Why Gliscor is Absurdly Powerful in Gen 9.
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- Why Gliscor is Absurdly Powerful in Gen 9.
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With the release of the Teal Mask DLC in Pokemon Scarlet & Violet, there was a whole new meta and inside of it. The DLC featured many returning Pokemon, one of them being the infamous Gliscor. Gliscor prior to Gen 9, was famous for annoying opponents with its longevity with poison heal while keeping offensive pressure with Earthquake and Knock off. While it does share the same type as Landorus-Therian, Gliscor offers a lot of differnt things and still helps it make it valuable. With now new HUGE buffs introduced to this flying creature in Gen 9, it will potential and abusrd power has been taken to another level. Let me know in the comments below what you guys think of Gliscor in Gen 9.
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Gliscor aging like a fine wine
Meanwhile freaking Tyranitar and Garchomp keep shifting tiers.
Edit: As of today, Garchomp is now officially OU. Insane
@@realmdarknessGarchomp has been OU the whole gen
@@realmdarknessTTars fall is to be expected with the advent of fairy-types, the loss of pursuit, weather becoming overall less all-encompassing on the meta, and the ability to use defensive tera types in gen 9, this is not to mention that a good third or so of Pokémon are water types
Yeah Garchomp is becoming the new Ttar in a way, ...
Furthermore I think Tyranitar deserves Pursuit back...
@@TempestsFurymy bums really big
Gen 9 OU got the biggest powercreep of any generation with new threats like kingambit, iron valiant, great tusk or ogerpon to name a few. Gliscor will just be "good" in OU and won't be an overbearing addition to the current metagame. I'd say it's actually a nice addition because it open more choices for your defensive core and is a check to many of the most used pokemons in OU.
Gliscor is the best Pokemon in OU.
this is my take too. I think if Gliscor still had roost and defog it would be more of a permanent pick. I also haven’t had much issue dealing with gliscors in the ladder myself, but that’s probably because I always run ice spinner great tusk
Gliscor will probably get suspect tested
@@i_like_chomp6382Why? It lost roost and defog along with it checking a lot of very potent pokemon. It feels good to have this guy back.
@@Wedgez In no universe is Roost-less Gliscor the BEST Pokémon in this tier lol
I find it funny that gf might have predicted that ppl would run tera water on gliscor so they gave them crabhammer
Right lol, I tried choice band hyper cutter with it and it does aight
Nah, Tera Water is just that common, plus it has pincers, Crabhammer just fits.
😭these comments are wild who tf is running crabhammer game freak giving crabhammer to gliscor is pure flavour it getting crabhammer does nothing to help it competitively at all why run that ever even on SD sets even if Terra water just run eq Facade
Gliscor’s a Pokémon where you can pretty much do whatever you want, and it’ll be good. You can have it be a hazard lead, you can have it be a staller, or my personal favorite, you can have it be a Swords Dance sweeper with good STABs and a bonus coverage of something like Aqua Tail, U-Turn, Stone Edge, or even Facade. This mon is gonna do great things this Gen, just as always
No need for aqua tail since it gets crab hammer that does more damage and has the same accuracy
Oh. Didn’t know that. Even better
Crabhammer also has a higher chance for crits.
Loved that little guy ever since Platinum, helping me deal with Cynthia’s ‘chomp.
Brilliant!
Saw a combo set with Fling and Acrobatics, cuz the Toxic Orb isn't needed after turn 1
Im surprised you didn’t mention that it gets scale shot to help out its speed - sure I could see some issues, but your defense is already high so swords dance then scale shot to increase speed then sweeping from there seems worth exploring for fun at minimum
there are just much better options for a sd scale shot sweeper, gliscor is much better suited to a defensive role.
it's not suited for the role but if you really want to go boost sweeping just use rock polish
Scale shot gliscor is not a real set. Come on now
Garchomp does Scale Shot better
Well it's definitely not gonna be the best set on Gliscor it could be a pretty fun off meta set so like go ahead man
I wonder if mons like Scizor and Gliscor will regain Roost again at some point.
I hope so because (at least for Gliscor) it would make perfect sense
also 210BP Facade truly slaps
Scizor needs it more IMO
Still waiting for the Galarian birds roost. Yes, Moltres too.
Yeah, it got really nice stuff. Both spikes and Scale Shot are a great addition.
No roost though. That's very unfortunate. Relying on Toxic Heal to stay healthy may not be optimal.
It's already a damn headache to deal with WITHOUT healing, giving it roost would make it completely over the top.
@@felixdaniels37 and that's how we have to deal with it in Older generations
Since it can't get roost poison heal is the most optimal way.
It never used roost too much before anyways
@@connorbosley4431 gliscor has always been 100% poison heal tf u on about lol
Gliscor coming back was nice! This thing was a problem in earlier Gens, so I'm actually glad it lost Roost. I saw a stall set that ran Substitute, Fling, Roost, and Earthquake. Giving it Toxic Spikes will make it better at setting & keeping hazards, better than Fling or Toxic. Swords Dance is also a critical move on Gliscor sets so I'm glad that got mentioned. Nice coverage video on a total monster.
Never understood running roost anyway, protect is a much better alternative. May not let you heal as much but it bugs you time and let's you scout your opponent's plans.
@@bigmonke3348 That's how I feel too, rly. That 1/8th Poison Heal is good and as you mentioned, Protect is better for scouting and it has better PP. Gliscor is good and I'm glad he came back! But, I dont think this gen is prepared for the menace lol
Did some Terra Raids where my parties were absolutely baffled by this thing x D Meanwhile, I'm riding Metronome Mudsdale to victory like "oh yall didnt know?"
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Gliscor's always been the best support Pokemon for lots of my teams since gen 5. His typing is so good that he can tank so many hits and stall out lots of Pokemon with toxic protect. I guess now he has to do that with toxic spikes, but it's still a similar idea.
HE'S MY GOAT RAAAAAAAAGH
Probably my favorite pokemon of all time. It's so nice seeing him still be able to find a place all these years later
🦇Thanks for the new build ideas! My shiny Gliscor has been with me since Kalos back in 2013. Very fun Pokémon! Will have to rebuild him a bit since his gen 6 move set isn’t as viable.
Always happy to see Gliscor doing well.
While the powercreep at the start of the generation was staggering, I like that Teal Mask seems to be making strides in bringing otherwise forgotten mons back up to try and hold a candle to what the metagame is offering.
My favourite lead is a fast knock off Pokemon to just deny poison heal. Sure sometimes they protect, but then I just set up either hazards or boosts
Swords dance + facade back in Gen 6 was insanely op, I built one my self in my X game and I loved it
Gliscor is a top five Pokémon for me, I’m glad to see he’s STILL dominating… can’t really say the same for the other Gen 2-4 evolutions.
The main problem is the sheer omnipresence of Chien Pao, it won’t blow through everyone solely because of the bobcat of ruin
This was such a good video I was wondering why I was struggling against these airborne arachnids
Good to see another strong ground type. I new it has going to be good this gen considering Landorus lost most of its utility options.
please do a video about gallarian weezing.
I believe that this pokemon may be more relevant this generation compared to the past generations thanks to the neutralizing gas ability.
if this pokemon switches to gliscor, gliscor will get the toxic damage based on how many turns it has stayed on the field without switching (if it stays of 15 turns it will take 15/16 of its health as damage, which is the maximum damage a badly healed pokemon can take).
it is also able of using defog without having to worry about gholdengo.(the only other pokemon that can do that is hawlucha which is pretty fragile and not that powerful).
it may occasionally prevent pelliper torkoal and ninetails alola from setting up rain sun and snow with their abilities, but it needs to be on the field at the same time as they are.
it can safely set hazards without being scared of hatterenne bouncing them back.
it can cause gholdengo and garganacl to be burned(garganacl can even be poisoned with toxic) and cause clefable to receive damage from either toxic or burn, and hazards.
it can taunt gholdengo(I am not sure if that's a good idea, but it is possible).
it takes less damage from samurot and azumaril.
it can prevent toxapex regenerator users from getting free healing if they switch out.
I don't think that it is ever going to see enough play to make it to OU, but it is always going to have a niche there.
Juuuust gonna screenshot that deffensive set ty
Gliscor is my favorite Pokémon and boy do I love seeing it shine
Nice, time to invest in a Gliscor again. Been awhile since I utilized this mon.
Johto kid here so I’m happy Gliscor is back. True my sandstorm team isn’t any good nowadays but I still HAVE the Mom’s for it now
They should've kept roost, this post has been sponsored by Big Stall™
Try the following set then:
Ability: Toxic Heal
Item: Toxic Orb
Nature: Jolly
EVs: (HP 252) (Def 4) (Speed 252)
Moves: Toxic, Substitute, Protect, Earthquake
Thanks to Toxic Heal's 1/8 recovery each turn, if you alternate between using Substitute and Protect you can stall indefinitely with no HP loss while Toxic steadily takes out your opponent. So long as you move faster than your opponent and they do not have access to Taunt or sound based moves they won't be able to hurt you. And Earthquake is there to handle the Poison and Steel types immune to Toxic.
I loved using gliscor in competitive gen 6. Absolute monster of a staller. Protect, substitute, toxic, and earthquake just for an offensive option.
It got Crab Hammer! So going tera water feels like it's both a great defensive and offensive pivot
My favorite mon getting that clap back dog mentality
i’m a big gliscor guy, and seeing him get some love made my day:D
Love the sky scorpion
To me, Gliscor felt similar to that of Sableye/Mega Sableye Stall from back awhile ago
But more versatile, and easier to build with/build around😁😁
also it gets crab hammer now
hes my favorite poke so im bias. so happy to see him shine again in OU
My defensive gliscor who didn't have roost: i see this as an absolute win
The loss of Roost gutted my favorite build of Gliscor though. Rest in peace
I swear I remembered gliscor as bug/rock lol
Gliscor is so bulky it’s one of my favourites for teams in general it just takes such a beating and still throws damage back
It's damage feels mid but it has such good moves that it makes up for the lack of offensive investment
Gliscor proudly repping his secret 3rd poison type all the way to the bank.
So many good Pokémon with buffs
Gliscor and Ambipom eating good. Ash was cooking 😉
So glad my favorite pokemom ever is relavent
after missing from gen 8, I'm glad to see Gliscor doing good in rn
Gliscor is one of my all time favorite mons. I could not be happier seeing it do well.
My favorite pokemon ever
Toxic spikes are really mid with all the good poison types available and corviknight getting more popular and completely unthreatened by gliscor, the most common set is actually eq, regular toxic(it hits the target in front of you and guaranteed toxics it instead of potentially regular poisoning it), protect, and filler(depending on your team's needs either knock off or one of the other hazards, stealth rock if you don't already have a user otherwise regular spikes for their spammability), I've played with and against a lot of gliscor and only saw one tspikes that I just spun away with alolan sandslash. Basically if you really want toxic spikes run glimmora otherwise run more consistent hazards and status and you'll do great.
Utility is typically better than raw stats.
Celebi always sucks because of movepool.
Zamazenta, a box art legendary, is useable in ou because of movepool.
On thenopposite end. Tinkaton is in UU because of great movepool
Smeargle is used in VGC every year because of movepool despite abysmal stats.
the sword dog with two moves and immense attack would disagree
I’m happy my favorite Pokémon continues to kick ass in OU regardless of generation
Hi all im going to be building a gliscor swords dance team and i want to help with speed gap by using galvantula Sticky web. Got an tips on good teammates to support? I was thinking Clefable, Wellspring Ogerpon, maybe Incineroar and/ Volcanion. Having trouble with ideas.
Clefable in general is a good support mon(think twave moonlight moonblast and 4th move). If galvantula is sticky webs lead then give it sash and have gholdengo so your hazards cant get spinned or defogged
For what interaction are the 16 EV's in Sp. Def. if I may ask?
Shadow balls from pult I think
I don't think gliscor became powerful in gen 9, it has always been tanky, strong and annoying with poison heal, same sh*it, different game
who knew that the best universal progress move (spikes) is overbearing when it's on a pokemon that gets tons of free turns because it stick around forever
I also just ducking love this Pokémon
252+ atk tera normal swords dance facade boutta go harder
I'm happy that gliscor is in scarlet and violet and I use it in Pokemon showdown
I'm not sure whether this is the most aware or least aware Game Freak has been of competitive battling.
Can't believe Gliscor got Knock but Lando continues to be denied. My poor boy... 🦇
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Tried a tera normal facade gliscor too which actually made a fun sweeper build 😂
There are 2 Pokémon with poison heal, and both are stupid good
As a NatDex UU player, I am still malding that NDOU took 2 of our best bulky ground types. We are running out of ways to beat Sand.
Other stall mons: our Recover got nerfed
Gliscor with Protect: ok lol
Gliscor didn't have spikes and crab hammer either before, no?
I really had fun running hyper cutter choice band tera water
Equake/crab hammer/u turn/knock off or dual wing beat
🦇 I don't think gliscor is op just annoying and I think not buffing landerous is a good call by game both have different role landerous is a fast and bulk wall break and gliscor is an unmovable object
Tbh even when he had roost i would always use protect instead of roost
It's funny how hit or miss the sinnoh evolutions of old pokemon can be. Magmortar and Electivire are awful but Tangrowth, Mamoswine, and Gliscor are amazing.
So what you’re saying is Gliscor has longevity
What I love about Gliscor is that now with Terastelization, it can perfectly counter Glimmora leads later in the game.
1. Go Tera "anything that isn't Steel, Flying, or Poison"
2. Switch out Gliscor
3. Kill Glimmora.
4. Congratulations, you can now poison Gliscor without needing a Toxic Orb
Again, it's very dependent on if your opponent DOES have Glimmora.
But like, with Leftovers, that's 3/16 of your health restored every turn.
That's good.
I mean yea would be great but it’s never gonna happen and if it does I doubt it would impact the game because I’m assuming the enemy knows what ur trying, you also have to terra gliscor only
luckily this is my favorite pokemon
I wish that gliscor had twice longer legs
So I've been away from the competitive scene for a long time, so forgive my ignorance, but at 6:39, did I just see Furret in OU?
It'll drop soon, it's becuase it's a DLC addition, therefore it's OU for now.
@@duplexspy9731 Oh, right. Thanks for letting me know.
It has been fun to use toxic Gliscor to 1v1 physical attackers
Gliscor loses roost and yet he persists
Give it dual wingbeat and headlong Rush 😤😤😤
It has dual wingbeat
@@thevalkyriemercenary9463 Then it needs an even stronger flying stab, king deserve the best
@Eltipoquevisteayer I mean it also has acrobatics to, what I did with mine is let it fling the toxic orb after being poisoned, use protect to heal then hit them with a 110 base power acrobatics
man a mon regenerating 1/8 HP each turn and being immune to status is never gonna be bad huh
especially with those defences.
Its crazy how Gliscor is actually better than Lando-T in this gen
Gyatterene? What Pokémon is that? 1:35
Brings a tier to my eyes..get it?
Just say earthquake. You sound like you're saying eat queue
I don't know if I expect a ban, but wonder if this'll be one of the rare times we see a defensive 'mon get at least suspected. Conditions might be right for it.
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i love how all sinnoh pokemon have been boosted so much. I run empoleon on ou and its competitive ability just kills. Rip to dragpult, torterra, ribombee, glimorra, gholdengo and everybody else. Just switch him in on sticky web
It doesn’t get roost anymore, tragedy
Why?
Yeah who would have thought that one of the most historically infuriating Pokemon to take down would be even more annoying when it can remove its weaknesses.
I used to play Gliscor alot in gen 7 OU.
Knowing that he comed back stronger that ever makes me happy!
(Landorus don't deserve to exist)
I wish Gliscor got Leech Life I would love for that to happen 😂
That would make a lot of sense since it is loosely based on a vampire
But the buffs aren't enough to outweigh the loss of Roost. It's still great, but the loss of Roost is still a huge detriment
honestly i think its spread is just fast and bulky enough that an sd agility set could work with stone edge and earthquake with poison heal
it didn't even run roost consistently in the past, it's not a huge loss
I've almost never seen it NOT run Roost@@rajkanishu
@@blackdot105 i've used it as a sweeper with success (see my other reply)
@@dashingclasher For a Sweeper set yeah, but it's usually used defensively.
IT GOT TOXIC SPIKES? Ohhhh hell yeah screw Glimmora, ill run this instead
When Empoleon and Dunsparce can roost now but not Gliscor... 🤨
Petition for RUclipsrs to have showdown in dark mode
Gliscor isn't broken, in doubles is not very good.
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If fezentidpiti gets roost so should gliscor
It doesn’t matter gliscor is the new lando T now
gliscorus therian
7:30 i mean… gliscor is cool and all, but more valuable then lando-t? that’s where i’m going to have to disagree with you.
I wish they buffed it’s hp to 101 Ngl
New and reintroduced?
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