Steiger Quadtrac vs John Deere 9RX Event
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2016
- Case IH invited 10 experienced operators to test and evaluate the Steiger Quadtrac 620 and the new John Deere 9620RX. Following a detailed walk around, they drove each tractor at 5, 6 and 7 mph through tough ground with an Ecolo-Tiger® 875 disc ripper. Check out more information about the test drive, the producers and their reactions to each machine at bit.ly/2apPj3z
Participants were not compensated for their testimonials. Case IH covered travel and accommodations for some participants. ©2016 CNH Industrial America LLC. All rights reserved. Case IH is a trademark registered in the United States and many other countries, owned by or licensed to CNH Industrial N.V., its subsidiaries or affiliates. Any trademark referred to herein, in association with any other goods and/or services of companies other than CNH Industrial America LLC, are the property of those respective companies. 
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I just love all the comments about the validity of the test....you're on the Case marketing RUclips channel.
I watched a Deere video showing their flex draper head vs MacDon's. The test was done in a condition you would almost never encounter in the field to show the MacDon FD's short comings and magnify it.
IT'S MARKETING PEOPLE.
It seems to me that a competitor who sponsors an evaluation of their product would have a predetermined outcome in mind. Call me crazy, but; I believe this is how advertising works.
I worked for Deere for 24 years as a Service Tech Started in the shop worked my up to a master field Tech . I now work for CaseIH , I will call BS on this one , CaseIH is 8 to 10 years behind Deere on everything .. That's why Deere controls the market . I have seen both sides of the fence ..
You’re on crack…. Jd follows case ih for everything. Rotor combines. Quad tracks. Sprayer technology aim. gonna price themselves out of business the way things are now days.
If JD is so great why do you rock the red now
I don’t anymore went back to Green, almost a year ago, Green technology is so much much better for the technicians. Technical support for the dealer technicians is 110% better than Red…
You mean Deere steaks the patent to all the ideas. They leased a Cat Challenger back when Cat made the first rubber tract machine they operated it tested it made a few changes ti the patent and they then produced their own two track. Did the same with their quad track just made couple changes so they could get by with stealing. Same with their rotor combine. Copied patents already in existence. Now claim to fame X 9 twin rotor. Well New Holland was the first twin Rotor. And the Claas Lexion had them both beat
The Rotor Combine was no good Johnny Pop claimed..🤔. All be damned look at em now... There two track tractor was superior to the Quad they claimed. Look at em Now. You can literally go on and on how JD follows the Leader .. Case IH ..
Of course the Deere had worse visibility when it came to the rear hitch because the Deere was equipped with a three point hitch and the case wasn't.
Wouldn't matter, the Deere has a huge hydraulic block
those CaseIH guys driving that 9RX im sure were like "Hell yeah! this is the stuff" LOL
Leather seats too 😍, 2:30.
Leather seats in the case too... lol
They all liked the case more I own all case
Hell yea this RX belongs in the junkyard
I like how they only say bad stuff about JD but if you watch a tractor review in general it's not bias
I would love to see a truly unbiased comparison of these two. They need to get operators who don't own any green or red to run them and then compare.
Kanlife tractortestlab.unl.edu/Case%20IH%20Steiger%20620%20Quad.pdf
tractortestlab.unl.edu/John%20Deere%209620RX.pdf
Here it is. The Case IH did better. The university of Nebraska isn’t biased
Same. I've driven both, and videoed in them both, and how bumpy the footage was in the John Deere was fake.
I've driven both. They both have their positives and negatives. I liked the deere for the cab. It was big and comfy, good radio, the screen and hydraulic controls are far superior to case, even the new afs connect is still a bit iffy compared to GS4.
Quadtrac though was much superior in the paddock (although I went from a 9r to a quadtrac) it can pull like fuck, it rides well and auto tension tracks are awesome, tier 2 is a little droney though and after 12+ hours of hard pulling it gets stressful. Quadtrac has a better seat and visibility much better, better storage, bonnet is easier to open by a long shot.
Basically, if I could put John Deere software in a quadtrac, it would be the perfect tractor.
I grew up with case but I'm also a deer fan I wish that somebody would actually make a non biased video
No shit you can’t see the hitch it has a 3 pt and the Steiger doesn’t lol
We have 3 9260RXs and why don’t we have any of these problems?
You can tell the disc is deeper with the Deere by the weeds left😂 so there’s ur fuel consumption
Johndeere Farmer butthurt Deere fans😂
ruclips.net/video/6BnVPtybv1w/видео.html
John Deere was doing a second pass
I was gonna say the same thing. I'm not a homer for either side but they very easily could have set the one on the Deere to run deeper so it would feel like it has less power and worse fuel economy.
Come Demo those two tractors pulling 870 Rippers in Hartley, Tx. You'd definitely see which tractor is the best. Guarantee it'll be the Quadtrac over and over again, this is some of the hardest and deepest ripping ground in the country. We love our Quad and wouldn't run anything else.
A friend of mine tested one of these new Deere Quads and hated it. He owns an STX550 quad, and that STX outperformed the Deere in every way, and the Deere had more horsepower (supposedly). The Deere doesn't weigh enough, causing it to spin the tracks. Just like they complained in the video, he complained it shook and vibrated the whole time, was rough riding, and visibility (especially to the rear) sucked. He has elected to keep his STX, and that is the right move.
Jonathan Jones I hope you know this video is biased and is based on conviences and theyre also paid to say this.
Last I checked they are both quad tracks
both are very good
What about the versatile deltatrack
Any positive comments on the jd: Quick answer-NO NONE
Why can’t we say all the bad things about a case??
That’s not a fair comparison cause the case quad track does not have a 3 point but the John Deere does
Paid presentation bought to you by case ih
You buy what you like. I own 2 9rx and thay pull a 80' bourgualt with 950 bushel cart. Without a problem, So stop making up nonsense videos
Honest option would be quadtrac beats 9rx in terms of visibility, checking midrollers oil, fuel economy, and ease of entry. 9rx beats quadtrac in drive belt life with bigger drive wheel, midrollers seal reliability, low rpm torque, and riding smoother. I would take the quadtrac over 9rx though just to avoid having egr and a dpf on my engine.
Is it just me or is that they were all on the cases
Case has the horsepower but they will be in the shop more than a deer and as far as ride goes green definitely is better.
Pretty biased, but nobody makes quality stuff anymore, so at this point: pick your poison.
True
"The visibilty of the hitch on the deere is very poor" well no fucking shit you got the damn 3 point blocking it when the case don't even have one
They should do a video in 2020 now that John Deere has had time with the 9rx. The comparison would not even be close.
the mid rollrars a more compacted to put on and take off
3:45 did you roll both tractors over? 🤣🤣
Did anyone expect any positive reviews for John Deere when the producer was case themselves
lol, yes, no kidding🤣
Can never understand the die hard green and red thing, it's like supporting a football team! Although I'm sure the companies in question are very happy to promote the rivalry! I'd choose either all things considered at the time in question. I wonder if the same "must be green, must be red" folks behave similarly towards their automobile choice?
I was thoroughly amazed that "neutral farmers" paid by Case would NOT recommend a John Deere!
JD all the way.
A little butthurt?
@@galsgaardgalsgaard3419 Lol
No kidding, this would be a disgrace to the Case company. I wish they left my opinion, it was fully in John Deere's favor. But they wouldn't include it. I will never buy a Case, Give me a John Deere, and if not that, then I'll go with Fednt.
And yes, this is written by someone who uses 8RX's, 9RX's, and Fednt 1050s all the time.
still, it is a nightmare to change the roller oil in the case.
I go with JD
case ih is the best we have one and belive me is awsome!!!
I believe u
I prefer John Deere for a few reasons but I also own Case because horsepower per dollar is much better with Case in my area.
i saw the people in the case bouncing as well
notice how case is the ones who made the video
The mid rollers are more complicated to put on and take off
The only reason that the 9rx seems wiggly and the hood and fuel tank shakes is because of the cab suspension
It literally saysCaseih.com at the end
case the best :D
so case is saying that the cabine of the 9rx is shitty plastic only ? so why is it proven that john deere has like the best quality standarts in the cab ?
nice spelling
I think you havent seen a fendt yet.
Pink Stalin yeah, that's a load of horse shit. CaseIH has the oddest chrome interior, it's like it came out of an 80s space movie.
Ford Fan01 how is it odd? The only thing chrome in the CaseIH interior is the throttle
Yeah but still the arm just doesn't look right AND not every tractor needs a Left Hand reverser! They are nice for loader work but not nice for field work. They are just confusing.
Guys mabye you should have talked about engine power and shift quality too I'm sure the quad would come out on top there ( sarcasm) cabwise the deere has better storage IMO as a 9r deere owner previous steiger owner I'm not for the two screens inside the cab either or the heavy hood it is a bitch to lift but siriously guys visibility to the drawbar? Take the 3 point hitch of the deere then compare?also the cab again do you like looking around the foot thick cab pillars on the case or the 55 gallon drum exhaust ? Can't see how visibility is better
deere must be rattling cases cage.
THats why it took Deere almost 20 years to a quadtrac to market right?????
To me, Deere was actually smart about that. Quadtracs just tack on who knows how much money to the overall cost of the tractor? No thank you, I'm sticking with wheels from here on out!
It all comes down to what you want fix on johndeere they have been know for there reliably case ih know for there ride its no surprise
You mean to tell me Case IH did a case study..... between its biggest competitor and itself.... and they DIDN'T say Deere was a superior product ??????
Good job CaseIH.
How much did you paid these guys??
Why did you use a Deere 580? The Case was a 620, you should've used a JD 620. I personally like Case, but that wasn't fair to JD.
I am only 12 years old and I like Deere a lot but I think when I grow up I will get a case quadtrac by his video and I have seen other videos where they said that it was the exact opposite of each other
Between the two I would buy the Versatile.
No versatile has 590 horsepower and case 692
@@andreauberti8518 Actually the Versatile has 650hp and the Case has 682hp.
Great thank you for information 😅👍
They choose a 9rx with quick hitch how are you willing to see draw bar with hitch there maybe put it on the case quadtrac let see visibility with quick hitch on the case quadtrac
They all work for Case! I like case but come on
Man I’ve seen videos of how bad the 9rx is and alot of customers here were im at hate jd. can’t pull more than one scraper and cant keep up with the new cvt stieger making pit
The bloke at the end saying the resale value is greater on the case,how does he know that There is fewer 9rx's around at the moment and probably even fewer available used
There is no way I will ever buy a Case IH (actually a CNH) tractor just because of this video. There is no worse advertisement than getting a group of people and paying them to talk trash about competition.
Also, recently I tested John Deere 9RX & RT & 8R & 7R and a Case IH Magnum and I can see why Case made this advertisement. When you can't make a better tractor, then pay people to talk trash about competition, right?
Personally I like the stiegers over the 9R but I'd take the 8R over the magnums. They all have their pros and cons.
I think someone is feeling threatened by there biggest competitor. Every one I have herd from is ready to set there quads on fire because of the idler Pullys who have given case problems since day 1 and they have yet to improve it. I understand the Deere has a few issues to get worked out yet but they seem like they got the first one made pretty good for being new to the 4 trac game
Truth?? Or paid off speeches? Should've thrown Versatile into the mix, and NH with ATI system
Case and Nh are managed by the same company!
am i the only one the wanted vs vs jd 9620 vs case 620???????
So how much did Case pay for this video
One other thing to keep in mind is the Case also has a CVT trans in there Quadtrac, I do not think Deere has that!
John Deere uses IVT.
@@ChrisTessmer and it is way better and more reliable than a shifty cvt.
I mean bouncing around is just a piece of farming. All of the measurements taken to compare were just better preference. I mean if you can’t take the heat then get out of the kitchen. It’s a shame people don’t see how it doesn’t matter how the tractor FEELS, it matters which one has more horse power, and how it works in the field.
Who tells us that this ''customers'' are not payed by Case to play theire role?
You forgot the most important feature. The quadtrac just looks more badass.
Case a master piece John Deere a copy like all ways
Case copied john deere powershift oh wait Bought john deere powershifts for a long time. 7110s and so forth all had rebadged FUNK transmissions.
John Deere since 1837
Case IH since 1985
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tractorman4650 Your comment shows how little you know about the Magnum Powershift. It shares nothing in common with anything that came before it. I would know, I have rebuilt a couple that were abused. They are a completely different animal, designed in house by International Harvester in 1980. IH didn't have the money to go to production, but after the merger with Case, the Magnum was given high priority. Deere copied the Magnum transmission in the late 90's and failed in spectacular fashion causing years of factory recalls and pissed off owners over broken transmissions. Deere also was buying their 4WD tractors from Steiger until Case IH formally purchased Steiger in 1987. When that happened, Deere was left high and dry.
This is kinda biased but I like both companies
finally someone with sense
Classic Farm Equipment The tractor test lab at the university of Nebraska evaluated both tractors. The Case IH actually did end up being better than the deere in several aspects
Facts Case is better JD is a chinese crap with its chiness factories
I'm a big deere man and I have to agree that it is a nightmare trying to hook up any thing on a pivot steer JD.But even worse on a shitty claas.
I’m a die hard IH lover, and even though they brought out a lot of good points of how the IH is better than the John Deere, I will say that this seemed really REALLY fake and biased.
will there ever be a time where both case IH and john Deere fanboys learn that its not the colour of the tractor that makes it great
so set the steering value down on the DEERE and it wouldnt be so shaky,take the god dam quick hitch off & you can see draw bar,and quit setting plow deeper on the DEERE & it would burn less fuel, oh yea, see which one is worth more in 5 years, & last, geee i wonder what case ih expected Mr Johnson to say ???? you cant give case ih shit away in texas
If case was junk then no one would buy it. This is an apples to apples comparison. Deere could make a video like this and you would just eat it up. Dealership networks have alot to do with a persons opinion on equipment. I sure wouldn't want a certain brand if I had to deal with poor service. Be less angry in your comments, it makes you sound like an angry millennial.
Heath Goodloe 1) why should the customer have to adjust a valve to make the tractor less shaky. 2) you have a point there. 3) at the Nebraska tractor test the Steiger 620 proved to put more power to the ground with more pull and less fuel burned than the Deere 620. Also on an unrelated note in our area a used Deere 620rx costs 720000 Canadian while a 620 quadtrac costs 580000, same options. I would much rather buy the better tractor for 140000 less money.
hehe that's what I said
Amen to this guy he knows what's up screw case
So true man. You can't give them away in Kansas either. About all you see is green or blue. I will personally NEVER go to a Case but I might try a New Holland one day.
Case quadtrac is the brute
Say what you want but case been around longer than deer
Reading the comment section i cant believe grown men arguing like 10 year old kids "no this is better" no that tractor is worse because on my farm we run this and that i swear that my niece at age 11 and 8 acts better. It’s good to have both brands pushing eachother - both have their benefits, must be sad to be a company owner and see all the negativitiy in something you have Pride in.
I can't say the hood on the John Deere's is very very heavy and they dont ride as smooth, from a service point the deere wins, compair changing a bogey wheel and you will see. 4 hours for the case 1 hour for the deere.
The quadtrac has been around for decades... the 9rx has literally been around for like 4 years 😂, give deere a change.
Why can't they have an experiment with people who never farmed and they are only told how to run the tractor. Because they are so bias
They Kno they're not guaranteed the win that way
This was like watching a Chevy truck commercial.
Case IH must be really scared of JD......Why else make videos like this
JD has been doing it too... In fact, they all have and still are.
the 9rx cant even pull a quadtrac
We've essentially pulled rippers apart with how deep and hard we run em. Deere's 9RX wouldn't hold a
Candle. Please come do a demo out here behind some silage ground.
How can it hold a candle?????
I'm sure the Howard's there in Hartley would let you take one of theirs out for a spin
Actually cnh Owens Miller so yes they do make there own front boom sprayer and yes it took deer only 20 years to develope a quad machine and yes case ih was the first for a rotor in a combine . So deere has a great marketing team to make the public believe a lot of bull shit
at least case uses a cummins engine and not made from melted pot metal like jd
You must not know how patients work huh? It didnt take 20 years. They weren't allowed to
@@sterlingspivey5812
U just can't see that they are the toughest engines out
I wish I could drive the Deere just to compare.
the video compares it for ya you can see wat one shakes vs the one that don't
of course the video is going to show the deere is worse. ive drove both of them and they have very similar ride quality and the deere cab is waaay nicer and quiter
how is the video gonna make the deere look like it rides worse than the case?????
Crazy Trucker i dont know, you said the video compares it not me
No lol i thought you ment that they purposly made the video look worse in the deere than the case. In the video you can see that the camera shakes more in the deere tho that's all im sayin
Nice try CIH. Nothing like bringing in the hardest core red guys you could find. Unbiased my ass when they have CIH shirts and hats on. Turning radius was very little if any different. You created an optical illusion by letting the red one make a full circle first. Can't see the hitch on the deere? Well no shit the 3 point is in the way. Funny how the red one didn't have a 3 point. When you come back with equally equipped machines, unbiased operators and no camera trickery let us know. Having to cheat to make your product appear superior tells me that it's in fact inferior.
I think you're rattled.
thought the same thing about the 3pt.
Right, if u look at the field they aren't on the same part of the field, I think they forgot a subtitle/disclaimer "All participants were told to wear CIH apparel, say Case was the better!" Like if u agree or u like Farming or like Farming simulator 15 or 17
+Alex Buss I can't wait for Farming Simulator 17!
+JRobbin3 do u play on pc or console?
Then along comes Fendt. Seriously if Fendt ever starts importing to the US John Deere AND Case will have to step up their game
And yet John Deere cannot build these 9RX's fast enough to keep up with orders; given this Ag economy that's making a huge statement. Case gained many customers because they could offer a 4-track that nobody else could; and those same customers are lining up to trade in their quadtrac to get back into a Deere. Deere dealers will have a serious problem with used quadtracs on their lots if they are not smart about trades. Also Case dug themselves a nice hole by creating a massive used inventory of quadtracs because they basically give them away and they screwed themselves by offering cheap short term leases. My prediction is their owner Fiat, is going to have to not only bail out Case IH but also their largest dealer Titan because their flagship tractor has competition now. The silver lining, if you are heart set on a quadtrac, there is going to be many CHEAP low our quads being wholesaled over the next 3 years.
I just think WHY they want to trade. If they had a nice experience with the Quadtrac, they probably would have switched over to Case. Just shows the reliability that John Deere has.
A friend of mine tested one of these new Deere Quads and hated it. He owns an STX550 quad, and that STX outperformed the Deere in every way, and the Deere had more horsepower (supposedly). The Deere doesn't weigh enough, causing it to spin the tracks. Just like they complained in the video, he complained it shook and vibrated the whole time, was rough riding, and visibility (especially to the rear) sucked. He has elected to keep his STX, and that is the right move.
Farmer Bell- Deere has a very good PR team. However, in my area people are leaving Deere and getting Case IH and even Fendts and Massey's because of Deere and its unwillingness to support the customer after the sale. I see far more Kinze and Case IH planters being pulled by R series Deere's than Deere planters too. Deere plays it safe, and lets other companies like Case IH, Fendt, etc. develop the new technology, take the risks, and once its proven it works, Deere copies it and then tries to claim they developed it first. They make an okay product, but its just that, okay and outdated.
I have run case all my life and I love case but John Deere does have a little better fuel economy but I like them both the same
Jd all the way
Why did you Case ih have to do this it’s not that fair because your case ih and why didn’t you and John Deere try out each other’s
Sounds like case is jealous bc all the areas they use it can be adjusted to do so... like steering sensitivity
People also need to realize Case was the first one to come up with this tractor style John Deere and New Holland copied Case think about it. Case designed that style of tractor but other copied so they could take the credit.
What did you want everyone to do? They couldn't build them before this point because of patients and hilarious your a red guy but you call out its partner, the only reason they still make red lol
Cab exclusives wins.
Bunch of bull
I know a couple brothers that forever about 5,000 acres in the state of Illinois John Deere Green blood running through their veins they had a John Deere track tracker two years ago they bought the new case international track tractor they say they have no regrets whatsoever much more Superior tractor for what they need I was surprised cuz he's guys John Deere all the way
case is best
yea those Vietnamese motors really to put the cherry on top don't they.
How do you know??????
Who would of thought red tractor guys like the red tractor!! hitch where is the 3point hitch on the ih? Ih must b worried about deere new tractor!!!
Their just lucky they got through all the trials without the John Deere bursting into flames. "Nothing Burns Like A Deere."
case and kubotas are the greatest feul enfishiond and most reliable brand then deere/ newholland
Did you get that from a joke book???
Just so you know CaseIH, John Deere hasn't been bought out because of bankruptcy and they also don't lie to there customers, nice try, but no cigar.
Well these were paid
you complain on rear Deere visibility? comparing JD RX with 3-point hitch against case with no hitch at the rear? have you ever compared the quality of cab components, ergonomics, own precission farmining tools, telematics? 2 monitors? really? you can do everyting using just one command center... you have to try better. There is one more trick to show the ”quality of ride” in case tractor when going smooth along the field and Deere tractor going across the field on bumpy soil.
you know they are lying when they say that some feature is "By Far" superior on their tractor. anything this similar will always be just slightly better or worse and not by far or completely.
Case most probably just hired does guys to say that. They most probably didn't even farm and didn't even call the tractors by their proper names, they called them the red and green tractor those lads where paid to say that by Case. When they said that when they drove the John Deere 9620RX that it was bumpyer while driving because they most probably put it on way rougher ground and put the Case on very smooth ground. And John Deere tractors are told to have the best cab and bonnet material. The John Deere 9RX is 1,000 times better than the Case Quadtrac.
I'm not a CaseIH fanboy, but Deere is losing it in all areas of farm equipment. The John Deere products are not as good as they once used to be, the support from the Deere dealers is almost non existent, and Deere seems to be in love with the concept of mega dealers owning 10 or more stores. The John Deere that we all once loved has turned into a company that absolutely does not care about the end user anymore. I have bled green my whole life but I have now realized that my blood is both red and blue. Keep up the good work CASEIH and make sure you support the dealers so that they will support the customers. CaseIH has the ability to dominate the farm equipment market. The equipment is no better than the dealer that stands behind it!
Do I need to start naming red mega dealers?
Yup, definitely rattled.
I wouldn't say that look at the new John Deere 1775nt exact emerge planter I know it's off topic but I would say Deere is staying in neutral at this time period
I am just glad to see all these JD supporters watching the CASE IH videos. I think that speaks volumes!
I had a CASE IH salesman tell me that he could sell out his current inventory of new and used red combines IF he could find buyers for all the green trade-ins. True story.
In my area (eastern AR) people are getting real tired of the lack of support from the mega JD dealer (27 stores). These mega JD dealers believe that they have the market wrapped up, I think they will find that the market is changing.
+SHW372 As I said earlier do I need to start naming off mega CNH stores? You act like they don't have any.