LOL, this is the era I was farming in... 78 we switched from a 915 to New Holland for the twin rotors, seed business, made all the difference... We ran a TR70 then a TR85 but back to IH in 80,,, Dealer support... I farmed through to a 2588... Simple amazing machines!!!
CIH Selling grain quality and that's it, nothing else was better. A good operator could dial in the deere to get close. CIH had them beat there but a lot of other things weren't. Both dealer lots had plenty of opposition color, i personality know of several guys all red with green machine and vise versa. It took some art and skill to dial in the JD, that was their issue, guys got frustrated in adverse conditions while the CIA performed better. As far as machine threshing capacity, CIA matched the 9600 16 years later with the 7000 series
It was the spider web of belts and chains with pulleys everywhere for me.. dad ran deeres and got along with them pretty well.. just a nightmare to service or work on. Fell on love the early rotors for that reason..
Some of what they say is true but when they started bragging about their cab I almost puked. Deere is and always has been the leader for operator comfort in all lines of equipment
The Gleason was a international product witg the Grey red and white colors Gleason lexeon but that's when case went a different direction from international
Looking from the outside, I always see the rivalry between green & red guys. I know this applies to other examples, too, like Ford vs. Chevy. If one was better than the other, why are both companies still in business is my thought?
The only thing they don't want to admit is, the CASEIH could not combine wheat or small grains with weeds in the field. The conventional style of the deere could handle the weeds and work through those fields without plugging. Secondly, the deere can be set to clean the grain better than the CASEIH and throw less out the back of the machine. I should know because I ran a lot of 9600 combines from 92-97. The 9000 series had suspension seats comparable to the John Deere 8000 series tractors. The real truth is, neither combine had a major advantage over the other no matter what they say
Good point, however the gleaner r series takes the cake for chewing through weeds. IH for clean grain. Gleaner for organic/high weed content. John deere for parking in a hedgerow with a motor full of water.
You are so wrong we run iH since 1982 on the wheat run and over the years I have had countless number of johndeere guy tell me how they just can't get there depressed to do has good of job has our rotory are doing i have had more than one deere cutter tell me they get it close and then just don't look in the grain tank or on the ground so I ask why do you stay with the john deer they all said the same thing because deer had a better finance program that was the only reason they run john deer it had nothing to do with the jobs it did because they knew iH was better it because johndeere made it easier to buy them.
@@snowman5609 like I said at the end of my comments, no manufacturer had an advantage over the other until John Deere came out with the X9 1100. The AF11 was the first time CASEIH had a major advantage over John Deere. You may think otherwise, but unless you know the facts, your bias is just one sided
Now wait a minute.. I thought Johnny Pop's statement years ago the rotor combine was no good. And then here they came with one... Oh and there Two track tractor claim was Superior to the Qaudtrack tractor.. We see how that ended up.. Nothing runs like a Juan Deere when they copy everyone else.. ✌️
It interesting that deer said they would not come out with a rotor combine . We asked the deer dealer when red came out with there rotor. I would not buy a deer
Deere has way better Straw Quality !!!!! 😂😂😂 the Bales would hold together as a 13 year old Grunt in the 90’S I can testify 😂😂😂😂 Red one had a Cooler sound!!! 😂
that's simply due to the design, rotary combines naturally broke the straw up more which is what we wanted because we don't bale the straw, however if you can get it baled out of a rotary machine the bales spread a lot nicer than the longer stem.
LOL, this is the era I was farming in... 78 we switched from a 915 to New Holland for the twin rotors, seed business, made all the difference... We ran a TR70 then a TR85 but back to IH in 80,,, Dealer support... I farmed through to a 2588... Simple amazing machines!!!
My cousin and I affectionately called those JD combines "Minimizers" when they came out as a dig 😂
You can always tell who owns a Red Combine. Volunteer Corn speaks for itself
Because the corn didn't get ground up , like the green does lol
This guy makes a good case!
Saw many farmers go red but always went back green. Unless went to gleaner. The best
I had this tape as a kid!
Quite a few of these guys were in the Waverly, Iowa area. Customers of Smith International, INC.
I bought a 1480 from there in 2005. Great guys, loved the 1480
As soon as the sun set the Axial flow shut down......the 9600 soldiered on late into the night.
and all the grain was ground to powder and never found lol
The rotary made up for it during the day
👏👏🇧🇷
CIH Selling grain quality and that's it, nothing else was better. A good operator could dial in the deere to get close. CIH had them beat there but a lot of other things weren't. Both dealer lots had plenty of opposition color, i personality know of several guys all red with green machine and vise versa. It took some art and skill to dial in the JD, that was their issue, guys got frustrated in adverse conditions while the CIA performed better. As far as machine threshing capacity, CIA matched the 9600 16 years later with the 7000 series
It was the spider web of belts and chains with pulleys everywhere for me.. dad ran deeres and got along with them pretty well.. just a nightmare to service or work on. Fell on love the early rotors for that reason..
Deere ended up copying the the red machine so I’m think the red combine is the better one of the two
Actually the new deeres resemble the twin rotor new holland
Some of what they say is true but when they started bragging about their cab I almost puked. Deere is and always has been the leader for operator comfort in all lines of equipment
I thought the original idea of the machine was to maximize production as efficiently as possible, not a luxurious cruise.
The Gleason was a international product witg the Grey red and white colors Gleason lexeon but that's when case went a different direction from international
Never seen a deere with a snapped rear axle!!
Go to a salvage yard they have a demand for 6620 and 9400 and 9500 if the rear axle is still in tact
Neighbor had a case ih back in the day with a snapped axle. They switched to Deere after that
Looking from the outside, I always see the rivalry between green & red guys. I know this applies to other examples, too, like Ford vs. Chevy. If one was better than the other, why are both companies still in business is my thought?
Now let's compare to an equivalent GLEANER combine.
The only thing they don't want to admit is, the CASEIH could not combine wheat or small grains with weeds in the field. The conventional style of the deere could handle the weeds and work through those fields without plugging. Secondly, the deere can be set to clean the grain better than the CASEIH and throw less out the back of the machine. I should know because I ran a lot of 9600 combines from 92-97. The 9000 series had suspension seats comparable to the John Deere 8000 series tractors. The real truth is, neither combine had a major advantage over the other no matter what they say
Good point, however the gleaner r series takes the cake for chewing through weeds. IH for clean grain. Gleaner for organic/high weed content. John deere for parking in a hedgerow with a motor full of water.
You are so wrong we run iH since 1982 on the wheat run and over the years I have had countless number of johndeere guy tell me how they just can't get there depressed to do has good of job has our rotory are doing i have had more than one deere cutter tell me they get it close and then just don't look in the grain tank or on the ground so I ask why do you stay with the john deer they all said the same thing because deer had a better finance program that was the only reason they run john deer it had nothing to do with the jobs it did because they knew iH was better it because johndeere made it easier to buy them.
@@snowman5609 like I said at the end of my comments, no manufacturer had an advantage over the other until John Deere came out with the X9 1100. The AF11 was the first time CASEIH had a major advantage over John Deere. You may think otherwise, but unless you know the facts, your bias is just one sided
@@froggienm71
Now wait a minute.. I thought Johnny Pop's statement years ago the rotor combine was no good. And then here they came with one... Oh and there Two track tractor claim was Superior to the Qaudtrack tractor.. We see how that ended up.. Nothing runs like a Juan Deere when they copy everyone else.. ✌️
It interesting that deer said they would not come out with a rotor combine . We asked the deer dealer when red came out with there rotor. I would not buy a deer
Dealer: which is better; Case or Deere?
Me: *NONE OF THEM!*
Dealer: why? What brand do you recommend?
Me: “GLEANER”
Id rather pick the crops by hand
None of the machines compare to a New Idea UNI System!
In otherwords bigger is never better
I've worked on my combine and one of these and I probably would rather work on my jd
Deere has way better Straw Quality !!!!! 😂😂😂 the Bales would hold together as a 13 year old Grunt in the 90’S I can testify 😂😂😂😂 Red one had a Cooler sound!!! 😂
that's simply due to the design, rotary combines naturally broke the straw up more which is what we wanted because we don't bale the straw, however if you can get it baled out of a rotary machine the bales spread a lot nicer than the longer stem.
@@jlkkauffman7942 Yes I KNOW
What had a cooler sound the engine?
The Gleaner R70 would kill both.
This is a John Deere vs caseIH combine not gleaner
So he is right in my opinion @@TRUMP2024-m1y
Should forget both and buy a Gleaner.
The maximizers have way more capacity too