Hi! I'm an official UFS dev and I can agree for the most part that the game has a lot of missed opportunities, I myself have no real influence on the games ideas and balancing. Though something I'd like to note is that svc game updates are BOUND to fall as they only get traction for like 3 days and then they go off radar for another 2 months. The same happened with ULC, and the same will happen with UFS.
so fun fact, i used to work on the concept team! i quit awhile ago during the era when laziestbones owned it. some of the skins such as: Punkfell (made by ant) and Swaptale (made by Brilage) sans were designed by us. Not only did they give us NO CREDIT, but they were also extremely rude to us. what we made was purely for fun and we received no payment or benefits. which most of us were fine with, Afterall our goal as a concept team was to help the devs by making character concepts and skins to help ease their work load. The way areoc treated me after i left and while i was there was very poor, not only is he extremely homophobic. he has the tendency to use slurs such as the n word and the gay slur against me. This game was killing itself from the inside out for a long while, it was only a matter of time before people started noticing. I hate how the dev team works in ufs, they are lazy and don't appreciate when people do stuff for them. Brilage and ant both deserve their credit for their work and concepts. and before im asked, i didn't like laziest as a owner of the concept server, but at least he was able to care more than the devs did about the game.
i hope this isn't true about areoc, considering he used to work on my game (kobk,) and i am still somewhat in contact with him. that's a BIGGG yikes if so... 😭
Adding my opinion to this cus why not: I feel like UFS VISUALLY is amazing. The models are really high quality, the skins are quite good, and the effects (though sometimes WAY TOO FLASHY) are really good! BUT HOLY HELL WE NEED CHARACTERS Like said in the video some of the skins we got could have been completely separate characters (Possession, Paps.EXE, Time Paradox, Catastrophe Fell, ETC) That and the balancing for the Sans can be really boiled down to: Actually requiring skill and time or haha LMB + 1 go brrrrrr The same goes for the weapons/armors. Some of them have really cool concepts that in practice completely fall flat. Atleast with ULC almost every weapon is viable. Hell STICK in ULC is viable for crying outloud. In UFS i never see anyone use any other weapon then Worn Dagger, Toy Knife, Spear, or Empty Revolver. Same with armors. Everybody uses either Apron, Locket, or Royal Armor. Nobodies gonna see this but i needed to add my lil' ramble here
every weapon SHOULD be viable. wins determining power removes skill from the equation, like ujd the best player could be fighting someone braindead, but if the braindead person is using, say, omnipotant sans, the skillful person will lose. in ufs, some weapons/armors reign supreme. in ulc, stick, the starter weapon, is viable toy knife, 10 win weapon, is GOOD. tough glove is good, requires some skill to use right ect someone using 666 win koffin k with say, determination, would still lose against a very skilled classic user, a 10 wins character. only issue with ulc balancing is low-win sans team characters, which are getting reworked.
And the worst part is that it is supposedly the "ulc killer",and the ufs update vs the sins of the past ain't even comparable,like,ulc had 5 new characters(I'm counting hardmode ulc sans),3 new weapons,a new quest,2 reworked souls,3 buffs and nerfs(Hardtale ,papyrus,horror),AND 200 BUGS FIXED,and yeah the update did cause some more but they fixed it fast,while ufs had one character a gambling system and more skins
tbh the skin system did not exist the skins were just apart of gpasses/events i don't rlly mind. but i do want them to make like more content for gameplay like weapons/characters and probably fixing what's wrong with the game currently
Honestly I think the main reason these issues are so bad is because of how big the pre-release hype train was. If this were a different SvC game that got announced and dropped a few weeks apart it wouldn't be so bad, but we've been waiting literal YEARS for this game and it could never match the hype people had.
I understand where your coming from, but putting all the blame on pre-release hype is just wrong. the way they are handling development and updates for ufs is just unacceptable.
@@theguythatsalwayswrong3965and within those years we where expecting alot of content and not a game full of rng, like even their funeral update the only thing they added back is the April fool's joke which ofc a sol rng game disguised as a Undertale and jjk themed, like they are still trying to milk the game even when it's dead
The hype I had on ufs was immense They were doing fine when they started then they just decided to just show-off they're models instead of gameplay, they said the SvC mode will be different than other SvC but sadly there were no different mechanics.
@@snowy_flakey5404 ulc devs are cool they care abt the fans, their workers. and they have booster now. (I may have convinced him to join ULC) Biggest flex ever tbh
here my opintion on the skin update: 1. there was no fun 2. it was crap 3. there was many unneeded things we didnt ask 4. barely things we asked and i want next update to have more fun included
2:52 well, they probably cant add this interpretation of Papyrus.EXE anymore, cause this version only appears in the AleAltorio fangame, and adding it would get them into another controversy, though the point about missed potential is true, so good point, bad example ig.
@@hannes9773 yeah they did, before the controversy, idk wait they're planning on doing to him, I'm just saying adding another Ale character wouldn't look good for the team, cause of all the other controversies they've been in
@@CharaTRthey bought that to themselves,they threw all that trash words to ulc and ufs,they had merg do multiple vid on em and yet they still focused giving out more rng stuff and skins, like they said "confidence is a slow insidious killer"
@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff That's because they suck at updating correctly. But even if you influence a new character into the game, you can't do much with that character.They said that the experience would not affect the game, but it doesn't, it gets boring after a while.Also that sentence should be "too confident".
it's pretty much confirmed that UFS is doomed. even the devs are calling the next update the 'funeral update'. such a massive disappointment istg. the devs spent 3 years hyping this game up as the next massive roblox UT game and right now it can't even compete with sans multiversal battles 2 (an already cancelled project) 💀. UFS deserves the fate it got imo, quite a few of the primary developers were massive assholes who bigged up a game that wasn't even out, and look where it got them.
nah we gonna get phase 3 last breath, core dust, ss chara remodel, 50m visits, huge balancing, and medium/high wins servers before UFS even makes an update
ULC: nah we gonna get 5 extra dusts nightmare sanses Nega!Tale rework (its actually comming out) better SS!chara oceantale sans reaper sans DUSTDUSTDUST aprilfools 50mil visits better balancing maybe a shop for food in single player area every character gets a remodel Outerfell will exist and some more weapons and weapon reworks UFS: we will add 3 extra skins in 1.5 years :> UJD: ill still be alive and my discord will still be a war zone but i'll add more characters and rework my characters minecraft undertale roblox game (forgot its name) : well add more characters and make the lobby look better ULS: more characters
i can only appreciate 2 parts of this update 1. the existence of punk fell sans that shit peaks 2. inverted fate getting recognition that shit ALSO peaks. the character's cool, but the blindness is not fun, since it's used as a reward for sans and NOT a punishment for chara, when it should be the other way around other than that, it just feels... sad if we got a MASSIVE update after 2 years or smth that'd be awesome but instead we waited a while for a big reveal that turned out to be nothing the game would frankly be better if there was NO update, so we have the illusion that progress is being made now we have confirmation that there's nothing
ngl , ulc will slowly get BETTER . . so not only is ufs already fighting with a disadvantage , but ULC is getting boosted too because of it adding reworks and stuff . ULC removed bone , the "press m1 to win" weapon . They removed something so the game could be fun . ULC cares about community , UFS is trying to sell the same thing over and over . We'll have 20 skins on each character before we get 20 characters in UFS .
@@ChronicCommenterI mean with the current state ufs is on rn he's kinda right, even if they released the update with sudden changes,not alot of people will play it and will start another drama since it needs 3 or 4 bullet items and 450 wins
I feel like UFS is fundamentally inferior to ULC due to ULC's progression system. Progression in UFS is extremely TERRIBLE for chara team, Its boring, slow and annoying considering you are playing on chara team way more than as sans. Even though ULC is much less polised the devs work on it faster and more consistently even if quality and balance changes are often questionable they eventually get things right. Ulc overall is extremely difficult to compete with as its been on roblox for the longest time and manages to keep up with competition and quality of other roblox games.
Yes! This is true, ULC has been around for so long, and it has survived the catastrophe that was Aiden, not to mention it has been consistently putting up progress reports, responding to the community, hearing complaints, AND fixing so many bugs after updates/when they update (200+ bugs fixed, Jesus Christ)
@@STATIC_GAMING1 tbh, having 200+ bugs in first place might be a bad thing... Tho, i guess they do things right in the end. Also, it may be a thing that they just put out unfinished unbalanced stuff, and then polish it after seeing the actual reactions to it
Honestly the game is just missing content, LOTS of content. For example you could get to 500 wins pretty easily and there is near nothing to do. Without the sans upgrades implemented yet, sometimes i feel like there is nearly no point to play sans other than for fun or discovering what that sans does on your 1-400th win. While i did enjoy the skins and maps most of them being charming it just feels dull fighting them or using them. And i do understand making games takes time with most of these devs being in HS so im not surprised that updates take a while. If they just add more gameplay content rather than cosmetics i see myself playing it alot more.
The thing I despise about UFS is the lootboxs. I would have much preferred an option to buy crates with GOLD, but the only option is to spend Robux with the chance of getting the same skin again. I spent 99 Robux and got Outer Sans but with a worse OST. Definitely a rare skin, huh guys?
Not to mention that I had better chances getting a rare skin from a common crate that was actually good, then an actual rare skin crate. (I spent robux on a crate before the round started, and I can’t tell if I got nothing or the skin I got was Pacifist swap Papyrus, who’s just swap papyrus with glasses.)
I had really high hopes for UFS, but now I feel like the developers getting greedy with this gambling update. I’m likely only going back to UFS when a new character comes out/is finished or if you can use GOLD to buy skins.
@@abozonamedblur9020 Nah you just blind, you can buy common crate for gold and for other crates like rare or epic you also need keys that you can get from winning round with idk chance
honestly, if they focused on adding more characters, which as you said, could've been done with a LOT of skins, the game could possibly stay alive for the next update if it doesnt take an insane amount of time to release. Another thing that would help the game stay alive is upgrades. It would keep people playing the game and it would make characters way more interesting. I think it's one of the main reasons why ULC has more active players.
@@QSBraWQit is of they actually listen to their community like the amount of players spamming how op outer sans is insane and the thing they fixed it with? Rework the domain expansion making it more op...
UFS really just dug their own grave. They should honestly kind of do their updates kinda like how ULC does, update both teams at the same time. Cause if you update just the chara team, the sans team will suffer from that update. THEN they decide, "Oh why not just add skins that WILL NOT IN ANY TYPE OF WAY AT. ALL help the sans team!!!11! They honestly had so much time to add so much new content to the game after all months they had been out. They honestly killed themself with the updates. I really hope UMSR doesnt fall down this same path. Cause by the look of it, UMSR is already close to this fate aswell. (Edit, UMSR isnt gonna die, I mean, it's def gonna be a game that'll push against ULC.)
UMSR was a fun game (until they took it down, #bring back UMSR!!!,) and the game play was peak, it was goofy, you could combo, it was good and so were the skins. The characters were also creative bc you had a special ability depending on who you chose. Examples: Susie had a Tp mechanic like in delta rune where if the enemy gets near you, you rapidly gain tp and tp allowed you to use red buster and ultimate healing with ultimate healing as the name applies, heal the enemy team but a little bit but they take extra damage and red buster is like a ray of red pillars that can semi track players and with sans you can teleport the chara team setting them up for the most gnarly combo to exist or impale someone and bring them right towards you allowing you to also combo them, and with jevil? he really is a speed demon with his feats
@@ashtonjr That was a stress test. They were just seeing if it would be close to ready for players. It's gonna come back, they're just working on more stuff, and it's probably gonna be in a beta so you can play it all the time (That's a probably with the beta tho)
4:26 Honestly ULC had the best april fools update, where if you had 4k exp on dust sans and all the singleplayer badges expect hate then you would have the ability to use dustdust who is a strong character yet unique, but overall I think UFS already killed itself by first doing the win lock and then their april fools event, the april fools event is one of the best updates to UFS, not the one with little sans and sukuna and blah blah, no I mean the one before UFS was even released.
Honestly dustdust was not a unique character at all, all of his moves were copied which is a far cry from stuff like super science sans ( Ujd is goated for giving an actually cool character ). I mean it's understandable it's just a joke But don't flaunt that as something ulc did well. Though it was better than playing sol's rng 0.5
@@SansINess53 Spear rain was taken from an admin character, the shadow clone was the first look at Perseverance's rework, and the bone throw I haven't seen but believe it's another admin character move. The devs themselves said that they just took a bunch of random stuff from their other characters because they found a good model for dustdust.
I don't think ufs is unbalanced, it's just that the balance is geared mainly towards REALLY experienced players. Also, that horror oneshot combo you showed was nerfed a while ago Apart from that, I agree with everything you said in the video, hopefully the devs listen and learn from their mistakes.
Fr bro as an really noob player that can’t even hit the sans once (god forgive me for giving more trouble to my teammates)i think the game is not unbalanced its just that its for a really skilled people Sorry about my grammar😂
I think you're forgetting about outer and dust sans, like with the ragdoll effect and huge dmg of outer tale PLUS reworked domain expansion which made it more op while dust sans flame effects are cancer and last forever,sure you can roll but the game never told ya about being able to do that to get rid of the flame effects
Lets also not forget the whole four charas vs one sans which is beyond unfair in games like these, because 99 percent of the time if you don't have a phase 2 your going to lose and even if you do the odds are stacked against you, because theres more of them then there are of you.
I have an idea for UFS characters, they could make the characters weaker but also make low win and mid win servers and then they could add upgrades, like crossbones freakin having a side kick blaster, or pacifist becoming joking aside where he could use blasters or unlock snowdin by defeating dust sans in a different mode to gain him but not make him cancer to beat.
As a ULC fan, I can say that ULC suffers from a few of the issues you listed. For example, the 20 million visits event is a rerun of the 10 million visits event, thus making it so people who already had the ulc sans skin (which I did) cannot look forward to these events. Not to mention updates have slowed down significantly lately.
At least they reworked some of the weapons As if they haven’t done that a bajillion times And they still haven’t reworked disbelief bone….. I want my disbelief bone back :(
Not really, they specifically are rerunning the ULC sans event for retro mode. Which is usable if you have ULC sans thus making the visit events about ULC sans isn't that bad.
SO MANY GAMES suffer from hating their new players. Unless you have a server with all low wins, you need to be technoblade reincarnate to win as pacifist or swap. Having characters that need skill is how you should design games, but making starters either need hours to learn how to play well or just die to high wins will kill your game. This is how UJD was so successful, because of the win servers where things were balanced. Some examples of games that do this (somewhat) well are UT:FJ and UFJ (both stand for undertale final judgement)
I think a reason why there are almost no players (or atleast my reason) is that they were hyping the game up for too long. what i mean is that they kept showing showcases but didnt release the game. So when the game eventually released, most of the people who watched the showcases probably forgot about the game. this might not be true since the game has 6 million visits tho.
"Even ujd has a better April fool's upda-" if there is one... (The game has a loyal community and high player counts even without updates, which is around 78-212 BUT THE DEVS ARE TOO LAZY)
UFS's big problem is just a lack of content combined with shitty priorities when it comes to adding content. They came out with 10 characters, but 3 of which are in dire need of a rework: Classic (he's boring), Science (no explanation needed), and TS!US (Unhealthy gameplay), so that only totals out to 7 characters with no upgrades or anything to encourage players to play more... this caused everyone to unlock the 7 decent characters in the game, play them, and quit because there was nothing else to do, and it doesnt help that even among the 7 "Good" characters in game there are some more boring/bland ones like fell or Swap Sans which create a lack of replay ability because of how tame they are. (swap is debatable, but you get my point) After everybody left the dev team should've focused on giving new worthwhile content into the game that could attract players for a longer amount of time, instead we got... Stat- oh I mean SKILL trees and skins (Why?). Sure there's 2 new characters but they release them unfinished and honestly... Outer was really rough at the start, which just made it even worse. These mediocre updates with no real substance is what I think is killing the game, though its not like there aren't any other issues. The Chara team is overall boring, souls don't do SHIT you literally should chose them based on whats your favorite color, not their in game effects, Armors are (MOSTLY) background buffs that you can't really toy around with, and weapons are (MOSTLY) boring with them having only 1 skill which is always one dimensional. Last thing ima say, which is pretty unrelated to everything else but... anyone else find it stupid that they're adding all this late game weapon/armor shit? It doesn't matter how cool the end game is if no one wants to get through the early game. I can't be the only one thinking they shoulda focused more on making the early/mid game experience fun.
For me it was about how grindy it became, 65K gold for spear and another 65K for royal armor was just too much, doing quests wasn't even worth it since some of them were actually difficult to pull, like doing the most dmg or being the last person to land a hit on the sans and kill him
Says smth about sans: 3 mins later: And possession sans! More stuff about other sans maps: 2 mins later: And possession sans! Papyrus is an exe HE CAN DO ANYTHING: And possession sans Love your vids btw❤
3:29 I'm just mentioning it, possession sans will get a rework or at least get a map change for the next ULC update, yes this was out of context but also UFS was dumb, like bro murder sans as a ruins dust skin? Bro in canon can't use fire ;w; Sorry if I was mean but UFS actually missed in opportunity with murder sans.
It's not about skins and all that crap, I bet most people (me included) left after the April's fools update when the levels were added. Like, grinding for direct dash/health/damage upgrades just so that I can fight buffed Sanses? No thanks.
@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff To be honest, I didn't really care about the lack of updates, since there were quite a bunch (garbage ones like April fools one, but still counts)
Hurts my soul too because the Artstyle, Ost and Passion during the initial development was well done. This game truly has the potential to be a decent game but it just doesn't quite get there.
big W video but i think you forgot about the potential game kill updates example: resets RESETING EVERYTHING, and you have to do it multiple times to unlock a certain item or gain more lv. A skill tree that just makes it alot harder for newer players "fixed now" and much more.
expanding on the point of missed opportunities lets look at how unique the main playable cast is . 4 out of 12 characters are some kind of swap. 6 out of 12 battles take place in some sort of snowdin. and also most of the au's are really old he latest au to come out was in 2018 belonging to horrortale/dusttale. but most of them average to around 2015/2016.
what are the swaps beside paps and sans. also i do think they should work on characters that aren't in snowdin but luckily the next character wont be a snowdin character
@guideoftheriver7112 the problem is there is not much to do with the same sans over and over with gaster blasters and bone. Then again didn't stop last corridor from making swap papyrus not just a camper sans. But the issue with lack of different aus is that you can't make movements feel different
Overall I think UFS has the budget of a toilet which is why the game is currently trash and overall the game should at least give worn dagger a second ability, if the skill tree is a thing then hope it makes worn dagger worth it. Also UFS was overhyped to the ground but it's a good game but was overhyped. But I think the most important reason that killed UFS isn't the lack of content or any of that but because of the win lock, like most players quit the game not realizing that they need to do quests to gain the ability to get more wins so for the next update, UFS should remove the win cap in general since it was one of the major reasons that caused UFS to suffer and lose players overtime, because quests in a SVC can be fun if not forced at the player's throat so removing the important quests and win caps, UFS will get players back. And UFS kinda fell short because they added too much gamepasses.
Ralsei's genuine response to criticism like this is "where's your game?" yet this is the best criticism i've seen on UFS. Especially after the 2 probably best devs Yesil and Door quit (This is all I know so far, Im banned in UFS and gladly so.) i dont see UFS being able to make any good updates now unless they pull some good devs out of their ass.
The new sans is based of an undertale au webcomic called inverted fate, which is a timeline where asriel wins and resets, but messes up, causing him to lose a soul and the 3 main pairings ( toriel and asgore, sans and papyrus , undyne and alphs) to keep their personalities , which causes massive changes. Thats the context
3:05 Everyone including UFS devs hate Papyruses,and were too lazy to add him a gaster blaster,but uhh ig they had time to add Outer a domain to cosplay Gojo.
I still dont get why they chose to not only lock new characters behind pointless grind, like the thing where you have to farm a specific item by winning matches in order to get Outer, instead of just straight up letting people enjoy the update? And also, this may just be a personal thing, but I don't think Outer and Inverted fate sans are hype enough to release them with an update focused around them. Imagine how we could've gotten FFTBO, SS Chara, Disbelief, or maybe even the second part of the horror event (which imo would be WAY more hype than outer or inverted fate sans ), but they rather just worked on, and released a not only unfinished, but also boring character like Inverted fate sans. It would maaaybe be alright if they weren't the only new characters featured in the new update, but like, they just had us wait for 2 months for the update, just for the update to be a few skins ( that could've been whole ahh characters like you said ), and inverted fate sans ( which I honestly don't think anybody actually cared for at all )
I feel like the skins COULD work, if they do it the way ULC does it, adding some new attacks to the skins or possibly a entirely new moveset if possible!
im pretty sure the dev team and UFS community kept on harassing another dev because of his underswap model, he made a video about it too (the person's name is vio, you can find the video at their channel)
i think the problem of UFS was that it was advertised to be such a high quality game that it came out lackluster when it took a good amount of time to come out.. lots of potential and quality, but underbaked in content which is understandable considering ULC had a multi-year head start compared to the game just releasing a couple of months back, but it was really rough to have all the hype lead into nothing else after so long except for two characters and skins another important factor was the fact that other than the sans team, the gameplay overall wasn't as exciting as the preview videos made it out to be. ULC just has this fun gameplay loop of trying out new characters and working towards upgrades that make your character considerably better, along with the weapons also all being unique and changing up how games may or may not go. with UFS, although it is rewarding to learn the Sanses, it does get very reptitive as nothing really changes the more you play them. Also the fact that the Chara team in UFS is just way more boring than ULCs makes it so you don't have a lot of fun 3/4ths of the time. I think its important to mention that having UFS around was still good overall, as with competition came an increase in overall quality of ULC updates for it to become the gold standard SvC game. as a person who stood behind ULC, I can respect the massive amounts of effort that was put into UFS but it is sad to see it not live up to the hype. I was hoping it could be a nice alternative SvC to ULC where you could swap to one while waiting for the other to update, but with the recent news, who knows how the future will be for UFS.
Osso bro make more videos please your updates on everything it's very nice to hear and it helps me decide what to play so please keep up the good work 👍
I started this game a couple months ago. Mained Underswap sans (cause he’s fun and I’m not a jerk). He’s fun and it feels great getting combos with him! Was sharply disappointed that my favorite version of sans is both pay to use and pay to win. I’m less frustrated with the skins and more frustrated with the balancing issues. Im still a relatively new player so I do the low level lobbies. You think I’d be safe from overpowered sanses there, right? Naw! Inverted Fate Sans shows up about 1/6 of the time and completely trashes the Chara team every time. Call it a skill issue but he is kinda busted with his range and abilities. I haven’t seen a victory against him once yet, I swear. Another issue is that the menu navigation feels slow, which is an issue given you only have a short time to navigate it and make choices before a new match starts.
i mean it was honestly sad how 2 big developers are retiring because they lost interest, which was sorta the reason why the development was slowing down a lot
For the missed opportunity section the devs have stated that skins can be characters as I do believe possession sans is a future character on their radar. The skins are basically just kinda model dumps until their moveset are made for some characters
Well too bad that most likely ain't gonna happen since they added their funeral update, although they have Stated that ssc chara and gaiden aka sudden change sans will be finished,so who knows if alot of players played the game with that update they might still continue updating it
Im not surprised that UFS is dying, they were given time to give us characters they were given SO MUCH TIME MAN and it had hyped us so much and just ended up being a flop. The skins should have been just characters if that was so it wouldn't be dead. Fck UFS owners or whoever made these decisions the devs/concept artists your all good I respect yall for putting up with this.
@@DustdustSans_Gaming As in the words of a wise man, "You shouldn't be forced to pick something you don't wanna play just to counter someone else " That's the entirety of UFS summarized. Counter picks
I tried playing it and it was just so frustrating to a new player that i quit after around 10 matches. The fact that the "beginner friendly" servers are empty doesnt help at all
you wanna talk about wasted potential with skins and not bring up the ELEPHANT in the room; murder!sans. not only is bro a skin for DUST!SANS, a character with attacks bro can't even do. but the POTENTIAL. murder!sans has the classic stuff yk blasters, kr, teleportation, bones, yeah all that however he also has traps, heals, melee, CHEMICALS, EXPLODING BONES, SENTIENT BLASTERS?? also he can CHANGE HIS ATTACKS EACH LOAD, HE HAS THAT MUCH OPPORTUNITY AND YET THEY DON'T DO A SINGLE THING?? yet inverted fate sans is a character, smh.
I have not played this game for some time and then I came back saw what they cooked with outer and was "wtf is this" now i hear bout the lootboxes and I dont wanna come back.
As someone that took the time to get the april fools badge and played the game for a while it's disappointed. Updates are small and looks like they're made in 3 weeks of 4 months, the game got 6k players at the first day, and now usually have +100 less players than ulc. The skin update was trash, basically what they did in the RNG event but now with less sense than before. Such a same this game was hyped asf and now it's very dead.
Although balancing is a good point, i dont think it would be true to say ULC is balanced. The difference is that getting an op in ULC requires somewhat tedious grinding or an event, while UFS requires you to play for about 10 hours or less and thats it. Also the grand majority of the people who played UFS plays ULC, and another point to be made would be that people simply weren't willing to give up the hours upon hours they spent just to get an op character in ULC, but this is because ULC came out way before UFS did, and the UFS team cant really do anything to combat this except hope that they can push out enough content to convince people to leave ULC behind in favor of UFS, which they definally arent doing at the time
i can agree and disagree with some of the opinions as a dev i can see the criticism but i can also disagree with some of the points in the vid (especially with papyrus exe due to the current drama. Also bonely one will be a character dont worry) but in the end not all updates are good and this one wasnt one of our best by a long shot.
I feel like one of the problems people have with this game And all games for that matter are the need for more content constantly ufs isn't your average game they put so much work into making the visuals look good I mean it took them three years to make this game man, they're doing a great job in my opinion and your right characters like horror sans ruins dust, and especially outer sans are broken and not very balanced but the majority of characters and weapons in this game are balanced plus they aren't just trying to make characters on the go like oh we need a new character lets use this one and we're done, They put multiple future planning for all their characters and the direction they want to go with each one literally every single character has a different map and imagine how hard that is, sure this game has its issues but in my opinion this is one of the best roblox undertale games I don't care what you say about it
Bro you make goods points the one I agree is the most slow is the FBS drop with outer Sans they were seriously need to fix that. Fun fact with Xboxes and probably PS4s the FPS drop is so bad even kicks those players.
The fact that the whole game just collapsed now that Door has announced their retirement from it in the Discord Server, I feel like Door was the only one holding the entire game together. The fact that as soon as Door left, they threw in the towel and said, "fuck it, we gamble" by bringing back the RNG Event for people to grind on to somewhat keep the game alive for the little time it has left. Like you said in this video, I'm glad this game is dying. I felt like they were completely relying on Door, and now he's gone, they just gave up. Good riddance, ngl.
Another thing to note on why UFS flopped on release, it heavily alienated itself from other SvC communities with their "Best SvC" hypetrain. When UFS actually dropped a good chunk of the svc community probably went in with negative opinions or just didnt try it at all. Also I personally disliked the "Ufs > Ujd" and "Ulc players when they realize good models wont fix their trash gameplay" messages that can tandomly pop up, its just obnoxious and unnecessarily agressive.
I just want to put my input on the video for a little clarification but also my thoughts, certain things like Flowey Possessed Sans would likely become a character into the future. The same case for Bonely One although he is not going to be a skin (i mean he literally has a skin already that would probably go to him once he's out). I do agree with updates, they should be more consistent that is something I agree with. Although the skin update was disappointing it did introduce the skin system so they could get it out the way but I do think it shouldn't have just been cosmetics and they should've added a little more content to gameplay. One thing I liked about the update was just the new banner system and Inverted Fate is a little nice ig. I wish the best for UFS and I DON'T think it should die😭but the developers could learn from this experience. (Crossbones rework is going to happen)
The only thing I ever want for this game before it dies, is balancing. *Fix the sans characters; bad time sans is just running around, fell is the same but worse, outer is unfair even with a good team, US paps is just mad crazy how he can one shot so easily. (science and ts rework when) *Check the weapons; stick is useless and boring, worn dagger is so broken and simple, the gloves are so bad, spear is so weird as it covers so many roles but does none of them, chaos sabers are broken once you get the timming, notebook is broken and boring. *PLEASE CHECK ALL SOUL+WEAPON COMBO POTENTIAL, IT'S NOT FAIR TO FIGHT A PATIENCE+SABERS AS A DODGE CHARACTER AND NEITHER IT IS A BRAVERY+DAGGER AS A HP CHARACTER.
A mnha opinião cincera sobre esse jogo é que simplesmente ele é muito bom, tipo não sei por que mais apesar do ULC ter mais conteudo e mais players eu sempre preferi o UFS. No quisito balanceamento tevo reconhecer que alguns são realmente quebrados, tipo dust sans, mais o resto eu diria que é bem balanceado se você realmente jogar bem você consegue derrotar um time experiente e com as melhores armas com os primeiros sans do jogo. Agora no quisito progressão realmente demora um pouco, tipo eu só consegui um celular que conseguisse rodar esse jogo em abril desse ano e só ontem eu consegui maximizar minha conta, em outras palavras pegar os itens mais fortes como alma da determinação, sabres do chaos e asas da hyper morte. No geral, esse jogo é realmente muito bom e com muita potencial muito desperdiçado tipo os personagens de adm eu reconheço que os personagens de ADM são só os modelos e as abilidades são recicladas, mais cara... ELES TEM O DUST TRUST! Não custava nada adiciona, né? Mesmo que so tenha 10 ou 20 pessoas jogando esse jogo eu vou continuar jogando esse jogo eu só espero que não vacilem na próxima update desse jogo... E nerva o dust, bixo chato de mata. Observação: desculpe caso tenha alguns erros ortográficos, é isso tenha um otimo dia👍.
Hiyo! Gamekiller! I agree alot actually, Like I really don't wanna be rude or offense but honestly the ULC devs take some time but honestly they add wayyyy more content and stuff for their game compared to UFS not to be rude though.
So UFS has enough game passes to make Blizzard and EA blush Meanwhile ULC has left 2/3rds of the gamepasses rotting because they aint the focus. Like i know there have recently been teasers of a remodel of Sixbones and Possession Sans, but they left those two to rot for so long I think they decided to kinshift to Alphys and actually decided to hide the amalgams The game focuses on actual variety and tends to focus their updates towards reworking characters anyone can use as seen by the fact the characters who need remodels are the gamepasses and higher win characters
Honestly i don't understand why people were this hyped about the game in the first place, it had so many issues with the staff and community before the game even came out, and acting like "the ulc killer" when ulc has been out for YEARS and has always been either number 1 or occasionally 2 behind UJD when it updated a lot more
gotta love how the devs were fucking GASING IT UP as the best Chara vs Sans game on roblox, even going as far to post edits on yt about it beating all the other Undertale games in a slightly toxic manner. And yet all it ended up as is O V E R S T IM U L A T I O N at it's mid-est and just becoming another gambling simulator lmao
i think the reason why the game has fallen its because of the huge amount of time consuming the game require i mean lets be real i need 75k gold for an armor like why????
If they make epic and legenday skins have especial moves or a total change can make the game more fun how making the storyspin sans being a legendary skin,that man have the most unbalanced moveset,recovering moves,rushing taking for suprise by slipping in a kepchup bottle💀
4:53 LET'S GO GAMBLING!!!
ERR ahw dangit!
*BEEEP*
aw dang it!
*BEEEEP*
Aw dang It!
Well to be fair they put it on Roblox when they should've just made a fangame on Gamejolt
@@Ostr0 these two are completely different platforms
Hi! I'm an official UFS dev and I can agree for the most part that the game has a lot of missed opportunities, I myself have no real influence on the games ideas and balancing. Though something I'd like to note is that svc game updates are BOUND to fall as they only get traction for like 3 days and then they go off radar for another 2 months. The same happened with ULC, and the same will happen with UFS.
pretty good point honestly, gg.
It would be cool to see you guys do a collab tbh
then why ujd holded 500 playercount for like half a fucking year with only one actually good update?
@@computritori because the crazy amount of characters UJD has, and the characterss arent even that bad, thats why
@@MiNi_0815 reasonable enough
so fun fact, i used to work on the concept team! i quit awhile ago during the era when laziestbones owned it.
some of the skins such as: Punkfell (made by ant) and Swaptale (made by Brilage) sans were designed by us.
Not only did they give us NO CREDIT, but they were also extremely rude to us. what we made was purely for fun and we received no payment or benefits. which most of us were fine with, Afterall our goal as a concept team was to help the devs by making character concepts and skins to help ease their work load.
The way areoc treated me after i left and while i was there was very poor, not only is he extremely homophobic. he has the tendency to use slurs such as the n word and the gay slur against me.
This game was killing itself from the inside out for a long while, it was only a matter of time before people started noticing.
I hate how the dev team works in ufs, they are lazy and don't appreciate when people do stuff for them.
Brilage and ant both deserve their credit for their work and concepts.
and before im asked, i didn't like laziest as a owner of the concept server, but at least he was able to care more than the devs did about the game.
dang
dang dude
I was also in the concept team but decided to leave a few weeks after 😭
What was their beef with ULC (if that was ever serious)
i hope this isn't true about areoc, considering he used to work on my game (kobk,) and i am still somewhat in contact with him. that's a BIGGG yikes if so... 😭
Adding my opinion to this cus why not:
I feel like UFS VISUALLY is amazing. The models are really high quality, the skins are quite good, and the effects (though sometimes WAY TOO FLASHY) are really good!
BUT HOLY HELL WE NEED CHARACTERS
Like said in the video some of the skins we got could have been completely separate characters (Possession, Paps.EXE, Time Paradox, Catastrophe Fell, ETC)
That and the balancing for the Sans can be really boiled down to: Actually requiring skill and time or haha LMB + 1 go brrrrrr
The same goes for the weapons/armors. Some of them have really cool concepts that in practice completely fall flat. Atleast with ULC almost every weapon is viable. Hell STICK in ULC is viable for crying outloud. In UFS i never see anyone use any other weapon then Worn Dagger, Toy Knife, Spear, or Empty Revolver. Same with armors. Everybody uses either Apron, Locket, or Royal Armor.
Nobodies gonna see this but i needed to add my lil' ramble here
possession is prob gonna be a character but i disagree with the rest
Spear was gutted now and I basically only see 1 spear user in the span of 3 days
every weapon SHOULD be viable.
wins determining power removes skill from the equation, like ujd
the best player could be fighting someone braindead, but if the braindead person is using, say, omnipotant sans, the skillful person will lose.
in ufs, some weapons/armors reign supreme.
in ulc, stick, the starter weapon, is viable
toy knife, 10 win weapon, is GOOD.
tough glove is good, requires some skill to use right
ect
someone using 666 win koffin k with say, determination, would still lose against a very skilled classic user, a 10 wins character.
only issue with ulc balancing is low-win sans team characters, which are getting reworked.
HOLY HELL?
MORE LIKE
FIRE IN THE HOLE!
@@under_90 Are we forgetting the people who use extremely unbalanced characters on ulc (im staring at you red mains)
And the worst part is that it is supposedly the "ulc killer",and the ufs update vs the sins of the past ain't even comparable,like,ulc had 5 new characters(I'm counting hardmode ulc sans),3 new weapons,a new quest,2 reworked souls,3 buffs and nerfs(Hardtale
,papyrus,horror),AND 200 BUGS FIXED,and yeah the update did cause some more but they fixed it fast,while ufs had one character a gambling system and more skins
tbh the skin system did not exist the skins were just apart of gpasses/events i don't rlly mind. but i do want them to make like more content for gameplay like weapons/characters and probably fixing what's wrong with the game currently
yeah they arent comparable cuz its a skin update that took about 2 months to make when sotp is a major update that took 6-7 months with 4 reworks
@@freezeoicegodAre you comparing empty promises-sins of the past or
Dust reworks-sins of the past?
@@EnzoGranzotto sotp to ufs skin update not sure why theres any confusion
@@freezeoicegodI'm talking about the time sotp had,was it from the dust rework or from the empty promises update?
Honestly I think the main reason these issues are so bad is because of how big the pre-release hype train was. If this were a different SvC game that got announced and dropped a few weeks apart it wouldn't be so bad, but we've been waiting literal YEARS for this game and it could never match the hype people had.
I understand where your coming from, but putting all the blame on pre-release hype is just wrong. the way they are handling development and updates for ufs is just unacceptable.
@@fernandogarcia4027 Yea, but the game was developing for like... 2 - 4 years?
It’s completely deserved. They kept hyping up their game trashing on other games. If you can’t deliver then don’t promise
*revealing the sweet truth*
@@theguythatsalwayswrong3965and within those years we where expecting alot of content and not a game full of rng, like even their funeral update the only thing they added back is the April fool's joke which ofc a sol rng game disguised as a Undertale and jjk themed, like they are still trying to milk the game even when it's dead
I watied 3 years for this and I never been this disappointed
3 years i thought the game would solo ulc no diff but yea
@@snowy_flakey5404 Same man
The hype I had on ufs was immense
They were doing fine when they started then they just decided to just show-off they're models instead of gameplay, they said the SvC mode will be different than other SvC but sadly there were no different mechanics.
@@snowy_flakey5404 ulc devs are cool they care abt the fans, their workers. and they have booster now. (I may have convinced him to join ULC) Biggest flex ever tbh
Bruh same I was hyped as hell for that game
here my opintion on the skin update:
1. there was no fun
2. it was crap
3. there was many unneeded things we didnt ask
4. barely things we asked
and i want next update to have more fun included
Too late to go back
hello dustdust ganing.
hello dustdust ganing.
i didnt expected the alotta of likes on my comment! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Btw alot of bugs and some bugs that are still a problem even after months,like the stamina draining super quickly
2:52 well, they probably cant add this interpretation of Papyrus.EXE anymore, cause this version only appears in the AleAltorio fangame, and adding it would get them into another controversy, though the point about missed potential is true, so good point, bad example ig.
Didnt they add promised sans tho?
@@hannes9773 yeah they did, before the controversy, idk wait they're planning on doing to him, I'm just saying adding another Ale character wouldn't look good for the team, cause of all the other controversies they've been in
I love the fact ufs was always shitting on ujd and saying there game is better,but now even ujd averages more players than ufs💀
they *shit* watching now tbh
@@RubilTheGreat115Please don't insult or do anything like that. Everyone stay clean.
@@CharaTRthey bought that to themselves,they threw all that trash words to ulc and ufs,they had merg do multiple vid on em and yet they still focused giving out more rng stuff and skins, like they said "confidence is a slow insidious killer"
@@CharaTRI mean ujd
@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff That's because they suck at updating correctly. But even if you influence a new character into the game, you can't do much with that character.They said that the experience would not affect the game, but it doesn't, it gets boring after a while.Also that sentence should be "too confident".
gta 6 is probably gonna drop before we get an actual content update in ufs
And that says a case Oh worth of weight
ULC IS BETTER!!
UJD solo
Funny thing is that it’s said that it’s no longer being continued in the discord
@@TheDigitalOlive1473 Yes lol
it's pretty much confirmed that UFS is doomed. even the devs are calling the next update the 'funeral update'. such a massive disappointment istg. the devs spent 3 years hyping this game up as the next massive roblox UT game and right now it can't even compete with sans multiversal battles 2 (an already cancelled project) 💀. UFS deserves the fate it got imo, quite a few of the primary developers were massive assholes who bigged up a game that wasn't even out, and look where it got them.
We're going to get core dust in ulc before ufs has a quality update that is more than skins
🗣🗣🗣
nah we gonna get phase 3 last breath, core dust, ss chara remodel, 50m visits, huge balancing, and medium/high wins servers before UFS even makes an update
ULC: nah we gonna get 5 extra dusts nightmare sanses Nega!Tale rework (its actually comming out) better SS!chara oceantale sans reaper sans DUSTDUSTDUST aprilfools 50mil visits better balancing maybe a shop for food in single player area every character gets a remodel Outerfell will exist and some more weapons and weapon reworks
UFS: we will add 3 extra skins in 1.5 years :>
UJD: ill still be alive and my discord will still be a war zone but i'll add more characters and rework my characters
minecraft undertale roblox game (forgot its name) : well add more characters and make the lobby look better
ULS: more characters
Funnily enough that might be the case because ufs just released a funeral update
@@Thelaserman20 because the game dead XD?
UFS devs on their way to ruin the balancing to their game and take 4+ months to add two skins that are just color shifts
the skins arent bad ppl just want characters/weapons + balance fixes
@@lenixforgot they should do that..!!
@@lenixforgotwhich is, what they’re supposed to do
i can only appreciate 2 parts of this update
1. the existence of punk fell sans that shit peaks
2. inverted fate getting recognition that shit ALSO peaks. the character's cool, but the blindness is not fun, since it's used as a reward for sans and NOT a punishment for chara, when it should be the other way around
other than that, it just feels... sad
if we got a MASSIVE update after 2 years or smth that'd be awesome
but instead we waited a while for a big reveal that turned out to be nothing
the game would frankly be better if there was NO update, so we have the illusion that progress is being made
now we have confirmation that there's nothing
Yeahh I like inverted fate but I think it's not worth it
something to mention would be the competition...
they're trying to compete with ULC,which kinda... outperforms UFS.
ngl , ulc will slowly get BETTER . . so not only is ufs already fighting with a disadvantage , but ULC is getting boosted too because of it adding reworks and stuff .
ULC removed bone , the "press m1 to win" weapon . They removed something so the game could be fun . ULC cares about community , UFS is trying to sell the same thing over and over . We'll have 20 skins on each character before we get 20 characters in UFS .
I get that ufsia has fallen off but you don’t have to glaze ulc like both games are shit
@@ChronicCommenterI mean with the current state ufs is on rn he's kinda right, even if they released the update with sudden changes,not alot of people will play it and will start another drama since it needs 3 or 4 bullet items and 450 wins
I feel like UFS is fundamentally inferior to ULC due to ULC's progression system. Progression in UFS is extremely TERRIBLE for chara team, Its boring, slow and annoying considering you are playing on chara team way more than as sans. Even though ULC is much less polised the devs work on it faster and more consistently even if quality and balance changes are often questionable they eventually get things right.
Ulc overall is extremely difficult to compete with as its been on roblox for the longest time and manages to keep up with competition and quality of other roblox games.
Yes! This is true, ULC has been around for so long, and it has survived the catastrophe that was Aiden, not to mention it has been consistently putting up progress reports, responding to the community, hearing complaints, AND fixing so many bugs after updates/when they update (200+ bugs fixed, Jesus Christ)
His name is andrian dont get it right.@@STATIC_GAMING1
@@STATIC_GAMING1 tbh, having 200+ bugs in first place might be a bad thing... Tho, i guess they do things right in the end.
Also, it may be a thing that they just put out unfinished unbalanced stuff, and then polish it after seeing the actual reactions to it
This is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen lmaooo
@@ChronicCommenterwhat's Soo funny about it?
Honestly the game is just missing content, LOTS of content. For example you could get to 500 wins pretty easily and there is near nothing to do. Without the sans upgrades implemented yet, sometimes i feel like there is nearly no point to play sans other than for fun or discovering what that sans does on your 1-400th win. While i did enjoy the skins and maps most of them being charming it just feels dull fighting them or using them. And i do understand making games takes time with most of these devs being in HS so im not surprised that updates take a while. If they just add more gameplay content rather than cosmetics i see myself playing it alot more.
The thing I despise about UFS is the lootboxs. I would have much preferred an option to buy crates with GOLD, but the only option is to spend Robux with the chance of getting the same skin again.
I spent 99 Robux and got Outer Sans but with a worse OST. Definitely a rare skin, huh guys?
Not to mention that I had better chances getting a rare skin from a common crate that was actually good, then an actual rare skin crate. (I spent robux on a crate before the round started, and I can’t tell if I got nothing or the skin I got was Pacifist swap Papyrus, who’s just swap papyrus with glasses.)
I had really high hopes for UFS, but now I feel like the developers getting greedy with this gambling update. I’m likely only going back to UFS when a new character comes out/is finished or if you can use GOLD to buy skins.
But can't you actually buy the crates with gold?
You can buy with gold
@@abozonamedblur9020 Nah you just blind, you can buy common crate for gold and for other crates like rare or epic you also need keys that you can get from winning round with idk chance
Inverted Fate sans was the only reason I've came back to UFS due to my absolute love of that au. . . and then i left it to go play ULC again.
average UFS update be like: LETS GO GAMBLING!!
AW DANG IT!
AW DANG IT!
AW DANG IT!
honestly, if they focused on adding more characters, which as you said, could've been done with a LOT of skins, the game could possibly stay alive for the next update if it doesnt take an insane amount of time to release. Another thing that would help the game stay alive is upgrades. It would keep people playing the game and it would make characters way more interesting. I think it's one of the main reasons why ULC has more active players.
bros releasing a new characters and then everyone starts saying how op they are. Making a balanced character is kinda hard
@@QSBraWQit is of they actually listen to their community like the amount of players spamming how op outer sans is insane and the thing they fixed it with? Rework the domain expansion making it more op...
UFS really just dug their own grave. They should honestly kind of do their updates kinda like how ULC does, update both teams at the same time. Cause if you update just the chara team, the sans team will suffer from that update. THEN they decide, "Oh why not just add skins that WILL NOT IN ANY TYPE OF WAY AT. ALL help the sans team!!!11! They honestly had so much time to add so much new content to the game after all months they had been out. They honestly killed themself with the updates. I really hope UMSR doesnt fall down this same path. Cause by the look of it, UMSR is already close to this fate aswell. (Edit, UMSR isnt gonna die, I mean, it's def gonna be a game that'll push against ULC.)
UMSR was a fun game (until they took it down, #bring back UMSR!!!,) and the game play was peak, it was goofy, you could combo, it was good and so were the skins. The characters were also creative bc you had a special ability depending on who you chose. Examples:
Susie had a Tp mechanic like in delta rune where if the enemy gets near you, you rapidly gain tp and tp allowed you to use red buster and ultimate healing with ultimate healing as the name applies, heal the enemy team but a little bit but they take extra damage and red buster is like a ray of red pillars that can semi track players and with sans you can teleport the chara team setting them up for the most gnarly combo to exist or impale someone and bring them right towards you allowing you to also combo them, and with jevil? he really is a speed demon with his feats
@@ashtonjr That was a stress test. They were just seeing if it would be close to ready for players. It's gonna come back, they're just working on more stuff, and it's probably gonna be in a beta so you can play it all the time (That's a probably with the beta tho)
The ulc killer can't even kill ulc because it killed itself already lmao
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this is the best comment in this comment section hands down, i genuinely wonder why you dont have more likes yet.
4:26 Honestly ULC had the best april fools update, where if you had 4k exp on dust sans and all the singleplayer badges expect hate then you would have the ability to use dustdust who is a strong character yet unique, but overall I think UFS already killed itself by first doing the win lock and then their april fools event, the april fools event is one of the best updates to UFS, not the one with little sans and sukuna and blah blah, no I mean the one before UFS was even released.
OH YEAH THE FAKE UFS RELEASE 😭
deepwoken :final showdown > undertale :final showdown
real
Honestly dustdust was not a unique character at all, all of his moves were copied which is a far cry from stuff like super science sans ( Ujd is goated for giving an actually cool character ). I mean it's understandable it's just a joke
But don't flaunt that as something ulc did well.
Though it was better than playing sol's rng 0.5
@@mxa5794 royal rain and bone throw, shadow clone : am I a joke to yo ass?
@@SansINess53 Spear rain was taken from an admin character, the shadow clone was the first look at Perseverance's rework, and the bone throw I haven't seen but believe it's another admin character move. The devs themselves said that they just took a bunch of random stuff from their other characters because they found a good model for dustdust.
I don't think ufs is unbalanced, it's just that the balance is geared mainly towards REALLY experienced players.
Also, that horror oneshot combo you showed was nerfed a while ago
Apart from that, I agree with everything you said in the video, hopefully the devs listen and learn from their mistakes.
Fr bro as an really noob player that can’t even hit the sans once (god forgive me for giving more trouble to my teammates)i think the game is not unbalanced its just that its for a really skilled people
Sorry about my grammar😂
I think you're forgetting about outer and dust sans, like with the ragdoll effect and huge dmg of outer tale PLUS reworked domain expansion which made it more op while dust sans flame effects are cancer and last forever,sure you can roll but the game never told ya about being able to do that to get rid of the flame effects
Lets also not forget the whole four charas vs one sans which is beyond unfair in games like these, because 99 percent of the time if you don't have a phase 2 your going to lose and even if you do the odds are stacked against you, because theres more of them then there are of you.
I have an idea for UFS characters, they could make the characters weaker but also make low win and mid win servers and then they could add upgrades, like crossbones freakin having a side kick blaster, or pacifist becoming joking aside where he could use blasters or unlock snowdin by defeating dust sans in a different mode to gain him but not make him cancer to beat.
As a ULC fan, I can say that ULC suffers from a few of the issues you listed. For example, the 20 million visits event is a rerun of the 10 million visits event, thus making it so people who already had the ulc sans skin (which I did) cannot look forward to these events. Not to mention updates have slowed down significantly lately.
At least they reworked some of the weapons
As if they haven’t done that a bajillion times
And they still haven’t reworked disbelief bone…..
I want my disbelief bone back :(
Not really, they specifically are rerunning the ULC sans event for retro mode. Which is usable if you have ULC sans thus making the visit events about ULC sans isn't that bad.
The game is getting some very needed content updates. Which I’m very excited about
SO MANY GAMES suffer from hating their new players. Unless you have a server with all low wins, you need to be technoblade reincarnate to win as pacifist or swap. Having characters that need skill is how you should design games, but making starters either need hours to learn how to play well or just die to high wins will kill your game. This is how UJD was so successful, because of the win servers where things were balanced. Some examples of games that do this (somewhat) well are UT:FJ and UFJ (both stand for undertale final judgement)
I think a reason why there are almost no players (or atleast my reason) is that they were hyping the game up for too long. what i mean is that they kept showing showcases but didnt release the game. So when the game eventually released, most of the people who watched the showcases probably forgot about the game. this might not be true since the game has 6 million visits tho.
"Even ujd has a better April fool's upda-" if there is one... (The game has a loyal community and high player counts even without updates, which is around 78-212 BUT THE DEVS ARE TOO LAZY)
I’m excited for the future. And I think this game can grow. It’s not dead
35 ccu i think its dead :/
@@thelast19912 ulc also had these players back than
@@Yetta-meta I dont know that but the game still only has 1 characther lol as new ofc
@@thelast19912 and ulc has had 1 as well?
UFS's big problem is just a lack of content combined with shitty priorities when it comes to adding content. They came out with 10 characters, but 3 of which are in dire need of a rework: Classic (he's boring), Science (no explanation needed), and TS!US (Unhealthy gameplay), so that only totals out to 7 characters with no upgrades or anything to encourage players to play more... this caused everyone to unlock the 7 decent characters in the game, play them, and quit because there was nothing else to do, and it doesnt help that even among the 7 "Good" characters in game there are some more boring/bland ones like fell or Swap Sans which create a lack of replay ability because of how tame they are.
(swap is debatable, but you get my point)
After everybody left the dev team should've focused on giving new worthwhile content into the game that could attract players for a longer amount of time, instead we got... Stat- oh I mean SKILL trees and skins (Why?). Sure there's 2 new characters but they release them unfinished and honestly... Outer was really rough at the start, which just made it even worse.
These mediocre updates with no real substance is what I think is killing the game, though its not like there aren't any other issues. The Chara team is overall boring, souls don't do SHIT you literally should chose them based on whats your favorite color, not their in game effects, Armors are (MOSTLY) background buffs that you can't really toy around with, and weapons are (MOSTLY) boring with them having only 1 skill which is always one dimensional.
Last thing ima say, which is pretty unrelated to everything else but... anyone else find it stupid that they're adding all this late game weapon/armor shit? It doesn't matter how cool the end game is if no one wants to get through the early game. I can't be the only one thinking they shoulda focused more on making the early/mid game experience fun.
Funny to think what people legit thinked what ufs was ulc killer. Maybe they would be right, if devs didn't BURNT the game to ashes.
For me it was about how grindy it became, 65K gold for spear and another 65K for royal armor was just too much, doing quests wasn't even worth it since some of them were actually difficult to pull, like doing the most dmg or being the last person to land a hit on the sans and kill him
Says smth about sans:
3 mins later:
And possession sans!
More stuff about other sans maps:
2 mins later:
And possession sans!
Papyrus is an exe HE CAN DO ANYTHING:
And possession sans
Love your vids btw❤
this is why i play ULC dawg
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@@snowy_flakey5404i edge to ulc littletale sans
@@arandomgoofyperson-ez3muNOO-
ON GOD
@@arandomgoofyperson-ez3muI made that character , he is SIX
3:29 I'm just mentioning it, possession sans will get a rework or at least get a map change for the next ULC update, yes this was out of context but also
UFS was dumb, like bro murder sans as a ruins dust skin? Bro in canon can't use fire ;w;
Sorry if I was mean but UFS actually missed in opportunity with murder sans.
It's not about skins and all that crap, I bet most people (me included) left after the April's fools update when the levels were added. Like, grinding for direct dash/health/damage upgrades just so that I can fight buffed Sanses? No thanks.
Nah some players left since they are tired with the lack of content and alot of skins being added instead of more sans,weapon,armor or soul
@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff To be honest, I didn't really care about the lack of updates, since there were quite a bunch (garbage ones like April fools one, but still counts)
3:45 The fact the owner retired 12 hours after this video is crazy ngl
damn
Hurts my soul too because the Artstyle, Ost and Passion during the initial development was well done.
This game truly has the potential to be a decent game but it just doesn't quite get there.
big W video
but i think you forgot about the potential game kill updates example: resets RESETING EVERYTHING, and you have to do it multiple times to unlock a certain item or gain more lv. A skill tree that just makes it alot harder for newer players "fixed now" and much more.
expanding on the point of missed opportunities lets look at how unique the main playable cast is . 4 out of 12 characters are some kind of swap. 6 out of 12 battles take place in some sort of snowdin. and also most of the au's are really old he latest au to come out was in 2018 belonging to horrortale/dusttale. but most of them average to around 2015/2016.
what are the swaps beside paps and sans. also i do think they should work on characters that aren't in snowdin but luckily the next character wont be a snowdin character
@@lenixforgot crossbones and inverted fate are the other 2
@@dakotacornish6616I don't see how it's a problem, though they certainly could have made IF sans more original..
@@guideoftheriver7112 at least there's an attempt im not into Inverted Fate but im sure he's just a basic sans.. thats my assumption
@guideoftheriver7112 the problem is there is not much to do with the same sans over and over with gaster blasters and bone. Then again didn't stop last corridor from making swap papyrus not just a camper sans. But the issue with lack of different aus is that you can't make movements feel different
Overall I think UFS has the budget of a toilet which is why the game is currently trash and overall the game should at least give worn dagger a second ability, if the skill tree is a thing then hope it makes worn dagger worth it.
Also UFS was overhyped to the ground but it's a good game but was overhyped.
But I think the most important reason that killed UFS isn't the lack of content or any of that but because of the win lock, like most players quit the game not realizing that they need to do quests to gain the ability to get more wins so for the next update, UFS should remove the win cap in general since it was one of the major reasons that caused UFS to suffer and lose players overtime, because quests in a SVC can be fun if not forced at the player's throat so removing the important quests and win caps, UFS will get players back.
And UFS kinda fell short because they added too much gamepasses.
i didnt play UFS for 1 year after the win lock at 30 wins XD
@@Insatiable-saucy yeah, UFS should seriously remove the win lock and important quests since most of them aren't needed.
It is insanely funny that UJD, a game which hasn't been updated in months, still holds a higher playercount than UFS by around 50% on average.
Ralsei's genuine response to criticism like this is "where's your game?" yet this is the best criticism i've seen on UFS. Especially after the 2 probably best devs Yesil and Door quit (This is all I know so far, Im banned in UFS and gladly so.) i dont see UFS being able to make any good updates now unless they pull some good devs out of their ass.
fun fact: doors and the other devs are making a new game (their saying their gonna rework ufs)
@@snowy_flakey5404 I see, could be cool but im not gonna get my hopes up, not the first time they restarted making UFS
The new sans is based of an undertale au webcomic called inverted fate, which is a timeline where asriel wins and resets, but messes up, causing him to lose a soul and the 3 main pairings ( toriel and asgore, sans and papyrus , undyne and alphs) to keep their personalities , which causes massive changes. Thats the context
i like how this doesn't even cover the fact half of the devs were horrible people and all the drama that happened Before release lollll
Idc about that
i dont really think this is a "rise and downfall" but definitely a "why did ufs fail?"
good vid tho
since there is alot of "rise and downfall" i had to choose it if i had to get people attention also thx
@@snowy_flakey5404 i been thinking it died i was to busy playing minecraft undertale on roblox
@@Insatiable-saucy what is that
@@waterH20fr i forgor the name
Its sad knowing ujd got no updates since like Christmas and still got more active players...truly the ujd and ulc killer
Whenever outertale sans used a domain expansion it was so bad it overheated the pc
(Prb was a bad idea to have rtx on max graphics)
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Everyone including UFS devs hate Papyruses,and were too lazy to add him a gaster blaster,but uhh ig they had time to add Outer a domain to cosplay Gojo.
I still dont get why they chose to not only lock new characters behind pointless grind, like the thing where you have to farm a specific item by winning matches in order to get Outer, instead of just straight up letting people enjoy the update? And also, this may just be a personal thing, but I don't think Outer and Inverted fate sans are hype enough to release them with an update focused around them. Imagine how we could've gotten FFTBO, SS Chara, Disbelief, or maybe even the second part of the horror event (which imo would be WAY more hype than outer or inverted fate sans ), but they rather just worked on, and released a not only unfinished, but also boring character like Inverted fate sans. It would maaaybe be alright if they weren't the only new characters featured in the new update, but like, they just had us wait for 2 months for the update, just for the update to be a few skins ( that could've been whole ahh characters like you said ), and inverted fate sans ( which I honestly don't think anybody actually cared for at all )
yeah the devs just gave up 💀game is dead
I find the game really fun but your criticisms are 100% valid and I agree they should try and come back and actually add stuff.
I feel like the skins COULD work, if they do it the way ULC does it, adding some new attacks to the skins or possibly a entirely new moveset if possible!
Yo snowey ik im late but what do you think of ulc being down cause of a hacker????????
well am making a video about it and alot of evidence is gonna be shown
@@snowy_flakey5404 thx for the intel! 🚬🗿
im pretty sure the dev team and UFS community kept on harassing another dev because of his underswap model, he made a video about it too
(the person's name is vio, you can find the video at their channel)
i think the problem of UFS was that it was advertised to be such a high quality game that it came out lackluster when it took a good amount of time to come out.. lots of potential and quality, but underbaked in content
which is understandable considering ULC had a multi-year head start compared to the game just releasing a couple of months back, but it was really rough to have all the hype lead into nothing else after so long except for two characters and skins
another important factor was the fact that other than the sans team, the gameplay overall wasn't as exciting as the preview videos made it out to be. ULC just has this fun gameplay loop of trying out new characters and working towards upgrades that make your character considerably better, along with the weapons also all being unique and changing up how games may or may not go. with UFS, although it is rewarding to learn the Sanses, it does get very reptitive as nothing really changes the more you play them. Also the fact that the Chara team in UFS is just way more boring than ULCs makes it so you don't have a lot of fun 3/4ths of the time.
I think its important to mention that having UFS around was still good overall, as with competition came an increase in overall quality of ULC updates for it to become the gold standard SvC game. as a person who stood behind ULC, I can respect the massive amounts of effort that was put into UFS but it is sad to see it not live up to the hype. I was hoping it could be a nice alternative SvC to ULC where you could swap to one while waiting for the other to update, but with the recent news, who knows how the future will be for UFS.
Osso bro make more videos please your updates on everything it's very nice to hear and it helps me decide what to play so please keep up the good work 👍
MOTIVATION RAAAAAAAHHHH
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We were there just for the cool scenes and music on RUclips
still funny how ab STILL has more players than UFS.
AB is a fighting game, both are bad but people see something in roblox fighting games for some reason
No, what's more funny is that the SvC game that's a dead game walking (UJD, hasn't updated since Jan 25th) sometimes has more players than UFS
Altérnate battlegrounds and UFS are 2 completely different genres
Also alternate battlegrounds took over quickly after soulshatters death and is one of the main 2 undertale fighting games
I started this game a couple months ago. Mained Underswap sans (cause he’s fun and I’m not a jerk). He’s fun and it feels great getting combos with him! Was sharply disappointed that my favorite version of sans is both pay to use and pay to win. I’m less frustrated with the skins and more frustrated with the balancing issues. Im still a relatively new player so I do the low level lobbies. You think I’d be safe from overpowered sanses there, right? Naw! Inverted Fate Sans shows up about 1/6 of the time and completely trashes the Chara team every time. Call it a skill issue but he is kinda busted with his range and abilities. I haven’t seen a victory against him once yet, I swear. Another issue is that the menu navigation feels slow, which is an issue given you only have a short time to navigate it and make choices before a new match starts.
6:09 i heavily agree on this what you saying about the skin update
i perfer more fun rather than that crap to be seen!
wow the timing of this video and the announcement on the ufs discord is crazy
FR
i mean it was honestly sad how 2 big developers are retiring because they lost interest, which was sorta the reason why the development was slowing down a lot
Loading screen : "Every Character is no better then the other (HOPEFULLY)" Outer Sans : Nah, I'd unbalance
For the missed opportunity section the devs have stated that skins can be characters as I do believe possession sans is a future character on their radar. The skins are basically just kinda model dumps until their moveset are made for some characters
Well too bad that most likely ain't gonna happen since they added their funeral update, although they have Stated that ssc chara and gaiden aka sudden change sans will be finished,so who knows if alot of players played the game with that update they might still continue updating it
I saw the title and decided to play it, now I’m addicted
Im not surprised that UFS is dying, they were given time to give us characters they were given SO MUCH TIME MAN and it had hyped us so much and just ended up being a flop. The skins should have been just characters if that was so it wouldn't be dead.
Fck UFS owners or whoever made these decisions the devs/concept artists your all good I respect yall for putting up with this.
5:31 actally there ranged special attacks for chara team so that one outer sans move cannot make him save for ranged special attacks tho
@@DustdustSans_Gaming As in the words of a wise man, "You shouldn't be forced to pick something you don't wanna play just to counter someone else " That's the entirety of UFS summarized. Counter picks
@@pretendpasta4796Yea in ulc every weapon can beat the sans although some required skills to do so
I tried playing it and it was just so frustrating to a new player that i quit after around 10 matches. The fact that the "beginner friendly" servers are empty doesnt help at all
you wanna talk about wasted potential with skins and not bring up the ELEPHANT in the room; murder!sans.
not only is bro a skin for DUST!SANS, a character with attacks bro can't even do. but the POTENTIAL.
murder!sans has the classic stuff yk blasters, kr, teleportation, bones, yeah all that
however he also has traps, heals, melee, CHEMICALS, EXPLODING BONES, SENTIENT BLASTERS?? also he can CHANGE HIS ATTACKS EACH LOAD, HE HAS THAT MUCH OPPORTUNITY AND YET THEY DON'T DO A SINGLE THING??
yet inverted fate sans is a character, smh.
Bro great commentary good to see ya upload this vid :) (If u know me then :) )
tbh the reason I quit is because the gameplay loop became way too boring after I was locked into the same 3-4 characters for most of my time playing
I have not played this game for some time and then I came back saw what they cooked with outer and was "wtf is this" now i hear bout the lootboxes and I dont wanna come back.
How was the fall?
Wow! I can’t wait for an actual content based update in 10 years!1!1
As someone that took the time to get the april fools badge and played the game for a while it's disappointed.
Updates are small and looks like they're made in 3 weeks of 4 months, the game got 6k players at the first day, and now usually have +100 less players than ulc.
The skin update was trash, basically what they did in the RNG event but now with less sense than before. Such a same this game was hyped asf and now it's very dead.
Very sad that ULC lost a La jupo event character to a game that only had a good amount of players for like 2 months
Although balancing is a good point, i dont think it would be true to say ULC is balanced. The difference is that getting an op in ULC requires somewhat tedious grinding or an event, while UFS requires you to play for about 10 hours or less and thats it. Also the grand majority of the people who played UFS plays ULC, and another point to be made would be that people simply weren't willing to give up the hours upon hours they spent just to get an op character in ULC, but this is because ULC came out way before UFS did, and the UFS team cant really do anything to combat this except hope that they can push out enough content to convince people to leave ULC behind in favor of UFS, which they definally arent doing at the time
i can agree and disagree with some of the opinions as a dev i can see the criticism but i can also disagree with some of the points in the vid (especially with papyrus exe due to the current drama. Also bonely one will be a character dont worry) but in the end not all updates are good and this one wasnt one of our best by a long shot.
papyrus.exe drama let me guess grooming allegations?
@@snowy_flakey5404 exactly
I’ve been in UFS since the beginning and I can confirm
it sucks
I feel like one of the problems people have with this game And all games for that matter are the need for more content constantly ufs isn't your average game they put so much work into making the visuals look good I mean it took them three years to make this game man, they're doing a great job in my opinion and your right characters like horror sans ruins dust, and especially outer sans are broken and not very balanced but the majority of characters and weapons in this game are balanced plus they aren't just trying to make characters on the go like oh we need a new character lets use this one and we're done, They put multiple future planning for all their characters and the direction they want to go with each one literally every single character has a different map and imagine how hard that is, sure this game has its issues but in my opinion this is one of the best roblox undertale games I don't care what you say about it
glazing is going off the chart here😔😔😔
Bro you make goods points the one I agree is the most slow is the FBS drop with outer Sans they were seriously need to fix that. Fun fact with Xboxes and probably PS4s the FPS drop is so bad even kicks those players.
The fact that the whole game just collapsed now that Door has announced their retirement from it in the Discord Server, I feel like Door was the only one holding the entire game together. The fact that as soon as Door left, they threw in the towel and said, "fuck it, we gamble" by bringing back the RNG Event for people to grind on to somewhat keep the game alive for the little time it has left. Like you said in this video, I'm glad this game is dying. I felt like they were completely relying on Door, and now he's gone, they just gave up. Good riddance, ngl.
Another thing to note on why UFS flopped on release, it heavily alienated itself from other SvC communities with their "Best SvC" hypetrain. When UFS actually dropped a good chunk of the svc community probably went in with negative opinions or just didnt try it at all. Also I personally disliked the "Ufs > Ujd" and "Ulc players when they realize good models wont fix their trash gameplay" messages that can tandomly pop up, its just obnoxious and unnecessarily agressive.
I just want to put my input on the video for a little clarification but also my thoughts, certain things like Flowey Possessed Sans would likely become a character into the future. The same case for Bonely One although he is not going to be a skin (i mean he literally has a skin already that would probably go to him once he's out). I do agree with updates, they should be more consistent that is something I agree with. Although the skin update was disappointing it did introduce the skin system so they could get it out the way but I do think it shouldn't have just been cosmetics and they should've added a little more content to gameplay. One thing I liked about the update was just the new banner system and Inverted Fate is a little nice ig. I wish the best for UFS and I DON'T think it should die😭but the developers could learn from this experience. (Crossbones rework is going to happen)
If they do a Lb sans update like an actually last breath sans and not a skin that shiz might go hard ngl.
The only thing I ever want for this game before it dies, is balancing.
*Fix the sans characters; bad time sans is just running around, fell is the same but worse, outer is unfair even with a good team, US paps is just mad crazy how he can one shot so easily. (science and ts rework when)
*Check the weapons; stick is useless and boring, worn dagger is so broken and simple, the gloves are so bad, spear is so weird as it covers so many roles but does none of them, chaos sabers are broken once you get the timming, notebook is broken and boring.
*PLEASE CHECK ALL SOUL+WEAPON COMBO POTENTIAL, IT'S NOT FAIR TO FIGHT A PATIENCE+SABERS AS A DODGE CHARACTER AND NEITHER IT IS A BRAVERY+DAGGER AS A HP CHARACTER.
A mnha opinião cincera sobre esse jogo é que simplesmente ele é muito bom, tipo não sei por que mais apesar do ULC ter mais conteudo e mais players eu sempre preferi o UFS. No quisito balanceamento tevo reconhecer que alguns são realmente quebrados, tipo dust sans, mais o resto eu diria que é bem balanceado se você realmente jogar bem você consegue derrotar um time experiente e com as melhores armas com os primeiros sans do jogo. Agora no quisito progressão realmente demora um pouco, tipo eu só consegui um celular que conseguisse rodar esse jogo em abril desse ano e só ontem eu consegui maximizar minha conta, em outras palavras pegar os itens mais fortes como alma da determinação, sabres do chaos e asas da hyper morte.
No geral, esse jogo é realmente muito bom e com muita potencial muito desperdiçado tipo os personagens de adm eu reconheço que os personagens de ADM são só os modelos e as abilidades são recicladas, mais cara... ELES TEM O DUST TRUST! Não custava nada adiciona, né? Mesmo que so tenha 10 ou 20 pessoas jogando esse jogo eu vou continuar jogando esse jogo eu só espero que não vacilem na próxima update desse jogo... E nerva o dust, bixo chato de mata.
Observação: desculpe caso tenha alguns erros ortográficos, é isso tenha um otimo dia👍.
Hiyo! Gamekiller! I agree alot actually, Like I really don't wanna be rude or offense but honestly the ULC devs take some time but honestly they add wayyyy more content and stuff for their game compared to UFS not to be rude though.
So UFS has enough game passes to make Blizzard and EA blush
Meanwhile ULC has left 2/3rds of the gamepasses rotting because they aint the focus. Like i know there have recently been teasers of a remodel of Sixbones and Possession Sans, but they left those two to rot for so long I think they decided to kinshift to Alphys and actually decided to hide the amalgams
The game focuses on actual variety and tends to focus their updates towards reworking characters anyone can use as seen by the fact the characters who need remodels are the gamepasses and higher win characters
Honestly i don't understand why people were this hyped about the game in the first place, it had so many issues with the staff and community before the game even came out, and acting like "the ulc killer" when ulc has been out for YEARS and has always been either number 1 or occasionally 2 behind UJD when it updated a lot more
2:45 yeah i have to agree on you there this skin has so much potential and they made it a skin. Bruh
gotta love how the devs were fucking GASING IT UP as the best Chara vs Sans game on roblox, even going as far to post edits on yt about it beating all the other Undertale games in a slightly toxic manner. And yet all it ended up as is O V E R S T IM U L A T I O N at it's mid-est and just becoming another gambling simulator lmao
real
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Outer Sans : DOMAIN EXPANSION
i think the reason why the game has fallen its because of the huge amount of time consuming the game require i mean lets be real i need 75k gold for an armor like why????
If they make epic and legenday skins have especial moves or a total change can make the game more fun how making the storyspin sans being a legendary skin,that man have the most unbalanced moveset,recovering moves,rushing taking for suprise by slipping in a kepchup bottle💀
they forgot about horror event brah they said the part 2 should release in 2 - 3 weeks ITS BEEN 5 MONTHS WHERE IS THE HORROR EVENT RAAAAAHHHHHH