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Agree with your takes Chris! On stage 20 last year, Pog wanted the win to make up for his terrible day on La Loze, and Jonas didn't take a single pull, he had over 7 minute lead but still marked Pog as if he was 10 sec behind. They got caught by a bunch of other people and Pog had to win the sprint with an amazing leadout from Adam Yates. Nobody gifted Pog last year stage 20 as a consolation because he cracked spectacularly on La Loze and lost the tour by over 7 minutes. And that's fine. Then, Visma didn't hesitate to win the 3 grand tours last year. In La Vuelta they won 5 stages and went 1,2,3 in the GC, no apologies, no gifts, and that's all good. The thing that was not cool was Jonas and Roglic attacking Sepp, their own teammate!!, that's actually bad. Sepp Kuss saved his Vuelta thanks to Mikel Landa who was not even his teammate but pulled him on Angliru. Pog not gifting the stage today was not mean and not even revenge. It is a competition and if he is in the position to win he should try, as long as he is not attacking his teammate!
This is a perfect take! You definitely watch the butterfly 🦋 effect 👊🏼
In the end Jonas could've took the Vuelta from Kuss but didn't and called off the attacking at the end. The only reason Kuss was in red was because of a breakaway the team put him into.
Revenge!,No Mercy!,No prisoners! Bow to the new Cannibal!😂🤪🤣😂😜😛💪💪💪
@@MarkTomeh Kuss can also argue that Jonas would not have won without his efforts. So, your story is one-sided and you also forget that Jonas rode away from the red jersey to close the gap to Roglic. He, like you, has an excuse for everything though. So, no problem.
Great comment....100% agree...lets enjoy todays race....
Tadej: Well crap, they put me in position where I had to accidently win again.
😂
Crybaby Jonas says "the race (for yellow) is over" as a way to get tacit permission to attack Pogacar while Pogacar agrees that his race is over. Idiot.
Tadej is doing it for the LOL's at this point.
People gonna hate when he wins tomorrow too. The bookies all think he will and I hope he does!
But it is true..😂 He did his best NOT to win but some people just wouldn’t stop attacking man…
“No, I told you I’m on vacation right now.” I think this is my new favorite snippet from The Butterfly Effect.
This is a race! And Tadej loves to race his bike. We are fortunate!
Keep on crushing the wins Tadej. No mercy. No charity.
Karma may strike back
@@living4speed680Karma has a name in this ... $$$$
"do not give up the stage"... damn straight, happy to see Tadej go for it
It was nice to see bib number 1, 11 & 111 go together 😂
I loved Tadej refusing to pull with Jonas...you don't pull with me when I want you to pull through, fine, I won't pull through when you want me to pull through. This rivalry is going to entertain us for years if we are lucky...
Jonas being asked about it just after the finish...'everyone has their strategy...i won't judge'. The Irony 🤣🤣
@@joebriggs8422 He has no honest argument against Pogacar.
Well the difference is Jonas was bouncing all over the gravel ... not a well suited stage... if that's what you mean? Truly asking.
@@janefreeman995 it was either Stage 1 or 2 when they had a gap on Remco and he did some BS half-baked pulls.
100%
Right on Chris, agree 100%; all this moaning about Tadi winning to much. What a bunch of wining wusses. Tadi could have an accident tomorrow and never ride again. Professional athletes should always win as much as possible and never apologize for it.
Domination is pretty boring. If I wanted to watch something I already know the ending of I’d watch an old movie.
Like the last 2 years you mean?@JamesBond-st4qu
Unless you're from the future..you dont know the ending@JamesBond-st4qu
I doubt the criticism and dislike directed at a GC rider winning too many stages. On the contrary, when sprinters win as many stages as they can, it's not seen as a problem. It just doesn't make sense.
Don’t remember anyone pulling the double and winning a few one day races last year, but nice try at Whataboutism.
I’m certain Pogacar went to bed thinking today would be a vacation ride through home roads, but Pogacar is someone who gets that itch to race the moment he sits in the saddle. I’m happy the day ended with another battle between the top riders. Pogacar came into the tour with otherworldly form backed by an incredible team, and he should reap all the rewards of his efforts.
To those thinking that Pogacar should have gifted the stage to Jonas, let’s not forget that Jonas and Primoz had no problem putting their own teammate Sepp Kuss to the sword while he was leading the Vuelta. There are no expectations of gifts in professional sport, especially between opposing teams. Besides, I think the fact Pogacar and UAE gave no gifts this tour makes Carapaz’s KOM jersey feel much more satisfying.
Jonas actually said that he hoped Pogi would give him the stage... really 😂 after the last 2 years😂😂
@@LadyBird-n2t Yeah that was kinda weird comment. :d Pitty win?! thats pathetic. I would be so furious if somebody did that too me.
Hey Chris, love the channel bro! Wanna hear something that will trip you out?!!
Back around 1990, you’d ride from Alpine to do a practice crit up off the 15, and I’d ride from SDSU most of the way there and back with you. My name’s Rick, I was prez of SDSU cycling back then.
Followed your racing closely, can’t EVEN tell you how f***ing proud of you I’ve always been!!!💯
Then coming up on your channel a while back while watching TDF coverage….you haven’t changed man, same chill smile as you’ve always had, keep doing what you’re doing!!
If the word "trifecta" isn't furiously flying around email at UAE HQ, then someone's asleep at the wheel. Tadej is in a mood. We may be in for an historic season!!!!
Hopefully the fans voice matter and they start listening to us! Because the vuelta viewership would go way up if Pog participated
@@J-cz7yv I didn't think about viewership! Oh yes, absolutely through the roof.
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f sponsors and race organizers do you hear us? Please hear us!
The olympics only come around every 4 years. That means he has at best 3 chances. If he wins Vuelta people will say, “yeah, but all the others were at the Olympics”
Ain't gonna happen. A couple of days ago, Gianneti explained why.
Tadej got the win for us Chesterfieldians. A great way to cap the mountains
Historical day for POG and TdF! The Cannibal is real and i loved every second of it!
Go New Cannibal!
Only peacock commentators want to see Pogi give away wins. Pogi earned it. 🤪🦚💪🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
He doesn’t like the nickname Cannibal, just saying
It was Christmas for Pogi everybody was working for him Jonas laid the red carpet at the end 🎉
Tejay van Garderen is a serious knucklehead.
Best thing about Tejay is that he has made Brent Bookwalter shine-I'd found him a bit boring in the past.
@@yelapa999 Haha, good point! He makes Brent look like a genius. 😂
I offered to buy his book when it gets massively discounted at 99 cents to use as cheap kindling for our firepit.
@@Mybrother53 😂
TJVG is wrong in his comparison of running out the clock in a basketball game to giving a gift in the tour. The Tour is a multi-stage cumulatively timed event. Basketball is a discreet timed event. The events in the next basketball game will not change the outcome of the previous game. In the TDF, the win is only clinched at the of Stage 21.
Sometimes when you think you have big balls. You find out somebody has bigger balls.
Remember Pantani beating lance by one second or less up alp d’huez ? Lance claimed he gifted it ( bs ) . Pantani was justifiably furious. Gifts have no place between opposing teams. The rare time a lieutenant helps his team leader is good
It was Mont Ventoux, but you are absolutely right on the rest
Did you see the race? Lance did not atack.
Nah dude, Lance gifted him that. Pantani was cooked and I'm a Pantani fan.
Maybe Lance felt guilty about cheating,and let a clean rider win.
Remco gets an A for effort. I mean, his climbing seems much improved. And it looks like he's trying to develop his tactical game. However, W/kg in the hills, especially Tadej (!), has been off the charts. If it weren't for his big balls weighing him down 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Tadej-
Please do the Vuelta
Please do the Vuelta
Please do the Vuelta
Please do the Vuelta!
Please Tadej!
He won't win the Vuelta
@@user-sk3lp4sp5m how can you say that lol. I understand saying “he won’t do the vuelta” but HE WONT WIN? That is insane
How could you not go for the last stage in the Mountains if you are Pogacar. It just made perfect sense do not waste the opportunity I'm glad Pogacar went for it and won as he was the dominant rider this year.
Chris for tomorrow who do you have winning the Time Trial, personally I think this trial suits Pogacar more than Evenepoel so I'm gonna take Pogacar by like 20 or 30 sec🤔
👊🔥🦋🦋
He had to at least mark Jonas and since Jonas went for the win Pogacar was right to deny it to him as a gift.
I rode the stage 21 last week. It is a big climb out of Monaco , more climb than TT , and TPs homes home roads.
Me too. Pogi if he wants to ride hard. Sometimes in the past I remember he took the last tt easy. In 2021. 🤔🦋👊💪
@@ChrisHornerCyclinghe lives in Monaco and knows the road perfectly if he goes full gas Pogi wins easy
No Vuelta as Pogi is going to take the Rainbow Jersey on a course made for him in Zurich!
Opens up the Vuelta to a new face possibly.
I’m asking a lot of the kid I know. But how many times do you win the double with this kind of fitness. 💪😜🦋👊🇪🇸
It will amazing to see Pog in the rainbow bands.
I absolutely worship the rainbow jersey, but I think winning the all three GTs in a year is a bigger achievement. Tadej should go for. He can be WC later, likely, anyway.
Just love the way you say "My man Victor Campenaerts'
It's a wrap. 🚴🚴🚴🇵🇭❤️ Quickstep gave Pogi the win in a silver platter 😅
Pretty much. But I’m glad they tried. 🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Yeah I agree. It was a last stab for Quickstep to put Remco on a favorable situation going into the TT. It was just a twist of fate the approach benefited the real beast of the mountains. Twas a good ploy for them to explore. 🚴🇵🇭🚴❤️🚴By the way, once again your post race analysis is spot on.
The highlight of the day: Grand Mark Soler slaps Jonas’ wrist when he tried to snatch the bidon Soler tried to give to Pog. 😂😂😂
I literally cried laughing. Mark Soler is SAVAGE! 😂😂
Pog probably laughed
That was funny at 5.8k to go.
And than Pogi offered the same bidon to Jonas - class act 🙌
I saw that. What was Jonas thinking?? Delirious or not that was funny.
@@vaibhavsharma2700 Nor was anyone aware of Jonas's intentions.
I love that the final selection was rider number 111, 11, & 1. My odd sense of humor maybe.... But cool!
Ketone stuff might be good, but I'll have what Tadej is drinking! Have enjoyed your shows throughout.
Tadej and his super team have been simply out of this world. Unfortunately for Visma and the other teams, a perfect storm of talent, form, health, and revenge has literally destroyed the ambitions of almost all the teams this year. Tadej is a generational talent, and we are lucky to be witness to this rare bird. I agree, Tadej and UAE should go for the trifecta.
chris i think you should watch the jumbo visma documentary on the vualta last year here on youtube. it cleared up that at first jonas was in favor of supporting thier podium positions butmainly roglic and the jombo visma director said that the plan was to battle it out. Therefore jonas knew that he would rather win the vuelta than let roglic take it. In jonas head he thought that when roglic attacked he needed to follow because he thought roglic was strong enough to both take his and kuss places on the podium.
Chris, I know you said no gift, but did you catch that exchange between Phill and Bob on Peacock? Phill wanted Pog to gift the stage to Jonas. It was a laugh riot, with Phill dramatically proclaiming that Bob would eat his own tongue if that happened. I mean, talk about dedication to the bit!
Regarding the trifecta, I say Pog should absolutely go for it. After all, how often do you get the chance to metaphorically feast on a Danish anchovy's lunch and then tell him to swim in water without salt? It's a golden opportunity! And just imagine the scene: after clinching the Vuelta, Pog casually strolls over with a shaker of salt, gleefully rubbing it into the Viking King's wounds. It's the stuff of legends-epic, salty legends.
Something about eating a hat.....
Haha it was a Stetson hat! Yeah man that was some absolutely senile stuff from Phil. Hopefully his last tour if we’re luck. Bobs too if we are lucky. Wish we could get guys that are more recent members of the peloton and have actual tactical intelligence. Hi Chris!
14:00 "I'm on vacation right now." LMAO 😁😁
Jonas looked pretty good today ! The tour has done a lot to improve his fitness and condition. If he keeps on improving he might get some more big wins this season .
I really appreciated Remco's attacks. He had nothing to loose and something to gain and went for it. His Tour debut was perfect. Congratulations.
I agree. I don't know why people don't give him the credit for it. He used to always have some bad days where he lost a lot of time in previous GC's. He's clearly still behind Tadej and Jonas, but he was able to drop some great other pure climbers. He still has room for improvement
besides, time trial tomorow suits tadej too hahahaha
thanks for everything chris, it's been an amazing tour who wouldnt be the same without your coverage
Thanks 👊🦋
No Jonas.. I told you I'm on vacation now😂😂😂 - LOVE it
Jonas did say that he thought possibly Tadej might give him the stage, but in his heart I'm sure that Jonas didn't want a stage that was given to him. He's too respectful and smart a rider to take that, especially in light of what he said of how Tadej was the strongest rider and deserved the win.
It is great to have three competitive GC riders to push each others levels up. They get along more than well enough which makes it better to watch. Jonas rode to the very edge on many stages. Tadej seemed to have energy left at the end of many stages or maybe that is just winners adrenalin. We are lucky to see him pushed to win and ride nearer to his ultimate level.
The people saying pog has no class for winning too much are the same people who ignore the 2023 vuelta situation…
Exactly. 🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦋👊
And the same people that backed jonas for not pullimg last year… but what goes around comes around and he felt it this year 😉
Definitely go for the Vuelta! Olympics? Why not! That would be amazing!
My thought exactly - Solar contained himself! 😂
Been waiting to hear the 🦋 take on Jorgensen taking the first KOM, the breakaway tactics, and of course the final attack by Pogi. Let's go!
Or Jorgensen taking the last point on the first KOM, at least.
I swear Jorgensen did that just because UAE indicated he should back off and let Carapaz take it,
@@StephenChenneyhe was attacking to go in the breakaway but uae couldn’t let him 😂😂that’s why he took the kom
I think Jorg could have a waited a sec but it was most likely to get away in the break. Bad timing though. 🤔🦋😱
During the Stage 20 post race interview, when he was asked about ‘the little shenanigans for the mountain points earlier on’, Matteo made the below comments.
“Yesterday I felt like I just gave them for free. He didn’t even have to sprint for them. I donno why I did that, he wasn’t really contributing so much. So I just thought today I’m at least gonna make him sprint for it. But I guess he didn’t expect it, because yesterday he had a free ride. It’s just a bit of fun.”
Tadej doing the Vuelta would be so incredible... that HAS to be so tempting to a RACER like him
That would be eppic im a jonas guy but altsow a cykling fan
Still think Vingegaard was covering Roglic - who was riding away - more than attacking Sepp
Can’t wait to see your man working in Visma next year!
Put salt on the wound by taking the podium of the vuelta with Pog, Yates, and Ayuso. 😂
Chris forgot to mention Phil Ligget begging at the end for Pogi to gift the win to his favorite Vingegaard! 😂😂 Luckily Bob put him on his place!
Even though he did not win, Vingegaard showed that he had the big balls today! Let's hope he comes back even stronger next year. Pog for sure will be.
100% agree with you Chris. This might be once in the lifetime opportunity to win all 3 GTs in a single season. Pogacar is in the form of his life and I really hope he goes for Vuelta!
In Jonas’s defense, it seemed like he attacked Sepp in the Vuelta because Primoz was going up the road. In at least one case, I do recall him _eventually_ sitting up and waiting for Sell.
In any case, I agree with your conclusion: Tadej should not be handing out gifts to anybody. No one wants an ill-gotten stage win anyway. _That_ would be disrespectful. Looking forward to the time trial tomorrow. Hoping that Tadej lights it up. 🔥🔥
Thanks, Chris, and I'm thinking we might need that as a weekly show, "And now, here's Chris and his Home Skillets!" 😀
Actually. We were thinking of something like that already. 😂🦋👊
I hope Pogi wins the TT as well! Tadej wasn't even breathing heavy as he came across the line! Like it was a Sunday cruise in the park with the wife & kids. It's good to be the King 🫅🏻 Go Tadej Go!! 👍🏻🚵🏻♂️🇸🇮💯🇨🇵
Didn't expect such an easy tour for Pogadcar, he was so superior, head and shoulders above the rest, what a legend
C'mon Chris! We don't want to hear about Pogačar and Vingegaard, we wanna hear more shit about Bob Roll!!......and I love how you say David Gaudu!!
I think Bob Roll might be the reason Chris isn’t with peacock any more… anyone hear Bobkey drop the F-bomb on air a couple days ago?
@KeithNorris17 Yea, also caught his act with Tejay. He can be very argumentative for some reason.
Chris has a more in-depth analysis of every situation in a race. He gives great details and common-sense explanations. Unlike those commentators, who see themselves as experts and give you biased responses and derogatory remarks. Chris analysis is honest and spot on.
Tadej wins because Tadej can...
Well done Chris!
Poca needs to ride for the Triple at the Vuelta!
AMEN CHRIS!!! Glad you mentioned last years Vuelta I lost so much respect for Rog and Jonas after that after all the work and victories that Sepp helped them get so they can get all those sponsorship and Sepp gets a pat on the back.
Right. That was ridiculous. Now Pogi is the one winning to much. Perhaps the boys for there at peacock forgot already about last years betrayal to Sepp. 🦚🦚👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling How is gifting the Vuelta to Sepp a betrayal? I know, I know! I would have loved a fair fight, let the best man win. Especially since we will probably never see Roglic at top form go head-to-head against Jonas.
@@user-bd9dp6dw6u point is you don’t attack your own team. Jonas and Roglic couldn’t fathom the fact that a lowly serf their teammate is winning a grand tour. Not only that their directors did nothing about it.
love your coverage. i watched the stage live. still had to watch your comments the next day. haha.
How about a sweep? Vuelta, Olympics, and world champ? Seems he's on a roll. Quite greedy but doable!👊🦋
I appreciate Soudal showing some class at the front today. I liked the "wolf pack" days. Are they trying to show Remco something amidst his Red Bull-Bora side girl situation?
Yep. I liked it. Last stage so why not. Nothing to lose. 👊🦋
Some guys saying he is wining too much, what a bs, it's a race, tour de France, not a Saturday ride with your buddies. He is there to win, as much as he can!!!
Big props for the ones that found the perfect images and all the ones that do the editing,Top Notch! You are all producing an amazing product..
The kind of training Pogi has undergone is working - has enough power to overtake everyone casually near the end of mountain stages. Jonas and Visma must have seen this. Next year, we will see much more interesting tour with Remco in the mix, where all balls are on the line! Balls balls balls is the theme for next year tour.
Excellent as usual Chris. Let's never forget, who the true number 1 rider on the butterfly effect is, nope go to lombardy and add to your monument tally!
Pog for the Vuelta?
Why not. I don’t understand why not. This year is the year.
Pogi said there is only a 1% chance of going. So he’s saying there’s a chance. 😜🦋👊
Would be EPIC if Pogi takes his chances at Vuelta!!!!! Please, please, please!
He said 99% he won’t be there.
2024 Vuelta route looks amazing with only 1 flat stage 2 flat ITT rest is hilly/mountain.
@@ChrisHornerCyclingthat’s good enough for me. He’s a ‘make it up on the fly’ guy.
It was a perfect storm for TP. Hats off and a great talent. Maybe it will be a closer show down with the top riders in top form and teams on more equal footing. But it was a great outcome. Love how the jerseys are happening.
Glad to see Peacock guys bumbling all over themselves trying to correct the previous days comments about Pogi winning too much and the heat they got from the Butterfly Effect comments! TJ today saying "it's not nice" for Tadej winning so much. Not nice? That guy was a pro racer?? Great coverage Chris!
Hey Chris, you are right about the Vuelta. What i find most remarkable about those guys is their ability to recover. Pog and Jonas stand out. Have a look at Jonas: 99% of people would have been done for the rest of the year after that crash. And for Pog, I even think that he dominated the TdF not despite but because of the Giro. He never looked fresher at the end of the tour. Maybe you could do a deep dive in the changes of the recovery protocols over the last years.
Every other rider had a look of hard suffering crossing the finish line except Pogi, the Slovenian is super human.
The temptation for the trifecta, an accomplishment that no other cyclist has achieved, will grip Tadej, I think he gives it a go with his form in 2024.
Props to Jonas for a gritty ride on stage 20, I thought Remco would drop Jonas on the last climb to make the TT more interesting.
Thanks Chris
Sure hoping that TP does the Vuelta. When are the teams announced? Trifecta!
The Tade Hat Trick has to be tempting after these dominant victories - Giro and TdF. It would be one for the history books if he and Team UAE could pull it off.
Chris, You're great. I wish someone like you was around when I was racing 40 years ago. B
I know it would be great for Tadje to go for la Vuelta but he has other riders in his team who work hard for him would like a shot. As Chris says though, if the money is right
If they do that they will lose. Rog and Remco can both beat anyone else on UAE
@@user-eq5vy2ui4v whether Tadje goes or not, they will be sending a team,
like they do to every Tour.
To satisfy their riders is important, there are other riders who would like to be leader. They have done it ever year previous to this and every team does the same.
Also, are the afore mentioned both doing La Vuelta? For sure.
Thanks Chris and Garrett.....Papillon rules again !
Pogi needs to attempt the triple.
Well explained, Chris, why you dont give Jonas a victory. Spot on
At this point Tadej might as well go for the Trifecta.
I was impressed with how well Remco did. I think he might have a chance to win a future Tour de France.
Jonas was amazing considering how bad of a crash he had and how little time he had to recover for the Tour.
Hoping next year Tadej and Jonas both come in at 100%. Could be a tour for the ages.
I'd chip in to a crowd fund for Tadje's Vuelta appearance! I found $2.78 in my Chesterfield cushions plus 3 onion rings from a Burger King meal from 2 months ago and 2 previously chewed sticks of Juicey Fruit gum😊
Ving gave The Vuelta as a gift 😝
For his own teammate and loyal domestique, that is something else 😉
He was ordered so 😅
@@Eirikkinserdal of course
Tadej must be having the time of his life, and well deserved. All those that keep insisting in 'making the race as hard as possible', forgetting that they themselves are the ones that die first on the last climb. Gifts and presents are forthcoming AFTER the race, no in it... Tadej, go for Six!
I was worried for Victor for a moment at the beginning until I realised he was on 'sprinter towing' duty.
It's ridiculous that some people are criticizing Pog for not offering the stage to Vingegaard. Offering? This is not the kindergarden!
I don't remember Vingegaard offering any stage to Pog the last 2 seasons. And he did try to win many days.
And for Jonas to even mentioning it shows lack of class, in my opinion. Same for Visma staff mentioning it.
I see what you did there and I like it
Where's the joy in winning a stage that's handed to you? F that. Earn it.
TDF 2024 is potent Pog, yearning Jonas, ranting Remco and remote Rog.
I'm curious, Chris: Why no mention of Visma not just breaking the #1 Rule but totally disregarding it.
While Spanky & his gang are sharing gels and water, Jonas, in second, has won a stage, fighting for his podium place, has Mr Bigballs to keep him company.
Oh, after wasting all that time up front, Tratnik squirts his GC guy as he fades past from wasting energy in a useless brake.
Sorry Jonas, you deserved a team.
Thanks, Spanky, for punishing Team Visma Abysmal for leaving Jonas singing "Only the Lonely"
The man deserved a team.
This one was one more demonstration of Tadej mastery & dominance..
Poj is great to watch. I think he will do the Vuelta, his mentality is, give him a target and he's all in. It's about getting the team around him, who are fresh.
Chris have some humility - just last year after a single day performance by Jonas, you ranked him as your number 1 only to change your mind back again 😜😉
It's like the whole field just worked for Tadej to win the Stage today
Chris I would like to hear your opinion about Pogi and Vuelta this season
Well. Crazy to think if he ever decides to try it later because then he would be starting from zero. Now Pogi is already two for two. But it is asking a lot of him. 😜🦋👊🇪🇸
Several commentators in the USA and Europe were all offended because Tade didn't gave the stage to Jonas. Same thing on stage 19. You should do a beyond the coverage episode going over all these "unwritten rules" of cycling that don't really apply anymore in today's peloton.
So funny to see Jonas asking Tadej for a pull 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he can’t be serious, honestily. Visma didn’t pull even in the Champs Elise sprint last year 😂😂😂😂
Exactly my idea to get Pogi on the Vuelta, It is a historic chance, UAE Team must try it. Almost a duty to try it....
Pog did the most respectful thing as a champion & rival. Charity work & sympathy wins shouldn't offer any consolation to top caliber athletes. Jonas will win stages again, but in top form when it's earned.
The only time the yellow jersey would gift the stage win to another rider would be if the other rider would pull him and that would be necessary for him to secure yellow. But Pogacar had a comfortable lead here, he had no reason to pull and no reason to gift anything. I don't know servo expected otherwise. Jonas himself said he would have done the same.
Baffling: the entire resources of a professional cycling team are engaged to help one rider survive just long enough to win a stage, then limp to a conclusion…and there is disbelief and discussion about a rider reaching and achieving his best, with undoubtedly great form …
I think nbc pulled up on TEJAY ..Last night in response to phil he said he will like to be on the show if nbc brings him back! Then later on it was all kudos and compliments to Tadej liike no one ever heard before! 🤣🤣🤣
Pogi humiliated the whole visma team this year. What a tour by Tadej, crazy!!
I really really really hope Tadej will stay legit and not on some kind off hard to detect apple juice
UAE, Visma LAB and Israel Premier Tech are all using CO2 rebreathers. To either create the new apple juice or mask it. I am not 100% certain how it works. Seem like UAE got dialled in correctly.
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The days of “juicing” are long gone!
We are now at the age of genetic optimization- this is a lot harder to detect and not necessarily illegal because even the modern athletic “dietary supplements” can potentially fall under this umbrella. There will always be doctors and scientists who would love nothing more than to “experiment” on willing athletes doing things that you can never do otherwise in publicly funded research that has to get past multiple ethics reviews. Of course I have no proof of any of this but as someone who used to work in genetics and molecular biology I would be astonished if this was not the case!
Definitely on the apple juice. Even Lance can see it (telling pog to slow down and not make it too obvious) And if he suspects it, you know he’s probably right 😅
@@AJ-zd6gy It certainly takes one to know one.