My depreciation category is around the Cayenne. Most cars that have survived long enough don't experience the kind of catastrophic failures as a modified tuner
anyone can have a porshe ,the problem is having money to put gasoline on it, it makes me remenber some 20 years ago a guy was stoped in then BP station with a alfa-romeu gtv v6 3.0 and i notice he put only 1€ of gasoline ,inside the station i found a friend that i haven´t seen for maybe 7 to 8 years and told him with very low volume ,but he shouts ,you dumb asshole with a car like that ,only 1€ of gasoline ,it´s only to get home ,no!!! i felt ashamed because i was the only one outside when he was putting gasoline in his gtv but everybody inside the store looked at him ,maybe because it was the best car stoped on the station
You won't get as many good deals at garage sales when you pull up in a Porsche. When you drive out to the mountains and go for a hike you may look down from the peak and see your Porsche sitting there waiting and be unable to enjoy the view. You may even skip the hike entirely,drive right past your exit and just keep going. There's no boring errands in a Porsche. Every drive is a secret mission.
The garage sale is where you also have a $2,000 beater that looks like it won’t make it, just for that. Otherwise they won’t haggle. As for the hike and view, you know you can see the world out the windshield with a smile on your face. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Expensive, yes. Get maintenance at the dealership and it is also insanely expensive. 20k mile inspection, oil change, in cabin air filter last week was $800. Now they do pick up and deliver and leave me a brand-new Porsche loaner for the two days but it is crazy expensive. On the other hand, when my transmission went at 61K (1K past warranty) the service manager convinced the factory to replace it because I had done all the maintenance at the dealership. All that expensive maintenance saved me from a 19,000 repair bill.
@@IWillSmurfYou Oil change about once a year. Comprehensive inspection at 20 and 40 k miles. Tires and brakes times one. About 1800 for the yearly services, 800 for the comps, 3k for the tires and brakes (they replace the pads and rotors, though). So, about $5600 for service over six years. Now you have to remember that they come and get my vehicle, leave me a brand-new Porsche, then bring mine back. The dealership is about 90 minutes away from me so it saves me a huge amount of time, an entire Saturday, over taking it in myself. In addition, that model had a LOT of recalls and every time there was one, they'd contact me, set up the appt, and come get my car, leaving me a loaner, all at zero charge. I add it all up and it feels like a pretty fair exchange. Add in the free transmission and I believe I came out ahead. The entry price for the vehicle is steep, for sure, but paying for that name means paying for all the engineering and experience behind it.
I graduated from business school in 2001. Given I met my goals in terms of ROI I wanted to buy a 911. What was new and on the market? The 996. I adore my Porsche, the fact that the headlights match the LeMans winner is a bonus. What you say is true. A guy where I work now attempted to belittle my car as it is a 996 so not a "real" Porsche. He could not have made his envy more obvious.
Very good point about being envious and because of that trying to put someone down. I remember visiting a Porsche dealership in college when the 996 was the current model and I really wanted one. I have to admit that was a factor in choosing it over a 997 or 987 Cayman S that were in my same price range at the time. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Your comment about financial assumptions some people make about Porsche owners is so true. I drive a second-hand, 13 year old 987.2 and get teased quite a bit. I don't think the average person can differentiate between my $25k car and a brand new $175k 911 Carrera GTS.
That is a very true statement. As long as you have a modern enough Porsche in decent condition, most think it costs about the same as a new model. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
First of all what kind of adult has the time or energy to tease another adult over their CAR? Secondly, do you mean teased by more expensive Porsche owners that you have and older one? They're obviously idiots because that's one of the best modern platforms Porsche has built. Or teased for what, appearing to be able to afford a Porsche? On what planet does this happen? That's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. What are you supposed to aspire to, poverty and driving a '97 Buick LeSabre? This world is crazy lol...
I have a 2017 Cayman S and feel the sting of the snot-nosed 911 owners who look down their nose with disdain at anything other than a 911. Even a friend of mine passed a comment saying when you grow up you'll buy a 911, such a dopey statement and I won't repeat what I said back to him. This is a superior piece of workmanship that drives wonderfully and is a true sports car, the new 911's have grown too big and even thou wonderful cars are now sports/tourers in my opinion. When that Porsche badge is placed on the hood of one of the company products, it's a true Porsche regardless of what anyone says.
Very well said. The Cayman S is a wonderful car. While the 911 is also very good they are very different, but in many ways the Cayman is better from a sports car perspective. Sometimes it is more about a 911 being more expensive, but not everyone likes the way a 911 drives, so we can all enjoy what we prefer and Porsche makes some wonderful machines. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
the motor is better placed so yes, they keep the cayman down in engine and hp but they know it will outperform the 911 on track if they didnt downgrade
Had Cayman 987.2 S MT and daily drove it. Fantastic car and engineering. Only real issues were the headliner (had a local upholstery shop replace it) and the usual broken shift cable at about 60k IIRC. Ended up being cheaper to have the dealer replace and upgrade the cable than an independent. Insurance was LESS than the Civic it replaced! My commute became much longer, so I was only driving it on weekends and eventually sold it. Great car though. Do everything at the dealer and you will pay $$$. If you do your own basic maintenance, not bad at all. Just DRIVE them!
@@mikesecret8221 thanks for sharing your experience and advice. I love Caymans and when I’ve driven them they are such fun sports cars, especially on the right roads. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
In 25 years I have owned 13 Porsches, from classic SWB air-cooled to 996 C4, and the 4 cylinder water pumper transaxles... They are all Porsches and owners need to know their cars are like women and need lots of love! lol
Very well said! My uncle used to say that about British cars being like women, but he would add if you find a good one you need to keep it. Good thing is more good Porsches are out there. Also, I’ve been following your channel and congrats on the growth. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
My biggest cost so far on my 2007 987 Boxster S was the wheel alignment that I had to do at a Porsche dealership in Glasgow, because the local garage messed up so badly I couldn’t trust them anymore! Other than that, I do all the maintenance myself and for the last 3 years, I’ve only spend around £900 on it. The other big investment I had for the car was a spare set of wheels for the winter tyres. All for under £1000. The car has 132k miles and as the saying goes, “The best smiles per mile you can get!”. I’ll never be without one ever again!
it´s maybe one of the gratest porshes ever in driving pleasure but i never paid that much for any revision and the car is perfect today, the only car without top that i own ,either than a boat called Pontiac GrandPrix from 67, i live in a region with sun all year but to drive without top it´s a feeling of having the head burning because of the sun and in winter the sun is very low ,even worse
@@Castan0157 the one i bought cheap already around 20 years ago is still running, made the maintenance but the water pump is okay and if needed to change it´s cheap and one can install it at home in the parking way to the garage and a pleasure to drive ,i used to not like them that much but after driving one had to have it
Great vid. I’ve owned 3. 944, 07 Caykan S and 996 Turbo S. All manual, what I’ve learned is buy the best one you can. The 944 I bought was low price and bad shape. It cost lots. My other too and cheery and cost very little so far. They are low miles and in great shape. I drive them hard. Super fun cars. Oddly the cayman because it’s red is the real head turner. I drive them solely for the driving experience not statutes. I have other cars as well they are all different. V8 M3, Fiat 500 Abarth and a Saabaru. All different and I love them all. Would love a gt350R. Want a muscle car next. Cheers boys.
Great advice and sounds like some fun rides. Back when I was running a fairly popular car blog that I started, Ford invited me to Laguna Seca to drive the Shelby Mustang GT350R when it first was released. Unfortunately, my schedule didn’t allow for me to go, but my wife had a wonderful time on the track with it. Her first car was a Mustang, but not a V8, so to drive the latest most powerful Mustang was a dream come true for her. The great thing about cars are they are all a bit different. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Being able to drive the most exciting cars on the road and not being noticed is priceless! I love that about Porsche. Also I find them to be extremely reliable, and Porsche has never sleazed out of a warranty work.
I personally prefer the low profile, but I know some people want cars for the attention. I personally think it is all about the driving experience, but some think differently. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts and experience.
I blew two rear main seals in my 911. I was young and beat it to death… lol 😂 they can be broken if you drive them as they are intended to be driven. But I will say it withstood the punishment. The turbos are actually more reliable. They don’t really do recalls so. Remember vw fights them tooth and nail and was actually forced to do their last major one by the us government. Emissions scandal sound familiar… Porsche operates similarly. If it does not beak they don’t voluntarily just fix it preventatively They just fix all the defects by the time the turbo model launches. Like the ims bearing. It was faulty in the first gen 996. So they did a mid life update. And fixed the issue with a gen 2 and the turbo model.
I have had five air-cooled 911s. A 928 a 944. I now have a 986 S and A 996.2 coupe. I love them all. I like the headlights on the 996 and anyone that calls a Boxster a hairdresser's car has never driven one.
Well i have driven a Boxter and to say its a hairdresser car is a lack of respect for the hairdressers. Its a regular car, low on power, not exciting to drive at all.
@@gilgil5351 which one did you drive? I was just up in the mountains with a turbo a GT3 and 2 late model 911s. And I hung in there pretty fucking good.
Hmm! A lot to take on board here! I’ve had 3 Porsche’s and all of them have been expensive to maintain, even using independents instead of main dealerships! My experience of Porsche after sales service quite appalling especially over what you would call warranted items. When my PDK imploded due to an ‘electrical’ fault they refused any help with a replacement despite the vehicle having completed less than 14,000 miles! Yes it was 5 years old but non the less, really? Cost of repair to me via a specialist £10,500! A previous Boxster S cost me £3,500 for a rear suspension rebuild…..the vehicle had completed 65,000 miles but even so!!! I’m also disappointed at the level of some of the parts now used on these high end cars. I thought I was investing in high quality German engineering! All that said the driving experience is second to nothing I’ve driven before and always gives me a smile.
Ouch sounds like your experience has been expensive with repairs. At least they are fun to drive no matter what you end up paying. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
This is why I've never owned a Porsche outside of warranty. I've had very few problems with my three Porsches that were under warranty. But I don't trust the build quality enough to keep them for a hundred thousand miles or more.
For a long time German cars are intentionally unreliable so they can scam customers. There is only one way these days - a new car with extended 200K km/5 years warranty and you get rid of it with some month of residual warranty!
I just bought one, a 718 GTS. I’ve already made so many considerations like ‘not’ telling certain people about it for fear of being thought of badly (silly really as there are SO many more expensive cars that slip under the radar). I won’t tell my boss about it because I want a pay rise. I wouldn’t drive it to certain client meetings. All these things are a shame but when you drive it everything else doesn’t matter! I don’t really like the image thing but I LOVE cars and this is one of the best there is, certainly the best car I’ve ever had.
It’s funny how some people think the cheapest Porsche costs the same as a new GT3 RS, but as you said none of that matters once once you drive it. Enjoy your 718 GTS as often as you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
2 years ago, I was seriously considering a 991.1 Turbo, but decided to "save money" and sprung for a Jaguar F-Type SVR for two reasons: proximity to Porsche & Jag dealership (each is hundreds of miles away), and because I live in an area with 5+ months of snow/ice. (Yes, I bought snow tires and daily drive it). Now, I'm limited by space in my garage, but I vow to own at least 1 Porsche in my life. Thanks for the information. RUclips algo wins again.
The Jaguar F-Type SVR is quite a car and should be enjoyed as often as possible. When you get a Porsche enjoy it just as much as the Jaguar. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Just saw a post on Reddit. Dude bought a 996 with 57k miles 6 months ago and the engine just imploded. IMS had not been addressed. Don't know for sure if that was actually it but bad things really can happen. I worry about the low mileage examples for sure. My 2001 was 37k miles when I bought it last year and immediately drove it to my indy and had the whole alphabet soup replaced. IMS, AOS, RMS, clutch. $7k right off the bat but worth my peace of mind in the long run. I've saved thousands of dollars in labor by doing everything else myself. Oil changes, engine mounts, fuel filter, water pump, thermostat, coolant reservoir, coolant hoses, brake lines, etc. Bay Area indy specialists average $200/hour for labor. It's actually fun to work on and my 6 year old gets to "work on the airbox" with his plastic tool set.
I personally feel more nervous with low mileage examples and would do a ton of preventative maintenance on one of those, especially when you consider that you likely paid more for a low mileage example and the risk of parts going from the sitting goes up. Sounds like you have the right idea to prevent the common bad issues. I also agree working on your car yourself can be a lot of fun and getting your children involved makes it fun for them. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Let’s see. Last bought a ‘13 Boxster S for 42,900 with 63,000 miles. First off forget about tires. It depends on what type you get, how hard and how much you drive. The car I bought needed “maintenance “ I changed half the PDK fluid $45. Eight liters of Liqui-Moly oil and filter $140. Three liters fluid for the differential $45. K&N filters $180. Those are lifetime filters. No clutch or clutch cables or CV axles or timing belt to change- ever. Won’t change the dif fluid for another three years. I replace half the PDK fluid every year. Oil and filter and that’s it. Front brakes were new when I bought it and doing great after 11,000 miles and rears will lay another year or two and be about $350-400 when time. I do all this myself. I’ll need a drive belt which my Indy will do for less than $250 plus the belt. This is all this car needs for a very long time. That’s just not that much, sorry whiners. It’s been absolutely bullet proof through almost two years and other than replacing the original battery there nothing else. I installed a 13 lb lithium battery to reduce weight by 35 lbs and installed a cat back exhaust myself to save another ten lbs. the car gets 22-24 mixed driving and over 30 mpg on the highway. I daily it when I’m not driving my company vehicle. If this is too much for you than my sympathies. I’m a lowly blue collar technician and only make about six figures. I also got a three year warranty and will have the whole car checked out before it expires at a Porsche specialist. Ive gotten one single negative comment and dozens of wows. It turns head wherever it goes in the rural area I live and get zero negative comments at PCA events. This car is basically half 911 and built on the same assembly line and to the same quality standards. As for handling you can’t beat physics. A mid-engined car will always have inherent advantages over a rear engined car and that’s just the laws of physics. If you’re willing to do the maintenance yourself and buy a $1,400 dollar Quick-Jack you will probably have the same experience I do
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you do the maintenance yourself (and keep up on everything) then they can be quite cost effective to own, especially for the wonderful machine you get to drive. Your Boxster sounds like a great car, enjoy it as often as possible, especially if you can find a curvy back road. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
You are spot on. I'm on my third Porsche now, and have felt most of those, yet to get a large repair bill 🤞🤞. My first was a 986 Boxster, and I've never owned a better car, she was sublime. I then had a 955 Cayenne, which was a very sporty SUV. I'm now on a 996 Carrera, she's awesome. Strangely though I yearn for the Boxster, I was warned about that, many feel it's better than a 911, and in many ways they are right. But I wouldn't get rid of my 996!
I have a 996 and have found the cheapest way to get the thrills of a smaller lighter mid engined car has been to park a 1991 MR2 next my Porsche. Best decision
@@zeusmultirotor8479 How do you like the driveability of the rear engine compared to the mid one ? I own a Lotus Elise S2, and am looking in the future to add another car to my garage, never tried any Porsche so I'm curious about it, while the Cayman is obviously more balanced, the 911 seems to offer a completely other experience...So I tend to think that a second mid engine wouldn't make much sense.
@@steevenbrunner3261 I have driven a Cayman S and my gut feeling is that if you want to add a car to your garage that is very different from the Elise I would go for a 911. The rear engine has a different feel from the mid engine. Especially coming out of a high speed corner. To put it another way, my MR2 (and the cayman) dance through corners while the 911 Turbo inhales them
I’ve had a 2000 Boxster base since 08 a blast to drive. I just got a 2014 911 S solid reliable comfortable awesome dream car my opinion it’s better to get one that may cost you a little bit more with all the options so you don’t have to do anything like sport exhaust better to pay for it already installed with a button after market very pricey. You’re totally right there’s so many nice people in the Porsche clubs and groups and meet ups and Porsches n pancakes , cars n coffee and driving through the twisty turns is heaven on earth it’s not about top speed. wearing our tires as a privilege I’m looking forward to wearing out my set of pilot sports tires it just means I’m driving the hell out of that machine and that’s what I bought it for.
Sounds like you had a great Boxster and now are enjoying a very nice 911 S. The 991 is quite a machine and certainly has an upscale feel inside. Eat a bit of rubber whenever you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I have a 987.1 that I brought when I was 25. For me, it was a massive accomplishment, I knew the exact day that I saw one on the road and decided that I wanted one. It took me almost 10 years to get there, but I’ve got there in the end. I love driving the car and although I’ve had to replace some expensive parts in it, I’ve tried my best to take care of the car and it is something that I cherish. Yep, I would like to get a 911, but on the other hand I would never wanna let go of this car. All already matters is how it makes you feel
I purchased my 1987 Porsche 944 NA 3 years ago and chose it because I believe it is not only beautiful with classic styling but handles fantastically due to the superior weight balance. I have put 300 hours of restoration and have had some PCA 911 purists telle my car was in amazing shape and they were genuinely impressed 👌
To see a 944 in good condition is a rare thing. When they got really cheap so many of them got trashed, so seeing one in great condition is something very special. Thanks for keeping one of these great machines going. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
My first Porsche is my current car. A 2021 Carrera S with a 7- speed manual. It is a CPO with a total of five years factory warranty and unlimited miles. Pricey? Yes, but so worth it and with the added peace of mind with the five year CPO warranty.
Sounds like a nice ride. I’ve been looking at a CPO myself with a Porsche Macan as a family car, so when I take the entire family to events we can still be in a Porsche. The warranty is certainly worth it should anything major and expensive go wrong. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Moral of the story, buy something you like and enjoy it. Ignore the naysayers. They only say what they say because secretly, they're jealous of you for having something they don't.
Honestly, after dreaming about having a Porsche for 50 years, if it somehow happened, the last thing I would care about is what anyone says or thinks of the one I got my hands on. I have driven a 911, a boxter, and a panamera. I loved all of them. I couldn’t believe how the steering/throttle/brakes on the new panamera felt for example, I loved getting to drive them. Frankly if you buy the most specd out 911 just to show off your money, and you hate all the other models, it’s you who are not a real Porsche lover you should have just bought a watch. I think anyone I see with one, no matter which one has done great for themselves and I congratulate them on getting to do it. If they know how to actually drive it, instead of tooling around at 30 mph all the time afraid to get it dirty, that’s great too.
I’m on my second and it’s a base model 997. I don’t really care what other drivers think, to me it is a special car and worth far more than the price I paid for it, if only in terms of how I screw my neck around each time I leave it somewhere. Like me it’s big standard and I love it, because of , and not despite, the history.
Just bought my new Cayman S. Loving it. With all the options added, the price is pretty close to a 911. Who knows, maybe one day I will buy a 911. But for now, I am loving this Cayman
Sorry for the delayed response (I got behind on comments and am just catching up). The Cayman S is a great car. Enjoy it as often as you can. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I drive a minty 944 and I have to say, literally every time i drive that car I get compliments on it. Its like buying the cheapest ticket to the best show in the world.
The 944 is a great dependable car as long as it is maintained well. Fun to drive and plenty of old school feel. Enjoy driving it as often as you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I’ve personally been lucky with the water-cooled cars, but some have not been so lucky. Having said that, I wouldn’t mind an air-cooled Porsche in the garage. I just need a bigger garage or a shop like Tavarish, but perhaps someday. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I’ve a 996.2 C2, the most hated 911, I’ve had a 2.7 986 Boxster and a 2.7 Cayman, I can honestly say I’ve loved each and every one, with the exception of replacing the ims bearing on the 911 (996) I generally do all my maintenance purely to be involved and learn about the car, I’ve never looked down on any Porsche, my first Porsche was a very scabby 924 which I thought was as exotic as can be, I love the 911 as the grandkids can jump in the back with the top down…..Fun, Fun, Fun, also because it has no driver aids to ruin the rear end fun, let’s just think how lucky we are to be driving these beauties before it’s all gone.
Very good points, especially as cars continue to move away from what makes these cars great and become more numb. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Had a 993: Expensive oil changes. Air channels would lead to a top end job on the 5-10k dollar line at 50k miles...and was told this happens and is maintenance. Tires were 300 to 500 each in the back. It was hard to find parts then and now it might be horrible. And it was actually not that fast. Then had a 996TT: Was fast as heck in context. Bought a bulletproof metzger or so I thought. Had a 2nd gear tranny fork issue: 8k dollars and 8 weeks down at a speed shop (double that at a dealer). Had a vacuum leak - needed 22 feet of tubing debugged at hourly rates.....engine dropped of course....8k. Had to get coolant lines pinned....5k. Normal plugs and oil...expensive. Tires - a lot if I went N type....and when I did not the car was not happy. Too fast for the normal street at stage 2....so it got boring because I could not use it on the street at over 3/10ths and on track it was terrifyingly fast - had suspension/cage/buckets....it was too much for the street and too little for the track - learned to leave street cars alone.... If the engine went - 30k or even 50k was quoted....hard to find, etc. Just a europipe exhaust was 5k dollars. Dollars. Lots of little stuff too ....Porsches are just cars. Now I have read a few things about the cars of today: 1. Bore scoring is very common if not universal. 2. The GT type cars I love are priced out of reach for anyone normal. 3. Lots of people drive Porsches today for the label appeal....more than before as a percentage in my opinion, at least around here. The 911 owners still think they are the only real porsches except for a gt4 perhaps.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is always good for people to go in with their eyes wide open to make a wise decision to keep it on the road. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
"Expensive oil changes"-- it's not hard to change your own oil. These cars have 2 oil filters, right? So a PITA I get it. Changing oil and adjusting the valves (not applicable on the hydraulic 993 lifters, I think?) are the basic skills that used to be a requirement for owners of air cooled cars. "Air channels would lead to a top end job on the 5-10k dollar line at 50k miles" -- can you clarify? I've never heard of this, and while I'm not a 993 guy (I have an '81 SC), I'm interested in learning more.
Porsches are for people that want a reliable sports car. As an Italian friend told me that was born in Italy, lives in Italy and owned a car parts business in Italy, "Ferraris are beautiful to look at, but if you want a real sports car, buy a Porsche".
I’ve had 3 Porsches so far (‘88 3.2, ‘88 944t, ‘08 Gt3rs). One l used as a daily commuter for 13 yrs (50 miles/day), one I’ve tracked for 30yrs (full cage etc) and one I use for weekend drives with the wife. My commuter cost me the least to maintain. The weekend ride only just dipped big into my car budget (RMS) after 10+ year of ownership. My track car, … well, maintenance expenditures are high. So what have I learned. With Porsches, they love best when you drive them always and a lot, but …. if you track ‘em expect to pay healthy amounts for upkeep. Though however, no where near BMW’s or Ferrari’s cost per track mile. So guess which one I used for which task. There is a hint above. If ya know, you know.
My guess would be the 3.2 was the track car, 944 turbo the daily commuter and the GT3 RS the weekend car (based on the RMS comment). As for the track use. I always remember that the best way to make a small fortune in motorsport is to start with a large fortune. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I’ve had 7 911s. Benchmark for me has been 5,000-7,000 on the rear tires depending on what type of tires you are buying and the type of driving you’re doing. 10,000 on the fronts
Just picked up a 1989 944 Turbo. This car is underrated and a masterpiece on the track and cruising on the weekend. Easy to work on and I'm a beginner mechanic.
Awesome car. My 944 N/A was very reliable and I had a friend that owned a Turbo and that was very fast and tuneable. Enjoy your 951 as often as you can. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
And the fact that you like it is all that matters. I’m a fan of the 928 and was close to getting one when I sold my 944, but a good deal on a 987 Boxster came up and was too good to pass up at the time. Still wouldn’t mind one of the best GT cars of all time if I get enough garage space. Enjoy your 928 as often as you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Strictly speaking, purists have always liked the 996 and the original Boxster. They both tick most if not all the important purist boxes. Being air cooled isn't really a purist thing. Being analogue is. Naturally aspirated engine, manual box, hydraulic or unassisted steering. Those are the key purist must-haves. The 986 Boxster has always been quite a useful test of whether someone is a purist or an ill-informed snob. Purists love 986 Boxster. The snobs don't. Point of all this is that I think you're a little unfair to purists. The point of being a purist is that it's all about the driving experience, it's not about being air-cooled for its own sake or similar. A purist will prefer a manual 986 Boxster to a 930 Turbo or indeed a 993 Turbo. Or really a 959, too. None of those cars are purist cars, despite two being air-cooled and one being something of an icon.
My favorite part is the Porsche Paranoia Syndrone !!!!! Should I park here ???? Is that idiot in the Caravan going to stop ???? Speed bumps, car washes, vandals, morons sitting on it (Realy) endless JOY 🤩.
I'm on my 4th Porsche. I bought my first 911 when I was 23 years old. A 1985 Carrera coupe Euro engine. 2nd was a 1991 Carrera 2 coupe, 3rd was a 2006 Cayman S, and my present Porsche, I just purchased a 2018 718 Boxster GTS. There all real Porsches !!!! My flat 4 turbo has a stealth Porsche soul, and it's by far the best engine I've experienced from Porsche. No other manufacturers make variable turbos or a turbo engine that redlines at 7400, other than Ferrari. Very few can make a transmission that even comes close to a pdk. I stayed at a hotel in an area saturated with WRX Suburus. I must have seen 20 different WRXs stop at the light and then motor on after it turned green. WRX engine sounds totally different than my 718. 718 engine has a sweet sound up top, especially. It's sounds like stealth jet, and is rapture fast! I love my 718 GTS, it's the best Porsche I've ever owned!
My first Porsche was a 1977 911S and I had it for decades, loved it! My current Porsche is a Carrera 4 that I dearly enjoy driving. With that said Porsche ownership isn't for penny pinches or the cheap. Maintenance must be maintained or else you could be in store for costly repairs. But it is the ultimate driving experience in my opinion that's still affordable if you so desire!😁
Very good point. If you buy a well maintained example to start and invest in keeping it in good condition keeping up on maintenance, then you can enjoy them usually trouble free and without that single large bill. The drive is certainly worth it. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
@@BRLaue sorry if I worded something incorrectly, but I haven’t owned a 1977 911 S myself. I did get close to buying a 911 SC at one point and someone else got it just before I go there. My first Porsche was a 1977, but it was a 924. Having said that, I’ve seen some people try to fashion something to help with the heat exchanger as I believe part of the issue is the flap that is supposed to open getting stuck. If I find the article of one of the fixes that I read a while ago, I’ll try to remember to send it your way (not sure if I can find it, but if I do I’ll let you know).
I keep my Porsches. I've owned only 3 in the past 50 years. 1st was a 1970 914-6. 2nd was a 1980 911 SC. 3rd is now a 1999 996 cabriolet. I love them all !!
If you are going to talk non-stop you might want to check into better audio. I don't know if it is the mic or what, but hard to listen to. Otherwise, good content and I appreciate your videos.
Thanks for letting me know as that is very helpful information. I may have been a little hash on my editing removing breaths, but I also recently switched to a wireless microphone. I may try to use my old mic for the next video and see if the sound quality is better and if it is I’ll invest in a nicer mic. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@richarddamico9894 thanks for the feedback and I’ll try to take a breath next time and try to talk not quite so fast. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I’ve recently started driving a 2001 Boxster, with 80k on the odometer. The car has been an absolute blast to drive. I’m 21 and its my first experience with a manual transmission and a Porsche in general. The previous owner replaced the IMS, RMS, clutch, and installed bucket seats and Bilstein adjustables. The only thing that wasn’t replaced was the AOS, which ironically failed a month into ownership. So that cost $120 and 6 hours of my time, it would probably have been $800 or more from a shop. But besides that, everything has been perfect! It’s absolutely magnificent to hear that flat 6 go, and the car has suddenly made me look rich in front of my friends. They were all pretty shocked when I told them it cost $15,000 and was cheaper than all of their cars, which they had gotten within the last few years.
Sounds like a fun ride. I know I enjoy my 986 Boxster for over six years with minimal work needed during that time. They are great cars. Enjoy it as often as you can. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Tires are the least of your worries. My first Porsche was a 2008 Cayman S. Totaled it. Next, 2011 987.2. Even with the many improvements, it wasn't the same; sold it. It took awhile to admit it, but there is only ONE Cayman. The first one. In March of 2022 I bought a 2006 Cayman S and a 2005 Carrera S. I wanted to sort it out for myself once and for all. The 997 is brilliant and fast. It is an absolute joyous experience. Bottom line, I sold it and kept the Cayman. Two different forms of perfection. blessings everyone and keep the shiny side up!
The early Caymans are very good cars. I nearly bought and early Cayman S before I bought my 996. When it is time to add another car to the garage it will likely be a Cayman as they are very good to drive. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
would you be scared to buy a 996 automatic that had a newer rebuilt engine from an IMS bearing failure? other than that it is super clean and seems like a great deal. In general is buying a rebuilt an engine too risky?
A rebuilt engine can be a positive, but the thing would be to find out who did the rebuild and is there documentation of the rebuild. If it was professionally done then engines often have a warranty, and if it has one I would make sure that it is transferable. If it is a backyard mechanic then it is riskier as some know what they are doing and others won’t torque things properly. It would be a good idea to get a pre-purchase inspection no matter what. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
"Sticks and stones....". Back in '07 when I bought my 964 I bought it for me and didn't concern myself about anyone else's thoughts on the matter. Life is so much easier when you realise that pretty much every negative comment from someone originates not from any realistic personal assessment of you, but more likely is a reflection of some insecurity on their part. My kids are impervious to anything nasty aimed at them and they're sailing through waters that others, who are over-sensitised to what others may say, are drowning in. So - "sticks and stones..."!🙂
@@OurRideLife Cheers mate and thanks for your kind words. It's sometimes hard being a dad - my kids didn't come with instructions! Thanks too for going to the trouble of making these videos. Now that I am no longer a Porsche owner, I have to live vicariously through good folk like yourself! Cheers and have a great Christmas, from Sydney, Dave
@@deldridg thanks and you have a great Christmas as well. Incidentally, I went Sydney when I was younger, but don’t remember too much from that trip. My family loves in New Zealand at the time and I’m hoping to go visit and show my kids New Zealand and Australia so they can see that part of the world.
Funny how many people that don’t own a Porsche themselves have an opinion on what is a “real” versus “fake” Porsche. A while back Porsche had me out to drive the Panamera lineup on the road and track and they are certainly good driving cars. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Another thing about tires, (my uncle has a 1981 930 turbo and iirc a 2018 911S) you can't simply rotate them..the rears will wear at least twice as fast as the fronts leaving you with a decision..couple grand for 4 or half that for just rears and older tires in front? Wear may be more even on the AWD models, but still can't rotate.
Very good point about the tire rotation. On my previous Porsche (a 986 Boxster) I bought new tires with a warranty that was supposed to include free tire rotation. I went to get one, but because to rotate them they have to take them off the rim it cost $40 for the rotation. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@cbatiau2528 good to know, seems AWD seems to limit the tiny little bits of slippage that quickly add up to tire wear on the rear. I imagine brisk cornering on the regular can also contribute to quicker tire wear, but that isnt exclusive to rear/mid engined Porsche models.
@@michaelbauschka3396 for models that don’t have matching on all fours, you have to rotate from side to side and that requires that the tire get removed, so most tire shops will charge for this even if you have a free tire rotation warranty.
As a purist I think there’s a difference between real purist arguments and just being a Fanboy. For example I don’t get why people hate the Boxster/Cayman, both are great cars as they are physically more agile than a 911 due to the engine placement. I would take a Cayman GT4 over many 911 even the Turbo ones. On the other hand I get why some dislike some orders models but just because of the auto gearbox that was used. The Tiptronic is so much slower than a manual or PDK and they take much of the fun in my eyes, But I don’t get why the 993 is so (over)hyped… Porsche changed to water cooled engines because they couldn’t keep up with their competition. That was part of the reason why so few 993 were sold as they weren’t considered as good. Still a great car but so overpriced for what it is. I even saw a 993 Turbo S with Werkleistungssteigerung for like 1 million dollar… But no one can tell me that the Cayenne is a real Porsche as the aren’t even produced in Germany rather Slovakia
In college I bought a “depreciated” 944 turbo. I tried to make it a daily driver, but it cost a fortune to keep running. Nobody told me I needed to let an oil cooled turbo idle for five minutes before turning it off. That was a 2500 dollar lesson, in a 2500 dollar car. Every month something else would break. Last straw was a clutch slave cylinder at 195. The comparable Volkswagen one was 15, but the bolt holes were opposite. I traded it on a Buick and drove that car for the next three years. I have a lot of friends with Porsches, but I will not be joining them.
I almost bought two different Porsches when I was in college. I had the money for the cars, but probably good I didn’t back then as if something went wrong I didn’t have the funds to fix it. But some end up paying a small fortune and others get lucky, but depends on the situation. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Porsche probably offers the best blend of motorsport and daily usage in their cars. Unless you have the need to constantly drive with 3 adults in the car, you can perfectly use your Porsche for a daily commuter. And when an opportunity arises, it can become a beast of a vehicle in a few seconds. In my opinion, if you are in the market for a sports car that you can actually drive a lot, Porsche should be on top of your list.
Very true. Porsche provides great performance, but in a usable package which can’t be said for many other sports car makers. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I drove a 997. In a month it burned out tires. Drank 2 liters of oil. Smoked brakes... i wash shocked at how bad it actually was. Great and fun car. My dream car since i was little. But i could drive it fast or slow. And it didnt change anything.
Well that isn’t good. I haven’t had those issues with my 996, but some have more issues than others unfortunately. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Don't own a Porsche, but aspire to someday. Don't hold any grudges about models, and its nice to see that Porsche has offered lower costing models to make them in reach for various salary grades.
Owned three. The air cooled wouldn’t get out of their own shadow in first gear. Better for Europe where winding roads mean no freeways and less stop and go driving. Stop and go means it will overheat and more repairs. A great European car
Very good point as the water-cooled versus air-cooled cars do depend on the environment as to which one is best for a given drive. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Your videos always make me smile, Dave, and played no small part in my getting a 996 in 2021. It has all the features that the porschists (as I call them - funny how few of them drive a Porsche) love to hate. It's a Carrera 4, cabriolet, tiptronic, gen 1 and I love it. I would have got a Boxster but, er, well, I needed the extra seats for when the grandchildren come over. My sister-in-law told me she thought all 911 drivers were wankels but I explained that the Wankel was a very rare rotary engine that had never, as far as I know, been used by Porsche and that all 911s had a flat six, horizontally opposed, "boxer" engine. She had glazed over by then but she got the point.
You comment made be smile. Sounds like you have a good 996, enjoy it as often as you can and the backseats were one of my main reasons from moving from a Boxster to a 911. Also thanks for sharing the wankels comment, I’m sure I’ll use it in the future. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts.
996, all wheel drive, automatic transmission, and its not even a coupe? that’ll get all the haters hating! seriously though, sounds like a fantastic car. would love to have an AWD 996 cabrio one day.
And prior to the snobbery of some 911 owners, there was the era when 356 owners felt the new 911 was not a ‘true Porsche’ (it didn’t have a 4 cylinder engine! Blasphemy!).
That is true. When I lived on the California central coast a neighbor had four 356’s and he worked on a ton of them. He was OK with the 911, but did like to remind others that the 356 was first. He also much preferred the 4 cylinder engines for working on. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Had a '69 911T, a 2001 Boxster S and currently the wife drives a 2011 Cayenne Hybrid. No serious issues except an electrical harness that arc'ed causing the car to go into limpmode, but I am mechanically sympathetic and only drill them when fully up to working temperature and do proper maintainance myself. Wonderfull cars, if a little more expensive to maintain than the average Asian econoboxes...
That is similar with my experience. What I have owned has been very dependable and not too bad to maintain. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Yea of all the communities I’ve been in, Porsche enthusiasts have the largest group of accepted “gatekeepers” no contest. They argue that specific models are better because they are more “special” but that’s another way of saying that they don’t drive them. And if you need your car to feel special, that says more about your personality than you know.
Very true. The cars are all good, just some of the owners (and certainly not most of them) ruin it for some others for no reason. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
i remenber people trashing the boxter when it came out and i found a great car to drive ,with manual gears off course , driving this cars with automatic doesn´t even make any sense, this unloved porshe was the last car i really had pleasure to drive, if the Alfa-Romeu 4C had manual gears with clutch it would be my favorite car to drive , all started to me with the 72 Lotus Europa and the dino ,both great cars to drive also i think i should mention the Renault Alpine A110 from the same era ,mine is a 73 ,allthough i love the design of the Renault Alpine A442 only changed the door mirrors to the ones from Alpine installed in the Renault 5 alpine turbo
You know your cars...I think people hated the first Boxster because it basically "shared / re-used" 911 parts at a fraction of its price plus MR config provided better drive / balance. The only downside is fixing / maintaining those older 986s as those parts / costs are are the same as 911.
@@Hoster987not hated ,but because it was cheap people don´t felt like having a cheap porshe and in reality was a very pleasant car to drive this with manual gear shifter, 1.8 engine might sound not that powerfull but to what the car was designed for, it´s more than enough , to drive fast on secondary roads it´s perfect
My first year of ownership of my 2002 Boxster cost me almost £10,000. The car cost me less than £8000. But I was 'committed'. Over the next six years it cost me another £8500. That's apart from road tax and insurance and fuel. And now it's gone and I can breathe a sigh of relief. Porsche? Nope, I'm cured.
All depends on the partial Porsche. When I had my 1999 Porsche Boxster maintenance cost me very little in the six years I owned (I did a video about it a few years ago), but I know some don’t have such a nice situation and making sure folks know the good and bad helps others decide if Porsche ownership is right for them. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I am a big Porsche fan and owned three of them: a 924S, a 911 Carrera and a 911 Carrera 4S. But while I loved the exterior, I wasn't happy with the interior. I found them all to be uncomfortable and poorly designed ergonomically. The door sill was too high to rest my arm on, my right leg hit the center console, my left leg hit the door panel, the shifter was too far forward, no usable cup holders, seats were not comfortable enough and even my passengers didn't like being in it. I was also embarrassed to show anybody the interior with all the plasticky bits. As for how it drove, I would say that it was good but not great. Nothing to write home about. Overall, I really liked how they look on the outside, but at that price point I expect a much better interior. Today, I drive a JCW Mini Cooper and it addresses all of these issues and the driving experience is fabulous. I won't be going back to Porsche anytime soon.
I’ve owned a 924, 944, Boxster and my current 911. I agree that all the models that I‘ve owned have had a lot of plastic bits on the interior. I’ve thought about customizing the interior to make it look more upscale and have a video series on if it was worth it to put in all the upgrades (thinking of changing the seats, adding alcantara accents and changing the plastic for carbon fiber, but it could get quite expensive to do so). I haven’t had the ergonomic issues, but I drive with both hands on the steering wheel (except when shifting my past models) and I’m only 5’10” tall. I’ve heard that if you are taller that upgrades like a GT3 console delete are needed to have enough leg room and they can be uncomfortable to drive when taller. The 996 certainly has the most exposed plastic in the interior, but the 997 has a fair bit as well. It is an upgraded, but you have to go to the 991 to start having much nicer interiors in the water-cooled cars. I have to agree that they look great on the outside and are good driving cars out of the box although many invest in suspension upgrades to improve the driving experience (but like the interior that is throwing more money at the problem). Glad you enjoy driving your Mini Cooper. The awesome thing about cars is there is something for everyone to enjoy and the fact that you enjoy it is all that matters. I had a friend with a Mini Cooper S and he loved it. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Porsche are reliable and an absolute joy to drive. They are one of the few special cars where you can feel absolutely safe driving it anywhere without having to worry about unnecessary attention or people wanting to vandalize them. They're rare enough to be seen as special by those who like them, but also common enough to avoid being too much of an attention magnet.
I've got a 2017 Panamera S white/white on white rims & aftermarket exhaust, ppl on the highway will move over for me to pass by, feels like I'm a famous person, the car gets a lot of attention here in GA, to the point where ppl will follow me into parking lots or the entrance of my neighborhood, which gets kinda awkward when after I've made 2 wrong turns on purpose.
Time to hire security guards. Although, having the people get to the side would be nice, that doesn’t happen much in Florida (nor did it in California). The last time I drove a Panamera was in the Atlanta area as PCNA hade me out to drive the lineup on the road and track. Amazing vehicle, especially on the track. Enjoy it as often as you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
@@OurRideLife I live out in the Covington area right off I-20 and work in Norcross, so some drives home, end quicker than others but I also got 21 RAM Big Horn that's my real daily.
I've owned a 911 and also serviced and driven my dads (both 996) and they're great cars but for modifying and constantly having to fix things, id rather own and tune a vw. I just picked up a cayenne turbo that needs a motor so well see how that works. I need a tow vehicle.
Hope the Cayenne ends up being good for you. I did own a 1959 VW Type 1 for a while and I do have to say it was easy to work on and I know the newer VWs, especially the GTI can be tuned as I recently met someone with a 400 horsepower GTI. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I had a 993, boxster and currently have a 996. Did a 1300mile trip with a mate in summer. Has a 964, his overheated, mine did not miss a beat. Air cooled fine, but old tech. Depends what you like. As for my headlights ….love them, very similar to the carerra GT!
They are all good in their way, but there are reasons why Porsche did move to water cooled engines. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
The Boxster 986 is now a classic. If this car wasn’t made there would be no more Porsche. It was responsible for saving the company. So show the Boxster some respect . These should be going up in prices as so many have ended up in the scrap yard because of accidents .When the hood is down it a beautiful little car , it has lovely curves. Drive one first before you knock them . They are a great drive. Most of the parts fit the 911.
The Boxster is a wonderful car and my 986 was very dependable over the six years that I had it. It may not have been the quickest car in a straight line (of course 20 year old cars are rare still considered quick), but I could take so much speed through a corner. Just perfect for a nice windy road. I probably would still have mine if it wasn’t for the usefulness of the back seats taking my children in it from time to time and lack of garage space to keep both. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Yeah the air cooled purists / snobs are the most annoying. Don't get my wrong I absolutely adore the 993 and 964 but those cars are now so expensive that normal car enthusiasts can no longer afford them. You get an amazing value for your money with 996 and 997. And they're MUCH faster than any air cooled. 992 is the only 911 that I don't really like. The rear is very weird and has gone too far from the original 911. Great video, cheers.
Sorry for the late reply (catching up on comments). I completely agree with you and glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I have owned 5 Porsches over the years. Boxsters, a 944, 911's. They are ALL Porsches. I'm in the PCA. I've never been around anyone in the club who didn't appreciate any of the various models. So if you've heard people snub their noses at a particular model, they're simply idiots. I'm sure there are some wealthy people who own a Porsche simply as a status symbol who aren't really sports car enthusiasts, but that is the exception.
I probably hear a bit more that some from being on the internet and every now and then someone says something in person. In person is pretty rare though and 99% of Porsche enthusiasts are incredible. The fact is they are all great cars and they all should be enjoyed as such. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Proud owner of a 2000 996.1 Tiptronic with 105k on it.Bought 13 years ago and has the original IMS to my knowledge. Great cars and about the same maintenance costs as my older Lexus.Don't fret,drive and enjoy!
I own 997.1 4s cab., 964 C2 tip. and 3.2 Targa now. More than 15 years ago I became the president of national PC (Slovenia). My Porsche at that time was 986 1999 and there were a lots of GT3s or turbos around. Bad conduct that you describe at the beginning was expelled also as legendary Porsche owners entered the club immediately after then (racers, engineers, mechanics...) who set the standards corresponding the enthusiasm that makes a good PC. In recent years there some buzz appeared by younger guys getting their GTs turbos and other fancy Porsches too easy. So a year ago we produced a code of conduct. Among other it is reminding them that the most expensive car in the club - a 1964 356 alu cabrio, is the unique in the world, so they so or so cannot buy a more expensive one and so they should relax and enjoy the company of finest people I know.
Former Porsche owner here. The only problem I had with mine was that I needed to hire a phalanx of security guards to keep the legions of hot chicks from throwing themselves at me as I drove down the street. This was for their safety, wouldn't want hotties to get injured, of course. Strange thing, I drive a used Toyota Camry now and it's still happening. Must be my nearly insane level of handsomeness.
Sounds like you need window tinting on all windows. Most places limo tinting is only allowed on the rear windows, but I’m sure you can get an exception once folks look at you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
A perfectly said appraisal of Porsche ownership! Especially for those of us driving non-911 Pcars! Fortunately time is proving the naysayers wrong. Porsche has always delivered gifts to the drivers of the world and anyone saying otherwise might need to re-evaluate their purpose 😊
If people have friends/people in their lives or live in an area full of people who look down on even a perception (accurate or not) of success, you need different people in your life, and to live somewhere else. The envious hatred of positive values is the most toxic vibe to be around. Run don't walk from anyone or anyplace swimming in that toxic emotional stew. Which admittedly is getting harder and harder to do as our culture sinks into normalizing such a perspective, but no matter. There are always people and places that admire success and are happy for others when they see it.
I love porsche But i have recently learned about cylinder bore scoring on S models only and that is the only thing holding me back from purchasing one because I am only interested in S models I drove a Porsche Cayman S it felt under powered that is why i am not interested in a non S because of smaller engine and i am afraid to take anyones word on the scoring issue I wish i could be sure
Bore Scoring can be an issue, especially on larger displacements models. Depending on if you are looking for new or used, you could look at an early 996. They have just under 300 horsepower and a low curb weight and don’t tend to have the bore scoring issue and the 1999 and many 2000 models have the dual row IMS Bearing with an extremely low rate of failure (and there are after market upgrades to addeess the IMS Bearing issue if you are nervous). The interior is a bit on the plastic side, but if you just want a fairly dependable model with a decent amount of power, it may be worth test driving one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@OurRideLife I am mechanically inclined and can work on any engine I may have to look in to each cylinder with a bore scope to be sure and ims bearing doesn't bother me because I will fix that issue the very first week of ownership I have a 07 C6Z06 corvette with 505 hp that will satisfy my power needs I just would like add a Cayman or a 911 Porsche to my collection A 911 with a broken headlight appeals to me I just have to convince the seller to let me pull the plugs so i can see Thanks for your response and input
@@naturallyaspirated7829 if you have a bore scope and can pull the plugs that will give you a good idea. Good luck on adding a Cayman or 911 to your garage and enjoy all that Z06 power everytime you get a chance.
For thrills I ride motorcycles - as fast and way cheaper than Porsches. For miles I drive Toyota/Lexus - uncompromising reliability and cheap maintenance.
I wanted a motorcycle and when I tried to talk my wife into it I hit a large rock on a dirt bike and flew off the bike. My wife was there and said I couldn’t get a motorcycle. So, I got a Porsche instead. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
@@OurRideLife I've been riding m/cs for almost 60 years, but the only time I ended up in the ER with a concussion was riding a bicycle. Never can tell.
It's like any car maker with heritage and some expensive models. People make it into a status symbol. You could spend 150k on a 911, and then someone could come out and stomp your ass around a track in a Caymann S because they actually drive that thing.
Very true. A really good driver can drive a much slower car and win easily. Buying a more expensive car doesn’t make you a better driver. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
At least the Boxster driver won't kill himself going around a corner like the 911 driver will. Since on the Boxster the engine is in the correct spot and does spin out the back end like a giant pendulum. I have experienced this personally.
That is especially true the further back you go or if you turn off the technological wizardry. Of course I did manage to spin a Boxster when I hit a puddle on a freeway on-ramp, but managed to have no damage to the car. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Drive whatever car makes you happy. My 911 4S makes ME happy. I could care less what anyone else thinks or says about my car choice. A Porsche is a Porsche! If you have one, any model, be happy you are driving one of THE BEST engineered cars on the road. As for the "i" cars, they are all about flash & cash. Porsche is prestigious without the need to "shout" about it.
I know lots of 911 owners who also own a Boxster. It's different animal... and better 50/50 balance. Any hate among Porsche owners, from 917 to 918 is just stupid. One family of people who love cars.
Very true. The Boxster handling is completely different and feels more natural to most. The 911 is an incredible car, but Porsche engineers have had to take many years to make the handling more neutral versus the Boxster and Cayman that have the inherent advantage. Porsche makes a lot of good cars and we should just enjoy each for what it is. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I got 3 porsches, 2 or 3rd owner, complete paper book and history. Always respected the car and the warning process. And still, it was not at all a reliable ownership. They are reliable but require a lot of maintenance and care.
Good point on them being reliable, just make sure to keep them maintained or it will tend to cost a lot more (although they aren’t always cheap to maintain depending on what you can do yourself). Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
The main thing about Porsche is reliability. If it's a recent model base 911 or a 20 year old base 911, maintenance is a huge thing. Usually people who own high performance cars buy Porsche as their weekend car or lease it. The Macan, Tayman, and Panamera was built to be daily drivers, but all Porsche models have high maintenance. Issues like a oil change even replacing a tire is an expense. You drive a new Toyota Camry and need a oil change and replace damaged tire, $70 for oil change, $140 for tire replacement. If the same issues happen on a 911, you're pay 3x-5x for the same issues.
Fair point if you don’t do your own maintenance. Tires will always be expensive, but if you change your oil yourself it will cost about $70 or so about the same as having a dealer change the oil in a Camry. Of course if you don’t do it yourself expect to pay quite a bit more. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Love my 2006 boxster S, since 2019. Can't imagine, winter snow tires, storage winter time!? Especially when cruising around, topdown in paradise! Aloha from Hawaii !! Best weather on planet!
@@OurRideLife just had a hurricane Dan pass south of isles, last week. Covered ,cleared, protected boxster and was a little paranoid, but alls good, no damage or anything else. Got till November, hurricane season ends! Aloha!
@@OurRideLife I can handle the heat, but the humidity is wicked. topdown with the tradewinds blowing , cruising to the beach, is the only relief! Views are so beautiful, it's a hazard. Keeping eyes on the road is dangerously hard! (bikinis) Aloha
I've owned 6 Porsche 911s. Starting with a 1996 911 Cabriolet and my last was a 2013 911S Cabriolet. And I ALWAYS bought a CPO Porsche! They come with an extra 2 years of warranty when the original warranty expires. I typically would get rid of my Porsche very close to the end of the CPO warranty. Anyway, owning 6 CPO Porsches I only had to use the CPO warranty 2 times. I guess I got lucky? Porsche's are great cars and they are very well built. I'd own another one except I now live on a 105 acre ranch where I don't need a Porsche. :( lol I need a truck!
Awesome history and agree that you need a truck with that ranch, unless you build a race track around the perimeter. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Never owned a porsche but seriously thinking about getting a 2016 forest green 911 targa 4 with 40k on the odometer. Overall good car? Do you think if I get it I’ll wish I got something different? Havent had it checked out yet, but based off the ad, appears to look brand new. Middle aged guy here not looking for attention… yes its very pretty, but to me it looks like your typical porsche 911. Any thoughts, advice or even negative opinions about the car would be greatly appreciated; Im starting to get tunnel vision about it and thats not a good thing financially, lol
They are nice cars and I personally like the Targa look. Things to watch out for with it is that the automatic top mechanism works correctly and smoothly. Make sure to drive it and ensure that it drives how you like. They have plenty of power for the street, but are a bit more of a GT car compared to an older 911 or a Cayman. If you decide you want to go for it make sure to get a pre-purchase inspection. If you aren’t sure of good shops for this in your area you can reach out to the local Porsche Club of America chapter for recommendations. I would recommend that you find your own shop and not use a shop that a seller is recommending. With any used cars expect for some things to be found, but also be prepared to walk away from the car if the report finds anything that keeps you worried. Hope that helps and if you do purchase it that it ends up being a dependable fun car for you.
I have enjoyed 14 Porsches over 36 years. All the models except the SUVs. I don’t care what others think including some who look down on owners of certain models. I often get compliments and many pleasant sharing of Porsche stories. 3:31
Agree on the snobbery, you have to just ignore it. I have a Boxster, its my 2nd one and I love them. Ferdinand Porsche first created the 356 which was also a roadster 😂.
Good points. I’m a fan of the Boxster having owned one for over six years. In that time it was fun and dependable. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Ferdinand Porsche was partly responsible for Germany losing ww2 - why? his tanks such as Tiger Tank were extremely complicated and expensive like modern Porsche vehicles and when they broke down which was often it took more men away from the battles and more time to repair them unlike the Russian T34 and USA Sherman is a fact
I’m good with them and they seem to fit the character of the 944 or 928. On the 911 the sound’s doesn’t quite go with the car, although if someone put the new Z06 engine in a 911 that may sounds more like it belongs in a 911. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
You are probably right at least to the level it can be. The fact that quite a few folks couldn’t tell the Boxster and the 911 apart probably started it. Of course the Boxster is quite a good and fun car, so it is not deserved. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
i have a 911 turbo and a boxster S...and i have to admit, that, except the power and acceleration, the boxster is the better car. put the 911turbo engine in a cayman and it would be amazing..
I love my 07 987. I've driven a 911 and it was a nice car, but I didn't need all the flash. I have older cars that get a lot of attention when I'm out, and as much as I sometimes like the attention, at times I just want to be more anonymous, and my 987 gets me very close. It's classy without being overly flashy and it doesn't push me into the 911 area of snobbery. I've been told that when I become wealthy enough, I'll buy a 911, and I replied, I hope I never reach that level. At that point I'll have lost what makes people like me and I'll be a snob just like the rest of the 911 people I can't stand. Sorry, I was in another car community and sold that car and was very relieved when I did. When I'm occasionally asked about my car and the real cost of ownership. I tell them that the parts are more expensive, but are comparable to the cost of any nicer aftermarket parts price for other cars, except these are just Porsche parts, not some expensive after market ones because they don't need to be. The only nasty thing is going to a Porsche dealer which feels like extortion. I told him to take the car to a good independent shop, or do the repairs yourself, they're surprisingly not so difficult. When I tell people this, they're amased that I don't act like a snob. I tell them, it's just a car. A well built one, but still, just a car.
Yes all Porsches are well built nice cars, but they are still just a car. It is funny because I let people borrow my car and they often are nervous to drive it. I always tell them it is just a car, just don’t get hurt yourself. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I’ve posted a similar video about Porsche 911 ownership with much better audio here:
ruclips.net/video/Cd6B2mZyI4Q/видео.html
"Even if you aren't rich in a depreciated Porsche you'll feel like a millionaire when you go to the dollar store." made my day 😂😂
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
“Made your day”, eh? 🐩
My depreciation category is around the Cayenne. Most cars that have survived long enough don't experience the kind of catastrophic failures as a modified tuner
anyone can have a porshe ,the problem is having money to put gasoline on it, it makes me remenber some 20 years ago a guy was stoped in then BP station with a alfa-romeu gtv v6 3.0 and i notice he put only 1€ of gasoline ,inside the station i found a friend that i haven´t seen for maybe 7 to 8 years and told him with very low volume ,but he shouts ,you dumb asshole with a car like that ,only 1€ of gasoline ,it´s only to get home ,no!!! i felt ashamed because i was the only one outside when he was putting gasoline in his gtv but everybody inside the store looked at him ,maybe because it was the best car stoped on the station
@@luislongoria6621that should be not legall by law, i don´t like to see young man dead on the side of the road, sometimes in bits
You won't get as many good deals at garage sales when you pull up in a Porsche.
When you drive out to the mountains and go for a hike you may look down from the peak and see your Porsche sitting there waiting and be unable to enjoy the view.
You may even skip the hike entirely,drive right past your exit and just keep going.
There's no boring errands in a Porsche.
Every drive is a secret mission.
The garage sale is where you also have a $2,000 beater that looks like it won’t make it, just for that. Otherwise they won’t haggle.
As for the hike and view, you know you can see the world out the windshield with a smile on your face.
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so true. Keep driving, don’t want to stop. It’s a poison.
Best comment 😁
Expensive, yes. Get maintenance at the dealership and it is also insanely expensive. 20k mile inspection, oil change, in cabin air filter last week was $800. Now they do pick up and deliver and leave me a brand-new Porsche loaner for the two days but it is crazy expensive. On the other hand, when my transmission went at 61K (1K past warranty) the service manager convinced the factory to replace it because I had done all the maintenance at the dealership. All that expensive maintenance saved me from a 19,000 repair bill.
That is a good point and awesome to save nearly $20K.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
How much did you pay the service dept beforehand tho? Total end cost savings? Lol
@@IWillSmurfYou Oil change about once a year. Comprehensive inspection at 20 and 40 k miles. Tires and brakes times one. About 1800 for the yearly services, 800 for the comps, 3k for the tires and brakes (they replace the pads and rotors, though). So, about $5600 for service over six years. Now you have to remember that they come and get my vehicle, leave me a brand-new Porsche, then bring mine back. The dealership is about 90 minutes away from me so it saves me a huge amount of time, an entire Saturday, over taking it in myself. In addition, that model had a LOT of recalls and every time there was one, they'd contact me, set up the appt, and come get my car, leaving me a loaner, all at zero charge. I add it all up and it feels like a pretty fair exchange. Add in the free transmission and I believe I came out ahead. The entry price for the vehicle is steep, for sure, but paying for that name means paying for all the engineering and experience behind it.
In other words, you've already paid for the new transmission 3 times over.. smdh (just wait for your 50mile check) LMMFAO
ooops 5o THOUSAND.. :)
I graduated from business school in 2001. Given I met my goals in terms of ROI I wanted to buy a 911. What was new and on the market? The 996. I adore my Porsche, the fact that the headlights match the LeMans winner is a bonus. What you say is true. A guy where I work now attempted to belittle my car as it is a 996 so not a "real" Porsche. He could not have made his envy more obvious.
Very good point about being envious and because of that trying to put someone down. I remember visiting a Porsche dealership in college when the 996 was the current model and I really wanted one. I have to admit that was a factor in choosing it over a 997 or 987 Cayman S that were in my same price range at the time.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
@@OurRideLifeare you psychologist then?
Your comment about financial assumptions some people make about Porsche owners is so true. I drive a second-hand, 13 year old 987.2 and get teased quite a bit. I don't think the average person can differentiate between my $25k car and a brand new $175k 911 Carrera GTS.
That is a very true statement. As long as you have a modern enough Porsche in decent condition, most think it costs about the same as a new model.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I get the same perception with my 20 year-old Mercedes S-Class AMG. I was simply smart enough to take advantage of depreciation while paying cash.
lets not get carried away
Tease them back. Both act like sissies
First of all what kind of adult has the time or energy to tease another adult over their CAR? Secondly, do you mean teased by more expensive Porsche owners that you have and older one? They're obviously idiots because that's one of the best modern platforms Porsche has built. Or teased for what, appearing to be able to afford a Porsche? On what planet does this happen? That's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. What are you supposed to aspire to, poverty and driving a '97 Buick LeSabre? This world is crazy lol...
I have a 2017 Cayman S and feel the sting of the snot-nosed 911 owners who look down their nose with disdain at anything other than a 911. Even a friend of mine passed a comment saying when you grow up you'll buy a 911, such a dopey statement and I won't repeat what I said back to him. This is a superior piece of workmanship that drives wonderfully and is a true sports car, the new 911's have grown too big and even thou wonderful cars are now sports/tourers in my opinion. When that Porsche badge is placed on the hood of one of the company products, it's a true Porsche regardless of what anyone says.
Very well said. The Cayman S is a wonderful car. While the 911 is also very good they are very different, but in many ways the Cayman is better from a sports car perspective. Sometimes it is more about a 911 being more expensive, but not everyone likes the way a 911 drives, so we can all enjoy what we prefer and Porsche makes some wonderful machines.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
the motor is better placed so yes, they keep the cayman down in engine and hp but they know it will outperform the 911 on track if they didnt downgrade
Had Cayman 987.2 S MT and daily drove it. Fantastic car and engineering. Only real issues were the headliner (had a local upholstery shop replace it) and the usual broken shift cable at about 60k IIRC. Ended up being cheaper to have the dealer replace and upgrade the cable than an independent. Insurance was LESS than the Civic it replaced! My commute became much longer, so I was only driving it on weekends and eventually sold it. Great car though. Do everything at the dealer and you will pay $$$. If you do your own basic maintenance, not bad at all. Just DRIVE them!
@@mikesecret8221 thanks for sharing your experience and advice. I love Caymans and when I’ve driven them they are such fun sports cars, especially on the right roads.
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It’s still not a 911
Caymen is for your wife if she wants one
In 25 years I have owned 13 Porsches, from classic SWB air-cooled to 996 C4, and the 4 cylinder water pumper transaxles... They are all Porsches and owners need to know their cars are like women and need lots of love! lol
Very well said! My uncle used to say that about British cars being like women, but he would add if you find a good one you need to keep it. Good thing is more good Porsches are out there.
Also, I’ve been following your channel and congrats on the growth.
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Well put👍
My biggest cost so far on my 2007 987 Boxster S was the wheel alignment that I had to do at a Porsche dealership in Glasgow, because the local garage messed up so badly I couldn’t trust them anymore!
Other than that, I do all the maintenance myself and for the last 3 years, I’ve only spend around £900 on it.
The other big investment I had for the car was a spare set of wheels for the winter tyres. All for under £1000.
The car has 132k miles and as the saying goes, “The best smiles per mile you can get!”.
I’ll never be without one ever again!
Sounds like an awesome ride. Enjoy it as often as you are able.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I have an Audi and my local shop messed it up as well so i had them take it to Audi dealership from there and they fixed it and paid for everything
it´s maybe one of the gratest porshes ever in driving pleasure but i never paid that much for any revision and the car is perfect today, the only car without top that i own ,either than a boat called Pontiac GrandPrix from 67, i live in a region with sun all year but to drive without top it´s a feeling of having the head burning because of the sun and in winter the sun is very low ,even worse
I've heard boxsters are known to throw water pumps. Has your's ever given you any problems?
@@Castan0157 the one i bought cheap already around 20 years ago is still running, made the maintenance but the water pump is okay and if needed to change it´s cheap and one can install it at home in the parking way to the garage and a pleasure to drive ,i used to not like them that much but after driving one had to have it
Great vid. I’ve owned 3. 944, 07 Caykan S and 996 Turbo S. All manual, what I’ve learned is buy the best one you can. The 944 I bought was low price and bad shape. It cost lots. My other too and cheery and cost very little so far. They are low miles and in great shape. I drive them hard. Super fun cars. Oddly the cayman because it’s red is the real head turner. I drive them solely for the driving experience not statutes. I have other cars as well they are all different. V8 M3, Fiat 500 Abarth and a Saabaru. All different and I love them all. Would love a gt350R. Want a muscle car next. Cheers boys.
Great advice and sounds like some fun rides.
Back when I was running a fairly popular car blog that I started, Ford invited me to Laguna Seca to drive the Shelby Mustang GT350R when it first was released. Unfortunately, my schedule didn’t allow for me to go, but my wife had a wonderful time on the track with it. Her first car was a Mustang, but not a V8, so to drive the latest most powerful Mustang was a dream come true for her.
The great thing about cars are they are all a bit different.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Being able to drive the most exciting cars on the road and not being noticed is priceless! I love that about Porsche. Also I find them to be extremely reliable, and Porsche has never sleazed out of a warranty work.
I personally prefer the low profile, but I know some people want cars for the attention. I personally think it is all about the driving experience, but some think differently.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts and experience.
I blew two rear main seals in my 911. I was young and beat it to death… lol 😂 they can be broken if you drive them as they are intended to be driven. But I will say it withstood the punishment. The turbos are actually more reliable. They don’t really do recalls so. Remember vw fights them tooth and nail and was actually forced to do their last major one by the us government. Emissions scandal sound familiar… Porsche operates similarly. If it does not beak they don’t voluntarily just fix it preventatively They just fix all the defects by the time the turbo model launches. Like the ims bearing. It was faulty in the first gen 996. So they did a mid life update. And fixed the issue with a gen 2 and the turbo model.
You get excited when you drive? What about? Perhaps you should have more driving lessons if you experience anxiety? 🦍
@@Ricardo-eg3wnboring!
what are you talking about@@Paul-zm7mu
I have had five air-cooled 911s. A 928 a 944. I now have a 986 S and A 996.2 coupe. I love them all. I like the headlights on the 996 and anyone that calls a Boxster a hairdresser's car has never driven one.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience and thoughts.
Well i have driven a Boxter and to say its a hairdresser car is a lack of respect for the hairdressers. Its a regular car, low on power, not exciting to drive at all.
@@gilgil5351 which one did you drive? I was just up in the mountains with a turbo a GT3 and 2 late model 911s. And I hung in there pretty fucking good.
@@gilgil5351 just curious what do you drive?
That said.. hairdressers are still allowed to own boxters 😊🤣
Hmm! A lot to take on board here! I’ve had 3 Porsche’s and all of them have been expensive to maintain, even using independents instead of main dealerships! My experience of Porsche after sales service quite appalling especially over what you would call warranted items. When my PDK imploded due to an ‘electrical’ fault they refused any help with a replacement despite the vehicle having completed less than 14,000 miles! Yes it was 5 years old but non the less, really? Cost of repair to me via a specialist £10,500! A previous Boxster S cost me £3,500 for a rear suspension rebuild…..the vehicle had completed 65,000 miles but even so!!! I’m also disappointed at the level of some of the parts now used on these high end cars. I thought I was investing in high quality German engineering!
All that said the driving experience is second to nothing I’ve driven before and always gives me a smile.
Ouch sounds like your experience has been expensive with repairs. At least they are fun to drive no matter what you end up paying.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
This is why I've never owned a Porsche outside of warranty. I've had very few problems with my three Porsches that were under warranty. But I don't trust the build quality enough to keep them for a hundred thousand miles or more.
For a long time German cars are intentionally unreliable so they can scam customers. There is only one way these days - a new car with extended 200K km/5 years warranty and you get rid of it with some month of residual warranty!
I just bought one, a 718 GTS. I’ve already made so many considerations like ‘not’ telling certain people about it for fear of being thought of badly (silly really as there are SO many more expensive cars that slip under the radar). I won’t tell my boss about it because I want a pay rise. I wouldn’t drive it to certain client meetings. All these things are a shame but when you drive it everything else doesn’t matter! I don’t really like the image thing but I LOVE cars and this is one of the best there is, certainly the best car I’ve ever had.
It’s funny how some people think the cheapest Porsche costs the same as a new GT3 RS, but as you said none of that matters once once you drive it. Enjoy your 718 GTS as often as you can.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I was thinking the same thing. If I would ever buy a Porsche I think people would think Im crazy for spending so much.
Eh? 🤪
2 years ago, I was seriously considering a 991.1 Turbo, but decided to "save money" and sprung for a Jaguar F-Type SVR for two reasons: proximity to Porsche & Jag dealership (each is hundreds of miles away), and because I live in an area with 5+ months of snow/ice. (Yes, I bought snow tires and daily drive it). Now, I'm limited by space in my garage, but I vow to own at least 1 Porsche in my life. Thanks for the information. RUclips algo wins again.
The Jaguar F-Type SVR is quite a car and should be enjoyed as often as possible. When you get a Porsche enjoy it just as much as the Jaguar.
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Seriously? Perhaps you should move somewhere with better weather and forget about cars. All those wheels and stuff 🧚♂️
Just saw a post on Reddit. Dude bought a 996 with 57k miles 6 months ago and the engine just imploded. IMS had not been addressed. Don't know for sure if that was actually it but bad things really can happen. I worry about the low mileage examples for sure. My 2001 was 37k miles when I bought it last year and immediately drove it to my indy and had the whole alphabet soup replaced. IMS, AOS, RMS, clutch. $7k right off the bat but worth my peace of mind in the long run. I've saved thousands of dollars in labor by doing everything else myself. Oil changes, engine mounts, fuel filter, water pump, thermostat, coolant reservoir, coolant hoses, brake lines, etc. Bay Area indy specialists average $200/hour for labor. It's actually fun to work on and my 6 year old gets to "work on the airbox" with his plastic tool set.
I personally feel more nervous with low mileage examples and would do a ton of preventative maintenance on one of those, especially when you consider that you likely paid more for a low mileage example and the risk of parts going from the sitting goes up. Sounds like you have the right idea to prevent the common bad issues. I also agree working on your car yourself can be a lot of fun and getting your children involved makes it fun for them.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
I've got a 2000 Boxster S I did the IMs RMS clutch 3800 bucks I sleep just fine at night and I drive the shit out of it.
Should’ve got Mezger Turbo motor.
Let’s see. Last bought a ‘13 Boxster S for 42,900 with 63,000 miles. First off forget about tires. It depends on what type you get, how hard and how much you drive. The car I bought needed “maintenance “ I changed half the PDK fluid $45. Eight liters of Liqui-Moly oil and filter $140. Three liters fluid for the differential $45. K&N filters $180. Those are lifetime filters. No clutch or clutch cables or CV axles or timing belt to change- ever. Won’t change the dif fluid for another three years. I replace half the PDK fluid every year. Oil and filter and that’s it. Front brakes were new when I bought it and doing great after 11,000 miles and rears will lay another year or two and be about $350-400 when time. I do all this myself. I’ll need a drive belt which my Indy will do for less than $250 plus the belt. This is all this car needs for a very long time. That’s just not that much, sorry whiners. It’s been absolutely bullet proof through almost two years and other than replacing the original battery there nothing else. I installed a 13 lb lithium battery to reduce weight by 35 lbs and installed a cat back exhaust myself to save another ten lbs. the car gets 22-24 mixed driving and over 30 mpg on the highway. I daily it when I’m not driving my company vehicle. If this is too much for you than my sympathies. I’m a lowly blue collar technician and only make about six figures. I also got a three year warranty and will have the whole car checked out before it expires at a Porsche specialist. Ive gotten one single negative comment and dozens of wows. It turns head wherever it goes in the rural area I live and get zero negative comments at PCA events. This car is basically half 911 and built on the same assembly line and to the same quality standards. As for handling you can’t beat physics. A mid-engined car will always have inherent advantages over a rear engined car and that’s just the laws of physics. If you’re willing to do the maintenance yourself and buy a $1,400 dollar Quick-Jack you will probably have the same experience I do
I think you hit the nail on the head. If you do the maintenance yourself (and keep up on everything) then they can be quite cost effective to own, especially for the wonderful machine you get to drive.
Your Boxster sounds like a great car, enjoy it as often as possible, especially if you can find a curvy back road.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
You are spot on. I'm on my third Porsche now, and have felt most of those, yet to get a large repair bill 🤞🤞. My first was a 986 Boxster, and I've never owned a better car, she was sublime. I then had a 955 Cayenne, which was a very sporty SUV. I'm now on a 996 Carrera, she's awesome. Strangely though I yearn for the Boxster, I was warned about that, many feel it's better than a 911, and in many ways they are right. But I wouldn't get rid of my 996!
The struggle is real. The best answer is to get a another Boxster if you have the garage space.
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I have a 996 and have found the cheapest way to get the thrills of a smaller lighter mid engined car has been to park a 1991 MR2 next my Porsche. Best decision
@@zeusmultirotor8479 that does make for quite the garage.
@@zeusmultirotor8479 How do you like the driveability of the rear engine compared to the mid one ? I own a Lotus Elise S2, and am looking in the future to add another car to my garage, never tried any Porsche so I'm curious about it, while the Cayman is obviously more balanced, the 911 seems to offer a completely other experience...So I tend to think that a second mid engine wouldn't make much sense.
@@steevenbrunner3261 I have driven a Cayman S and my gut feeling is that if you want to add a car to your garage that is very different from the Elise I would go for a 911. The rear engine has a different feel from the mid engine. Especially coming out of a high speed corner. To put it another way, my MR2 (and the cayman) dance through corners while the 911 Turbo inhales them
I’ve had a 2000 Boxster base since 08 a blast to drive. I just got a 2014 911 S solid reliable comfortable awesome dream car my opinion it’s better to get one that may cost you a little bit more with all the options so you don’t have to do anything like sport exhaust better to pay for it already installed with a button after market very pricey. You’re totally right there’s so many nice people in the Porsche clubs and groups and meet ups and Porsches n pancakes , cars n coffee and driving through the twisty turns is heaven on earth it’s not about top speed. wearing our tires as a privilege I’m looking forward to wearing out my set of pilot sports tires it just means I’m driving the hell out of that machine and that’s what I bought it for.
Sounds like you had a great Boxster and now are enjoying a very nice 911 S. The 991 is quite a machine and certainly has an upscale feel inside. Eat a bit of rubber whenever you can.
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I have a 987.1 that I brought when I was 25. For me, it was a massive accomplishment, I knew the exact day that I saw one on the road and decided that I wanted one. It took me almost 10 years to get there, but I’ve got there in the end.
I love driving the car and although I’ve had to replace some expensive parts in it, I’ve tried my best to take care of the car and it is something that I cherish. Yep, I would like to get a 911, but on the other hand I would never wanna let go of this car.
All already matters is how it makes you feel
I purchased my 1987 Porsche 944 NA 3 years ago and chose it because I believe it is not only beautiful with classic styling but handles fantastically due to the superior weight balance. I have put 300 hours of restoration and have had some PCA 911 purists telle my car was in amazing shape and they were genuinely impressed 👌
To see a 944 in good condition is a rare thing. When they got really cheap so many of them got trashed, so seeing one in great condition is something very special. Thanks for keeping one of these great machines going.
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@@OurRideLife Thanks for your great feedback 👍
My first Porsche is my current car. A 2021 Carrera S with a 7- speed manual. It is a CPO with a total of five years factory warranty and unlimited miles. Pricey? Yes, but so worth it and with the added peace of mind with the five year CPO warranty.
Sounds like a nice ride. I’ve been looking at a CPO myself with a Porsche Macan as a family car, so when I take the entire family to events we can still be in a Porsche. The warranty is certainly worth it should anything major and expensive go wrong.
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Moral of the story, buy something you like and enjoy it. Ignore the naysayers. They only say what they say because secretly, they're jealous of you for having something they don't.
Very true and when you don’t care what others think you can just enjoy life a bit more.
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Are you psychologist too?
Honestly, after dreaming about having a Porsche for 50 years, if it somehow happened, the last thing I would care about is what anyone says or thinks of the one I got my hands on. I have driven a 911, a boxter, and a panamera. I loved all of them. I couldn’t believe how the steering/throttle/brakes on the new panamera felt for example, I loved getting to drive them. Frankly if you buy the most specd out 911 just to show off your money, and you hate all the other models, it’s you who are not a real Porsche lover you should have just bought a watch. I think anyone I see with one, no matter which one has done great for themselves and I congratulate them on getting to do it. If they know how to actually drive it, instead of tooling around at 30 mph all the time afraid to get it dirty, that’s great too.
Sorry for the late reply (catching up on comments).
I completely agree with you.
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I’m on my second and it’s a base model 997. I don’t really care what other drivers think, to me it is a special car and worth far more than the price I paid for it, if only in terms of how I screw my neck around each time I leave it somewhere. Like me it’s big standard and I love it, because of , and not despite, the history.
Sounds like an awesome car. Enjoy it as often as you can.
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Just bought my new Cayman S. Loving it. With all the options added, the price is pretty close to a 911. Who knows, maybe one day I will buy a 911. But for now, I am loving this Cayman
Sorry for the delayed response (I got behind on comments and am just catching up).
The Cayman S is a great car. Enjoy it as often as you can.
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I drive a minty 944 and I have to say, literally every time i drive that car I get compliments on it. Its like buying the cheapest ticket to the best show in the world.
The 944 is a great dependable car as long as it is maintained well. Fun to drive and plenty of old school feel. Enjoy driving it as often as you can.
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Owned 2 water cooled and both were nightmares, Owned 1 air cooled and that was a Gem.
I’ve personally been lucky with the water-cooled cars, but some have not been so lucky. Having said that, I wouldn’t mind an air-cooled Porsche in the garage. I just need a bigger garage or a shop like Tavarish, but perhaps someday.
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I’ve a 996.2 C2, the most hated 911, I’ve had a 2.7 986 Boxster and a 2.7 Cayman, I can honestly say I’ve loved each and every one, with the exception of replacing the ims bearing on the 911 (996) I generally do all my maintenance purely to be involved and learn about the car, I’ve never looked down on any Porsche, my first Porsche was a very scabby 924 which I thought was as exotic as can be, I love the 911 as the grandkids can jump in the back with the top down…..Fun, Fun, Fun, also because it has no driver aids to ruin the rear end fun, let’s just think how lucky we are to be driving these beauties before it’s all gone.
Very good points, especially as cars continue to move away from what makes these cars great and become more numb.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Had a 993:
Expensive oil changes. Air channels would lead to a top end job on the 5-10k dollar line at 50k miles...and was told this happens and is maintenance. Tires were 300 to 500 each in the back. It was hard to find parts then and now it might be horrible.
And it was actually not that fast.
Then had a 996TT:
Was fast as heck in context.
Bought a bulletproof metzger or so I thought.
Had a 2nd gear tranny fork issue: 8k dollars and 8 weeks down at a speed shop (double that at a dealer).
Had a vacuum leak - needed 22 feet of tubing debugged at hourly rates.....engine dropped of course....8k.
Had to get coolant lines pinned....5k.
Normal plugs and oil...expensive.
Tires - a lot if I went N type....and when I did not the car was not happy.
Too fast for the normal street at stage 2....so it got boring because I could not use it on the street at over 3/10ths and on track it was terrifyingly fast - had suspension/cage/buckets....it was too much for the street and too little for the track - learned to leave street cars alone....
If the engine went - 30k or even 50k was quoted....hard to find, etc. Just a europipe exhaust was 5k dollars.
Dollars.
Lots of little stuff too ....Porsches are just cars.
Now I have read a few things about the cars of today:
1. Bore scoring is very common if not universal.
2. The GT type cars I love are priced out of reach for anyone normal.
3. Lots of people drive Porsches today for the label appeal....more than before as a percentage in my opinion, at least around here.
The 911 owners still think they are the only real porsches except for a gt4 perhaps.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is always good for people to go in with their eyes wide open to make a wise decision to keep it on the road.
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"Expensive oil changes"-- it's not hard to change your own oil. These cars have 2 oil filters, right? So a PITA I get it. Changing oil and adjusting the valves (not applicable on the hydraulic 993 lifters, I think?) are the basic skills that used to be a requirement for owners of air cooled cars.
"Air channels would lead to a top end job on the 5-10k dollar line at 50k miles" -- can you clarify? I've never heard of this, and while I'm not a 993 guy (I have an '81 SC), I'm interested in learning more.
Porsches are for people that want a reliable sports car. As an Italian friend told me that was born in Italy, lives in Italy and owned a car parts business in Italy, "Ferraris are beautiful to look at, but if you want a real sports car, buy a Porsche".
Very good point. Ferraris are beautiful, but Porsches are just good performance cars.
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I’ve had 3 Porsches so far (‘88 3.2, ‘88 944t, ‘08 Gt3rs). One l used as a daily commuter for 13 yrs (50 miles/day), one I’ve tracked for 30yrs (full cage etc) and one I use for weekend drives with the wife. My commuter cost me the least to maintain. The weekend ride only just dipped big into my car budget (RMS) after 10+ year of ownership. My track car, … well, maintenance expenditures are high. So what have I learned.
With Porsches, they love best when you drive them always and a lot, but …. if you track ‘em expect to pay healthy amounts for upkeep. Though however, no where near BMW’s or Ferrari’s cost per track mile.
So guess which one I used for which task. There is a hint above. If ya know, you know.
My guess would be the 3.2 was the track car, 944 turbo the daily commuter and the GT3 RS the weekend car (based on the RMS comment).
As for the track use. I always remember that the best way to make a small fortune in motorsport is to start with a large fortune.
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@@OurRideLife Correct. Porsche people know their stuff.
I’ve had 7 911s. Benchmark for me has been 5,000-7,000 on the rear tires depending on what type of tires you are buying and the type of driving you’re doing. 10,000 on the fronts
That seems about right depending on the tires and how you drive.
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Seems a bit extreme for anything that doesn't have the JDM "Stance"
Just picked up a 1989 944 Turbo. This car is underrated and a masterpiece on the track and cruising on the weekend. Easy to work on and I'm a beginner mechanic.
Awesome car. My 944 N/A was very reliable and I had a friend that owned a Turbo and that was very fast and tuneable. Enjoy your 951 as often as you can.
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I have driven a beautiful 928 for years. I don't care what anyone thinks, it's a very pleasurable driving experience.
And the fact that you like it is all that matters. I’m a fan of the 928 and was close to getting one when I sold my 944, but a good deal on a 987 Boxster came up and was too good to pass up at the time. Still wouldn’t mind one of the best GT cars of all time if I get enough garage space.
Enjoy your 928 as often as you can.
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Strictly speaking, purists have always liked the 996 and the original Boxster. They both tick most if not all the important purist boxes. Being air cooled isn't really a purist thing. Being analogue is. Naturally aspirated engine, manual box, hydraulic or unassisted steering. Those are the key purist must-haves. The 986 Boxster has always been quite a useful test of whether someone is a purist or an ill-informed snob. Purists love 986 Boxster. The snobs don't. Point of all this is that I think you're a little unfair to purists. The point of being a purist is that it's all about the driving experience, it's not about being air-cooled for its own sake or similar. A purist will prefer a manual 986 Boxster to a 930 Turbo or indeed a 993 Turbo. Or really a 959, too. None of those cars are purist cars, despite two being air-cooled and one being something of an icon.
Fair point. Perhaps the term I should start using is Porsche Snobs instead of Purists.
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My favorite part is the Porsche Paranoia Syndrone !!!!! Should I park here ???? Is that idiot in the Caravan going to stop ???? Speed bumps, car washes, vandals, morons sitting on it (Realy) endless JOY 🤩.
I'm on my 4th Porsche. I bought my first 911 when I was 23 years old. A 1985 Carrera coupe Euro engine. 2nd was a 1991 Carrera 2 coupe, 3rd was a 2006 Cayman S, and my present Porsche, I just purchased a 2018 718 Boxster GTS. There all real Porsches !!!! My flat 4 turbo has a stealth Porsche soul, and it's by far the best engine I've experienced from Porsche. No other manufacturers make variable turbos or a turbo engine that redlines at 7400, other than Ferrari. Very few can make a transmission that even comes close to a pdk. I stayed at a hotel in an area saturated with WRX Suburus. I must have seen 20 different WRXs stop at the light and then motor on after it turned green. WRX engine sounds totally different than my 718. 718 engine has a sweet sound up top, especially. It's sounds like stealth jet, and is rapture fast! I love my 718 GTS, it's the best Porsche I've ever owned!
I like the 718 especially when you have it in the sweet spot. Enjoy yours as often as you can.
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Thank you.. this is the 1st video i watch in my coming long research.. it's in my to do list before I die..
I'm glad you found it helpful, good luck with your research!
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My first Porsche was a 1977 911S and I had it for decades, loved it! My current Porsche is a Carrera 4 that I dearly enjoy driving. With that said
Porsche ownership isn't for penny pinches or the cheap. Maintenance must be maintained or else you could be in store for costly repairs. But it is the ultimate driving experience in my opinion that's still affordable if you so desire!😁
Very good point. If you buy a well maintained example to start and invest in keeping it in good condition keeping up on maintenance, then you can enjoy them usually trouble free and without that single large bill. The drive is certainly worth it.
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A silver/black ‘77 S was my first Porsche as well. How did you handle the heat exchanger and air box issues?
@@BRLaue sorry if I worded something incorrectly, but I haven’t owned a 1977 911 S myself. I did get close to buying a 911 SC at one point and someone else got it just before I go there.
My first Porsche was a 1977, but it was a 924. Having said that, I’ve seen some people try to fashion something to help with the heat exchanger as I believe part of the issue is the flap that is supposed to open getting stuck. If I find the article of one of the fixes that I read a while ago, I’ll try to remember to send it your way (not sure if I can find it, but if I do I’ll let you know).
@@OurRideLife That’s ok, I was responding to C. Knight, thanks for the info.
@@BRLaue lol. That’s my fault. For me you both have green icons, so I thought you were the same person. I need to remember to read the handle instead.
I keep my Porsches. I've owned only 3 in the past 50 years. 1st was a 1970 914-6. 2nd was a 1980 911 SC. 3rd is now a 1999 996 cabriolet. I love them all !!
If you are going to talk non-stop you might want to check into better audio. I don't know if it is the mic or what, but hard to listen to. Otherwise, good content and I appreciate your videos.
Thanks for letting me know as that is very helpful information.
I may have been a little hash on my editing removing breaths, but I also recently switched to a wireless microphone. I may try to use my old mic for the next video and see if the sound quality is better and if it is I’ll invest in a nicer mic.
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I kept hoping you would slow down your talking speed. Love your channel though.
@@richarddamico9894 thanks for the feedback and I’ll try to take a breath next time and try to talk not quite so fast.
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I’ve recently started driving a 2001 Boxster, with 80k on the odometer. The car has been an absolute blast to drive. I’m 21 and its my first experience with a manual transmission and a Porsche in general. The previous owner replaced the IMS, RMS, clutch, and installed bucket seats and Bilstein adjustables. The only thing that wasn’t replaced was the AOS, which ironically failed a month into ownership. So that cost $120 and 6 hours of my time, it would probably have been $800 or more from a shop. But besides that, everything has been perfect! It’s absolutely magnificent to hear that flat 6 go, and the car has suddenly made me look rich in front of my friends. They were all pretty shocked when I told them it cost $15,000 and was cheaper than all of their cars, which they had gotten within the last few years.
Sounds like a fun ride. I know I enjoy my 986 Boxster for over six years with minimal work needed during that time. They are great cars. Enjoy it as often as you can.
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Tires are the least of your worries. My first Porsche was a 2008 Cayman S. Totaled it. Next, 2011 987.2. Even with the many improvements, it wasn't the same; sold it. It took awhile to admit it, but there is only ONE Cayman. The first one. In March of 2022 I bought a 2006 Cayman S and a 2005 Carrera S. I wanted to sort it out for myself once and for all. The 997 is brilliant and fast. It is an absolute joyous experience. Bottom line, I sold it and kept the Cayman.
Two different forms of perfection. blessings everyone and keep the shiny side up!
The early Caymans are very good cars. I nearly bought and early Cayman S before I bought my 996. When it is time to add another car to the garage it will likely be a Cayman as they are very good to drive.
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Just got on the wait list just to order a brand new 911 T. Only 8 people ahead of me, got lots of time to worry about forking it out….
When you get it, enjoy it as often as you can and I hope it is a fun dependable car for you.
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Apparently if you miss one maintenance visit then your warranty is void .
That is one way to make sure you keep up on maintenance, but harsh if you miss one visit.
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would you be scared to buy a 996 automatic that had a newer rebuilt engine from an IMS bearing failure? other than that it is super clean and seems like a great deal. In general is buying a rebuilt an engine too risky?
A rebuilt engine can be a positive, but the thing would be to find out who did the rebuild and is there documentation of the rebuild. If it was professionally done then engines often have a warranty, and if it has one I would make sure that it is transferable. If it is a backyard mechanic then it is riskier as some know what they are doing and others won’t torque things properly.
It would be a good idea to get a pre-purchase inspection no matter what.
Hope that helps.
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"Sticks and stones....". Back in '07 when I bought my 964 I bought it for me and didn't concern myself about anyone else's thoughts on the matter. Life is so much easier when you realise that pretty much every negative comment from someone originates not from any realistic personal assessment of you, but more likely is a reflection of some insecurity on their part. My kids are impervious to anything nasty aimed at them and they're sailing through waters that others, who are over-sensitised to what others may say, are drowning in. So - "sticks and stones..."!🙂
Very good points and awesome that you are raising you kids that way. They will be much better for it.
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@@OurRideLife Cheers mate and thanks for your kind words. It's sometimes hard being a dad - my kids didn't come with instructions!
Thanks too for going to the trouble of making these videos. Now that I am no longer a Porsche owner, I have to live vicariously through good folk like yourself! Cheers and have a great Christmas, from Sydney, Dave
@@deldridg thanks and you have a great Christmas as well.
Incidentally, I went Sydney when I was younger, but don’t remember too much from that trip. My family loves in New Zealand at the time and I’m hoping to go visit and show my kids New Zealand and Australia so they can see that part of the world.
I drive a Panamera S. The first time I took it to a local cad meet some kid said it wasn’t a “real Porsche”. He didn’t own a Porsche, but his dad did.
Funny how many people that don’t own a Porsche themselves have an opinion on what is a “real” versus “fake” Porsche.
A while back Porsche had me out to drive the Panamera lineup on the road and track and they are certainly good driving cars.
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Another thing about tires, (my uncle has a 1981 930 turbo and iirc a 2018 911S) you can't simply rotate them..the rears will wear at least twice as fast as the fronts leaving you with a decision..couple grand for 4 or half that for just rears and older tires in front? Wear may be more even on the AWD models, but still can't rotate.
Very good point about the tire rotation. On my previous Porsche (a 986 Boxster) I bought new tires with a warranty that was supposed to include free tire rotation. I went to get one, but because to rotate them they have to take them off the rim it cost $40 for the rotation.
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I've easily gotten 30k-35k miles on my Michelin tires on my AWD 4-door Porsches (and I do not let tread get very low)...
@@cbatiau2528 good to know, seems AWD seems to limit the tiny little bits of slippage that quickly add up to tire wear on the rear. I imagine brisk cornering on the regular can also contribute to quicker tire wear, but that isnt exclusive to rear/mid engined Porsche models.
Front and rears have different tread widths so can’t rotate.
@@michaelbauschka3396 for models that don’t have matching on all fours, you have to rotate from side to side and that requires that the tire get removed, so most tire shops will charge for this even if you have a free tire rotation warranty.
As a purist I think there’s a difference between real purist arguments and just being a Fanboy. For example I don’t get why people hate the Boxster/Cayman, both are great cars as they are physically more agile than a 911 due to the engine placement. I would take a Cayman GT4 over many 911 even the Turbo ones.
On the other hand I get why some dislike some orders models but just because of the auto gearbox that was used. The Tiptronic is so much slower than a manual or PDK and they take much of the fun in my eyes,
But I don’t get why the 993 is so (over)hyped… Porsche changed to water cooled engines because they couldn’t keep up with their competition. That was part of the reason why so few 993 were sold as they weren’t considered as good. Still a great car but so overpriced for what it is. I even saw a 993 Turbo S with Werkleistungssteigerung for like 1 million dollar…
But no one can tell me that the Cayenne is a real Porsche as the aren’t even produced in Germany rather Slovakia
In college I bought a “depreciated” 944 turbo. I tried to make it a daily driver, but it cost a fortune to keep running. Nobody told me I needed to let an oil cooled turbo idle for five minutes before turning it off. That was a 2500 dollar lesson, in a 2500 dollar car. Every month something else would break. Last straw was a clutch slave cylinder at 195. The comparable Volkswagen one was 15, but the bolt holes were opposite. I traded it on a Buick and drove that car for the next three years. I have a lot of friends with Porsches, but I will not be joining them.
I almost bought two different Porsches when I was in college. I had the money for the cars, but probably good I didn’t back then as if something went wrong I didn’t have the funds to fix it. But some end up paying a small fortune and others get lucky, but depends on the situation.
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You seriously comparing a modern Porsche to a 35 year old design? Wow. Not very bright.
Porsche probably offers the best blend of motorsport and daily usage in their cars. Unless you have the need to constantly drive with 3 adults in the car, you can perfectly use your Porsche for a daily commuter. And when an opportunity arises, it can become a beast of a vehicle in a few seconds. In my opinion, if you are in the market for a sports car that you can actually drive a lot, Porsche should be on top of your list.
Very true. Porsche provides great performance, but in a usable package which can’t be said for many other sports car makers.
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I drove a 997. In a month it burned out tires. Drank 2 liters of oil. Smoked brakes... i wash shocked at how bad it actually was. Great and fun car. My dream car since i was little. But i could drive it fast or slow. And it didnt change anything.
Well that isn’t good. I haven’t had those issues with my 996, but some have more issues than others unfortunately.
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Don't own a Porsche, but aspire to someday. Don't hold any grudges about models, and its nice to see that Porsche has offered lower costing models to make them in reach for various salary grades.
I hope when you do get a Porsche it is a good dependable car for you.
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Owned three. The air cooled wouldn’t get out of their own shadow in first gear. Better for Europe where winding roads mean no freeways and less stop and go driving. Stop and go means it will overheat and more repairs. A great European car
Very good point as the water-cooled versus air-cooled cars do depend on the environment as to which one is best for a given drive.
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Your videos always make me smile, Dave, and played no small part in my getting a 996 in 2021. It has all the features that the porschists (as I call them - funny how few of them drive a Porsche) love to hate. It's a Carrera 4, cabriolet, tiptronic, gen 1 and I love it. I would have got a Boxster but, er, well, I needed the extra seats for when the grandchildren come over. My sister-in-law told me she thought all 911 drivers were wankels but I explained that the Wankel was a very rare rotary engine that had never, as far as I know, been used by Porsche and that all 911s had a flat six, horizontally opposed, "boxer" engine. She had glazed over by then but she got the point.
You comment made be smile. Sounds like you have a good 996, enjoy it as often as you can and the backseats were one of my main reasons from moving from a Boxster to a 911.
Also thanks for sharing the wankels comment, I’m sure I’ll use it in the future.
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996, all wheel drive, automatic transmission, and its not even a coupe? that’ll get all the haters hating! seriously though, sounds like a fantastic car. would love to have an AWD 996 cabrio one day.
Haha I've got a 997.1 Carrera 4 cabriolet tiptronic and I f'n love it! Yeah, sure this and that...for the "porschists"
Comparison is the thief of joy.
On reflection, should there even be an h in porscist?
And prior to the snobbery of some 911 owners, there was the era when 356 owners felt the new 911 was not a ‘true Porsche’ (it didn’t have a 4 cylinder engine! Blasphemy!).
That is true. When I lived on the California central coast a neighbor had four 356’s and he worked on a ton of them. He was OK with the 911, but did like to remind others that the 356 was first. He also much preferred the 4 cylinder engines for working on.
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Had a '69 911T, a 2001 Boxster S and currently the wife drives a 2011 Cayenne Hybrid. No serious issues except an electrical harness that arc'ed causing the car to go into limpmode, but I am mechanically sympathetic and only drill them when fully up to working temperature and do proper maintainance myself. Wonderfull cars, if a little more expensive to maintain than the average Asian econoboxes...
That is similar with my experience. What I have owned has been very dependable and not too bad to maintain.
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Yea of all the communities I’ve been in, Porsche enthusiasts have the largest group of accepted “gatekeepers” no contest. They argue that specific models are better because they are more “special” but that’s another way of saying that they don’t drive them. And if you need your car to feel special, that says more about your personality than you know.
Very true. The cars are all good, just some of the owners (and certainly not most of them) ruin it for some others for no reason.
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i remenber people trashing the boxter when it came out and i found a great car to drive ,with manual gears off course , driving this cars with automatic doesn´t even make any sense, this unloved porshe was the last car i really had pleasure to drive, if the Alfa-Romeu 4C had manual gears with clutch it would be my favorite car to drive , all started to me with the 72 Lotus Europa and the dino ,both great cars to drive also i think i should mention the Renault Alpine A110 from the same era ,mine is a 73 ,allthough i love the design of the Renault Alpine A442 only changed the door mirrors to the ones from Alpine installed in the Renault 5 alpine turbo
You know your cars...I think people hated the first Boxster because it basically "shared / re-used" 911 parts at a fraction of its price plus MR config provided better drive / balance. The only downside is fixing / maintaining those older 986s as those parts / costs are are the same as 911.
@@Hoster987not hated ,but because it was cheap people don´t felt like having a cheap porshe and in reality was a very pleasant car to drive this with manual gear shifter, 1.8 engine might sound not that powerfull but to what the car was designed for, it´s more than enough , to drive fast on secondary roads it´s perfect
My first year of ownership of my 2002 Boxster cost me almost £10,000. The car cost me less than £8000. But I was 'committed'. Over the next six years it cost me another £8500. That's apart from road tax and insurance and fuel. And now it's gone and I can breathe a sigh of relief. Porsche? Nope, I'm cured.
All depends on the partial Porsche. When I had my 1999 Porsche Boxster maintenance cost me very little in the six years I owned (I did a video about it a few years ago), but I know some don’t have such a nice situation and making sure folks know the good and bad helps others decide if Porsche ownership is right for them.
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I am a big Porsche fan and owned three of them: a 924S, a 911 Carrera and a 911 Carrera 4S. But while I loved the exterior, I wasn't happy with the interior. I found them all to be uncomfortable and poorly designed ergonomically. The door sill was too high to rest my arm on, my right leg hit the center console, my left leg hit the door panel, the shifter was too far forward, no usable cup holders, seats were not comfortable enough and even my passengers didn't like being in it. I was also embarrassed to show anybody the interior with all the plasticky bits. As for how it drove, I would say that it was good but not great. Nothing to write home about. Overall, I really liked how they look on the outside, but at that price point I expect a much better interior. Today, I drive a JCW Mini Cooper and it addresses all of these issues and the driving experience is fabulous. I won't be going back to Porsche anytime soon.
I’ve owned a 924, 944, Boxster and my current 911. I agree that all the models that I‘ve owned have had a lot of plastic bits on the interior. I’ve thought about customizing the interior to make it look more upscale and have a video series on if it was worth it to put in all the upgrades (thinking of changing the seats, adding alcantara accents and changing the plastic for carbon fiber, but it could get quite expensive to do so). I haven’t had the ergonomic issues, but I drive with both hands on the steering wheel (except when shifting my past models) and I’m only 5’10” tall. I’ve heard that if you are taller that upgrades like a GT3 console delete are needed to have enough leg room and they can be uncomfortable to drive when taller. The 996 certainly has the most exposed plastic in the interior, but the 997 has a fair bit as well. It is an upgraded, but you have to go to the 991 to start having much nicer interiors in the water-cooled cars. I have to agree that they look great on the outside and are good driving cars out of the box although many invest in suspension upgrades to improve the driving experience (but like the interior that is throwing more money at the problem).
Glad you enjoy driving your Mini Cooper. The awesome thing about cars is there is something for everyone to enjoy and the fact that you enjoy it is all that matters. I had a friend with a Mini Cooper S and he loved it.
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That is just sad when people give up on life.
Porsche are reliable and an absolute joy to drive. They are one of the few special cars where you can feel absolutely safe driving it anywhere without having to worry about unnecessary attention or people wanting to vandalize them. They're rare enough to be seen as special by those who like them, but also common enough to avoid being too much of an attention magnet.
Kind of the sweet spot and part of why I love Porsche.
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I've got a 2017 Panamera S white/white on white rims & aftermarket exhaust, ppl on the highway will move over for me to pass by, feels like I'm a famous person, the car gets a lot of attention here in GA, to the point where ppl will follow me into parking lots or the entrance of my neighborhood, which gets kinda awkward when after I've made 2 wrong turns on purpose.
Time to hire security guards. Although, having the people get to the side would be nice, that doesn’t happen much in Florida (nor did it in California).
The last time I drove a Panamera was in the Atlanta area as PCNA hade me out to drive the lineup on the road and track. Amazing vehicle, especially on the track. Enjoy it as often as you can.
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@@OurRideLife I live out in the Covington area right off I-20 and work in Norcross, so some drives home, end quicker than others but I also got 21 RAM Big Horn that's my real daily.
I've owned a 911 and also serviced and driven my dads (both 996) and they're great cars but for modifying and constantly having to fix things, id rather own and tune a vw. I just picked up a cayenne turbo that needs a motor so well see how that works. I need a tow vehicle.
Hope the Cayenne ends up being good for you. I did own a 1959 VW Type 1 for a while and I do have to say it was easy to work on and I know the newer VWs, especially the GTI can be tuned as I recently met someone with a 400 horsepower GTI.
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I had a 993, boxster and currently have a 996. Did a 1300mile trip with a mate in summer. Has a 964, his overheated, mine did not miss a beat. Air cooled fine, but old tech. Depends what you like. As for my headlights ….love them, very similar to the carerra GT!
They are all good in their way, but there are reasons why Porsche did move to water cooled engines.
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The Boxster 986 is now a classic.
If this car wasn’t made there would be no more Porsche. It was responsible for saving the company. So show the Boxster some respect . These should be going up in prices as so many have ended up in the scrap yard because of accidents .When the hood is down it a beautiful little car , it has lovely curves. Drive one first before you knock them . They are a great drive. Most of the parts fit the 911.
The Boxster is a wonderful car and my 986 was very dependable over the six years that I had it. It may not have been the quickest car in a straight line (of course 20 year old cars are rare still considered quick), but I could take so much speed through a corner. Just perfect for a nice windy road. I probably would still have mine if it wasn’t for the usefulness of the back seats taking my children in it from time to time and lack of garage space to keep both.
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Yeah the air cooled purists / snobs are the most annoying. Don't get my wrong I absolutely adore the 993 and 964 but those cars are now so expensive that normal car enthusiasts can no longer afford them. You get an amazing value for your money with 996 and 997. And they're MUCH faster than any air cooled. 992 is the only 911 that I don't really like. The rear is very weird and has gone too far from the original 911. Great video, cheers.
Sorry for the late reply (catching up on comments). I completely agree with you and glad you enjoyed the video.
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I have owned 5 Porsches over the years. Boxsters, a 944, 911's. They are ALL Porsches. I'm in the PCA. I've never been around anyone in the club who didn't appreciate any of the various models. So if you've heard people snub their noses at a particular model, they're simply idiots. I'm sure there are some wealthy people who own a Porsche simply as a status symbol who aren't really sports car enthusiasts, but that is the exception.
I probably hear a bit more that some from being on the internet and every now and then someone says something in person. In person is pretty rare though and 99% of Porsche enthusiasts are incredible. The fact is they are all great cars and they all should be enjoyed as such.
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Proud owner of a 2000 996.1 Tiptronic with 105k on it.Bought 13 years ago and has the original IMS to my knowledge. Great cars and about the same maintenance costs as my older Lexus.Don't fret,drive and enjoy!
That sounds like a fun awesome drive. Enjoy it as often as you can.
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I own 997.1 4s cab., 964 C2 tip. and 3.2 Targa now. More than 15 years ago I became the president of national PC (Slovenia). My Porsche at that time was 986 1999 and there were a lots of GT3s or turbos around. Bad conduct that you describe at the beginning was expelled also as legendary Porsche owners entered the club immediately after then (racers, engineers, mechanics...) who set the standards corresponding the enthusiasm that makes a good PC. In recent years there some buzz appeared by younger guys getting their GTs turbos and other fancy Porsches too easy. So a year ago we produced a code of conduct. Among other it is reminding them that the most expensive car in the club - a 1964 356 alu cabrio, is the unique in the world, so they so or so cannot buy a more expensive one and so they should relax and enjoy the company of finest people I know.
Good for you in keeping everyone from putting anyone down and just enjoying so many great cars.
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Former Porsche owner here. The only problem I had with mine was that I needed to hire a phalanx of security guards to keep the legions of hot chicks from throwing themselves at me as I drove down the street. This was for their safety, wouldn't want hotties to get injured, of course. Strange thing, I drive a used Toyota Camry now and it's still happening. Must be my nearly insane level of handsomeness.
Sounds like you need window tinting on all windows. Most places limo tinting is only allowed on the rear windows, but I’m sure you can get an exception once folks look at you.
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You’re right about people thinking you’re rich. I’m not rich, I’m just irresponsible. 😂
A perfectly said appraisal of Porsche ownership! Especially for those of us driving non-911 Pcars! Fortunately time is proving the naysayers wrong. Porsche has always delivered gifts to the drivers of the world and anyone saying otherwise might need to re-evaluate their purpose 😊
Well said. Porsche makes some great cars in various ways even if they aren’t a 911.
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If people have friends/people in their lives or live in an area full of people who look down on even a perception (accurate or not) of success, you need different people in your life, and to live somewhere else. The envious hatred of positive values is the most toxic vibe to be around. Run don't walk from anyone or anyplace swimming in that toxic emotional stew. Which admittedly is getting harder and harder to do as our culture sinks into normalizing such a perspective, but no matter. There are always people and places that admire success and are happy for others when they see it.
I love porsche
But i have recently learned about cylinder bore scoring on S models only and that is the only thing holding me back from purchasing one because I am only interested in S models
I drove a Porsche Cayman S
it felt under powered that is why i am not interested in a non S because of smaller engine and i am afraid to take anyones word on the scoring issue
I wish i could be sure
Bore Scoring can be an issue, especially on larger displacements models. Depending on if you are looking for new or used, you could look at an early 996. They have just under 300 horsepower and a low curb weight and don’t tend to have the bore scoring issue and the 1999 and many 2000 models have the dual row IMS Bearing with an extremely low rate of failure (and there are after market upgrades to addeess the IMS Bearing issue if you are nervous). The interior is a bit on the plastic side, but if you just want a fairly dependable model with a decent amount of power, it may be worth test driving one.
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I am mechanically inclined and can work on any engine
I may have to look in to each cylinder with a bore scope to be sure and ims bearing doesn't bother me because I will fix that issue the very first week of ownership
I have a 07 C6Z06 corvette with 505 hp that will satisfy my power needs
I just would like add a Cayman or a 911 Porsche to my collection
A 911 with a broken headlight appeals to me
I just have to convince the seller to let me pull the plugs so i can see
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@@naturallyaspirated7829 if you have a bore scope and can pull the plugs that will give you a good idea.
Good luck on adding a Cayman or 911 to your garage and enjoy all that Z06 power everytime you get a chance.
For thrills I ride motorcycles - as fast and way cheaper than Porsches. For miles I drive Toyota/Lexus - uncompromising reliability and cheap maintenance.
I wanted a motorcycle and when I tried to talk my wife into it I hit a large rock on a dirt bike and flew off the bike. My wife was there and said I couldn’t get a motorcycle. So, I got a Porsche instead.
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@@OurRideLife I've been riding m/cs for almost 60 years, but the only time I ended up in the ER with a concussion was riding a bicycle. Never can tell.
@@67daltonknox Yes you never can tell.
It's like any car maker with heritage and some expensive models. People make it into a status symbol. You could spend 150k on a 911, and then someone could come out and stomp your ass around a track in a Caymann S because they actually drive that thing.
Very true. A really good driver can drive a much slower car and win easily. Buying a more expensive car doesn’t make you a better driver.
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At least the Boxster driver won't kill himself going around a corner like the 911 driver will. Since on the Boxster the engine is in the correct spot and does spin out the back end like a giant pendulum. I have experienced this personally.
That is especially true the further back you go or if you turn off the technological wizardry. Of course I did manage to spin a Boxster when I hit a puddle on a freeway on-ramp, but managed to have no damage to the car.
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The 964 911 is probably one of my favorite porsche
They are certainly beautiful cars.
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Drive whatever car makes you happy. My 911 4S makes ME happy. I could care less what anyone else thinks or says about my car choice. A Porsche is a Porsche! If you have one, any model, be happy you are driving one of THE BEST engineered cars on the road. As for the "i" cars, they are all about flash & cash. Porsche is prestigious without the need to "shout" about it.
I completely agree.
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I know lots of 911 owners who also own a Boxster. It's different animal... and better 50/50 balance. Any hate among Porsche owners, from 917 to 918 is just stupid. One family of people who love cars.
Very true. The Boxster handling is completely different and feels more natural to most. The 911 is an incredible car, but Porsche engineers have had to take many years to make the handling more neutral versus the Boxster and Cayman that have the inherent advantage. Porsche makes a lot of good cars and we should just enjoy each for what it is.
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I got 3 porsches, 2 or 3rd owner, complete paper book and history. Always respected the car and the warning process. And still, it was not at all a reliable ownership. They are reliable but require a lot of maintenance and care.
Good point on them being reliable, just make sure to keep them maintained or it will tend to cost a lot more (although they aren’t always cheap to maintain depending on what you can do yourself).
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The main thing about Porsche is reliability. If it's a recent model base 911 or a 20 year old base 911, maintenance is a huge thing. Usually people who own high performance cars buy Porsche as their weekend car or lease it. The Macan, Tayman, and Panamera was built to be daily drivers, but all Porsche models have high maintenance. Issues like a oil change even replacing a tire is an expense. You drive a new Toyota Camry and need a oil change and replace damaged tire, $70 for oil change, $140 for tire replacement. If the same issues happen on a 911, you're pay 3x-5x for the same issues.
Fair point if you don’t do your own maintenance. Tires will always be expensive, but if you change your oil yourself it will cost about $70 or so about the same as having a dealer change the oil in a Camry. Of course if you don’t do it yourself expect to pay quite a bit more.
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Love my 2006 boxster S, since 2019. Can't imagine, winter snow tires, storage winter time!? Especially when cruising around, topdown in paradise! Aloha from Hawaii !! Best weather on planet!
Hey no better place to enjoy the wind in the hair. Enjoy life in paradise.
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@@OurRideLife just had a hurricane Dan pass south of isles, last week. Covered ,cleared, protected boxster and was a little paranoid, but alls good, no damage or anything else. Got till November, hurricane season ends! Aloha!
@@MK-su6eg ah I feel you on that now that I live in Florida. Glad nothing was damaged for you.
@@OurRideLife I can handle the heat, but the humidity is wicked. topdown with the tradewinds blowing , cruising to the beach, is the only relief! Views are so beautiful, it's a hazard. Keeping eyes on the road is dangerously hard! (bikinis) Aloha
I've owned 6 Porsche 911s. Starting with a 1996 911 Cabriolet and my last was a 2013 911S Cabriolet. And I ALWAYS bought a CPO Porsche! They come with an extra 2 years of warranty when the original warranty expires. I typically would get rid of my Porsche very close to the end of the CPO warranty. Anyway, owning 6 CPO Porsches I only had to use the CPO warranty 2 times. I guess I got lucky? Porsche's are great cars and they are very well built. I'd own another one except I now live on a 105 acre ranch where I don't need a Porsche. :( lol I need a truck!
Awesome history and agree that you need a truck with that ranch, unless you build a race track around the perimeter.
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Never owned a porsche but seriously thinking about getting a 2016 forest green 911 targa 4 with 40k on the odometer. Overall good car? Do you think if I get it I’ll wish I got something different? Havent had it checked out yet, but based off the ad, appears to look brand new. Middle aged guy here not looking for attention… yes its very pretty, but to me it looks like your typical porsche 911. Any thoughts, advice or even negative opinions about the car would be greatly appreciated; Im starting to get tunnel vision about it and thats not a good thing financially, lol
They are nice cars and I personally like the Targa look. Things to watch out for with it is that the automatic top mechanism works correctly and smoothly. Make sure to drive it and ensure that it drives how you like. They have plenty of power for the street, but are a bit more of a GT car compared to an older 911 or a Cayman.
If you decide you want to go for it make sure to get a pre-purchase inspection. If you aren’t sure of good shops for this in your area you can reach out to the local Porsche Club of America chapter for recommendations. I would recommend that you find your own shop and not use a shop that a seller is recommending. With any used cars expect for some things to be found, but also be prepared to walk away from the car if the report finds anything that keeps you worried.
Hope that helps and if you do purchase it that it ends up being a dependable fun car for you.
I love how you are explaining possibly getting at ticket in a "fast" car, then at 1:20, the car getting a ticket is a Ford Pinto!
You never know, maybe that had been swapped with a V8 before it eventually caught on fire.
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I have enjoyed 14 Porsches over 36 years. All the models except the SUVs. I don’t care what others think including some who look down on owners of certain models. I often get compliments and many pleasant sharing of Porsche stories. 3:31
The sharing of Porsche stories is the largest part of the fun in my opinion.
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This can apply to most car companies... Ferrari Lambo Corvette etc are some examples.
Fair point. Some may be a bit better than others, but in general that is the case.
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Agree on the snobbery, you have to just ignore it. I have a Boxster, its my 2nd one and I love them.
Ferdinand Porsche first created the 356 which was also a roadster 😂.
Good points. I’m a fan of the Boxster having owned one for over six years. In that time it was fun and dependable.
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I drive Jaguar XKR, there are some asshole Jaguar owners who are just jealous. Just ignore those stupid people. Nice car bro!
@@ejsgarage agreed and thanks. Enjoy your Jaguar as often as you can.
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Ferdinand Porsche was partly responsible for Germany losing ww2 - why? his tanks such as Tiger Tank were extremely complicated and expensive like modern Porsche vehicles and when they broke down which was often it took more men away from the battles and more time to repair them unlike the Russian T34 and USA Sherman is a fact
Whats your opinion on swapping the engine with an LS ? I like the idea for the 944 or the 928 because those are cheap. Not into the 911 with them.
I’m good with them and they seem to fit the character of the 944 or 928. On the 911 the sound’s doesn’t quite go with the car, although if someone put the new Z06 engine in a 911 that may sounds more like it belongs in a 911.
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Your voice is too loud at the start of every sentence.
Thanks for letting me know. I’ll be working on fixing that over the next few videos.
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I believe the production of the Boxter started it all. The animosity is just brutal.
You are probably right at least to the level it can be. The fact that quite a few folks couldn’t tell the Boxster and the 911 apart probably started it. Of course the Boxster is quite a good and fun car, so it is not deserved.
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When unbolting Porsche valve covers Make sure you wear ski gloves, and very slowly back to bolts out manually.
That is what it says in the service manual.
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i have a 911 turbo and a boxster S...and i have to admit, that, except the power and acceleration, the boxster is the better car. put the 911turbo engine in a cayman and it would be amazing..
I love my 07 987. I've driven a 911 and it was a nice car, but I didn't need all the flash. I have older cars that get a lot of attention when I'm out, and as much as I sometimes like the attention, at times I just want to be more anonymous, and my 987 gets me very close. It's classy without being overly flashy and it doesn't push me into the 911 area of snobbery. I've been told that when I become wealthy enough, I'll buy a 911, and I replied, I hope I never reach that level. At that point I'll have lost what makes people like me and I'll be a snob just like the rest of the 911 people I can't stand. Sorry, I was in another car community and sold that car and was very relieved when I did.
When I'm occasionally asked about my car and the real cost of ownership. I tell them that the parts are more expensive, but are comparable to the cost of any nicer aftermarket parts price for other cars, except these are just Porsche parts, not some expensive after market ones because they don't need to be. The only nasty thing is going to a Porsche dealer which feels like extortion. I told him to take the car to a good independent shop, or do the repairs yourself, they're surprisingly not so difficult. When I tell people this, they're amased that I don't act like a snob. I tell them, it's just a car. A well built one, but still, just a car.
Yes all Porsches are well built nice cars, but they are still just a car. It is funny because I let people borrow my car and they often are nervous to drive it. I always tell them it is just a car, just don’t get hurt yourself.
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