2GRFE MR2 SW20 Install Instructions Video #1
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- This is the first of four videos planned on how to get the 2GR-FE installed into an MKII MR2 (SW20/SW21)
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Feel free to reach out to me with any questions: Marc@frankensteinmotorworks.com
I tweaked the editing style a bit more. trying to keep shots a bit more continuous and a bit more to the point. This was helped quite a bit by upgrading to Final Cut Pro. As i get used to the software it should get even better.
Thank you for your patience in letting me get this video out. The next one should follow within a month (depends on holidays and the day job).
Hey nice job and video.. I was thinking of swapping this into my 74 Toyota Corolla. Any way you could get me the dimensions of the engine ? i would appreciate it! Thanks
@@user-pd9vm9ts1o External dimensions on a motor like that really don't give you enough information to see if it fits. I'd classify this as a wide "big head" DOHC motor. You'll need at least 20" between the frame rails, 24" between the strut tower tops and 24" of height to fit it in. it's also 21" long but that dimension will definitely not give you a problem.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Great thanks !
Bookmarking this vid to come back in a few years when I have $ 😂
Bookmark the playlist instead just in case i have to edit the video: ruclips.net/video/8_i8IYLLKho/видео.html
Frankenstein Motorworks good looking out man thanks
@@trv88r you and I both brother
Lol true true
how the $ bit goin? 😆
Great Video Marc!
You really are very easy to listen to, and you have an excellent instructional style! Great job on this one Marc!
Thank you!
I am speechless. Very comprehensive initial video for an MR-2 SW20 2GR-FE build. You've covered everything up to the smallest details (what parts to shave off/grind when mating the engine with the trans, the bolts used, torque specs, common issues, etc.). This makes me confident to do it on my own! Now I just need an SW20 and the 2GR-FE. ;) Thank you very much!
Stumbled across your videos after watching some K-swap videos. I’ve always been more of a Mazda fan but I have a soft spot for the SW20. I still remember going for a spirited drive on a coastal (Australian) road years ago in my little turbo 4WD Ford Laser (same shell as the early 90s USDM Escort) and a SW20 easily kept up through the twisties. Nowadays my family car is actually 2GR-FE powered (Kluger/Highlander), this video makes me want to buy an SW20 and do the swap. I’ve always had a thing for small 6-cylinder powered cars, and the MR2 would be worthy of the effort at least, unlike KL swapping a 90s Mazda.
Thanks for watching my videos, i appreciate it. The 2GR really is a pretty fantastic motor and it makes the SW20 feel like a modern car. It's a perfect combination of big engine and little car.
This is perfect timing since I’m getting ready to replace my blown 5sfe. Thanks for making this and your contribution to the community!
Most interesting engine vid I've seen in a while.
Thank you, i appreciate it. I'm currently working on the electrical video. i hope to have it up in a few weeks at most.
Thanks a ton for making this series!!!!
I think you might have misspoke when you were talking about the three bolts attaching the top of the transmission. You said m10x1.25 and I believe they are m12x1.25. At 8:13
Damn, you're absolutely right. Unfortunately RUclips gives me no tools at all to allow me to make a correction to a video without invalidating all the links to it. It really bugs the heck out of me, i understand why they do that for political videos and such but for videos in this class they really should allow annotations at an absolute minimum to call out errors like this.
Yeah that is unfortunate, you could probably just pin a comment with the correction so it shows up at the top of the comment section.
Also, In the video description a list of parts used in each video would be nice and might make the videos easier to follow along.
You're doing an awesome job, thanks Marc
Thank you for the kind words, i really appreciate it!
im still missing both the car and the engine but im sure as hell be saving this for the future lol
nice job sir!
Awesome videos thank you for putting these together!
You're welcome :) I've actually been working on shooting video today for the next one. I hope to have it out soon-ish.
Oh my gosh. This is amazing! Thanks for this! I'm 2 years on jackstands but I have a feeling 2020 is my year.
Awesome, where is the swap at? what's left to do?
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I have the pieces to the puzzle and the 5sfe pulled. Just waiting for warmer weather and it's go time
Hows the car coming?
Finished the swap September 2020. It's a great street car. I'm going to be building a 2gr next year. And swapping it again. Glutton for punishment
Thanks for sharing your jdm project you make it look so easy 👍
Great vid! Keep 'em comin'!
I’ve been debating between K20 or 2GR and this is persuading me now, Thanks
That's fantastic news :) we don't need another K20 powered MR2 out there :) I'm available over e-mail also if you have questions that aren't answered in these videos.
No worries bro
You are doing a amazing job. Will you Demonstrate or show us how to convert the harness?
Frankenstein Motorworks I’m in nyc so for me to pick up any parts for a K swap is easily a 15-30min to a store. So it’s real easy but I want to keep the Sw20 a Toyota heart
@@FrankensteinMotorworks hey good day bro what transmission did u use the original mr2 gearbox?
Interesting, the vvti line on my 08 rav4 used the double connected crush washer on the back of the block and a single washer at the top
yeah, honestly i don't understand the reason for a lot of the tiny changes like that. it almost feels like changes for the sake of changes sometimes.
Nice video, wish I had this a few years ago lol 😂
Looking good. I need to test drive an SW20/SW21 MR2 with the 2GR to see how I like it. I currently have a stock 94 MR2 Turbo and I'm not really impressed by the 3SGTE in stock form.
I had a Celica all trac and was also unimpressed. I RAT2 put a 2GR in my 91 NA last spring and it’s a beast. Changing to an E153 right now.
Really helpful thanks Marc!
I really need to find a 2gr
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If you guys sold a guide with a part list and step by step instructions I'd probably buy it just to look at it.
"You guys" is just me. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have about details but this video series is about as much time as i can afford spend on these instructions. This is already a pretty significant effort.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks ah that makes sense. I can't attempt this swap at the moment but definitely in the future when I have a garage of my own and an engine hoist
Hi frank I got gs 300 v6 I need a flywheel clutch what do I use pls get back to me
What clutch cylinder have you used on the 2gr after mating is the manual transmission?
how similar is the sw20 bay to the aw11? could i use most of this information when doing that swap?
Does anyone know if there are any particular steps to skip or different steps to take when pairing the 2gr to an E351 transmission instead of an E153? I've read they're mostly the same but just wanted to check, thanks.
your so smart, you know so much.. goodshit bro! Keep it up! Question: what’s your dream car?
Sick!
Man, I wish I could just send me car to you and have it in safe hands while doing the swap haha
Good video for sure.
Thank you Marc for putting these videos together. It's so nice to see it done and you make it look fun. I am a little confused on what year Avalon axle mount works best. Would you happen to have a part number for the best fitting one? Thanks
The avalon one i've been using is 43457-07010 but i'm getting a production sample for a new bracket today that will not require any machining. These will be available for sale very soon.
That's awesome news. Thanks again!
Is there not a bore for a pilot bearing at all? Or does that gearbox not use a pilot bearing for some reason
I need to replace the timing chain on my engine, toyota has some OEM engine hangers to pull the engine… what did you use to pull it?
will the transmission of 1993 mr2 5f-e work with this 2GRFE Engine ? also i have seen that the Lexus ES also used this engine is there any difference ?
At 03:06 on the motor to the right, that brass colored bolt with what looks like a breather tube. What is the purpose of that?
Wait so you can just bolt up a solara transmission ?
Will a 2gr bolt up to an r160? Do you know the 2wd RWD manual compatibility options?
The 2GR-FE matches the 5VZ bolt pattern except the starter location does not quite match up. There's no 100% bolt up transmission available but i am working on a kit for the TL70
Hey Hi! What kind of rear-wheel drive manual transmission would you prefer for this engine?
Don't think there is one which has the starter mounted in the bellousing, unless you were to have a custom bellhousing made to mate to a w58 or r154 or whatever gearbox.
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Hey bud whats a good toyota trans rear wheel drive ,that i caan use
the bolt pattern is going to be very similar to the 5VZ so the truck transmissions that used that used the 5VZ may work. You will need to make sure you look carefully and consider the starter mounting.
What are those headers from a toyota mr2?
This video has the previous version of my headers, the new ones are here. They flow a bit better and make about 5whp more: frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/shop/2gr-fe-exhaust-header
What would I need to swap a 2gr into a1998 Toyota surf
I don't know the details of the Toyota Surf but the 2GR has the same bolt pattern as the 5VZ and has been mounted to the same transmissions with some clearancing to make the starter fit.
I can't remember what video I saw where you are talking about upgrading the fuel pump, but you mentioned with the Aeromotive 50-1200 you may need to upgrade fuel return line size? I will be reinstalling the 5sfe, but want to just replace the fuel pump while the engine is out and prepare for a future engine swap. Can you advise on what exactly I should do to run the Aero pump with a 5sfe. Thanks!
I don't have specific instructions for that but you'll need to replace the return line to be big enough to handle the max flow of the pump. The quick and easy way to be sure is just to make it the same size as the feed line. Stock the feed line is 8mm and the return line is 6mm
THANK YOU MARK:WOULD YOU REPLY TO ME TO WORK OUT A 2GR-FE TURBO ENGINE FOR ME SO WE CAN GO OVER DETAILS
my website has contact info: frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/contact but ATS sells a turbo kit for the SW20 2gr-fe already.
Anybody have the model number or year for the latest Solara transmission??
The XV30 that ends in 2008 is the latest solara and it had a manual trans available until the end.
So you said a 340hp beast. Is that just from the tune setup on the ecu you sale? Or did you mod the engine other than the bolt on from video? awesome though ill be waiting for more.
Matt, 340hp is the estimated flywheel horsepower, i haven't actually put it on an engine dyno but with my headers, tuned ECU, MAF pipe, Alex Wilhelm's y-pipe and a berk tail section it makes 290whp and Alex has actually been working on a few flow tweaks and he's even gotten it to 301whp. This is all with zero internal modifications, not even porting at this point though that's likely going to be necessary to push it much further in naturally aspirated trim.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks thanks for the info. to even get to around 300 to the wheels with no internal work is awesome.
@@mattpeebs32 Yeah, it really is. The only downside is this motor is an absolute screamer when you open it up. It sounds really good but not everyone wants to draw that much attention when they get on the loud pedal. At least it cruises and idles very silently. below about 3500RPM and 20% throttle you generally can’t hear it. The Jekyl/Hyde personality is because of the VVT-I system.
Great video Marc ! Will you be doing a video on AC?
It isn't guaranteed yet but i'm thinking of doing an "Adding air conditioning" addendum at the end of all of this.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I see on the mr20c the mention of the 1GR compressor and just having ends made to adapt to the lines is this the best option? doesn't seem that bad.
@@jdalzell3354 Yeah, it should be relatively straight forward. I haven't done one myself with that setup but the reason for not doing it up front is the chassis i'm installing this in has had the A/C circuit sitting open for about 11 years now. I just don't want to deal with stuff that will slow down the video making process. Also, with winter about to show up i won't be able to charge it up since my shop really does not have any reliable heat in it.
Do you know if one needs to the two center coolant tubes that flow in the valley under the intake if you are eliminating the heater core? Could one block them off and just run a crossover at the back of the motor between the two heads?
I haven't studied the flow to see if it's a good idea or not but the SW20 blocks it off when the heat is off anyways and it hasn't caused issues in the last decade so i'd say you ca likely cap them off with no ill effect.
That's how we were feeling. We'll cap them off and let you know if it heats up or not. Probably put a temp sensor back there and on the front.
Hi mate.....I recently got the 2gr-fse version...does the 3s transmission bolt up to it aswell...was just eyeballing the bolt holes in the engine and trans today and it doesn't seem to be in the same locations
Unfortunately not. the 2GR-FSE is a completely different engine and will not work in a transverse application without an absolute ton of work.
Question on the shaft if I’m using a non turbo transmission what do I need to do to make useable ? Do I still use the Avalon bracket what shaft do I need? And does it need to be milled down ? Thanks
The S54 transmission does not use a right side axle support so there's no problem to solve there.
Excellent video as always Mark, just a question, that oil line your using in 15:48, is that a custom part or a toyota part?
That's a factory part that was developed for the rubber line recall. Toyota part number: 15772-31030 it costs $20-30 depending on where you buy it.
What about the oil line on bank 2? There is zero info online and it’s never mentioned anywhere! I have a 2GR FE that appears to be leaking from the area where the vvti oil line bolts to the block on bank 2, but it’s behind the alternator and not visible. Is the bank 2 oil line prone to leak and does the alternator require removal to remove it from the block. My 2GR FE is a 2007 and does have the rubber hose on bank1 that I need to replace.... My problem is that I have oil running down the head gasket seam (between block &head) on bank 2, but can’t see where it is coming from....
Where did you find the hoist brackets to lift the engine?
I just used a few pieces of scrap metal but if you want the official toyota parts, order 12281-31120 and 12282-31100
thank you for making all this video and parts, hope soon i will oder it
here is a few question if you'd be so kind to answer will be really thankful:
1. I see on u web site 2 ecu, but dont really understand which one is better and whats the different between those?
2.I read about ECU that there is "VVTI target angles changed to remove torque tapering off at 6250RPM rev limiter raised to 7200RPM" so its will not damage or make resource of engine much lower ?
3. I see the diagrams on you web site but there is only for RAV ECU, so that would be the same for highlander ECU also ?
4.Whats you think if i install your highlander ECU and wil have a OBD, is that good idia to have just screen and bluetooth adapter so like electric dash, or its buggy and slow ?
5. And the last question nowhere i can find information about 0-60 aftrer swap 2grfe
Thank you very much
Zaza,
1)The only difference between the ECUs is which harness you use and the 5-plug does not have working cruise control. Otherwise they both make the same amount of power.
2)There's no extra wear from the tune, the stock engine is not tuned like this because this makes it be way too loud.
3)I do not currently have a easy wiring diagram drawn up for the highlander. I sell very few of those so i have not made the documentation at this point.
4)i would have the tachometer and the speedometer be actual gauges, bluetooth and OBDII is a bit slow for a gauge cluster.
5)it depends on many variables but it can get down to about 4.2s 0-60
Thank you very much for answers !
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Do you know if I can use a 3gr fse ? I have a Lexus gs300 with 2jz swap and I have the 3gr waiting for a car 😂👌👌 thanks
unfortunately not, the longitudinal versions of these engines are different than the transverse ones used for the swap.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I think with some work in my workshop it can be done ✌🏻☺️
Hello thanks for the great video, question did you use the entire new stlye 153e trans from a different make of car? Or was the new style trans also available in the MR2?
That was a 93+ MR2 transmission but you can use the Solara bellhousing if you want to do this and you can also get the updated synchros and better final drive ratio from the same transmission.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks thanks so much for the reply, in the video you said this is the newer model e153. I got excited thought it was the version out of the v6 Camrys/Solara.
I cant find for the life of me a big enough sized tap wrench handle. Every single one is 1/4 to 1/2 and the tap I got is too big to fit into that. Cant find one that's bigger anywhere.
Also could just use a regular socket wrench but I can't find a female to female socket adapter! Am I being stupid and overlooking something?
If you are careful to keep things aligned you can just use a crescent wrench.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks yea that was the last option I guess haha. Where'd you get yours to work with a socket wrench?
@@mushlove6933 i just used square drive sockets like these: amzn.to/3BgWCKA
@@FrankensteinMotorworks ohh yeah I always forget about 8 point sockets.. dang. I'll see if I have any. If not I'll order.. thanks marc!
What do I need to install to a 2gr to get 340hp
Mostly just open up the exhaust but we run headers and a super short exhaust, a special MAF pipe with a velocity stack and an ECU calibration and the Venza upper intake manifold. Completely unopened engines.
What's best oil in these motors ??
On the race track I use Klotz 5w20 and for the street I use Mobil1 0w20.
I like the videos your doing, should help a lot when I decide to do this swap.. (I know I will eventually)
Any word on if the Scion tC 6 speed would work? I think I have one sitting at work that Toyota never called back with diff noise.
The EB60 transmission does bolt up to the 2GR with a bit of grinding in a few spots but it's a great transmission. It will require three custom motor mounts and some custom shift linkage though. I made mounts and linkage for that trans for my MKIII 2ar-fe swap kit but not for the MKII.
Frankenstein Motorworks eh a little custom fab didn’t hurt anyone. 6 speed seems like it’d be a good fit for the 2gr (unless I could get my hands on a lotus unit) just gotta find a car.
@@001dman I have an Evora EA60 trans here that i would just straight up trade for that EB60 if that's what you really want but i will warn you that i would be getting the better part of that deal. The EA is certainly stronger but it's also much bigger and heavier. I'm absolutely serious about the swap if you're interested.
Frankenstein Motorworks I’ll see if it’s still back there and not tagged by Toyota. If they tagged it I can’t take it. Yet
@@001dman Yup, i know a few guys that work at a dealership. i know how that works :) no hurry on my side.
Can you custom this box?
Yes, you can mix and match parts with other e-series transmissions to get many other gear ratios and final drive ratios you want. There's also a few aftermarket gear and final drive options.
Is that Mr2 transmission the same used with the 2ZZFE
Unfortunately the 2zz's transmission is a completely different bolt pattern.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks so I guess I can't put this v6 on my celica
@@cesarortega6615 Correct, you would need to swap the transaxle also. The E series from a 2010 and earlier Scion tC would be a good fit for this.
And how much money will it cost?
The 2GR-FE swap in the MR2 costs about $6000-7000 if you're doing it yourself. But that's if you're in the USA and i don't think you are so you'll have to make your shopping list and figure it out based on local parts availability.
Yes, I already have a car, and I put this engine in this car. That's because I'm tired of changing machines. I want to put a mechanical box.
If I buy an e153 manual transmission, and it will ring a bell for me as well as you will with your alterations. I understand correctly.
Hell no gotta have ac😅
You should 340hp my Rav4!
You'd be surprised how often I get requests from the rav4 crowd. If I ever branch out from the MR2 crowd there's a good chance it'll be to the rav4 and/or the Avalon (yeah, I realize Avalon sounds odd but it's where all the requests come from).
Meanwhile, if you want more power the answer is a custom y-pipe. the y-pipe on these stock applications are always awful and dramatically reduce available power.
With the custom y pipe do you need a tune I assume?
@@Adam-di3mn No, the stock ECU tune is actually really good at compensating for those kinds of things.
im so confused what i just watched-