Since I started watching your videos my putting has improved. I feel much more confident my setup is right and all I have to do is make a straight putt.
Great information! Thanks for the video. Also I love Rhodes!! Haven't been out since fall hit and it started getting cooler but I might have to get out there soon. Maybe I'll see you. Have a good one.
Hello, I'm watching several more videos again today and continue to absorb the information like a sponge. During this tutorial, the demonstrations reminded me of the way Bryson DeChambeau putts with the long putter shaft anchored to his stiffened forearm while only moving his shoulders. Do you like his posture and form!
@@TomahawkMark843 it’s hard not to like his posture and form based purely on his success. That said most people cannot practice as much as he does and don’t have the skill that he does. I simply like people to move the putter out of their fingers and even out of their palm up towards the pad of their hand under their thumb which automatically makes the wrist and forearm straight in line with the putter shaft, no matter what type of putter or style you use.
Shoulda explained swing arc. Basic fundamental kinda stuff. You grazed over tiger doing it but there is a slight arc. I’d like to hear what you have to say about the arc.
@@justinporter8789 there is always a slight arc but golfers go wrong when they start thinking about it. It’s natural because of the way your body is made the way your shoulders rotate, and the way that the club is shafted. So I prefer to have people think about moving the Putter back and through and keeping the face square but will arc naturally, but you don’t have to think about it or focus on it or try to do it and certainly not try to prevent it. It’s all about face square at impact and holding the finish in my opinion.
I hate it when I see people with their finger down the shaft, but I am smart enough to know to say nothing as people are so attached to their own putting. I am considered one of the best putters at my club, which people say but they don't want to put in the time to get better. Nothing in golf is certain, but for sure you will not get better at putting if you don't practice and if you don't have a putting methodology.
I used to have my finger down the shaft because it felt good...recently changed because I learned it was causing problems. And you are right to say nothing. I don't ever offer advice on the course unless I'm asked.
I'm sure these tips may work for some folks, and others they may not. There are so many golf videos out there today and lots of them provide conflicting information. If you watch the pros they all have slightly different components to their swings and putting styles. Everyone is different. Years ago before we had the internet and RUclips, people used to buy golf magazines for their tips and lessons. I was taking a lesson from a PGA pro and he told me not to pay too much attention to those magazine lessons. He said that you need to identify the swing flaw first before you can apply the solution. Applying techniques that you see in videos without knowing if it's what you really need could exacerbate the problem. It's always best to work with a qualified professional that can give you what you need to identify and fix YOUR flaws. I'm sure misteroneputt's tips may work for some folks watching this, but it's going to be trial and error.
@@stevel6895 That is true of any RUclips video and is a flaw of modern teaching. Your comment is almost the script for a video I posted a while back on what’s wrong with RUclips golf instruction…used that video as a launch for my online course “How to Putt the right way” where I teach the fundamentals from the very beginning instead of starting with something in the middle and trying to correct swing flaws that may or may not exist.
For you and all others who talk ball position, the front view is impossible for viewer to actually tell where the ball is in relation to lead foot. I notice this with driver too where instructors talk about the ball being off the lead heel but to the viewer it looks more toward the center of stance. Need to use an alignment stick or other so we actual see what you mean.
Just noticed that you bend your knees so that your thighs are at the same angle as your arms and shaft. I stand straight legged and bend over so my eyes are on top of the ball. Am I wrong?
Doesn't matter. It is repeatability that is most crucial and productive. The human brain is most respondent to repetition you can stand on your head and putt and if you repeat your stroke the same every time, you will be a good putter. DO WHAT YOU CAN REPEAT and adjust your alignment from there.
@@X11-g9b certainly true and there are lots of videos on this channel about repeatability and consistency. You are right. I’m pointing out here mistakes that cause people to struggle with consistency
what do you call a successful putting round? 30 putts over 18 holes, 25 putts over 18 holes. From what distance , when putting from 30 foot, you are not one putting those shots. if you are missing 3 and 4 foot putts, then yes you have an issue. if you are making 90% of those putts, then it is doubtful you have any issues.
@@Sallyweber-g2r my goal is always to be under 30 putts and no 3 putt greens. But you are right about 3-4 footers. I also measure strokes gained putting and strive for a gain instead of a loss
@@donsmnc5319 yes probably. My putter is the same functionally as a lab golf putter. The biggest difference is mine is made by a company that uses recycled bamboo flooring instead of aircraft grade aluminum
@@misteroneputt My own experience is that the mallet high MOI putter is best for most. I saw your video describing your putter and I am a big fan, but since I won a HB2 soft by Cleveland, I will not be getter another putter, but that was what I was planning on getting, until I won that putter.
@@Roberto-bd9fq That Cleveland HB2 soft is a nice putter. Congratulations on winning it. And you are right, most people seem to putt better with a mallet.
Dave Pelz said that face angle is 90% of putting. Getting there is the problem to be solved. Watching the pros, they all rock the shoulders in such a way that the lead shoulder ends up higher than it goes down on the backswing. Any thoughts?
I agree with all of that. Key is rocking shoulders like a swing and not twisting them like a door or gate. Using your core helps. If I go practice pot for 20 or 30 minutes it feels like I’ve had an ab workout.
I grew up fastest greens in the country,,and pops a life member in the pga,,could read the greens with his feet,,you, be looking at a 6 ft. Birdie put and Mr Miller(call him pops would drop his 35 ft. Birdie in on top of you..Go ahead with that 6 ft. Putt?..laugh out loud..
Now I understand why I keep coming across dead bodies on the greens... it's those golfers making fatal mistakes!!! Oh, sorry, the channel doesn't understand the meaning of English words...
@@kravdraa7 The Channel will let the folks at Webster know that they don’t fully understand the meaning of the adjective fatal and perhaps in response to your superior command of the English language they will modify their definition. Until then I’ll stick with these uses directly from Webster’s dictionary. fatal adjective fa·tal ˈfā-tᵊl 1 a: causing death b: bringing ruin c: causing failure This video covers accepted usages of B & C
BULL! How you stand doesn't matter, Open, closed, square, doesn't matter. How you bring the putter back doesn't matter. Inside out, square or outside in. Doesn't matter. Only one thing matters. That is the line the putter strikes through the ball relative to the correct line to make the putt. E.G. If the putt is dead straight then the putter must strike through the ball on that straight line to the cup. PERIOD! Anything else is bull. Look at Billy Mayfair with his outside in putt. One of the best. Ben Crenshaw considered close to the best took the putter inside out. Don't try to make everyone the same way!
@@jamesec1949 not at all trying to make everyone the same way I’m just telling you that for most people it is much easier to roll up the line as you say if their shoulders and hips are square to the target line, Arnold Palmer stood with his feet very wide open, but his shoulders Square to the line. And actually, it is not the putter itself going straight up the line you can hit the put with a glancing blow and inside outswing and outside in swing does it matter as long as the face is square and impact I’m giving general tips here to help people make sure that it’s easier for them to square the face at impact.the great putters you mentioned practice they putting two hours a day. The average amateur might practice their putting two hours a year.
@@misteroneputt My practice always started with my putter. Then wedges and so on. You said square at impact and I said square to the target line. We're saying the same thing. What's easiest to get the ball on the target line is to watch the putter strike the ball. Pick the line. If the ball is struck on that line with proper speed and the putt is missed then the line selected was off. As far as trying to be square to the target? That's the hardest thing to do. A person is going to tense up trying to be so precise. I believe an open stance allows one to see the line better but that works for me and as you said, Arnold Palmer. It's also a position that relaxes the important muscles. Put two alignment rods down in parallel and have an average amateur try to putt a ball without touching either of the two rods. They will tense up. I've taught putting for years. I first tell a student to forget everything they've heard. Then I don't care how they stand or bring back the putter. I work on having them strike the ball squarely on the proper line while watching the ball. Everything else is immaterial. Sorry, I completely disagree on all being square. In putting.
I believe you are totally wrong about the index finger. First of all your analogy with the hammer is flawed. Of course you don't put your finger down the side of a hammer because you are swinging it up and down, not side to side so there is no leverage or accuracy advantage. I have both my index fingers down the shaft. My right down the shaft, and my left down over my right three fingers. I have never putted better in my life. Your index finger is the control finger. With your index fingers down the shaft, it helps keeps you from unnecessary wrist rotation in both hands, which is detrimental to good putting stroke. Many pros use this exact same grip which is where I learned it. There are as many different putting grips as there are opinions. All of them are designed to keep the face square at impact. One is not better than the other. It is whatever works for you. Be nice to see you sinking some puts consistently before giving advice and btw that putter is hideous.
@@pauljaeger2755 I appreciate your thoughts…putted with my index finger down the shaft for a long time and discovered it was creating problems. No pros use the one finger although a number do both index fingers as you do and that works very well. It’s the trail hand index finger only that creates problems. Thought I was clear enough on that in the video. Maybe I wasn’t. There are tons of ways to grip the putter and I’m simply pointing out common mistakes. There are tons of videos here of me making putts. As to the putter being unappealing to you, everyone has a personal preference. The Honu putter works for me and many others. I can’t find a place on the scoreboard that applies any strokes for “ugly” clubs or putters.
That's a ridiculous putter. You could direct air traffic at LAX with that thing. You don't have to worry about anyone stealing it. They wouldn't be caught dead. Here's an idea: Use a Ping Zing 2 or a Ping Pal 2. Best putters ever made.
@@jeffhodge7333 actually own both of those Pings They are both great, and yes no one has tried to steal my Honu Putter. Over 300 YT followers have bought one though. And they all seem to love it. There’s a review on the channel
It isn’t very gracious or helpful to criticize another’s choice of putter owing to your personal preference, even jokingly. Lots of great putter’s use larger mallet putters. John’s choice is what works best for him. If a Ping blade works for you, then good for you. I wouldn’t criticize your choice, even if it were a skinny, little, hickory-shafted Calamity Jane.
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Most people don’t realize that putting is all set up and that these five set up errors cause you to miss the pot before you even make the stroke.
Since I started watching your videos my putting has improved. I feel much more confident my setup is right and all I have to do is make a straight putt.
@@davidgronek8931 thank you.
Thank you 🙏 I am going to practicing your techniques all winter. 2025 golf ⛳️ here I come 😊
@@mavisknight4522 doing a post on indoor winter drills and practice in a few weeks
Great information! Thanks for the video. Also I love Rhodes!! Haven't been out since fall hit and it started getting cooler but I might have to get out there soon. Maybe I'll see you. Have a good one.
@@xeverogaming thank you. Look forward to it
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@@arielluna4399 Thank you and Merry Christmas to you as well.
Index finger grip is valid when you have the right putter grip to use it. It's not for aim, it helps keep the face square.
Hello, I'm watching several more videos again today and continue to absorb the information like a sponge. During this tutorial, the demonstrations reminded me of the way Bryson DeChambeau putts with the long putter shaft anchored to his stiffened forearm while only moving his shoulders. Do you like his posture and form!
@@TomahawkMark843 it’s hard not to like his posture and form based purely on his success. That said most people cannot practice as much as he does and don’t have the skill that he does. I simply like people to move the putter out of their fingers and even out of their palm up towards the pad of their hand under their thumb which automatically makes the wrist and forearm straight in line with the putter shaft, no matter what type of putter or style you use.
Always a lot of useful stuff here. Thanks from the UK
@@chrisdorsett1062 thank you
Excellent video John, full of valuable information.
@@terrypeeples1942 thanks Terry. No worries it was a little too long, but there is lots of good stuff here.
Thanks a lot! ❤
Kudos. Great video
Great tips especially number 5 👍👍
@@JamesMaynardHutt thank you
That was an easy Thumbs Up!
@@Les.The.Occasional.Aviator Thank you
Good tip
Love the yellow vibes!
@@EagleSchoolA thanks. It’s kind of bright, but with the color of the Putter head I just had to get that grip.
Shoulda explained swing arc. Basic fundamental kinda stuff. You grazed over tiger doing it but there is a slight arc.
I’d like to hear what you have to say about the arc.
@@justinporter8789 there is always a slight arc but golfers go wrong when they start thinking about it. It’s natural because of the way your body is made the way your shoulders rotate, and the way that the club is shafted. So I prefer to have people think about moving the Putter back and through and keeping the face square but will arc naturally, but you don’t have to think about it or focus on it or try to do it and certainly not try to prevent it. It’s all about face square at impact and holding the finish in my opinion.
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Thank you sir.
One mistake you didn't mention is people that align square to the hole instead of aligning to the direction of the putt. I see that a LOT.
@@billmalec that’s a valid point.
I use a pundulam stroke ,it works for me.
I hate it when I see people with their finger down the shaft, but I am smart enough to know to say nothing as people are so attached to their own putting. I am considered one of the best putters at my club, which people say but they don't want to put in the time to get better.
Nothing in golf is certain, but for sure you will not get better at putting if you don't practice and if you don't have a putting methodology.
I used to have my finger down the shaft because it felt good...recently changed because I learned it was causing problems. And you are right to say nothing. I don't ever offer advice on the course unless I'm asked.
I'm sure these tips may work for some folks, and others they may not. There are so many golf videos out there today and lots of them provide conflicting information. If you watch the pros they all have slightly different components to their swings and putting styles. Everyone is different. Years ago before we had the internet and RUclips, people used to buy golf magazines for their tips and lessons. I was taking a lesson from a PGA pro and he told me not to pay too much attention to those magazine lessons. He said that you need to identify the swing flaw first before you can apply the solution. Applying techniques that you see in videos without knowing if it's what you really need could exacerbate the problem. It's always best to work with a qualified professional that can give you what you need to identify and fix YOUR flaws. I'm sure misteroneputt's tips may work for some folks watching this, but it's going to be trial and error.
@@stevel6895 That is true of any RUclips video and is a flaw of modern teaching. Your comment is almost the script for a video I posted a while back on what’s wrong with RUclips golf instruction…used that video as a launch for my online course “How to Putt the right way” where I teach the fundamentals from the very beginning instead of starting with something in the middle and trying to correct swing flaws that may or may not exist.
For you and all others who talk ball position, the front view is impossible for viewer to actually tell where the ball is in relation to lead foot. I notice this with driver too where instructors talk about the ball being off the lead heel but to the viewer it looks more toward the center of stance. Need to use an alignment stick or other so we actual see what you mean.
@@GaryPalmerANR1846 that is valid feedback and you are right. Thank you. I’ll post a short on this in the next few days.
Just noticed that you bend your knees so that your thighs are at the same angle as your arms and shaft. I stand straight legged and bend over so my eyes are on top of the ball. Am I wrong?
@@journeyman291 no. Not wrong at all. Everyone is a little different. And that is OK as long as you maintain the core principles.
Doesn't matter. It is repeatability that is most crucial and productive. The human brain is most respondent to repetition you can stand on your head and putt and if you repeat your stroke the same every time, you will be a good putter. DO WHAT YOU CAN REPEAT and adjust your alignment from there.
@@X11-g9b certainly true and there are lots of videos on this channel about repeatability and consistency. You are right. I’m pointing out here mistakes that cause people to struggle with consistency
Excelente
Guilty of the index finger error 😂
@@debrawright9195 me too until recently
@@misteroneputtsame
@ me too until recently
what do you call a successful putting round? 30 putts over 18 holes, 25 putts over 18 holes. From what distance , when putting from 30 foot, you are not one putting those shots. if you are missing 3 and 4 foot putts, then yes you have an issue. if you are making 90% of those putts, then it is doubtful you have any issues.
@@Sallyweber-g2r my goal is always to be under 30 putts and no 3 putt greens. But you are right about 3-4 footers. I also measure strokes gained putting and strive for a gain instead of a loss
Aimpoint equation 0.45*Gir + 22.5. Beat that regularly and your short game is tour level.
👏👏👍
Interesting thing I've noticed is you may be only one using a putter like yours I've seen on YT golf videos
@@donsmnc5319 yes probably. My putter is the same functionally as a lab golf putter. The biggest difference is mine is made by a company that uses recycled bamboo flooring instead of aircraft grade aluminum
@@donsmnc5319 that said several hundred of my followers on here have purchased one
@@misteroneputt My own experience is that the mallet high MOI putter is best for most. I saw your video describing your putter and I am a big fan, but since I won a HB2 soft by Cleveland, I will not be getter another putter, but that was what I was planning on getting, until I won that putter.
@@Roberto-bd9fq That Cleveland HB2 soft is a nice putter. Congratulations on winning it. And you are right, most people seem to putt better with a mallet.
It’s not the putter if it’s feels comfortable in your hand
It’s the person using it
Correct
Putting could kill me? 😔😮😊
@@brianhughes3176 according to Webster dictionary Fatal can also mean causing failure or ruin
Dave Pelz said that face angle is 90% of putting. Getting there is the problem to be solved. Watching the pros, they all rock the shoulders in such a way that the lead shoulder ends up higher than it goes down on the backswing. Any thoughts?
I agree with all of that. Key is rocking shoulders like a swing and not twisting them like a door or gate. Using your core helps. If I go practice pot for 20 or 30 minutes it feels like I’ve had an ab workout.
Ping 1-A!
@@jackjetpilot yes I have two of those and don’t see me ever selling either one.
I grew up fastest greens in the country,,and pops a life member in the pga,,could read the greens with his feet,,you, be looking at a 6 ft. Birdie put and Mr Miller(call him pops would drop his 35 ft. Birdie in on top of you..Go ahead with that 6 ft. Putt?..laugh out loud..
Now I understand why I keep coming across dead bodies on the greens... it's those golfers making fatal mistakes!!!
Oh, sorry, the channel doesn't understand the meaning of English words...
@@kravdraa7 The Channel will let the folks at Webster know that they don’t fully understand the meaning of the adjective fatal and perhaps in response to your superior command of the English language they will modify their definition. Until then I’ll stick with these uses directly from Webster’s dictionary.
fatal
adjective
fa·tal ˈfā-tᵊl
1
a: causing death
b: bringing ruin
c: causing failure
This video covers accepted usages of B & C
BULL! How you stand doesn't matter, Open, closed, square, doesn't matter. How you bring the putter back doesn't matter. Inside out, square or outside in. Doesn't matter. Only one thing matters. That is the line the putter strikes through the ball relative to the correct line to make the putt. E.G. If the putt is dead straight then the putter must strike through the ball on that straight line to the cup. PERIOD! Anything else is bull. Look at Billy Mayfair with his outside in putt. One of the best. Ben Crenshaw considered close to the best took the putter inside out. Don't try to make everyone the same way!
@@jamesec1949 not at all trying to make everyone the same way I’m just telling you that for most people it is much easier to roll up the line as you say if their shoulders and hips are square to the target line, Arnold Palmer stood with his feet very wide open, but his shoulders Square to the line. And actually, it is not the putter itself going straight up the line you can hit the put with a glancing blow and inside outswing and outside in swing does it matter as long as the face is square and impact I’m giving general tips here to help people make sure that it’s easier for them to square the face at impact.the great putters you mentioned practice they putting two hours a day. The average amateur might practice their putting two hours a year.
@@misteroneputt My practice always started with my putter. Then wedges and so on. You said square at impact and I said square to the target line. We're saying the same thing. What's easiest to get the ball on the target line is to watch the putter strike the ball. Pick the line. If the ball is struck on that line with proper speed and the putt is missed then the line selected was off. As far as trying to be square to the target? That's the hardest thing to do. A person is going to tense up trying to be so precise. I believe an open stance allows one to see the line better but that works for me and as you said, Arnold Palmer. It's also a position that relaxes the important muscles. Put two alignment rods down in parallel and have an average amateur try to putt a ball without touching either of the two rods. They will tense up. I've taught putting for years. I first tell a student to forget everything they've heard. Then I don't care how they stand or bring back the putter. I work on having them strike the ball squarely on the proper line while watching the ball. Everything else is immaterial. Sorry, I completely disagree on all being square. In putting.
@ fair enough
@@misteroneputt Not a good day for me. Sorry for venting at you.
@ all good
I believe you are totally wrong about the index finger. First of all your analogy with the hammer is flawed. Of course you don't put your finger down the side of a hammer because you are swinging it up and down, not side to side so there is no leverage or accuracy advantage. I have both my index fingers down the shaft. My right down the shaft, and my left down over my right three fingers. I have never putted better in my life. Your index finger is the control finger. With your index fingers down the shaft, it helps keeps you from unnecessary wrist rotation in both hands, which is detrimental to good putting stroke. Many pros use this exact same grip which is where I learned it. There are as many different putting grips as there are opinions. All of them are designed to keep the face square at impact. One is not better than the other. It is whatever works for you. Be nice to see you sinking some puts consistently before giving advice and btw that putter is hideous.
@@pauljaeger2755 I appreciate your thoughts…putted with my index finger down the shaft for a long time and discovered it was creating problems. No pros use the one finger although a number do both index fingers as you do and that works very well. It’s the trail hand index finger only that creates problems. Thought I was clear enough on that in the video. Maybe I wasn’t. There are tons of ways to grip the putter and I’m simply pointing out common mistakes. There are tons of videos here of me making putts. As to the putter being unappealing to you, everyone has a personal preference. The Honu putter works for me and many others. I can’t find a place on the scoreboard that applies any strokes for “ugly” clubs or putters.
I will take your advice ....thanks ...bjm ⛳
😎Excellent presentation and information. Cheers👍🏌♂
@@KarlG-y2v thank you
That's a ridiculous putter. You could direct air traffic at LAX with that thing. You don't have to worry about anyone stealing it. They wouldn't be caught dead. Here's an idea: Use a Ping Zing 2 or a Ping Pal 2. Best putters ever made.
@@jeffhodge7333 actually own both of those Pings They are both great, and yes no one has tried to steal my Honu Putter. Over 300 YT followers have bought one though. And they all seem to love it. There’s a review on the channel
It isn’t very gracious or helpful to criticize another’s choice of putter owing to your personal preference, even jokingly. Lots of great putter’s use larger mallet putters. John’s choice is what works best for him. If a Ping blade works for you, then good for you. I wouldn’t criticize your choice, even if it were a skinny, little, hickory-shafted Calamity Jane.
@ tessp100d4. lol. I’m a certified fitter for LAB and own several and gamed a DF 2.0 before switching to HONU