What to Look for When Buying a Porsche CAYMAN! - Everything you need to Know about Porsche Caymans!

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025

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  • @svang1991
    @svang1991 6 месяцев назад +15

    987.2 started in 2009. Base 2.9L had port injection, no risk of bore scoring, shorter 1st and 2nd gears compared to S model, same brakes as S model except not painted red. 987.2 Cayman S has the 3.4L that is direct injection, very reliable but some have expressed concern for possible bore score and carbon build up.

  • @taylordoingstuff
    @taylordoingstuff 7 месяцев назад +32

    987.1 - I think bigger issue is potential bore scoring. That seems to be a bigger risk than IMS.

    • @TexasRiverRat31254
      @TexasRiverRat31254 7 месяцев назад +5

      Yes, but apparently the base 2.7l doesn't suffer from that problem. The smaller engine gets a 5spd with different gear ratios and it's a lot of fun since you get to use 2nd and 3rd, 4th occasionally. The 987's had water based glue on the headliners and in hot climates were prone to sagging. I love my little 987.1 base, it's great!

    • @taylordoingstuff
      @taylordoingstuff 7 месяцев назад

      @@TexasRiverRat31254agree. From what I hear the .1’s are mostly free of the issue. Sweet car!
      I just drove my first 981 Boxster S manual last week. That flat 6 😍

    • @heelntoe3982
      @heelntoe3982 7 месяцев назад

      ​@TexasRiverRat31254
      That's correct. It's because the material used on the piston skirts of the 2.7 is different than the material used for the 3.4 piston skirts. The material eventually wears off the piston, and bore scoring begins.

  • @gilbertferguson1685
    @gilbertferguson1685 7 месяцев назад +8

    Nice video. I owned a 2009 Cayman and a 2014 Cayman S. Both were excellent, problem free cars. Definitely a good buy today, especially the ones with the 4 cylinder turbo engine.

  • @jonathanhughes5806
    @jonathanhughes5806 7 месяцев назад +27

    Three words that were not mentioned in this 30 minute buyers guide, pre purchase inspection. A pre purchase inspection from a certified Porsche mechanic/dealer will provide all of the details, good or bad, that you need to know about the car you're about to spend your hard earned money on. Before I bought my 981 Cayman S, I took it on a test drive over to the local Porsche dealer for a pre purchase inspection. It helped make my decision to buy the car.

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  7 месяцев назад +5

      Rob realized that after we wrapped - we are actually going to make a video that shows you what a good PPI entails

  • @francistsui4931
    @francistsui4931 5 месяцев назад +9

    I have 4 Cayman S, one Cayman R and one 911 with Aerokit, all in yellow! The latest is the 2024 model and I really like all of them. The Cayman S is US$30K cheaper than the 911 and is just 0.3 seconds slower from 0-60 mph! But the handling of the Cayman S is better because it is mid engine! People said Cayman S is poor man Porsche but at over $100K now, it is definitely not! The Cayman S is my daily car and I am very happy with it! Buy the Cayman S if you want a Porsche for daily use! For daily use in Los Angeles PDK is a must option! 😂

    • @bl8977
      @bl8977 5 месяцев назад

      It's the best 982. Add the PASM and PTV, SC, and 6MT, and it is the most sought after 718 after the GT4RS. The GTS 4.0 is slower and you can't turn it into a supercar with a simple ECU UPGRADE FOR 1100.00

  • @michaelgreatorex2340
    @michaelgreatorex2340 3 месяца назад +2

    Amazingly helpful video. My Cayman 718 is being built as we speak and I’m so glad I opted for manual transmission and the awesome racing yellow paint job! Very interesting what you say about the long gears. This will be my first car so driving in general is going to be quite the adventure in the Cayman I think! 💨

  • @JosephDamico-f7q
    @JosephDamico-f7q 6 месяцев назад +2

    bought 2014 porsche boxster s just puts a smile on my face every time .

  • @davemackie4424
    @davemackie4424 3 месяца назад +1

    The 987.1 Cayman S didn't have the M96 - it had the M97, which is much less susceptible to IMS issues (but as someone said below, bore scoring is a bigger issue of concern), and there are conflicting reports as to whether you can even service the IMS bearing in the M97 engine.. Also, the 987.2 came out in 2009, and it had the M9A1, not the "M1A".

  • @ThatCaymanGuy
    @ThatCaymanGuy 7 месяцев назад +4

    So in the 987.1 was the M97 motor, different IMS more resilient but as someone else mentioned cylinder slap can be an issue on some cars.

  • @mrkoww
    @mrkoww 6 месяцев назад +3

    That yellow 981 has a story of its own according to jack. Awesome cars.

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  6 месяцев назад

      It’s a fun story, for sure!

  • @brianbirkinbine2054
    @brianbirkinbine2054 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love my 2007 Cayman S (987.1) in Guards Red, the boxster engine howl inside the cabin above 4000 rpms is glorious! I don't really worry about IMS, as for bore scoring, look for the PCA 4-part youtube video series on it, has really great tips on how to prevent it (how to warm up the car, oil selection, fuel selection, etc).

  • @fishjasdroid
    @fishjasdroid 5 месяцев назад +9

    Love my 981S with only 40K miles. My first Porsche.

    • @andyhulme6666
      @andyhulme6666 5 месяцев назад +2

      I also have a 981 on 40k. 1st Porsche for me too. Love it.

    • @UFRooster
      @UFRooster 12 дней назад

      @@andyhulme6666how reliable has it been? How often does it eat tires?

  • @williammorris3334
    @williammorris3334 7 месяцев назад +2

    There is no difference in cabin room between 911 and 981/982. The front half of the unit body is the same. I’m 6’ 220 lbs and I find there is plenty of room for me and I’ve gone on 6-7 hour drives. It’s very comfortable albeit the suspension is a bit firm

  • @radiatorgrillestore
    @radiatorgrillestore 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video hitting on the greatest value in the Porsche lineup. Truth at 11:30!! We have solutions for that issue on all of the Cayman/718 vehicles!
    Another issue related to the water based glue with the 981 is the headliner falling as well. Replaced the headliner and the door panels under warranty luckily.

  • @eileenb234
    @eileenb234 5 месяцев назад +1

    With the expensive cost of a PDK failure (987.2 and 981), do not overlook the Tiptronic S. It was still in the Cayenne for MANY years because it is very robust ( does not fail! ) On the track it performs well.

  • @Aiken47
    @Aiken47 26 дней назад

    I’d add mesh grills in front of the radiator intakes and side air intake. Just to protect the radiators and filters.

  • @michaeledwardlenzi
    @michaeledwardlenzi 7 месяцев назад +7

    In the US, 987.2 era starts in 2009 and runs to 2012. .2s have the new Direct Injection engine, and the PDK transmission(and not the old Tiptronic) was an option.

  • @rikichiho940
    @rikichiho940 11 дней назад

    Hey, enjoy your posts.
    I have a 987.1 with the door panel issue. Do u have a referral in So Cal?

  • @williambrandt9254
    @williambrandt9254 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for an informative video! When I got out of the army in 1974, I lusted for a 914-2.0 that was supposedly a VW engine massaged by Porsche
    I think they only made 3000 of the 914-6
    Like the Cayman they deliberately kept the engine under powered so it wouldn't blow off the 911
    I thought on and off of getting a Cayman and when you hear of IMS bearings and scored cylinder walls and $25,000 engine replacement cost kind of makes you gun shy.
    So I guess my search would be limited to a 987.2
    What I'd like to know is what that engine is capable of long-term? I have three old Mercedes - one of which has 230,000 miles and uses virtually no oil.
    My 2000 E430 has 160,000 miles with no problems. Of course maintenance is the key and I've always used synthetic oil and changed it on time.
    And when I look on the net about "high mileage" Caymans they speak of numbers like 120,000.
    So you're getting a 10-year-old car or more which will probably have 80,000 to 100,000 miles
    Anyway thank you for the nice video - it was informative

  • @alphabeta8403
    @alphabeta8403 3 месяца назад +1

    3:55 987
    7:50 981
    11:30 Taking care of the car
    14:20 718
    20:35 High gearing in 6MT

  • @movingpicturesbruce
    @movingpicturesbruce 22 дня назад

    The 987.1 has the M97 engine NOT the M96. (At 6:30) The failure of the M97 IMS bearing is extremely rare. What else did this know it all get wrong? I'm pointing this not to be snarky but because this simple fact is big deal for anyone looking to buy a 987.1.

  • @dp2901
    @dp2901 7 месяцев назад +1

    Same situation with my former used 981S (manual all drivers options). Sold it at a slight gain and got into a new CGTS (also a manual). I’d say that the 981S feels and sounds a lot less refined than the 718 CGTS and that’s a good thing.

  • @paulbigsby1171
    @paulbigsby1171 Месяц назад

    They talked about the 718 GTS and GT4 RS, but nothing about the 4 cyl S model. I own a 2017 CS MT, and I'm going to assume that scheduled oil and service in lieu of proper care and driving is most important. It would've still been good to have that viewpoint.

  • @PDM1967
    @PDM1967 2 месяца назад +1

    I am thinking about buying my first Porsche. Zero interest in track ready, tinkering, rare allocated cars, or features I don’t need. I want an easy to maintain, fun (and easy) to drive sports car. With an automatic. 4.7 0-60 is more than good enough for me. Is the base 718 a good choice?

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  2 месяца назад +1

      Yes - just drive one first

  • @matthewwaldrup149
    @matthewwaldrup149 3 месяца назад

    That’s like the e9x m3… and one of the main issues is rod bearings… and it seems that the lower mileage ones and ones that sit and don’t get
    Driven much have more
    Rod bearing failures. Whereas me who drives it everyday and have 155k miles on factory rod bearings. Never been changed

  • @javokhiryuldashev7469
    @javokhiryuldashev7469 4 дня назад

    What colour is the 718 gts?

  • @markmatteson5921
    @markmatteson5921 10 дней назад

    i agree they need to be driven they are made to be driven to the track raced and then be driven home and they love it its when they sit for lengthy amount of time is when EVERY and ANYTHING can go wrong with them ✌❤

  • @johnpasquali3722
    @johnpasquali3722 6 месяцев назад

    I have a 2015 base Cayman with 36,000 miles. It seems when ever I come to a stop there's a thud coming from the transmission. My Porsche mechanic said it is nothing to worry about it's a Porsche. I had the clutch and transmission serviced for fluid change. Still does it.

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  6 месяцев назад +2

      Look at the trans mount and/or motor mounts.

  • @ikigai47
    @ikigai47 2 месяца назад +2

    It sounds like you guys are in Dallas. I'm Richardson. What Dallas area Porsche specialists would you guys recommend that are honest and reasonable? Thanks

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  2 месяца назад +1

      We are in Dallas. If it’s Air Cooled, I’d go see Mayo Performance. If it is liquid cooled, go see Innovative Autosports.

    • @ikigai47
      @ikigai47 2 месяца назад

      @@husmanbros - Thank you so much!!

  • @postalpancho
    @postalpancho 3 месяца назад +5

    Why do people keep claiming such in such car will be the last ICE? Electric car market has been tanking like crazy, nobody wants them! Battery is still heavy, likely a 4cyl turbo hybrid or plug in hybrid will be the next. Best of both worlds.

    • @Aiken47
      @Aiken47 26 дней назад

      Germany had banned ICE thanks to BS

  • @jdavis3055
    @jdavis3055 5 месяцев назад +1

    Drooping or falling headliners on the 987 and 981 models are frequently reported. That's not an OE wing on the 981. Want to tell us about it?

  • @thatlamborghiniguy5826
    @thatlamborghiniguy5826 7 месяцев назад +4

    Nice video, thank you

  • @davidvasta
    @davidvasta 7 месяцев назад +2

    Had a 2007 987 and loved it. Probably better than the 911 but not as iconic.

  • @frederikebert1985
    @frederikebert1985 7 месяцев назад +6

    I own a high mileage (75000 miles) 981 GTS with the manual and sports suspension. I drive it a lot but I don’t abuse nor track it. It’s been a wonderful car with hardly any issues. Build-quality is fantastic. I am a smaller guy and I agree the cabin is on the cozy side.

    • @heelntoe3982
      @heelntoe3982 7 месяцев назад

      Take it to the track for an HPDE with your local PCA. You won't regret it!

    • @jonathanhughes5806
      @jonathanhughes5806 7 месяцев назад

      I bought my 981 Cayman S with 60k miles and 2.5 years later it now has 95k miles as it's my daily driver. No mechanical issues whatsoever. I've replaced the headliner that was falling down. Unfortunately both interior door panels are coming up at the top where the glue is wearing out. I'm just driving it as is for now.

  • @williammorris3334
    @williammorris3334 7 месяцев назад

    2009 was first year of 9A1 engine in the 987.2, later put in the 981 Boxster/Cayman.
    9A1 has no IMS and has direct injection.
    Fun fact, most of the parts from the 911 are shared with the 986/987/981/982.

    • @flat6croc
      @flat6croc 7 месяцев назад

      9A1 is not direct injection. Or rather, not all 9A1 are direct injection. The 2.9 in the base 987.2 is port injection. The rest are DI.

  • @cinkoteros
    @cinkoteros 5 месяцев назад

    Really great knowledge and experience from the guy!!!

  • @nunyabusiness4188
    @nunyabusiness4188 7 месяцев назад +2

    Why is that GTS dirty?

  • @ohmyggg
    @ohmyggg 7 месяцев назад

    Great vid! Curious - are those wheels on your GTS 4.0 Silver or Satin Platinum?

  • @MatthewXue-xh5qb
    @MatthewXue-xh5qb 3 месяца назад

    I am just starting looking at used Porsche market here, and saw a great condition 2014 Cayman S Automatic with 40.2k miles. it is well maintained but only down side is rebuild title under cosmetic repair. Here is the kicker, I don’t know much about Porsche much becaseu they are too many version and model numbers to look at, it is hard for me to pin point them. After watching video, so I m gusssing 2014 Cayman S is the 718, if I m not mistaken. I want to know what are the main things to look out for before I pull the trigger.

    • @MarkLRandall
      @MarkLRandall Месяц назад

      2014 would be a 981, not 718.

  • @Boatfisherz1
    @Boatfisherz1 2 месяца назад

    987.1 motor has a bigger issue with bore scoring compared to IMS bearing failures. Not that reliable of an engine on the originals. You really should have mentioned that on the .1's. I also think those 981's are about 10k cheaper than what he thinks, in fact there was one in 2023 with similar condition and color for 42k.

  • @josephlim8941
    @josephlim8941 7 месяцев назад +1

    987.1 received the 3rd Gen IMS. It’s a large diameter and located inside the shaft. Do not Touch. The failure rate is probably the same as if you were to replace non OEM IMS in a 986. Bore scoring is prevalient in all 987.1 and .2 S. 2.7l is known to not have bore scoring. 981 PDK failure likely due to lack of maintenance. PDK needs fluid change every 2 years.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 7 месяцев назад

      Pdk is solid, change the oil every 6 years. Same pdk that has been in every porsche over the last 12 years or so.

    • @flat6croc
      @flat6croc 7 месяцев назад

      Bore scoring is not prevalent in the .2 S. This is a myth currently gaining traction, but a myth all the same. A small proportion of 9A1 engines have suffered from seizing related to different expansion rates as a consequence of the engine being pushed too hard from cold. It's not the same thing as scoring in the M96/7 engine. Also, PDK does not need fluid changes every two years. There are thousands upon thousands of PDK cars that have never had their fluid changed and work fine.

    • @josephlim8941
      @josephlim8941 7 месяцев назад

      @@Jay-xr3sb PDK fluid (not oil) should be changed every 2 years (not 6).

    • @josephlim8941
      @josephlim8941 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@flat6croc I known several 987.2 that has bore score. Dealer technician confirms, even all the way up to early 981 bore scoring. The reason why you think it’s a myth is 987.2 are rarer than 987.1 and are garage queens for that same reason. Eventually, over time and milage will build up and bore scoring happens.

    • @flat6croc
      @flat6croc 7 месяцев назад

      @@josephlim8941 Nope, it's a myth. Go back to those technicians and ask if the cylinder damage is both sides or just the thrust side. It'll be both sides, which is seizing, rather than just the thrust side, which is scoring. Moreover, it's now 16 years since the first 9A1 cars came out (the first 997.2 were mid 2008) and 13 years since the first 991.1 cars came out, all with pretty much the same 9A1 engine as the 987.2 engine. The 991.1 and 981 sold in big numbers, but the combined examples of 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 9A1 cars with seizing adds up to very, very few cars. With the M97 3.4+ cars, they were failing with scoring at scale within a few years of launch and a decade after launch the failures were everywhere - to be really really clear, at the same point in the 9x7.1's life as we are with the 9x1.1 cars, failure with scoring was already at epidemic levels. So, yes it's true that 9x7.2 cars are relatively rare, but people forget just who long the 9x1.1 cars have been out. So, yes, the whole scoring thing on the 9A1 is a myth based on misunderstanding and the conflation of a completely different seizing issue into "scoring". Long story short, a very small number of 9A1 engines across 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 cars have suffered from differential expansion-related seizing and because of the scoring epidemic in M97 engines, people including some in the trade have jumped to entirely the wrong conclusions and misinformation is being spread at scale, including your post.

  • @lordmaster5522
    @lordmaster5522 7 месяцев назад

    Should have mentioned the original 718 from the late 50s to early 60s where Porsche brought the nameplate back. This was probably the first mid-engine Porsche before the 914/916.

  • @powong5091
    @powong5091 7 месяцев назад

    Great video ! Can experienced Porsche lovers also state the common errors/ cost to main the cayman ? For the new comers

  • @nogoodbadass
    @nogoodbadass 6 дней назад

    kinda upset they didn't talk about the base 4 cylinder 718

  • @RahmMenon
    @RahmMenon 11 дней назад

    Decent review...but I am more concerned about the height difference comparison. Rob definitely looks taller :)

  • @bl8977
    @bl8977 5 месяцев назад +2

    The 718 Cayman S is quicker than the GTS 4.0. Instant torque and the power is amazing. The "Subaru" claim is sourgrapes from the flat 6 crew that are upset the 911 turbo F4 is whoopin em. 🤣

  • @edventures9884
    @edventures9884 7 месяцев назад +2

    I love the 987’s in yellow!! And the 987.2’s are so pricy here in CA. I saw one posted the other day for $40kUSD, mint condition. Not sure if that price is normal but can’t seem to find many .2’s for sale. I’d love a 987 but at those prices I’d probably go for a 981

  • @johnreavis636
    @johnreavis636 5 месяцев назад

    987.2 was first introduced in 2009

  • @jonfrench7133
    @jonfrench7133 7 месяцев назад

    914 also sold in the Uk at least as a Porsche

  • @johnob1824
    @johnob1824 6 месяцев назад +2

    987.1 2.7 never had the ims and bore score issues, only the 3.2s and 987.2, resesion came so not many were sold.

  • @ronsim76
    @ronsim76 3 месяца назад

    The 914 was not sold as Volkswagen in europe.

  • @jvelez5381
    @jvelez5381 4 месяца назад

    This card did not say Porsche

  • @Rick-y7r
    @Rick-y7r Месяц назад

    Buy the base model 718. Could have made this video 60 seconds

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  Месяц назад

      They aren’t gonna pay us for 60 second videos. Thanks for watching!

    • @Rick-y7r
      @Rick-y7r Месяц назад

      @ it’s based on numbers of views. You telling us that if a million people viewed this content for 60 seconds you wouldn’t be remunerated?

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  Месяц назад

      Yt wants videos of a certain length.

    • @Rick-y7r
      @Rick-y7r Месяц назад

      @ I see

  • @digibyteorjustnibble9486
    @digibyteorjustnibble9486 8 дней назад

    I don't know what tape measure you use, but you're a foot shorter than the other guy.

  • @ElCid_86
    @ElCid_86 7 месяцев назад

    Contact Pedro’s garage for the door card repair!

  • @Muzingx
    @Muzingx 7 месяцев назад +1

    Swear if someone buys the cayman I’m saving up for ima tweak out bruh

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  7 месяцев назад

      Get it while it’s hot!!
      -AA

  • @flat6croc
    @flat6croc 7 месяцев назад +2

    If you're going to do a video like this, surely you need to be well informed? All 987.1 Caymans have the final big IMS bearing which hardly ever fails. Meanwhile, scoring on the 987.1 3.4 is a much bigger risk than IMSB failure ever was on any M96 engine.

  • @john2k24
    @john2k24 6 месяцев назад

    Nobody wants the electric junk in the Cayman or the Boxster. So sit back, watch their sales plummet, and watch them revert back to a gas motor. Btw the 2025 cayman confirmed gas, but now that’s supposed to be the LAST year.

  • @sleep6709
    @sleep6709 9 дней назад

    rob is wrong

  • @andrewstever5728
    @andrewstever5728 4 месяца назад

    Sorry but you're not taller

  • @seang3538
    @seang3538 5 месяцев назад +1

    So basically anyone who has a 4 cylinder 718 are not real Porsche owners. Gotcha. The Porsche snobbery is rampant in this video!

    • @husmanbros
      @husmanbros  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. Don’t buy anything 4 cylinder when there is another option. You will regret it.

    • @aaronschen9896
      @aaronschen9896 5 месяцев назад +2

      4 cylinder 718 will leave a 981 for dead, and if it's about enjoyment not speed the car should have 3 pedals anyways.

  • @Kieran0
    @Kieran0 Месяц назад

    2 minutes in "sold as a VW in Europe and a Porsche in the US".
    Whelp these guys have no idea what they're talking about - don't waste your time.

  • @slydermartin6008
    @slydermartin6008 7 месяцев назад +4

    Porche is Losing their bet on Electric Taycan. The secondary market is in the dumpster. If they change other models to EV.......Good Luck!