How GREAT was Aegislash ACTUALLY? - History of Aegislash in Competitive Pokemon
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At long last, False Swipe Gaming covers its original Mascot!
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0:00 - Intro
1:19 - XY/Gen 6
8:33 - Gen 6 VGC
14:45 - SM/Gen 7
16:02 - Gen 7 VGC
18:07 - SS/Gen 8
25:43 - Gen 8 VGC
25:58 - Outro
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It’s really a testament to how insane Aegislash was that it was the first Pokémon since GSC to get its stats reduced between generations LOL
You mean GSC because of the special Split right?
@@davidfelez7575Yes, since for example, Gyarados lost 40 points in its Special Attack stat since the special stat was split into 2.
TWICE, which is sad because even with 150 he prob wouldnt have been banned to ubers in sword and shield
@@IgnitedQuils yeah I remember that because of Ninetales and Arcanine, they went for almost equal bst (only 10 points difference) to 50 points difference, despite being counterparts
@@IgnitedQuilsmeanwhile tangela be like...
I swear to God, the King’s Shield-Swords Dance-Shadow Sneak is a true combo. It’s insane how good use of Aegislash means that it effectively has no weaknesses.
Back when X/Y first game out and everyone was mindlessly spamming banded Talonflame, i just used King's Shield + Swords Dance to exploit that brainlet play and then just Shadow Sneak sweep since i usually got away with 3 Dances (1 for the first weakened Flare Blitz, 1 for the super weakened Flare Blitz, and 1 on the switch when my opponent finally realized what was happening). It astounds me how long and often that worked, almost like clockwork.
Bro I’ve never laughed so hard 😂😂
In gen 6 it was basically the "perfect" Pokemon.
@joshuakim5240 being fair that is also a pretty brain dead play too soooo. No offence but both mons were pretty brain dead
This is why Aegislash is far and away my favorite Pokémon
When I first saw Honedge in the wild in X and Y, I expected it to be a solid contributor to my playthrough team. Aegislash exceeded all expectations.
As someone who also used Aegislash in x and y recently, that turns out has very bad IVs, it exceeded my expectations
It also completely counters Korrina. She can’t touch it and it gets Aerial Ace through level up lmao
@@marzbar5877 What Honedge can do to Korrina should count as war crimes.
Utter violation.
Same! I was just like "Awe, what a cute sword, I wanna level it"
Imagine if it came out in Gen 5 where it would be neutral to ghost and dark attacks
I shudder at that thought
fighting immunity and poison immunity. Can hit hard, lack of resistance to dual stab. Probably ubers.
@@GM.Nobody”Probably” Ubers?
@@GM.Nobody Only probably? With max HP it lives an Adamant max attack Excadrill EQ and KOs back with Sacred Sword. If Gen 6 and Gen 7 OU couldn't stop this thing, no way Gen 5 could either. Sand immunity too of course because why not, and you can pursuit trap all the psychics.
I'm 90% sure that Steel no longer resisting Dark and Ghost was _entirely_ because of Aegislash. So in that situation, the change would've been made a generation earlier 🤣
Insider reporting say the nerf to Aegislash was orchestrated by the sinister paradox Pokémon “Old Money”. Perhaps this sabotage’s purpose was to set the stage for Old Money’s gen 9 prodigy “Gholdengo” to become the premier ghost/steel Pokémon.
I love this comment
this is insane
Should've named it dirty deeds done dirt cheap
Jimothy cool 😏
@@thegreatscribbles960D4C! LOVE TRAIN!
I've never seen a pokemon that came out at such a perfect time in competitive, Fairy types, mega Kangaskhan, the current state of steel types overall. Aegislash was literally honed to perfection around X and Y competitive.
honed... honedge? ;)
As much as I love Aegislash , it(as well as Gholdengo) is a *big* testament to why I always make sure that a Pokemon I’m planning to use has a way to hit steel types for at least neutral damage, because the Steel/Ghost type combination can absolutely ruin you if you don’t have a way to deal with it.
Especially when you’re running Fighting coverage but they’re immune to it due to the Ghost typing.
Tbf skill issue, 99% of teams are running ground and at least two knock offs
Special attacking fire types deserve a place on every team (Volcarona moment)
Fire types?
Glad I always have a fire starter
Gotta love how Aegislash's Sword Stance has 60 Base Speed and yet it doesn't suffer the Rampardos Theorem, how unique and lucky.
It helps that Aegislash can literally shield its weak points the instant its enemy tries to attack it.
Shadow sneak helps a lot
It has an amazing defensive type and movepool.
It's got priority to get around it. And the ability to tank hits thanks to shield forme.
not only does it not suffer from low speed, instead it benefits from it by tanking hits with 150/150 defenses (or 140/140 post SWSH) and then being able to retaliate back with 150/150 (140/140) offenses. insane mon
Gamefreak really said “what if we made a slow Deoxys, but it also has the defenses of registeel”
Not mentioned in the video, but when aegislash dropped to UU the first time, doublade was already running the tier. Definitely not a mime/rime situation, but it was still funny that father and son were in UU at one point.
The entire line of honedge doublade and aegislash has to be one of the coolest designed pokemon ever. I always thought it paved the way for other possibilities when it came to possessed weapon pokemon like maybe a fire rod or scythe.
I once drew many alternate evos for honedge, like for example Hexcalibur or cursaber
Its funny to me how fans can in the same breath be like “this pokemon sucks its literally just keys” and “this pokemon is awesome it’s literally a possessed sword!”
@@tipaps Two guys are running at you, which one is more scary? The one with just a set of keys in his hand or the one with a sword that has blood running off it & a mouth that's screaming at you?
@@MrInternetHermit and then the key proceeds to wall a literal god of life
Be fr
@@MrInternetHermit do the keys have prankster twave?
Both of the Steel/Ghosts have been incredible in both competitive and design
hell naw the string cheese man looks goofy af
@@ecstaticwooper368are you high it's a golden god
@@dbt4869 yeah a golden god that looks like a fucking string cheese mascot from the 90's
@@ecstaticwooper368Well, You're Not Wrong.
@@Stringspuller88 Thank U Capital Letters Kid
Kevin is such a great writer, that never ending nightmare line was incredible
He doesn't do the writing, he has writers
@@TheAdministrator19 kevin is the name of false swipe’s writer
@@TheAdministrator19Kevin (BKC) is the primary writer.
@@chrisdrums1910 oh yeah I confused it with Kellen, my bad
Aegislash has been the scariest Pokémon to me since I learned how it was in competitive. When I played Pokémon X, it was ON SIGHT even if it couldn’t hurt me the same way.
Aegislash being introduced in gen 6 and being overpowered is crazy. Imagine how it and the other steel ghosts Gholdengo would have done in the generations before the steel nerf
Instant quick ban to ubers for both of them.
@@SJradI kinda wouldn't mind removing the latter as it is.
@@1stCallipostle agreed. An annoyance to battle against.
I think Aegislash was the reason steel was nerfed in the first place (that and the introduction of fairy) no way we're they releasing this mon without significant counterplay to it in gen 6.
I think Aegislash was the reason steel was nerfed in the first place (that and the introduction of fairy) no way we're they releasing this mon without significant counterplay to it in gen 6.
After 5 years, the mascot gets its spotlight.
Aegislash's lack of VGC placements also was partially due to dynamax not being as favorable for it. Heatran wasn't good in generation 8, because things could output too much power with dynamax for its liking, and aegislash may have just been a victim of that as well.
Max Guard also didn't put Aegislash back into shield form for reasons science can't explain(even if the base move you used was king's shield)
Aegislash was horrible in dynamax formats
That's what happened. It wasnt a dynamax sweeper and Max quake was too much for It to be a defensive or support mon. It could Still came back to vgc. But It also could gain back its stats, due to not being as oppresive.
@@znerd3664technically you could form some miniscule niche vs swordfish vs this because it hard walls the dog and it can help vs ogre with wide guard but even in restricted I agree Aegis was doodoo
Honestly you just had to be there. This thing was absolutely monstrous when X&Y dropped
The channel mascot (and my favorite pokemon in the process) is finally here.
All hail the unofficial mascot of Gen 8
Some of the most fun I ever had on Showdown was in the early days of X and Y OU and you’d get the Aegislash mirror. With you and your opponent trying to out predict one another with King’s Shield, Swords Dance and Shadow Sneak. It actually felt like participating in an actual sword fight to some degree. Constantly predicting as to weather you should strike, parry or power up!
Happy Halloween! I always loved this spooky sword. Im sure it scares competitive players too
Garchomp: "nooo you can't put me in UU, I'll have you know I was in ubers in my own generation!"
Aegislash: "first time?"
There's something hilarious about the fact that Aegislash, a sword Pokémon, can be run as a special attacker extremely effectively.
better than it having 140 in any of its other stats tbh
I pray everyday for more Pokémon to have as cool of a stance swap as this. This was a beautifully hype pokemon I loved getting destroyed by.
I really want to bring back aegislash to gen 6 power level in gen 9. The current format could use an op aegislash right now. We need it back
I am legitimately confused as to why there were people who didn't want Aegislash in Ubers. Yeah, it's that good. It deserves to go against legendaries.
If it's in Ubers, it's not in the standard metagame anymore so you can't use it in normal battles under Smogon's rules
Because is a regular ass Pokémon, it's like wanting a Uber Butterfree
Except not really because butterfree is miserably bad and aegislash can 1v1 god
@@cristhianmlrwhat a horrible comparison
@cristhianmlr pls abolish the idea of only legendary good/overpowered, some legendaries are actually really bad and some non legendaries are insanely strong the label is meaningless for gameplay
The first time people saw Honedge it was a target of the tired old meme defense "huhuhuh, gen wunn had dezighns like magnet", but once it turned into Aegislash _no one_ was laughing. It's absolutely one of XY's best new Pokémon both design wise and usage wise.
If _Game Freak_ saw fit to balance something by directly reducing its stats, you just know it's a force to be reckoned with.
My man Aegislash dodging those UU bans and causing mayhem in UU lol. He's one of my favorite pokemon!
Aegislash in UU really went "I'm not stuck in here with you.... YOU'RE ALL STUCK IN HERE WITH ME."
Ahhh, finally, it only took a couple years of wait, but at last, THE menace of X and Y has finally made his debut into the series! Keep it up!
Best part is it's such a Menace but everyone loves it because it's so fun and has a fantastic design, a damn near perfect pokemon imo
You ever notice how gen 6 Pokemon became so insanely meta defining that GameFreak felt the need to go overboard with the nerfs.?
For e.g, Greninja, Talonflame, Aegislash, Sylveon etc
The Pixilate nerf wasn't that drastic, all its similar abilities got equally nerfed
Mega salamence in vgc was the sole reason for that. Megas aren't even around anymore and the others still have to deal with that nerf.
I love these vids, because the more of them you watch, the more you see Pokémon from these videos, and that has made it so much easier to genuinely be able to see how all these different Pokémon interacted and defined the metas of their time, please keep up the incredible work man ❤️
Players: How do we kill you?
Aegislash: That’s the best part. You don’t.
In essence, Aegislash is the Brawl Meta Knight of competitive Pokèmon
Nah that’s GSC Snorlax
Fitting since both have swords
I genuinely adore this 'Mon. It did so much work for me in Pokemon Y from its very introduction into my team. Shame about the nerf, but it's still a hell of a Pokemon.
The fact that a Mon with an effective BST of 680 ended up in UU is frankly ridiculous. This franchise's metagame never fails to astound me with how complex it is sometimes.
Of note, Aegislash and hydreigon made an excellent pairing in Gen 6 VGC formats because together, they resisted or were immune to every single type in the game (including ground due to hydreigon's levitate ability)
Aegislash is crazy great I think it's one of maybe 20 Pokemon that got into Ubers. This was in Gen 6 where power was really high with a lot of options unlike early generations
My favorite pokemon. The fact that THE Sword and Shield pokemon got a historic bst reduction in Pokemon Sword and Shield ironically is a travesty I'll never forgive
What a treat for Halloween, the video they finally cover my boy Aegislash. The channel mascot of FSG and my favourite Pokemon along with Swampert :)
Been waiting for this one for YEARS! Happy halloween everyone!
At last, FSG's mascot mon takes the center stage! And it says a lot that its stats were outright nerfed in future generations.
Edit: it's also incredibly ironic that Aegislash's stats were first nerfed in Sword and Shield.
One of my favorite gen 6 pokémon, its finally in this channel. Great way to end the spooky month btw
I never played pokemon competitively but I remember loving aegislash with a weakness policy, purposefully switching in on a super effective move or tanking one during swords dance to blow through teams
One thing that idk was covered in the XY section was how well aegis paired with keldeo. This was a pursuiter that fully beat the lati twins, slowtwins, mega lucario, any deoxys, jellicent, celebi, medi, gard, basically anything that beat keldeo through bulk or revenge killing aegis could trap for fear of losing ur keldeo checks and getting scald funnied later in the game. It could also subtoxic and aegis all over everybody who the hell allowed this for so damn long
4:28
Both pursuit and subtoxic were mentioned here
I think a cool video could be explaining the effects of field conditions (entry hazards, terrain, weather, trick room, etc)
So basically reading Bulbapedia entries?
@@enoyna1001In the context of how they impacted the competitive scene. The weather wars of Gen 5 alone would probably have enough material for a beefy video.
Im so happy that you finally made a video on such a cool pokemon!
Ghost is my favorite type and Aegislash is one of if not my favorite. Most not only due to viability, but just due to theme, lore, ability, and aesthetic.
Finally! My favourite pokemon of all time, I've been watching this channel for over a year now just waiting for How Good was Aegislash Actually. Turns out even better than I could have hoped. Thanks again for another great video.
I would like to add to the gen 8 vgc section that aegislash was never used because of dynamax being very bad for it. It was a terrible user of dynamax and got hit really by the extra powerfull dynamax moves. I still have hope for its returns (if it does) in gen 9
Yeah, that ain’t happening. Sorry.
A bit late for that, unfortunately
I watch every single one of your videos and I love them, but it would be great if you spoke more on some of the counters it came up against during its dominant eras too. Keep up the great work!
That’s the thing with Aegislash, though: it had next to zero reliable counters.
Do you not know how busted a Pokémon has to be to have its stats nerfed?…
The 1st pokemon to be nerfed
Happy Halloween False Swipe Gaming! There is no better way to celebrate it than to analyze how amazing Aegislash was and still is.
The 1st Honedge I encountered on Route 6 in Y ended up being a shiny. I was so dang happy to have Shiny Aegislash for my ingame team. Aeglislash has perfect offensive and defensive typing. Aegislash is so dang good that steel types had to be nerfed just to account for its existence. Even when it was given a stat nerf in SS, it still was incredible. It's sub/toxic sets and ability to check the Slowtwins, Slowtwins Galarian counterparts, Buzzswole, Rillaboom, and others ensured it would never be dead weight even in metagame extremely hostile to its traits. When it's reintroduced in SV, it will have to compete with the amazing Gholdengo but will be able to establish a niche all of its own thanks to its stance dance abilities in conjunction with tera. If Aegislash gained Poltergheist and knock off, it would have the offensive and utility prowess comparable to SM. Here's hoping Aegislash returns better than ever in Indigo Disk.
Aegi has been my favorite since x and y, still is my favorite and my favorite shiny pokemon, seeing "how great" in the title makes me so damn happy 😭
"A good defense is a great offense"
-A damn sword
Sadly it probably would have been power creep even without the nerfs
This is the first Pokémon ever who got his stats nerfed!
(If you dont count the physical/special split on gen 2)
Aegislash is so good and i love using him in Sun and Moon
i use him with Malamar and Brutal Swing to play offense while on defense
Incineroar on the back and competitive Milotic and Mimikyu as trick room setter
Been a long time coming. Can't wait to see good my favourite mon was.
Hope they consider undoing the nerf to Aegislash's stats at some point considering the newer stuff they've allowed to wreak havoc
Highly doubt it
Hear me out… make stance change defensive variant half dmg taken and change the offensive variant to give an adaptability boost
150 was too much. 140 is not enough. How about we compromise with 145?
You’re right… but compared to the last 2 gens powercreep? 150 wouldn’t be enough in ou
Nope, that marketing team don’t like old Pokémon unless it’s nostalgic Charizard and Mewtwo to take away the attention of the new generation, otherwise it will impact sales
One of my favorite pokemons, such a cool design and concept
I have been waiting for this vid for years. Such a cool mon
toxic, king's shield, substitute, and shadow sneak. leftovers, max ev's on both defenses, adament for the ss damage. it was a PAIN to deal with!! i also tried a choice band variant with iron head, head smash, sacred sword, and shadow claw. it would pretty much one shot and then switch out. it got so many by surprise!!
Aegislash is just amazing in whatever game it ends up in.
Mainlike Pokemon? Great.
Pokken? One of the best characters
Unite? A solid All-Rounder
My goat and one of my favorite shinies (managed to get one during XY wondertrades, though it probably is hacked/genned, i still treasure it).
My favorite mon! Such an awesome both in design and in competetive!
Alas, our king has fallen before Paldea. Fortunately, a successor was left in his wake.
Usually, it's better to be faster than your opponent's pokemon. But in Aegislash's case, being slower actually benefits it.
Aegislash's bad performance in Gen 8 VGC is more because King's Shield doesn't work in Dynamax.
That's the funny thing about most fully evolved Ghost types; a lot of them know how to scare you (competitively) and Aegislash is the highest up there.
Happy Halloween
Oh hey, your channel mascot finally gets a turn!
Hey, you finally did the mascot!
I’ve been waiting for this one for ages yes
AHHHHHHHHH, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Aegislash is absolutely Goated an example of a phenomenal designed Pokémon with a fun ability
I hope Pokémon design more Pokémon like this
I'm playing Emerald Rogue and Aegislash consistently puts in the numbers. Protecting against moves is *vital* in a game where fainting is extremely punishing, and the attack drop from King's Shield can open up opportunities to switch in allies that can set up on the weakened opponent.
Lets go the Channel Mascot finally got their video!
Really love my Aegislash in 3DS. All the breeding time paid off when I got a good one. Very easy to use even online just make sure to get your prediction right. Also good in Battle Tree in Gen 7.
1 HP shirt.
The first thing in my mind is the low HP theme from Gen 5.
Best low HP theme
Here's to looking forward to How Great was Gengar next Halloween. I've been wanting this for a long time now.
YESSSSSSS!! I’VE WAITED FOR THIS MOMENT
If you consider its defense stats from Shield form and offense stats from Blade form, then prior to gen 8 Aegislash had a BST of 720 (same as Arceus) because it could effectively have 60/150/150/150/150/60 stats
Goat
he already said that multiple times...
Ohhh I've been waiting for this one for a while now
Ay, my favorite mon! Now all I need is a "ZapMolCuno Theorum aka Why Gimmicks Are Everything" video where you talk about Infinite Fusions and I'll be complete.
If my Pfp is anything to go off of, Ive been looking forward to this.
The irony is not lost on me that the sword and shield Pokémon got knocked down a peg in Sword and Shield.
Still terrifying nonetheless.
I had success at a local tournament with a Three Attack Swords Dance Set.
I also got a shiny honedge during the breeding process. Unfortunately, I lost the cartridge containing it somewhere in Austin.
Almost seven years later, and Kellen is finally covering the mascot. Talk about playing the Long Game.
The video we all been waiting for
A video about my favorite Pokémon. I hope Aegislash returns to Scarlet and Violet in the Indigo Disk.
I see that the Halloween episode ended up being the scariest ghost type of all in Aegislash. Seeing him sent out in battle at a certain point of the game’s competitive scene was tantamount to a jump scare for sure.
THE VIDEO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
Gen 8 is basically Aegislash trying his absolute best getting away from the ban, while enjoying himself cosplaying Gen 3 Mence
They should undo the stat nerfs on Aegislash ngl
An Aegislash behind a Substitute is an avengers level threat.
I remember when we first found out that it got nerfed in SW SH ppl where saying that it was garbage now lol
Now we just need a video dedicated to the move False Swipe's history in competitive
Remember how hated Aegislash was during gen 6? Now people wanted this pokemon as Leon's ace and returned in gen 9 after seeing how GREAT Aegislash was since its debut.
Difficulty rom hacks made me fall in love with aegislash even more than i alrdy did
Especially radical red
Aegislash has one of the coolest designs. One of my absolute favorite Pokemon of all time. Ghost/steel is such cool typing.
Am I a part of history for suggesting this mon for months and false swipe finally did it?! I also felt this way when I was also suggesting Heatran for months and then he finally did in a month or so ago. I hope I'm getting a shout out for these things by the video uploader. 😉
Aegislash is absolutely a unique powerhouse, the way it changes form during the fight is well imposted and gives alternance to pure power to bulk, making it a tank with cannon.
I wonder if the massive nerf in VIII was so necessary, but at least it was unbanned.