I'm guessing the Thumbs down is from another putter manufacturer or someone who spent huge money on a putter that torques and twists off line and has to hate anything else to make themselves feel good about spending so much money.
Thank you for the recommendation... I bought one immediately after viewing your video. I've only had the Honu for a few days now, and I love it... I haven't got it on the course yet, but I have a small practice green in my backyard, and one in my basement, and my accuracy has definitely improved. It took a little experimenting to get the right setup and stroke, but once I figured it out, everything feel into place. I would highly recommend this baby... thanks for video!!
Thank you once again for an outstanding informational video. Personally, before I purchase clubs, I like to try them out. Whether or not it's a formal fitting. The Honu putter is very interesting. I did have a putter fitting this weekend. A Birthday gift to myself. I tried 7 different putters. Ping, LAB, Evnrol, Axis, Mizuno, Odyssey, and Scotty's. All Mallet,Half mallet or the thicker Blades. Out of all of those putters, I seemed to Hole the world with the Mizuno M-craft type 3. As i continued my fitting i found that i just had confidence when lining up and using the Mizuno. More so then even the LAB or Axis putters. I will keep Honu in mind in the future, and I will save your video as well as refer it to friends.
I’ve owned a Honu now for about 2 months. Initially I thought that I had found the crown jewel, however, my putting is no better than before. I’m back to my Bettinardi SS 28 Slotback. I might pick it back up later when the frustration subsides.
I purchased a Honu, put a Winnpro X 1.60 grip on it and I absolutely love to putt now. It's not hype, my score literally went down because my misses are closer and I'm holing more putts than ever. Plus the feel of the putter hitting the ball is just fantastic. I forgot how good it felt like to hit a golf ball with wood. It took a week or two to adjust my stroke and stance, but once I did, it was just magic. What I get a kick out of, is when I play with others, their first reaction is "wtf is that thing". By the end of the round after I smoke everyone on the green, their like, "can I try that".
I have another suggestion for a putting video. How does a dominate eye effect your putting stroke. I am right handed and right eye dominate and have noticed that at times my right eye will cause me to open my shoulders slightly resulting in a missed putt to the left. I don't realize it until its to late. Keep the great videos coming, thank you
Same with me. I tend to open my stance to get a good view from ball to cup. I notice that I grip my putter with my lright hand just before impact. So I am trying to lessen my grip with the right hand.
Mister One Putt, great review. I knew that putters twisted and have tried to figure out how to compensate for this twisting for years. Now with both the Honu and L.A.B putters this issue seems to have been readdressed. Looking back at history it appears that there may have been several other smaller manufactures who have attempted and patented similar designs. One is Positive Putters - Target Line Balanced Putters, Thanks for the reviews.
Yes, there have been several like Positive and others who got near the torque free. I think YAR Putters actually did it by accident and then stopped being sold because the inventor was shady...If I can get my hands on a Yar putter I plan to do a video on the whole story...its very interesting.
@@misteroneputt I have of heard of YAR putters but never saw one in person. The revealer unit that you use was supposedly invented by the folks at Positive and patented, However the patented expired years ago. As has several of their other patents. It s great topic that you have touched on. Keep up the great videos. On a side note I noticed that you position the ball back in your stance when putting. I tried this with interesting results. My question is what are the benefits of placing the ball back in the stance when putting?
@@randywolf4731 I put it a little behind center because my right hand is dominant and my left is only on the putter as a brace. I also keep about 70 % of my weight on the right foot so the low point in my stroke is more towards the back...you want your ball position just forward of your low point and the low point is relative to your weight...if my weight was evenly distributed I'd play the ball just forward of center. No advantages for position except just forward of low point creates the best angle to get the ball rolling vs. launching or digging and bouncing.
@@malachi2371 Yes and no. If you get personally fitted an Edel will be torque free with that stroke...if you ever fail to make the same stroke with which you were fit, torque enters the equation. Edel is very good but they achieve the torque free system by custom fitting and removing weight from the toe and adding it to the heel and to the handle..its great for pros who make the same stroke every time and never change their putting style. Not so much for the rest of us.
Hello Misteroneputt, my friend want to know if the Honu putter conform to USGA golf equipment rule? He will go for some tournament, he want to be sure he won’t get question using the Honu putter?
@@misteroneputt Will they have any certificate or paper to back it up in case we got question from the tournament committee? I don’t want to be complicated and my friend really want to buy one since I am using it. He want to be 100% sure it is USGA conforming. TKs
Do have a comparison video or head to head against the lab direct force putter? Pros/cons? I live in Hawaii Oahu but don’t really like the look of this putter. I love supporting local but think i like the look of the lab putter better(also not that pretty). Also is the grip forward pressed similar to the lab?
I appreciate the review, I wish you'd have demonstrated the Mizz1 or Mizz Max both LAB putters, i'm afraid Bamboo will not stand up to daily use. i'd love to try it, but once you add $28.00 for shipping it's over 400.00.. i'm torn
I don’t think the mezz was available yet when I did this but I own a DF 2 and it’s my second choice to the Honu. The Honu is made from recycled, bamboo flooring and hand made by a surfboard craftsman so it’s plenty durable. I don’t have any troubles or even significant signs of wear from the one that I play 3 to 4 days a week and often more. That said. I do understand it is a legitimate concern as well as cost.
It's a strange looking beast.. but it works like magic.. haven't even been out on the course yet but indoor putting at 10' has improved ?? 500%. I'm not exaggerating.. The new KOTAHI grip makes even more strange looking but WOW! Initially I'll take some crap for it from my group but IDC it works in my head and body. Strange feeling after 50+ years of poor putting they're going straight.. MrOP> TY
Hi mister, do you have guide for the honu putter? I got my for a month now, but still find a comfortable setup. Bc the shaft is in the middle, and the face is so far up front. Do you line up the shaft in the middle of the stand or you line up the face middle of the stand? What is the correct way to use this putter?
I line up to the BALL and not to the putter. I set up so that my dominant eye (right eye for me) is just inside and just behind the ball. Then the putter face and shaft are in the proper position and my hands are pretty much over the ball. Try lining up to the BALL with your eye position and let the putter face and shaft be where they are. Once you have that down you can tweak your set up and ball position slightly so that you get the ball rolling sooner. There's a video on the channel on "Rolling" puts where I walk through this. Hope this helps.
@@misteroneputt thank you, i will look this vid up. but if you setup to the ball, the putter will have a lean shaft and a negative face. doesn't that defeat the tech of the honu putter? because that forcing the putter out of neutral position ?
@@Eqnotalent The Honu is set up with a rotation angle which keeps the face neutral...Ive not experience a negative face angle,. I tested this this morning with a standard off the shelf Honu and one that is custom fitted to me and did not have this issue. Sam readings show face at 0 with both. I suspect the uniqueness of the Honu makes it look different at set up and perhaps you are over thinking it. Maybe not...but I remember when I first tried the Honu it felt awkward and I had to experiment with ball position and set up.
Thanks...I had to experiment with ball position about 10 minutes to get the ball rolling as smoothly as I wanted...I ended up settled on very slightly forward of where I was with my previous putter. My suggestion is start with hands even with the ball and then tweak it until you are comfortable and happy. Also, if you do a video or an in person fitting the shaft rotation (forward press) can be set to exactly where you want it. I reviewed their standard model and then did a fitting for myself which resulted in a few very minor changes to be absolutely perfect for me.
The forward press angle is one of the fitting parameters. The standard setup puts the hands right at the face, because that is what a lot of people are accustomed to. It can be changed for people that like to "drag" the putter (more forward press) or "throw" (less forward press). My personal putter is set up for armlock-style putting, with quite a lot of forward press so the shaft follows the line of my left forearm to a ball position in front of my nose. It is tricky to give a single answer to the ball position question, because there is so much variety in the ways that different people hold the club, their weight distribution, eye dominance, etc. In a fitting, what we try to do is adjust the putter to match the golfer's existing setup. If you have an existing Honu putter and must adjust to it, the technique is to set it flat on the ground (the center bottom of the putter is flat and perpendicular to the face) and have someone hold it there. Then "wrap your body around the putter" until your hands and arms feel comfortable and your body feels balanced. That is the ball position for optimum roll.
The amount of forward press (scientifically called rotational angle) is designed to ensure the equator of the ball strikes the equator of the putter (a nice feature from HONU!) If you play the ball in the center of our stance a rotational angle of 10 is great, more toward your forward foot 5, off your forward foot 0, if back of center 15. This is a feature on the HONU site one can choose in a drop box in their ordering area, a brilliant feature actually. PS.I have found a miss fit HONU seems to go better than any fitted putter anyhow. But might as well choose to make it spot on. Their default is 10 but you can choose other specs at no charge. NICE.
I noticed in your video about the Directed Force putter that you said it was going in your bag. At what point did you switch to the Honu putter and why you chose it over the Directed Force putter.
I had and used the directed force for about 2.5 months before I was invited to try a Honu. Functionally in terms of resisting twisting during the stroke and being balanced they are almost identical. I chose the Honu simply because the bamboo "feels" better and I'm convinced that helps me control distance better. Feel is hard to quantify, but it is undeniably real when I stroke the ball,.
how is the sturdiness of the Honu being made of bamboo vs metal? Also, how do they get the face super flat (which is believe is why there are milled putters and face inserts)?
The sturdiness is great. The Bamboo is very durable for putting and doesn't wear. The putter heads are hand crafted one at a time by a Master Surfboard Craftsman and he uses wood working tools to make them completely smooth and flat with zero loft. Face milling and inserts are not exactly flat, but that is not their purpose. Face milling and inserts are intended to reduce the amount of metal that strikes the ball so that the putter fells soft and you can actually control the speed better. The Bamboo does that naturally.
Ron...awesome...You will love it. I carry the Honu in my bag and play it exclusively. I think other companies don't make torque free putters because the designs are patented and there are limited ways to design a torque free putter. That is why Axis 1 and Edel are doing things to reduce torque as much as possible by taking weight out of the toe and adding it to the shaft and handle in an effort to reduce torque...this requires a unique putter fitting for each individual swing. Other companies are working on similar ideas...Then the market has to accept the fact that a better putter looks different too.
Yes, I tested both a Cure RX1 and an RX5...they both wobbled and twisted like everything else...Actually think there is video of the Cure in my L.A.B. Directed Force Review. That said, I really like my Cures....They thing is a high MOI keeps the putter from twisting AFTER impact...that's too late. The ball isn't on the putter face long enough for any twisting caused by off center impact to affect the ball--its already gone. Keeping the face square to impact is key.
The standard Honu Grip is very good. It's up to your personal preference. I use the jumbo kotahi grip but that is specifically because I grip the putter with a more underneath style and the Kotahi grip is designed for that purpose. The standard Honu Grip is a quality option though.
Shaft angle, Lie Angle, Rotation angle and Length. The shaft is drilled and inserted at an angle that fits your body size, type and stance so that the putter sits properly and square to the line at address. The rotation angle is measured to have your hands in proper position relative to the ball at address. Their off the shelf standard is a great fit for about 85% of golfers and better than most anything else. But, if you play the ball forward or back in your stance or you are above average tall or short or your arms are a little longer or shorter than average, etc a custom fitting is best. BTW, a fitting costs nothing, and adds no cost to your putter. I do Honu fittings by video all the time and in person as well.
@@misteroneputt Thanks again. I was watching your other videos where you talked about MOI. The putter’s ranged from ~1,800 to ~18,000 MOI. Is there any data on Honu putter? Does the Honu putter have zero loft or is that part of the fitting process? Thank you.
@@malachi2371 Honu does have zero loft. The MOI is weirdly zero on the Honu. MOI as it relates to putters is a measurement of resistance to twisting off line. The putter does not twist off line so there is no resistance to it...you could also say the MOI is infinity...there simply isn't anything to measure...I'm sure an engineer could say it better but that's the concept.
They are only made in Bamboo...actually from recycled bamboo flooring by hand by a surfboard maker....probably could get one with some food stains though...LOL
Hi Barber. In my opinion and experience, the Honu performs much better than my Cure RX5. It's the feel and balance and the fact that it stays square as I show in this video and others that make such a huge difference
The standard comes in any length between 33-36 inches The standard lie angle for Honu is a 21 which equates to 70 degrees. If you are considering buying a Honu email me. They have a video fitting system that is accurate and costs you nothing
I just tested one in the device today. It does twist less than most other putters but it still twists and torques some. In my observation it's about as stable as an Axis 1 or an Edel, but not zero torque like Directed Force or Honu.
New Putters get introduced to Tour Pros by companies who dedicate a marketing budget to paying a pro to use their putter. Honu is a small local company in Maui, The putter heads are made from recycled bamboo flooring and handcrafted by a surfboard craftsman in a small shop. Honu doesn't have the budget to sponsor a tour pro. And if they did, the number of orders would instantly exceed the supply of recycled bamboo flooring and the surfboard craftsman's ability to make them. The L.A.B. putters are made in a factory from aircraft aluminum. The concept and science is the same with Honu and L.A.B. The only critical difference is the aluminum vs. bamboo. I prefer Honu because I get a better feel and distance control with the softer feeling Bamboo. You do see tour pros using L.A.B. That said, there are several dozen PGA club Pros around the country who use a Honu. Good and fair question
@@misteroneputt thanks for response… I just wonder if any professionals have seen the Honu. I would think if a putter “even an odd/different putter help a pro make more putts and win more money/tourney’s then I would think they would want to use it because it works and not need to be sponsored. I def think face balanced/torque free is where putters are going… for sure. Thanks for the videos! Really enjoy the putting tips!
Appreciate your content but your "The Revealer" experiment feels misguided. It looks like a heel shafted Scotty that's made to help a putter get their club-faced closed, so it's doing what it's supposed to isn't it? So wobbling it back and forth rapidly when it's meant to get the toe through the stroke more easily is going to make it seem like it "twists all over the place". The balance of the Honu is cool for straight back and straight forward strokes but not everyone has that stroke naturally. The rapid back and the forward stroke again is meaningless, we're not balancing a car engine - you go through once. The point of a heel shafted putter is to close the club face for an arc stroke, so it spinning around in "The Revealer" seems to prove it's efficacy with your stroke - which is why a center shafted putter works so well for you. I think that tool is probably utilized to see if someone has a wider or shallower arc on their putting stroke and would "reveal" if they should have a heel-shafted, offset, or center-shafted putter as you'd hope the club face is square to the hole after a single stroke with it. I'm a high-handicapper so I'm likely wrong but it seems like your stroke doesn't match the toe weight as well as a face-balanced butter, all of the clubs fly wide open on your initial backswing. The Scotty seems to have the most weight and spins around inside, the PXG rotates wildly but seems less toe heavy as it never rotates fully, the Bettinardi actually seems to reset pretty well. Sorry for the essay, just a thought, I think the example is a little off-base and ignores some stroke path thoughts.
Your thoughts are correct...I used the only Scotty I own in this video. That said, I have let many others put many different Scotty's in the revealer and the results are all the same.
Done...notice video going up today recorded in 30 mph wind that blew over a tripod, but the sound quality remains awesome...It's been a learning process.
@@misteroneputt have you hear of the big-o putter from 1 iron golf. it suppose to the same as honu putter without that wood look. and not the $359 price tag.
@@Eqnotalent The Big O is $249 vs. the Honu at $330, $310 after the discount code I give you is applied. I will try and do a review of the Big O. It is not the same in design or function as the Honu or the Directed Force putter. They both are designed to stay on line and not twist during the stroke. They are both centered shafted which improves feel in scientifically documented ways. The Big O adds weight to the grip for balance and it might work...but it isn't anything near the same as a Honu in terms or design...might get similar results. I will find one to review.
See Mister One Putt's FIRE dance moves at the 9:30 mark! Hahahahahaha...
I'm guessing the Thumbs down is from another putter manufacturer or someone who spent huge money on a putter that torques and twists off line and has to hate anything else to make themselves feel good about spending so much money.
Thank you for the recommendation... I bought one immediately after viewing your video. I've only had the Honu for a few days now, and I love it... I haven't got it on the course yet, but I have a small practice green in my backyard, and one in my basement, and my accuracy has definitely improved. It took a little experimenting to get the right setup and stroke, but once I figured it out, everything feel into place. I would highly recommend this baby... thanks for video!!
Thank you once again for an outstanding informational video. Personally, before I purchase clubs, I like to try them out. Whether or not it's a formal fitting. The Honu putter is very interesting. I did have a putter fitting this weekend. A Birthday gift to myself. I tried 7 different putters. Ping, LAB, Evnrol, Axis, Mizuno, Odyssey, and Scotty's. All Mallet,Half mallet or the thicker Blades. Out of all of those putters, I seemed to Hole the world with the Mizuno M-craft type 3. As i continued my fitting i found that i just had confidence when lining up and using the Mizuno. More so then even the LAB or Axis putters. I will keep Honu in mind in the future, and I will save your video as well as refer it to friends.
THE M-Craft 3 is an awesome putter as well. And confidence in your putter is huge. Thanks for the compliments
I’ve owned a Honu now for about 2 months. Initially I thought that I had found the crown jewel, however, my putting is no better than before. I’m back to my Bettinardi SS 28 Slotback. I might pick it back up later when the frustration subsides.
This game is very frustrating at times...every time I think I have it figured out...I don't
Glad I caught this video. I was thinking about a Lab Putter.
I purchased a Honu, put a Winnpro X 1.60 grip on it and I absolutely love to putt now. It's not hype, my score literally went down because my misses are closer and I'm holing more putts than ever. Plus the feel of the putter hitting the ball is just fantastic. I forgot how good it felt like to hit a golf ball with wood. It took a week or two to adjust my stroke and stance, but once I did, it was just magic. What I get a kick out of, is when I play with others, their first reaction is "wtf is that thing". By the end of the round after I smoke everyone on the green, their like, "can I try that".
I get the same reaction from people
I have another suggestion for a putting video. How does a dominate eye effect your putting stroke. I am right handed and right eye dominate and have noticed that at times my right eye will cause me to open my shoulders slightly resulting in a missed putt to the left. I don't realize it until its to late. Keep the great videos coming, thank you
Same with me. I tend to open my stance to get a good view from ball to cup. I notice that I grip my putter with my lright hand just before impact. So I am trying to lessen my grip with the right hand.
Was waiting for this one with high expectations! Will watch ASAP!
Mister One Putt, great review. I knew that putters twisted and have tried to figure out how to compensate for this twisting for years. Now with both the Honu and L.A.B putters this issue seems to have been readdressed. Looking back at history it appears that there may have been several other smaller manufactures who have attempted and patented similar designs. One is Positive Putters - Target Line Balanced Putters, Thanks for the reviews.
Yes, there have been several like Positive and others who got near the torque free. I think YAR Putters actually did it by accident and then stopped being sold because the inventor was shady...If I can get my hands on a Yar putter I plan to do a video on the whole story...its very interesting.
@@misteroneputt I have of heard of YAR putters but never saw one in person. The revealer unit that you use was supposedly invented by the folks at Positive and patented, However the patented expired years ago. As has several of their other patents. It s great topic that you have touched on. Keep up the great videos.
On a side note I noticed that you position the ball back in your stance when putting. I tried this with interesting results. My question is what are the benefits of placing the ball back in the stance when putting?
@@randywolf4731 I put it a little behind center because my right hand is dominant and my left is only on the putter as a brace. I also keep about 70 % of my weight on the right foot so the low point in my stroke is more towards the back...you want your ball position just forward of your low point and the low point is relative to your weight...if my weight was evenly distributed I'd play the ball just forward of center. No advantages for position except just forward of low point creates the best angle to get the ball rolling vs. launching or digging and bouncing.
It seem like Edel makes a torque less putter.
@@malachi2371 Yes and no. If you get personally fitted an Edel will be torque free with that stroke...if you ever fail to make the same stroke with which you were fit, torque enters the equation. Edel is very good but they achieve the torque free system by custom fitting and removing weight from the toe and adding it to the heel and to the handle..its great for pros who make the same stroke every time and never change their putting style. Not so much for the rest of us.
Hello Misteroneputt, my friend want to know if the Honu putter conform to USGA golf equipment rule? He will go for some tournament, he want to be sure he won’t get question using the Honu putter?
Yes it does
@@misteroneputt Will they have any certificate or paper to back it up in case we got question from the tournament committee? I don’t want to be complicated and my friend really want to buy one since I am using it. He want to be 100% sure it is USGA conforming. TKs
Do have a comparison video or head to head against the lab direct force putter? Pros/cons? I live in Hawaii Oahu but don’t really like the look of this putter. I love supporting local but think i like the look of the lab putter better(also not that pretty). Also is the grip forward pressed similar to the lab?
I actually don't but the inventor of the Honu did one...email me and I will send it to you. john@mr1putt.com
I appreciate the review, I wish you'd have demonstrated the Mizz1 or Mizz Max both LAB putters, i'm afraid Bamboo will not stand up to daily use. i'd love to try it, but once you add $28.00 for shipping it's over 400.00.. i'm torn
I don’t think the mezz was available yet when I did this but I own a DF 2 and it’s my second choice to the Honu. The Honu is made from recycled, bamboo flooring and hand made by a surfboard craftsman so it’s plenty durable. I don’t have any troubles or even significant signs of wear from the one that I play 3 to 4 days a week and often more. That said. I do understand it is a legitimate concern as well as cost.
It's a strange looking beast.. but it works like magic.. haven't even been out on the course yet but indoor putting at 10' has improved ?? 500%. I'm not exaggerating.. The new KOTAHI grip makes even more strange looking but WOW! Initially I'll take some crap for it from my group but IDC it works in my head and body. Strange feeling after 50+ years of poor putting they're going straight.. MrOP> TY
The jokes from other players stop when you’re making putts…
Hi mister, do you have guide for the honu putter? I got my for a month now, but still find a comfortable setup. Bc the shaft is in the middle, and the face is so far up front. Do you line up the shaft in the middle of the stand or you line up the face middle of the stand? What is the correct way to use this putter?
I line up to the BALL and not to the putter. I set up so that my dominant eye (right eye for me) is just inside and just behind the ball. Then the putter face and shaft are in the proper position and my hands are pretty much over the ball. Try lining up to the BALL with your eye position and let the putter face and shaft be where they are. Once you have that down you can tweak your set up and ball position slightly so that you get the ball rolling sooner. There's a video on the channel on "Rolling" puts where I walk through this. Hope this helps.
@@misteroneputt thank you, i will look this vid up. but if you setup to the ball, the putter will have a lean shaft and a negative face. doesn't that defeat the tech of the honu putter? because that forcing the putter out of neutral position ?
@@Eqnotalent The Honu is set up with a rotation angle which keeps the face neutral...Ive not experience a negative face angle,. I tested this this morning with a standard off the shelf Honu and one that is custom fitted to me and did not have this issue. Sam readings show face at 0 with both. I suspect the uniqueness of the Honu makes it look different at set up and perhaps you are over thinking it. Maybe not...but I remember when I first tried the Honu it felt awkward and I had to experiment with ball position and set up.
Great information on this Honu putter. With the forward press built in with this putter, where should you address the ball in your stance? Thx
Thanks...I had to experiment with ball position about 10 minutes to get the ball rolling as smoothly as I wanted...I ended up settled on very slightly forward of where I was with my previous putter. My suggestion is start with hands even with the ball and then tweak it until you are comfortable and happy. Also, if you do a video or an in person fitting the shaft rotation (forward press) can be set to exactly where you want it. I reviewed their standard model and then did a fitting for myself which resulted in a few very minor changes to be absolutely perfect for me.
Thx for your quick reply. I’ve had mine for a couple of weeks and it’s been hit and miss. I will give your recommendation’s a try.
The forward press angle is one of the fitting parameters. The standard setup puts the hands right at the face, because that is what a lot of people are accustomed to. It can be changed for people that like to "drag" the putter (more forward press) or "throw" (less forward press). My personal putter is set up for armlock-style putting, with quite a lot of forward press so the shaft follows the line of my left forearm to a ball position in front of my nose.
It is tricky to give a single answer to the ball position question, because there is so much variety in the ways that different people hold the club, their weight distribution, eye dominance, etc. In a fitting, what we try to do is adjust the putter to match the golfer's existing setup. If you have an existing Honu putter and must adjust to it, the technique is to set it flat on the ground (the center bottom of the putter is flat and perpendicular to the face) and have someone hold it there. Then "wrap your body around the putter" until your hands and arms feel comfortable and your body feels balanced. That is the ball position for optimum roll.
The amount of forward press (scientifically called rotational angle) is designed to ensure the equator of the ball strikes the equator of the putter (a nice feature from HONU!) If you play the ball in the center of our stance a rotational angle of 10 is great, more toward your forward foot 5, off your forward foot 0, if back of center 15. This is a feature on the HONU site one can choose in a drop box in their ordering area, a brilliant feature actually. PS.I have found a miss fit HONU seems to go better than any fitted putter anyhow. But might as well choose to make it spot on. Their default is 10 but you can choose other specs at no charge. NICE.
Thanks for the great info @@mattflenniken3981
I noticed in your video about the Directed Force putter that you said it was going in your bag. At what point did you switch to the Honu putter and why you chose it over the Directed Force putter.
I had and used the directed force for about 2.5 months before I was invited to try a Honu. Functionally in terms of resisting twisting during the stroke and being balanced they are almost identical. I chose the Honu simply because the bamboo "feels" better and I'm convinced that helps me control distance better. Feel is hard to quantify, but it is undeniably real when I stroke the ball,.
When comes the test of the new sqaure putters of Odessa
@@marioweemaes9503 I’m just planning that
Where can you order a Honu putter?
www.honugolf.com. use discount code JohnE20 to save $20
how is the sturdiness of the Honu being made of bamboo vs metal? Also, how do they get the face super flat (which is believe is why there are milled putters and face inserts)?
The sturdiness is great. The Bamboo is very durable for putting and doesn't wear. The putter heads are hand crafted one at a time by a Master Surfboard Craftsman and he uses wood working tools to make them completely smooth and flat with zero loft. Face milling and inserts are not exactly flat, but that is not their purpose. Face milling and inserts are intended to reduce the amount of metal that strikes the ball so that the putter fells soft and you can actually control the speed better. The Bamboo does that naturally.
Another splendid video!!
Does the standard Honu putter stand up all on it's own? Anybody? Thx.
No it is not a stand up on it's own putter...in theory you could custom order one that did, but your stance over the ball would be very upright
@@misteroneputt Thanks... Just about ready to buy one.
Mr John, I would like to make an appointment for a Hanu fitting. I will be Vegas from June16 to June 23. Is it possible to see you then.?
Great talking to you yesterday. All set for when you are here in June.
Thank you love the content keep it up.
Thank you Mark
Just ordered mine! Is the Honu putter in your bag now? Why don’t you think the other putter companies manufacture torque free putters?
Ron...awesome...You will love it. I carry the Honu in my bag and play it exclusively. I think other companies don't make torque free putters because the designs are patented and there are limited ways to design a torque free putter. That is why Axis 1 and Edel are doing things to reduce torque as much as possible by taking weight out of the toe and adding it to the shaft and handle in an effort to reduce torque...this requires a unique putter fitting for each individual swing. Other companies are working on similar ideas...Then the market has to accept the fact that a better putter looks different too.
Curious if you tested the Cure RX putter in The Revealer test and if so, how that performed?
Yes, I tested both a Cure RX1 and an RX5...they both wobbled and twisted like everything else...Actually think there is video of the Cure in my L.A.B. Directed Force Review. That said, I really like my Cures....They thing is a high MOI keeps the putter from twisting AFTER impact...that's too late. The ball isn't on the putter face long enough for any twisting caused by off center impact to affect the ball--its already gone. Keeping the face square to impact is key.
The code when we buy is :discount code in video description right or false
Alain Jacob
The discount code JohnE20 is in the video description
On the Honu putter, which grip should you get.
The standard Honu Grip is very good. It's up to your personal preference. I use the jumbo kotahi grip but that is specifically because I grip the putter with a more underneath style and the Kotahi grip is designed for that purpose. The standard Honu Grip is a quality option though.
Mister One Putt, since it seems like you can’t shift anything on this putter what exactly is one getting fitted for? Length?
Shaft angle, Lie Angle, Rotation angle and Length. The shaft is drilled and inserted at an angle that fits your body size, type and stance so that the putter sits properly and square to the line at address. The rotation angle is measured to have your hands in proper position relative to the ball at address. Their off the shelf standard is a great fit for about 85% of golfers and better than most anything else. But, if you play the ball forward or back in your stance or you are above average tall or short or your arms are a little longer or shorter than average, etc a custom fitting is best. BTW, a fitting costs nothing, and adds no cost to your putter. I do Honu fittings by video all the time and in person as well.
@@misteroneputt Thanks again! When I’m ready to get fitted, should I contact you through the website or is this the appropriate way?
@@malachi2371 email me at john@mr1putt.com
@@misteroneputt Thanks again. I was watching your other videos where you talked about MOI. The putter’s ranged from ~1,800 to ~18,000 MOI. Is there any data on Honu putter?
Does the Honu putter have zero loft or is that part of the fitting process?
Thank you.
@@malachi2371 Honu does have zero loft. The MOI is weirdly zero on the Honu. MOI as it relates to putters is a measurement of resistance to twisting off line. The putter does not twist off line so there is no resistance to it...you could also say the MOI is infinity...there simply isn't anything to measure...I'm sure an engineer could say it better but that's the concept.
Great video! Keep um coming.
Can I get one in coconut?
They are only made in Bamboo...actually from recycled bamboo flooring by hand by a surfboard maker....probably could get one with some food stains though...LOL
How can I order one? Amazon doesn’t have it on website.
Www.Honu golf.com. Information and discount code in video description. Not available on Amazon
Is this Honu putter better than your Cure RX5 heavy putter based on your experience on them? Thanks
Hi Barber. In my opinion and experience, the Honu performs much better than my Cure RX5. It's the feel and balance and the fact that it stays square as I show in this video and others that make such a huge difference
@@misteroneputt Thanks so much! Was thinking of getting Cure putter until I saw your vid about Honu. Cheers from Canada🍻
Do you still ever play at chimera would you ever give a lesson? On putting I reconginze the course from your plumb bob video
I do play at Chimera...in fact I think I'm scheduled there in 2 weeks...yes would gladly give a lesson. Email me at john@mr1putt.com
Got my Honu yesterday in Ebony with white alignment line awesome ans sexy!
What length and lie are the standard honus?
The standard comes in any length between 33-36 inches The standard lie angle for Honu is a 21 which equates to 70 degrees. If you are considering buying a Honu email me. They have a video fitting system that is accurate and costs you nothing
How does odyssey backstryke do with that device?
I just tested one in the device today. It does twist less than most other putters but it still twists and torques some. In my observation it's about as stable as an Axis 1 or an Edel, but not zero torque like Directed Force or Honu.
Part of a crutch will work
wow just checked your Honu putter and its very expensive at $395.
@@bournefree yes they are a little pricey
Why aren’t Pro’s using Honu?
New Putters get introduced to Tour Pros by companies who dedicate a marketing budget to paying a pro to use their putter. Honu is a small local company in Maui, The putter heads are made from recycled bamboo flooring and handcrafted by a surfboard craftsman in a small shop. Honu doesn't have the budget to sponsor a tour pro. And if they did, the number of orders would instantly exceed the supply of recycled bamboo flooring and the surfboard craftsman's ability to make them. The L.A.B. putters are made in a factory from aircraft aluminum. The concept and science is the same with Honu and L.A.B. The only critical difference is the aluminum vs. bamboo. I prefer Honu because I get a better feel and distance control with the softer feeling Bamboo. You do see tour pros using L.A.B. That said, there are several dozen PGA club Pros around the country who use a Honu.
Good and fair question
@@misteroneputt thanks for response… I just wonder if any professionals have seen the Honu. I would think if a putter “even an odd/different putter help a pro make more putts and win more money/tourney’s then I would think they would want to use it because it works and not need to be sponsored. I def think face balanced/torque free is where putters are going… for sure. Thanks for the videos! Really enjoy the putting tips!
How do I get one
Go to honugolf.com and when you order enter discount code JohnE 20 and you will save $20 and they pay me a small referral fee.
Appreciate your content but your "The Revealer" experiment feels misguided.
It looks like a heel shafted Scotty that's made to help a putter get their club-faced closed, so it's doing what it's supposed to isn't it? So wobbling it back and forth rapidly when it's meant to get the toe through the stroke more easily is going to make it seem like it "twists all over the place". The balance of the Honu is cool for straight back and straight forward strokes but not everyone has that stroke naturally. The rapid back and the forward stroke again is meaningless, we're not balancing a car engine - you go through once. The point of a heel shafted putter is to close the club face for an arc stroke, so it spinning around in "The Revealer" seems to prove it's efficacy with your stroke - which is why a center shafted putter works so well for you. I think that tool is probably utilized to see if someone has a wider or shallower arc on their putting stroke and would "reveal" if they should have a heel-shafted, offset, or center-shafted putter as you'd hope the club face is square to the hole after a single stroke with it.
I'm a high-handicapper so I'm likely wrong but it seems like your stroke doesn't match the toe weight as well as a face-balanced butter, all of the clubs fly wide open on your initial backswing. The Scotty seems to have the most weight and spins around inside, the PXG rotates wildly but seems less toe heavy as it never rotates fully, the Bettinardi actually seems to reset pretty well.
Sorry for the essay, just a thought, I think the example is a little off-base and ignores some stroke path thoughts.
Your thoughts are correct...I used the only Scotty I own in this video. That said, I have let many others put many different Scotty's in the revealer and the results are all the same.
I love what your doing. Please invest in a better microphone.
Done...notice video going up today recorded in 30 mph wind that blew over a tripod, but the sound quality remains awesome...It's been a learning process.
Given that putter is made of wood, can only assume that alot of weight is aded to head
That’s the purpose of the brass ring. Mine weighs 350 g in their adjustable to various weights.
Do u think this is the best putter on the market now?
I do...The technology prevents torquing and the ball doesn't wobble. My opinion it is the best putter out there.
@@misteroneputt have you hear of the big-o putter from 1 iron golf. it suppose to the same as honu putter without that wood look. and not the $359 price tag.
@@Eqnotalent The Big O is $249 vs. the Honu at $330, $310 after the discount code I give you is applied. I will try and do a review of the Big O. It is not the same in design or function as the Honu or the Directed Force putter. They both are designed to stay on line and not twist during the stroke. They are both centered shafted which improves feel in scientifically documented ways. The Big O adds weight to the grip for balance and it might work...but it isn't anything near the same as a Honu in terms or design...might get similar results. I will find one to review.
HE PUT A HONU IN THE REVEALER
Seemed like a fair test...Honu has a similar tool called the Honuizer that works the same way...