Its kinda funny because Hollywood has ruined hade's image because in greek mythology he is not evil more like neutral if a demigod ask for help he will help bro just want to be left alone for example Hercules went to the underworld and ask for Cerberus and all hade's ask him to do is bring back unharmed 😂
Well they regularly describe him not as hades but as “the one with power below” and they say he is “most hated amongst mortals”, but not because he is a bad god, but because he represents death. I’m Euripides’ Hecuba I actually argue that hades is the only godly presence which we can feel and he brings justice. Also in the book, he explains that he doesn’t want war because that just means more dead people and the underworld is already overcrowded. Anyway hades is never bad, the dead is just his domain and that’s the only reason he gets a bad rep.
The story happens as it is in the book, after percy goes to the underworld, the master bolt emerges from his bag, hades is not really a villain, how Ares deceived them, percy decides to leave his mother with hades, not only Zeus's master bolt ,The fact that Hades' helm of darkness is also missing, all this happened as per the book, the movie went wrong there, Hades was never the villain, he was just a victim.
The author had virtually no say in the movies. When they send him the script he wrote back a lengthy e-mail absolutely ROASTING it and telling them if they go through with it, it will be a disaster (you can find that e-mail online btw, it's glorious). They completely ignored him lol.
I was so impressed with how the writing in this episode connected together thematically. First there's Procrustes' line: "Fitting's not easy for guys like us, am I right? Our parents make it so hard. Stretching us, and twisting us and hacking off pieces to make us seem more like them." Then Sally's: "I want him to know who he is before your family tries to tell him who they want him to be." Then there's Poseidon's agreement to respect Sally's wishes and not to force a sense of identity or purpose onto his son until Percy already knew who he was. Both Sally's and Poseidon's responses to the situation were the direct opposite of Procrustes' line from the beginning. They let Percy come into his own and develop a character capable of making the right choices himself instead of forcing him to "fit" into a mold of what they (or the gods) wanted. This show has been doing a lot to drive home the generational trauma theme/criticize toxic parenting behavior (like how Athena treated Annabeth in episode 4) but this and the chair scene in episode 5 knocked it out of the park for me.
Hades in Greek mythology has almost always shown positively or atleast neutral. He has the least amount of demigod children. Usually keeps to himself. The negative 'devil' connotation is mainly a Christian outlook/ probably Disney's Hercules. It's actually pretty interesting how many cultures do not view 'hell' or underworld negatively so you were a little off the mark there. But it's a great introduction to the concept!
Also because “hell” isn’t a thing in Greek mythology! It’s just the realm of the dead, with different parts within it. Hades isn’t the person who rules over bad people like the devil, he’s just the bloke who deals with all the dead, the good and the bad.
I love this portrayal of Hades! And i love this episode. I can't comment any more on the episode or my feelings about the movie without spoilers. My favorite depiction of death is in the Discworld books. He's got a job to do, he talks in all caps in the books, and he takes an interest in humans. Also, he has a badass granddaughter named Susan. I recommend watching the 2006 Hogfather BBC mini series. Hogfather is the Discworld version of Santa Claus.
The only complaint I had with the episode was that they didn’t include the joke about them trying to fool death. It’s more of a nitpick tbf. What a great episode
i was upset about the whole crusty scene. they've cut out a lot of the side quest suspense and obliviousness that the books had. knowing about medusa could be believable but where the heck did the crusty life history come from????
19:10 I hear what the man with the Diamond Mind was saying, but a little bit of clarity. Hades wasn't punished. He was cheated. The 3 brothers gambled to see who got what domain. Hades is the oldest and gets the least respect. Also the Underworld and Hades are tainted by Christian perception. Hades isn't evil, he just is. The Underworld includes not just Tartarus(hell) but Asphodel (purgatory) and the Elysium Fields (heaven). Because of the collective fear we have of death, any overseer of it is considered evil. Death is a force of nature, it isn't inherently evil or good. Arguably it's the most powerful because no one can fight it. Hades is always seen as the devil, I say all that to say, give my goth homies their flowers. Shout out to Hades, Shiva, Oya, Anubis, Osiris
I think that the show is trying to still be more similar to the books than anything, but Rick has used the show as a opportunity to change some things that he always felt he wanted to change and stuff like that. Anyways the way I see it at least is that it’s supposed to be telling the same story as the books and is trying to make you feel nostalgic for the books, but also kind of doing whatever they want with the show and have fun little changes so that it’s not just like copy and pasted from the book.
It's 95% faithful to the book... (5% changes are cosmetic or for the better by the author) The books' fans are happy. :) Maybe the films'fans are unhappy with it.
@@agrimmeon9308the lotus casino scene is 3 pages in the book. about 80% of those 3 pages is percy’s inner monologue. the only plot that happens is that they nap, shower, and then play video games for a bit before percy realizes that there are people from different decades playing too, and he makes them leave. how do you think they would have translated that directly to the screen without it being boring as fuck with a bunch of voiceover? it’s absolutely a faithful adaptation. (ADAPTATION being the key word). obviously it’s not the same, but it’s not meant to be the same. if you want an exact replica of the book, read the book. adaptations are never exact because there are certain things you can do in books that you cant do in film. they’re taking all the important and relevant story beats but changing them slightly so they better serve the tv medium, as well as the narrative as a whole.
@@agrimmeon9308the show is more serious because you dont have the same kind of levity that comes within percy’s inner monologue. the events that happen throughout the book series are really quite serious and dark, but percy copes with them with humor and sarcasm, thus making it more manageable for both him as a child experiencing all this violence, and as the reader experiencing it via his less serious lense. it’s kind of hard to make the sight of a bunch of 12 year olds fighting monsters and sacrificing their lives “not serious” and “lighthearted” when you don’t have the perspective of a child trying to make the best of a horrible situation.
@@amelooloo And it's multiple minutes long on the show so whats your point? Easy. Have the trio go into the casino, get distracted like they do in the books AND movie, and then slowly realize that they are being sidetracked. Maybe even Hermes intervenes and helps push them out of the trance. Or at least Percy, so they can still have their conversation. The exposition dump and reveal of the casinos purpose is my and many other fans problem in the first place, lol. Boring as fuck? A LOT of fans found that episode boring as fuck. And I'm sorry, but I highly doubt you're a screenwriter. Maybe YOU DONT have the mental scope to imagine a more engaging scene. Lol. The world isn't ruled by your perceptions or mental capacity. Obviously it's not the same. Ironic how you're judging me on rating its accuracy yet thats literally what the original commetor of this thread did. Factually it is not, nor would it have even been, completely accurate to the books. Nor is anyone saying it should have been. But it couldve been more accurate than what we got. Season1 of GoT did just fine a million years ago and on a lesser budget. They made story alterations and enhancements while still being able and willing to copy direct dialogue and scenes from their books and make it engaging. Like I said, try and gaslight someone else. Toxic positivity is just as bad as people running along on the hate train.
@@amelooloo Yeah, I'm aware. That wasn't my point though. The point is the scene isnt fun and the tension of the scene is cut off by an exposition dump that didn't exist in the very books it's meat to be adapting. Ironic how you're saying that that would be boring as fuck when that's literally many of us complainants problem with that scene in the show in the first place. Compared to the books and movie. It's boring as fuck. You're taking your own mental and imaginative limitations and translating that into the incapacity of professional screenwriters to adapt something comprehensive and engaging on screen. The trio goes into the casino, gets distracted by its magical charm and slowly realizes that something is wrong just like in the books. Eve the fucking movies, for God's sake, managed to portray this. In a fun and engaging manner, yet age inappropriate, at that. And maybe since I personally think the Hermes scene is a great inclusion, he himself helps pull Percy and Annabath out of their trance, so they can have their convo. And then they go to free Grover from his. Bravo, there you go. An alternate possibility that combines the new and old. I never said the show should or would be 100% accurate to the books. Im saying it damn sure isn't 95%. Dont push your fucking narrative onto me. Game of Thrones managed to adapt season 1 of its far more comprehensive books, albeit with a longer runtime, a million years ago and with a lesser budget than this show, to a far more accurate degree. It even included multiple lines of dialogue straight from the books. And im sure there are more examples. This show didn't have a small budget. And it damn sure isn't a small budget for a show with a roughly 30 minute runtime and only 8 episodes. Like I said, you can't sit here and gaslight me. I'm not going to turn into a brain dead joy hungry zombie just out of shere desperation for an adaption of those books.
I will say, in defense of Poseidon, that he was forbidden from fathering children a long time ago, so he in particular doesnt really have a bunch of bastard children. He fell in love with Sally Jackson and kept the kid secret from the other olympians so that Percy could be safe for as long as possible. So he has a great level of respect for her, which they did a good job of showing in their scene together. In the books I think he calls Sally a "Queen among women" (but id have to double check).
I want to see more of Poseidon. I'm looking forward to hearing more from the side of the gods. They across in books and lore and terrible horrible people. Maybe there's some type of justifications for their terrible actions. 🤷🏾♂️
1. "Hell" is a Christian concept. Hades (underworld), Zeus (sky) and Poseidon (sea) simply split up the three kingdoms of the world. Ruling the underworld isn't a punishment, though it is a difficult job. There are different parts - Elysium for heroes, Asphodel for ordinary folks, and the Fields of Punishment for the evil. (Hades is also the god of wealth, since all the gold, gems etc. of the earth belong to him). 2. The movies are AWFUL. Both movies. AWFUL. Scrub them from your brain. 3. Leah's casting as Annabeth didn't upset the fanbase. It upset some racist idiots. 4. Just FYI: Riordan's name is pronounced RYE-er-dun.
Hades is the god of harvests, collections, miners. That is why he is married to an agricultural goddess, because he “harvests” her in the autumn (abducts her from the world). Hades is like a collector of riches, whether he’s rich in grains and gold and gems. He should have a curio cabinet, with super rare items in his living room. In the books he is a very tragic figure who has been as rejected and unloved as Hephaestus (the blacksmith/tinkerer god). Kronos (Father Time/Saturn/Grim Reaper) is associated with sand inside time turners (or the tick of a clock, which is a modern invention). Kronos (chronology) is in pieces to represent the division of time in seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years. Kronos consumes his children the same way time consumes our lives. The fact that the solstice has passed already in the show points to the fact that Kronos has already won, at least in some small way. However, Percy is not afraid of running out of time. He says, “We’re all dying,” like a boss. Annabeth told Percy she already tried getting unstuck from her regret. She has a very strong knife, which is what she was referencing, so that’s why Percy didn’t use his sword. They should have shown her knife, though.
Oh and I agree with you. I think Rick changing it so that the Trio is smarter too. I think Annabeth and Grover being knowledgeable is the greatest improvement from the books. It makes no sense that Annabeth the smartest demigod around doesn’t know who Medusa is, especially with who her mother is. Sure they would be ppl and monsters they don’t know but they should know the majority; that’s literally the whole point of the camp to prepare you for monsters. Then Percy’s mom taught him a lot about the gods too. So he’s not a naive as he is in the books. The only ppl they shouldn’t know is the gods bc they can change their forms. I was going to reread the book before the show but decided not too. I’m glad I did because I can enjoy the show for what it is and not be hung up on details. Like the only peeve I have is episode length not being consistent. That fifth episode 34min really 27min one just pissed me off. So my hope with s2 is just a consistent 43-45min episodes. And spend a few more moments in camp. The show is still ten times better than the movies.
Now that Percy is almost done, have Rekkai and you thought about Hazbin Hotel? It has more depth than I expected, and I think you both would enjoy it. If there is no room to slide it in the schedule, I completely understand. Thx for creating so much content for us
First, Hades was not banished in Greek Mythology. The brothers drew lots and Zeus had first pick, Poseidon had second pick and Hades had last pick. Second the story has changed a bit from the book in small details, but it’s basically the story of the book.
This episode is pretty close to the book. The only difference (without spoilers) is that when the bolt pops up, the helm does too. And they both pop up as soon as they walk into Hades' palace- there's a line about how heavy the backpack starts feeling as soon as they get past the gates. Right now, I'm loving your theories on what's going to happen as people who only have the visual media to off of. Can't wait for your reactions to the last episode!
The Show has minor changes to the main plot, the primary changes have only ENHANCED the story been to fit a TV adaptation or work around limitations of live action. This series is extremely faithful to the core books and I love every second. For example in episode 6, many book readers were clutching their pearls because Percy received 4 pearls instead of 3. Only for Grover to lose a pearl in episode 7 and they still ended up with 3 pearls. I would the advise the negativity boom purists with bad media literacy to just watch the show when it’s done instead of nitpicking. Week by week it’s easier to notice minor changes, but as a whole the season 1 tv format adaptation has been stellar overall in terms of 1:1 book ratio
Ngl, I’m a major book fan and one that has been enjoying the show and most of the changes so far. However, this was the first episode that truly disappointed me from the change with Procrustes, to Percy finding the bolt in his bag before his talk with Hades and then to Percy literally figuring out it was Kronos seemingly out of nowhere. It took the suspense out of one of the biggest reveals of the entire series lol
Actually with the movie they ask Rick to look at the script and Rick said this isn’t my book in name only. Then preceded to rewrite the script with notes. The studio said thanks but no thanks. I think Rick has pictures of his notes on his site. 😂 like it was so bad. You should do a watch/rewatch of the movies and compare them to the show once over. Which you like better.
the series has been faithful to the books. yes, there has been changes when it comes to how and when events occur but it still follows the story beats that have happened in the book. it's mostly moving around some of the plot points so it better fits the forma of the show. unlike the movie that the plot was lost a third of the way through.
Just want to say that even though I’m upset with the changes they made in how they delivered the audience information about the plot. It still generally hits the major plot points of the book. They’re more so changing how information is being learned by the audience and the way certain things play out is different, like modifications to existing events
Its kinda funny because Hollywood has ruined hade's image because in greek mythology he is not evil more like neutral if a demigod ask for help he will help bro just want to be left alone for example Hercules went to the underworld and ask for Cerberus and all hade's ask him to do is bring back unharmed 😂
"Hey Unc, can I borrow your dog?"
"Sure, just have him back before dinner time."
😂
Well they regularly describe him not as hades but as “the one with power below” and they say he is “most hated amongst mortals”, but not because he is a bad god, but because he represents death. I’m Euripides’ Hecuba I actually argue that hades is the only godly presence which we can feel and he brings justice. Also in the book, he explains that he doesn’t want war because that just means more dead people and the underworld is already overcrowded. Anyway hades is never bad, the dead is just his domain and that’s the only reason he gets a bad rep.
The thing about hades is yeah your right , he’s not evil but he do hates people who aren’t dead entering the underworld
The story happens as it is in the book, after percy goes to the underworld, the master bolt emerges from his bag, hades is not really a villain, how Ares deceived them, percy decides to leave his mother with hades, not only Zeus's master bolt ,The fact that Hades' helm of darkness is also missing, all this happened as per the book, the movie went wrong there, Hades was never the villain, he was just a victim.
The author had virtually no say in the movies. When they send him the script he wrote back a lengthy e-mail absolutely ROASTING it and telling them if they go through with it, it will be a disaster (you can find that e-mail online btw, it's glorious). They completely ignored him lol.
I was so impressed with how the writing in this episode connected together thematically. First there's Procrustes' line: "Fitting's not easy for guys like us, am I right? Our parents make it so hard. Stretching us, and twisting us and hacking off pieces to make us seem more like them."
Then Sally's: "I want him to know who he is before your family tries to tell him who they want him to be."
Then there's Poseidon's agreement to respect Sally's wishes and not to force a sense of identity or purpose onto his son until Percy already knew who he was. Both Sally's and Poseidon's responses to the situation were the direct opposite of Procrustes' line from the beginning. They let Percy come into his own and develop a character capable of making the right choices himself instead of forcing him to "fit" into a mold of what they (or the gods) wanted. This show has been doing a lot to drive home the generational trauma theme/criticize toxic parenting behavior (like how Athena treated Annabeth in episode 4) but this and the chair scene in episode 5 knocked it out of the park for me.
Hades in Greek mythology has almost always shown positively or atleast neutral. He has the least amount of demigod children. Usually keeps to himself. The negative 'devil' connotation is mainly a Christian outlook/ probably Disney's Hercules. It's actually pretty interesting how many cultures do not view 'hell' or underworld negatively so you were a little off the mark there. But it's a great introduction to the concept!
Actually I don't think he has any demigod children in actual Greek Mythology, apart from the books...
@@davidalves31057 yeah, couldn't remember any so to be on the safer side, said least. But having none makes sense too.
Also because “hell” isn’t a thing in Greek mythology! It’s just the realm of the dead, with different parts within it. Hades isn’t the person who rules over bad people like the devil, he’s just the bloke who deals with all the dead, the good and the bad.
I love this portrayal of Hades! And i love this episode. I can't comment any more on the episode or my feelings about the movie without spoilers.
My favorite depiction of death is in the Discworld books. He's got a job to do, he talks in all caps in the books, and he takes an interest in humans. Also, he has a badass granddaughter named Susan. I recommend watching the 2006 Hogfather BBC mini series. Hogfather is the Discworld version of Santa Claus.
I love both Pratchett and Riordan :)
Annabeth's Hat and Hades's Helm of Darkness are two different things, but both make people invisible.
dont ruin it for them bro let em watch the show??
Underworld isn't Hell. All souls: good, bad, and mediocre go to Hades. Hades is not Devil. He was on of the least problematic gods in Greek mythology.
The only complaint I had with the episode was that they didn’t include the joke about them trying to fool death. It’s more of a nitpick tbf. What a great episode
i was upset about the whole crusty scene. they've cut out a lot of the side quest suspense and obliviousness that the books had. knowing about medusa could be believable but where the heck did the crusty life history come from????
19:10 I hear what the man with the Diamond Mind was saying, but a little bit of clarity. Hades wasn't punished. He was cheated. The 3 brothers gambled to see who got what domain. Hades is the oldest and gets the least respect. Also the Underworld and Hades are tainted by Christian perception. Hades isn't evil, he just is. The Underworld includes not just Tartarus(hell) but Asphodel (purgatory) and the Elysium Fields (heaven). Because of the collective fear we have of death, any overseer of it is considered evil. Death is a force of nature, it isn't inherently evil or good. Arguably it's the most powerful because no one can fight it. Hades is always seen as the devil, I say all that to say, give my goth homies their flowers. Shout out to Hades, Shiva, Oya, Anubis, Osiris
I think that the show is trying to still be more similar to the books than anything, but Rick has used the show as a opportunity to change some things that he always felt he wanted to change and stuff like that. Anyways the way I see it at least is that it’s supposed to be telling the same story as the books and is trying to make you feel nostalgic for the books, but also kind of doing whatever they want with the show and have fun little changes so that it’s not just like copy and pasted from the book.
It's 95% faithful to the book... (5% changes are cosmetic or for the better by the author)
The books' fans are happy. :)
Maybe the films'fans are unhappy with it.
I’ve seen people unironically say movie Hades is better than show Hades… and Idek what to say
@@agrimmeon9308the lotus casino scene is 3 pages in the book. about 80% of those 3 pages is percy’s inner monologue. the only plot that happens is that they nap, shower, and then play video games for a bit before percy realizes that there are people from different decades playing too, and he makes them leave. how do you think they would have translated that directly to the screen without it being boring as fuck with a bunch of voiceover?
it’s absolutely a faithful adaptation. (ADAPTATION being the key word). obviously it’s not the same, but it’s not meant to be the same. if you want an exact replica of the book, read the book. adaptations are never exact because there are certain things you can do in books that you cant do in film. they’re taking all the important and relevant story beats but changing them slightly so they better serve the tv medium, as well as the narrative as a whole.
@@agrimmeon9308the show is more serious because you dont have the same kind of levity that comes within percy’s inner monologue. the events that happen throughout the book series are really quite serious and dark, but percy copes with them with humor and sarcasm, thus making it more manageable for both him as a child experiencing all this violence, and as the reader experiencing it via his less serious lense. it’s kind of hard to make the sight of a bunch of 12 year olds fighting monsters and sacrificing their lives “not serious” and “lighthearted” when you don’t have the perspective of a child trying to make the best of a horrible situation.
@@amelooloo And it's multiple minutes long on the show so whats your point? Easy. Have the trio go into the casino, get distracted like they do in the books AND movie, and then slowly realize that they are being sidetracked. Maybe even Hermes intervenes and helps push them out of the trance. Or at least Percy, so they can still have their conversation.
The exposition dump and reveal of the casinos purpose is my and many other fans problem in the first place, lol.
Boring as fuck? A LOT of fans found that episode boring as fuck.
And I'm sorry, but I highly doubt you're a screenwriter. Maybe YOU DONT have the mental scope to imagine a more engaging scene. Lol. The world isn't ruled by your perceptions or mental capacity.
Obviously it's not the same. Ironic how you're judging me on rating its accuracy yet thats literally what the original commetor of this thread did. Factually it is not, nor would it have even been, completely accurate to the books. Nor is anyone saying it should have been. But it couldve been more accurate than what we got. Season1 of GoT did just fine a million years ago and on a lesser budget. They made story alterations and enhancements while still being able and willing to copy direct dialogue and scenes from their books and make it engaging. Like I said, try and gaslight someone else. Toxic positivity is just as bad as people running along on the hate train.
@@amelooloo Yeah, I'm aware. That wasn't my point though. The point is the scene isnt fun and the tension of the scene is cut off by an exposition dump that didn't exist in the very books it's meat to be adapting. Ironic how you're saying that that would be boring as fuck when that's literally many of us complainants problem with that scene in the show in the first place. Compared to the books and movie. It's boring as fuck.
You're taking your own mental and imaginative limitations and translating that into the incapacity of professional screenwriters to adapt something comprehensive and engaging on screen.
The trio goes into the casino, gets distracted by its magical charm and slowly realizes that something is wrong just like in the books. Eve the fucking movies, for God's sake, managed to portray this. In a fun and engaging manner, yet age inappropriate, at that. And maybe since I personally think the Hermes scene is a great inclusion, he himself helps pull Percy and Annabath out of their trance, so they can have their convo. And then they go to free Grover from his. Bravo, there you go. An alternate possibility that combines the new and old.
I never said the show should or would be 100% accurate to the books. Im saying it damn sure isn't 95%. Dont push your fucking narrative onto me. Game of Thrones managed to adapt season 1 of its far more comprehensive books, albeit with a longer runtime, a million years ago and with a lesser budget than this show, to a far more accurate degree. It even included multiple lines of dialogue straight from the books. And im sure there are more examples. This show didn't have a small budget. And it damn sure isn't a small budget for a show with a roughly 30 minute runtime and only 8 episodes.
Like I said, you can't sit here and gaslight me. I'm not going to turn into a brain dead joy hungry zombie just out of shere desperation for an adaption of those books.
8:28 Hacking at the vines also means hacking at her leg, though. He might have thought it too dangerous.
The last bit is Sally praying to poseidon. That's why she lit a fire and dropped it on the 🍧
I will say, in defense of Poseidon, that he was forbidden from fathering children a long time ago, so he in particular doesnt really have a bunch of bastard children. He fell in love with Sally Jackson and kept the kid secret from the other olympians so that Percy could be safe for as long as possible. So he has a great level of respect for her, which they did a good job of showing in their scene together. In the books I think he calls Sally a "Queen among women" (but id have to double check).
I want to see more of Poseidon. I'm looking forward to hearing more from the side of the gods. They across in books and lore and terrible horrible people. Maybe there's some type of justifications for their terrible actions. 🤷🏾♂️
1. "Hell" is a Christian concept. Hades (underworld), Zeus (sky) and Poseidon (sea) simply split up the three kingdoms of the world. Ruling the underworld isn't a punishment, though it is a difficult job. There are different parts - Elysium for heroes, Asphodel for ordinary folks, and the Fields of Punishment for the evil. (Hades is also the god of wealth, since all the gold, gems etc. of the earth belong to him).
2. The movies are AWFUL. Both movies. AWFUL. Scrub them from your brain.
3. Leah's casting as Annabeth didn't upset the fanbase. It upset some racist idiots.
4. Just FYI: Riordan's name is pronounced RYE-er-dun.
i say rye or dun too but the cast call him ree your dun so now im confused
Hades is the god of harvests, collections, miners. That is why he is married to an agricultural goddess, because he “harvests” her in the autumn (abducts her from the world). Hades is like a collector of riches, whether he’s rich in grains and gold and gems. He should have a curio cabinet, with super rare items in his living room. In the books he is a very tragic figure who has been as rejected and unloved as Hephaestus (the blacksmith/tinkerer god).
Kronos (Father Time/Saturn/Grim Reaper) is associated with sand inside time turners (or the tick of a clock, which is a modern invention). Kronos (chronology) is in pieces to represent the division of time in seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years. Kronos consumes his children the same way time consumes our lives. The fact that the solstice has passed already in the show points to the fact that Kronos has already won, at least in some small way. However, Percy is not afraid of running out of time. He says, “We’re all dying,” like a boss.
Annabeth told Percy she already tried getting unstuck from her regret. She has a very strong knife, which is what she was referencing, so that’s why Percy didn’t use his sword. They should have shown her knife, though.
Oh and I agree with you. I think Rick changing it so that the Trio is smarter too. I think Annabeth and Grover being knowledgeable is the greatest improvement from the books. It makes no sense that Annabeth the smartest demigod around doesn’t know who Medusa is, especially with who her mother is. Sure they would be ppl and monsters they don’t know but they should know the majority; that’s literally the whole point of the camp to prepare you for monsters. Then Percy’s mom taught him a lot about the gods too. So he’s not a naive as he is in the books. The only ppl they shouldn’t know is the gods bc they can change their forms.
I was going to reread the book before the show but decided not too. I’m glad I did because I can enjoy the show for what it is and not be hung up on details. Like the only peeve I have is episode length not being consistent. That fifth episode 34min really 27min one just pissed me off. So my hope with s2 is just a consistent 43-45min episodes. And spend a few more moments in camp. The show is still ten times better than the movies.
Yeah ironically despite popular belief Hades is mostly chill in actual mythology.
The underworld is where you go when you die... its both heaven and hell. Its just the realm of the dead
Now that Percy is almost done, have Rekkai and you thought about Hazbin Hotel? It has more depth than I expected, and I think you both would enjoy it. If there is no room to slide it in the schedule, I completely understand. Thx for creating so much content for us
First, Hades was not banished in Greek Mythology. The brothers drew lots and Zeus had first pick, Poseidon had second pick and Hades had last pick.
Second the story has changed a bit from the book in small details, but it’s basically the story of the book.
This episode is pretty close to the book. The only difference (without spoilers) is that when the bolt pops up, the helm does too. And they both pop up as soon as they walk into Hades' palace- there's a line about how heavy the backpack starts feeling as soon as they get past the gates.
Right now, I'm loving your theories on what's going to happen as people who only have the visual media to off of. Can't wait for your reactions to the last episode!
I think you're misremembering. Ares has Hades' helm in the book - Percy ends up with it after their beach fight.
Annabeth's hat is a copy of Hades' helm. It's not the same thing.
The Show has minor changes to the main plot, the primary changes have only ENHANCED the story been to fit a TV adaptation or work around limitations of live action. This series is extremely faithful to the core books and I love every second.
For example in episode 6, many book readers were clutching their pearls because Percy received 4 pearls instead of 3. Only for Grover to lose a pearl in episode 7 and they still ended up with 3 pearls. I would the advise the negativity boom purists with bad media literacy to just watch the show when it’s done instead of nitpicking. Week by week it’s easier to notice minor changes, but as a whole the season 1 tv format adaptation has been stellar overall in terms of 1:1 book ratio
Ngl, I’m a major book fan and one that has been enjoying the show and most of the changes so far. However, this was the first episode that truly disappointed me from the change with Procrustes, to Percy finding the bolt in his bag before his talk with Hades and then to Percy literally figuring out it was Kronos seemingly out of nowhere. It took the suspense out of one of the biggest reveals of the entire series lol
Hades is not synonymous with the christian devil. At all. The concept of hell does not exist in greek mythology. You have to seperate the two.
just to clarify, Annabeths hat is not the Helm!
THANKS for this!!!!!
Actually with the movie they ask Rick to look at the script and Rick said this isn’t my book in name only. Then preceded to rewrite the script with notes. The studio said thanks but no thanks. I think Rick has pictures of his notes on his site. 😂 like it was so bad. You should do a watch/rewatch of the movies and compare them to the show once over. Which you like better.
the series has been faithful to the books. yes, there has been changes when it comes to how and when events occur but it still follows the story beats that have happened in the book. it's mostly moving around some of the plot points so it better fits the forma of the show. unlike the movie that the plot was lost a third of the way through.
Annabeth black girl magic
Please review the prophecy from the oracle before watching the finale.
Just want to say that even though I’m upset with the changes they made in how they delivered the audience information about the plot. It still generally hits the major plot points of the book. They’re more so changing how information is being learned by the audience and the way certain things play out is different, like modifications to existing events
This was good can't wait for the battle of war
hades is not hell. everybody goes there until their judgement
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