So strategy of quick action to safe guard national interest is what good strategy asks for though it might look like religious intolerance though it is not so. And foreign media is having rich dividends on this wrong narrative. Young generation of india is smart enough to figure out the reality and that is why no unrest in the country is noticed inspite of all Modi bashing.
Sad you seem to have started believing in khalistan movement story planted by the Govt of the day.. its a imaginary demon n.not a reality at all. The sikhs can be seen friendly n hugging with Pakistanis during visit to pak for religious visits,doesn't make then anti india. Generally they have big heart to forgive n move on in life after battering taken from Muslims in 1947 n Hindus in 1984..don't worry, even concept of khalistan is abhorred n hated by overwhelming majority of sikhs..relax n stay patriotic n don't be a jingoist..thank you for reading n have great weekend..
now I really want to know how many disliked the video :P
Must have been absolute torture for print correspondent.
Narsinghanand, tyagi are arrested and tauqeer Raza roams free.....yet we are bigots,hindutvawadis, sanghis,hate mongers,communal, majoritarian etc.....such naked double standards made me despise the word "secular "
😁Andhbhakton ki g& jali😆
Nariman
You were silent of Kashmir Genocide in 90`s
Sikh killing of 84
Elites,
If Western Policies are superior then act like them,
West doesn't have Legal system Where 150 Families
Have 99% of Jidges in 1 Billion Poppulation
This guy should be exported to UK..this guy does not have any right to stay in this country….is he saying ..no Indian king did not do justice ? this is bullhsit..I am scared this guy was justice…..
Chup rhe kitte
Why people comment in other language….? I cannot understand
32:30
Thank me later
Zoroastrian hahahhahaha
It is nothing new..
Seems like he did not get promotion or plum post as desired.