Loved the video. I'm a guy who likes his bluegrass lawn, too. Recommend using Tenacity full strength, putting down a second application 2 weeks later, and the raking topsoil and seed over the bare areas. I do this both spring and fall. The goal is to kill the weeds. It's very visible when you start, but there is much less to kill aftervthe first year.
👍🏻Good video on the expectations with Tenacity. I panicked when I first used it. Thought I did something wrong. I actually must of applied to much by overlapping too much and bleached out some good grass. It all worked out in the end though.
Hey SuperTA. I did the same the first time I used it. It is a great product though. The ugliness is hanging around longer than usual. There has been hardly any rain. I turned my sprinklers on over the weekend. Hopefully some water will get it moving. It killed off what I wanted it to but now it looks terrible with the bleached out areas.
I just put down my first application ever and I plan to do another application in about two weeks. I’ve never used tenacity before but I am excited to see the results because I have a huge amount of crabgrass taking over. I’m a little late to the game 🫣 . The white bleached grass that you had, did it die or did it just turn green and keep growing? Also is tenacity totally safe?
Use tenacity for the first time last weekend. Hoping to kill the creeping bentgrass, i have throughout my lawn. It was my first application, its been 4 days since applying, i was hoping to see a bigger reaction in the lawn, maybe after the second application I will notice. I ended up using the full application for my yard.
It will definitely kill off the bentgrass. 4 days is not very long to start seeing results. Give it time. It will kick in if you went full rate with it. I wouldn’t put down more for at least a month and that’s if you will even need to. Patients is needed with tenacity. Good luck to you.
Scott's starter fertilizer and weed preventer did the same thing to me a few weeks ago. I'll see how much I can cut out when I cut the lawn tomorrow. It freaked me out when I saw it. We have a slight decline in the back yard and it really did a number at the bottom of the yard!!! But anyway your lawn looks GREAT Pat...
Excellent video. There almost no video what to do after Tenacity effect. Just wandering if we can use green dye for grass if it will help with Tenacity bleach?
Thanks for watching! I don’t see why you couldn’t use a green lawn dye to hide the effects of tenacity. The problem may be though that the dye color may not match the shade of green that the grass is.
But Pat if it’s sparse it shows me you used the right amount, it’s just where you probably sprayed a bit too much. Love my duramax s, but beautiful truck.
It did only kill off the weeds. I’m real careful with weed killer no matter what product it is. I always use half rates and hit it twice usually a week apart when using weed killer. I learned my lesson with that stuff years ago. You can do a lot of damage with it if you over apply for sure. I love that truck. It rides like a luxury car and it is good looking. Gas is killing me though right now with it. It drinks it. Lol
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 yeah I’m in Calgary, I drive the wife’s car now because of the price of gas around $8 a gallon here, damn leaders. Especially ours.
I just used Tenacity and im in a complete panic! My lawn was so damn nice dark and green...now its blonder than Marylin Monroe 😢 I think its been 3 weeks and doesnt seem to be improving idk if i killed it 😅
I would be panicking too. 😂 I think it will be okay. I would water the heck out of it and maybe even over fertilize it. I have done the same thing and thought why did I do that. 😂 I hope it works out for you. Good Luck
Long term affect is what its all about. Tenacity not only kills weeds but the spores and seeds they spread. Kills it and it won't come back. so next year you will have less maybe no weeds. the stuff is amazing even if it looks bad for a few weeks after using it. Long term its the way to go! BTW nice lawn but get an edger your almost there ;))
Great video! Just put down my first app of tenacity this week. I’ve never used tenacity before but heard good things! I feel like 30%-40% of my lawn is crab grass 😬 It’s taken over and it’s Mid July. I plan to do another application in a few weeks. A few questions: I wonder with that much Crab grass dying will I need to reseed and how soon can I put the seed down after putting down the second app of tenacity? Also when is the proper time of year to use tenacity to set my self up for a good summer? What months and do you always do 2 applications. I have approximately 20k sq. Ft. Of lawn. Not quite 3/4 acre.
Sounds like a huge crab grass problem. When I use tenacity I always go with half the rate when applying. I have done this with every kind of weed killer and preventer. You can do a lot of damage to the grass with weed killer so it pays to go half rate with it and then reapply after 2 weeks. Since you have such a big problem I would hit it again two more times about 3 weeks in between. I would definitely reseed but not until fall. I would reseed at the end of September. I use tenacity as a pre emergent in the spring usually the first week of April applying it at half rate and doing the second application two weeks later. That should solve your problem with all that crab grass you have. You may even want to do a third application at half rate in the middle of May. I NEVER use a weed killer during the summer hot months. You will definitely kill off some good grass by doing that when it’s hot out. Since you have so much of it I don’t see a problem doing it but definitely throw some seed down in the fall. Good Luck!
I appreciate those timestamps you posted. I literally marked my calendar. I will do all of those applications at half rate and next year as well. I just learned about tenacity a week ago and I ordered it right away. I did do a full application on the lawn already or 1 teaspoon per 2 gallons But I will make my next ones at half rate every time as you recommended. I did reseed this spring but I will plan to do it at the end of September. I don’t know what kind my grass is. Do you recommend a certain seed from big box stores or Amazon?
@@mikestix88 choosing a grass type depends on how much work and time you want to put into your lawn. Although any grass type is going to require some maintenance work during each season some are more and some are less. I’m thinking your most likely in a cool season area. For the least amount of work I would go with tall fescue. It’s not a soft grass in my opinion because the blades are wide but it’s hardy and it’s quick to recover after lack of water or rain if it goes dormant during dry spells. Perennial Rye would be second. It has a thinner blade and softer to walk on. It also recovers quickly after lack of water and it is super easy to grow from seed. Kentucky Blue Grass which is what I have is tricky to grow from seed and during the hot months it needs a lot of water to prevent it from going dormant and if it does go dormant it takes awhile to come out of it after lack of water. You should do some research on the different cool season grasses and then decide for yourself which one is best for your situation. Once you get a thick lawn established that in its self will choke out a lot of weeds. I hope that helps. Best of luck with whatever type you use. If you plan on buying seed from say Home Depot I would use Scott’s grass seed.
Do you pull or rake dead weeds out? Or does mowing take care of the dead weeds after a month or so. Also, can I overseed around my 2nd application for post emergent use in fall . Then do again in spring?
The dead weeds will just disappear into the turf after dying off. You could pull them if you want to but it’s not needed. You can seed using tenacity as long as your grass type is one that says on the label that it’s safe to seed when applying
I know it’s okay to use on perennial rye grass. I don’t know about dwarf rye grass. I don’t see dwarf rye grass listed on the label. I just planted a new lawn last fall for my son on bare soil and did not use tenacity before seeding. I did use a granular starter fertilizer with weed control and that worked fine. I figured once the grass gets established I will deal with any weeds after.
Well, hmm. It seems it is doing its job. Just takes the time that it says it will. In the meantime, yes…it looks bad, but seems to me that’s the cost of getting rid of the weeds. I just used it on 10,000 sq feet a week ago. I did it by the book, not half, not quarter. As I want all the weeds gone. Will see.
I don’t know why people use tenacity on active grass… I don’t use but if I did I would only use it on cool season grass or ONLY in a dormant warm season grass especially won’t use it on active bermuda
I have turf type tall fescue and it seems to have turned a good amount of my lawn white, will this eventually go away or did I kill my grass too? I used 1 tsp per 2 gallons of water as per the directions.
I have KBG and experienced the same thing in some areas. My KBG was fine. At the time I thought that what I thought was grass may have been a grassy type of weed. You should know in a couple of weeks what the outcome will be. It kills off weeds slowly I can tell you that. Hopefully you will be okay.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 I hope so too...I'm finally getting the lawn looking good and don't want to ruin it now. While I do know that spring seeding isn't ideal, I did buy a bag of Turf Type Tall Fescue and may put down some seed in the morning just so that if it is a grassy type weed that I can fill in the areas a bit and then overseed in the fall. I'm a bit worried only because it's the first time this has happened with the tenasity at the same time I do hope that if it did turn the tall fescue white that it's just something to that variety of grass along with KBG that makes it temporarily turn white. It's frustrating, thats for sure.
@@steviem5279 I don’t think you ruined it. Time will tell though. Using any type of weed killer is always dangerous. When I put down tenacity I usually go half the rate and then do another half rate application about two weeks later. Just my way of using it because it can definitely kill the good grass if too much goes down. Maybe next time you put it down try that. As for spring seeding it should take. I have spring overseeded many times without any issues. Just be sure to water in between any rain you get. I hope it all works out for you
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 thanks for the advice, and next time I will definitely go half the rate with the tenacity...agreed, time will tell if I killed the grass too or not but hopefully not. We had a rainy weekend and I overseeded this morning as we're going to have some off and on showers all day so I figure it will soak some of the seed in and will water during the days that are dry. I had neglected the lawn for a while but over the last three years I got back into lawn care and put down tall fescue seeds over this time and the lawn was starting to really come back. Then I put down the tenacity and it turned some of the tall fescue white and it got me a bit nervous. Hopefully it comes back and after a few mows the green shoots up, if anything maybe the new grass seed will help too. At this point, I may not use weed killer again and just hope any new grass I get from overseeding will over take the weeds.
It does go away with time as the weed slowly dies off and disappears completely. It just takes time. I did just recently put up a video that shows the affected areas I had and and you will see how most are gone and the others are less noticeable.
I have dogs and I use it. I keep them off for a few days. I usually water after applying after 24 hours and then water and let it dry out for a few days before letting the dogs back on it. Read the label is the best advice I can give you other than that and make your own decision on it.
I have been using it in the spring for the past couple of years. While doing so I stopped putting down a crabgrass preventer. I do get some crabgrass here and there similar to what I would get when using a fertilizer with crabgrass preventer. So I know it does work for that as a pre emergent.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 tenacity only has preemergent properties for approximately 21-30 days so you would need to do a couple of apps to make sure you don’t get crabgrass off using it in the spring
Hey George. It was killing me to leave it alone. It showed up everywhere I leveled with top soil last year. At least now I know to try and treat for it ahead of time. Otherwise my lawn looks great.
Hello, I applied Tenacity last week, it's really turning white now, bad crabgrass. Do I need to rake any of this? Or wait and put my 2ed application with alot of seed, I'm a 1st timer and confused, thank you
Hello, I would put a second application down at half the rate two weeks after the first application. You really don’t need to rake the dead crabgrass out unless that is basically all you have, for grass. I would wait a week after the second application before seeding. I know the label for tenacity says it’s safe to seed when applying tenacity but I like to be conservative when it comes to that since seed is so expensive. In the spring treat your lawn with a fertilizer that has a crabgrass preventer. I usually put that down twice in the spring. Once in early April and again in mid May. It will definitely help with preventing a huge outbreak of crabgrass during the summer months. Good luck with your project.
Loved the video. I'm a guy who likes his bluegrass lawn, too. Recommend using Tenacity full strength, putting down a second application 2 weeks later, and the raking topsoil and seed over the bare areas. I do this both spring and fall. The goal is to kill the weeds. It's very visible when you start, but there is much less to kill aftervthe first year.
Buddy after the tenacity spray when we can cut the grass please
👍🏻Good video on the expectations with Tenacity. I panicked when I first used it. Thought I did something wrong. I actually must of applied to much by overlapping too much and bleached out some good grass. It all worked out in the end though.
Hey SuperTA. I did the same the first time I used it. It is a great product though. The ugliness is hanging around longer than usual. There has been hardly any rain. I turned my sprinklers on over the weekend. Hopefully some water will get it moving. It killed off what I wanted it to but now it looks terrible with the bleached out areas.
I just put down my first application ever and I plan to do another application in about two weeks. I’ve never used tenacity before but I am excited to see the results because I have a huge amount of crabgrass taking over. I’m a little late to the game 🫣 . The white bleached grass that you had, did it die or did it just turn green and keep growing? Also is tenacity totally safe?
Use tenacity for the first time last weekend. Hoping to kill the creeping bentgrass, i have throughout my lawn. It was my first application, its been 4 days since applying, i was hoping to see a bigger reaction in the lawn, maybe after the second application I will notice. I ended up using the full application for my yard.
It will definitely kill off the bentgrass. 4 days is not very long to start seeing results. Give it time. It will kick in if you went full rate with it. I wouldn’t put down more for at least a month and that’s if you will even need to. Patients is needed with tenacity. Good luck to you.
Lovely yard 👍 Good job with the video thanks 🙏
The almost bleaching affect really stands out
It does. I’ll be glad when it’s gone. It really takes away the look of an otherwise nice green lawn. At least the weeds will be gone for now.
Scott's starter fertilizer and weed preventer did the same thing to me a few weeks ago. I'll see how much I can cut out when I cut the lawn tomorrow. It freaked me out when I saw it. We have a slight decline in the back yard and it really did a number at the bottom of the yard!!! But anyway your lawn looks GREAT Pat...
Excellent video. There almost no video what to do after Tenacity effect. Just wandering if we can use green dye for grass if it will help with Tenacity bleach?
Thanks for watching! I don’t see why you couldn’t use a green lawn dye to hide the effects of tenacity. The problem may be though that the dye color may not match the shade of green that the grass is.
But Pat if it’s sparse it shows me you used the right amount, it’s just where you probably sprayed a bit too much. Love my duramax s, but beautiful truck.
It did only kill off the weeds. I’m real careful with weed killer no matter what product it is. I always use half rates and hit it twice usually a week apart when using weed killer. I learned my lesson with that stuff years ago. You can do a lot of damage with it if you over apply for sure. I love that truck. It rides like a luxury car and it is good looking. Gas is killing me though right now with it. It drinks it. Lol
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 yeah I’m in Calgary, I drive the wife’s car now because of the price of gas around $8 a gallon here, damn leaders. Especially ours.
I just used Tenacity and im in a complete panic! My lawn was so damn nice dark and green...now its blonder than Marylin Monroe 😢 I think its been 3 weeks and doesnt seem to be improving idk if i killed it 😅
I would be panicking too. 😂 I think it will be okay. I would water the heck out of it and maybe even over fertilize it. I have done the same thing and thought why did I do that. 😂 I hope it works out for you. Good Luck
Long term affect is what its all about. Tenacity not only kills weeds but the spores and seeds they spread. Kills it and it won't come back. so next year you will have less maybe no weeds. the stuff is amazing even if it looks bad for a few weeks after using it. Long term its the way to go! BTW nice lawn but get an edger your almost there ;))
Great video! Just put down my first app of tenacity this week. I’ve never used tenacity before but heard good things! I feel like 30%-40% of my lawn is crab grass 😬 It’s taken over and it’s Mid July. I plan to do another application in a few weeks. A few questions: I wonder with that much Crab grass dying will I need to reseed and how soon can I put the seed down after putting down the second app of tenacity?
Also when is the proper time of year to use tenacity to set my self up for a good summer? What months and do you always do 2 applications. I have approximately 20k sq. Ft. Of lawn. Not quite 3/4 acre.
Sounds like a huge crab grass problem. When I use tenacity I always go with half the rate when applying. I have done this with every kind of weed killer and preventer. You can do a lot of damage to the grass with weed killer so it pays to go half rate with it and then reapply after 2 weeks. Since you have such a big problem I would hit it again two more times about 3 weeks in between. I would definitely reseed but not until fall. I would reseed at the end of September. I use tenacity as a pre emergent in the spring usually the first week of April applying it at half rate and doing the second application two weeks later. That should solve your problem with all that crab grass you have. You may even want to do a third application at half rate in the middle of May. I NEVER use a weed killer during the summer hot months. You will definitely kill off some good grass by doing that when it’s hot out. Since you have so much of it I don’t see a problem doing it but definitely throw some seed down in the fall. Good Luck!
I appreciate those timestamps you posted. I literally marked my calendar. I will do all of those applications at half rate and next year as well. I just learned about tenacity a week ago and I ordered it right away. I did do a full application on the lawn already or 1 teaspoon per 2 gallons But I will make my next ones at half rate every time as you recommended.
I did reseed this spring but I will plan to do it at the end of September. I don’t know what kind my grass is. Do you recommend a certain seed from big box stores or Amazon?
@@mikestix88 choosing a grass type depends on how much work and time you want to put into your lawn. Although any grass type is going to require some maintenance work during each season some are more and some are less. I’m thinking your most likely in a cool season area. For the least amount of work I would go with tall fescue. It’s not a soft grass in my opinion because the blades are wide but it’s hardy and it’s quick to recover after lack of water or rain if it goes dormant during dry spells. Perennial Rye would be second. It has a thinner blade and softer to walk on. It also recovers quickly after lack of water and it is super easy to grow from seed. Kentucky Blue Grass which is what I have is tricky to grow from seed and during the hot months it needs a lot of water to prevent it from going dormant and if it does go dormant it takes awhile to come out of it after lack of water. You should do some research on the different cool season grasses and then decide for yourself which one is best for your situation. Once you get a thick lawn established that in its self will choke out a lot of weeds. I hope that helps. Best of luck with whatever type you use. If you plan on buying seed from say Home Depot I would use Scott’s grass seed.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 I want a plush lawn!
@@mikestix88 lol. Kentucky Blue Grass for the plush lawn.
Do you pull or rake dead weeds out? Or does mowing take care of the dead weeds after a month or so. Also, can I overseed around my 2nd application for post emergent use in fall . Then do again in spring?
The dead weeds will just disappear into the turf after dying off. You could pull them if you want to but it’s not needed. You can seed using tenacity as long as your grass type is one that says on the label that it’s safe to seed when applying
Not sure if you mentioned this, but did you bag your grass clippings after using tenacity?
Yes. I did. I always bag the clippings.
How many weeks did it take for the bleached grass to come back to green lol
It takes about three weeks.
I see some shades in your bluegrass, I thought it wouldn’t grow under shades?
The shade areas are not all day. There is enough hours of sun for the bluegrass. Thanks for watching
Can I seed a new lawn with a dwarf rye grass ( I’m in the uk ) after applying tenacity on bare soil
I know it’s okay to use on perennial rye grass. I don’t know about dwarf rye grass. I don’t see dwarf rye grass listed on the label. I just planted a new lawn last fall for my son on bare soil and did not use tenacity before seeding. I did use a granular starter fertilizer with weed control and that worked fine. I figured once the grass gets established I will deal with any weeds after.
Well, hmm. It seems it is doing its job. Just takes the time that it says it will. In the meantime, yes…it looks bad, but seems to me that’s the cost of getting rid of the weeds. I just used it on 10,000 sq feet a week ago. I did it by the book, not half, not quarter. As I want all the weeds gone. Will see.
It does a great job. It definitely works.
I don’t know why people use tenacity on active grass… I don’t use but if I did I would only use it on cool season grass or ONLY in a dormant warm season grass especially won’t use it on active bermuda
Thanks for the info, it did the same to my crabgrass.
I have turf type tall fescue and it seems to have turned a good amount of my lawn white, will this eventually go away or did I kill my grass too? I used 1 tsp per 2 gallons of water as per the directions.
I have KBG and experienced the same thing in some areas. My KBG was fine. At the time I thought that what I thought was grass may have been a grassy type of weed. You should know in a couple of weeks what the outcome will be. It kills off weeds slowly I can tell you that. Hopefully you will be okay.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 I hope so too...I'm finally getting the lawn looking good and don't want to ruin it now. While I do know that spring seeding isn't ideal, I did buy a bag of Turf Type Tall Fescue and may put down some seed in the morning just so that if it is a grassy type weed that I can fill in the areas a bit and then overseed in the fall. I'm a bit worried only because it's the first time this has happened with the tenasity at the same time I do hope that if it did turn the tall fescue white that it's just something to that variety of grass along with KBG that makes it temporarily turn white. It's frustrating, thats for sure.
@@steviem5279 I don’t think you ruined it. Time will tell though. Using any type of weed killer is always dangerous. When I put down tenacity I usually go half the rate and then do another half rate application about two weeks later. Just my way of using it because it can definitely kill the good grass if too much goes down. Maybe next time you put it down try that. As for spring seeding it should take. I have spring overseeded many times without any issues. Just be sure to water in between any rain you get. I hope it all works out for you
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 thanks for the advice, and next time I will definitely go half the rate with the tenacity...agreed, time will tell if I killed the grass too or not but hopefully not. We had a rainy weekend and I overseeded this morning as we're going to have some off and on showers all day so I figure it will soak some of the seed in and will water during the days that are dry. I had neglected the lawn for a while but over the last three years I got back into lawn care and put down tall fescue seeds over this time and the lawn was starting to really come back. Then I put down the tenacity and it turned some of the tall fescue white and it got me a bit nervous. Hopefully it comes back and after a few mows the green shoots up, if anything maybe the new grass seed will help too. At this point, I may not use weed killer again and just hope any new grass I get from overseeding will over take the weeds.
I wish to see couple of weeks after. If it will go away?
It does go away with time as the weed slowly dies off and disappears completely. It just takes time. I did just recently put up a video that shows the affected areas I had and and you will see how most are gone and the others are less noticeable.
Is tenacity safe to use in yard with dogs?
I have dogs and I use it. I keep them off for a few days. I usually water after applying after 24 hours and then water and let it dry out for a few days before letting the dogs back on it. Read the label is the best advice I can give you other than that and make your own decision on it.
Did you spray the whole yard with Tenacity?
Yes. I spray the whole yard every spring with it.
Ever use it as a preemergent? Vs post?
I have been using it in the spring for the past couple of years. While doing so I stopped putting down a crabgrass preventer. I do get some crabgrass here and there similar to what I would get when using a fertilizer with crabgrass preventer. So I know it does work for that as a pre emergent.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 tenacity only has preemergent properties for approximately 21-30 days so you would need to do a couple of apps to make sure you don’t get crabgrass off using it in the spring
Damn poa… it hit me hard too this year
Hey George. It was killing me to leave it alone. It showed up everywhere I leveled with top soil last year. At least now I know to try and treat for it ahead of time. Otherwise my lawn looks great.
Is tenacity safe for Bermuda grass?
I don’t think that it is. You should do your own research on it for Bermuda grass. I have a Kentucky Blue Grass lawn and it is safe for that.
It took my lawn 6 weeks to recover from whiteness or grass yellowing.
Yes it does take some time for it to recover.
Hello, I applied Tenacity last week, it's really turning white now, bad crabgrass. Do I need to rake any of this? Or wait and put my 2ed application with alot of seed, I'm a 1st timer and confused, thank you
Hello, I would put a second application down at half the rate two weeks after the first application. You really don’t need to rake the dead crabgrass out unless that is basically all you have, for grass. I would wait a week after the second application before seeding. I know the label for tenacity says it’s safe to seed when applying tenacity but I like to be conservative when it comes to that since seed is so expensive. In the spring treat your lawn with a fertilizer that has a crabgrass preventer. I usually put that down twice in the spring. Once in early April and again in mid May. It will definitely help with preventing a huge outbreak of crabgrass during the summer months. Good luck with your project.
It definitely will mow out and you'll have no weeds.
@@sherrigerhardt1348 yes it does It takes a little while but it does go away. Thanks for watching!
how long until it turned white?
About a week
What did your wife say?
Oh she broke my stones the first time I ever used tenacity. Now when she sees that look she knows what I did.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31 😂😂
thank god for 2X speed in youtube! You talk sooooooo sloooooow!
Just making sure idiots like you are able to comprehend the point of the video.
@@aroundthehousewithpat31😂😂😂😂😂