First impressions after Long tube headers and X-Pipe install - Speed Engineering Long tube headers
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In this video we installed Speed Engineering Long tube headers and X-pipe on the 2016 Camaro SS
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This what I like to see! Mo Powa Baby! I can’t wait to install mines over the winter. That setup sounds really good with NPP
Yeah it sounds good.Going out on the weekend to see if there is any performance gain.Still running the same tune so may not see any gains.
Saw any gains ??
Yeah it gained a little MPH in the 1/4 mile. As far as ET it is all over the place because we still haven't been able to figure out the traction issues. The car definitely sounds wicked after adding the headers and Xpipe. As far as price goes this is probably one of the best kits out there. Some people have claimed they had fitment issues but we got lucky and everything fit perfectly.
Nothing like the sound of a beautiful exhaust especially w equal length pipe on each side that is what truly makes the super clean crisp sound of a corvette Camaro GTO ETC. equal length on both sides is key awsome sounding car bub NORTH MAINE STEVE
I agree
Also 2" wont free up any extra hp worth the cost diff and not necessary unless supercharged and cam/heads.
Definitely sounding good
Yeah I like it.It is a little loud but it still has the valves in the exhaust to quiet it down a little.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 i purchased them same headers I’ll be installing soon
Good choice.They are reasonably priced and made of stainless steel.We found they were very easy to install and fit very well.
I got some for my 5th gen 2010 2SS. However, the driver side headers have to be forced up past the driver side steering coupler. Once it’s up there, it’s TERRIBLE to try to fully remove again for adjustments.
Also, I had to dent in the frontmost 2 first header collector pipes. Both of those contact the steering coupler, esp the 2nd collector. I ended up hammering them in, at the very least, a solid ~2 mm worth of denting.
Aside from that, I did dent in the passenger side heat shield around the fuel lines, on that side of the engine bay.
I was also able to run some generic, universal ceramic core, 3” high flow cats. Only downside is that only 2-2.5” cats contain o2 bungs (offset and/or center). I ended up having an issue running exhaust reducers/adapters for the 2.5” cats, so the 3” ones worked with a bit of modifications to the exhaust couplers/adapters. Ended up connecting the secondary, downstream o2 sensors, and zip-tying the harness clips onto my transmission lines (LS3, TR-6060).
Yeah it sucks you have to go through all the trouble to install headers but it is pretty common especially when you are using 1 7/8 or larger headers.
Gotta remove steering shaft. mark it first
Does this exhaust system remove all cats? And nice video
Yes we had to remove the cats.
@@LSxMotorsports2021did you have to tune it? Also did you get check engine light?
@SoToAnTrAx You can run this without any tuning but you will get a check engine light. To avoid the check engine light you need to turn off the the MIL codes for the secondary O2 sensors and if you have an automatic you need to turn off the codes for the valves in the exhaust for the DOD. But it will run fine without a tune you just have to deal with having the check engine light on.
Looks like you're up in Maine
Close,We share a border with Maine. We are in New Brunswick Canada.
just bought some right now for the mustang 😂
Yeah can't go wrong on the prices.
@over.rated4235 how they holding up? I just bought a set for my 16gt last night
@@hunterbrown4950did you get them how is it and where did you get them at
Any update?
@@hunterbrown4950how are the headers treating you i also have a 16 gt and wanted to know
how long did the entire install take you guys?
It's been a long time since we did it but probably 4-5 hours.
I’ve got the SE headers on my 2017 LT /L86 in my 67 c10 and noticed there is not much clearance between one of the passenger side tubes and my battery cable to starter connection. My starter connections face the header tubes. What starter did you use? Did you run into any issues with that?
Well these headers were designed for the 6th Gen Camaro so we didn't have any issues. As for what you would need I really couldn't say. But if you have enough room a heat shield could help along with heat reflective sleeves or tape on any wires exposed to heat. If there isn't enough room you could look at a Mini starter which are a fair bit smaller than a factory starter. The fact that you put a L86 in a 67 C10 is pretty damn cool. 👍
@@LSxMotorsports2021 thanks for the input. Here’s the truck:
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Do you need a tune after headers and mid pipe ? For the Camaro
Yes and no. It will start and run fine but it will set a check engine light because of the missing secondary O2 sensors and the missing cats. A proper tune will eliminate the check engine light and a experienced tuner will get you a few extra HP. But if you just want to run it after the headers until you are able to get it tuned then yes you can it will be fine it will just have the check engine light on. Now keep in mind my only experience is with a 2016 camaro. As cars get newer the manufacturers are getting more strict with their tunes so the worst case scenario is after a certain amount of time the car could go into reduced power mode. I don't think this will happen but it is a possibility. But you really should get a tune for it as soon as you can.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 ok thx i have a 2018 Camaro and i want to get the same headers and mid pipe, just wondering how what’s like the average for a tune for the Camaros ?
Well that I couldn't say. We don't have anyone local here to tune so we had to figure it out ourselves. Every shop would be different. Just check around your area to get some prices and definitely make sure whoever you get to do the tuning has a good reputation.
Free up that exhaust for more flow and horsepower 👍
Exactly.We may try to get some 1/4 mile times this weekend but his drag radials are pretty much wore out so I don't expect to set a new best.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 haha he's just enjoying that sound a little too much
Yeah he is happy with it
@@LSxMotorsports2021 that's the most important thing
So you have double x pipe now ?
No. We put on Speed engineering headers and used the factory muffler but everything in between was replaced with the Speed engineering dual 3" system. It has 1 Xpipe.
never rev a cold motor.
I agree. This was started and run awhile to check for leaks before we filmed it revving.
I’m a whole year late, hopefully you still respond but I’m considering buying this exact setup for my 2017 ss 8sp. Is it easy to Install? And how loud does it make the car? I’m hoping for a increase in sound like the Camaro in the vid i don’t wanna be disappointed lol
It was fairly easy to install. It's about the cheapest system available. And yes it is very loud. We have several videos on the channel of this car so you can hear it from many different situations. But be aware the camera doesn't really do it justice.......the sound echos alot.lol. But the sound is reasonable when just cruising around.
That’s exactly what I wanted to hear, I did a whole bunch of research and watching this vid for some background to get a good idea. One last thing, was the car in the vid a manual or auto? For the autos I needed to get a AFM simulator kit is that hard to install ?Hopefully when it gets to me I can slap it on real quick and sounds good on the road.
This car has the 8 speed automatic. We have HP tuners so we turned off AFM and any of the check engine codes and he manually shifts it 99% of the time anyways. I really think you will love this system if loud is what you want. I haven't checked the price recently but I know it was the cheapest option when we got it and it's all stainless so it's good quality.
Alright appreciate the input I think im gonna enjoy this setup for sure
How much power does it make
We don't know.The nearest dyno is..........I actually don't know where the nearest dyno is but it would be a long ways away from here.lol.But it runs between 119-121 mph in the 1/4 mile.It has traction issues so the 1/4 mile times run anywhere between 11.9 to 11.6.
Were those the 10 inch spark plug wires ? I bought some and idk if there going to fit just wondering
To be honest I don't remember.I will see if I can get in touch with him to see what brand they are.
He is not sure about the length but I see Speed engineering sells 10" plug wires for the LT1 so you should be good.
1@@LSxMotorsports2021 YEAH I HAVE A CAMARO LT1 2023. I HOPE IT FITS
@xxchrisgamerxx6850 I am pretty sure they will work.I checked the plug wires on my LS1 and they are pretty short.I don't think they are even 10" long.Pretty sure you will be good.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 I measured them they were a little bit longer then 10 it was like 11. that was all stretched out. you think it would fit with 10 inch?
So would it be alright to ride without a tune for a while?
If you're talking about driving without a tune after the headers and Xpipe then yeah it is fine.You will get a check engine light because the cats have been removed but it still runs fine.
You should put the x-pipe exhaust system on 2002 Camaro SS
Yeah I do.Mine has speed engineering true dual exhaust which also has an X-pipe.The two cars sound different but I think that's because the 2016 has VVT and the different gearing make it Rev much faster and it makes alot more power.lol.
Did you change the clamps? I didn't but was thinking about changing them out eventually
On my 2002 Camaro I had to change the clamps I couldn't stop the exhaust from leaking with the clamps that came with it.But on this 2016 camaro we used the clamps that came with the kit and have not had any issues so far.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 Nice thanks bro!! Car sounds great!!!!
You didn’t wrap them for heat?
No we didn't wrap them.
No problems so far? I’ve heard people say headers burn components like wires and other parts in the engine bay since they get hot
We haven't had any issues so far. And I have run headers on other cars with no issues. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't wrap them. Wrapping them can cut down on heat for sure. But they can be a pain to wrap and it doesn't always look that great. But if you're on the fence I would do a little searching on the Internet to see what the positive and negatives are of Wrapping headers. I have never done it myself so I really can't say. But I did choose to put ceramic coated headers on my 2002 Camaro.
@LSX Motorsports hey man I was wondering if the speed engineering headers and x pipe are worth it, I family drive my Camaro ss. I heard some really good really good reviews and I heard some bad reviews from tune shops they said they won’t fit right and they rattle and cause exhaust leaks and etc. So I was maybe hoping you could steer me in the right direction or something because I was going to get them into I started calling around for tuning shops so I’m kinda stuck right now
As far as price goes you can't beat them.They are probably the lowest cost system out there.They are made of stainless steel so they are made of quality materials.As far as fitment goes we installed them on the 2016 camaro ourselves and never had any problems with fitment.We got the 1 7/8 " headers.They do make a 2" header which I could see having fitment issues but 2" headers aren't needed in my opinion.As far as rattles and leaks we did not have any.But I did have issues with their dual exhaust on my 2002 camaro.It had tons of rattles and exhaust leaks but I changed all the claps with stepped band clamps from summit racing and that cured all the problems.But we didn't have any issues with leaks or rattles on the System we put on the 2016.So in my opinion if you get the 1 7/8 " headers and Xpipe the worst that could happen is you'll need to upgrade the clamps which will still be way cheaper that the other brands headers and Xpipe.So this is the experience we had.Even though I had to buy different clamps for my dual exhaust on the 2002 Camaro it was still about $1000 cheaper going with Speed engineering than if I went with the competition.I would much rather have that extra money in my pocket than be able to brag and say I have Kooks headers and Xpipe on my car.But that's just me.Good luck on whatever you decide to get.You will love the extra sound you get from whatever system you decide to go with.Thanks for watching and commenting we really appreciate it.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 is it daily driveable? Because I have a MBRP AXLEBACK
Oh yeah it's fine for a daily driver.It is loud when you get into the throttle but it's really not that bad when just cruising around and you still have the ability to run it in touring mode which quiets it down some.
@@LSxMotorsports2021 my car didn’t come with the NPP option i have a 2017 Camaro 2SS I had dual stock muffler when I first bought the car but I hated dual tips I switched out for the aftermarket MBRP quad tip exhaust
I have no experience with that exhaust so couldn't say how loud it would be with the headers and Xpipe but I am sure it would sound great.Just do a search on RUclips to find someone running that set up to see what they have to say about it.
Sheeeshh😬