As a farmer, I rely on my 4x4 Ute to pick up farming supplies. I don't think a Tesla would cut it carrying a ton of fertiliser and drive the dirt roads around here. It's becoming an absolute joke. If our poo was worth anything they'd tax our bumholes. Fully support you guys, another great video 😤
tell it to Klaus Schwab, Yuval Harrari and Bill Gates ... They are the leaders of the doomsday cult of climate change and they hate all people. They call us useless eaters and bill Gates is preaching over decade for exterminating 90% of the worlds population. They don't want us doing better
I respect farmers, it's a hard job and your lucky to break even but with our you we wouldn't have fresh produce on our plates. I used to be a game keeper in my spare time and builder for my full time job. I got out of the building trade due to the price of materials going up and the price of the jobs going down to a point of it wasn't profitable to renew my gas licence. I'm glad I got out of it when I did and now I'm a truck driver,more money and less stress. I own a ford ranger coz I live away from home in the truck and have a weeks worth of gear to carry coz I have to dekit every week. I don't have enough space with out taking stuff out to go shopping etc. My family lives in the country down some roads that you need 4wd to get down especially in the winter or when it's been raining.
I had a vw tiguan before and that's a big boot space. I still had to put stuff on the back seat and take it out when I got home so I can get the dog in and the shopping (the boot was rammed full) and damaging the interior. I don't think the cube boot space is any bigger.
These will be the same people thinking we don’t need farms because we get our food from the supermarket. Maybe these people should come out to the country and drive there small cars on the roads. They’ll be paying for new tyres every week. The roads where I live have been ruined by the floods the last 3 years and haven’t been fixed due to costing to much money and being out in the country. Keep up the great work team
Yet these roads were built on far less money with far less registered vehicles.. now where is all the money going from registration? Certainly not on the riads
@@KrisH-mc8hd I can't fathom people wanting to live in human sewers that are cities let alone anything they could possibly do to induce me and many others to live in one. These people are out of their freaking minds. If they want to round up and cage people like animals they should expect to be bitten. They would have better results trying to herd cats.
When Scott Morrison said a couple of years ago "change over from fuel to ev, wont effect current fuel car owners" I said to the Mrs, you watch, they'll price us out of our cars with high rego, high fuel prices, high insurance ect...we've seen all of that.
@@Ktmfan450 I know how reality works and grew up around politicians my whole life plus I never said the next government (Albanese) wouldn't try the same
Yeah blind Freddy can see how they’ll try and achieve it. Morrison was thrown out and the climate natzi’s have entered the chat with their nation destroying policies.
As a tradesman, if my rego goes up, I'm just going to past the cost on to my customers. Is that fair to my customers? No, but as a business i need to if i wanna keep operating. Its cost of living going up for no reason.
If it's a work vehicle, whatever the extra cost would be if it ever happens will just go into your tax return and be written off as a work expense, so there's no need to charge your clients extra, and how much extra would you charge each client, $1, $5, $200 this type of comment makes no sense, if rego does go up, I will just be addint it to all my other costs of running my business and claim it back from the gov't as they increased the price, simple as that, no need to punish my clients for this.
so if your rego goes up from say 800 to 1100 you gonna charge the next 40 customers an extra 400 bucks each? because if you just added an extra 10 bucks per job to account for rego no customer would even notice, but we all know your tax return will cover that anyway
It's called overheads if you don't pass these costs on to your customers you won't survive as a business... It's no wonder so many businesses go under in Australia when they believe they don't have to pass on overhead costs.
I’m a tradie and I can remember when I was an apprentice I thought it was a good idea to grab 15 bags of concrete and put them in the boot of my Honda Accord……I’ve never felt more unsafe in a car in my life…..the Titanic would have steered better. In the cars defence I’m sure the 18 year old suspension was not up to the task. Since then maturity has improved and I wouldn’t think twice about that kind of weight, especially tools going into a smaller car. Tradies need the bigger cars to safely carry our tools around. Keep up the great work with the channel fellas! Love your work!
That's funny because I put the same amount of concrete (15 x 20kg = 300kg) in the back of a Toyota Prius in the upper Blue Mountains one time to see what would happen. It actually managed to get up the hill ok, but I could tell the car was complaining! But yeah, they call them Utes because they are useful. Nothing more useful than a Ute.
These will be the same people thinking we don’t need farms because we get our food from the supermarket. Maybe these people should come out to the country and drive there small cars on the roads. They’ll be paying for new tyres every week. Keep up the great work team xxxx
They want us to think these people are dumb city folk but that's not the case. This is happening all around the world, this is part of a bigger operation think if u were running a military u need to stop reliable engines and 4wd as they are capable and threat to revolution sounds crazy but true.
People in the city are pissed off because they can’t find a parking spot in the morning, because construction workers have been working already since 5:30 to build the houses for them, so yeah… take the tram I guess.
G-day gents , I drive a a-double semi trailer in Sydney bringing everything of the wharf so everyone can go down to the local shop and buy what every they want when they want it. I drive a duel cab Ute to and from work and use it to row my boat to a waterway and take the family fishing . I get the kids are off electronics and out in the outdoor enjoying life. The biggest problem is that people aren’t taught how to drive in a safe manner with a boat , trailer , caravan or even a car trailer and that there a lot of people don’t know how to load a car trailer . I teach my kids how to back a trailer as I was taught by my parents when I learnt to drive. Love the show keep up to the good work
I am an apprentice linesman from south west qld. While I was away for training in Ipswich I came across a twin steer dump truck that had broken down on a steeper hill blocking an intersection. The number or little city cars backed up and honking the horns and going off at the Truckie was appalling. I took it upon myself to self to do a uturn and try help the poor Bugga. Because I own a 4x4 I was able to drop it in low range and tow the 24t truck up the hill to the nearest safe spot. Now let’s see a Yaris or Tesla do that. Love the content guys. Keep it coming.!!
I am a real estate agent in a suburban coastal area of SE qld, I don't drive a European sports car however, I drive a 2015 MQ triton. Many think this is stupid... But...This means I can offer styling and staging of their when I go to sell it, rubbish removal when they need it or to remove that table and pot plants that they left without needing... It offers me a point of difference in a competitive industry. Utes and large vehicle are needed in the world and we should not be taxed for wanting the ability to help others. I do not charge for tip runs or styling or any other use for the use...Having a ute is so useful even for a "desk job" like being an agent... And it means I can help the community and get away on weekends, away from the crowds and phone ringing when I need down time. I don't feel it's right that I should be taxed for having the ability to help out friends, family and clients when other agents are running around in 100k+ sports cars.
-1,000 Australia socialist credit points for driving a Hilux or Ranger and not voting for Labor from Jan 2025 🎪🇦🇺 [also heard Albo plans to deduct 500 Australia socialist credit points if you don’t support Souths 🏉 in the NRL 🤷]
Where in the story does it say this is a government proposal, they don't name the individuals who are making this submission, they say a group of experts , sounds like a lobby group Lobbying the government to make changes. I could get a group of experts to propose the banning of beer , doesn't mean the government will do it.
Remember when they put a higher tax on cars that are imported to make people buy Australian made cars, now we don’t have Australian made cars but the tax is still there haven’t changed it back
That's the story of the Australian government. They form a narrative, convincing people that what they're doing is for the benefit of the people or the economy. Little by little, Australia has gotten more regulated, controlled, and expensive. What's scary is that once the government has this control or new wealth, there's no giving it back..
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 no many years ago may have been about the Paul Keating maybe, the government was handing money over to Holden ford and Toyota to keep building cars here in Australia they also up the the tax on imported cars to persuade Australians to buy Australian built cars
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 I think the Luxury car tax is a seperate tax, we always paid the import tax they put it up higher to discourage people from buying cars built overseas as well as paying car makers in Australia Holden Ford Toyota millions of dollars to keep building cars in Australia. I’m going off my memory bank 😂 which isn’t always 100%
I just recently got my first 4x4 last year (Ranger Wildtrak), it has got to be the best car I've ever owned. I can literally do anything with it - take it off road, go shopping, school runs, tow trailers and boats. But most importantly what I love about my ranger is that I no longer need to worry about pot holes anymore. Simply just dont even notice them anymore. Victorian roads are so sh!t and around my area vicroads are forever just patching the pot holes made by trucks.
Wife has a skoda superb and in the last 3 years pot holes have cracked 2 rims. At $1400 a pop each thats quite expensive considering vicroads are suppose to "maintain" the roads... A 4x4 dual cab just seems like a practical solution for most people and even families these days. The govt just want more money because we are one of the most indebted nations in the world.
@@NickClemont9999 whats the rim size and tyre profile? these days as a mechanic you see it a lot on newer cars with almost no sidewall. still though, you are correct, the roads are maintained like dogs bollocks. the melba highway is a disgrace.
@@1mNotoriousTGfunniest thing about that is they really aren’t an ev car cause so much pollution in the making of the battery and they don’t actually end up being eco friendly until the end of the cars life and a battery of an ev car cost almost as much as one of the cars themself to make them for all the minerals they take out of the earth to make the battery 🤷🏼
Yes they actually get charged per klm in South Australia and Victoria, so is that fair enough? And dam these other comments shows that you watch to much sky news 😂😂
I'm already paying much more registration for my 850kg Sierra, because it's classification was changed due to no seatbelts in the back. It's now a touring utility. So my little zook costs the same to rego as my 3.6t patrol ute. They really do their best to strip all your cash, it's all it's about.
Yeah, your Patrol is not 3.6 tonnes. Maybe gross, but not kerb weight which is the weight you're stating for your zook. Otherwise you're looking at about 1.38 tonnes for your zook gross for a fair comparison.
@JohnSmith-nz4bn I have weighed both my cars mate. 3.6t in the patrol with just fridges in the canopy, and the suzuki was 950kg with me in it, I weigh 100kg. But hey, feel free to come watch me weigh it again.
I just watched this and as a truck driver and someone who at the moment me and the wifey go camping 2-3 times a year It took me a long time to get my 2009 pathfinder and Jayco van to do what we have wanted to do for a long time, get back to nature and enjoy, keep up the good fight you have our full support.
That is funny when they say large cars are damaging roads. As a civil engineer I design roads very often and the determining factor for the thickness of the road pavement is semi trailer trucks and above, not small vehicles. Ute’s and other cars aren’t even taken into consideration for the design of the pavement.
Rego has nothing to do with roads construction or maintenance. Rego partially funds the government department that manages the system of rego. They have offices and computers and furniture and staff that get paid to go to work each day.
-1,000 Australia socialist credit points for driving a Hilux or Ranger and not voting for Labor from Jan 2025 🎪🇦🇺 [also heard Albo plans to deduct 500 Australia socialist credit points if you don’t support Souths 🏉 in the NRL 🤷]
The government stuffed up many years ago not helping Holden and Ford stay a float. They needed to keep these two companies building cars in this country. They should have taxed people less rates to buy these vehicles and made all government cars either Holden or ford. Myself as a Tradie would much prefer to operate out of comfortable Aussie ute. Now they want to charge us more tax for buying the next best thing a 4x4 ute.
I’m sick of being trodden on ! I am only one of the few that speak up and actually contact politicians. As usual, your show brings these issues to our attention and everyone needs to speak up. I’m disappointed you boys never mention these politicians and lobbyist groups by name and put links in to contact them ?? Surely viewers would be more likely to actually do something about it. And the ones that do nothing need a kick in the ass with those boots 🇦🇺
Most people are too stupid to understand the working of politics. They complain endlessly about the end result if it effects them directly but dont understand about lobbying is what causes these nefarious agendas. All politicians do is lie endlessly on behalf of their lobbyists and all everyone wants to do is argue the validity of the lies rather than deal with the root issue.
Absolutely ludicrous that this is even being considered. Thanks to you boys getting the word out there. I’m a young bloke who works in a small county earthworks business and I rely on all types of heavy machinery and my own Hilux to live. Let’s get the word out there and protect of jobs/lives.
Federal Government excise is 42 cents per litre + 10% GST on the approximate $2.00 per litre sale price - so roughly 60 cents + 3x3 road levy and other state based taxes in New South Wales - so fuel tax is way more than most people think
@Gdsamplify a smaller vehicle won't fit all my tools in a manner which is organised. I'm at my weight limit. Toolboxes on the back allow secure storage. I also won't look professional turning up in a nissan micra. If you've ever driven on wet clay construction sites, you would understand the need for a 4x4 with mud tyres.
Can only speak on behalf of what’s happened in Victoria. But a lot of companies/councils just buy bulk dual cabs for their fleet as a tax write off and hardly any of them are actually used by the tradies to carry tools or trailers around. Mostly used by the foreman, engineers, managers etc. maybe introduce different registration rates between commercial and personal.
Australia where foot paths are wider then the roads in the city. Not to mention that we are also paying nearly 50c tax for every $1 of fuel we put into vehicles.
Thanks for bringing this topic up and as a tradie myself getting some credit for the hard shit days at work that some people don't know tradies put up with! You blokes speak sense! Legends!!!
Massive reversal in NZ thinking with our new gvmt, and thank God! Road user charges for all EVs (currently getting away with $0 road maintenance taxes), and a realisation that actually - the farmers and tradies of our country NEED these vehicles to do their job - just like their office-space equivalents need their $$$/sq M office spaces. Covid kinda sorted out who runs the country..farmers and tradies or your office-space techy...?? You guys are doing the Good Work. Keep it up!
Thanks guys couldn't agree more! I'm an apprentice chipy so my wage isn't through the roof, but I simply need a bigger car I've got a 6km unsealed driveway, I tow a trailers and carry materials on my roof. It just doesn't seam fair.
My ute purchase for work took away my need for a trailer. So now I use less fuel, now only one car space, my length on the road is nearly halved and it's now safer for me and others.
Good discussion gents. Having immigrated from South Africa many years ago to Aus. You quickly notice that 4WDing, touring, caravaning, boating and experiencing the off roads in nature, is part of the Australian culture. It's amazing to see humans LIVIN life to the fullest. Why would anyone want to deter livin? They should be encouraging it and making it easier to access. Blows my mind 🤔
Lads! So glad to see you guys getting this info out. I'm a chippy and there is no way I can't not have a Ute to tow the 10's of thousands of tools to site each day to build australia! I really think we need to get onto a petition and getting a letter draft written up that we can get out to the 4wd community to then send to our local MP's! Cheers Lads! Love the work over the years and too see where you guys are at now after all the hours and work and I'm sure a bit of fun is great to see!
Love that you guys are actually putting the foot down on things like this as well as track closures! In SE Vic were seeing so many 'seasonal closure' gates get closed and never reopened, and they're starting to say that they're closing them for aboriginal heritage. I fully respect the aboriginal people, and have several friends in that community but its not them that want us locked out! They dont want to spend the money maintaining tracks so they find an excuse to close them. Examples are Davies Plain Track, Ingeegoodbee Track, McFarlane Flat Track, Cobberas Track and plenty more! Beautiful, very remote areas that we all should be able to visit as Australians! "For we are ONE and free"
Exactly what was told to me about the closed tracks in NSW only late last year. They don't have money to keep maintaining them after getting rutted out and damaged.
Best beers in the shed ever.. I’m sending this viral.. you guys make great points and everything you said is true.. and we are losing our rights and thing will change and not for the good of 4x4 drivers.. it’s just a matter of when.. ps.. need some new boots too would be great.. I’m a Trucker..!!
My present duelcab hilux sr5 is an important link to my late grandfather. It was the only car I owned he enjoyed being in. I don't want to be taxed out of this memory of him. Vehicles are not just a pile of metal and plastic. Some hold important memories of lost loved ones.
Thanks for the info, boys. As always, you have your fingers on the pulse. If there is anything we can sign to try and stop another crazy tax scheme from the government, please let us know. Well done on the show. Crossy. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You boys are spot on. I rekon we give these city slickers a crack at driving down some country roads at night in there Toyota Yaris and watch em sweat. But this is seriously a problem that must be addressed you fellas doing gods work sharing this issue kudos.
Good show guys. Here in the UK bull bars are banned! So let that be a lesson, do everything you can to stop the rego increase. Give "them" an inch and they'll take a mile.
@@Ktmfan450Deer.. RSPCA research indicates up-to 74,000 deer are involved in road traffic collisions each year in the UK.. Plus a lot of UK lads go through the Euro-tunnel unsurprisingly to Europe where the have bigger animals like moose etc.. if you don’t know deer are like Roo’s they like playing chicken with cars..
@@paulschofield985 Biggest difference between hitting a Roo and hitting a deer, A roo is not as tall as a deer and tend to go under the car. A deer is on 4 tall legs and that's what you hit when you collide with them, then their body rolls up onto the bonnet/hood and into the windscreen. Problem is when the deer starts kicking as it's still caught through the windscreen glass.
@@Ktmfan450 I have driven in the UK late at night and passed an 8 foot deer just standing on the side of the road, we were doing 70MPH, my blood ran cold, it could have been game over. Far more pedestrians in UK tho
Awesome video as always 4WD 24/7 Crew. 2024 is going to be a epic adventure can't wait to see all the new adventures y'all got in store for this year. Especially Graham's off grid series. Thanks for letting us ride along with y'all on y'all's adventures.
I'm about to start an apprenticeship in WA and I think a fresh pair of boots will do me great, I've been watching your guys videos forever. keep up the good work!!
You are right, If our rego fees are going to roads, then the government must have built a Yellow Brick Road.................. Somewhere.... Roads around me are like driving on cobblestone, between the potholes and the over-filled potholes. If I ever need to shake cans of paint I can just chuck them in the back and go for a 3 minute drive, faster mixer than a paint store.
The roads around where i live there are trailers with broken axels in the table drains, broken draw bars, sheered wheel studs. How can they say our roads are safe if your well looked after gear fails from poor road conditions
How friggin ridiculous, I bought my 2014 D-Max just a few years ago so I could get in and out of a vehicle without causing anymore stress and pain to my back which for me comes about when having to stoop down and back up again when trying to get into a standard low car. A 4x4 on the other hand, alleviates all the back pain while getting in and out of the higher seat. I’d never buy a small low car. It would be way too painful. Well done on in this episode guys. We all need to stand up and be heard. We the people…
The rights won't get taken away if we 4wder's unite and create an online dust cloud over all the noise the city dwellers are making about hiking rego prices up!! We've got this team.
I am a boilermaker and enjoy traveling with the family in my spare time. I have a Ranger which I use for work and play. The so called “experts” that are getting around on their E scooters etc what about charging them rego and insurance for their scooter or E bikes I can bet there would no longer be as many of all of those on the road. They almost have more rights on the roads then I do in my “fuel” taxed “insurance” taxed “tyre” taxed “rego” taxed “road” taxed vehicle. Australian government pull ya head in rant over. Cheers for another great epp guys take care.
Graham that comment about EV in the bush is spot on I’m in the USA and we have electric hummers that are 5000 Kg And yes they have to put a heck of a strain on the trails you put a caravan on the back and your at 10,000Kg That’s just crazy on a trail in my experience and I drive a Semi truck so I’m 40,000Kg s all day long but not on a trail
Personally think all states should have it like Victoria. 800 or so for a year for all vehicles. no matter size or shape. No extra prices to keep custom plates on (looking at you NSW)
You guys are just legends. This shit is happening everywhere. Whether it be 4wding or firearms. The government don’t want us to have any of these and just have control of us. We need to fight for our say I’m a tradie and love my ranger Ute and also love the 200 .
I owned a as thunder ute,and couldn't keep tyres and rims up to it. The cause was potholes in the roads bitumen roads at that. Hence now I own a Hilux ute. Fight hard and keep it true brothers
Hi Shauno and Gray - There’s an elephant in the room here and it’s not your vehicle but according to a recent Drive article most old and new 4WDs will not be able to meet the new Euro 6d fuel emissions standards being applied here in Australia from late 2025 and retrospectively to all vehicles in 2028 - I suspect showroom floor owners are getting nervous about this and we may also see registration increases to penalise us that own them - that’s if we pass the annual inspection test because if it fails we may not be able to register them anymore - I put this to Andrew St Pierre White of 4x4 Overland RUclips channel and he dismissed it - I don’t think he’s across this at all.
"and retrospectively to all vehicles in 2028", when you read what it actually says, "New versions of new cars, including SUVs and light commercials, sold from December 2025 will need to comply with the standards, which replace the existing Euro 5 measures.The standards will then apply to all new vehicles on sale from 2028" nothing about retrospectivity.............
Away around this would create new category mid size commercial or light truck. If standard has these defined then just get around it by new category of vehicle which then they need to change to any New ICE vehicle.
Completely agree boys, so good that you’re using your platform to share this information. As you said, we need to step up and stop the mindless city civilians when they do stupid crap like this. Because, if we don’t, we won’t be able to wheel our favourite weekend tracks for much longer. Your new boots look bloody good btw Shauno.
I've had my 04 Hilux since new. I refuse to use the tolls here in Melbourne because they charge me more as it's classed as a commercial vehicle.... even though it's for private use only. A bigger Patrol or LC is cheaper on the tolls here....go figure. Good video boys
@@william6815 mate they sent me a letter and told me so. Check your toll invoices. All utilities are classified as commercial and charged accordingly.... and extra. It's privately registered ever since I bought it new in 04.
loading zones are used by little hatchbacks i know this cause im a delivery driver in mackay and get all sorts from holden barina to a massive ram parked in them rain days are worse
same but Not the Same, here in California in the USA, 6 mothers after i got a loan for a 2012 camaro V6 gets 24-35 mpg, in 2017 my state raised gas tax and registration, my registration went from 150$ to over 800$ Every year to re-register my car. because my 2 door camaro with decent gas mileage was located in a rather large city i was slapped with a gas guzzler tax for my registration. I went from having a vehicle i could afford was my 1st car with less than 25,000 miles on it, to I'm out of a job because i cant afford gas. i watched gas go from 3.43$ a gallon to 4$ than 5$ and during covid it shot up to 6$ a gallon now I'm spending 80$ every 3 days i had a 350$ payment 250$ insurance. and i only made 1200$ a month. i was left with 100$ for food and bills not related to the car. i was forced to quit my job because i could no longer afford to drive 60+ miles round trip to work and home every day. all it did was make me sit and realize after these new laws came in to play was my sate and those who run my state dont care about the people one bit only about filling there pockets so they can give eachother raises. i hope this works out better for you guys over in the AU then it did for me in the California USA
Mate im contractor for QGC in qld and we drive 79 series and n80 hiluxs to all of the sites as they are majoritly off road and i can tell you now theres no getting a tesla through these roads nor little commodores and camrys. We are nearly in the same boat as trucks tbh. If trucks stop Aus stops right. Well think about my work industry obv not just mine but the whole lot of us country fellas could be earthmoving oil and gas could be heaps of different jobs but if we lose 4wd i think atleast 50% of aus would be at a high risk of losing their jobs this is just crazy lol im 18 years old mate and i know what this is going to cause these city folks are just insane.
Totally agree with everything you said. We have a 200 series and Bushtracker caravan. Worked our guts out to retire and buy them, paid taxes all our working lives but still they want to take more away from us.
I drive skip trucks in inner city of Brisbane yes it’s difficult to get down smaller streets when trades are there with there dual cabs. But if they were in smaller vehicles there would be more of them in the one street so even harder. And I manage to get the truck passed so those who complain normally are driving a small to medium vehicle and have no confidence with there judgment and get angry and expect the whole street to be empty
Yes! I couldn’t agree more with you. I honestly can’t believe people with absolutely zero experience in off-road vehicles can make huge decisions like these.
Love the channel, have been binge watching for weeks now. I think Shaun is right - focus the attention on the idiots on the road driving dangerously, I see it every day. Plus cost of living is too high as it is to be talking about more taxes and they're picking soft targets. Spiffy boots :-)
Gents could not agree more!! EV's are extremely heavy and cause more than their fair share of wear on our roads and do not contribute via the fuel levy!! As you say rego should be cheaper for commercially registered utes. Great chat!!
We need the big American utes so we can comply with the strict towing requirements where a standard dual cab ute struggles to tow a large trailer /caravan or boat and have passengers or items in the ute . Let us have whatever we want to drive . Thats freedom . There’s lots of things inner city people do that I do like but I deal with it
Same here in Canada it is the ludicrous ev morons can you imagine hiring a contractor and they show up with a Honda fit with tools ladders and supplies draped all over the outside lol
What the hell. My brothers 56 Chevy is heavier than my 2016 Ranger. There is no way i can carry my work gear in a Yaris Hybrid. As usual the office know all makes these stupid decisions and no consultation ever. Love your work guys. Cheers
Used to work in a tiling warehouse, most young tilers had hatchbacks crammed full with all the same tools as the old guys with their huge trucks. Not every trade needs a big vehicle. Part of the problem is that dual cabs are now family vehicles. Drive what you need, no more taxes!
Hi Shauno and Gray - if they take away 4x4 and trucks we will not be able to explore Australia, And farms will stop as there is no way to transport them. And I really hope I can get one of the past boots as I have not had a new pair of boots in two years Keep up the great work team 👍
Yes, that’s the plan, not allowing us to explore Australia and also restricting the movement out of the city in the near future. It's all about slowly introducing to 15-minute city.
Great video and discussion boys. Let's hope this video triggers a much, much wider response from the public. The issue in Australia is that the general public is calm and obedient enough to allow this to happen. That 'She'll be right' attitude. You can bet the government knows this, and almost 'expects' no public outrage. This is only on the table because government knows this class of vehicle is popular, and wants to make money off it, plain and simple.
While the the whole argument is completely wrong it does bring up the fact that there does need to be a rethink on the rego system country wide. Big cars shouldn't be taxed more but if they want to incentivise small and or electric/hybrid cars they should make rego for them cheaper
Think about this. The demerit system was introduced when basic speed detection devices were in play. Now the same demerit points are aplied to fixed cameras, mobile cameras, phone usage, sest belts, police have speed detection in there cars. So why is the arcaic 12 point system still in play. This whole system should be reviewed. What other act in breaking the law are you penalised multiple ways immeadiately. You get a fine. Loose points and potentialy loose your driving privelage, you steal from a shop, you get a slap on the wrist.
You need to read up on the demerit point system that is used in Australia , drivers dont lose points or “ loose ‘ points. Drivers start on zero and accumulate demerit points. I have no idea why so many people in Australia gets this incorrect.
@@AussieDazza That varies on a state to state basis , here in South Australia out start out with 12 demerit points on a full licence and you lose points for each time you get caught breaking a road rule and when you get to zero points your licence gets suspended . the points take 2 or three years to get reinstated to your licence and it's about 3 to 6 months till you gets some points back if your licence gets suspended by the accumulation of lost points .
Good bloody on ya, I’ve been targeting in Coffs Harbour because i had my wheel turned to the right ready to get back on the road and the copper was trying to defect me, they will make anything up to remove good cars to replace them with shitbox electric cars
Hi Guys, how about we think outside the box - take the bull bar off replace it with a hinged queensize mattress so if you hit anyone ( all good - soft & comfy ) then as you know everything has to have at least two uses in the bush , so at night you fold down the mattress by the hinged mechanism for a good night's sleep also a possible ( genius ) third use - attach a broom to the bottom edge of the mattress & sweep the road while your driving , cheers Phil
A fun fact. In New South Wales a 200kg box trailer costs $70 per year to register, but a 3.2 tonne Tri-axle converter Dolly used in a Road Train costs $56 per year to register - and the Dolly can be used in a 82.5 tonne Road Train for commercial purposes.
Haha - Lets see the average dualcab tow that (not totally negligible ball weight) - show the lads how limited their little TDi really is. - Lets rate the GVM - that's what we are paying for here... (Gross axle group Loading 700kg (unbraked) vs 20T - on the dolly as par of the roadtrain gross ~131T + on a Tridrive full tri-axle BAB Quad rig or Triple Train (2A) - (some run higher weights on some tables)...) ... AND a Dolly converter is pretty useless without the roadtrain, tell all the boys and girls what a Roadtrain Primemover costs to Register....
I think I can shed some light on the write off part of the article. In the US you can write off an entire vehicle purchase if that vehicle is above 6000 lbs. if it’s below, you can’t. I believe you can only write off the first $12k. There’s a similar law in Australia. If the payload is over 1000kg or seats 9 people, you can write off up to $150,000. But if not, it’s considered a passenger car and you can only write off $57k. Don’t quote me on the specifics, but I’m fairly certain I have the broad strokes of it. Thanks guys love your videos.
As a technician worker that does fit off work if we could park in the 3 basements levels that can hold 1-200 cars we would be removing the cars from public roads. But they dont allow us to park down there.
I live in a rural area I have not seen once a American Ute tow anything more than a caravan or have anything in the back of them, they all have tubs and we all know how useless a tub is for work and are perfectly clean and it shows that they are just used as a show car and tax right off. I have no issues with the stand size of Ute. but lets be honest a 2wd Ute could do the job of 80% of peoples work and if you live in the city it would most likely go up to 99% plus if your buying a American Ute they are like 150K they get like 12L per 100 so what's an extra $1000 a year, its not like you cant afford it.
Bull bars have never been crash tested from factory and the airbags and safety systems won't operate properly to keep occupants safe as without a bull bar. Would you rather keep your family safe as possible or stop your car getting damaged by a Roo? I understand the benefits of a bull bar like adding a winch and spoties but it is a safety compromise. 👍
Recently saw a Toyota 100 series with the bullbar bent into a triangle dead centre of bonnet and the car was written off. Showed interior and the airbags did not deploy, so your argument definitely has merit.
Few days ago I drove into the city in my LANDCRUISER 105 series and 4 times I was Cut off by small Cars . I Noticed that Some Small cars are very Dangerous 😳 Zipping through Traffic LIKE there on a Race Track ! Kind Regards 🇦🇺
I reckon it’s a great idea. They are the most offensive cars on the road. Get massive tires and a bull bar, winch with orange tracks attached to the roof and your jerrycan so you can cross all of those big river sections in Bexley and parramatta.
This is the first I've heard about it. I bought a dual cab Triton as I have a growing family, use my vehicle to take tools to customer locations for work, pick up and drop off CFMoto SXS (I'm a dealer) and take the family camping (avoids the need for a trailer at this time). I couldn't do my job without a large vehicle capable of towing over a tonne through a paddock so yes I need 4wd as well. I sell a lot of vehicles to famers and they do break down in the field and some are hobby farmers that don't have another vehicle to tow their own stuff out. I can't say I've ever parked in a loading zone for a quick stop at the shop as it's not what it's there for. If they think bigger vehicle makes more noise then those people have never heard a Harley Davidson. The biggest issue is these inner city, hand moisturising, "meat comes from the supermarket" bastards have never worked with their hands or done any physical labour so they think they know better. It's not just tradies or 4wd owners getting the shit covered end of the stick either. The government is trying to take away all our rights and freedoms!
Agee 100% with your comments guys. Again the squeaky wheel makes all the noice. Bloody crazy. They’ll be screwed without their “lattes” and full bins 😂
Hey guys, It’s terrible to think they would seriously charge higher taxes for 4wds! Im 15 and I bought my first project car, 1981 RN46 Hilux, when I had only just turned 14! Working my first part time job to be able to rebuild my ride before I am licensed. I’m also studying at school as well as electrotechnologies at Tafe to become an electrician. My car is my project now but will be my daily driver for work when the time comes. As a kid on apprentice wages, its hard enough let alone paying more for driving a car that I’m passionate about! I’m right with you guys, lets fight a good fight on this!!
As a farmer, I rely on my 4x4 Ute to pick up farming supplies. I don't think a Tesla would cut it carrying a ton of fertiliser and drive the dirt roads around here. It's becoming an absolute joke. If our poo was worth anything they'd tax our bumholes. Fully support you guys, another great video 😤
tell it to Klaus Schwab, Yuval Harrari and Bill Gates ... They are the leaders of the doomsday cult of climate change and they hate all people. They call us useless eaters and bill Gates is preaching over decade for exterminating 90% of the worlds population. They don't want us doing better
I respect farmers, it's a hard job and your lucky to break even but with our you we wouldn't have fresh produce on our plates. I used to be a game keeper in my spare time and builder for my full time job. I got out of the building trade due to the price of materials going up and the price of the jobs going down to a point of it wasn't profitable to renew my gas licence. I'm glad I got out of it when I did and now I'm a truck driver,more money and less stress. I own a ford ranger coz I live away from home in the truck and have a weeks worth of gear to carry coz I have to dekit every week. I don't have enough space with out taking stuff out to go shopping etc. My family lives in the country down some roads that you need 4wd to get down especially in the winter or when it's been raining.
Spot on mate. Ev's don't do it in the bush. I sometimes wonder what the politicians think about us out here. Not a lot I am guessing
You can't do it in a Nissan cube?
I had a vw tiguan before and that's a big boot space. I still had to put stuff on the back seat and take it out when I got home so I can get the dog in and the shopping (the boot was rammed full) and damaging the interior. I don't think the cube boot space is any bigger.
These will be the same people thinking we don’t need farms because we get our food from the supermarket. Maybe these people should come out to the country and drive there small cars on the roads. They’ll be paying for new tyres every week.
The roads where I live have been ruined by the floods the last 3 years and haven’t been fixed due to costing to much money and being out in the country.
Keep up the great work team
Someone mentioned on another video they're flushing out ppl from the rural to live in their sick smart cities.
Yet these roads were built on far less money with far less registered vehicles.. now where is all the money going from registration? Certainly not on the riads
Foreigners produce it cheaper. Government has more control over a population if they control all food coming in. Why would anyone reduce farming?
@@KrisH-mc8hd Sick as in good?
@@KrisH-mc8hd I can't fathom people wanting to live in human sewers that are cities let alone anything they could possibly do to induce me and many others to live in one. These people are out of their freaking minds. If they want to round up and cage people like animals they should expect to be bitten. They would have better results trying to herd cats.
When Scott Morrison said a couple of years ago "change over from fuel to ev, wont effect current fuel car owners"
I said to the Mrs, you watch, they'll price us out of our cars with high rego, high fuel prices, high insurance ect...we've seen all of that.
yeah but Scott is the PM anymore so no blame can land with him
@@cheryleesbeesakathesilentb3629 That's not how reality works
@@Ktmfan450 I know how reality works and grew up around politicians my whole life plus I never said the next government (Albanese) wouldn't try the same
@@cheryleesbeesakathesilentb3629 Crazy
Yeah blind Freddy can see how they’ll try and achieve it. Morrison was thrown out and the climate natzi’s have entered the chat with their nation destroying policies.
As a tradesman, if my rego goes up, I'm just going to past the cost on to my customers. Is that fair to my customers? No, but as a business i need to if i wanna keep operating. Its cost of living going up for no reason.
This right here is it 👍🏼
If it's a work vehicle, whatever the extra cost would be if it ever happens will just go into your tax return and be written off as a work expense, so there's no need to charge your clients extra, and how much extra would you charge each client, $1, $5, $200 this type of comment makes no sense, if rego does go up, I will just be addint it to all my other costs of running my business and claim it back from the gov't as they increased the price, simple as that, no need to punish my clients for this.
@@-PORK-CHOP- that’s not how it works, it comes off the taxable income, not your tax bill. I hope you have an accountant to do your taxes
so if your rego goes up from say 800 to 1100 you gonna charge the next 40 customers an extra 400 bucks each? because if you just added an extra 10 bucks per job to account for rego no customer would even notice, but we all know your tax return will cover that anyway
It's called overheads if you don't pass these costs on to your customers you won't survive as a business...
It's no wonder so many businesses go under in Australia when they believe they don't have to pass on overhead costs.
I’m a tradie and I can remember when I was an apprentice I thought it was a good idea to grab 15 bags of concrete and put them in the boot of my Honda Accord……I’ve never felt more unsafe in a car in my life…..the Titanic would have steered better. In the cars defence I’m sure the 18 year old suspension was not up to the task. Since then maturity has improved and I wouldn’t think twice about that kind of weight, especially tools going into a smaller car. Tradies need the bigger cars to safely carry our tools around.
Keep up the great work with the channel fellas! Love your work!
That's funny because I put the same amount of concrete (15 x 20kg = 300kg) in the back of a Toyota Prius in the upper Blue Mountains one time to see what would happen. It actually managed to get up the hill ok, but I could tell the car was complaining!
But yeah, they call them Utes because they are useful. Nothing more useful than a Ute.
These will be the same people thinking we don’t need farms because we get our food from the supermarket. Maybe these people should come out to the country and drive there small cars on the roads. They’ll be paying for new tyres every week.
Keep up the great work team xxxx
They want us to think these people are dumb city folk but that's not the case. This is happening all around the world, this is part of a bigger operation think if u were running a military u need to stop reliable engines and 4wd as they are capable and threat to revolution sounds crazy but true.
People in the city are pissed off because they can’t find a parking spot in the morning, because construction workers have been working already since 5:30 to build the houses for them, so yeah… take the tram I guess.
This is actually the very first time I've even heard of this. You boys are 100% on the money with this topic
Mate. Take some time out to look at what the politicians are doing ffs. They are riding over us all. Stop with the "she'll be right mate" attitude
G-day gents , I drive a a-double semi trailer in Sydney bringing everything of the wharf so everyone can go down to the local shop and buy what every they want when they want it. I drive a duel cab Ute to and from work and use it to row my boat to a waterway and take the family fishing . I get the kids are off electronics and out in the outdoor enjoying life.
The biggest problem is that people aren’t taught how to drive in a safe manner with a boat , trailer , caravan or even a car trailer and that there a lot of people don’t know how to load a car trailer . I teach my kids how to back a trailer as I was taught by my parents when I learnt to drive. Love the show keep up to the good work
I am an apprentice linesman from south west qld.
While I was away for training in Ipswich I came across a twin steer dump truck that had broken down on a steeper hill blocking an intersection. The number or little city cars backed up and honking the horns and going off at the Truckie was appalling. I took it upon myself to self to do a uturn and try help the poor Bugga. Because I own a 4x4 I was able to drop it in low range and tow the 24t truck up the hill to the nearest safe spot. Now let’s see a Yaris or Tesla do that.
Love the content guys. Keep it coming.!!
I am a real estate agent in a suburban coastal area of SE qld, I don't drive a European sports car however, I drive a 2015 MQ triton. Many think this is stupid... But...This means I can offer styling and staging of their when I go to sell it, rubbish removal when they need it or to remove that table and pot plants that they left without needing... It offers me a point of difference in a competitive industry. Utes and large vehicle are needed in the world and we should not be taxed for wanting the ability to help others. I do not charge for tip runs or styling or any other use for the use...Having a ute is so useful even for a "desk job" like being an agent... And it means I can help the community and get away on weekends, away from the crowds and phone ringing when I need down time. I don't feel it's right that I should be taxed for having the ability to help out friends, family and clients when other agents are running around in 100k+ sports cars.
Geez, you're a rare species! Good on ya.
Now read that back & wake up to yourself!!
A rare breed of estate agent.
-1,000 Australia socialist credit points for driving a Hilux or Ranger and not voting for Labor from Jan 2025 🎪🇦🇺
[also heard Albo plans to deduct 500 Australia socialist credit points if you don’t support Souths 🏉 in the NRL 🤷]
Thank you for bringing this article to our attention. I think it’s completely ridiculous on how disconnected our government is to reality.
Where in the story does it say this is a government proposal, they don't name the individuals who are making this submission, they say a group of experts , sounds like a lobby group Lobbying the government to make changes. I could get a group of experts to propose the banning of beer , doesn't mean the government will do it.
Remember when they put a higher tax on cars that are imported to make people buy Australian made cars, now we don’t have Australian made cars but the tax is still there haven’t changed it back
Are you talking about the luxury car tax?
That's the story of the Australian government. They form a narrative, convincing people that what they're doing is for the benefit of the people or the economy. Little by little, Australia has gotten more regulated, controlled, and expensive. What's scary is that once the government has this control or new wealth, there's no giving it back..
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 no many years ago may have been about the Paul Keating maybe, the government was handing money over to Holden ford and Toyota to keep building cars here in Australia they also up the the tax on imported cars to persuade Australians to buy Australian built cars
No tax for rego on 4wd
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 I think the Luxury car tax is a seperate tax, we always paid the import tax they put it up higher to discourage people from buying cars built overseas as well as paying car makers in Australia Holden Ford Toyota millions of dollars to keep building cars in Australia. I’m going off my memory bank 😂 which isn’t always 100%
Why don't you guys lead with a petition to go against it. You will have huge support from everyone in Australia!!
I just recently got my first 4x4 last year (Ranger Wildtrak), it has got to be the best car I've ever owned. I can literally do anything with it - take it off road, go shopping, school runs, tow trailers and boats. But most importantly what I love about my ranger is that I no longer need to worry about pot holes anymore. Simply just dont even notice them anymore. Victorian roads are so sh!t and around my area vicroads are forever just patching the pot holes made by trucks.
Wife has a skoda superb and in the last 3 years pot holes have cracked 2 rims. At $1400 a pop each thats quite expensive considering vicroads are suppose to "maintain" the roads... A 4x4 dual cab just seems like a practical solution for most people and even families these days. The govt just want more money because we are one of the most indebted nations in the world.
@speedracer6969 another one contributing to the issue. Lets just get a dual cab ute because I can and not because you actually need one.
@@NickClemont9999 whats the rim size and tyre profile? these days as a mechanic you see it a lot on newer cars with almost no sidewall. still though, you are correct, the roads are maintained like dogs bollocks. the melba highway is a disgrace.
EV's are heavier then thier internal combustion versions. Will they be taxed more?
No, because they’re “GoOd FoR tHe EnViRoNmEnT”
Everyone who thinks this government is here for our benefit is a total tool.
@@1mNotoriousTGfunniest thing about that is they really aren’t an ev car cause so much pollution in the making of the battery and they don’t actually end up being eco friendly until the end of the cars life and a battery of an ev car cost almost as much as one of the cars themself to make them for all the minerals they take out of the earth to make the battery 🤷🏼
And anyone who says they are better for the earth no the hell they aren’t do the research behind it they aren’t as eco friendly as one thinks
Yes they actually get charged per klm in South Australia and Victoria, so is that fair enough? And dam these other comments shows that you watch to much sky news 😂😂
I'm already paying much more registration for my 850kg Sierra, because it's classification was changed due to no seatbelts in the back. It's now a touring utility. So my little zook costs the same to rego as my 3.6t patrol ute. They really do their best to strip all your cash, it's all it's about.
Yeah, your Patrol is not 3.6 tonnes. Maybe gross, but not kerb weight which is the weight you're stating for your zook. Otherwise you're looking at about 1.38 tonnes for your zook gross for a fair comparison.
@JohnSmith-nz4bn I have weighed both my cars mate. 3.6t in the patrol with just fridges in the canopy, and the suzuki was 950kg with me in it, I weigh 100kg. But hey, feel free to come watch me weigh it again.
@@reddog4x4Matt I'm going to roll with what Nissan and the various aftermarket suppliers of GVM upgrade kits say the vehicles weigh, sorry.
@JohnSmith-nz4bn all good. It's a massive touring ute, and really should go on a diet! 🤣
@@reddog4x4Matt you are comparing loaded weight and unloaded weight haha. Common sense says compare the same scenario for both.
I just watched this and as a truck driver and someone who at the moment me and the wifey go camping 2-3 times a year It took me a long time to get my 2009 pathfinder and Jayco van to do what we have wanted to do for a long time, get back to nature and enjoy, keep up the good fight you have our full support.
Yeah R51 pathy owners :) got mine pretty well setup now. Same thing as you. Family camping in the bush.
That is funny when they say large cars are damaging roads.
As a civil engineer I design roads very often and the determining factor for the thickness of the road pavement is semi trailer trucks and above, not small vehicles. Ute’s and other cars aren’t even taken into consideration for the design of the pavement.
I don't think anyone should be paying more rego until the disgraceful state of our roads is rectified. What the hell are we paying for?!
Rego has nothing to do with roads construction or maintenance.
Rego partially funds the government department that manages the system of rego. They have offices and computers and furniture and staff that get paid to go to work each day.
-1,000 Australia socialist credit points for driving a Hilux or Ranger and not voting for Labor from Jan 2025 🎪🇦🇺
[also heard Albo plans to deduct 500 Australia socialist credit points if you don’t support Souths 🏉 in the NRL 🤷]
The government stuffed up many years ago not helping Holden and Ford stay a float. They needed to keep these two companies building cars in this country. They should have taxed people less rates to buy these vehicles and made all government cars either Holden or ford. Myself as a Tradie would much prefer to operate out of comfortable Aussie ute. Now they want to charge us more tax for buying the next best thing a 4x4 ute.
I’m sick of being trodden on ! I am only one of the few that speak up and actually contact politicians. As usual, your show brings these issues to our attention and everyone needs to speak up. I’m disappointed you boys never mention these politicians and lobbyist groups by name and put links in to contact them ?? Surely viewers would be more likely to actually do something about it. And the ones that do nothing need a kick in the ass with those boots 🇦🇺
I speak up all the time it's you who isn't listening
@@Ktmfan450 please elaborate on what you’re saying and what I’m supposedly not listening to
Most people are too stupid to understand the working of politics. They complain endlessly about the end result if it effects them directly but dont understand about lobbying is what causes these nefarious agendas.
All politicians do is lie endlessly on behalf of their lobbyists and all everyone wants to do is argue the validity of the lies rather than deal with the root issue.
I’m in FNQ… in December my house got flooded, but the brand new Luxy was all good, water to the side steps
The neighbours Barina got swamped.
Imagine an EV battery getting swamped
@@mattyb1624 might keep it cool stop it from frying everything around it🤣
You guys are right, this is absolutely ridiculous and should not happen!!
Absolutely ludicrous that this is even being considered. Thanks to you boys getting the word out there. I’m a young bloke who works in a small county earthworks business and I rely on all types of heavy machinery and my own Hilux to live. Let’s get the word out there and protect of jobs/lives.
Fuel tax is 49.6 cents a litre. The heavier vehicles use more fuel to operate.
Federal Government excise is 42 cents per litre + 10% GST on the approximate $2.00 per litre sale price - so roughly 60 cents + 3x3 road levy and other state based taxes in New South Wales - so fuel tax is way more than most people think
BTW you have to drive these cars you can't buy a smaller more fuel efficient car
@Gdsamplify a smaller vehicle won't fit all my tools in a manner which is organised. I'm at my weight limit.
Toolboxes on the back allow secure storage. I also won't look professional turning up in a nissan micra.
If you've ever driven on wet clay construction sites, you would understand the need for a 4x4 with mud tyres.
And hence don’t need to be (artificially) gouged even further.
As more EVs come on the road won’t fuel prices drop? Supply demand??
Can only speak on behalf of what’s happened in Victoria. But a lot of companies/councils just buy bulk dual cabs for their fleet as a tax write off and hardly any of them are actually used by the tradies to carry tools or trailers around. Mostly used by the foreman, engineers, managers etc. maybe introduce different registration rates between commercial and personal.
formans or not its still commercial carowned buy a business so what's to seperate ?
and thats your concern because?
When it hits the fan, the forman needs to get stuff to site.
Australia where foot paths are wider then the roads in the city. Not to mention that we are also paying nearly 50c tax for every $1 of fuel we put into vehicles.
It's 50cents a litre not per dollar.
You will own nothing and be happy, some jewish guy somewhere.
@@TB-rm7oq If only the Jews were as powerful as you guys keep making them out to be
@@TB-rm7oq actually thats klauss schwab his father was Nazi
Cities are for people not cars. King St in Sydney is 4 lanes across, get ova yaself.
Thanks for bringing this topic up and as a tradie myself getting some credit for the hard shit days at work that some people don't know tradies put up with! You blokes speak sense! Legends!!!
Massive reversal in NZ thinking with our new gvmt, and thank God! Road user charges for all EVs (currently getting away with $0 road maintenance taxes), and a realisation that actually - the farmers and tradies of our country NEED these vehicles to do their job - just like their office-space equivalents need their $$$/sq M office spaces. Covid kinda sorted out who runs the country..farmers and tradies or your office-space techy...??
You guys are doing the Good Work. Keep it up!
yes, we have to get rid of this labor government
Thanks guys couldn't agree more! I'm an apprentice chipy so my wage isn't through the roof, but I simply need a bigger car I've got a 6km unsealed driveway, I tow a trailers and carry materials on my roof. It just doesn't seam fair.
My ute purchase for work took away my need for a trailer. So now I use less fuel, now only one car space, my length on the road is nearly halved and it's now safer for me and others.
Good point mate 👍
Good discussion gents. Having immigrated from South Africa many years ago to Aus. You quickly notice that 4WDing, touring, caravaning, boating and experiencing the off roads in nature, is part of the Australian culture. It's amazing to see humans LIVIN life to the fullest. Why would anyone want to deter livin? They should be encouraging it and making it easier to access. Blows my mind 🤔
Are there any white South Africans in South Africa anymore?
Lads! So glad to see you guys getting this info out. I'm a chippy and there is no way I can't not have a Ute to tow the 10's of thousands of tools to site each day to build australia! I really think we need to get onto a petition and getting a letter draft written up that we can get out to the 4wd community to then send to our local MP's! Cheers Lads! Love the work over the years and too see where you guys are at now after all the hours and work and I'm sure a bit of fun is great to see!
Defo need people power
Love that you guys are actually putting the foot down on things like this as well as track closures! In SE Vic were seeing so many 'seasonal closure' gates get closed and never reopened, and they're starting to say that they're closing them for aboriginal heritage. I fully respect the aboriginal people, and have several friends in that community but its not them that want us locked out! They dont want to spend the money maintaining tracks so they find an excuse to close them. Examples are Davies Plain Track, Ingeegoodbee Track, McFarlane Flat Track, Cobberas Track and plenty more! Beautiful, very remote areas that we all should be able to visit as Australians! "For we are ONE and free"
Use those winches to pull the gates away and off we go.
Exactly what was told to me about the closed tracks in NSW only late last year. They don't have money to keep maintaining them after getting rutted out and damaged.
Best beers in the shed ever.. I’m sending this viral.. you guys make great points and everything you said is true.. and we are losing our rights and thing will change and not for the good of 4x4 drivers.. it’s just a matter of when.. ps.. need some new boots too would be great.. I’m a Trucker..!!
My present duelcab hilux sr5 is an important link to my late grandfather. It was the only car I owned he enjoyed being in. I don't want to be taxed out of this memory of him. Vehicles are not just a pile of metal and plastic. Some hold important memories of lost loved ones.
You blokes hit the nail on the head and the nail is the people that dream up all this rubbish love your work
That's because they don't have a real job and have too much time to do nothing.
Don't vote labor again....simple...
Thanks for the info, boys.
As always, you have your fingers on the pulse.
If there is anything we can sign to try and stop another crazy tax scheme from the government, please let us know.
Well done on the show.
Crossy. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I am sure a full size electric vehicle is heavier than an Asian built dual cab.
It is
Solar or coal powered
You boys are spot on. I rekon we give these city slickers a crack at driving down some country roads at night in there Toyota Yaris and watch em sweat. But this is seriously a problem that must be addressed you fellas doing gods work sharing this issue kudos.
Good show guys.
Here in the UK bull bars are banned! So let that be a lesson, do everything you can to stop the rego increase. Give "them" an inch and they'll take a mile.
What are you going to hit in the UK? A Hedgehog?
@@Ktmfan450Deer.. RSPCA research indicates up-to 74,000 deer are involved in road traffic collisions each year in the UK.. Plus a lot of UK lads go through the Euro-tunnel unsurprisingly to Europe where the have bigger animals like moose etc.. if you don’t know deer are like Roo’s they like playing chicken with cars..
@@paulschofield985 Biggest difference between hitting a Roo and hitting a deer, A roo is not as tall as a deer and tend to go under the car.
A deer is on 4 tall legs and that's what you hit when you collide with them, then their body rolls up onto the bonnet/hood and into the windscreen. Problem is when the deer starts kicking as it's still caught through the windscreen glass.
@@Ktmfan450 I have driven in the UK late at night and passed an 8 foot deer just standing on the side of the road, we were doing 70MPH, my blood ran cold, it could have been game over. Far more pedestrians in UK tho
Badgers are lethal too, turns your car into an accordion
Awesome video as always 4WD 24/7 Crew. 2024 is going to be a epic adventure can't wait to see all the new adventures y'all got in store for this year. Especially Graham's off grid series. Thanks for letting us ride along with y'all on y'all's adventures.
I'm about to start an apprenticeship in WA and I think a fresh pair of boots will do me great, I've been watching your guys videos forever. keep up the good work!!
That first topic, you could see Shaun was really worked up about it. Good on ya mate ❤️ absolutely love the passion
Never heard about this till I watched this. The rego was supposed to be for the upkeep of our roads, but it's not.
You are right, If our rego fees are going to roads, then the government must have built a Yellow Brick Road.................. Somewhere....
Roads around me are like driving on cobblestone, between the potholes and the over-filled potholes.
If I ever need to shake cans of paint I can just chuck them in the back and go for a 3 minute drive, faster mixer than a paint store.
The roads around where i live there are trailers with broken axels in the table drains, broken draw bars, sheered wheel studs. How can they say our roads are safe if your well looked after gear fails from poor road conditions
Im with you guys 💯 , if they keep privatising government agency's we can expect a lot more of this !
Keep voting LNP for.more privatisation. Easy.
@@user-jc2ts8ol8l both are wings on the same bird mate
@@user-jc2ts8ol8l they are both two wings of the same bird
How friggin ridiculous, I bought my 2014 D-Max just a few years ago so I could get in and out of a vehicle without causing anymore stress and pain to my back which for me comes about when having to stoop down and back up again when trying to get into a standard low car. A 4x4 on the other hand, alleviates all the back pain while getting in and out of the higher seat. I’d never buy a small low car. It would be way too painful.
Well done on in this episode guys. We all need to stand up and be heard. We the people…
The rights won't get taken away if we 4wder's unite and create an online dust cloud over all the noise the city dwellers are making about hiking rego prices up!! We've got this team.
I am a boilermaker and enjoy traveling with the family in my spare time. I have a Ranger which I use for work and play. The so called “experts” that are getting around on their E scooters etc what about charging them rego and insurance for their scooter or E bikes I can bet there would no longer be as many of all of those on the road. They almost have more rights on the roads then I do in my “fuel” taxed “insurance” taxed “tyre” taxed “rego” taxed “road” taxed vehicle. Australian government pull ya head in rant over. Cheers for another great epp guys take care.
Graham that comment about EV in the bush is spot on I’m in the USA and we have electric hummers that are 5000 Kg And yes they have to put a heck of a strain on the trails you put a caravan on the back and your at 10,000Kg That’s just crazy on a trail in my experience and I drive a Semi truck so I’m 40,000Kg s all day long but not on a trail
Personally think all states should have it like Victoria. 800 or so for a year for all vehicles. no matter size or shape. No extra prices to keep custom plates on (looking at you NSW)
As someone from vic that’s absolutely not true but ranger is roughly 650 a year for registration but the wife’s yarris is 550 or something
My 1 series is 800 n something same price as my prado n Mrs i30
In Victoria
@@stevefairley2535 exactly. it doesnt matter what car or truck itll be 800 or so in Victoria
First time watching your show and I thought it was amazing ,no bullshit and down to earth honest truth about everything you talked about Well done!!!
You guys are just legends. This shit is happening everywhere. Whether it be 4wding or firearms. The government don’t want us to have any of these and just have control of us.
We need to fight for our say
I’m a tradie and love my ranger Ute and also love the 200 .
I owned a as thunder ute,and couldn't keep tyres and rims up to it. The cause was potholes in the roads bitumen roads at that. Hence now I own a Hilux ute.
Fight hard and keep it true brothers
Hi Shauno and Gray - There’s an elephant in the room here and it’s not your vehicle but according to a recent Drive article most old and new 4WDs will not be able to meet the new Euro 6d fuel emissions standards being applied here in Australia from late 2025 and retrospectively to all vehicles in 2028 - I suspect showroom floor owners are getting nervous about this and we may also see registration increases to penalise us that own them - that’s if we pass the annual inspection test because if it fails we may not be able to register them anymore - I put this to Andrew St Pierre White of 4x4 Overland RUclips channel and he dismissed it - I don’t think he’s across this at all.
It's criminal.
"and retrospectively to all vehicles in 2028", when you read what it actually says, "New versions of new cars, including SUVs and light commercials, sold from December 2025 will need to comply with the standards, which replace the existing Euro 5 measures.The standards will then apply to all new vehicles on sale from 2028" nothing about retrospectivity.............
@@johnsullivan6410You beat me to it. I was about to correct him as well. 👍
Try using your brain instead of the beer
Away around this would create new category mid size commercial or light truck. If standard has these defined then just get around it by new category of vehicle which then they need to change to any New ICE vehicle.
Thanks for the discussion we support all local businesses and country towns when 4 wheel driving thanks keep up the great work
if I ever meetup with either of you boys I'm shouting you a beer with this video .. this hits spot on !!! well said fellas !!!
Completely agree boys, so good that you’re using your platform to share this information. As you said, we need to step up and stop the mindless city civilians when they do stupid crap like this. Because, if we don’t, we won’t be able to wheel our favourite weekend tracks for much longer.
Your new boots look bloody good btw Shauno.
I've had my 04 Hilux since new. I refuse to use the tolls here in Melbourne because they charge me more as it's classed as a commercial vehicle.... even though it's for private use only.
A bigger Patrol or LC is cheaper on the tolls here....go figure.
Good video boys
Yeah it's unreal.. i sold my colorado and bought a prado and my toll bill is nearly halved.. Linkt is an absolute scam
Really I don’t think my ranger gets classed as a commercial vehicle I would ring them and check that unless it’s registered under a business
@@william6815 mate they sent me a letter and told me so. Check your toll invoices. All utilities are classified as commercial and charged accordingly.... and extra. It's privately registered ever since I bought it new in 04.
@@montyfpv2259 yeah right
Victoria really is the California of Australia... that is the most ridiculous thing. But I can't say I'm shocked or surprised.
loading zones are used by little hatchbacks i know this cause im a delivery driver in mackay and get all sorts from holden barina to a massive ram parked in them rain days are worse
same but Not the Same, here in California in the USA, 6 mothers after i got a loan for a 2012 camaro V6 gets 24-35 mpg, in 2017 my state raised gas tax and registration, my registration went from 150$ to over 800$ Every year to re-register my car. because my 2 door camaro with decent gas mileage was located in a rather large city i was slapped with a gas guzzler tax for my registration. I went from having a vehicle i could afford was my 1st car with less than 25,000 miles on it, to I'm out of a job because i cant afford gas. i watched gas go from 3.43$ a gallon to 4$ than 5$ and during covid it shot up to 6$ a gallon now I'm spending 80$ every 3 days i had a 350$ payment 250$ insurance. and i only made 1200$ a month. i was left with 100$ for food and bills not related to the car. i was forced to quit my job because i could no longer afford to drive 60+ miles round trip to work and home every day. all it did was make me sit and realize after these new laws came in to play was my sate and those who run my state dont care about the people one bit only about filling there pockets so they can give eachother raises. i hope this works out better for you guys over in the AU then it did for me in the California USA
Wars have been started for less. Just saying.
I take it you meant 6 months 😂😂, if you meant 6 mother’s then you’ve been a busy lad 😂😂
Mate im contractor for QGC in qld and we drive 79 series and n80 hiluxs to all of the sites as they are majoritly off road and i can tell you now theres no getting a tesla through these roads nor little commodores and camrys. We are nearly in the same boat as trucks tbh. If trucks stop Aus stops right. Well think about my work industry obv not just mine but the whole lot of us country fellas could be earthmoving oil and gas could be heaps of different jobs but if we lose 4wd i think atleast 50% of aus would be at a high risk of losing their jobs this is just crazy lol im 18 years old mate and i know what this is going to cause these city folks are just insane.
Totally agree with everything you said. We have a 200 series and Bushtracker caravan. Worked our guts out to retire and buy them, paid taxes all our working lives but still they want to take more away from us.
I drive skip trucks in inner city of Brisbane yes it’s difficult to get down smaller streets when trades are there with there dual cabs. But if they were in smaller vehicles there would be more of them in the one street so even harder. And I manage to get the truck passed so those who complain normally are driving a small to medium vehicle and have no confidence with there judgment and get angry and expect the whole street to be empty
I don't get your reasoning for why people would buy multiple small cars just because they have room for them
Yes! I couldn’t agree more with you. I honestly can’t believe people with absolutely zero experience in off-road vehicles can make huge decisions like these.
How do you know they have no experience?
@@Ktmfan450 idk
@@Ktmfan450 By idiotic decisions?????
@@ripvanrevs Its only your opinion that they are idiotic
Love the channel, have been binge watching for weeks now. I think Shaun is right - focus the attention on the idiots on the road driving dangerously, I see it every day. Plus cost of living is too high as it is to be talking about more taxes and they're picking soft targets. Spiffy boots :-)
because vote pick labor always high tax
Gents could not agree more!! EV's are extremely heavy and cause more than their fair share of wear on our roads and do not contribute via the fuel levy!! As you say rego should be cheaper for commercially registered utes. Great chat!!
We need the big American utes so we can comply with the strict towing requirements where a standard dual cab ute struggles to tow a large trailer /caravan or boat and have passengers or items in the ute . Let us have whatever we want to drive . Thats freedom . There’s lots of things inner city people do that I do like but I deal with it
Economists and policy makers are genuinely detached from reality
For sure
Always have been. Although a big part of the problem is if they don’t spew out rhetoric in support of governments, a lot of them are out of a job.
Same here in Canada it is the ludicrous ev morons can you imagine hiring a contractor and they show up with a Honda fit with tools ladders and supplies draped all over the outside lol
Even worse in Ontario, Canada we paid $30Billion to Stalantis and VW to build EV batteries we don’t want and don’t work at -30*C
Sack this government
Trump 2024 = sane policies = maybe getting our country back.
What the hell. My brothers 56 Chevy is heavier than my 2016 Ranger. There is no way i can carry my work gear in a Yaris Hybrid. As usual the office know all makes these stupid decisions and no consultation ever. Love your work guys. Cheers
Used to work in a tiling warehouse, most young tilers had hatchbacks crammed full with all the same tools as the old guys with their huge trucks.
Not every trade needs a big vehicle.
Part of the problem is that dual cabs are now family vehicles.
Drive what you need, no more taxes!
I have a family, I also need a ute. The answer to that problem is a dual cab. So no more taxes?
9:57 goes to GST, company tax, payroll tax, etc etc. Government still gets their cut regardless.
Hi Shauno and Gray - if they take away 4x4 and trucks we will not be able to explore Australia, And farms will stop as there is no way to transport them.
And I really hope I can get one of the past boots as I have not had a new pair of boots in two years
Keep up the great work team 👍
Yes, that’s the plan, not allowing us to explore Australia and also restricting the movement out of the city in the near future. It's all about slowly introducing to 15-minute city.
So if they ban bull bars just change the name of them too roo bars.. American here. Video hits home.
100% behind you boys, living 100km south of Perth & travel to work in my BT50 which Ithen use to tow my off road van, keep up the fight.
Great video and discussion boys. Let's hope this video triggers a much, much wider response from the public. The issue in Australia is that the general public is calm and obedient enough to allow this to happen. That 'She'll be right' attitude.
You can bet the government knows this, and almost 'expects' no public outrage. This is only on the table because government knows this class of vehicle is popular, and wants to make money off it, plain and simple.
While the the whole argument is completely wrong it does bring up the fact that there does need to be a rethink on the rego system country wide. Big cars shouldn't be taxed more but if they want to incentivise small and or electric/hybrid cars they should make rego for them cheaper
Why don't they just let people decide if they want battery guzzlers or gas guzzlers without any incentives.
I mean it is good to have cleaner air in city's, so yeah we should incentives hybrids/ electrics
Think about this. The demerit system was introduced when basic speed detection devices were in play. Now the same demerit points are aplied to fixed cameras, mobile cameras, phone usage, sest belts, police have speed detection in there cars. So why is the arcaic 12 point system still in play. This whole system should be reviewed. What other act in breaking the law are you penalised multiple ways immeadiately. You get a fine. Loose points and potentialy loose your driving privelage, you steal from a shop, you get a slap on the wrist.
You need to read up on the demerit point system that is used in Australia , drivers dont lose points or “ loose ‘ points.
Drivers start on zero and accumulate demerit points. I have no idea why so many people in Australia gets this incorrect.
The end result is the same, what’s the big deal? It’s just a really stupid technicality, and again, a stupid system
@@rmwils1614The big deal is, is that people should know what they’re talking about.
@@AussieDazza That varies on a state to state basis , here in South Australia out start out with 12 demerit points on a full licence and you lose points for each time you get caught breaking a road rule and when you get to zero points your licence gets suspended . the points take 2 or three years to get reinstated to your licence and it's about 3 to 6 months till you gets some points back if your licence gets suspended by the accumulation of lost points .
@@AussieDazzaOh really, because you count up to 12 instead of down to zero that’s your gripe. No wonder the country is stuffed.
You’ve got the platform, protest !! Convoy to parliament
When half a million fuel cab utes turn up to Canberra and grind it to a complete stop I’m sure they will think twice.
Good bloody on ya, I’ve been targeting in Coffs Harbour because i had my wheel turned to the right ready to get back on the road and the copper was trying to defect me, they will make anything up to remove good cars to replace them with shitbox electric cars
Hi Guys, how about we think outside the box - take the bull bar off replace it with a hinged queensize mattress so if you hit anyone ( all good - soft & comfy ) then as you know everything has to have at least two uses in the bush , so at night you fold down the mattress by the hinged mechanism for a good night's sleep also a possible ( genius ) third use - attach a broom to the bottom edge of the mattress & sweep the road while your driving , cheers Phil
Absolutely amazing seeing some old faces again especially Grahams😂
A fun fact. In New South Wales a 200kg box trailer costs $70 per year to register, but a 3.2 tonne Tri-axle converter Dolly used in a Road Train costs $56 per year to register - and the Dolly can be used in a 82.5 tonne Road Train for commercial purposes.
Haha - Lets see the average dualcab tow that (not totally negligible ball weight) - show the lads how limited their little TDi really is.
- Lets rate the GVM - that's what we are paying for here... (Gross axle group Loading 700kg (unbraked) vs 20T - on the dolly as par of the roadtrain gross ~131T + on a Tridrive full tri-axle BAB Quad rig or Triple Train (2A) - (some run higher weights on some tables)...) ...
AND a Dolly converter is pretty useless without the roadtrain, tell all the boys and girls what a Roadtrain Primemover costs to Register....
Probably fair when the Road Train prime mover costs nearly $13k pa and each trailer is another $1900 on top of that.
I think I can shed some light on the write off part of the article. In the US you can write off an entire vehicle purchase if that vehicle is above 6000 lbs. if it’s below, you can’t. I believe you can only write off the first $12k. There’s a similar law in Australia. If the payload is over 1000kg or seats 9 people, you can write off up to $150,000. But if not, it’s considered a passenger car and you can only write off $57k. Don’t quote me on the specifics, but I’m fairly certain I have the broad strokes of it. Thanks guys love your videos.
About 30 years ago in Victoria we had a off road tax on the rego which helped we state forestry road maintained
As a technician worker that does fit off work if we could park in the 3 basements levels that can hold 1-200 cars we would be removing the cars from public roads. But they dont allow us to park down there.
I live in a rural area I have not seen once a American Ute tow anything more than a caravan or have anything in the back of them, they all have tubs and we all know how useless a tub is for work and are perfectly clean and it shows that they are just used as a show car and tax right off.
I have no issues with the stand size of Ute. but lets be honest a 2wd Ute could do the job of 80% of peoples work and if you live in the city it would most likely go up to 99%
plus if your buying a American Ute they are like 150K they get like 12L per 100 so what's an extra $1000 a year, its not like you cant afford it.
Bull bars have never been crash tested from factory and the airbags and safety systems won't operate properly to keep occupants safe as without a bull bar. Would you rather keep your family safe as possible or stop your car getting damaged by a Roo? I understand the benefits of a bull bar like adding a winch and spoties but it is a safety compromise. 👍
Recently saw a Toyota 100 series with the bullbar bent into a triangle dead centre of bonnet and the car was written off. Showed interior and the airbags did not deploy, so your argument definitely has merit.
I would encourage everyone to read the article and come back to this video
Few days ago I drove into the city in my LANDCRUISER 105 series and 4 times I was Cut off by small Cars . I Noticed that Some Small cars are very Dangerous 😳 Zipping through Traffic LIKE there on a Race Track !
Kind Regards 🇦🇺
I reckon it’s a great idea. They are the most offensive cars on the road. Get massive tires and a bull bar, winch with orange tracks attached to the roof and your jerrycan so you can cross all of those big river sections in Bexley and parramatta.
It's because they know its the best selling segment of vehicle in Australia, thus more tax dollars. Also, that group is called the Greens 😂
This is the first I've heard about it.
I bought a dual cab Triton as I have a growing family, use my vehicle to take tools to customer locations for work, pick up and drop off CFMoto SXS (I'm a dealer) and take the family camping (avoids the need for a trailer at this time).
I couldn't do my job without a large vehicle capable of towing over a tonne through a paddock so yes I need 4wd as well.
I sell a lot of vehicles to famers and they do break down in the field and some are hobby farmers that don't have another vehicle to tow their own stuff out.
I can't say I've ever parked in a loading zone for a quick stop at the shop as it's not what it's there for.
If they think bigger vehicle makes more noise then those people have never heard a Harley Davidson.
The biggest issue is these inner city, hand moisturising, "meat comes from the supermarket" bastards have never worked with their hands or done any physical labour so they think they know better.
It's not just tradies or 4wd owners getting the shit covered end of the stick either. The government is trying to take away all our rights and freedoms!
Agee 100% with your comments guys. Again the squeaky wheel makes all the noice. Bloody crazy. They’ll be screwed without their “lattes” and full bins 😂
Hey guys,
It’s terrible to think they would seriously charge higher taxes for 4wds! Im 15 and I bought my first project car, 1981 RN46 Hilux, when I had only just turned 14! Working my first part time job to be able to rebuild my ride before I am licensed. I’m also studying at school as well as electrotechnologies at Tafe to become an electrician. My car is my project now but will be my daily driver for work when the time comes. As a kid on apprentice wages, its hard enough let alone paying more for driving a car that I’m passionate about!
I’m right with you guys, lets fight a good fight on this!!
What a great suggestion on the incentives for apprenticeships. Get them into trades! Loved the leggo as well. Grandkids look out