Vegeta vs The Greek Gods is Not Fair! | Dragon Ball vs Mythology

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • #anime #dragonball #vegeta #godofwar
    Today we discuss if the Greek Gods that inspired things like God of War, Hades, Record of Ragnarok and many other franchises would be able to save the Earth from a Saiyan Invasion from Vegeta and Nappa!

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  • @lonkstakes
    @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +309

    "What's a prince to a god?" - Zeus

    • @SergioRodriguez-bx3ot
      @SergioRodriguez-bx3ot 4 месяца назад +130

      And what is a god to a non believer? -Vegeta after a few zenkais

    • @2tfruity
      @2tfruity 4 месяца назад +26

      What is a god to a nonbeliever? - vegeta (team four star)

    • @2tfruity
      @2tfruity 4 месяца назад +8

      @@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot damn beat me to it

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +30

      @@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot Those zenkais really helped him in the saiyan saga

    • @nitrox3852
      @nitrox3852 4 месяца назад +9

      @@2tfruityDo you believe now?

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 4 месяца назад +344

    Now I’m just imagining as Vegeta goes to monologue against Zeus he keeps getting interrupted by Kratos screaming in the background,
    *”ZOOOOOOOOOOS!”*

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +60

      AREESSS!!! SLAY THE SAIYANS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!

    • @bigyoshi5170
      @bigyoshi5170 4 месяца назад +47

      @@lonkstakes “Vegeta! Look it’s an Ares! A fire type Pokemon! I’m gonna catch it!” -Nappa

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward 4 месяца назад +28

      @@bigyoshi5170 Ares: "The hell is a Poke- OW!"
      Nappa: "Aw, Vegeta, it didn't work."
      Vegeta: "That's cause you gotta damage it first."
      Kratos: "Allow me to get a critical."
      Ares: 💀

    • @Tristan_00715
      @Tristan_00715 4 месяца назад +4

      funny thing is ares did explode😂😂. like the other pokemon nappa tried to catch🗿​@@BCCSquidward

    • @RelatableBlackGuy
      @RelatableBlackGuy 4 месяца назад

      *DO NOT DENY ME MY DOOBIE!!*

  • @socketyellow3
    @socketyellow3 4 месяца назад +482

    “What is a god to a non believer”
    Proceeds to get his ass beat

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +40

      Lmao

    • @narutohinataashgaara
      @narutohinataashgaara 4 месяца назад +50

      He was doing the thumb pose wasn't he?

    • @imbadatusernames8206
      @imbadatusernames8206 4 месяца назад +15

      ​@@narutohinataashgaara Definitely

    • @hayabusa2360
      @hayabusa2360 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@narutohinataashgaara Its vegeta so what ya expected the thumbs up Pose will be his Iconic downfall of a pose.

    • @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
      @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 3 месяца назад

      In the SCP foundation that would make the non-believer immune, the spear of the non-believer for example

  • @MAJJASTAK
    @MAJJASTAK 4 месяца назад +167

    I know it's not directly related, but the fact that Greek gods are more consistantly powerscaled through media than some comics characters like Batman is hilarious.
    Also this made the Zeus vs Vegeta analysis way more interesting imo.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +12

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @MAJJASTAK
      @MAJJASTAK 4 месяца назад +9

      @@lonkstakes Yeah i'm more a fan of picking one version of a character that's closest to the source like how you did there. Sometimes it feels like some versions of some characters are directly written to not be powerscaled (like stuff you'd accuse of plot armor), or doesn't make alot of sense power-wise outside of the story it's written in, not to mention how certain criticised writers are still counted for their character's powerscaling just to make them more op than what they are originally
      Actually, that gives me an idea. idk if you take requests like that, that are kinda 1st april thing worthy, but it would be funny comparing stuff like Sonic, knuckles and co. depicted by Sega VS their versions by Ken Penders. Or atleast, ideas like Evolution goku vs Movie Superman

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz 4 месяца назад

      EXCELLENT WORK. LONK'S TAKES GREEKS GOD'S VS SAIYAN

    • @kr555wizard
      @kr555wizard 4 месяца назад +2

      @@MAJJASTAKhe already did evolution goku vs man of steel superman, and found both are pretty close, with goku is stronger but superman way faster

    • @MAJJASTAK
      @MAJJASTAK 4 месяца назад

      @@kr555wizard that is my point. Basically I want him to explore similar topics.

  • @JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2
    @JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2 4 месяца назад +303

    Greek Gods wondering why Vegeta died instantly(he did the thumb pose)

    • @ghastlyanarchy1720
      @ghastlyanarchy1720 4 месяца назад +27

      And held his arm a bit after the first hit

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 4 месяца назад +35

      And he referred to himself as "The Prince of All Saiyans" at the start

    • @ghastlyanarchy1720
      @ghastlyanarchy1720 4 месяца назад +18

      @@arkkon2740 they weren't dealing with the average Saiyan warrior

    • @khaibeststudio
      @khaibeststudio 4 месяца назад +11

      Don’t forget Vegeta’s Technique™

    • @realplayaf
      @realplayaf 4 месяца назад +11

      @@arkkon2740 he said "watch n learn kakarot" n proceeded to trip on a pebble n die before even reaching mount Olympus

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 4 месяца назад +304

    Greek Gods are the most inconsistent mfs ever, sometimes they are just human like characters with powers, other times they are omnipotent gods with unlimited power

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +61

      Kratos would bully the saiyan saga so badly it would be insane

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward 4 месяца назад +6

      Yeah... you're honestly not wrong. 😂

    • @good8619
      @good8619 4 месяца назад +28

      @@lonkstakes I've seen people say Kratos beats some of the stronger DBS characters, but how would you even go about comparing them when you cant even properly scale anyone after B.o.G., due to them getting unquantifiably stronger.

    • @oohyah7
      @oohyah7 4 месяца назад +18

      @@good8619 you can scale them off of feats, for instance with hit, he can literally skip forward in time, goku bypassing this with raw speed and power puts him above time, also goku existing in a literal void that happened because the omni king destroyed not just a universe but a entire timeline proves that goku is above time. ie there are levels to infinity when it comes to speed, strength, ect.

    • @mkchable
      @mkchable 4 месяца назад +13

      ​​@@lonkstakes How high do you scale Kratos exactly?.. As in what do you think is his greatest feat?
      Because I am heavily against the idea that the gow series comes anywhere near universal.

  • @twigy2784
    @twigy2784 4 месяца назад +18

    Vegeta and Nappa: beating the other gods of Olympus
    *BUT THEN ALONG CAME ZEUS*

    • @DragonReaper9k
      @DragonReaper9k 2 месяца назад +3

      *HE HURLED THE THUNDERBOLT*

    • @HelperKaiGlenn
      @HelperKaiGlenn 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DragonReaper9k That's not how that line goes. At all actually.

    • @DragonReaper9k
      @DragonReaper9k 2 месяца назад

      @@HelperKaiGlenn it's all I could remember XD 😅

  • @Itjo
    @Itjo 4 месяца назад +58

    I never thought about that if an ancient god is said to be universal, the understanding of the size of the universe back then is *WAY* saller than today, so that it is only like solar system level

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +5

      Glad to change your perspective!

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 3 месяца назад +15

      @@lonkstakesbut tbf tho. The point the ancient greeks were trying to make was that the gods could destroy all of creation. My point being if they had the knowledge we do today, their statements on the gods would not change, they’d just be applied to the current understanding. For example lets assume (this isn’t true but lets just for the sake of the argument) that the greeks thought the whole universe was just the earth. Well of course when they say the Gods could destroy the universe they’d be referring to the earth. However if they KNEW the real size of the universe, they’d still say that the gods would destroy the actual universe. Because the *point* of those statements is to showcase that the gods are *gods*. Was i clear enough? Lol idk if i made my point clear.

    • @twibot4733
      @twibot4733 2 месяца назад +4

      ​​@@datboy038 You was perfectly clear, that is what we like to call CONTEXT, something that the power scalers seems to ignore mostly. The shows want to show you that some character can destroy the universe, and affects it a lot, but they start counter argumenting and all that. That's why I consider thing like saying that characters like Zeno would be beaten everytime by other characters is ridiculous, Zeno is despicted as an unbeatable force that can obliterate all of creations regardless of scale, but because DB cosmology is not as big as DC or Marvel's one, then Zeno get's completely beaten by almost every deity in those verses. (I find entertaining the power scaling, but it's only when you ignore the context around a character when it comes to compare it to anothers). But anyways, your observation is pretty good

  • @truthdemon105
    @truthdemon105 4 месяца назад +90

    Vegeta: *Does the thumb pose* "You see, King of the gods, you're not dealing with the average s-" *hears rumbling*
    Kratos: "ZOOOS! Your son has returned! I've come to run the haands! I'm taking your cheeks, and it will Be NON-CONSENSUAAAL!!!"
    Zeus: "I've genuinely had enough for this morning.."

    • @vegeta_69420
      @vegeta_69420 4 месяца назад +5

      The kratos-vegeta team up finna go absolutely crazy

    • @amateur-madman3047
      @amateur-madman3047 4 месяца назад +5

      Holy shit what a group of sentences

    • @arthurdias6860
      @arthurdias6860 4 месяца назад +7

      Zeus: i just woke up, and didnt even had my morning affair
      Hera: Your morning WHAT?!
      Zeus: No-nothing dear! 😅

  • @prestongiles9917
    @prestongiles9917 4 месяца назад +12

    "What could the god of an inferior species possibly do against the prince of saiy-"
    Zeus: *insert Booty Warrior speech*

  • @Gking121
    @Gking121 4 месяца назад +40

    He didn't even do the thumb pose

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +5

      He hadn’t learned to do it yet 😞

  • @thehonoredone2361
    @thehonoredone2361 4 месяца назад +40

    The pimp's of mount Olympus Vs the prince of the Monkes. But this is actually a really cool idea.

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward 4 месяца назад +4

      Is that an ERB reference? 😂

    • @M1NTY_FRESH
      @M1NTY_FRESH 3 месяца назад +1

      Frezia?!?!?!

    • @M1NTY_FRESH
      @M1NTY_FRESH 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@BCCSquidwardsorry to ask but what's erb?

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward 3 месяца назад +1

      @@M1NTY_FRESH EPIC RAP BATTLE

  • @JustSaiyanDude
    @JustSaiyanDude 4 месяца назад +7

    Damn if you think about it, if great ape vegeta was 180,000. He could've easily taken out the entire Ginyu force, including if not limited to Ginyu himself. Makes a lot more sense why Frieza chose to specifically keep Vegeta alive.

  • @Goji-C
    @Goji-C 4 месяца назад +49

    Pretty nuanced way of scaling the Greek gods makes thier scaling a lot more approachable

    • @camerontaylor2184
      @camerontaylor2184 4 месяца назад +3

      We’re do you have the Greek gods at?

    • @Oz1manndias
      @Oz1manndias 4 месяца назад +5

      I think it depends. Mostly, I’d put them way higher than this video did, but that’s just me.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@camerontaylor2184should have been universal at least but it whatever lonk takes are bad most of thf time

    • @lt5420
      @lt5420 3 месяца назад

      @@gameuniverse5973 He explained why they aren't universal though?

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 3 месяца назад

      @@lt5420 which is a big stretch since in those literal writings they say the universe is infinity and there no end

  • @BCCSquidward
    @BCCSquidward 4 месяца назад +32

    Yeah... Saiyan Saga Vegeta is pretty much the weakest version of Vegeta...
    Zeus could definitely take down this version of the Prince.
    And Nappa's just... Nappa.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +12

      Nappa slander will not be tolerated

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@lonkstakes Who said it was slander? 🌚
      Nappa went to Saiyan University.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 4 месяца назад +9

      @@lonkstakes all the 3 Nappa fans are gonna love this

    • @shmelzy82
      @shmelzy82 3 месяца назад +2

      @@lonkstakes nappa negs all gods by turning golden nappa

    • @abhirupkundu2778
      @abhirupkundu2778 2 месяца назад

      @@shmelzy82 Bro's pubic hair gonna scream: "URGGHH!! NOW YOU ALL DIE HERE!" and turn golden

  • @8bitutopia182
    @8bitutopia182 4 месяца назад +12

    Man I never expected you to scale Mythology! Very interesting!
    I wonder if you’ll ever do other myths, like Arthurian Myth or Norse Myth. Fun to imagine!

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +2

      I’ll think about it. The problem is that few other mythologies have actual written stories

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 3 месяца назад +2

      "Could Lancelot Survive the Shibuya Incident?"

  • @bry-guy4177
    @bry-guy4177 4 месяца назад +34

    Like Aphrodite could just love curse Vegeta and Nappa to make out with each other

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +12

      You’re cooking with this one fr

    • @Nombrenooriginal
      @Nombrenooriginal 4 месяца назад +4

      Like that one image of goku and vegeta kissing?

    • @hiddenthunder1395
      @hiddenthunder1395 3 месяца назад +2

      - Nice one, Aphrodite!
      - Hermes, I didn't do shit.

  • @leafydoesedits3266
    @leafydoesedits3266 4 месяца назад +8

    I must apply the implications of the Universal Calendar of the Geometrical Universe that implies that outside of the Cosmos, including our own star and every planet there is further infinities and the "Corners" you mentioned literally stretch out into those infinite ranges. Also, the Greeks were a lot more advanced than we somehow seem to always assume. They aren't Medieval People. We lost thousands of years of information due to the Fall of Rome and part of it was the fact that Greeks were already AWARE the Earth revolved around the Sun. In fact, the Heliocentric model of the universe was proposed by Aristarchus the same man who himself drew a graph of a Geocentric model of the universe, and then went on to improve upon it with fact.
    We even knew about the rotation of Earth around the axis of the Sun, and were able to pinpoint events with levels of accuracy we couldn't manage again till the 1700's. Also, to add when you mentioned that some texts believe the Ocean is infinite... That's because they LITERALLY believed that Space, was water. They believed that the endless void of space we know now, was literally, a massive ocean that the Earth floated in. So yes, when they say infinite they're not being hyperbolic they unironically believe it to be infinite because they aren't referring to the same things as you are. Maybe not all Greek gods, but the famous Trio are obscenely into the Universal ranges especially considering information regarding the Primordials and the Titans who the God's (Mainly Zeus) usurped themselves. Being able to defeat the literal personification of life, death, time, and strength to name just a few. These aren't hyperbolic statements either, as the Primordials unironically predate the Universe and created it yet the Titans defeated them. Then, the gods usurped the Titans. It's pretty clear, the stronger Gods should be in these Universal to even conceptual levels of power just via the nature of the history.

    • @Guardian_of_Chaos
      @Guardian_of_Chaos 4 месяца назад

      Exactly,he definitely low balled them by taking certain things too literally,I’m definitely in agreement with this

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Guardian_of_ChaosScale them as bad as if he har a grudge against them like kratos

    • @Guardian_of_Chaos
      @Guardian_of_Chaos 4 месяца назад

      @@gameuniverse5973 yeah

    • @Lord_khaos3225
      @Lord_khaos3225 3 месяца назад

      ⁠​⁠@@Guardian_of_Chaosgreek mythology is easily low multiversal the earth is infinite size stated multiple times not hyperbolic contain smaller infinite things like forests and rivers and many other stuff most things were stated to be infinite within the earth endless time and space.the earth was within a even more infinite ocean source of the rivers making it multiversal+ the heavens are beyond this and are the same size already low multiversal and the gods true form are pure and abstract incomprehensible to humans beyond all limitations of time and space making heaven and Olympus lowball low multiversal-outer.Most gods can travel form high realms to the earth realm faster thought making gods casually immeasurable speed they are truly and conceptual immortal taking any physical form or shape change any shape or form.
      Hax of Zeus
      Author of all things
      Necessity manipulation:Zeus has control over the entire transcendental concept of necessity that is fundamentally to all of the cosmos on a conceptual cosmic subatomic scale and basically allows him to basically do anything.
      See and control all possible outcomes like in the Iliad.
      Time manipulation:stopped time
      Fate manipulation
      Victory inducement:has the concept of victory on side.
      Reality warping:can turn of someone’s intelligence give immortality take away godhood give power to front rim elements of creation.
      And lastly Zeus is like the father archetype of creation and Hera the mother and this made even more clear in Orphism.Things come into being when they mate on a cosmic scale.

  • @davidnewhart2533
    @davidnewhart2533 4 месяца назад +29

    "What's a non-believer to a god?"

    • @rexcelent8560
      @rexcelent8560 4 месяца назад +2

      I'm pretty sure it was the opposite lol

  • @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
    @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ 4 месяца назад +9

    Here's something you don't know probably.
    There are 2 mythological version of our Greek mythology
    1. Ovid's metamorphosis who shit on gods and made them by a lot more weaker and turned them into shape shifting r@pists because he was exiled by the Romans and denied entry by the Greeks
    2 there's the original Greek mythology who are much much much universal stronger and more altruistic.
    So if we're talking about Ovid's metamorphosis then vegeta might win in his super Saiyan form, hell he'll solo most of them
    But in our original versions, nah. That's like saying that you can stop a meteor falling into earth with your own hands.

    • @thatsinteresting3415
      @thatsinteresting3415 4 месяца назад +1

      Nah, Zeus turns into a space elephant and impregnates Vegeta.

    • @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
      @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ 4 месяца назад

      @@thatsinteresting3415
      the fk??...
      I thought I have seen and heard everything but that comment...that comment proved me wrong
      how did you even came up with it?

    • @thatsinteresting3415
      @thatsinteresting3415 4 месяца назад

      @@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Just normal Zeus activity.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 2 месяца назад

      Vegeta busted up meteors trying to go super saiyan.

  • @camrong5680
    @camrong5680 4 месяца назад +6

    i legit thought he was gonna use like a later vegeta lol

  • @odin....
    @odin.... 4 месяца назад +6

    Bro lowballed the greek gods as much as possible and vegeta still lost 😂😂😂

    • @DeviousCockroach
      @DeviousCockroach 4 месяца назад +2

      tbf he used Saiyan Saga vegeta

    • @BigJohn303
      @BigJohn303 4 месяца назад

      You do know this is only saiyan saga vegeta right ? The weakest version of vegeta besides his kid version. And he still bodied all the Greek gods except zeus.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BigJohn303crazy how the gods and zeus woop all all of z it takes super when dragon ball win lowball the hell out of the gods the universe in Greek myths have lots of hints that the universe is infinty in size

  • @RomeTWguy
    @RomeTWguy 4 месяца назад +5

    bro is powerscaling via statements from ancient epics and poems

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +2

      Im goated like that

    • @belugaop2477
      @belugaop2477 Месяц назад +1

      I don’t know but this guy hates scaling dragon ball from statements like I watch him a lot , he only takes the statements for the opponent but not anyone from db which would outscales

  • @ShadowThegamingwarrior-gv1fv
    @ShadowThegamingwarrior-gv1fv 4 месяца назад +2

    Vegeta "fuck zeus"
    Goku "what,the fuck zeus"

  • @Outmod727
    @Outmod727 4 месяца назад +5

    One thing that would be funny and very intreasting would be Accelerator vs The Greek Gods, (Accelerator is from the Toaru Majutsu no Index series) it would be intreasting mainly because of Accelerator ability being one of the most broken ability of all time i say. (Love your videos man keep up the work. Also i would love to see if you can do VS battles with Accelerator, because it would be fun as hell to see and because i haven't seen any battle to do with him beside him vs gojo lmao).

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      I have not seen their show unfortunately

    • @Outmod727
      @Outmod727 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes I would recommended it, it's a very good series the story is good, but it can be confusing to get into it if you don't know about it so if you're going to watch it (or read it) at some point try and get some info about the read or watch order of the series.

  • @Yippie_Yeehaw-A56
    @Yippie_Yeehaw-A56 4 месяца назад +8

    What a great graduation gift.

  • @theheadlessglen
    @theheadlessglen 4 месяца назад +4

    Very cool interpretation of the myths, highly entertaining

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 2 месяца назад +1

    Zeus: HOW DARE YOU STOP ME FROM SEDUCING WOMAN AND DOING IT IN ANIMAL FORMS!!!
    vegeta: 😳 you know what forget about the invasion
    Nappa: vegeta?
    Vegeta: no not worth it nappa were going
    Nappa: ok

  • @thanglauc
    @thanglauc 4 месяца назад +6

    Bro, even Aphrodite alone can beat the entire Dragon Ball verse. It's never been fair.

    • @l2klogic911
      @l2klogic911 3 месяца назад

      They used start of z vegetable. Grab him a couple sagas ahead and the Greek gods aren’t even a challenge then

    • @thanglauc
      @thanglauc 3 месяца назад +1

      @@l2klogic911 I'm sure even current Vegeta can't beat the Greek gods. If Hera's breast milk alone can created an entire galaxy, then just imagine the gods using their full power.

    • @aydenbarrera-smith6316
      @aydenbarrera-smith6316 Месяц назад

      How

  • @trigga-kage2708
    @trigga-kage2708 4 месяца назад +2

    Pretty good video, always love to see Greek god scaling as a fan of Greek Mythology. And despite what it may seem like the PJO gods are fairly powerful. Percy is only able to “beat” Ares because 1) Ares wasn’t taking him seriously and was playing with him as a baby would play around with their food and 2) The majority of the time we see the gods they aren’t in their true divine forms which are SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful with just them transforming into their true from being able to evaporate any mortal that’s looking. And unlike the GoW gods they are actually immortal and can’t be killed in battle, heavily beaten up sure but they won’t die, the closet to them “dying” is fading which doesn’t come from any combat related means. A bunch of good calcs have them at planet - star level

  • @arkkon2740
    @arkkon2740 4 месяца назад +3

    if you ever do a Late Z or Super continuation of this, you should check in on the primordials
    From my understanding of them, they're basically the predecessors of the universe as the ancient greeks knew it, both physical and conceptual. I wouldn't call them omnipotent because if I remember correctly some have died, but they're so powerful that Zeus see the primordials as we would see the regular pantheon, he wouldn't put a dent in them if he tried.
    The Mythology Guy talked about them a few times and he's pretty knowledgeable on this topic so if there's any information you may have missed or you wanna learn about, I'd say you should check him out
    Either way, pretty awesome video! And I know you touched on the "Goku with every power" thing already but I saw the original post and I hope to see your take on how any other composite verse would do vs that version of goku

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +2

      I think you’re thinking of Orphic Zeus

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes okay youre right I am thinking of Orphic myth, but then again I didn't have Orphic Zeus in mind

  • @Night_brighter_
    @Night_brighter_ 4 месяца назад +9

    Currently vegeta's base form is stronger than SSJ 3 goku from buu saga so he could destroy all greek gods in a sec in his base form

  • @The2bGaming
    @The2bGaming 3 месяца назад

    I'm a simple man. I see Smite artwork, I click

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung 4 месяца назад +24

    I ain't ever gonna guess what this dude is gonna power scale next 💀

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +7

      Gotta stay on your toes

    • @KingBongHogger
      @KingBongHogger 4 месяца назад

      TELETUBBIES!

    • @zaidnava7200
      @zaidnava7200 4 месяца назад

      watch it be yhwach vs yhwh

    • @merfblaster
      @merfblaster 4 месяца назад

      @@KingBongHoggerHigh complex multiversal due to their battle with Steezus Christ

  • @thedragonslayer481
    @thedragonslayer481 14 дней назад

    i would just like to point out one thing that is that thousands of years earlier the universe may actually only be 79 million miles since we know it is constantly expanding multiple times faster than light. I may be wrong tho but yeah just putting it out there

  • @FatefulMedia3383
    @FatefulMedia3383 4 месяца назад +3

    Wait, if 10,000 is enough to destroy a planet I DBZ, then wouldn't the Saiyan be able to destroy Namek?
    Since it's also considered a small planet, even though it is clearly larger than its three suns.

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo 4 месяца назад +1

      He’s mixing anime canon with manga canon

  • @bry-guy4177
    @bry-guy4177 4 месяца назад +11

    Gonna guess that the Greek gods take this one since they literally embody concepts and the phenomena they represent

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo 4 месяца назад

      Exactly I don’t think he understands concepts & primordial principles. Cause lonks is constantly throughout the video not going anywhere near concepts or abstract concepts. I think he’s intentionally doing this as to actually even be able to make this video. Like no 7:04 wait is this mfer mixing anime & guides!!? NVM he’s actually being dishonest about the scaling or just trying to make it look actually close for the video… Im flabbergasted he’s bringing in lightspeed talking about mfers above time!!8:40 WTF !8:17

  • @elijahmauldin2908
    @elijahmauldin2908 4 месяца назад +2

    sooooo when is Goku vs jesus dropping?

  • @nonplayercharacter12333
    @nonplayercharacter12333 3 месяца назад +2

    Zeus is clapping Vegeta's cheeks. You can't tell me he wouldn't try. He's freaky.

  • @fkeyae4217
    @fkeyae4217 4 месяца назад +1

    Yujiro vs Batman next?

  • @GoliathPyroson
    @GoliathPyroson 3 месяца назад

    Zeus has run from the danger of angering Nyx, the infinite Night and daughter of Chaos the creator of all things, but I feel everyone can agree that’s reasonable

  • @takatotakasui8307
    @takatotakasui8307 3 месяца назад

    We need a sequel to this one

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 4 месяца назад +31

    Vegeta would not last against GOW Zeus the man is actually immortal, it took Kratos an entire pantheon of weapons and hax and even then, that did not kill him, infact Fear Zeus one shot Kratos and it took the POH to ultimately kill him

    • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
      @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 4 месяца назад +11

      To be fair, Myth Zeus survived having all his tendons removed by Typhon, and similar gods like Kronos survived being chopped into pieces

    • @truthdemon105
      @truthdemon105 4 месяца назад +3

      In mythology they can't die at all too supposedly, by any means. Now the Greeks did not take into account stuff like DB would ever exist or characters like Anti-Spiral who's throwing entire universes, but safe to say they are 100% Immortal. And the primordials are far stronger than the Titans and gods.

    • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
      @DragonBallsolosyourverse 4 месяца назад +2

      Myth zeus was the one talked about in the video
      Not god of war zeus

  • @serge-partykingtech5923
    @serge-partykingtech5923 2 месяца назад

    Pretty interesting I think you should compare marvel Zeus to a super Saiyan God. That Zeus, I think would give even that level of Dragon Ball character, a run for his money no problem as he crushed Hulk. Honestly, he might just crush them lol

  • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
    @DragonBallsolosyourverse 4 месяца назад

    Would be cool if you did.
    A top 10 strongest versions of greek gods video
    Like
    Record of ragnarok
    Saint seiya
    God of war
    DC COMICS
    Shin megami tensei and so on

  • @KazumaVL
    @KazumaVL 4 месяца назад +1

    What about Athena? Iirc in the myth of her birth, when Zeus ate her mother he did so in fear of the prophecy of his future 2 children, just like Uranus and Chronos died to their respective children, it was told that the children Zeus would have with that woman would be as strong and then stronger than him, eventually defeating him, and knowing that only the first one, the equal to Zeus, was born as Athena, that would make some difference in the scaling

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 4 месяца назад +2

    You really should've looked into as many big hero myths as possible for scaling purposes, cuz I hear the feat of Heracles firing at the Sun is 2% SOL or something. Not Vegeta's speed, but my point stands, there isn't nothing.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Is that calc including the correct scale of the Greek mythological universe?

    • @camerontaylor2184
      @camerontaylor2184 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakesit actually got calced as FTL … but it used the real life distance

  • @boredfangerrude8759
    @boredfangerrude8759 3 месяца назад +1

    What are you smoking? The Saiyans would get wiped by the LESSER gods due to the immortality they possess alone as they can outlast the Saiyans. Not to mention Hades can summon an army of undead and become undetectably invisible. And that's just one of the other gods.

  • @RobinTheMetaGod
    @RobinTheMetaGod 3 месяца назад

    That just gives the Greek Pantheon a max power level of 10 billion.

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime 3 месяца назад

    Mythology around the world has all sorts of fun stuff you could do.

  • @Sonic546416
    @Sonic546416 21 день назад

    Now I want to see base super saiyan vegeta vs Zeus, no tail or great ape.
    And to make it slightly more fair to Zeus we will give him any of his more known hax, and for sake of argument give him unlimited thunderbolts not restricted by Hephaestus production rate.

  • @PatrickFox-gp1op
    @PatrickFox-gp1op 21 день назад

    Please do raditz vs the immortal from invincible

  • @MohamedShawky
    @MohamedShawky 4 месяца назад +16

    Now if it's SSJB or Ultra Ego it would have been a different story

    • @BigJohn303
      @BigJohn303 4 месяца назад +10

      Android saga SSJ vegeta would toy with zeus going by the video.

    • @Anoneditz57
      @Anoneditz57 4 месяца назад +7

      @@BigJohn303 Nah even Namek saga vegeta would clap zeus, because he absolutely obilirated Tui which was also had 18,000 power level

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo 4 месяца назад

      @@BigJohn303oh lord he’s not.

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo 4 месяца назад

      @@Anoneditz57i. Please stop

    • @Patrik123YT
      @Patrik123YT 4 месяца назад +2

      cap since zeus is downscaled her 🤣

  • @crashkojote5627
    @crashkojote5627 4 месяца назад

    Well, this is consistent with my piece of knowledge to Zeus' power:
    He is afraid of Nyx, who is the Night. Not the night sky, but the Night.
    She is the darkness of the universe, she is there when the sun is not.
    Which we, by our modern understanding would mean, she is basically The Void of Space.
    No way in hell can a simple planet buster take out the entire void of even _just_ a single solar system.

  • @cryptedz7664
    @cryptedz7664 4 месяца назад +2

    I think the gods are far beyond star level and would ultimately win. But vegeta would be fat beyond star level generously speaking. Dodoria had a PL of 22k and vegeta completely destroyed him with a PL of 24k. PL aren't linear, vegeta would be dozens of times stronger than king vegeta with his hands not counting his Galic gun which makes him 2-3x stronger. Which would make his great ape form all the more impressive. But I think zues is a universe buster so it doesn't matter how strong vegeta is

  • @Cooldude45508
    @Cooldude45508 4 месяца назад +1

    awesome video dude

  • @stormycraft3052
    @stormycraft3052 4 месяца назад +1

    Kid Goku dodged lasers in rr army saga - FTL
    Later Goku holding back moves so fast that Master Roshi can't even see him. While Master Roshi would be FTL too.
    He even had a kame so strong it was stated to be able to power entire stars.
    King piccolo states he will destroy the world if he's annoyed.
    Goku is so outmached that Mr. Popo eats his kame, and Kami flicks him away.
    But after training he's so strong that with a hole in his chest barely standing his able to defeat Piccolo junior who stated he's 1000 stronger than: Kuririn, Roshi, Tien, Chaoz, Kami, Yajirobe all at once while heavily injured.
    With the power level of 400 he was over 1000 times stronger than Kami and the others, while being heavily injured and while kami earlier flicked his world buster power with 1 finger.
    A punch is roughly 375 times stronger than a finger flick.
    It would mean that Goku at this point would be at least 375000 stronger than kami while injured who flicked Goku, who defeated King Piccolo, who was planetary at a highball.
    Db earth is at least a few times bigger than our earth.
    There are even arguments for 4 billion x earth due to dr slump.
    End of og db Goku is MFTL+ with solar system - multi solar system level of power.
    He then trains for years till Raditz fight. And trains with King Kai for Saiyans. getting from 400pl to 8000pl.
    and vegeta is 18000.
    Vegeta tanks spirit bomb after a huge fight and is still alive even tho it's stated to be a super nova level attack.
    Vegeta in great ape form would mop the floor with zeus.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 месяца назад +1

      Gods should easiky scale to large universal to possibly multiversal by scaling off atlas holding all of creation

    • @stormycraft3052
      @stormycraft3052 4 месяца назад

      @@gameuniverse5973 Have you watched his video? He explains that people in those days thought that solar system was entire universe. So shaking the "universe" would be solar system level. (In shaking ofc, not even destruction)

  • @joeythecar0_099
    @joeythecar0_099 18 дней назад

    Witch pasific version of the greek gods was this for Vegeta to fight.

  • @mateusmessias360
    @mateusmessias360 4 месяца назад

    Hey Lonk, could you do a breakdown of ki and it's various applications/hax in the series?
    It feels to me that at first glance ki just gives superhuman stats, flight, and energy blasts. But when you look into it there are a lot of rarely used potentially OP applications of ki, like teleportation or time skipping.

  • @rodthedigger2902
    @rodthedigger2902 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video!

  • @siei3i37
    @siei3i37 4 месяца назад

    Now if you included Super or GT Vegeta it would be a different story

  • @Tibsterv
    @Tibsterv 4 месяца назад

    Uncle grandpa: let me solo them.😈

  • @absolutleynotanalien8096
    @absolutleynotanalien8096 3 месяца назад

    Zeus is faster than his teleporting wife.

  • @cyberlead8527
    @cyberlead8527 4 месяца назад +1

    Saint Seiya mentionned ! May we have a debunking / glazing video about that 80s universe ?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      I haven’t actually read it🫡

  • @mikokopops802
    @mikokopops802 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video! And can I please ask you to dissect and tell us who is stronger between Goku and gohan in the manga?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Maybe, a lot of people have already talked about it so I don’t want to step on their toes. I did make a RUclips short about it though!

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Also thank you!!!

    • @mikokopops802
      @mikokopops802 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes this is true. But you truly seem to have more evidence on a lot of the topics you discuss, if you know what I mean.

  • @anetery1226
    @anetery1226 Месяц назад

    Appolo should also be star level as he moves the sun with his chariot

  • @cipher6601
    @cipher6601 Месяц назад

    Gotta love it when people power scale religion.

  • @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
    @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 3 месяца назад

    The god of war (ares I think) also defeats Zeus eventually apparently but that's nowhere near enough

  • @farizr.batarai8271
    @farizr.batarai8271 4 месяца назад +1

    You gotta do super perfect cell vs the greek gods

    • @BigJohn303
      @BigJohn303 4 месяца назад +1

      Super perfect cell would slaughter them all.

    • @farizr.batarai8271
      @farizr.batarai8271 4 месяца назад

      Ok how about super perfect cell vs kratos

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BigJohn303greek gods slaughter that bug large universal vs solar system

    • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
      @DragonBallsolosyourverse 3 месяца назад

      Super perfect cell > zeus

  • @KirbyLinkACW
    @KirbyLinkACW 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm surprised you haven't done Son Goku vs the original mythical Sun Wukong.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Maybe I will

    • @909mcronald
      @909mcronald 4 месяца назад +1

      Goku get his destroy wukong to op

  • @camerontaylor2184
    @camerontaylor2184 4 месяца назад

    Nice video and interesting topic
    Might be weak argument but since there are still a few people who worship the Greek pantheon (estimates 1-2% of the population of Greece so about 100,000 estimated) and they still believe the things in the myths wouldn’t they scale to the current universe

  • @PrimitiveWrath
    @PrimitiveWrath 2 месяца назад

    You kinda said that Zeus got the ozzaru state which kinda messed up the argument, Vegeta should win due to speed advantages since they are relative.

  • @ickle1790
    @ickle1790 4 месяца назад +1

    the scenario presented at the start of the video was the gods vs vegeta amd nappa
    if raditz was there, hed have neg diffed frfr

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Had to silently remove him from the equation fr fr

  • @mr.goblin6039
    @mr.goblin6039 3 месяца назад

    Greek Gods are WILDLY inconsistent, cause in some myths they're all doing crazy stuff like turning a regular ass scorpion into a constellation or Zeus throwing lightning bolts so hard that he hurts the concept of Chaos itself, but in another myth Thanatos, the personification of DEATH, gets punked by a dude pulling a ''oh, what nice chains you have! Can I see them closely?'' before being stuffing the deity in a trunk like a wuss. DEATH gets punked in mythology. It's crazy.

  • @jonathanbenoit-mj9cv
    @jonathanbenoit-mj9cv 4 месяца назад +1

    The top tier greek gods in gow can go from high multiversal-low complex multiversal
    Not "potentially beyond universal"
    They are beyond universal casually

  • @AfroTsu
    @AfroTsu 4 месяца назад

    really enjoyed this video

  • @ShadowAtores
    @ShadowAtores 4 месяца назад +8

    I am surprised you didn't use the Solar System Meta for Vegeta, since you can scale the earth in dragon ball to solar system size based on statements from Dr. Slum which is canon to Dragon Ball. I don't know if you actually agree with the Meta but I just wanted to bring it up.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +4

      Yeah I don’t believe it’s valid

    • @CherryboyRUS
      @CherryboyRUS 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes Why?

    • @BigJohn303
      @BigJohn303 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@CherryboyRUS Because he doesn't like the thought of them being that strong so early in dbz. It's pretty obvious.

    • @CherryboyRUS
      @CherryboyRUS 4 месяца назад

      @@BigJohn303 Yeah, but still. And Piccolo Daimao with statements to destroy the Earth be like:

  • @redglint6451
    @redglint6451 4 месяца назад +2

    8:48
    Anyone know where are thoose images of the gods from?is it a book i can read? Also why do they look dark?? Have they been corrupted or sumthing?? Is it the shading? Most look good but kinda off idk im kinda curious about the franchise theyre from now lol

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +1

      It’s from the video game “Hades”

  • @Guy-iv2hw
    @Guy-iv2hw 4 месяца назад +2

    Do you really think that the Greeks wouldn't consider the universe infinite, if they had the present knowledge? How could Vegeta defeat any god, if they're all immortal? How would he win against Tanathos, who can kill him instantly?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +3

      I mean. We don’t consider the universe infinite today, if that’s what you mean.

    • @Guy-iv2hw
      @Guy-iv2hw 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes We don't? Did you skip physics classes?

    • @Guy-iv2hw
      @Guy-iv2hw 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes Observable universe isn't the same as the whole universe. Observable universe is finite, but it only means how far we can measure it. The whole universe is infinite, it was always infinite since the Big Bang and probably even before that and it will always be infinite, even in the scenario of the Big Crunch. Spatial infinity never changes, the only thing that changes is the compaction of the universe.

  • @Guardian_of_Chaos
    @Guardian_of_Chaos 4 месяца назад

    Ngl I think they’re at least universal but I can respect this since it heavily depends on the stories that one uses

  • @eduardopantoja9115
    @eduardopantoja9115 4 месяца назад

    I wonder how well the Norse Gods will do

  • @zachg5856
    @zachg5856 4 месяца назад +1

    i legit was like wait this is saiyan saga vegeta okay yeah u right lol made a entire paragraph before i was like saiyan saga okay yeah that checks out

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Sorry for making you have to delete a whole argument 😭

  • @thek-dawg2508
    @thek-dawg2508 22 дня назад

    I don't much like it when people say fictional characters scale above mythological ones. It's just disrespectful to the people who believed in it.
    Mythology>>>>>>>Fiction and its not close

  • @NonAryanDuck
    @NonAryanDuck 4 месяца назад

    Technically, you could get Vegeta to Solar System level if you take the statement of the earth being 4 billion km in size from the Dr. Slump series. Though, admittedly, I think it's exclusive to the anime.

  • @RS-bi1pc
    @RS-bi1pc 28 дней назад

    It's ironic watching this video where "infinite" is not treated as the modern day interpretation of infinite but rather what the culture of the time interpreted as infinite, but in the Sun Wukong video infinite is treated as the modern day interpretation of infinite which didn't really get started until the 1920s, and everything was taken at its most literal modern day interpretation for the sake of making Wukong as powerful as possible even though "infinite" was literally just a concept of how many unknowable things there are rather than the actuality of how many things there are.
    There's even a whole series of debates about infinity and Buddhism because it implies that there is no beginning of existence and that everyone alive has existed in the cycle of rebirth for an infinite amount of time which raises the question of why we aren't all buddhas if we're all infinite beings and is compared to the "infinite monkey theory" which states that even a monkey just randomly typing on a keyboard for an infinite amount of time will eventually create every text that has ever existed out of pure coincidence.
    I like some of the research shown in these videos, but man a lot seem to have some hypocritical bias and contradictory interpretations (let's also ignore the fact that some of the references used in this video were from Roman myths and not Greek).

  • @gamemastery3532
    @gamemastery3532 4 месяца назад +1

    can you do greek gods from GOW vs Someone from the DB.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад

      Might do Kratos vs Goku or sumn in the future

    • @TheRealVyke
      @TheRealVyke 4 месяца назад +1

      @@lonkstakesif you do that video, expect to get yelled at no matter who you have win.

  • @mizuki7078
    @mizuki7078 4 месяца назад +1

    So frieza in his final form, with his insane durability, telekinetic powers and 120 million powerlevel would be a better match!

  • @monoteozin
    @monoteozin 4 месяца назад

    This did make me wonder how Goku would fare against Sun Wukong... Though honestly. I'd say Wukong wins.

  • @TheEntertainmentKnight
    @TheEntertainmentKnight 4 месяца назад +5

    The Greek gods at their weakest one shot Saiyan saga Vegeta

    • @kai_9k
      @kai_9k 4 месяца назад

      Yeah no
      Zeus sure, but the other gods would get destroyed even at their strongest

    • @thanglauc
      @thanglauc 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kai_9k They are immortal so you know, Vegeta can't kill them.

    • @BigJohn303
      @BigJohn303 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@thanglauc immortal means nothing if you are so far below the being you are fighting its not even funny. Your just a fly buzzing around him.

    • @thanglauc
      @thanglauc 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@BigJohn303 Beerus literally said he can't kill immortals.

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 4 месяца назад

      @@BigJohn303 Hades,Poseidon,Ares are other powerful gods for sure

  • @Shane-hp2mv
    @Shane-hp2mv 4 месяца назад

    Based on this, I'm pretty sure Vegeta after Namek, or his 400x gravity training, would get the job done with neg difficulty. Super saiyan would be overkill at that stage.

  • @Bornwithadkrlman
    @Bornwithadkrlman 3 месяца назад

    Vegeta sends ki blast to planet and it explodes. End.

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime 3 месяца назад

    Poor Ares. Bro is supposed to be the god of war, but constantly gets fodderized.

  • @Apagogeas_Paidiwn
    @Apagogeas_Paidiwn 4 месяца назад

    I mean.... If a mortal ever saw zeus true form would just be decinegrated. So yeah he could solo not only saiyan saga but the entire granolah arc

  • @Midtier_Fortune
    @Midtier_Fortune 4 месяца назад +1

    Zeus aint happy with that super saiyan statement, stay in your house during the rain bro 🙏

  • @Brayxedit
    @Brayxedit 3 месяца назад +1

    I think vegeta is solar system cause it proof that earth 4 billion km or solar system

  • @simeon8814
    @simeon8814 4 месяца назад +3

    In the z anime, Nappa was a 7500 and Raditz a 1200 as far as I Remember, also the statement from El Manga Leggendario in that case would apply Just to the manga, not that It changes the scaling you presented but as you said, King Vegeta can destroy planets by waving hands, I think that's One of the cases where a guide can apply only to its own timeline

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  4 месяца назад +2

      Nappa’s only stated power level is 4000

    • @simeon8814
      @simeon8814 4 месяца назад

      @@lonkstakes I did recheck, I recalled wrong about Nappa

  • @Cosmic-Sage
    @Cosmic-Sage 4 месяца назад +1

    why put zeus at his best but not vegeta?? doesn't make sense Hakai vegeta would destroy zeus instantly

    • @gigawarman12
      @gigawarman12 3 месяца назад +2

      He's specifically referring to Saiyan Saga Vegeta for the video

    • @Cosmic-Sage
      @Cosmic-Sage 3 месяца назад

      @@gigawarman12 I see thank you. It just doesn't seem fair lol. Zeus is a god so he's pretty stacked. Why not put God of destruction Vegeta instead would be better fight. Thank you for the info 👍🏾

  • @brettgelk7991
    @brettgelk7991 3 месяца назад +1

    You capping when the only way Zeus can win is with a severely handicapped vegeta

  • @ShangaelThunda222
    @ShangaelThunda222 4 месяца назад

    It really depends on if you consider the gods planetary or higher. If they are only planetary-star level, they are probably screwed. But if they are beyond star level, let alone Universal+ entities, Vegeta is absolutely boned lol.

  • @thatsinteresting3415
    @thatsinteresting3415 4 месяца назад

    Zeus bends his father's arm to send him to the past, so he can just become Vegeta's father.