4 Things that SABOTAGE your healing from a narcissistic relationship
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Healing from narcissistic abuse is a lot like going through grief. The only way out is through.
Yes. I am in grief stage. Lots of tears 😢 and it's so easy to start questioning your decision to walk away
Even slowly
@@mischelemiller5020"The race is not always to the swift but to those who keep on running."
I once read it on a poster with the word "Success" on it.
I don't think you necessarily have to run. And it's not an easy path to begin with. As long as you keep heading in the right direction.
@@stacielosso5401If you aren't familiar with the stages of grief (there are 5 or 7 depending on what version you get ahold of) there are a lot of similarities between healing from loss due to a death of a loved one and healing from narcissistic abuse; denial, anger, bargaining...
And just because you have gone through some stages doesn't mean you won't cycle through them again. Don't see it as a relapse or failure. It's a process and everyone's grief, everyone's experience with narcissistic abuse is different.
The end result should always be the same: acceptance, but more importantly, healing.
I'm so sad
I left after 20 years. My only regret is that I didn’t leave sooner. Never been happier and the thought of someone getting the best version of him never even crossed my mind. I couldn’t care less.
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Agree 💯
You speak my mind.
I left after 19 yrs. Been seperated 9 weeks and the struggle is real!! 😢
@@catieoliva2192 hang in there hun. It gets better. Lean into your support system.
The more you forgive them, the more and more they repeat the same thing.
It’s really a never ending toxic cycle because they will NEVER change. As Dr. Ramani has taught, it’s a personality style. Especially if they’re grandiose narcissists then their personality works for them. Only thing to do is go no contact or grey rock if they’re the parent of your child.
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I don’t think that’s forgiving. It’s accepting their behavior and your unwillingness to leave them because of the trauma bond.
The definition of forgiveness is not about telling someone it’s okay what they’ve done to you. It’s letting go of the suffering they’ve inflicted upon you and moving on to have a better life for yourself!
Good observation. Being with a narcissist is like being on a merry-go-round.
@laurapearl4196 the thing for me is, there were plenty excuses. Yeah okay you worked 12 to 18 hours, you were tired and cranky, you wete emotional, it was a slip of the tongue. And she'd say she loves me and she'll do anything for my well being. When i ask something of her, she calmly explains she has no time, she cant do that, but she can give me money to take care of it, then uses that money later to say its all because of me. Everything is because of me. Only when all these dynamics disappeared and she no longer has any excuses did it become very clear that she never had any intentions to have a loving relationship with me. Work wasnt getting in the way. She chose work to run away from any family responsibilities. She never chooses to go visit my sister, then berates me saying i need to accompany her visiting my sister and its all my fault they cant see each other. Theres all these nuanced dynamics where the situation had to be clear of any excuses for me to realize what she is. Forgiveness for me was deciding i know you're trying your best but you werent perfect. I accept your imperfections, even if it hurts me, so that i can keep you in my life.
After having clarity, theres nothing to forgive. I had FONDE, so I DID try everything, and i know for sure now theres absolutely nothing further to see here. I forgive her for being who she is. But nothing will ever change my mind and make me want her back in my life. I have nothing to gain and so much to lose.
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That’s the worst is loosing 30 years of my life. Passed up great men for this.
Ditto!
35 and ditto
18 years here. I had my first get away 2yrs into the marriage then I took him back and years later I look back… it wasn’t totally wasted. I have two wonderful kids but downfall is those two plus my older kids saw so much toxicity… my youngest didn’t see as much as the older ones so my biggest thing is teaching her do not let anyone mess with “her” reality. Not even me…
I may have had a good man weeks before I took him back. 😔 I’ll never know.
Me too
The one thing you can’t get back is your TIME!!! These idiots are taking our time while we’re wasting our time when we stay with them cuz they are NOT going to change …
Carpet of eggshells
Repository of cruelty
You are a Shakespeare too, Doc. I love you.
Great descriptions!!
And modern too with FONTE and IWAT. ❤
MY REGRET IS ALSO THAT I SPENT TOO MUCH TIME TRYING. I WAS WILLING TO INVEST AND TRY WHEN IT WAS MISERABLE!
Same here. Trying and failing and blaming myself, till someone came along and explained to me that he is literally missing a part of the brain that is responsible for compaction
@@matilda1505 I envy you. I am trying to help somebody I am dating with and love her, but she is struggling. He is very abusive and puts all blame on her, using all the tricks to convice her she should get back (as she is stupid searching for something he gave her, or she does evil thing leaving him, or she is killing him, and so on). It is difficult and verz exhausting even listening to this all.
Same here! Now after all the years of psychological abuse I live like a recluse and try to avoid any social interactions.
OMG, I am doing this, too, Sara!@@sara.e.1111
There’s a level on which I am grateful for my now defunct relationship because it really forced me to confront my history of trauma bonding and to become more aware of the role I play in selling myself out in these relationships and maybe at the ripe old age of 63 I am finally in a position to stop doing it again and again and again.
Same age here … can really resonate with your comment.
54
56
72 yrs old, 51 yrs married to a very secretive narc. I have been deluding myself for decades.
Yep! 62 here and so many crazy opportunities to have gotten swayed by yet another !@$#& narcissist…boundary up and lots of Dr Ramani, journaling, and reading. It does not feel safe out there in this world right now.
It will take the rest of my life, however long that is, to recover and heal from my abuse as it changed me at my core and i have had to learn who i am again. 🍒
stay strong. The fact Dr Ramani has 1.7 million subscribers shows that these disorders are widespread and the cause, not you. You're not alone. We have all suffered from them. You did nothing wrong.
@@jasec2252 Thank you.
Amen to that. I don’t like who I became
Yes the hardest part is how it leaves you feeling like you never knew your own self
That is the current journey I am too! It has shaken me to the core and I don’t even know what I am and who I am or what I like bc of narc abuse mother
Dr Ramani you helped me so much. 2 years ago I found your videos and realised what I'd been through for the last 37 years.
I 've been separated from my covert narcissist husband for 2 and half years now. Have my own lovely house, lots of friends and a good life.
Divorce completed through yesterday. I never want to see him again. I'm sorry I had children with him.
Luckily I'm not against men and have met some wonderfully nice men.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you Dr Ramani. You gave me a new life to live
My story exactly, and I have been out for about 2 years. Not divorced, but we live separately, which provides me with a feeling of peace and decency that I could not have if living in the same home.
When an issue arose and I tried to verbally show that I was trying to understand his position, my former husband of 19 years used to say to me, "Don't psychoanalysis me!" There really is no winning with them.
Same exact situation! Finally out!
Omg. Literally verbatim what my husband would say “don’t psycho-analyze me. Stop trying to diagnose me”
Like I was trying to understand you …
Yup my husband whenever I tell him my feelings and ask him to communicate his feelings, boundaries and needs, told me after he flew into a rage about it "the next time you feel like doing an impromptu therapy session on me, don't."
Omg... you've said everything i went through. 10 years of just losing myself, severe repeated infidelity from him, emotional abuse, gaslighting breadcrumming. The sayings are even the same! We went camping to outback Australia and he would not even sit and watch the stars with me. Thats one of the reasons we went for! Too intimate for him or something. He'd disappear for a night and if i questioned him he'd say i don't need this crap, i'll be happier to live in my van. So i said go! For good this time. Its been 10 months and such a hard road. I've lost so many people who lost patience with me taking him back so many times. I thiught they would come back but those friendships are over. My circle has shrunk to just a few people but thats ok. Its peaceful! I've come out of the depression mostly but i dont know how to face the future. He circles back occasionally testing waters and while i've finally got that he wont change, the trauma bond is the hardest to get out of. 😢
It's time to put yourself 1st, empower yourself.
Yes, it's going to be tough initially, but believe me( I have experienced it, now 5yrs free,)
Peace, kindness and your good friends will support you, the others...... drop them.
You deserved so much more. You have a lot more to offer someone in future, than he ever will. I wish you well.
That was helpful to hear.
Yes this is exactly what I'm going through friendships over because of me cutting them off going back to him. So I'ma take this jorney alone.
@keyonatownsend I'm so sorry. I absolutely understand. I guess in a way though we are not alone in this type of community and these videos are a great help and reminder too. Also support groups on Facebook are good too . But I do miss the friendships I had..geez I was silly. In hindsight.
In my own experience, I have learned that healing is not a quick fix or one size fits all for anyone who has endured this type of abuse. Being 66 years old, I have kept my eye on the big picture through this ordeal. Whether I live for 2 days, 2 years or 40 years, I will use the time to live MY best life and will not let it be defined by a sick and twisted individual to prevent me from doing so. Thank you, Dr. Ramani.
Me too.
@@cherrybacon3319 May you enjoy the peace, joy, beauty and happiness as you continue along your journey of life. ❤
Same 66. Living my best life and knowing that some bad days will still arrive.
I'm proud of you!
@@CTCAL I am proud of all the victims and survivors who are putting in the time and work towards healing from this abuse. I am especially grateful to the experts who dedicate their time, heart, mind, body and soul to provide folks from all over the world to educate, provide clarity and the tools to help us along the way. That is a beautiful gift. ❤
💯 the narcissistic sister in law who is repeatedly unapologetically abusive and damaging to us all, yet never faces consequences, and I am shamed and blamed for not wanting to be around her. Super messed up. I don’t care what they think, I will protect my health. Thank you Dr Ramani ❤
@@costelloandlizzievolk2233 I can relate to this.
It kicks butt that you chose to distance yourself and get away from the toxic darkness. Go you and keep it up!
Same with a twist thanks to these videos and Dr. Iñaki Piñuel in Spain got the rest of the party to open their eyes.Lets Keep it up!
I have one of those too, and she's blocked in every way from contacting me. Idgaf what anyone else thinks about it and at family functions, I just pretend she doesn't exist unless I absolutely have to. Then it's grey rock. She gets zero emotion and only surface level responses.
I thought I was the only one who had a sister-in-law like this. It has been a hell for the last 39 years. I try to be around her as little as possible but husband is the flying monkey. My coping skills now are that I just don’t care anymore. The can be up each other b*** where the sun never shines and I wish them happiness. It does leave you bitter but I know there is a better life out there.
Been divorced for 7 years, after 24 years of marriage. He’s still hoovering, smear campaigning and my daughter is his target to get info and to control me. I don’t talk to him and live in a bubble of friends I trust. My daughter is totally stressed and because I don’t do what he tells me through her. He’s gaslighting and manipulating her. It’s terrible but I can’t give in.
What an AH.. my ex did that with my teenage son which confused him so much.. he could only see through his father only when he turned 25 years and by then I was out of their lives
@@elle2437 my daughter's going threw the same
Your story highlights that they never change, and that their next 10 victims won't get a better version of them.
A healthy person would move on after 7 years and want to co-parent effectively. Good luck and don't give in.
They will not change leave and get off the crazy train. Don’t give them anymore of your precious life ❤
After I filed for divorce we lived in the same house until it was finalized. My now ex-mother in law called me and told me I needed to move out, then called again to tell me I needed to "try harder" because she was worried he might "do something..."
I told her if she was so worried he might do something horrible, maybe she should encourage HIM to move out.
God protected me and our teenage son and continues to guide each of us through healing 🙏 ❤
Glad you’re here. ❤
@@jodycasey6936 thank you! Been listening to Dr Ramani for a few years. It’s always healing ❤️🩹
Glad you’re here too 😁
So happy for you and your son ❤️ God bless 🙌 🙏 ❤️
@@SherryWilson-dk7bo thank you! 🙏 truly it was by the grace of God. Not everyone experiences a good outcome. We will both continue healing probably for the rest of our lives.
I pray God allows both of us to use this to help others 💕🙏
May God bless you too!
@@bekind7288yes you will God is with you two prayers.
PS. I absolutely love the cameo from your cat. Listening to you talk and watching your cat come and relax on your lap gives me this special serene feeling. Thank you both 💓
I agree. Four years ago I was watching one of her videos, same thing happened, her cat jumped in her lap while she was filming. Needless to say, I was hooked!
I love how you said the cat gives you a special serene feeling ❤
@anitah3258 I love how Dr. Ramani never missed a beat as her cat catted, too. 💯💖😻
Ask them to do something for you. Something small. Something you would do for them with no hesitation. If they are narcissistic or otherwise toxic, it will ALWAYS go at least 1 of 4 ways (though sometimes these reactions may compound): They will act as though they didn’t hear you. Depending on how long you’ve been in the relationship, you may ask again. If it’s been long enough, you’re likely to drop the request right then and there.
They will promise to do it, but never follow through.
If you ask again or remind them, they will usually have some kind of excuse. In these cases, they will still never actually fulfill their promise. Their excuse is not a reason for lagging, it is the reason they should be absolved from all expectation whatsoever. Often this excuse will be meaningless or an outright lie.If you don’t buy their excuse, and tell them so, you will experience the wonderful segue into reaction.
An argument will ensue
The argument will be your fault. It could be a small back and forth contending against your request, or it might quickly devolve into them screaming at you. You never know which it will be. They might even say outright that you should never ask or expect anything from them. Usually they will express that you are asking too much, hurting them in some way (financially, emotionally, insulting them, etc), or attack your character.
The argument will only end when you relinquish your request + apologize, or start ignoring them completely. If you can ignore them long enough, they may apologize to you. However, the conflict will never feel truly resolved.
At this juncture they may actually end up giving you what you asked for. Often this does require you admitting that you don’t really need it, or that you would be fine with what they suggested instead. This leads us to reaction
They give you what you asked for, BUT
There is ALWAYS a catch. It might be small. They show up late with no apology. They buy you what you wanted, but it’s the wrong color, model, brand, etc. They take you where you wanted to go, but pressure you the whole time you’re getting ready because you’re going to be sooo late. Then they want to leave early anyway. It might be worse. They do it out of anger, and make a big display out of it to scare/hurt you. They hold it over your head until you do something for them first. Or, later on, they use it against you. “I did x for you, so you should do y for me.” No matter what, you never actually feel fulfilled, happy, or loved when they do something for you. Somehow, even from the getgo, there was this deep-seated feeling of guilt and fear, this sense that the “special” things they were doing for you weren’t so special at all. Eventually, you become afraid to ask for anything. You’ve been conditioned to believe you deserve nothing. Ironically, or not, the less demands you make, the worse you will be treated. Moreover, Catching a cheating spouse might be difficult, and knowing what local laws say you can and cannot do might be even more difficult. To simplify the process, consider hiring a private investigator to do the sleuthing for you I genuinely appreciate how incredible you are and your work! Thank you for a job well done digitalinvestigate@gmail.com
In this video Doctor Ramani acknowledges some very important points: 1) You DO NOT have to forgive your narcissist, 2) No, you CANNOT just meditate or yoga your pain away, 3) In some cases you CANNOT just pick up and leave the abuser completely, and 4) You CANNOT give your healing a time limit.
People who try to micromanage you into your healing either have never experienced narcissistic abuse, can't recognize narcissistic abuse or are narcissists themselves.
Thank you for taking the points down. 🗒✍
Yes, very spot on.
Absolutely spot-on. These have been very important points for me.
I guess my situation is a little different. My narcissistic and physical abuser was my high school sweetheart and the one I always missed for 20 years. Well now I know exactly what I missed and I can finally close that chapter and never wonder what if again! It's been 4 miserable years and I kept thinking it must be my karma for someone I hurt in my past or something. But these videos have helped me immensely! I now recognize it for exactly what it is and am planning my way out as I type! Thank you Dr. Ramani! Your help is priceless and so appreciated!!!! ❤❤❤ Stay strong everyone! The sun will shine again! God bless!
@@lauraswingle I do believe some people make it their business to want you to believe it's karma catching up to you. I also believe there is a big difference between karma and retaliation brought about by mean-spirited people who want to punish you for wrongdoings real or imagined by such petty people.
Godspeed in your healing!
Hey,love your videos! I got out of a narcissistic relationship 5 years ago! Your videos helped me!
41 years ago the narcissist left. A few days ago all the feelings of grief came up in front of a best friend as i told her about the narcissist. I guess i had been carrying that for 41 years. My friend was compassionate and understanding and loving.
J.O.M.O : Joy of missing out 😅 🙌🏼
Forgiveness does not mean reconciliation. Thank you for all your videos.
It’s over ❤ all the madness clears like a fog 🌫️ one day at a time
Stick with it - your sanity is worth it !
Can’t see it until you walk thru it ❤
"Future faking yourself"... WOW! Yes!!
Thank you So Very Much For Sharing This The 4 Things That Sabotage My Healing From Narcissitic Abuse Was
1/ Ruminating /Sadness
2/ Shame
3/My Mental health Issues
4/ Confusion Wanting Answers
Yes. I echo that advice. It is appropriately comparable to the return of a prisoner of war needing deep deprogramming. I think there is a word to describe what I’m saying… but just to emphasize that it IS like a super virus that has infiltrated every cell in your brain AND the cells in your body. Their voice is embedded in every cell of your existence. It takes a long time Just dedicated (professionally and/or systematically) to finding, recognizing, and separating their voice from your own.
This one step of starting an investigation and unveiling their voice from yours and of separating their voice can lead to healing in all areas you’ve mentioned. This happened to me as well -exactly as you’ve stated.
1,2,3,&4 are all rooted in how programmed we were. In my journey I discovered their voice in 100’s areas that I would have never guessed existed. The process of discovery had a duel effect of finding myself and gaining agency.
Thank you Dr Ramini for actually saying out loud that healing of a narcissist relationship takes more time. It has been 15 years from a Narcissitic marriage of 26 years (32 years from age 16 to 50) to RECOVER and HEAL from that relationship!! I am happy. I am single. Loving being alone and having life choices!! Just have to figure out how to start a career at age 64 as I have not recovered financially.
Hear you 😢
I've been going to my local worksource center. Great resource.
I think to believing ourselves is the hardest.When everybody is making like you belong to them but you know,no...I don't belong to abuse.
I belong to safety and intelligent people.
It's hard to believing ourselves while others don't.Very surreal to believing ourselves having no pattern to it but it's possible.
Finding this channel is a godsend. 🙏
@@lornayuen7444 it really is! She’s the best! ♥️
Get her 📚📖
Absolutely. Her videos have helped me sooo much. Always grateful 🙏
Edging closer to therapy and a transformation. To need someone else to validate what you've known deep down magnifies self doubt.
Yes. I echo that advice. It is appropriately comparable to the return of a prisoner of war needing deep deprogramming. I think there is a word to describe what I’m saying… but just to emphasize that it IS like a super virus that has infiltrated every cell in your brain AND the cells in your body. Their voice is embedded in every cell of your existence. It takes a long time Just dedicated (professionally and/or systematically) to finding, recognizing, and separating their voice from your own.
Feelings are difficult to be with, at times staying with feelings is immensely painful, thank you DrRamini for the encouragement
I have fear of making it through the storm and keeping my sanity.
I understand that completely
Keep your attention focused on your eventual prize…peace of mind…and your freedom to just be. It’s taken me years…and I’m never going back!!!
I did too. But it also shows you your strength (and I still have un-sane days). Even one supportive person to talk to who loves you helps immensely. Thank goodness for my dad and my BFF, they get me through the worst of it!
@@sushmayen it can feel unnerving when our emotional stability seems to fluctuate with no immediately discernible reason. It is like waves, as others have described.
In dealing with it all I refused to worry about what I ate. I’d deal with that later.
Only after listening to testimonies from people who started carnivore way of eating did I decide to give it a go.
I’m not perfect, but my joint pain, feeling triggered, sense of victimization…almost completely resolved. I am so very grateful to God. One step at a time I continue to heal. Learning from Dr. Ramani has also been a Godsend.
One favorite channel is No Carb Life with Dave Mac. I love to hear people’s life stories and transformations 🥰
Maybe you can find some freedom too…praying for you 💕🙏
You can do it, take care of yourself, reach out to whatever support you have! Many people have made it through to the other side, so you can too! I am in a very bad spot after a year already broken up from my ex, but I'm starting to slowly see the light again. I know I can heal myself and push through.
It’s been 5.5 weeks since the discard and I’m still crying. I can’t take it and was worried I was taking to long to heal. Thank u dr Ramani
It's NOT a Quick Fix - sorry to tell You that BUT You have started a New path and New Journey which is more healthy than beeing with a toxic narcissist 🙏
Take one step - and ond step etc. You are in good comoany if You listen to DR Ramani and trying to move forward 🤗🌹💞
Healing takes time and work so put in the work on yourself, you are worth it ❤️✨️🙏🙌
I'm crying like crazy since a year. It's a daily surviving challenge 😭much love from Germany ❤
You take the time you need, and we support you!! 🫂💞🫂💞 you did nothing wrong, these people are sick and demonic!
Persevering in Prayers Psalms 1-150🙌👑😇🙏My sympathic Nervous System still recovering, 20 years dumped/discarded. Knowledge of narcissistic abuse in 2023 from Dr. Ramani 🙏🙏🙏
I’m so ready to just be free to breathe without having someone standing over you nonstop
Took me 2 years to get out of psychological warfare. I’m still not there
It does get better.... and then, as soon as I thought I am "fine", something happens and I slide all the way down again, into that pile of horse manure. And pick myself up Again, and move forward Again...
Learning to love myself through it all. Hope you can too.
@@joysachs9032 god bless you. Same ! Just when I thought I had it , whoop backslide . Sending you love
Grief someone that is alive is harder.
So true
Had a narc mom, not to mention what came after. It was poison in my life and now in middle age, I’m still working to heal and understand it all. Thank you for all that you do. The permission piece you speak about made me stop in my tracks! Thank you. I don’t forgive for that level of destruction. I’m looking forward to reading your new book.
0:22 Fear of trying everything
10:01 Pressure to forgive the narcissist
17:28 Micromanaging your healing
28:47 Intellectualizing instead of feeling
It's been 3 years since no contact and I'm still not healed. It's better now, but idk if it will ever truly NOT hurt.
I understand this. I feel the same.
Three years for me also. The pain, for me, has moved into healthy anger. It took a loooooong time to evolve into anger. And I go to the river and throw rocks sometimes as a way to catapult that anger out of my body. I can’t do that until I fully feel it!
I've found peace in giving over the judgment for the narc abusers in my life to my Higher Power. I can't quite forgive them. Frankly, they're awful people and they don't deserve it. So I relinquish it entirely. It's the only way I've found peace.
RT Kendall, Total Forgiveness.... incredible book. Empowering
I love your words, “relinquish it entirely.”
Yes! “Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written: “VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY,” says the Lord.”Roman’s 12:19
Same. And I won’t be shamed by others.
Some things are unforgivable. And sometimes forgiveness isn’t possible without acknowledgement, remorse, and/or changed behavior. You can move on without “forgiving.”
If you want to forgive and can-that’s great, too. But our society’s shallow approach to this concept is actually more often a form of victim-blaming and enabling.
The people who are too nice, care and love too much are the ones who usually end up alone.
I'm sure singing was originally created from narcissistic abuse. It's kinda ironic how something so beautiful came out of something so evil.
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@@emineyalcn9514 I have a weakness of projecting better intentions onto people than they deserve. Narcissists especially get emboldened from giving them the benefit of doubt.
Great comment:
Singing as result of Narcissistic Abuse.
David wrote the Psalms because he was being persecuted by Saul.
If you want comfort~
READ the Psalms, it's very eye opening as it shows how God really understands us and protects His children. There is great Healing in His Word.🙏🙏🙏❤
@@lindagayler6787Amazing Grace…
@@lindagayler6787 Thanks 👍
I wish I found your channel 10 years ago 😂. The progress is exponentially faster now.
Life is before and after, watching Dr.Ramani content... Can't thank her enough, dear Dr.Ramani you're the angel sent by the Universe in millions of lives... Knowledge is power, when it comes to Narcissistic relationships.
Yep, I asked him to move back in after 18 months apart. 5 years later I filed for divorce...3 months after getting married thinking maybe he felt I was not committed, and feeling guilty because I knew better than to live with a man outside of marriage.
It's been 2 years since then. I bought him out of the house, our son lives with me and I thank God he sees his dad's behavior.
I let him decide when and if he went to stay at his dad's. Ultimately, the horrible behavior put a wedge between them. So sad, but so happy my now teenage son could discern the truth. Praise God.
Amen! I am finally doing what I’ve been wanting my entire life. I started trying everything when I was a teenager because of my narc mother. I’ve taken diving classes. 10 meters is high. I worked at Disneyland. I took ballet to be on pointe. Now that I’m divorced I want to make my own decisions over my life, including mistakes. People I’ve met here in France are amazed of what I’m doing. My fearlessness is from my grandma. I am also more afraid of what’s inside the house
WE LOVE DR RAMANI 🙌
Everyone who went through this should watch these videos they are very educating!
They could get away but. Karma will get them one way or another.
Their own lack of inner peace and love never changes. No karma needed
Yes that's true
There is no karma in real life. Lol
@@_iam1533 well then let’s see if they get into heaven.
Thank you. My rose colored glasses came off a month or so ago after 11 years. Even though I realize that I am not a professional and its not fair to call him a narcissist as I am not a professional.. your videos is making this process easier. I actually feel less alone even though we haven't met. I have felt scared alone and stuck for a long time, and admittedly I am still there, but I am starting to see my own self again, and the treatment I get isn't ok.... but this Rapid Acceptance is a bitch. I'm still hoping everything will get better.
I was married to the narc for 10 years. I got out 6 years ago...I promise you, it will get better. Find your passion, find your joy, and steal your soul BACK. ❤
This is the only Chanel that’gets’ it. And I am so grateful to have found it 6 months ago. 💛
The brutal yet necessary truth in Dr. Ramani’s videos becomes even more evident and relatable the more time and space I put between myself and The Abuser, The Betrayer, and the Zombie Enablers. As many DV/DA and NA (narcissistic abuse) survivors know all too well, in order to recover, we must radically reprogram ourselves. As a compassionate, trauma-informed therapist, Dr. Ramani brings balance and sanity to our recovery journeys. 🙏🏽
The best thing that I have found is not to talk to them after leaving because it will make you fall back into the trap. You can not change anyone but, yourself! 🙏🙏🙏
I feel like there are so many narcissists . Because of being raised in a generation where child abuse was not really addressed. Neighbors didn’t get involved. Feelings made us weak and never talked about. We grew up love starved and groomed to except terrible treatment as love . Some of us became perfect for narcissists to use . We go on to damage our children and start a whole new cycle. The whole suck it up . What didn’t kill you makes you stronger. BS was belittling. Wish healing was more important than to stay quiet and dealing with it !
My answer was: “I forgive you … AND my boundaries are not changing.“ (I’m letting it go … for me, so it doesn’t fester, BUT trust has been destroyed, it is never going to be safe again, so my boundaries are permanent … also for me.)
There is no better version of them!! Thank u dr. Ramani- queen❤
Yep! To everything you said!
Thank you for these valuable insights. I am really glad I’ve kept a daily journal - have since 1992. Yep, all the narcissistic hijinks with four different fellas I dated after my husband’s death were exhaustively documented. It was a real-for-reality check to reread the entries (particularly to a third party).
I like what my grandfather’s favorite philosopher Marcus Aurelius said. “The first thing is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second thing is to look things in the face and know them for what they are.” I’ve gotten a crash course in that over the past couple of years.
I’m still trying to get out. It’s been so hard😢
The information is invaluable; however, the hilarious way in which you impart it is so appreciated! I feel myself laughing through the pain because you’re so funny! IWAT is something I’ll forever use… :)
You helped me dodge a Narcissistic person. Thank you Dr. Ramani.
I remarried my ex after the love bombing and all that comes with that.
Of course, all the behaviors that caused the first divorce returned. So now I have two divorces with the same person. That is a hard pill to swallow.
So much regret.
As the quote goes- when someone shows you who they are, believe them, the first time.
my sister did the same thing. Nobody could talk her out of either marriage. They were together until she was in her mid 40s. Then he kept doing things to motivate her to spend time with him and the kids. Now he's been dead for years and she is so much easier to be around. She was a little nutty after her 2nd divorce and way nuttty while she was with him. Good luck with all the regret. I really enjoy her now. She's one of my favorite people now. You might get benefits you hadn't even thought you might, by leaving him. Try to cut him entirely out of your life.
Forgiveness is for the person doing the forgiving. It’s part of healing. But it is not about forgetting; we live and learn and hopefully profit from the experience. Nor is forgiveness about absolution; the narcissist still deserves consequences. But we don’t need to let them live rent free in our hearts and minds forever. Respectfully submitted.
On the forgiveness aspect of this, sometimes you forgiving the perpetrator, can be a betrayal to oneself. It's just another aspect of you making the needs of the narcissist more important than your own.
So many people don't understand what forgiveness is.😢
I agree. How can anyone forgive a narcissist when they have abused you, especially if it’s a lifetime of abuse.
I get “forgiving” them because they didn’t know any better, but it’s their problem not ours for doing the abusing. We are victims and shouldn’t have to keep putting up with it anymore, especially when you keep telling the narc how their behaviour is affecting you, how they can be a better person, and if they ignore that then just run for the hills.
@mamame5519 I understand that forgiveness is for myself. However, after decades of abuse, not forgiving is also for myself and as equally important. Religion has kind of messed us up in certain ways. Forgiving, turning the other cheek, is what has kept many of us stuck in these nightmare relationships. It's time for me to choose myself!
After going total no contact for thr last 3 yrs, life is wonderful, peaceful. And just plain, no living, no deceit, no betrayal, no questioning of my sense of safety. Life is so much better. No second guessing myself. So thankful for you Dr.R. A great help!❤
Thank you so much Dr. Ramani, you helped me more than anybody understanding what happened. I am still on my journey to heal and slowly getting there. Keep on creating content like this - it means the world to many people out there. Thank you so much (from the other side of the world) :)
F.O.N.T.E!! I am loving these acronyms, Dr. Ramani! ❤
Thank you for validating that forgiving someone who has hurt your family is almost impossible as they don't face any consequences. And we live with the wounds.
Dr. Ramini, I’ve recommended your channel to so many people. Including recommendations to my attorneys and former therapists. If you hire an attorney for a divorce tie your attorney to chair and make them watch your channel. It is unprofessional not to know who you are representing and who is the other person. My attorneys didn’t do that. I think these shows didn’t go to therapists but to attorneys, police, judges. Education on this is the best weapon against it.
Oh, yes. I wish we could make it a law that those professional people you mentioned have to study and pass tests about narcissism, showing they really understand it.
I once told my X that I needed his level of evil to push me in therapy . I’ve discovered so much positive things about myself. I’ve healed and kept my kids mentally healthy even through 15 years of parental alienation .
My narc passed away this year from cancer. I took care of him from beginning to end and did more for him than his own parents. At the funeral, I overheard he badmouthed me and our home horribly to his parents, friends and co-workers telling them he would divorce me as soon as he got better… His father was even trying to set him up with someone while we were in the hospital waiting room to meet with the oncologist! It’s been a strange grief period. I mourn what I thought I had yet it meant nothing to him.
If I could give advice to anyone in a narcissistic relationship, I would tell them to get out asap. Even when facing death, their grandiosity, lack of empathy, selfishness, and devaluation were present. It’s totally not worth it to stay with them. There is no FOMO. Only years wasted.
My healing is really affecting my new marriage. He just doesn’t get what I went through in my previous marriage of 20 yrs.
Why did you not take more time for your yourself and your own healing before starting a new relationship and then marriage on top of it?
Congrats. Maybe you both need marriage counseling.
New husband wasn't present in the previous 20 year marriage, he's not responsible for it. It isn't anyone else's job to carry our personal emotional baggage.
Don’t expect that he gets what you went through, because this is your personal experience and grieve. But you can ask him to support you in your process of healing, giving you time to find the real YOU again, and grow along your OWN path to happiness. In the end this will have a good effect on your new marriage too ❤
I only understood what went wrong with the first 2 marriages after marrying a 3rd. And we still didn't have the terms narc abuse, gaslighting, etc. But I certainly knew I needed healing. I didn't know any better and expected my 3rd husband to understand that I was in recovery. I told him it would be difficult before we married and he was sure he could handle it. What turned out to be his version of "handling it" was to pressure me non-stop to quit the grieving and make every day "criticize-my-wife day." He was a covert narc and very different from the overt narcs I had been with. I hope that hasn't happened to you. Do not let him make you feel guilty because you still have grieving to do. And you might do it differently than he would in your place. It's not his job to judge you, but to support you. Do not stay with him if you aren't safe to be you. Safety in relationships is primary. I got away from him after 16 months together, but it has taken me 3 decades so far to heal from the damage that he and my narcissistic mother did to me. Please get away if that's what's called for. If he is supportive and non-judgmental, you've won the lottery! Love and appreciate him to pieces.
Thank you for this. People in normal relationships don’t understand that it’s not just a broken heart after a break up. It’s trying to get yourself back, after being co-opted; it is dealing with grief like death, but worse than death, without your self being intact. You often have PTSD from the separation from the person who co-opted you and infiltrated you in ways so insidious that you sometimes even internalize their cruelty toward you and start being self destructive. You sometimes find yourself acting like the narcissist in your responses and reactions, even how you hold a conversation may be different, because you are conditioned to look out for land mines or to respond with matched anger energy or antagonism. It’s really complex and sick. Thank you for these videos that are very therapeutic, as they give the victim of a narc the reassurance and the support that they need (and the new logic they need to apply to self talk and behavior). Thank you for validating the experience of being abused and for validating the complexity of healing from such a toxic relationship that has become part of your mind and personality, not just space in your heart or years of your life.
I love your wisdom Dr. Ramani and your kitty wanting to look into the camera is such a precious moment. I am 67-years old and have been recovering from many many years of narcissism after watching your presentations for the past 4-years. Ever so grateful and love reading your book "It's Not You"
This was probably one of the most helpful videos I’ve watched. I ended my relationship about 2 1/2 months ago and it’s been a struggle. I am no contact but the thoughts running through my mind don’t stop. I am working on healing and I’m starting to feel a little bit lighter. I look forward to bettering myself and moving as far away from this as I can
Be kind and gentle to your Self. Forgive yourself thoroughly❤
I love Dr. Ramani here. She puts out a lot of good info and advice. I do gotta say one thing. Time is our most valuable asset and it's more valuable than money. This is why. Money can be replaced, returned and refunded. Our time can't though. Once we spend it, it's gone forever. We can't get that back. Narcs feel entitled to our time when we're too tired or fed up with shit to wanna give it. So don't give it and cut off their narc supply. It will make them get bored and wanna leave. Whether you want them to leave or not, your lives and your children's lives will be better off without them.
My wife just left after 4 years. All of the antagonistic behavior had me worried about my every move so I didn't upset her. I'd be pushed and poked until I reacted , then I was bashed for my actions for days. Despite all that, now that she left I'm lost. I'm so confused and scatter brain. I feel I put in so much effort. Transformed my whole life giving up everything to make the relationship work just to have it end over the stupidest thing. Leaving me feeling lost. I have no clue who I am anymore. All my time and thoughts were devoted to her. So thank you for all these videos. Watching them is the only time I don't feel alone.
I have forgiven the multiple narcissist in my life, but not because I feel that they deserve it as much as I do it for my own heart and my own emotions. I forgive them for myself. And the forgiveness does not change the fact that I’ve created healthy boundaries that I’m not willing to break. Thank you Dr.Ramani for your work💛💕
All of cluster B, are only problems because they are enabled.
what??
100% true
I so appreciate your podcasts. They have helped me tremendously in the last few years and has helped me understand my responses and the last thing effects of what I've been through. Thank you.
The embarrassing part is ask for help and allowing him back in. When he says he loves me I want to believe it but it’s not truth. Trauma bonding is real and hurts. I just want the strength to move on
Dr. Ramani, I just love when your cat makes a appearance.😻❤️
I just break up with my narcissist boyfriend for the 3rd time and it’s the last time .
I will never ever will go back to him .
Thank you Dr. Ramani for opening my eyes and mind to the truth and making me strong .
Hey Dr. Ramani. Help! Married to a narcissist with dementia.
Please talk to a medical advocate (MSW) and protect yourself. This is a double-whammy!
Yes you need to protect yourself. A narc with dementia ends up with gaining enablers through the medical field and because the narc can't be expected to change, all the changing (they'll call it "adapting") you do, you'll end up making even more sacrifices than you do now. And after all is said and done there's no guarantee of a reward for your suffering, which would happen anyway whether your narc got dementia or not.
I'm speaking from experience from dealing with two elderly narcissistic parents who were in the early stages of dementia by the end of their lives.
@@kellimeer3698 thank you. But what is that and how to contact one. Sooooo ready for some help.
Thank you for your videos. I have and continue to be helped immensely by them. I would like to say that I believe forgiveness is not saying what they did is okay, it is not letting them back into your life or your good graces. It is not protecting them from natural consequences. Forgiveness is for you to be free from holding that pain inside. It is for you to be able to heal. Thanks for listening
I think everybody has forgiveness completely misunderstood unfortunately including Dr. here. Forgiveness means you don’t seek personal vengeance against the other person. Forgiveness means they do not hold a space in your brain. Forgiveness does not mean they do not have to suffer consequences and forgiveness does not mean reconciliation. ❤ thank you so much Dr. you are helping people so much
I have said I am not grateful or 'thankful' for religious abuse, they chose evil and still haven't cleaned up their mess. None are forgiven because none have sought my forgiveness. I have also said that I will not heal without my children who are ongoing victims of this abuse.
I am so grateful for you. Thank you for your dedication to providing education and compassion to those affected by toxic and dysfunctional relationships. Infinite blessings and gratitude!
Thank you Dr. R for another wonderful video!
I can’t thank you enough for opening my eyes and educating me.
You’re helping me ya heal ❤
I’m loving that Cat! How much it obviously loves and gets dr Ramini.
I am grateful. The blessing is in the lesson. Yes to the former fear of not trying everything ( to get through to him)
Dr. RAMANI, Thankyou! You have been my guiding light in navigating and exiting an abusive relationship. 2 years ago I was not only stuck but felt like I had lost my identity. Thankyou for sharing your gifts,insights, wisdom and Love. I am forever grateful to you!!!
You’re right. It’s hard as you know and I have left and we talk now but I know different now
Thank you so much for this video!! One of the best to describe the craziness and despair narcissistic relationships can put one through. The video is also helpful for explaining to people not understanding the stakes of such relationships 🙏
You said nobody is grateful for it. I'm not. But at the same time I am. It gave me purpose in life. It's the reason I am going for my psychology degree. I am determined to make sure less people have to go through it alone. I went through it alone. It wasn't fun.
I’m lucky I’ve been 21 days NC. As crazy as it sounds he did teach me a lesson. He showed me there is something broken inside me that I need to heal so I don’t keep dating the same type of men! It’s been eye opening to say the least!!
Well written- same here…congrats on your 21 days! I believe you can do it- to find the internal healing and recognition for yourself in order to see, believe and recognize we don’t deserve to be treated in abusive ways.
G'day Dr Ramani.🐨
Thank you, Dr. Ramani.
I'm learning how to handle my emotions/feelings , heal & as you said, reprogramming myself.
You're videos are so very helpful ❤🎉
I totally understand what you just said.
I live with those 20 questions and yelling daily.
I took control by beating him and calling myself names (as I know all of them by heart basically.)
At the end I asked, "Did I forget any?"
Tried it for the 1st time this week and stole his CONTROL for the moment.
WHAT A WONDERFUL FEELING.🎉🎉😂
I can only do this as I have been getting stronger listening to Dr Ramoni's videos.
SHE HAS SAVED MY MIND AND SPIRIT.
I AM MAKING PLANS TO LEAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP BUT CANNOT UNTIL OUR 6 SENIOR DOGS GET THEIR WINGS.
FOR ME, YOU KEEP A PET UNTIL IT'S LAST BREATH.
like any good Mama, we do what we have to do for kids and pets.
PERIOD.👍😊💪🏼
@@cynthiave5221 thank you. I edited my comment because I wasn't sure if it really pertained to this particular video. ( as I write that it's another realization that I have much healing to do regarding second guessing myself )
At first it seems like Dr. Ramani is only talking about marriage, but it's crazy how relevant these videos are for me growing up in a narcissistic family. Felt like I had to hide in a corner all my life just to survive mentally since I hate conflict and they seem to love it on a daily basis.
Your first section here, details it to perfection, this was a very quick best friendship all the things that were loved and adored, and loved bombed, turned into criticism competition, and picking it apart, to wear all I did was walk on eggshells as they went through a horrible time and their life and I tried to be there. I was there the wrong way Yelling scream, so hard to take because it comes out of nowhere just when you think you can breathe whether it’s out to dinner or having coffee it can come out of nowhere, you have to choose your words carefully and yes, there was the thread of I can walk out at any time, it’s very sad